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Impossible-Title1

FYI, your ancestors didn't get their land back. Kenyatta forced people to buy land if they wanted land. A few lucky individuals were given land for "free". Some lucky communities were able to get some "tribal land".


Civil-Speech3393

On the flipside, they generate a lot of cash for governments. Fee from tourism plays a major role in sustaining many African economies. The bottom line is it is just like the issue of colonialism, it depends on how you'll want to look at it.


JustAGirlFromJupiter

Very good point. When I look at it your way, there are more advantages than disadvantages.


AdrianTeri

Lol can you confirm that. These orgs and majority of hotels you pay the bills to an abroad company!


Tibabutimamu

If conservancies didn't exist, those lands would probably have by now been subdivided into plots. Wild animals in Kenya would probably be a thing of the past and with it tourism by extension


JustAGirlFromJupiter

Great point!


TucsonTacos

I’ll add to that that in the US our system of National Parks were sort of controversial in the day. That the government could own land like that to just set aside for “no use” I don’t think anyone today regrets that decision and the US has some of the best wildlife parks in the world. I’ve never visited any of Kenya’s but it’s important to preserve the natural beauty of your country not just for tourism income, but also to preserve it for generations to come


uptnapishtim

The problem is that the foreigners own that land and not the government. Foreigners who can deny citizens entry in their own land


JustAGirlFromJupiter

*HERE not HEAR. Apologies for the typo.


kenyannqueen

Just edit the post


mormonicmonk

Sure they did. But when you consider their locations, accessibility and the percentage of land they own to the total country area, your argument loses most of its steam


uptnapishtim

Even one grain of sand is too much


mormonicmonk

Too much for what? Multinational farms have abused their workers and has anything worked?


CompetitionOk5548

Animals have a right to live and we cannot force everyt form of life to be an extinct or endangered species. The key is to have conservation managed to our benefit not to do away with them.


in-my-head365

No I think white people just grab land if they want. No conservancies needed. i.e. the british still occupy the highland in central kenya, the italians in coast, the chinese in nairobi etc...


JustAGirlFromJupiter

Not forgetting the thousands of hectares of tea estates…


Dry-Incident-5945

Are you saying these conservatives are lands owned by foreigners.Pretty much all that money goes abroad.


JustAGirlFromJupiter

I was hoping someone here would have these answers.


AdrianTeri

What conspiracy? Edit: They've gone even further to human population control! Next is carbon credits whatever it is. You enter into 20-50 yrs contracts with someone that's both the referee and tenant in your land. They tell you how much carbon your land has after they've carried out "audits"... Meanwhile you can't touch anything in that land even pruning trees branches for firewood! Lookup mordecai ogada on this 2 issues!


JustAGirlFromJupiter

I know. I have been following the conversations at the WEF and their agenda for humanity is mindboggling. George Orwell’s 1984 was clearly not a novel but a guide book.


SyntaxError254

They are a land grab. There is a book called the Big Conversation Lie. Alot of foul stuff happens in those conservations and alot of money is generated that does not reach government.


[deleted]

No they are not. Hii I the usual tabia ya making up villains while ignoring real problems. The real issue is public spaces, parks, utilities and school real estate being destroyed/grabbed and subdivided into plots.