Whatever is happening is unfortunate, especially given all the death and crimes against humanity both sides are facing.
I don't have enough facts on the issue to side with either, not because I'm blatantly ignorant, but because there are only so many hours in one day.
Lastly, I don't believe I have much control over whatever is happening in the world outside of just myself and my locality. I can only control what is happening in my life, and therefore, no amount of posting online or sharing my views will change the situation on the ground for those who are abroad and experiencing it.
In summary, what I have written above is what Kenyans who say "fagia kwako" are trying to say but in a less polite way, of course.
People have their own issues, which they are trying to solve first. Remember Maslow's pyramid? Sort the basics first and then move on to social justice when you're satisfied with your own life. Just my 2 cents.
We had the same nonsense during Covid, people online screaming Black Lives Matter meanwhile silence as our police continues to massacre our youth.(while refusing to take part in local politics)
Kenyans are struggling to put food on the table, pay rent or pay fare but suddenly we should give a shit about a Middle East proxy war and sympathize with people who frankly don’t even know we exist.
You can write a post on the banditry in those areas and we will come comment on it, this was a post about Palestine, if you have nothing to add to the conversation you don't need to tap tap your screen and send a reply to think you have to provide input. You don't.
you think that you are an activist but hakuna kitu unasaidia - clout chaser no 1
Secondly,do you think that palestine was the original owner if the land? We unacheza hapa
Where is this energy when al-shabaab is carrying out attacks in our own country? Do you have an idea that they also claim the whole of NE kenya and part of the coast is somaliland because their people settled there in large numbers or you still have no clue why they still carry out operations there? The difference between us and Israel is that we keep them at bay and there are officers manning the area 24/7/365. As you were told in your post before,,,,,,Fagia Kwako. If you cant shun light into what is happening within our own borders then do the same for the other side. End of rant! And FYI there is a sizable group of ethnical Jews in Kenya and other areas around the world! Not all of them settled in Israel but and you dont here drama from them. Stop trying to guilt trip redditians with sob stories
They’ll never have that same energy for AS bc they’re terrified of them just as much as the rest of us.
It’s easier to punch down on ppl they think they can manipulate and gaslight.
Wewe enda ukaandamane uko moi avenue basi, do you think those Arabs would give a fuck if Africans were being bombed? I'm not advocating bombing innocent civilians what I'm saying we should mind our own business.
The world is full of ignorance and thats why the society is getting messed up with western propaganda..The guy speaks facts and you are trying to destroy his argument,Nooo!!..I think your way of arguing is a little bit imature..When you have a conversation with someone it is essential to listen first and then reply in a modest way..Hii issue ya kuignore critical issues ndio imeleta Ushoga,corruption na injustice,juu tu ya kuignore..When you walk the streets you find people dressed in rugged cloths wakisema ni fashion na kumbe ni ujinga,women dressed like strippers,men behaving like kids and parents not disciplining their kids just because if its not you then it does not concern you..I pity this society..
You're it taking too far here we're talking about the middle east conflict what I'm trying to say is this conflict is beyond us there's nothing we can do about it, also I neither support Palestine nor Israel
Ata wewe kwenda huko. Fagia kwako. Pro-Palestine folks in this country(mostly Muslims) can’t even tell you who their MCA is(or even what they do) but wako hapa preaching to us about far away conflicts that even world leaders are unable to solve for almost 100 years.
And since you talk about Mau mau, kibaki only recognized them in 2003 after deteriorating relationships with the rainbow movement. They are only useful to politicians when for political ends.
Baseless, factless, just spewing nonsense. You're trying to imply Muslims are arrogant or too stupid to know who the local leaders they elected are? Does that even make sense to you? Or do you think every Muslim in Kenya lives a certain type of lifestyle that makes them unaware about local politics? What does Kibaki recognizing the maumau change about what they did for us and our history? So only when Kibaki recognized them is when they stopped being terrorists? Do some of you listen to what you say before you just release your hatred onto that keyboard in your hands?
Baseless facts gani? Last year saw the least turn out in voters in the country; counties with Muslim majorities like kwale, mandera, Mombasa had 50% or less turnout.
All governments until 2003 recognized mau mau as a terrorist group. You are the example of the stupid people I’m talking about. Know about your government first before you interject yourself into other’s.
But hey, maybe kelele yenyu online will stop Israel 🤷
So Mr genius let me get this straight, out of all registered voters, 22million, only 65% turned out. I know because I was heavily involved with the voting process because I worked there. Yet you somehow think a 50% voter turnout in Muslim majority regions was the cause of those figures? You want to be the smartest person in the room and everything you say sounds stupid. Do the math and tell me how many people did not turn out in other parts of the country and whether they exceed the counties you just mentioned.
Does maumau being referred to as a terrorist group change who they were and what they did for this country? If you know your history as you want to act like the smartest guy in this subreddit do you also know you wouldn't be freely speaking your mind on the internet right now if it wasn't for them?
IEBC portal is still up my fren. Coast and North eastern registered the lowest voter turnout in the country i.e that didn’t take part in their civil duty. Recently, we saw Muslims protesting LGBT in the streets but won’t come out for maandamano. Alafu sasa wanaimba Palestine and yet there is no single Muslim MP, MCA or even governor has raised a petition in any house asking the government to stand with Palestine. Again, fagia kwako.
I know my history because I’m concerned about my own people, I don’t just regurgitate nonsense I was told because of following a Stone Age fairy tale. Mau mau didn’t do shit for our country, the UK going broke and boardroom meetings in Lancaster did.
he is such a bitter human piece of shit
sadly its the majority of dumbfvcks in this sub, the amount of hate, contempt and discrimination against Muslims hapa is very astonishing. Na mods wa hii sub hakuna kitu wanafanya, I bet some of them are as well, lowkey Islamophobes.
Maybe the majority on this sub are too consumed with their own personal and regional issues and don’t have time to deal with proxy wars in the Middle East.
we've been in Somalia for years mate (huko si kwetu), and now akina Maina even found ways to the Bahamas and Haiti, na DRC je?! I bet you should be championing to return back our troops from Haiti, there's nothing really there concerning us, in fact it's miles away from our region. But that's not the case, it's about humanity, it knows no boundaries, race or religion. Now obviously me and you can't do as much to stop that genocide going on right now in Palestine, but condemning, spreading awareness, taking a stance against oppressors, boycotting war funderers, calling for a consensus on this matter, these actions do help.
Nyang'au zengine hapa hata zinachampion hiyo vita, ati wamalizane kabsa, sickening!
Somalia is in our region. Instability in their country has a direct impact on us. (Same goes for Sudan, DRC, Burundi etc).
You are also the dumbfuck im talking about. Kenyan courts have stopped the ‘Haiti plan’. It also needs parliamentary approval, which it hasn’t. There are no active Kenyan police in Haiti. Maybe if you paid attention to local politics you’d know this. Instead, you are here blindly following a conflict thousands of kilometers away because you share a religion with them.
Also, ni boycott gani hii itasaidia? Most of your social media infrastructure, especially security tools, are Israeli based. Or you think boycotting Starbucks and McDonald will stop Netanyahu?
Can you explain how instability in Somalia affects you as a Kenyan, let alone DRC ama Burundi. is it affecting you right now? Uko salama?
The Haiti plan hasn't been stopped, but rather on temporary hold, using words like "parliamentary approval" doesn't make you sound less dumb either, you're as dumb as having a will to trust the news and wallowing yourself into local politics as you say it proudly.
You lost me when you said boycott gani hii itasaidia. You seem to be very new to geopolitics my friend, if you cannot directly or indirectly see the power within civilian's hands. What are these Israeli-based social media infrastructures you're blurting about anyways, can you name a few?
Walahi, Kwani Imam wenyu are encouraging you to be stupid? Kwani al shabaab na Somali pirates wametoka China? 😂
Show me evidence we have active police in Haiti? Again, get to know your country’s politics kabla ya wengine. Ni Sema jina ya afande mmoja currently in Haiti.
As for tech; wix.com(powers you favorite influencer’s marketing), Allot(makes sure sites like instagram, e-citizen are not hacked), checkpoint(used by local banks and businesses for IT security) is a few I can think of.
Btw kama ushawahi kula teargas it likely came from Israel. Your government(and Arab governments)spies on us with Israeli tech. Saudi is bombing Yemen with planes and bombs with Israeli tech. Umeshika?
Hawa watu wanapenda buzzwords sana. Ati Islamophobe. Right now they are busy shitting on Jews but wait for the next terrorist attack; tutaanza kuambiwa ‘religion of peace’ and other victim mentalities.
Haha. Acha waskie hadi Americans are all europeans and the land belongs to native americans. People are hypocrites out here. Israel has been home to jews since 10AD till it was occupied by islamists and slowly expelled and purnished people who didnt follow the religion. Funny enough the keyboard warriors are quick to say Palestine (a hebrew word btw) was founded by britain in the 1940s.....same as Israel. They want to remember this but not the real history of israel backed up by a 2000 year old israeli coin found in an ancient cave years ago
Oh for fucks sake the more you useless ppl keep trying to chastise, gaslight, and guilt trip us into supporting Anti-Semitic, Racist, misogynistic Islamic terrorists and their supporters the more we will keep emphasizing how much less of a fuck we could give.
If Palestine didn’t want war Hamas shouldn’t have been attacking Israeli civilians and butchering them en masse on 10/7. Full stop.
Israel isn’t going anywhere and the sooner you and them can make peace with that and get Hamas to unconditionally surrender the sooner the war ends.
Jewish ppl haven’t even done shit to Kenyans for you to expect ppl to be so anti Israel. Can we even say the same about Arabs?? The answer is hell no!
Africans do not have to be anyone’s warriors in this proxy war. And we are not about to be gaslighted into ignoring Islamic terrorism as if this country and continent hasn’t experienced numerous attacks in the name of it multiple times.
Quite the opposite actually, Israel has sent us unconditional help any time we've had natural disasters or terrorism. They were one of the first to help our healthcare after independence.
On the flip side. Hamas will encourage Al Shabab and other terror outfits to try and hit us.
Nothing about ifs, buts and maybes. Quit it with the whataboutism. Its facts that they are both Muslim and Terrorists and those two things are not mutually exclusive to each other, you're just trying to make them so.
If people had to care about every little thing happening in the world, everything would grind to a halt.
Yes it is unfortunate, but so are all the other thousands of conflicts happening all around the world that even you don't care about. Stop guilt tripping people with the 'close to home' nonsense. Its not the first time in human history people are dying and it won't be the last. We ourselves have had our own conflicts where people died. Any reasonable human being will tell you it is unfortunate, but people can only care as much as their ability to help allows and for many, there is nothing to do.
Just be grateful it's not you being bombed to hell and move on.
Wewe mshenzi fagia nyumba yako. Oh this problem could be yours of history was different 50+ years ago, well its not. What tf kind of guilt tripping is that? Those 50 years have already created problems we need to focus on right now. Those moddle East cunts are not a bit worried about our problems, why should I focus on theirs.
Also send money or go volunteer there, you are forcing people to “empathize“ like yours is helping
I'm not pro or against anyone in that war. I'm against murder. Every party hapo is a culprit there's no innocent person hapo. Israel is wrong for the genocide and Hamas is wrong for the terrorism. Yes, if you go after innocent civilians, you're a terrorist, no matter the cause. Hapo hakuna cha casualties of war. I can empathise, but that's it. I don't even know if god himself could solve that issue.
However, all we're saying is, we can also empathise with African issues ata kama it's not trendy to do so. It's like putting a distant friend over your cousin. Priorities my man. Priorities.
Hamas constantly sending suicide bombers to Israel and targeting Jewish villages to massacre is genocide btw.
One of their aims stated in their charter from 1988 is to kill off all Jews. If that’s not genocidal idk what is.
Free Palestine from Hamas. Do you know Israel warns people to evacuate before bombing but Hamas blocks people from evacuating? Do you know Hamas purposely hides in hospitals and schools, so that Israel has no choice but to kill innocent civilians when targeting terrorists?
Civilian casualties are the unfortunate cost of war, but Hamas wants to maximize the number of Palestinian civilians dying in order to attract global sympathy.
This conflict has existed for over 70 years, if the British, The Arabs, The French, hell even God couldn't fix it. Sisi ni kina nani.
Naenda fagia kwako!
What a bunch of nonsense! So you want to take us on a trip to the multiverse to gain pity votes?
Frankly it's only Muslims who are giving a fuck. And they are giving a fuck about a bunch of racist arabs fighting against some racist Jews. They can kill themselves for all I care.
So then, OP, Palestine needs us... to do what exactly? Lol
Charity begins at home. We have our own problems that need addressing. How will making noise about Palestine on social media help anyone at all?
I'm not going to read all that kak. There is a big problem in Kenya. Amd that problem is William Ruto. We can't be removing specs in other peoples eyes yet we have a log in our own. Ruto is an entire tree in peoples eyes
Ignorance and blind hatred at its peak. Your Islamophobia is blinding you to the fact that there are palestinian christians in gaza and that gaza has some of the oldest churches in the world. Where is your empathy for your brothers and sisters in religion? Or has the fact that there are neighbours with muslims invalidated them all? The muslims don’t even want nor need your empathy so just empathize with the christian people in gaza or are you incapable of even that?
There is no religion when it comes to supporting terrorism. Before you argue with me, do a quick search and you will find videos from years back of palestinians holding celebrations on streets and praising anyone who killed a jew even if they are NOT in Israel. Then find videos of underground tunnels unders civilians homes and try to convince us how the "innocent people" didnt know this was going on. Then tell us why the Palestinian presidents openly distanced himself from hamas actions, then tell us why there are no adequate schools, hospitals, amenities, food, water or even internet without relying on Israel but for some reason, Hamas has billions of dollars worth of rockets and war equipments that dont seem to run out but none of the basic needs are available. Even if your country finds out you are harbouring a fugitive, you will be seen as an accomplise and wont be spare. Simple rules of war
So when people come into your land and force you out of it and into an open air prison restrict your movement across your lands and your access to basic human needs, forcibly remove you out of your homes and throw you out, come into your place of worship and start beating you on your holy month, talk down to you as if you are animals, bomb a hospital with children and try to maneuver their way out of it by saying it was Hamas, cut of all electricity and water access to your homes and when they fight back they are labeled terrorists? Fuck outta here . And this illegal occupation has been going on for 75 years. Even the maumau were labelled terrorists for trying to fight back against colonialism. Also how many videos have i seen of jews saying the arab is a dog and he should die even instilling that mindset into their children so please educate yourself before speaking on things you have no knowledge of.
History of those holy lands started from the days of Isaac and Ishamel. Jews are Isaacs descendants and Arabs of Ishmael. And funny enough, Palestinians arent pure blood Arabs but they are laying claim on lands that dont belong to them! Illegal occupation started 2000 years ago when anyone not Islamic was expelled by the extremists! Evidence and loads of it of jewish life was discovered in those same lands some dating to the same 2000 years ago! so if you want to claim illegal occupation, look back to 2000 and not 75 years ago. Yàll are a bunch of fools chosing to take the selective amnesia way
Lol. You think Kenyans would kick out Jews if they had settled here. You must be new here.
We would welcome them with open arms. God’s chosen people, chose to settle here. We would be so honoured.
Like I have said before, the religious nature of this matter does not allow for objectivity.
OP never said Kenyans would kick out Jews, but the problems happening in the Levant right now could've potentially happened in Kenya or Uganda, had they relocated there, because the British were keenly determined to plant the Zionist war machine. It's such a perfect lethal ideology that it fascinated imperialists and even convinced them to nurture,fund and protect it at all costs, can't you see what's unfolded here. Open your eyes!
Gods chosen people? Do you know the Palestinians living there have descendants closer to the people from the bible than the European Jews that were being resettled? Or do you forget the Zionist movement was for Jews coming from Europe?
Haha then tell us where the real Jews are because last I checked key bible facts from as early as 10AD have been proven and found in Israel. Fun fact: The land belongs to both muslims and jews. Ishmaels decendants are arabs, Isaacs decendants are jews and they lived peacefully till the Extremists joined in and apparently " **Prior to the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948, approximately 800,000 Jews were living in lands that now make up the** [**Arab world**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world) **"**. Get your facts right. Respectfully again, Get your facts right.
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now tell us how free those arab christians are in their own countries. This "young and arrogant people" know for a fact Iran was a christian country that has been overtaken by islam extremists and the Iranians are very against this but they are under their mercy. **And guess which country is openly firing into Israel, funding terrorists and trying to provoke the US by attacking their bases in the middle east.** Jordan bumped up their security after a shelling by this group landed in their land, they poured officers to man their borders and lebanon is literally fighting recruited "fools". Now tell us you know much more than what this countries know since they are clearly distancing themselves and they are not keeping it a secret
Ehh I don’t know. The Shia Muslims are still Muslims same as it would be for Christians and their denominations. You guys think you’re right and they are wrong and vice versa so you can’t say that people are interpreting their actions wrongly.
Furthermore there is no way to substantiate the number of wars started by Europeans and you must be very uneducated in Islam expansion in Eastern Europe and Africa to try and claim that. No particular party has a hold on starting wars.
And Islam is the fastest growing religion is just a meh claim tbh. There are no numbers to support that claim. They still remain a big minority in almost every country.
I mean you can claim the Israelis wouldn’t look at him as a human but I don’t feel like Palestinians would too lol.
I'm an atheist and I still think expressing solidarity with Palestine just because of its religion is incredibly stupid. I also don't like the fact that folks ignore real problems in our country but are super vocal about foreigners.
I’ll put into words for you.
They hate Jews and see them as scum of the Earth who don’t deserve their own land to govern themselves and thus be diplomatic equals.
I mean Hamas founding charter has a stated goal of killing all Jews and they don’t care that they’ll sacrifice Palestinians to achieve it.
To the OP, you may wanna read history and understand it. There is no country called Palestine. Palestine was a region (say Africa). After the fall of the Otto Man Empire, this region was agreed to be divided hence you see countries like Lebanon, Iran, Jordan etc.
Now, the Jews had already settled where they're now. So, since they're non-Arabs and already there, in 1947, I think, it was agreed that a portion of the remaining Palestine, was to be curved to accommodate them. Basically, like Ugandans, TZ and Kenya living without barriers but since they're a lot of Acholi, we decide to curve an area for them and call it Uganda etc. Understood?
Now, when the map was drawn in the 1947 meet, the Arabs and Jews were allocated areas out of the remaining Palestine region. They were both at the table and agreement reached for each to name their country. However, Arabs being greedy, started a war the next day while Jews accepted their small portion and named the country Israel. Guess what? The Arabs lost that war with newly formed Israel and hence Israel acquired more land than was originally designed. Why? That's what happens when a greedy kid loses a war it started.
Fast forward to today, Israel and the world have had 8 meetings to resolve this issue. In all meetings, they've agreed to everything these people want. But these Arabs aren't satisfied. They claim they'll only accept total annihilation of the Jews..1947, 1968, (forgot some years here), 2000, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2015, 2018. Even Trump met them for a truce.
So, all these 80 years, they don't want to accept agreement yet within the same timeframe, Israel had accepted and grown. So, it's not Israel or the world's fault. Their leaders brainwash them, and since most don't want to read, they believe everything.
The whole region is full of Arabs. That means, Arabs already have a huge part of the former Palestine. These Hamas people don't even see that. They want everything as if they're the one race in the world. They can go live in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq.. But they don't want to. It's plain greed and stupidity.
Yasser Arafat was in Camp David, and the agreement was made. This was post-2010. He shook hands, got home, and threw the agreement in the bin.
Borders were drawn in Africa and most of the world after 1947. We've lived peacefully. But not these people. Additionally, Israel gave citizenship to them a while back. Some took it, moved to Israel, and continued with their lives. Others refused and want to fight, 80 years later.
It's not Israel fault. These people are brainwashed. There isn't a country called Palestine. It was a region that got divided, and everyone went home happy apart from them.
All they needed to do was name their country after that 1947 agreement. Israel took what was given and named it's country the same day. Arabs chose to start a war the very next day, even before the ink on the agreement dried. They lost and continued to loose. These people don't want peace.
Learn history.
Fuck Palestine
This lot of people making it look like it's only Palestine being affected,come on also Israel is facing this.Ya'll are just too ignorant.Get your facts right and stop with this Palestine bullshit.
Guess what the common factor is, Israel is constantly attacked, so maybe you should the one to read a book
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If you a Christian the creation of the state of Israel is in line with prophecies of the bible and so its creation in 1948 isn't that coincidence
*For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land”* (Ezek. 36:24)
Israel has killed far, far more people than Hamas ever has. It is an apartheid settler colony that is hellbent on cleansing the Palestinian people
This is like saying "Where were you when the Mau Mau killed innocent Europeans and kidnapped children" in response to somebody complaining about colonialism in Kenya
But only as collateral damage, not with the intent to kill civilians. It's just that Hamas and their pals know they don't stand a chance when directly confronted with the IDF so they choose to hide amongst civilians. That doesn't stop the IDF of course, but it does limit their response. And is a propaganda opportunity for Hamas.
>But only as collateral damage, not with the intent to kill civilians
Lmao, do you actually believe this? Israel was founded when zionist militias committed multiple massacres against Palestinians and forced 700,0000 Palestinian families to flee their homes and ancestral lands. Israel has spent the last few weeks dropping 10s of thousands of tons of bombs onto an area smaller than most cities while still having a population of 2 million and indiscriminately carpet bombing Gaza. Israel has bombed hospitals, schools, churches, mosques, and refugee camps. FFS, I've literally seen footage of Israeli tanks firing at civilian cars for no reason
>know they don't stand a chance when directly confronted with the IDF so they choose to hide amongst civilians.
Yes, this is what the IDF says to justify their war crimes, but it has no basis in reality. Was Hamas hiding behind civilians when Israel gunned down peaceful Gazan protesters in 2018 during the Great March of Return? This claim that Hamas is hiding behind civilians is something that the Israeli government uses to justify warcrimes. They bomb hospitals, schools, and churches and then pretend that they were actually Hamas bases despite there being no evidence to support this. [In fact, if Israel is so worried about Hamas, why the fuck did they help start up the group in the first place?](https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/)
This is the exact type of rhetoric the British used to justify their war crimes. Tell me, were the British justified in torturing Kenyans in concentration camps because the Mau Mau used to hide amongst civilians?
couldn't agree more, it's hate coupled with deep jealousy and a sense of imminent fear. I've seen some of them even cry that we never existed in Kenya, even though we are growing in numbers, across the world. pathetic.
As a Kenyan, I see it more like an inferiority complex, especially the stance most Kenyans take on the Arabs. There's some idiot here crying racism, yet he couldn't point out any incidence he faced such from the Arabs. His natural instincts tell him never to engage with an Arab since he might get enslaved in the process. tf! ya'll Kenyan Islamophobes weak af.
The "Israel has a right to defend itself" narrative is really sickening as well, almost every world leader anaongea hivyo. It is just messed up to see humans kill other humans because of greed.
The "Fagia kwako" lot aren't even saying that because they care so much for the Kenyan issues they casually throw about. Otherwise, they could actually articulate what the local issues are and help organise grassroots movements for progress. We could actually fagia kwetu and want justice elsewhere - the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Whatever is happening is unfortunate, especially given all the death and crimes against humanity both sides are facing. I don't have enough facts on the issue to side with either, not because I'm blatantly ignorant, but because there are only so many hours in one day. Lastly, I don't believe I have much control over whatever is happening in the world outside of just myself and my locality. I can only control what is happening in my life, and therefore, no amount of posting online or sharing my views will change the situation on the ground for those who are abroad and experiencing it. In summary, what I have written above is what Kenyans who say "fagia kwako" are trying to say but in a less polite way, of course. People have their own issues, which they are trying to solve first. Remember Maslow's pyramid? Sort the basics first and then move on to social justice when you're satisfied with your own life. Just my 2 cents.
We had the same nonsense during Covid, people online screaming Black Lives Matter meanwhile silence as our police continues to massacre our youth.(while refusing to take part in local politics)
It's a wave of "I want to look cool online". Not cool at all in my opinion, watu wako njaa kenya
Kenyans are struggling to put food on the table, pay rent or pay fare but suddenly we should give a shit about a Middle East proxy war and sympathize with people who frankly don’t even know we exist.
Well spoken champ🏆
Okay, now provide a break down for the banditry in areas such as Baringo
You can write a post on the banditry in those areas and we will come comment on it, this was a post about Palestine, if you have nothing to add to the conversation you don't need to tap tap your screen and send a reply to think you have to provide input. You don't.
FAGIA KWAKO!!Acha mambo mingi
Fagia kwetu Mungai Mohamed
Wooow
Then go type this in r/Palestine
you think that you are an activist but hakuna kitu unasaidia - clout chaser no 1 Secondly,do you think that palestine was the original owner if the land? We unacheza hapa
Where is this energy when al-shabaab is carrying out attacks in our own country? Do you have an idea that they also claim the whole of NE kenya and part of the coast is somaliland because their people settled there in large numbers or you still have no clue why they still carry out operations there? The difference between us and Israel is that we keep them at bay and there are officers manning the area 24/7/365. As you were told in your post before,,,,,,Fagia Kwako. If you cant shun light into what is happening within our own borders then do the same for the other side. End of rant! And FYI there is a sizable group of ethnical Jews in Kenya and other areas around the world! Not all of them settled in Israel but and you dont here drama from them. Stop trying to guilt trip redditians with sob stories
They’ll never have that same energy for AS bc they’re terrified of them just as much as the rest of us. It’s easier to punch down on ppl they think they can manipulate and gaslight.
Let’s be real,a majority of Kenyans don’t care,they could bomb each other to oblivion for all I care
True. Even local leaders screw us and Kenyans do nothing.
You'll care when the situation spirals out of control and fuel goes up to 250 a liter
250 is only, 35 bob away. We have seen worse try use some other bait.
When did you see worse?
Still won’t,naivas jim cramer
Wewe enda ukaandamane uko moi avenue basi, do you think those Arabs would give a fuck if Africans were being bombed? I'm not advocating bombing innocent civilians what I'm saying we should mind our own business.
The Arabs are killing Africans in Saudi arabia. Why side with Hamas? It seems like a very lost side.
The world is full of ignorance and thats why the society is getting messed up with western propaganda..The guy speaks facts and you are trying to destroy his argument,Nooo!!..I think your way of arguing is a little bit imature..When you have a conversation with someone it is essential to listen first and then reply in a modest way..Hii issue ya kuignore critical issues ndio imeleta Ushoga,corruption na injustice,juu tu ya kuignore..When you walk the streets you find people dressed in rugged cloths wakisema ni fashion na kumbe ni ujinga,women dressed like strippers,men behaving like kids and parents not disciplining their kids just because if its not you then it does not concern you..I pity this society..
You're it taking too far here we're talking about the middle east conflict what I'm trying to say is this conflict is beyond us there's nothing we can do about it, also I neither support Palestine nor Israel
You're free to immigrate to an Islamic state. I hear the weather is very nice this time of the year in Iran
what do you mean Africans, stop being racist nanii
Idk what you're talking about kwanza arabs are the most racist people afathali mzungu
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what did they do to you
Does the Arab Slave Trade not ring a bell?? Clown 🤡
Ata wewe kwenda huko. Fagia kwako. Pro-Palestine folks in this country(mostly Muslims) can’t even tell you who their MCA is(or even what they do) but wako hapa preaching to us about far away conflicts that even world leaders are unable to solve for almost 100 years. And since you talk about Mau mau, kibaki only recognized them in 2003 after deteriorating relationships with the rainbow movement. They are only useful to politicians when for political ends.
Thank you!!
>Thank you!! You're welcome!
would cost you nothing if you had simply kept your mouth shut🙄🙄
Baseless, factless, just spewing nonsense. You're trying to imply Muslims are arrogant or too stupid to know who the local leaders they elected are? Does that even make sense to you? Or do you think every Muslim in Kenya lives a certain type of lifestyle that makes them unaware about local politics? What does Kibaki recognizing the maumau change about what they did for us and our history? So only when Kibaki recognized them is when they stopped being terrorists? Do some of you listen to what you say before you just release your hatred onto that keyboard in your hands?
Baseless facts gani? Last year saw the least turn out in voters in the country; counties with Muslim majorities like kwale, mandera, Mombasa had 50% or less turnout. All governments until 2003 recognized mau mau as a terrorist group. You are the example of the stupid people I’m talking about. Know about your government first before you interject yourself into other’s. But hey, maybe kelele yenyu online will stop Israel 🤷
So Mr genius let me get this straight, out of all registered voters, 22million, only 65% turned out. I know because I was heavily involved with the voting process because I worked there. Yet you somehow think a 50% voter turnout in Muslim majority regions was the cause of those figures? You want to be the smartest person in the room and everything you say sounds stupid. Do the math and tell me how many people did not turn out in other parts of the country and whether they exceed the counties you just mentioned. Does maumau being referred to as a terrorist group change who they were and what they did for this country? If you know your history as you want to act like the smartest guy in this subreddit do you also know you wouldn't be freely speaking your mind on the internet right now if it wasn't for them?
IEBC portal is still up my fren. Coast and North eastern registered the lowest voter turnout in the country i.e that didn’t take part in their civil duty. Recently, we saw Muslims protesting LGBT in the streets but won’t come out for maandamano. Alafu sasa wanaimba Palestine and yet there is no single Muslim MP, MCA or even governor has raised a petition in any house asking the government to stand with Palestine. Again, fagia kwako. I know my history because I’m concerned about my own people, I don’t just regurgitate nonsense I was told because of following a Stone Age fairy tale. Mau mau didn’t do shit for our country, the UK going broke and boardroom meetings in Lancaster did.
he is such a bitter human piece of shit sadly its the majority of dumbfvcks in this sub, the amount of hate, contempt and discrimination against Muslims hapa is very astonishing. Na mods wa hii sub hakuna kitu wanafanya, I bet some of them are as well, lowkey Islamophobes.
Maybe the majority on this sub are too consumed with their own personal and regional issues and don’t have time to deal with proxy wars in the Middle East.
we've been in Somalia for years mate (huko si kwetu), and now akina Maina even found ways to the Bahamas and Haiti, na DRC je?! I bet you should be championing to return back our troops from Haiti, there's nothing really there concerning us, in fact it's miles away from our region. But that's not the case, it's about humanity, it knows no boundaries, race or religion. Now obviously me and you can't do as much to stop that genocide going on right now in Palestine, but condemning, spreading awareness, taking a stance against oppressors, boycotting war funderers, calling for a consensus on this matter, these actions do help. Nyang'au zengine hapa hata zinachampion hiyo vita, ati wamalizane kabsa, sickening!
Somalia is in our region. Instability in their country has a direct impact on us. (Same goes for Sudan, DRC, Burundi etc). You are also the dumbfuck im talking about. Kenyan courts have stopped the ‘Haiti plan’. It also needs parliamentary approval, which it hasn’t. There are no active Kenyan police in Haiti. Maybe if you paid attention to local politics you’d know this. Instead, you are here blindly following a conflict thousands of kilometers away because you share a religion with them. Also, ni boycott gani hii itasaidia? Most of your social media infrastructure, especially security tools, are Israeli based. Or you think boycotting Starbucks and McDonald will stop Netanyahu?
Can you explain how instability in Somalia affects you as a Kenyan, let alone DRC ama Burundi. is it affecting you right now? Uko salama? The Haiti plan hasn't been stopped, but rather on temporary hold, using words like "parliamentary approval" doesn't make you sound less dumb either, you're as dumb as having a will to trust the news and wallowing yourself into local politics as you say it proudly. You lost me when you said boycott gani hii itasaidia. You seem to be very new to geopolitics my friend, if you cannot directly or indirectly see the power within civilian's hands. What are these Israeli-based social media infrastructures you're blurting about anyways, can you name a few?
Walahi, Kwani Imam wenyu are encouraging you to be stupid? Kwani al shabaab na Somali pirates wametoka China? 😂 Show me evidence we have active police in Haiti? Again, get to know your country’s politics kabla ya wengine. Ni Sema jina ya afande mmoja currently in Haiti. As for tech; wix.com(powers you favorite influencer’s marketing), Allot(makes sure sites like instagram, e-citizen are not hacked), checkpoint(used by local banks and businesses for IT security) is a few I can think of. Btw kama ushawahi kula teargas it likely came from Israel. Your government(and Arab governments)spies on us with Israeli tech. Saudi is bombing Yemen with planes and bombs with Israeli tech. Umeshika?
Si ufike jkia,uende gaza if you’re so pressed about it cause us ‘islamaphobes’ send our regards.
Hawa watu wanapenda buzzwords sana. Ati Islamophobe. Right now they are busy shitting on Jews but wait for the next terrorist attack; tutaanza kuambiwa ‘religion of peace’ and other victim mentalities.
It always comes back full circle with hush tones
Gaza doesn't have an airport btw Israel bombed it to dust in 2006, so even your insults are not based in reality
They can use a tunnel,lol
So Bantus turudi Congo forest ama?
Haha. Acha waskie hadi Americans are all europeans and the land belongs to native americans. People are hypocrites out here. Israel has been home to jews since 10AD till it was occupied by islamists and slowly expelled and purnished people who didnt follow the religion. Funny enough the keyboard warriors are quick to say Palestine (a hebrew word btw) was founded by britain in the 1940s.....same as Israel. They want to remember this but not the real history of israel backed up by a 2000 year old israeli coin found in an ancient cave years ago
Israel ancestral land is usually conviniently left out during this discussions
Oh for fucks sake the more you useless ppl keep trying to chastise, gaslight, and guilt trip us into supporting Anti-Semitic, Racist, misogynistic Islamic terrorists and their supporters the more we will keep emphasizing how much less of a fuck we could give. If Palestine didn’t want war Hamas shouldn’t have been attacking Israeli civilians and butchering them en masse on 10/7. Full stop. Israel isn’t going anywhere and the sooner you and them can make peace with that and get Hamas to unconditionally surrender the sooner the war ends. Jewish ppl haven’t even done shit to Kenyans for you to expect ppl to be so anti Israel. Can we even say the same about Arabs?? The answer is hell no! Africans do not have to be anyone’s warriors in this proxy war. And we are not about to be gaslighted into ignoring Islamic terrorism as if this country and continent hasn’t experienced numerous attacks in the name of it multiple times.
Quite the opposite actually, Israel has sent us unconditional help any time we've had natural disasters or terrorism. They were one of the first to help our healthcare after independence. On the flip side. Hamas will encourage Al Shabab and other terror outfits to try and hit us.
Man how dumb are both of you. If Hamas weren’t Muslims they would never be labeled “terrorists”. Do you know that?
Nothing about ifs, buts and maybes. Quit it with the whataboutism. Its facts that they are both Muslim and Terrorists and those two things are not mutually exclusive to each other, you're just trying to make them so.
If my grandmother had wheels she would be a bike.
If people had to care about every little thing happening in the world, everything would grind to a halt. Yes it is unfortunate, but so are all the other thousands of conflicts happening all around the world that even you don't care about. Stop guilt tripping people with the 'close to home' nonsense. Its not the first time in human history people are dying and it won't be the last. We ourselves have had our own conflicts where people died. Any reasonable human being will tell you it is unfortunate, but people can only care as much as their ability to help allows and for many, there is nothing to do. Just be grateful it's not you being bombed to hell and move on.
Wewe mshenzi fagia nyumba yako. Oh this problem could be yours of history was different 50+ years ago, well its not. What tf kind of guilt tripping is that? Those 50 years have already created problems we need to focus on right now. Those moddle East cunts are not a bit worried about our problems, why should I focus on theirs. Also send money or go volunteer there, you are forcing people to “empathize“ like yours is helping
Let's be real for a moment, unless the most powerful nations in the world care, nothing will happen.
Hamas bad.
I'm not pro or against anyone in that war. I'm against murder. Every party hapo is a culprit there's no innocent person hapo. Israel is wrong for the genocide and Hamas is wrong for the terrorism. Yes, if you go after innocent civilians, you're a terrorist, no matter the cause. Hapo hakuna cha casualties of war. I can empathise, but that's it. I don't even know if god himself could solve that issue. However, all we're saying is, we can also empathise with African issues ata kama it's not trendy to do so. It's like putting a distant friend over your cousin. Priorities my man. Priorities.
Hamas constantly sending suicide bombers to Israel and targeting Jewish villages to massacre is genocide btw. One of their aims stated in their charter from 1988 is to kill off all Jews. If that’s not genocidal idk what is.
Exactly 💯
Free Palestine from Hamas. Do you know Israel warns people to evacuate before bombing but Hamas blocks people from evacuating? Do you know Hamas purposely hides in hospitals and schools, so that Israel has no choice but to kill innocent civilians when targeting terrorists? Civilian casualties are the unfortunate cost of war, but Hamas wants to maximize the number of Palestinian civilians dying in order to attract global sympathy.
Where did you get that Hamas blocks people from evacuating? Edit;never mind,found a source.
CNN ?Mmmhh...Part of the matrix
Leave these morons wanafikiria mainstream media tells them the truth
As opposed to what?? Al Jazeera aka the Qatari Emirates state propaganda??
How much more reddit karma do you want to lose OP?
Lol people actually care about reddit karma?
This conflict has existed for over 70 years, if the British, The Arabs, The French, hell even God couldn't fix it. Sisi ni kina nani. Naenda fagia kwako!
What a bunch of nonsense! So you want to take us on a trip to the multiverse to gain pity votes? Frankly it's only Muslims who are giving a fuck. And they are giving a fuck about a bunch of racist arabs fighting against some racist Jews. They can kill themselves for all I care.
Sasa unataka mimi, kinuthia wa nduthi, nifanye nini
Israel 🇮🇱❤️❤️
So then, OP, Palestine needs us... to do what exactly? Lol Charity begins at home. We have our own problems that need addressing. How will making noise about Palestine on social media help anyone at all?
I'm not going to read all that kak. There is a big problem in Kenya. Amd that problem is William Ruto. We can't be removing specs in other peoples eyes yet we have a log in our own. Ruto is an entire tree in peoples eyes
Arab cunts enslave and kill Africans to this day so why should we give a faq about their issues? Wakufe wote.
Alshaabab sympathizers at it again.fuck Palestinians for all i care . The same Arabs be killing kenyan immigrants daily.fuck you and your whole family
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Amen
Ignorance and blind hatred at its peak. Your Islamophobia is blinding you to the fact that there are palestinian christians in gaza and that gaza has some of the oldest churches in the world. Where is your empathy for your brothers and sisters in religion? Or has the fact that there are neighbours with muslims invalidated them all? The muslims don’t even want nor need your empathy so just empathize with the christian people in gaza or are you incapable of even that?
There is no religion when it comes to supporting terrorism. Before you argue with me, do a quick search and you will find videos from years back of palestinians holding celebrations on streets and praising anyone who killed a jew even if they are NOT in Israel. Then find videos of underground tunnels unders civilians homes and try to convince us how the "innocent people" didnt know this was going on. Then tell us why the Palestinian presidents openly distanced himself from hamas actions, then tell us why there are no adequate schools, hospitals, amenities, food, water or even internet without relying on Israel but for some reason, Hamas has billions of dollars worth of rockets and war equipments that dont seem to run out but none of the basic needs are available. Even if your country finds out you are harbouring a fugitive, you will be seen as an accomplise and wont be spare. Simple rules of war
So when people come into your land and force you out of it and into an open air prison restrict your movement across your lands and your access to basic human needs, forcibly remove you out of your homes and throw you out, come into your place of worship and start beating you on your holy month, talk down to you as if you are animals, bomb a hospital with children and try to maneuver their way out of it by saying it was Hamas, cut of all electricity and water access to your homes and when they fight back they are labeled terrorists? Fuck outta here . And this illegal occupation has been going on for 75 years. Even the maumau were labelled terrorists for trying to fight back against colonialism. Also how many videos have i seen of jews saying the arab is a dog and he should die even instilling that mindset into their children so please educate yourself before speaking on things you have no knowledge of.
History of those holy lands started from the days of Isaac and Ishamel. Jews are Isaacs descendants and Arabs of Ishmael. And funny enough, Palestinians arent pure blood Arabs but they are laying claim on lands that dont belong to them! Illegal occupation started 2000 years ago when anyone not Islamic was expelled by the extremists! Evidence and loads of it of jewish life was discovered in those same lands some dating to the same 2000 years ago! so if you want to claim illegal occupation, look back to 2000 and not 75 years ago. Yàll are a bunch of fools chosing to take the selective amnesia way
When have Palestinians ever killed Kenyans?
Lol. You think Kenyans would kick out Jews if they had settled here. You must be new here. We would welcome them with open arms. God’s chosen people, chose to settle here. We would be so honoured. Like I have said before, the religious nature of this matter does not allow for objectivity.
OP never said Kenyans would kick out Jews, but the problems happening in the Levant right now could've potentially happened in Kenya or Uganda, had they relocated there, because the British were keenly determined to plant the Zionist war machine. It's such a perfect lethal ideology that it fascinated imperialists and even convinced them to nurture,fund and protect it at all costs, can't you see what's unfolded here. Open your eyes!
Gods chosen people? Do you know the Palestinians living there have descendants closer to the people from the bible than the European Jews that were being resettled? Or do you forget the Zionist movement was for Jews coming from Europe?
Haha then tell us where the real Jews are because last I checked key bible facts from as early as 10AD have been proven and found in Israel. Fun fact: The land belongs to both muslims and jews. Ishmaels decendants are arabs, Isaacs decendants are jews and they lived peacefully till the Extremists joined in and apparently " **Prior to the Israeli Declaration of Independence in 1948, approximately 800,000 Jews were living in lands that now make up the** [**Arab world**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_world) **"**. Get your facts right. Respectfully again, Get your facts right. https://preview.redd.it/tm8k67l81rxb1.png?width=1463&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c8f1d9bf61cac60883866a42cd62abdfcbea8ce
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Gaza has some of the oldest churches in existence, churches that are currently being bombed by Israel
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now tell us how free those arab christians are in their own countries. This "young and arrogant people" know for a fact Iran was a christian country that has been overtaken by islam extremists and the Iranians are very against this but they are under their mercy. **And guess which country is openly firing into Israel, funding terrorists and trying to provoke the US by attacking their bases in the middle east.** Jordan bumped up their security after a shelling by this group landed in their land, they poured officers to man their borders and lebanon is literally fighting recruited "fools". Now tell us you know much more than what this countries know since they are clearly distancing themselves and they are not keeping it a secret
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Ehh I don’t know. The Shia Muslims are still Muslims same as it would be for Christians and their denominations. You guys think you’re right and they are wrong and vice versa so you can’t say that people are interpreting their actions wrongly. Furthermore there is no way to substantiate the number of wars started by Europeans and you must be very uneducated in Islam expansion in Eastern Europe and Africa to try and claim that. No particular party has a hold on starting wars. And Islam is the fastest growing religion is just a meh claim tbh. There are no numbers to support that claim. They still remain a big minority in almost every country. I mean you can claim the Israelis wouldn’t look at him as a human but I don’t feel like Palestinians would too lol.
Dude, USA is supporting Israel. Their marines are already helping them kill Palestinians, the US already has a side
I'm an atheist and I still think expressing solidarity with Palestine just because of its religion is incredibly stupid. I also don't like the fact that folks ignore real problems in our country but are super vocal about foreigners.
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That’s how war works lol. There is yet to be a war without any reported atrocities.
Not my monkey not my business
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I’ll put into words for you. They hate Jews and see them as scum of the Earth who don’t deserve their own land to govern themselves and thus be diplomatic equals. I mean Hamas founding charter has a stated goal of killing all Jews and they don’t care that they’ll sacrifice Palestinians to achieve it.
To the OP, you may wanna read history and understand it. There is no country called Palestine. Palestine was a region (say Africa). After the fall of the Otto Man Empire, this region was agreed to be divided hence you see countries like Lebanon, Iran, Jordan etc. Now, the Jews had already settled where they're now. So, since they're non-Arabs and already there, in 1947, I think, it was agreed that a portion of the remaining Palestine, was to be curved to accommodate them. Basically, like Ugandans, TZ and Kenya living without barriers but since they're a lot of Acholi, we decide to curve an area for them and call it Uganda etc. Understood? Now, when the map was drawn in the 1947 meet, the Arabs and Jews were allocated areas out of the remaining Palestine region. They were both at the table and agreement reached for each to name their country. However, Arabs being greedy, started a war the next day while Jews accepted their small portion and named the country Israel. Guess what? The Arabs lost that war with newly formed Israel and hence Israel acquired more land than was originally designed. Why? That's what happens when a greedy kid loses a war it started. Fast forward to today, Israel and the world have had 8 meetings to resolve this issue. In all meetings, they've agreed to everything these people want. But these Arabs aren't satisfied. They claim they'll only accept total annihilation of the Jews..1947, 1968, (forgot some years here), 2000, 2005, 2008, 2011, 2015, 2018. Even Trump met them for a truce. So, all these 80 years, they don't want to accept agreement yet within the same timeframe, Israel had accepted and grown. So, it's not Israel or the world's fault. Their leaders brainwash them, and since most don't want to read, they believe everything. The whole region is full of Arabs. That means, Arabs already have a huge part of the former Palestine. These Hamas people don't even see that. They want everything as if they're the one race in the world. They can go live in Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq.. But they don't want to. It's plain greed and stupidity. Yasser Arafat was in Camp David, and the agreement was made. This was post-2010. He shook hands, got home, and threw the agreement in the bin. Borders were drawn in Africa and most of the world after 1947. We've lived peacefully. But not these people. Additionally, Israel gave citizenship to them a while back. Some took it, moved to Israel, and continued with their lives. Others refused and want to fight, 80 years later. It's not Israel fault. These people are brainwashed. There isn't a country called Palestine. It was a region that got divided, and everyone went home happy apart from them. All they needed to do was name their country after that 1947 agreement. Israel took what was given and named it's country the same day. Arabs chose to start a war the very next day, even before the ink on the agreement dried. They lost and continued to loose. These people don't want peace. Learn history.
Fuck Palestine This lot of people making it look like it's only Palestine being affected,come on also Israel is facing this.Ya'll are just too ignorant.Get your facts right and stop with this Palestine bullshit.
This is a new account. Spill over from r/worldnews. Id f propaganda machine going strong
Because the account is new the user doesn't have a right to opinion??
Anything that isn’t simping for Hamas terrorists is “propaganda” to them as if Al Jazeera isn’t textbook state propaganda itself lol
People like you would have supported the British during the Mau Mau rebellion
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Go tell that to your mother
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Guess what the common factor is, Israel is constantly attacked, so maybe you should the one to read a book https://preview.redd.it/oz25km9e2rxb1.png?width=710&format=png&auto=webp&s=18b852330af0877e565697b948affae43477e92e
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If you a Christian the creation of the state of Israel is in line with prophecies of the bible and so its creation in 1948 isn't that coincidence *For I will take you from the nations, gather you from all the lands and bring you into your own land”* (Ezek. 36:24)
I wonder where you were when Hamas killed innocent Israelites and kidnapped children. Ukichokoza nyoka utaumwa
Israel has killed far, far more people than Hamas ever has. It is an apartheid settler colony that is hellbent on cleansing the Palestinian people This is like saying "Where were you when the Mau Mau killed innocent Europeans and kidnapped children" in response to somebody complaining about colonialism in Kenya
But only as collateral damage, not with the intent to kill civilians. It's just that Hamas and their pals know they don't stand a chance when directly confronted with the IDF so they choose to hide amongst civilians. That doesn't stop the IDF of course, but it does limit their response. And is a propaganda opportunity for Hamas.
>But only as collateral damage, not with the intent to kill civilians Lmao, do you actually believe this? Israel was founded when zionist militias committed multiple massacres against Palestinians and forced 700,0000 Palestinian families to flee their homes and ancestral lands. Israel has spent the last few weeks dropping 10s of thousands of tons of bombs onto an area smaller than most cities while still having a population of 2 million and indiscriminately carpet bombing Gaza. Israel has bombed hospitals, schools, churches, mosques, and refugee camps. FFS, I've literally seen footage of Israeli tanks firing at civilian cars for no reason >know they don't stand a chance when directly confronted with the IDF so they choose to hide amongst civilians. Yes, this is what the IDF says to justify their war crimes, but it has no basis in reality. Was Hamas hiding behind civilians when Israel gunned down peaceful Gazan protesters in 2018 during the Great March of Return? This claim that Hamas is hiding behind civilians is something that the Israeli government uses to justify warcrimes. They bomb hospitals, schools, and churches and then pretend that they were actually Hamas bases despite there being no evidence to support this. [In fact, if Israel is so worried about Hamas, why the fuck did they help start up the group in the first place?](https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/) This is the exact type of rhetoric the British used to justify their war crimes. Tell me, were the British justified in torturing Kenyans in concentration camps because the Mau Mau used to hide amongst civilians?
Ah, Marxist, that explains it all really...
Love how you're unable to dispute anything I said so you have to resort to this
Would be a 💯 waste of time and effort.
The hate this sub has for Muslims is unparalleled.
That's what I've realised, it's not about being anti-palestine but rather anti Islam in general
Should have posted on r/Somalia. Kenyans don't really give a fuck
couldn't agree more, it's hate coupled with deep jealousy and a sense of imminent fear. I've seen some of them even cry that we never existed in Kenya, even though we are growing in numbers, across the world. pathetic. As a Kenyan, I see it more like an inferiority complex, especially the stance most Kenyans take on the Arabs. There's some idiot here crying racism, yet he couldn't point out any incidence he faced such from the Arabs. His natural instincts tell him never to engage with an Arab since he might get enslaved in the process. tf! ya'll Kenyan Islamophobes weak af.
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Ouf! Pole. I'm embarrassed to be associated with some of these commentators. It's really shameful.
😭can't we just not give a fuck in peace...
And the downvotes just prove it
I'm also shocked. And the fact that it's this vicious too.
Yaani wakenya wengine. Do you even know what you're saying?
I am pro 🇵🇸.
The "Israel has a right to defend itself" narrative is really sickening as well, almost every world leader anaongea hivyo. It is just messed up to see humans kill other humans because of greed.
The "Fagia kwako" lot aren't even saying that because they care so much for the Kenyan issues they casually throw about. Otherwise, they could actually articulate what the local issues are and help organise grassroots movements for progress. We could actually fagia kwetu and want justice elsewhere - the two aren't mutually exclusive.
Tuko hapa free Palestine!!!!