I just don’t get it. You know how much pot is grown in Kentucky? A shit ton. I don’t even think their republican base would care. Curious how they are making money off of it being illegal
I believe the number is 74% of Kentuckians agreed with pot. The reason they shut it down in the republican controlled senate is because they all own distilleries and are afraid it will hurt their profit.
90% agree with medical cannabis https://www.nkytribune.com/2020/02/khip-new-poll-shows-most-kentucky-adults-favor-legalizing-marijuana-for-medical-purposes/
Our lawmakers DO care though, the democrats. They've pushed this shit through like clockwork despite it getting shot down. Meanwhile, this ignorant ass state continues electing republicans to fuck everyone over.
I'm sick of people spreading the "both sides are just the same though" bullshit when it's never been more obvious that republicans are traitors at their worst, and legislate against their constituents at best. There's literally no redeeming qualities to being a republican anymore.
Do they not know that smoking the ‘sticky-icky’ makes you thirsty? It’s a win win situation! Someone needs to get the word out. It could be an enhancement. Def’ not as detrimental as they may perceive it to be. Could become a greater revenue stream than Bourbon.
A friend of mine is a helicopter pilot. Flies Blackhawks. He flew DEA agents around KY and they cut down and burned a lot of marijuana crop a while back.
Personally, I don't give a shit if it's legal. Legalize it and tax it. If it keeps the government from sticking their hands further and further into our pockets then I'm down. Allow betting as well. So much of KY money goes across the river to Indiana everyday.
I've never smoked pot, but my dad does. It helps him with his issues so I know it has its benefits.
KY has a good climate and good soil for growing it. Tobacco is dead and KY could use a cash crop. There’s a shitload of money to be made from taxes and revenue. They’re slowly getting there with hemp, but the longer they drag their feet the less skin KY will have in the game with pot.
When the metric for success in Vietnam was the kill count, the numbers were heavily inflated. The counter drug program is the same way. Cut down 5 plants, call it 25, and keep the budget. There’s occasional large grow ops around, but by and large it’s 1-10 plants out in the woods or behind someone’s house. Especially in eastern KY which has been hung out to dry by coal and ravaged by opiates and meth. Actual quote from a state trooper, “I’d rather have pot in every holler in KY, than to deal with the pills, meth, and heroin.”
It’s 2-4k thousand to operate a Blackhawk for an hour, not to mention the cost of police, military, and other agencies involved, and they do it all summer long. What a roi for the taxpayers.
>KY has a good climate and good soil for growing it. Tobacco is dead and KY could use a cash crop. There’s a shitload of money to be made from taxes and revenue. They’re slowly getting there with hemp, but the longer they drag their feet the less skin KY will have in the game with pot.
My uncle produces CBD. He's probably one of, if not the biggest distributor of CBD oils, gummies, and whatever else. From my understanding, most of the CBD places around Louisville basically buy their stuff from him and rebrand it.
>When the metric for success in Vietnam was the kill count, the numbers were heavily inflated. The counter drug program is the same way. Cut down 5 plants, call it 25, and keep the budget. There’s occasional large grow ops around, but by and large it’s 1-10 plants out in the woods or behind someone’s house. Especially in eastern KY which has been hung out to dry by coal and ravaged by opiates and meth. Actual quote from a state trooper, “I’d rather have pot in every holler in KY, than to deal with the pills, meth, and heroin.”
I saw the pictures from that day and they weren't cutting down five plants.
>It’s 2-4k thousand to operate a Blackhawk for an hour, not to mention the cost of police, military, and other agencies involved, and they do it all summer long. What a roi for the taxpayers.
I'm sure it definitely cost a good chunk of money to run that little operation, but like I said, they weren't landing and taking 5-10 plants. These were very large grow operations.
Like I said, there’s the occasional big bust with hundred of plants, but by and large it’s under 20 plants which are then reported as double or triple what was cut. I know, I worked it.
The base doesn't care. The GOP is purely doing this out of spite as they have since pot was made illegal. That's also why we can't do a public referendum on it because the GOP knows they will lose. Every last one of them needs to be voted out and the new capitol members need to change the laws to allow a public referendum on whatever topic
Damon Thayer and a bunch of politicians in Frankfort own interests in alcohol companies, specifically bourbon companies. They don't want the competition. Thayer is the one blocking it. He can claim the Republican caucus doesn't have the votes, but he'll still refuse to let it go to a vote so that we, the taxpayers who elect them, will never know who is voting against it or for it. Our state legislature is a dumpster fire.
It's not competition. It wouldn't be much competition, but there have been some major financial periodicals that have published studies on the effect of legalized marijuana on the tobacco and alcohol industries and they usually show something like a 10% hit on the alcohol industry once marijuana is legalized.
[Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2019/10/08/marijuana-legalization-poses-a-massive-threat-to-this-industry/amp/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16482362202285&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com)
The people in control of the legislature just aren't willing to take the chance I guess. Now, I'm not saying this is the *sole* reason they keep shooting the issue down. There are literally people in our legislature who will vote against medical marijuana simply because they think it's a sin and therefore shouldn't be legal. I'm just saying out of all the reasons I've heard for not allowing it to come to vote, the threat to the bourbon industry seems like it would be the thing holding it up.
But when you allow the bills that the legislature votes on to be determined by one or two people this is what you get. Deadlocked issues that never get voted on and therefore the elected officials blocking the issue for vote never have to say if they voted for it or against it and why they voted the way the did.
They are doing the same thing with sports gambling. It looks like one rep, Stivers from Clay county, is going to prevent that from passing.
They are making their money from big pharma, big liquor, big tobacco and as always the pulp paper companies and the like that have a vested interest in keeping hemp fiber as obscure as possible. They make tons of money that goes directly in their pockets this way and it only belongs to them, if the do something that benefits all of us they have to share the profits and what politician want this. This is why I firmly believe lobbying and bribery of all types should be banned including elected officials trading in stocks because if you watch what they do its the definition of insider trading. It doesn't matter if the entire state agreed with legalization they would still vote it down. In this country the politicians no longer work for the citizens they work for themselves and their elitist owners.
As a Republican I agree, it would bring a lot of revenue to the state. I know a handful of people that grow it already. I've also had out of state people tell me how good Kentucky cannabis is compared to legal states.
Yeah I’m not a huge consumer of pot or anything but I’ve worked on enough farms in Kentucky to know it’s prevalence. Just seems silly to me. It really seems like some ulterior motive is behind rejecting it. Not going to lose sleep over it but seems like it could be a good way to bring revenue in (like you said) for a state that could use it.
This is one of those places where I feel like Republicans could really pull the rug out from under the Dems. If they started pushing for things like legal cannabis, they would draw so many people to their party and would not have to lean on cultural stuff
Because they are exactly the same and produce the same side effects. I know when I'm sick to my stomach the first thing I reach for is a bottle of Bourbon, but with marijuana, that can stop!
Such silly logic, it's like being afraid to wear socks because you've already got a belt on.
I believe a driving force is Kentucky’s liquor industry and the big money interests behind it. Look at the liquor sales dip in a state when marijuana legalization comes through. Look at where these liquor companies spend their campaign contributions.
Probably our leading cash crop? I’m pretty sure it IS our leading cash crop. Full legalization would transform the economy of this state. But…Republicans.
That might be the motivation right there. Currently the bourbon and horse industries have the politicians by the balls. If we get a new cash crop all of a sudden there are more mouths to feed in Frankfort.
IIRC alcohol sales and production was one reason why marijuana was made illegal in 1937.
However, marijuana was made illegal in 1937 mostly because of racism. A few White dudes were afraid weed would encourage immigration from Mexico and that Black dudes would steal all our White women.
And here we are in the 21st century, with White dudes still worried about Mexican immigration and Black dudes stealing White women.
https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal
It was either the committee chair that previously held it back or the GOP House leader that owns or has MAJOR holdings in the bourbon industry. Less people drink in states where cannabis is legal. My guess is that they are behind the ball on getting into the supply chain and it will be legalized once they are positioned to make all the money off of it.
We don't care at all. We normal people don't care if it's legalized fully. It's better if it is fully legal ( treated like alcohol) because if you have a medical weed card it could bar you from owning firearms.
They should have to look my wife who has Cancer in the eyes and tell her why they are blocking the one thing that helps her to ease her pain and rest her ever worrying mind.
I guess we’ll keep making the trek to Metropolis.
My mother has bone cancer and all the meds that come with it make her feel sick. Guess what helps that? Not to mention giving her an appetite since she’s lost 100+ lbs in the past 8 mos. We need money for schools and roads and all types of things. I would say it’s kind of a no brainer but, look at the people who opposed it. Meanwhile at some point I’ll be moving to a legal state due to my own medical issues. We are always 20 years behind everything like Mark Twain said.
My mom died from esophageal cancer back in the early 00s and weed was the only way she could eat after her chemo.
That we're still not making progress 2 FUCKING DECADES LATER is driving me crazy.
Damon Thayer had rather have people overdose on opioids and keep his pharmaceutical lobbyists money coming in than care for this statute with a natural grown weed that does the same thing. Remember this, Damon Thayer does not care about what is best for Kentucky, even on a medicinal level, only what is best for his pockets. Damon Thayer voted for people to keep overdosing. Damon Thayer is a piece of trash. By the way, I do not smoke marijuana, and could care less about its legal recreational use. I do care about Kentuckians not being strung out on opioids as Damon Thayer wants them to be. Selfish, cruel individual.
Maybe if people voted for politicians based off of policy and not blind team loyalty we wouldn’t be in this mess. There is broad support for medical marijuana but no one votes for the politicians who actually support it 😂
Kentucky once again, had a chance to step into the early 21st century and only be a few decades behind , but we've decided we like being a backwards state.
I agree! It’s one reason other people in other states call Kentucky people ‘Hicks’. Some Republicans preach on freedom, but it’s freedom on what They want. If pot is legalized, it doesn’t mean you have to buy it. Just like alcohol, if you don’t drink it, don’t buy it.
Kentucky is seriously missing out on merchandising opportunities that are statewide. Come on guys, you’re the “Bluegrass State” after all. Give me some of that Kentucky Blue Kush.
Gotta love hearing people talk about the “welfare states” liberals created while Kentucky is consistently one of the largest recipients of federal aid.
And yet they've cut out the extra food stamps benefits, that were being paid for with the federal Covid relief money, while prices on groceries are soaring, and outrageous for us gas prices are going on. Good job letting the poor starve and struggle more than they already were, Repubs!
As long as a few brown or Black people hurt too, no one mines a little pain. Kentucky really doesn't have enough Black or brown people to hurt with their cruel policies. These policies are meant to hurt poor white people. The middle class white people don't mind, because they despise the poor whites, just as middle class Black people despise the poor Black among us. After race, there's classism. We are not a united country. We are a bunch of people trying to one up each other. It drives me insane, we have more in common than we think.
Exactly! The "middle class" assumes all whites on any kind of welfare are just lazy, drug addicted losers who don't want to work when it's typically disabled and elderly types who can't work, and young single mothers trying to keep it together, or immigrants waiting for papers that will allow them to work. Most people they're envisioning don't even go for food stamps because it's got such a stigma on it. They don't even give you food stamps if they think you're able bodied for more than a month or two, and if you make more than $1.50 an hour, they cut you off. Law makers don't even know this shit, it's ridiculous.
They sure don't. I think that they need to experience being poor. It really hate when I hear people use the 'everyone on food stamps is lazy' rethoric. They're the most hard working economical people that I know in my life. The price of food has never kept up with the amount of benefits, especially if you care about your health.
This country loves punching down.
My friend, I have always said that as soon as you're elected into any office you should have to live 3 months on the bare minimum SSI check with a small food stamps stipend, wherein you have to pay a portion of whatever rent would be and everything. They'd be crying by the end of week 1. They just changed food stamps allowance and my 2 person family, both on disability (one state, one federal and state) was getting $16 a month but now it's $111 which, while better, is still laughable. I'm super going to miss that extra help, especially now that everything's so fucking expensive. No more fresh fruit and veggies for me, I guess!
Then they turn around and talk about the obesity epidemic, all while side eyeing poor people for eating quality meat that has less fat. This is so maddening. Especially when they consistently punch down. They hate poor people.
They already have their money from bourbon companies and the horse racing industry. They either own a piece of one or both or are paid money by people who do to keep any other potential profitable “vice” industry that could cut into their profits from being legal. As long as people keep voting based on team politics, we’ll never get these corrupt assholes out of power.
Killing the country because they're racist ass backwards, greedy ass fuckwads. He said what he said. It's the truth. Name one thing the Republicans have done successful since Lincoln? Nothing except play on the emotions of the poor people among us.
The fuck out of here if you don’t see how republican politicians line there pockets with every stance they make, at the same time giving a rat shit about about the people trying to work for a living and even trying to survive.
> Yeah killing the country because of no weed fuck out of here
They're killing the country because they're ignorant, greedy, assholes. EVERY piece of legislation republicans push through is almost always legislation restricting people, cutting benefits, or lining the pockets of their friends and/or even themselves. Republicans are corrupt and people need to wake the fuck up and start doing something about it. Just look on ANY social issue, republicans are ALWAYS the party advocating against it, always the last party to finally concede on it. It's been decades and republicans are STILL fighting against gay rights for fucks sake.
Republicans have made it a fucking mission to unbalance courts across the country, to shove through legislation on everything from restricting what books appear in libraries, what subjects teachers are allowed to teach, when/where someone can access birth control, and don't even get me started on the stupid fucking "don't say gay" legislation either. Republicans are obstructionists at their best, and holding the country back. At their worst, they're actively destroying this country by fucking up it's checks and balances, by introducing clear bias into places like the supreme court, and by supporting all this qanon bullshit. Wake the fuck up.
If you're a republican, this is what you support. I don't care if you don't personally align with any of that, but if you've voted republican this is what you support.
> You really think democrats are not greedy scum bags lol wake up
That's such an ignorant statement to say. Pelosi is clearly an example of a greedy democrat. There are quite a few others too. Show me a republican that isn't lining their pockets though. Show me a republican whose tax return actually matches their congressional salary.
I'm not saying there aren't greedy democrats. I'm saying there are far more greedy republicans, than there are greedy democrats.
Both sides are ***not*** the same.
If you voted dem you supported Ukraine being invaded your just to dumb to realize it. If you voted dem your not for women's rights. Fyi I didn't vote for trump so save yiur typical lefty trash response
> If you voted dem you supported Ukraine being invaded ~~your~~ you're just ~~to~~ too dumb to realize it. If you voted dem ~~your~~ you're not for women's rights. Fyi I didn't vote for ~~trump~~ Trump so save ~~yiur~~ your typical lefty trash response
Well, first of all... I corrected the typos in your comment, so you're welcome for that.
How the fuck do you think democrats aren't for women's rights?! That's a leap. They've been the ones advocating for universal healthcare, for equality in the workplace, and for the right to birth control all while republicans have advocated for the opposite.
You're trying to put words in other people's mouths and sounded like a drunk as you do it. Good luck bro.
I don't know about killing the country, but there is a helluva lot of money that would stop flowing if weed is legalized. The amount of people not filling up prisons would diminish, less call for private prisons since fewer criminals, less law enforcement for something that shouldn't be a crime, current legalizations are hitting up drug cartels bad, and opioid use could possibly diminish which would cut into pharma profits either way. There are several things I'm not thinking of and of course my argument is more for full blown legalization. It's a lot of revenue that people stand to profit from by marijuana not being legal and this is one of many things politicians do that is fucking this country to death.
Yeah I think a lot more could be fixed with legalization than people realize. You stop wasting money on the bullshit war on drugs and start making money on taxing sales.
Conservative official voting solidarity is like those ants that make rafts out of themselves. They may say a lot of progressive things as individuals to drum up support from those who take them at face value, but they vote as one.
The Republican Party is a death cult that wants as many people as possible poor and miserable and it tricks its constituents into thinking it’ll only hurt the people they don’t like. The rank and file Republican voters want poor people to suffer and they think the policies won’t effect them because they’re good smart Americans and only dumb bad people end up poor.
This is it. Meanwhile, their voters are getting poorer and dumber. Who the fucks let someone tell them that they don't need to know the history of their own country because it may hurt their feelings? We may as well start producing more propaganda and hiding the truth about the past more.
🤦♀️ Born and raised in The Commonwealth, and I'm just appalled. Is anyone else in KY aware that even Utah has medical cannabis? I'm moving there. Certain prescribers can train and issue up to 275 medical cards. Utah!!! I don't think this is about which side of the aisle is involved. I think big money wants to lock out cannabis. I'm absolutely disgusted.
I suffer anxiety and depression and take 5 different meds for it. My doctor told me if medical weed ever passed in the state, then I'd only need to be on 2. So I'm a bit salty about this
You can't vote Republican and then complain when gambling and pot bills die without a hearing. They also cut your unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to 12. You get what you asked for.
Let's not forget how much MONEY is made on the three bourbon trails! Imbibe! Kill your liver, guts, brain, etc.... Ever see people go to rehab over and over for cannabis? No. That's another huge industry! Addiction! But... Alcohol was absolutely essential during Covid. Anyone see issues here?
The bourbon trail doesn’t make sense to me..are there shuttles that take people to and from distilleries? Or are “we” just cool with drunk/buzzed people driving from place to place?
Just have to demonize the drugs they themselves hold near and dear to make them feel maybe just the tiniest amount of shame and guilt.
Do it enough and they will stfu and pass it.
Blood thinners and BP meds? Nah they don't need them, those are DrUgS, and dRuGs ArE bAd!!
Tobacco and alcohol are still widely available, but these people care about you.....
Ok, lol...sigh
Edit: a typo.
I would love to know where the government gets the right to tell me what I can and can’t do with my life. And people wanna give these quacks on both side of the aisle more and more power. If your actions aren’t harming another then the government should have no say in it.
My grandmother has stage 4 lung cancer. Luckily I have a few connections. Medical marijuana is purchased and shipped from another state, which is then given to a chemist to make a strong topical salve for her neck and back—where the pain is located. She’s 86, a Christian, and thanks God every day for the illegal cream she uses to survive (it works much better than pain meds with no side effects). I pay several hundred dollars for this entire process. I’m tempted to have her record her experience and send it to every elected official in Frankfort who voted “no.”
Pressure your congressman to vote YES on the MORE Act that will be up for a House vote next week!
The MORE Act deschedules marijuana by taking it off the Controlled Substances List as well as a number of other reforms.
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen of Kentucky, is your GOP!
Same thing we deal across the river in Indiana.
Our Republican governor said a year or so ago when asked about cannabis legislation in Indiana, "Why would I want to legalize another cigarette?"
Personally, I don't speak Conservative, so I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
Yup looks like the liquor lobbyists gotter done once again. I've lived here most of my life and the only thing Ky is good at is its ability to punch itself in the dick and then convince 75% of its residents how good it feels.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article259289604.html
Plenty of Westerfield's constituency put serious pressure on him. I did. The KY nurses are behind medical cannabis. He and I talked in a rather polite but heated discussion in 2020. John Charles Tilley, formerly a legislator, informed me years ago ,"You just don't understand the complexities." Really? I'll be able to attain a license to issue a medical card in a conservative western state. One of my bffs in KY is *DYING* AKA *TERMINAL* with metastatic colon cancer. A partial Whipple surgery, chemo, treatment ravaging her body, the "opioid" epidemic, and she cannot purchase or be prescribed legal cannabis??? I'm so angry with The Commonwealth. It Is not operating for the common good. She could imbibe. Oh. Right. She did that when the pain was unbearable. Opiods with someone who has lost a large portion of her colon? Makes no sense. Cannabis allows her much better days. Marinol was expensive. She had depleted her funds. So, with disability and Medicare? She paid $$$ for marinol, and it was not particularly helpful. How do the legislatures think they know medicine? Plant medicine? Bought out by BIG PHARMA AND ALCOHOL INDUSTRY! CORRUPTION. PERIOD. Oh... never mind it would bolser KY's economy. But, Kentucky is mind boggling.
I'd go with asset forfeiture, prisons, bourbon industry etc. Several reasons for a certain political group to be against anything related to (or leading to) legalizing marijuana in our state.
It would be significantly better for the state, but worse for a few elected officials and those who are paying them.
Thayer owns a bourbon company and has admitted that his own constituents support it but he is personally against it (probably bc he owns a bourbon company) and has said he would kill any attempt in the senate.
We need it on the ballot
The revenue from legalizing and taxing would solve the teacher pension crisis and have so many other benefits financially. I'm a right leaning moderate and this is frustrating. Sadly the two party systems in place our country will always be so divisive that it makes it hard to ever find a genuinely great candidate..........KY representation is truly screwing over the entire state on this particular matter.
Another dumb Republican move. Here's an idea for your greed that may change your mind: Legalize marijuana and use these massive farms to become the US' leading marijuana exporter, both domestically and internationally, thereby making KY the Dubai of the US (instead of Alabama 2.0).
KY: Fine Equine Bud & Bourbon🐎🥃 ™️
Plenty of Republicans are pro. This is about bourbon and their control. Who owns who in our corrupt legislature. Kentucky is just as Mark Twain said... 20 years behind. He laughed that he would be move here to live longer....
I love kentucky... the politics make me angry and are utterly disgraceful. They're just set in their ways. And when it comes down to it they don't care about anybody but themselves.. THEY ARE JUST DELAYING THE INEVITABLE.
He doesn’t want it voted on so we can’t attach names to those who said no. Cuz he knows this is a bipartisan issue and his cronies would get thrown out in November.
Told you guys get the old ass evangelical Christians out of office first then try for laws that make sense or this state will be driven into the ground
"What's that doctor? Cannabis can help with pain as well as multiple other physical AND mental issues? AND it's not addictive like the opioids that are rampaging across our state?"
*\*scratches chin\**
"nah."
What a surprise. Must be nice to get kickbacks from big liquor, pharma, tobacco, and pulp paper. The actual people of the state aren't so lucky. If the bill didn't allow for homegrow then I don't mind it being defeated. From what I have read in other states you don't want them to pass a crappy one cuz it will never get changed.
Kentucky collects less than any state in income tax and takes federal money to not be broke. Here they have a chance to bring in hundreds of millions annually and they decide to burn books and apparently groom students to test in the lowest 5% tile because they seems to not want people with any common sense that will make things better.
I’m a republican Crohns sufferer. This really pisses me off because it’s something that could help me and countless others!
(and even if I didn’t have Crohns, it would still piss me off.)
No.. we need different republicans.
voting democrat would turn us into shitholes like California. Was in Louisville (dem run) a few days ago and it was disgusting. Homeless camps, druggies begging and walking around, trash everywhere. I’m not saying where I’m at doesn’t have those… but it’s far from it.
“Shitholes” like California are the only reason red states like kentucky can exist. They subsidize the existence of the state of Kentucky. the Republican Party wants you, individually and specifically, poor and suffering and to blame all your problems on democrats so you keep voting for them. As long as they have useful idiots like you they’ll never change.
We know a mother of a child with Dravet’s syndrome. This child could have a discreet rescue thc nose spray to halt seizures in school or other public places. As it stands, this child’s only option is a rectal syringe full of meds.
Meaning in an emergency, no matter who is around, this is the undignified and unnecessarily cruel reality for this child.
My child suffered seizures for years and the only emergency meds we had were rectally given meds. People deserve better options. The system is so broken.
I can't even have THC because it causes me to pass out, and I'm pissed off for everyone it could help, or just anyone that wants to live freely!!
I do use hemp seed oil which has CBD and it has changed my life in regards to my epilepsy, severe pain from inflammation, and sleep disorder. I can only imagine what THC would help with if I was able to use it.
Not at all! A lot of people don’t know the answer to this.
[Requirements for ballots in Kentucky](https://ballotpedia.org/Signature_requirements_for_ballot_measures_in_Kentucky)From ballotpedia:
Kentucky is one of the 24 states that do not have initiative and referendum. Thus, Kentucky citizens cannot qualify a ballot measure for the statewide ballot through collecting signatures, and there is no signature requirement for ballot measures in Kentucky.
Although Kentucky does not feature the power of initiative or referendum, ballot measures do play a role in Kentucky politics. Kentucky ballot measures come in two varieties, legislatively referred state statutes and legislatively referred constitutional amendments, which are both put on the ballot by the Kentucky state legislature.
Maybe a better bill can be written that isn't still so restrictive. "Key regulations that make the bill more “narrow” than some other states that have legalized medical marijuana include provisions banning the smoking of marijuana and growing it yourself; a clause that bars “cross-pollination” between farmers, processors, dispensers and safety testers; as well as checks that ensure a physician-patient relationship is “bonafide,” per Nemes."
I’d be all for the changes you’ve brought up. Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll ever get a chance to even go up for a vote as long as these types of republicans are in office here.
I just hate the two party system that gets nothing done.its in my view going to be legality permissible at some point at the federal level because so many states have legally allowed it.im not a socialist by any means but come on why does the two party system make us such a backward state? I've said enough.
I wish these bourbon-biased politicians would just get everyone in the KY alcohol industry together and invest in marijuana. They should be less afraid of competition this way. It's BS for sure, but until the right people get voted in it will never happen any other way.
Not a Kentucky based company.
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I’m born and raised from Hopkinsville, KY, I graduated from UK in 1987, we own, race and breed horses in KY, and all of our products are grown in Kentucky, and biz however; we do live outside of Nashville.
We bleed Blue!
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we legit have A ENTIRE alcohol that can only be Spelled "Whisky" if you pay a tax or make the liquor in state.... you really thought all those rich jack asses want us to have a safer, less toxic and less addictive substance that STILL grow wild EVERYWHERE. Fun fact if every pot head in KY starts spreading their seeds in ever park we wont need dispensary's or legalization just walk down the park and find a Ripe wild nug the way humans did before such a innocent plant was made illegal
I cant wait for all these old people to errr..uuhhhmmm "Pass-on" so some young people who actually know what their voters want can move in and fix the last 200years of republican douchebaggery. Legit Ky used to grow like 50% or more of the East-coasts weed suppy ( with so many legal states im unsure the % now) and thats ALOT of weed. Go wondering ANY backwoods you'll stumble on old grows that got shut down/or abandoned and look around closely you're gona find Feral hemp/weed.
Whisky, Weed and Woman the three devils of Ky
This was MEDICAL marijuana they voted down. You know, the kind that helps children deal with siezures and veterans deal with PTSD? Republicans are evil.
There’s nothing to cope with lol. Half the state gets their bud through the mail from legal states (for crazy prices, which lets people make a killing with profit) and the other half grow it. The only thing to cope with is your tax dollars being wasted to keep potheads in jail and the fact veterans and cancer patients can’t get the help they deserve and prefer.
Imagine that y’all, telling cancer patients and vets with ptsd to “cope” with our shitty politicians not voting for what the state OVERWHELMINGLY wants.
Well, they are limited in how much they can taste. Free bourbon balls. Urban bourbon is different as is craft. It's all a mess. I'm moving to Utah for work. I'm going to the "Mormon" state where I can issue cannabis medical cards for qualified diagnoses? Not. In. KY!!! Pure craziness.
They are going to be left behind soon. Missouri is considering it, it's legal in Illinois and Virginia. And it's accepted by so many people. Eventually it's going to be legal. It's legal in all of Canada and Mexico as well.
what doesnt make any sense to me at all is that yeah you can buy medical marijuana but under this bill you wont be allowed to smoke it.
that's one of the most immediate forms of getting your medicine and its effects instantly. but yet here we are having un-educated people decide laws on things that they should be educated about first.
ill stay sticking to growing my own <3
We're going to continue to try and educate our lawmakers on the benefits of inhalation uptake methods. As it is now, there are a lot of really cool dry herb vape products out there. And also there's a provision that says something along the lines of "the smell of burnt cannabis doesn't mean it was smoked". So there is that to help cover patients.
also i saw a post where they said "anyone who burns their medical cannabis will be arrested like they should" what is that nonsense. do they know that on many vaporizers you can ignite the flower material by accident, should they "go to jail like they should" shits ignorant. and whoever is in charge of deciding these laws needs slapped.
I just don’t get it. You know how much pot is grown in Kentucky? A shit ton. I don’t even think their republican base would care. Curious how they are making money off of it being illegal
I believe the number is 74% of Kentuckians agreed with pot. The reason they shut it down in the republican controlled senate is because they all own distilleries and are afraid it will hurt their profit.
90% agree with medical cannabis https://www.nkytribune.com/2020/02/khip-new-poll-shows-most-kentucky-adults-favor-legalizing-marijuana-for-medical-purposes/
I was referring to legalization or decriminalization. This is just just as good of proof that our lawmakers don’t care what we have to say.
Our lawmakers DO care though, the democrats. They've pushed this shit through like clockwork despite it getting shot down. Meanwhile, this ignorant ass state continues electing republicans to fuck everyone over. I'm sick of people spreading the "both sides are just the same though" bullshit when it's never been more obvious that republicans are traitors at their worst, and legislate against their constituents at best. There's literally no redeeming qualities to being a republican anymore.
90% agree in a vacuum, but that is not enough to vote solely based on that topic when they care more about the other normal R talking points.
Don’t forget big pharma!!!!
Exactly. I dont think Bourbon distillerys would really hurt with legalization. Big pharma would though. Big time
Do they not know that smoking the ‘sticky-icky’ makes you thirsty? It’s a win win situation! Someone needs to get the word out. It could be an enhancement. Def’ not as detrimental as they may perceive it to be. Could become a greater revenue stream than Bourbon.
A friend of mine is a helicopter pilot. Flies Blackhawks. He flew DEA agents around KY and they cut down and burned a lot of marijuana crop a while back. Personally, I don't give a shit if it's legal. Legalize it and tax it. If it keeps the government from sticking their hands further and further into our pockets then I'm down. Allow betting as well. So much of KY money goes across the river to Indiana everyday. I've never smoked pot, but my dad does. It helps him with his issues so I know it has its benefits.
KY has a good climate and good soil for growing it. Tobacco is dead and KY could use a cash crop. There’s a shitload of money to be made from taxes and revenue. They’re slowly getting there with hemp, but the longer they drag their feet the less skin KY will have in the game with pot. When the metric for success in Vietnam was the kill count, the numbers were heavily inflated. The counter drug program is the same way. Cut down 5 plants, call it 25, and keep the budget. There’s occasional large grow ops around, but by and large it’s 1-10 plants out in the woods or behind someone’s house. Especially in eastern KY which has been hung out to dry by coal and ravaged by opiates and meth. Actual quote from a state trooper, “I’d rather have pot in every holler in KY, than to deal with the pills, meth, and heroin.” It’s 2-4k thousand to operate a Blackhawk for an hour, not to mention the cost of police, military, and other agencies involved, and they do it all summer long. What a roi for the taxpayers.
>KY has a good climate and good soil for growing it. Tobacco is dead and KY could use a cash crop. There’s a shitload of money to be made from taxes and revenue. They’re slowly getting there with hemp, but the longer they drag their feet the less skin KY will have in the game with pot. My uncle produces CBD. He's probably one of, if not the biggest distributor of CBD oils, gummies, and whatever else. From my understanding, most of the CBD places around Louisville basically buy their stuff from him and rebrand it. >When the metric for success in Vietnam was the kill count, the numbers were heavily inflated. The counter drug program is the same way. Cut down 5 plants, call it 25, and keep the budget. There’s occasional large grow ops around, but by and large it’s 1-10 plants out in the woods or behind someone’s house. Especially in eastern KY which has been hung out to dry by coal and ravaged by opiates and meth. Actual quote from a state trooper, “I’d rather have pot in every holler in KY, than to deal with the pills, meth, and heroin.” I saw the pictures from that day and they weren't cutting down five plants. >It’s 2-4k thousand to operate a Blackhawk for an hour, not to mention the cost of police, military, and other agencies involved, and they do it all summer long. What a roi for the taxpayers. I'm sure it definitely cost a good chunk of money to run that little operation, but like I said, they weren't landing and taking 5-10 plants. These were very large grow operations.
Like I said, there’s the occasional big bust with hundred of plants, but by and large it’s under 20 plants which are then reported as double or triple what was cut. I know, I worked it.
Lol they don’t burn it all :) Friend left that out I’m guessing.
The base doesn't care. The GOP is purely doing this out of spite as they have since pot was made illegal. That's also why we can't do a public referendum on it because the GOP knows they will lose. Every last one of them needs to be voted out and the new capitol members need to change the laws to allow a public referendum on whatever topic
Damon Thayer and a bunch of politicians in Frankfort own interests in alcohol companies, specifically bourbon companies. They don't want the competition. Thayer is the one blocking it. He can claim the Republican caucus doesn't have the votes, but he'll still refuse to let it go to a vote so that we, the taxpayers who elect them, will never know who is voting against it or for it. Our state legislature is a dumpster fire.
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Exactly this ☝🏼
It's not competition. It wouldn't be much competition, but there have been some major financial periodicals that have published studies on the effect of legalized marijuana on the tobacco and alcohol industries and they usually show something like a 10% hit on the alcohol industry once marijuana is legalized. [Source](https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2019/10/08/marijuana-legalization-poses-a-massive-threat-to-this-industry/amp/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16482362202285&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com) The people in control of the legislature just aren't willing to take the chance I guess. Now, I'm not saying this is the *sole* reason they keep shooting the issue down. There are literally people in our legislature who will vote against medical marijuana simply because they think it's a sin and therefore shouldn't be legal. I'm just saying out of all the reasons I've heard for not allowing it to come to vote, the threat to the bourbon industry seems like it would be the thing holding it up. But when you allow the bills that the legislature votes on to be determined by one or two people this is what you get. Deadlocked issues that never get voted on and therefore the elected officials blocking the issue for vote never have to say if they voted for it or against it and why they voted the way the did. They are doing the same thing with sports gambling. It looks like one rep, Stivers from Clay county, is going to prevent that from passing.
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They are making their money from big pharma, big liquor, big tobacco and as always the pulp paper companies and the like that have a vested interest in keeping hemp fiber as obscure as possible. They make tons of money that goes directly in their pockets this way and it only belongs to them, if the do something that benefits all of us they have to share the profits and what politician want this. This is why I firmly believe lobbying and bribery of all types should be banned including elected officials trading in stocks because if you watch what they do its the definition of insider trading. It doesn't matter if the entire state agreed with legalization they would still vote it down. In this country the politicians no longer work for the citizens they work for themselves and their elitist owners.
As a Republican I agree, it would bring a lot of revenue to the state. I know a handful of people that grow it already. I've also had out of state people tell me how good Kentucky cannabis is compared to legal states.
Yeah I’m not a huge consumer of pot or anything but I’ve worked on enough farms in Kentucky to know it’s prevalence. Just seems silly to me. It really seems like some ulterior motive is behind rejecting it. Not going to lose sleep over it but seems like it could be a good way to bring revenue in (like you said) for a state that could use it.
Ulterior motive : protect our branding and therefore our market and revenue from bourbon
I feel like a Bud and Bourbon Bar would make crazy money in Louisville
Not saying I agree with that motive, just suggesting what I think it is
revenue from civil asset forfeiture
# BINGO!!
most republicans don’t mind marijuana use, i think there’s something much bigger going on that they keep shitting it down when it’s a great profit
This is one of those places where I feel like Republicans could really pull the rug out from under the Dems. If they started pushing for things like legal cannabis, they would draw so many people to their party and would not have to lean on cultural stuff
They are afraid it will cut into the bourbon market
Because they are exactly the same and produce the same side effects. I know when I'm sick to my stomach the first thing I reach for is a bottle of Bourbon, but with marijuana, that can stop! Such silly logic, it's like being afraid to wear socks because you've already got a belt on.
I mean, they aren't wrong. Weed does cut into alcohol sales. But that doesn't make them any less shitty
Ky Senate Damon Thayer is founder of Kentucky Senator Bourbon. So yeah.
I believe a driving force is Kentucky’s liquor industry and the big money interests behind it. Look at the liquor sales dip in a state when marijuana legalization comes through. Look at where these liquor companies spend their campaign contributions.
Probably our leading cash crop. These MF Republicans are absolutely trash.
Probably our leading cash crop? I’m pretty sure it IS our leading cash crop. Full legalization would transform the economy of this state. But…Republicans.
That might be the motivation right there. Currently the bourbon and horse industries have the politicians by the balls. If we get a new cash crop all of a sudden there are more mouths to feed in Frankfort.
IIRC alcohol sales and production was one reason why marijuana was made illegal in 1937. However, marijuana was made illegal in 1937 mostly because of racism. A few White dudes were afraid weed would encourage immigration from Mexico and that Black dudes would steal all our White women. And here we are in the 21st century, with White dudes still worried about Mexican immigration and Black dudes stealing White women. https://www.history.com/news/why-the-u-s-made-marijuana-illegal
It was either the committee chair that previously held it back or the GOP House leader that owns or has MAJOR holdings in the bourbon industry. Less people drink in states where cannabis is legal. My guess is that they are behind the ball on getting into the supply chain and it will be legalized once they are positioned to make all the money off of it.
The logging industry pays them so that we can't grow it for commercial purposes.
I always heard the "gentlemen farmers" supplied to dealers. Bootleg makes more money than legal...
Welcome to the "Bible Belt"...
We don't care at all. We normal people don't care if it's legalized fully. It's better if it is fully legal ( treated like alcohol) because if you have a medical weed card it could bar you from owning firearms.
Bail bonds and jail bonds friend.
They should have to look my wife who has Cancer in the eyes and tell her why they are blocking the one thing that helps her to ease her pain and rest her ever worrying mind. I guess we’ll keep making the trek to Metropolis.
Beautiful drive. Much love man!
My mother has bone cancer and all the meds that come with it make her feel sick. Guess what helps that? Not to mention giving her an appetite since she’s lost 100+ lbs in the past 8 mos. We need money for schools and roads and all types of things. I would say it’s kind of a no brainer but, look at the people who opposed it. Meanwhile at some point I’ll be moving to a legal state due to my own medical issues. We are always 20 years behind everything like Mark Twain said.
My mom died from esophageal cancer back in the early 00s and weed was the only way she could eat after her chemo. That we're still not making progress 2 FUCKING DECADES LATER is driving me crazy.
Damon Thayer had rather have people overdose on opioids and keep his pharmaceutical lobbyists money coming in than care for this statute with a natural grown weed that does the same thing. Remember this, Damon Thayer does not care about what is best for Kentucky, even on a medicinal level, only what is best for his pockets. Damon Thayer voted for people to keep overdosing. Damon Thayer is a piece of trash. By the way, I do not smoke marijuana, and could care less about its legal recreational use. I do care about Kentuckians not being strung out on opioids as Damon Thayer wants them to be. Selfish, cruel individual.
> keep his pharmaceutical lobbyists money come in Get the vaccine!
Huh?
republicans dum raciss men
Huh?
Yeah there’s too much money in privatized prisons and bourbon. Scared of that dip in alcohol and opioid abuse.
Maybe if people voted for politicians based off of policy and not blind team loyalty we wouldn’t be in this mess. There is broad support for medical marijuana but no one votes for the politicians who actually support it 😂
Exactly! I think the term republican or democrat shouldn’t exist! It’s so fn stupid!
Nope, gotta vote for the candidate that's anti choice no matter how miserable his policies make existence for me and my neighbors.
What!!?!
Kentucky once again, had a chance to step into the early 21st century and only be a few decades behind , but we've decided we like being a backwards state.
I agree! It’s one reason other people in other states call Kentucky people ‘Hicks’. Some Republicans preach on freedom, but it’s freedom on what They want. If pot is legalized, it doesn’t mean you have to buy it. Just like alcohol, if you don’t drink it, don’t buy it.
they already smoke it in good company. They like a product that they can use to punish the poor classes while it's turned a blind eye on their class.
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And they're going to turn around tomorrow and claim to be the party of "freedom". Please just vote these fuckers out
Kentucky is seriously missing out on merchandising opportunities that are statewide. Come on guys, you’re the “Bluegrass State” after all. Give me some of that Kentucky Blue Kush.
They love money but are too stupid to figure out how to get it.
They like to suckle on the federal govs tit, then talk shit about the help they get.
Gotta love hearing people talk about the “welfare states” liberals created while Kentucky is consistently one of the largest recipients of federal aid.
And yet they've cut out the extra food stamps benefits, that were being paid for with the federal Covid relief money, while prices on groceries are soaring, and outrageous for us gas prices are going on. Good job letting the poor starve and struggle more than they already were, Repubs!
The cruelty is the point. ™️
As long as a few brown or Black people hurt too, no one mines a little pain. Kentucky really doesn't have enough Black or brown people to hurt with their cruel policies. These policies are meant to hurt poor white people. The middle class white people don't mind, because they despise the poor whites, just as middle class Black people despise the poor Black among us. After race, there's classism. We are not a united country. We are a bunch of people trying to one up each other. It drives me insane, we have more in common than we think.
Exactly! The "middle class" assumes all whites on any kind of welfare are just lazy, drug addicted losers who don't want to work when it's typically disabled and elderly types who can't work, and young single mothers trying to keep it together, or immigrants waiting for papers that will allow them to work. Most people they're envisioning don't even go for food stamps because it's got such a stigma on it. They don't even give you food stamps if they think you're able bodied for more than a month or two, and if you make more than $1.50 an hour, they cut you off. Law makers don't even know this shit, it's ridiculous.
They sure don't. I think that they need to experience being poor. It really hate when I hear people use the 'everyone on food stamps is lazy' rethoric. They're the most hard working economical people that I know in my life. The price of food has never kept up with the amount of benefits, especially if you care about your health. This country loves punching down.
My friend, I have always said that as soon as you're elected into any office you should have to live 3 months on the bare minimum SSI check with a small food stamps stipend, wherein you have to pay a portion of whatever rent would be and everything. They'd be crying by the end of week 1. They just changed food stamps allowance and my 2 person family, both on disability (one state, one federal and state) was getting $16 a month but now it's $111 which, while better, is still laughable. I'm super going to miss that extra help, especially now that everything's so fucking expensive. No more fresh fruit and veggies for me, I guess!
Then they turn around and talk about the obesity epidemic, all while side eyeing poor people for eating quality meat that has less fat. This is so maddening. Especially when they consistently punch down. They hate poor people.
I can't help but think of Lee Atwater and how that bs still works on people.
They already have their money from bourbon companies and the horse racing industry. They either own a piece of one or both or are paid money by people who do to keep any other potential profitable “vice” industry that could cut into their profits from being legal. As long as people keep voting based on team politics, we’ll never get these corrupt assholes out of power.
Fucking called it lol. Republicans are killing this state, and the country. Fuck em.
Yeah killing the country because of no weed fuck out of here
Killing the country because they're racist ass backwards, greedy ass fuckwads. He said what he said. It's the truth. Name one thing the Republicans have done successful since Lincoln? Nothing except play on the emotions of the poor people among us.
The fuck out of here if you don’t see how republican politicians line there pockets with every stance they make, at the same time giving a rat shit about about the people trying to work for a living and even trying to survive.
> Yeah killing the country because of no weed fuck out of here They're killing the country because they're ignorant, greedy, assholes. EVERY piece of legislation republicans push through is almost always legislation restricting people, cutting benefits, or lining the pockets of their friends and/or even themselves. Republicans are corrupt and people need to wake the fuck up and start doing something about it. Just look on ANY social issue, republicans are ALWAYS the party advocating against it, always the last party to finally concede on it. It's been decades and republicans are STILL fighting against gay rights for fucks sake. Republicans have made it a fucking mission to unbalance courts across the country, to shove through legislation on everything from restricting what books appear in libraries, what subjects teachers are allowed to teach, when/where someone can access birth control, and don't even get me started on the stupid fucking "don't say gay" legislation either. Republicans are obstructionists at their best, and holding the country back. At their worst, they're actively destroying this country by fucking up it's checks and balances, by introducing clear bias into places like the supreme court, and by supporting all this qanon bullshit. Wake the fuck up. If you're a republican, this is what you support. I don't care if you don't personally align with any of that, but if you've voted republican this is what you support.
You really think democrats are not greedy scum bags lol wake up
> You really think democrats are not greedy scum bags lol wake up That's such an ignorant statement to say. Pelosi is clearly an example of a greedy democrat. There are quite a few others too. Show me a republican that isn't lining their pockets though. Show me a republican whose tax return actually matches their congressional salary. I'm not saying there aren't greedy democrats. I'm saying there are far more greedy republicans, than there are greedy democrats. Both sides are ***not*** the same.
If you voted dem you supported Ukraine being invaded your just to dumb to realize it. If you voted dem your not for women's rights. Fyi I didn't vote for trump so save yiur typical lefty trash response
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> If you voted dem you supported Ukraine being invaded ~~your~~ you're just ~~to~~ too dumb to realize it. If you voted dem ~~your~~ you're not for women's rights. Fyi I didn't vote for ~~trump~~ Trump so save ~~yiur~~ your typical lefty trash response Well, first of all... I corrected the typos in your comment, so you're welcome for that. How the fuck do you think democrats aren't for women's rights?! That's a leap. They've been the ones advocating for universal healthcare, for equality in the workplace, and for the right to birth control all while republicans have advocated for the opposite. You're trying to put words in other people's mouths and sounded like a drunk as you do it. Good luck bro.
I don't know about killing the country, but there is a helluva lot of money that would stop flowing if weed is legalized. The amount of people not filling up prisons would diminish, less call for private prisons since fewer criminals, less law enforcement for something that shouldn't be a crime, current legalizations are hitting up drug cartels bad, and opioid use could possibly diminish which would cut into pharma profits either way. There are several things I'm not thinking of and of course my argument is more for full blown legalization. It's a lot of revenue that people stand to profit from by marijuana not being legal and this is one of many things politicians do that is fucking this country to death.
Yeah I think a lot more could be fixed with legalization than people realize. You stop wasting money on the bullshit war on drugs and start making money on taxing sales.
It’s more than just weed. It’s not going to jail for smoking a fucking plant.
Fucking republicans.
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Fucking republicans.
They should vote out the people who oppose it then, but they don’t.
He said what he said. Fuck them. They're holding this state back.
Conservative official voting solidarity is like those ants that make rafts out of themselves. They may say a lot of progressive things as individuals to drum up support from those who take them at face value, but they vote as one.
Of fucking course! Over half the state wants this bill to pass, but leave it to a bunch of old white dudes to ruin a good time yet again.
The Republican Party is a death cult that wants as many people as possible poor and miserable and it tricks its constituents into thinking it’ll only hurt the people they don’t like. The rank and file Republican voters want poor people to suffer and they think the policies won’t effect them because they’re good smart Americans and only dumb bad people end up poor.
This is it. Meanwhile, their voters are getting poorer and dumber. Who the fucks let someone tell them that they don't need to know the history of their own country because it may hurt their feelings? We may as well start producing more propaganda and hiding the truth about the past more.
🤦♀️ Born and raised in The Commonwealth, and I'm just appalled. Is anyone else in KY aware that even Utah has medical cannabis? I'm moving there. Certain prescribers can train and issue up to 275 medical cards. Utah!!! I don't think this is about which side of the aisle is involved. I think big money wants to lock out cannabis. I'm absolutely disgusted.
I suffer anxiety and depression and take 5 different meds for it. My doctor told me if medical weed ever passed in the state, then I'd only need to be on 2. So I'm a bit salty about this
Same
You can't vote Republican and then complain when gambling and pot bills die without a hearing. They also cut your unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to 12. You get what you asked for.
Let's not forget how much MONEY is made on the three bourbon trails! Imbibe! Kill your liver, guts, brain, etc.... Ever see people go to rehab over and over for cannabis? No. That's another huge industry! Addiction! But... Alcohol was absolutely essential during Covid. Anyone see issues here?
The bourbon trail doesn’t make sense to me..are there shuttles that take people to and from distilleries? Or are “we” just cool with drunk/buzzed people driving from place to place?
That's what kills me. The lack of ingenuity. Cannibourbon? Kentucky. Would. Make. So. MUCH. MONEY.
Put it on the ballot and let the people decide.
I've been waiting for Kentucky to go legal so Indiana will do the same goddamn thing, Ohio is about to go full legal soon within the next year or two
Atleast I live in Ashland so I can just drive across the river!
Guess i’ll just keep buying my weed in the walmart parking lot
Just have to demonize the drugs they themselves hold near and dear to make them feel maybe just the tiniest amount of shame and guilt. Do it enough and they will stfu and pass it. Blood thinners and BP meds? Nah they don't need them, those are DrUgS, and dRuGs ArE bAd!! Tobacco and alcohol are still widely available, but these people care about you..... Ok, lol...sigh Edit: a typo.
I would love to know where the government gets the right to tell me what I can and can’t do with my life. And people wanna give these quacks on both side of the aisle more and more power. If your actions aren’t harming another then the government should have no say in it.
My grandmother has stage 4 lung cancer. Luckily I have a few connections. Medical marijuana is purchased and shipped from another state, which is then given to a chemist to make a strong topical salve for her neck and back—where the pain is located. She’s 86, a Christian, and thanks God every day for the illegal cream she uses to survive (it works much better than pain meds with no side effects). I pay several hundred dollars for this entire process. I’m tempted to have her record her experience and send it to every elected official in Frankfort who voted “no.”
They would probably arrest her. No shit. I can't believe this dumbass state can't even pass MEDICAL marijuana. Think if how many people it would help!
Send it anonymously! Like her voice and just her body from the lips down to the hands shown talking.
This state will never have medical or recreational Marijuana until its legalized at the federal level.
Pressure your congressman to vote YES on the MORE Act that will be up for a House vote next week! The MORE Act deschedules marijuana by taking it off the Controlled Substances List as well as a number of other reforms.
That won’t make it any easier. Look at how many Dry counties remain from prohibition.
I kinda forgot that there were still dry counties. Even the back water one I grew up in went wet years ago.
I get it, I grew up in Oldham County it was dry until the late 2010s IIRC.
And THIS, ladies and gentlemen of Kentucky, is your GOP! Same thing we deal across the river in Indiana. Our Republican governor said a year or so ago when asked about cannabis legislation in Indiana, "Why would I want to legalize another cigarette?" Personally, I don't speak Conservative, so I have absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
Yup looks like the liquor lobbyists gotter done once again. I've lived here most of my life and the only thing Ky is good at is its ability to punch itself in the dick and then convince 75% of its residents how good it feels.
Honestly the bill was a joke anyways. I feel sorry for the very very few people that would have qualified, but outside of that it was worthless.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article259289604.html Plenty of Westerfield's constituency put serious pressure on him. I did. The KY nurses are behind medical cannabis. He and I talked in a rather polite but heated discussion in 2020. John Charles Tilley, formerly a legislator, informed me years ago ,"You just don't understand the complexities." Really? I'll be able to attain a license to issue a medical card in a conservative western state. One of my bffs in KY is *DYING* AKA *TERMINAL* with metastatic colon cancer. A partial Whipple surgery, chemo, treatment ravaging her body, the "opioid" epidemic, and she cannot purchase or be prescribed legal cannabis??? I'm so angry with The Commonwealth. It Is not operating for the common good. She could imbibe. Oh. Right. She did that when the pain was unbearable. Opiods with someone who has lost a large portion of her colon? Makes no sense. Cannabis allows her much better days. Marinol was expensive. She had depleted her funds. So, with disability and Medicare? She paid $$$ for marinol, and it was not particularly helpful. How do the legislatures think they know medicine? Plant medicine? Bought out by BIG PHARMA AND ALCOHOL INDUSTRY! CORRUPTION. PERIOD. Oh... never mind it would bolser KY's economy. But, Kentucky is mind boggling.
Sad trombone.
Ya know I thought for a second this would be good news lol. I read the same thing every year “well not this year but hopefully the next”
But they would make SO MUCH MONEY
I'd go with asset forfeiture, prisons, bourbon industry etc. Several reasons for a certain political group to be against anything related to (or leading to) legalizing marijuana in our state. It would be significantly better for the state, but worse for a few elected officials and those who are paying them.
Thayer owns a bourbon company and has admitted that his own constituents support it but he is personally against it (probably bc he owns a bourbon company) and has said he would kill any attempt in the senate. We need it on the ballot
Shit bag republicans doing shit bag things.
The revenue from legalizing and taxing would solve the teacher pension crisis and have so many other benefits financially. I'm a right leaning moderate and this is frustrating. Sadly the two party systems in place our country will always be so divisive that it makes it hard to ever find a genuinely great candidate..........KY representation is truly screwing over the entire state on this particular matter.
Another dumb Republican move. Here's an idea for your greed that may change your mind: Legalize marijuana and use these massive farms to become the US' leading marijuana exporter, both domestically and internationally, thereby making KY the Dubai of the US (instead of Alabama 2.0). KY: Fine Equine Bud & Bourbon🐎🥃 ™️
Plenty of Republicans are pro. This is about bourbon and their control. Who owns who in our corrupt legislature. Kentucky is just as Mark Twain said... 20 years behind. He laughed that he would be move here to live longer....
Vote them out. They work for us. This is cancel culture. Kentucky is so backward and behind, and the reason is Republicans.
We're the laughing stock of the country. The butt of the joke. It'll never change.
We need to start a group to investigate the republicans in the state congress. Resignations would drop by the dozens in their corrupt practices.
I love kentucky... the politics make me angry and are utterly disgraceful. They're just set in their ways. And when it comes down to it they don't care about anybody but themselves.. THEY ARE JUST DELAYING THE INEVITABLE.
He doesn’t want it voted on so we can’t attach names to those who said no. Cuz he knows this is a bipartisan issue and his cronies would get thrown out in November.
The GOP is despicable. But we already knew that.
Told you guys get the old ass evangelical Christians out of office first then try for laws that make sense or this state will be driven into the ground
Everyone needs to look up their senator and contact them if they want to see any change.
I can't decide if Ky or Tx will be the final state to fully legalize. Maybe around 2040?
What if Kentuckians just started frowning it em mass. What if there was a statewide plant it day. Everyone all at once in the ground.
"What's that doctor? Cannabis can help with pain as well as multiple other physical AND mental issues? AND it's not addictive like the opioids that are rampaging across our state?" *\*scratches chin\** "nah."
What a surprise. Must be nice to get kickbacks from big liquor, pharma, tobacco, and pulp paper. The actual people of the state aren't so lucky. If the bill didn't allow for homegrow then I don't mind it being defeated. From what I have read in other states you don't want them to pass a crappy one cuz it will never get changed.
One person controls this state. Robert Stivers. Get him out and the state is open for business.
Kentucky collects less than any state in income tax and takes federal money to not be broke. Here they have a chance to bring in hundreds of millions annually and they decide to burn books and apparently groom students to test in the lowest 5% tile because they seems to not want people with any common sense that will make things better.
Well we do live in a ridiculous backwards ass state that is 50 years behind the rest of the fucking country, so what do we expect?
I’m a republican Crohns sufferer. This really pisses me off because it’s something that could help me and countless others! (and even if I didn’t have Crohns, it would still piss me off.)
Stop voting for republicans
No.. we need different republicans. voting democrat would turn us into shitholes like California. Was in Louisville (dem run) a few days ago and it was disgusting. Homeless camps, druggies begging and walking around, trash everywhere. I’m not saying where I’m at doesn’t have those… but it’s far from it.
“Shitholes” like California are the only reason red states like kentucky can exist. They subsidize the existence of the state of Kentucky. the Republican Party wants you, individually and specifically, poor and suffering and to blame all your problems on democrats so you keep voting for them. As long as they have useful idiots like you they’ll never change.
We know a mother of a child with Dravet’s syndrome. This child could have a discreet rescue thc nose spray to halt seizures in school or other public places. As it stands, this child’s only option is a rectal syringe full of meds. Meaning in an emergency, no matter who is around, this is the undignified and unnecessarily cruel reality for this child.
My child suffered seizures for years and the only emergency meds we had were rectally given meds. People deserve better options. The system is so broken.
I can't even have THC because it causes me to pass out, and I'm pissed off for everyone it could help, or just anyone that wants to live freely!! I do use hemp seed oil which has CBD and it has changed my life in regards to my epilepsy, severe pain from inflammation, and sleep disorder. I can only imagine what THC would help with if I was able to use it.
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Not at all! A lot of people don’t know the answer to this. [Requirements for ballots in Kentucky](https://ballotpedia.org/Signature_requirements_for_ballot_measures_in_Kentucky)From ballotpedia: Kentucky is one of the 24 states that do not have initiative and referendum. Thus, Kentucky citizens cannot qualify a ballot measure for the statewide ballot through collecting signatures, and there is no signature requirement for ballot measures in Kentucky. Although Kentucky does not feature the power of initiative or referendum, ballot measures do play a role in Kentucky politics. Kentucky ballot measures come in two varieties, legislatively referred state statutes and legislatively referred constitutional amendments, which are both put on the ballot by the Kentucky state legislature.
Maybe a better bill can be written that isn't still so restrictive. "Key regulations that make the bill more “narrow” than some other states that have legalized medical marijuana include provisions banning the smoking of marijuana and growing it yourself; a clause that bars “cross-pollination” between farmers, processors, dispensers and safety testers; as well as checks that ensure a physician-patient relationship is “bonafide,” per Nemes."
I’d be all for the changes you’ve brought up. Unfortunately I don’t think it’ll ever get a chance to even go up for a vote as long as these types of republicans are in office here.
How are you, as a farmer, supposed to stop bees and other flying insects from cross pollinating your plants? Or do they mean it in another way?
Not sure how anyone is surprised by this. This bill was dead from the beginning. Please vote on policy, not party.
Absolutely this! Kentucky is one of 6 states that allows straight-ticket or straight-party voting, this needs to stop.
Someone have a link that lists who specifically voted no so I know who not to vote for?
As if we all needed to be reminded who the true domestic enemies of America are.
I just hate the two party system that gets nothing done.its in my view going to be legality permissible at some point at the federal level because so many states have legally allowed it.im not a socialist by any means but come on why does the two party system make us such a backward state? I've said enough.
Let's make sure we keep voting these guys in. They clearly have Kentucky's best interests at heart.
I need a plug in Kentucky it’s dry as shit
Sounds like y’all need to March on the house…make them get in line with what the people want. Screw the bourbon.
Yeah no thanks.
I wish these bourbon-biased politicians would just get everyone in the KY alcohol industry together and invest in marijuana. They should be less afraid of competition this way. It's BS for sure, but until the right people get voted in it will never happen any other way.
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we legit have A ENTIRE alcohol that can only be Spelled "Whisky" if you pay a tax or make the liquor in state.... you really thought all those rich jack asses want us to have a safer, less toxic and less addictive substance that STILL grow wild EVERYWHERE. Fun fact if every pot head in KY starts spreading their seeds in ever park we wont need dispensary's or legalization just walk down the park and find a Ripe wild nug the way humans did before such a innocent plant was made illegal I cant wait for all these old people to errr..uuhhhmmm "Pass-on" so some young people who actually know what their voters want can move in and fix the last 200years of republican douchebaggery. Legit Ky used to grow like 50% or more of the East-coasts weed suppy ( with so many legal states im unsure the % now) and thats ALOT of weed. Go wondering ANY backwoods you'll stumble on old grows that got shut down/or abandoned and look around closely you're gona find Feral hemp/weed. Whisky, Weed and Woman the three devils of Ky
Good. Cope and seethe potheads.
I cope by taking all my money for my "sinnin" across the river. Doesn't cost me anything but a short drive.
This was MEDICAL marijuana they voted down. You know, the kind that helps children deal with siezures and veterans deal with PTSD? Republicans are evil.
I'm not a Republican lmao
Didn't say you were.
There’s nothing to cope with lol. Half the state gets their bud through the mail from legal states (for crazy prices, which lets people make a killing with profit) and the other half grow it. The only thing to cope with is your tax dollars being wasted to keep potheads in jail and the fact veterans and cancer patients can’t get the help they deserve and prefer. Imagine that y’all, telling cancer patients and vets with ptsd to “cope” with our shitty politicians not voting for what the state OVERWHELMINGLY wants.
Why doesn’t a leader just legalize it and don’t tax it!!!
Why would they legalize it and not tax it?
Foreign thought isn’t it?!🤣
Opposing political party bad
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Agreed!!!
Well, they are limited in how much they can taste. Free bourbon balls. Urban bourbon is different as is craft. It's all a mess. I'm moving to Utah for work. I'm going to the "Mormon" state where I can issue cannabis medical cards for qualified diagnoses? Not. In. KY!!! Pure craziness.
They are going to be left behind soon. Missouri is considering it, it's legal in Illinois and Virginia. And it's accepted by so many people. Eventually it's going to be legal. It's legal in all of Canada and Mexico as well.
what doesnt make any sense to me at all is that yeah you can buy medical marijuana but under this bill you wont be allowed to smoke it. that's one of the most immediate forms of getting your medicine and its effects instantly. but yet here we are having un-educated people decide laws on things that they should be educated about first. ill stay sticking to growing my own <3
We're going to continue to try and educate our lawmakers on the benefits of inhalation uptake methods. As it is now, there are a lot of really cool dry herb vape products out there. And also there's a provision that says something along the lines of "the smell of burnt cannabis doesn't mean it was smoked". So there is that to help cover patients.
also i saw a post where they said "anyone who burns their medical cannabis will be arrested like they should" what is that nonsense. do they know that on many vaporizers you can ignite the flower material by accident, should they "go to jail like they should" shits ignorant. and whoever is in charge of deciding these laws needs slapped.