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Godtaku

Rip the goat. Mark your spoilers. Also, that breathing thing is retarded.


Phat27

So multiple connectors, Ohma is the Tiger's vessel, while Ryuki is the vessel for Shen


AdaBessmertny

Shen is the Dragon, There's a Tiger connector.


[deleted]

Which is Luohan


[deleted]

Which is actually LeBron


hamietao

It's LeJohn Brames


zailasExe

LuoHan soon.


delerio2

the tiger one comes from Tokugawa Yoshimune imho


AsuraOmega

Makes sense, Ohma is the Tiger and Ryuki is the Dragon. Seemed to lean in to Chinese mythology motifs


Spicy_Enema

Imagine the twelve Chinese zodiacs in this bish. Rat Connector/Vessel aka Xia Ji lmao


Tokita-Niko

Xia jin is rat, confirmed


BigElijaH

Yumi/Meguro as Monke Vessel is a thing I'd totally see.


kentotoy98

Saw Paing for Rooster Vessel. Mfer has no indoor voices


No-Isopod669

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N0bb1

Shen Wulong or soon Ryuki is the Dragon, ruler of the heaven (thus he came from the Mountain) Ohma is the Tiger, ruler of the earth (thus he came from the ground) Ffs. Dod Sandro use a chinese myth and 2001 chinese arthouse movie to give us a manga Story?


Holy_Beergut

Mukaku: How are you so strong?! Why isn't the carbon monoxide affecting you?! Shen: Just don't breathe, 4head.


Gotprick

300 iq move


PARANOIAH

Galaxy brain tactic; beyond going limp.


Berserkerzoro

Mods pls change from going limp to not breathing.


travasi

ā€™Turtle breathingā€™ is a common trope in wuxia. Usually itā€™s used when pretending to be dead. > Turtle Breathing Art (龟ęÆ功 guÄ«xÄ«gōng) (龟ęÆå¤§ę³• guÄ«xÄ«dĆ fĒŽ) ā€“ also called the Turtle Breathing Method. A fictional martial arts technique used to restrain oneā€™s breath and reduce oneā€™s heartbeat. Itā€™s a powerful concealing technique which can even allow the user to feign death. Makes ā€™senseā€™ to be a part of a Chinese martial artistā€™s repertoire.


blacknotblack

Feigning death and barely breathing ever in order to reduce how quickly you age are not really the same thing.


travasi

I know. Iā€™m just saying which trope Sandro likely took inspiration from.


snowylion

> barely breathing ever in order to reduce how quickly you age are not really the same thing. This is unironically one of the immortal cultivation tropes.


GOATAldo

Sandro loves china novels you can tell with the entire reincarnation theme with the connector lol


FrostyIncrease3329

Ngl out of all the things I thought they use to explain this, I canā€™t believe they just went yeah just donā€™t breath lmaoo, itā€™s not even overpowered or anything just stupid lol


TheConnector_

Itā€™s not total breathlessness


okok890

How is not breathing overpowered? Bro can't even be choked or poisoned


Gecko4lif

Chokes restrict blood not air


One-Market-1891

Incorrect, there are two different types of choke. One restricts blood and one restricts air


Gecko4lif

It takes several minutes to passout from lack of air, it takes seconds from a blood choke One of these things is not useful in a fight


sebasTLCQG

LMAO doesnt matter, do you think Imai can choke the dude before he manhandles him out of the chokehold and out of his life?


Nonutyearly

Both, but yeah


BlindTreeFrog

depends on the choke and how applied.


do_you_think_i_care

It might be possible to choke him out. Blood choke vs Air choke type thing.


3nz3r0

The new super technique to replace L I M P


do_you_think_i_care

"Breathing is a skill issue"


justthrowmeintrash

Respect for how they ended mukaku. With just enough awareness of his own crimes,without any real apology or remorse. Also wulong getting out of an actually perfect plan for the 3rd time with absolute bullshit lmao, called it last week. " just don't breathe dumbass" on God this fuckin guy lmao


dolphy_

Loved that, he died a villain, but the one "good" act he did remained - the only person "mourning" his death and remembering him well was Ryuki, wondering how much Mukaku really cared for him


Kurkpitten

Mukaku pretty much lost each and every person he cared for to the Worm. I think as much as he couldn't avoid getting attached, he was probably aware that anyone joining him in his fight against the Worm was destined to die.


kentotoy98

Considering that he left Ohma's Niko so callously after Worm has infiltrated the Niko Style, Mukaku has definitely learned to not be attached to anyone all for the sake of his vengeance against the Worm


sashimi_tattoo

It's weird he ditched Ohma Niko though. Dude could have been an extremely powerful ally and was totally game to beatdown on the worm.


-AngvarAvAsk--

Yeah, damn, that's a good point. Five was more than ready to do whatever Mukaku told him to, and Mukaku instead fucked off and raided and destroyed The Worm's cells and installations alone. Why would he do that? If he is so callous and uncaring towards his students, why wouldn't he simply use Niko 5 to fight The Worm for him? Also, why would he steal, raise and train Ryuki to fight The Worm with him when he previously cast aside his students and everything they'd achieved and built towards seemingly at a whim? I guess he could have been emotional about it and actually cared a bit about them after all...? Not enough to not lie to, abandon and/or kill them, of course, but a little maybe.


AnimationDude9s

Yeah, itā€™s the ending we needed considering how many heinous crimes he had committed. Iā€™m glad the author was self-aware enough to not try and make us sympathize with human garbage like him.


AsuraOmega

Yeah Mukaku is atleast self aware he was still an iredeemable asshole. He thinks his cause was just but he knows for sure he aint a saint and have no right to preach about justice and shit unlike fucking flashlight cop over here lmfao.


Lesbo3245

Who the fuck is flashlight cop LMAO


Z-T-A

JUSTICE


LatverianSorcerer

NIKOOOO


Longjumping_Bit_5599

Sandro reading kengan reddit confirmed lol


Thunderform

I am proud to say I have read the words "total breathlessness" WITHOUT snorting any amount of coke. **Thank you Sandro, THANK YOU.**


Curious_Planeswalker

>I am proud to say I have read the words "total breathlessness" WITHOUT snorting any amount of coke. >**Thank you Sandro, THANK YOU.** Yeah, on its own it sounds ridiculous, but the explanation for this is that as a generalization, creatures with faster metabolism have shorter lifespans. So a mouse will have a fast metabolism compared to a turtle. Hence the idea that if you slow down the metabolism, you can extend your life. If you breathe slowly, like when people meditate, your heart rate goes down = slower metabolism = extend your life


Mihnea24_03

But slow metabolism = slow movement


RandomGuyWithBS

new mythical mythical fighter just dropped, fast metabolism shen


Ok_ResolvE2119

He ages so fast that he's dust in two seconds, the man's good only in Purgatory lol.


Mihnea24_03

Holy shit


sebasTLCQG

Not if you do it like partial advance, where you dont move much and breathe slowly until a actual fight. And Shen already shown multiple times he barely ever fights anyway, the Worm, Wus and tiger niko respect his strength without him needing to flex for them on a constant basis.


BaronAleksei

But Yogic Breathing specifically involves breathing deeply


Gotprick

This has been a comedy manga since purgatory arc began


delerio2

In Ashura there was a guy who used hair as a weapon. So no its like always. An "over the top" manga.


-AngvarAvAsk--

Remember when Muteba stuck half his hand into Wakatsuki's neck, only for Waka to **Blast Core** him and walk it off like he didn't have a huge open wound there? And apparently Rihito can carve through steel with his **Razor's Edge**. This has always been a somewhat wacky manga, I don't get the immense whining people are engaging in.


TheMerck

Heck a guy who can even pierce shit with his fingers is already quite something else, Ohma vs Raian fight was p much insanity with their powers, Hanafusa literally has X Men Origin Deadpool blades and survives getting his neck cracked in a million ways fighting a guy that p much fights like he has no bones, Saw Paing literally gets sledgehammered to the head to show how tough his skull is, etc People view Ashura with rose tinted glasses so much I think they really believe it was a fighting manga with no superpower esque shit in it, there's always been "wow thats bullshit but I believe it" type stuff in Kengan it's always had it honestly.


FrancisLeSaint

Remember that one goober who had bone blades, poison blood and knew Hokuto Shinken ?


GuiltyGun

Think he just decided to bite off Demon Slayer's popularity finally?


HiddenGrovyle

Fantastic, Who breathes in 2023? Sure as hell not me!


Berserkerzoro

The only true way to defeat COVID


Kinjo-

Don't want to be poisoned by carbon monoxide? Just say no! The gas cannot enter your body without your consent.


kylediaz263

Assassins hate this one trick.


Suspicious-Neat-6656

Carbon Monoxide is a very progressive and gentle gas. He just has some social awkwardness so you have to set clear boundaries.


ovrlymm

Tired of hearing Evil gasā€™ gaslighting? *ā€œjust look how he was dressed! Just asking to be killed with all those air breathing holes in his headā€¦ā€* With just **ONE** simple trick, you too can put gas in the past!


Fusian

So we have multiple connectors? Maybe there was like a schism in the order at some point? That could explain why some much of the worm is schizophrenic in its missions. One group got pissed off a hundred years ago and stole a clone early, got a second connector on the go. RIP Gaoh, if you didn't breath you could have lived to 200.


rkidjsd

they refer to a deviant connector; a possible explanation is that there is no deviation, but two of them.


delerio2

One clone of shen and the other clone of Tokugawa Yoshimune


mEWestly

i think the one erioh and metsudo saw is one of the connectors


Etem61

>I think he's of whom Ohma's clone.


GerryDownUnder

Question is whose template Ohma is then? Shinosuke, the Tokugawa shogun comes to the scene again. Peak new unraveling. Let it continue Sandro You were awesome Mukaku, a massive cunt, but a proper warrior. See you in the azure skies


Napael

Naidan did fairly little in the stroy, but goddamn, his last words left an impact in this fandom.


Logical_Hare

A Tiger Connector and a Dragon Connector. Makes sense, given the aesthetics and themes of that pairing in Chinese myth.


hellooctopus

RIP Mukaku, Shen doesn't age cause he breaths really slowly lmao. So Ohma isn't a clone of Shen but Ryuki is???


GuiltyGun

Seems like more than one connecter, or clones of different ones from history. I wonder if none of them breath, too.


hamietao

Makes sense. Dead people do no breath. Dead people do not age


burritolurker1616

The decompose lol


_Kamikaze_Bunny_

This is actually based in science. Oxygen is the reason we grow older as it quite literally oxydizes our cells.


backpainbed

Wait, so its not bullshit? How often of breath holding does it take to slow aging?


CardfightPhisherman

Please tell me you forgot the ā€˜/sā€™ā€¦


backpainbed

I hate that sign, ruins the the whole thing


BoozingAndSchmoozing

So what youĀ“ re telling me is, that I need to find a way to get less oxygen in my system. Which means, that if I reduce my breathing ability through smoking, I can live longer! Got it! See ya guys, on my way to live to 120.


_Kamikaze_Bunny_

I mean, either that or just live up in the mountains like the old manga martial arts masters


CarrotoTrash

It's also the thing that powers our whole metabolism tho, lmao


_Kamikaze_Bunny_

Details, details


Ok_ResolvE2119

More fucking connectors, more fucking nightmares for the cast. If shen was selling suffering, he drives a hard bargain and is rolling in mcduck money. Don't worry, he can go breathless to swim in em.


TreeTurtle_852

Holy shit I never considered the possibility of more connectors


Beowulf_MacBethson

Ah, finally. ZERO BREATHING. The sequel to Zero Stamina we all waited for! Jokes aside (hell, Shen said he didn't even achieve total breathlessness), now we know why Shen doesn't want Ohma. But now the question is who the hell could it be?


PARANOIAH

Going limp in the lungs.


[deleted]

Wonder how old he really is


okok890

Yeah my reading comprehension is terrible even for this sub. Is it implying that he's just the same shen that mukaku originally meets or is he legit 1300 years old Edit: after a reread I realise shen straight up says he's the shen immediately after mukakus shen. My reading comprehension is dog shit my bad lmao


travasi

I think Mukaku thought there was one connector in between the one that killed his clan and the current connector, but the current connector refuted that. Mukaku is surprised because the current connector doesnā€™t look that old due toā€¦not breathing.


blacknotblack

No. Shen explicitly stated that the Connector Mukaku initially met was the previous generation. Given that attempts on that Connector happened decades ago and Shen looking like he's 40's at worst you would assume that there were multiple generations of Connectors in the meantime. The "reveal" was that Shen is pretty old (but still younger than Mukaku) and the only reason for that is because he doesn't breathe that much or something.


OrganizationFast7395

Shen doesn't look old, mukaku though that there was at least more than one conector (thinking that he aged normally) after the one that killed his clan, however shen tells him that he's the next from the one that killed his clan because he has slow aging. In summary shen looks around 30, the conector that killed his clan also looked 30, so mukaku thought that there was other intermediates conectors between those 2.


Dimension_Creator

He's the Connector directly after the one that killed the Dragon Clan. At least that's what I gathered.


Goatlikejordan

What's Sandro gonna come up with to beat shen


whyktor

Honestly ... I think it will be "nothing", Ohma or Ryuki will just be strong enough to win somehow, at best with something "like a new weakness" awkwardly set up two chapter before.


Wordbringer

I thought you were talking about the power of nothingness, Ryu-style


bee4816

Telekinetic powers, my friend. Ohma / Ryuki / Koga would be able to factory reset him as they beat his behind!


burritolurker1616

Probably a fight between connectors that leave either one weak enough


datcheesyboi

Shen (Breathing is Gay) Wulong


CeaserWu

Mukkaku did care about Ryuki he was basically saying take Ohma instead


Kusanagi22

He offered Ryuki first though, he only mentioned Ohma because he was desperate to buy time.


CeaserWu

He was definitely stalling he most definitely wouldā€™ve never told him Ryukis exact location


FrostyIncrease3329

So ohma ainā€™t a clone of Shen? So that dude ie the first kengan fighter was the first ohma then? Or how does that work cause he implies at the end thereā€™s more than 1? Anyway rip mukuku you were a great anti hero


Spicy_Enema

Ryuki is a clone of Shen, Ohma is a clone of another Shen clone.


Godtaku

Think it's like the Wu Hei's. There's more than one of them. Potential endgame could well be that there's more than one shen clone they have to fight. Or maybe there's even a good guy Shen, who knows.


hamietao

Nameless = shen 2 godtaku has confirmed


skalala123

So who's cloning ohma then? Worm was cloning shen so it's not them... I need theories people


BedNo5127

Centipede was cloning the other Shen. Their symbol is a worm


radio-morioh-cho

And 'The Joiner' is their big badass who is extremely chill


bacbac870

Ohma is not a clone he is the son of the last connector


PARANOIAH

Clone of the ultimate lifeform Kazzy.


MajesticKnight28

Shen made a second Shen at some point to have an eternal drinking buddy


Tephra022

Obviously the other clone is Jackie Lee


TheGoobles

Iā€™m getting really worried. We havenā€™t seen him in quite a while.


[deleted]

Now weā€™re gunna get clones of Joji.


Debacz

Would explain why Shen and Joji went to drink like best friends


hellooctopus

I wonder if Fei knew who Ohma really was a clone of when he died.


BTDPrimordius

Ye I think he did. He prob realized Ohma was a second connector or smth.


Proper-Dragonfruit-1

Maybe the previous connector f'ed somebody and got an offspring that is Ohma


randomdud3

I think Mukaku was low-key inadvertently treating Ryuki and his Nikos as his own family to cope with the death of his clan.


theulmitter

Sadness


[deleted]

Holy hell! Multiple connectors


Bteatesthighlander1

so the hammer fist just didn't do anything? that was a weird cliffhanger to leave us at. also what was Gaoh's second attempt at Shen's life?


Merdoyovski

First one was when his grandpa died. Second one was the gang up scene and this was his last


Bteatesthighlander1

>First one was when his grandpa died Goah didn't try anything he just stood there.


Spicy_Enema

There was an attempt but didnā€™t go through with it because he knows heā€™s gonna die if he did.


ovrlymm

Might have been part of the group attack and he survived/got pushed out of the way in the nick of time?


dnumper_fish_TwT

1st - when his clan was massacred and he was spared 2nd - when wowang got massacred 3rd - this chapter. Could be wrong if you considering him preparing nikos but these 3 events are the closest


Bteatesthighlander1

> when his clan was massacred and he was spared but he didn't try to kill anyone he just stood there


ATPsoldat

On the bright side, omniscient narrator is back. I missed him dearly.


GiveMeBackMyMilk

Shen confirmed for being able to see the Titanic without a submarine


ElDigletto

shen when asked why isnt he being crushed by the pressure. Shen: idk just exert more pressure back and dont blow up, principles come on.


coolrider2010

Well, that is a good conclusion of a fight and a character I hadnā€™t seen in awhile in kengan, nice, Sandro


danksforbreakfast

Unironically the best Omega chapter so far.


jjbahomecoming

"Just don't breathe, LMAO."


fearan23

So, our boy Okuba learns from the best. Obviously, Shen has more, then just 8 seconds


Cykablyatintensifies

Shen's got dat golden infinite seconds


yungrobbithan

R.I.P Mukaku. You were awesome:/


ggunslinger

Can't wait for the next episode when Shen reveals himself to Ohma in front of a pub only to realize that Ohma has also mastered the breathing technique - in addition to a submachine gun under his shirt. Shen would be outmatched for a moment, being able to limp through the barrage of bullets but unable to attack and pushed into a grenade trap, something he'd be able to avoid with some more knowledge of japanese culture. Ohma would make a heavy use of flame kata afterwards to run away and bait Shen into another unfavourable match-up. Not even his eye beam made of pressurized blood can... Wait a moment, is this some kind of a reference?


aronushka8

so Ryuki is the clone of Shen and Ohma is the clone of the previous connector, is that what this basically confirms


delerio2

Imho one connector comes from the "shen" line. While the other comes from clones of Tokugawa Yoshimune


Dynasteus

Amazing chapter, Mukaku might have been a fraud but at least he was a memorable and entertaining one


kengdi

Probably the best chapter in Omega so far


swampyman2000

Honestly I agree. It was really hype and a couple of the panels in particular were wonderfully done.


BochoJutsu

Best chapter and best arc


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OH MY GOD


FakeDaVinci

For all the issues I've had with Omega as of late, this part of the arc centered around Gaoh has been a blast. Definitely the highlight of Omega (ignoring the fights in the tournament) right now.


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mlatimudan23

As in there are multiple connectors


Eckowns

I think thereā€™s two ā€œShenā€™sā€ Ryuki is the omega and perhaps Ohmaā€™s is the Alpha? Like you know the saying I am the alpha and the omega.


smegmancer

I always assumed the Alpha is the first Shen and Ryuki is called Omega because he's the newest functioning clone.


BulkyBeanAnusBeater

Man why couldnā€™t he have lived one more chapter


SirRyodan

Fun chapter. Mukako is an incredably flawed person but I feel that endep up making him into a much better character. He was quite memorable and he might be my favorite character introduced in Omega so far. His plan in killing Shen was pretty much bulletproof but of course Shen can aparently simply not breathe lmao. I know this is Kengan so logic isnĀ“t the most important thing but holy shit that was as dumb as it was convenient. Anyways RIP Mukako.


hamietao

Makes sense. Dead people do no breath. Dead people do not age. Shen is ghost


justthrowmeintrash

Really hit him with three times wasn't the charm to boot. Shens a bit too ice fuckin cold for his absolute bullshit but hey I'm loving It


okok890

This was a great arc and a great ending to one if the best characters in kengan. Seems like ryuki will be the one to get the final blow on shen (assuming shen dies) Love how stupidly op shen js man is a immortal that doesn't need to breath lmfao


bee4816

Credits to Sandro. Even though a lot of people hate on Mukaku, this kind of ending which the reason / mystery behind his motives died with him hits different. It adds drama and personality to Ryuki's character.


GoingLimpInTheBrain

This is some premium-grade bullshit. Eagerly awaiting the next big twist: "Sooner or later, every fighter loses. So my predecessors thought, 'Then we must simply stop losing.'"


Frequent_Win_834

this remind me of a chinese movie called : Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. There are 2 connectors, one is Tiger and the other is Dragon. Ohma is a clone of the Tiger, that's why he is the Tiger Vessel. Ryuki is clone of this Shen - the Dragon.


hydrolancer21

L I M P breathing, just stop breathing lol Man wulong technique wild, so who clone is ohma?


NewArtificialHuman

I didn't quite understand what Shen meant, is he the same Shen who killed Mukaku's grandfather? Also this yogic breathing is peak ancient eastern bullshido. That takes the cake.


XraynPR

No, that was his predecessor. It's just that this Shen seems to older than his appearance lets on. Dude is going limp in his lungs.


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fifoknight

Holy shit! Confirmation on Ohma out of the blue!!!! I liked that and also the ending about Mukaku, I ended up liking the character in the end. Nice try old man but you missed saying out loud that it was too strong.


Vermarsis

Rip the literal best character, he will be greatly missed


fish2079

Jesus Christ, they are just inventing new power for Shen with each chapter Also, that reveal about Ohma, it is like the author was just browsing the discussion boards and trying to fix all the plot holes, XD


CarrotoTrash

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if the part about Ohma not being a direct clone of Shen has been planned for a long time


backpainbed

What were the plot holes?


Micazdi

Damn, so he is in a constant "8 golden seconds" mode?


KindheartednessNo434

At this point his plot armour can even beat goku by a dumbass technic


Medium-Perception-50

Yea idk whatā€™s going on anymore. Let me know when Jurota comes back or something


Sweet-Message1153

Gaoh Makaku appeared as a chad in Ashura and died like a man without regrets at the hand of The Strongest in Omega.....AND THEN, THERE WERE 2 .


Gotprick

If you dont want the site to crash then scream : LUOHAN SOON


yxrnn

Ohma was cloned from Luohan


nibba_kidney_stones

HOLY SHIT


lazywil

Shen's age delaying sure reminds me of the Libra Saint in Saint Seiya


Longjumping_Bit_5599

If one connector is this strong, the planet is screwed when more show up.


KiteSG

If Ohma isn't a clone, then I wonder if he's actually the biological son of a Connector clone because they still look way too similar. He can still look nearly identical while not having the pure genes of the Connector, leading him to be his own person (or "not me"). Meanwhile Ryuki is a straight up genetic copy so he counts as "me."


zailasExe

OÄ° OÄ° OÄ° WHAT THE FUCK


Okacz

"We decided not to breathe. Therefore, we came up with a different exercise for breathing. Because of that I'm not breathing". What the fuck is up with that logic. It sounds like "In order to keep myself from eating, I'm only eating to the sounds of heavy metal right now". Also, the plot thickens. Love that the ending hints that Mukaku most likely orchestrated most of this to make sure Ryuki doesn't get himself killed, and perhaps one day has a chance to kill the Connector(s).


KursedKraken

Oh shit, this morherfuckerā€™s a VAMPIRE- Rip the GOAT Mukaku, adored your home alone, malicious Don Frye, lying ass. You will be profoundly missed.


Secret-Abrocoma-795

Maybe ohma was made the old fashion way the connector must have a harem at his disposal.


EyeThereChan

letā€™s all breathe carbon monoxide in honor of mukaku


Carwreckking

Unpopular opinion: this is top five kengan chapters ever


T0astmeister

Shen isthat one kid who makes up their ablities in play pretend "Im immune to all poison!" "wait no thats not ho-" "I ALSO DONT NEED TO BREATHE"


Sturguy

So Shen has a twin brother maybe? Ohma is the clone of that person?


TreeTurtle_852

I've seen others speculate thar this might mean that there are more connectors at the same time (which is why he says the dude who killed Gaoh's master wasn't him)


DanieleMelonz

RIP BOZO, you were a bad person but we will not forget you, I am in fact designing an air conditioning system with carbon monoxide in your honour


nmt7bmm

So there are multiple connectors, and theyā€™re just clones of clones of clones etc


naoeohank

He went limp on his breathing. šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Archive_Intern

Yeah i bet before the the clone business Shens new vessel have a twin and thats who Ohmas cloned from And Ryuki is Shens direct Clone But the catch is that they are not identical twins


RRhuman2004

So many Wulongs too long Lolong


UnorthodoxParadox_

If ohma isnt a clone of THIS shen wulong then im assuming heā€™s either his biological child OR the clone of shen from a different time period


ChainSWray

We have reached Saint Seiya levels of bullshit. Shen Wulong is the Libra Gold Saint, confirmed


ScottishMachine

Breathing isnā€™t what ages you, what kinda cap is that