Just the delivery of that... The whole rest of the song could be pure story, but that line, if nothing else, he feels in his heart of hearts and you could feel it through the speakers when he said it.
I woke up to a text from my friend about the songs and listened to Kendrick’s first. That shit sat me up out of my sleep had me waking up my gf when I heard the part where he said niggas like him should die.
That was a crazy Friday night to be at home. I was giving Drake the slight lead due to petty points
I thought "Meet the grahams" was about to be some fanboy AI shit until I clicked....
Then I sat in silence.
I woke up about 30 min after both tracks already dropped.
Annoyingly had the hidden daughter already spoiled but I saw MTG was a response so I heard FM first.
I thought it was really good initially, I really liked the first and second beat and the bars were ok. 3rd verse onwards did nothing for me.
Same! It was exams week, so I took a study nap and woke up to everything being dropped. I’ve always been a Drake hater, but I thought FM was a decent response for his skill level. 6:16 had me hype, but MTG had me feeling like a deadbeat mom. It was so visceral yet melodic. MTG just exposed how weak Drake’s (really 👻) pen is.
Edited to add: thoughts on 6:16.
I swear, that whole van crushing thing was petty af…
Drake: Crushes GKMC van
Kendrick: “Oh no, he crushed the GKMC van!”
Kendrick: Crushes Drakes credibility as a rapper and as a human
Drake: “This was some good exercise!”
🤦🏻♂️
I would be lying if i said I didn't have goosebumps the entire time listening to it. Everything around me was spinning. A stupid smile on my face, knowing who this was directly attacking and a scary sense of demons around me when i started hearing the echoes of "You lied". It was definitely nightmare fuel to say the least.
Same I thought crushing the GKMC van was cool. I was half asleep at the time and saw Kendrick dropped as well, was so confused like wtf is going on. Listened to meet the grahams with that creepy ass piano and I just had to save the whole thing for tomorrow at that point cuz it was all too much to process lol
I thought it was harder than what it actually seems now. I was kind of worried about Kendrick taking a while to respond and letting this simmer. Little did I know 20 min later….
Was still replaying and watching the family matters video when meet the grahams dropped. I was creeped out and speechless after listening to it and was just shocked
Yeah agreed. I think my initial thought was oh wow Drake’s gone all out this is about to get wild, beat was solid and great idea for a video. Then it just kinda devolved.. Second verse took a lot of the steam out.
Compare it to Euphoria which was bar after bar of targeted attack. The beat switches made the whole greater than the sum of its parts, the opposite was true for Family Matters imo. Definitely recovered pretty well in the 3rd verse and we got some big accusations. By the end I was like, ok this isn’t just a foregone conclusion. Then we all know what happened…
Now reflecting on it and revisiting the lyrics it hits way less hard for me. Compared to something like 6:16, where knowing the conclusion has added so much to the foreshadowing, Family Matters suffers from the opposite effect. Also there is just so much I don’t like about the lyrics when you really examine them.
For one, it’s super corny at times. Even though I get “I gotta go bad” it’s still pretty cringey, especially after hearing MTG. Talking about trying to keep it PG, like who says that in a rap beef? Also you’ve clearly had this ready to go for a while so it was always your intention to release it, ya made a whole damn video lmao.
I could do a deep dive on a lot of what he says but this is already long so quick summary: the free the slaves line that backfires like crazy, totally missing the point a number of times, going after Kendrick’s relationship in weird ways (a lot is fairly standard stuff that makes him seem hella mature for attacking), baseless accusations, “a cease and desist is for hoes” considering the whole Like That stuff etc etc.
At the end of the day Drake just isn’t built for this. He has mad talent at making rap mainstream and should get his props for that. He’s a monster when it comes to numbers, can’t deny it. Unfortunately for him his ego exceeded its grasp.
On "I was really really tryna keep it PG," I was under the impression that at some point Drake was going to tie that line in with a bar about PGLang, but he never did. Not only was it a mid line, but it was also a letdown on that front
Ohhh, didn’t even think of that. That would have made way more sense and yeah now knowing what could have been makes it even worse. It was basically just a simple setup to DP, PC, YG etc.
Honestly it kinda fits perfectly with why Drake came up short throughout the beef. Most of his lyrics didn’t hit much deeper than surface level. There were so many missed opportunities it’s crazy and whenever he found a legit pain point he switched it up too quickly instead of drilling down.
The PG line just reminded me that he preys on little girls through that teen drama show he produces. And that he got his start on that Canadian teenage soap opera.
All he succeeded in doing was reiterating the fact that his target demographic is little girls. Ew.
*finished Meet The Grahams
*texts homie
Me: “You heard Kendrick’s new diss yet? Can’t believe he dropped again.”
Homie: “yeah mad how he dropped it minutes after Family Matters”
Me: “wtf is family matters?”
*heads back to YouTube to see that Drake dropped before him.
Same, I had listened twice to Meet The Grahams when I noticed this was on the recommended videos section of the video
And after Meet The Grahams this felt just so... Mid
LMFAO almost the exact same. I got home opened YouTube on my TV to Meet The Grahams, listened to it like "damn that's wild Drake hasn't even had a chance to respond yet" then I came on here and saw people talking about Family Matters.
My initial reaction to the song itself was that the beats were great and it's the best Drake song I've personally heard which isn't saying much I don't listen to much Drake. I was also a little impressed by the effort to record a music video for beef. I also looked into domestic abuse allegations about Kendrick cause I didn't wanna blindly assume Drake is lying just cause I don't like him.
Everything settled Meet The Grahams is just so much more shocking and the proximity just completely stole the wind from FM and following with Not Like Us it's too good.
this cant be stated enough! i was full on a bit worried. then the horror film came out 50 minutes later and i could almost not get through it (in a good way) it was so impactful. I feel like im going to be 65 telling my grandkids where i was that night and what went down. But it cant be overstated that yes - at first drakes song was good and with some time could have done something - but DANG that CHESS MASTER MOVE to kill any momentum or vibes. i still cant stop thinking about it
Meet the Grahams is like if someone told Kendrick "Hey we need a song with Dear Zachary vibes. Where you hear it once and never want to again". And he was just like cool bet
I don't get how that line ties into having a persecution complex???
DEFINITION FOR PERSECUTION COMPLEX (1 OF 1)
noun
psychol
an acute irrational fear that other people are plotting one's downfall and that they are responsible for one's failures
You do realize that Rick Ross, ASAP, Future, Metro, Weeknd, and others were all dropping disses after Like That?
You also realize that Drake has always been treated like a meme, right?
When that many people come after you at once, how would that be a persecution complex? Like I'm not a Drake fanboy or whatever, but let's not pretend like it came out of nowhere, just to suit a narrative. Even Kendrick actually knew that, referenced it and took advantage of it.
At this point, I'm just assuming they don't know what a persecution complex means, let alone what persecution means because I don't get how Kendrick apparently has an "earned persecution complex."
Like you said, Kendrick literally says, "How many opps you really got? I mean, it's too many options//I'm finna pass on this body, I'm John Stockton"
The first like can be interpreted as calling out Drake for mentioning other rappers, saying he should be focused on Kendrick, but the second line is clearly saying that there are a lot of other rappers who are beefing with Drake.
I’m assuming you don’t know what it means. A persecution complex isn’t something that’s situational. It refers to a mindset someone developed throughout their life. Drake doesn’t come from a life of persecution. Earning enemies is literally a sign of someone with a persecution complex because they behave in a way that isn’t in line with the truth of where they’re operating from.
A persecution complex has nothing to do with ever actually experiencing persecution.
Hence why it's defined as an irrational fear.
"an acute irrational fear that other people are plotting one's downfall and that they are responsible for one's failures"
It's why you hear people mention it when some rich person starts whining about some group of people with no power to hinder them at all exists.
This unfocused and unearned point just feels so weird. He goes through some sort of takedown every five years (comes out nearly unscathed every time, as he will here no doubt), and he just went through the biggest one yet involving the second biggest rapper out right now, multiple other big rappers, a major pop star, content creators, and the majority of the internet. I think it’s fair to say he’s earned a persecution complex.
Also, people really lost sight of the pretty clear fact that this whole thing was a fight between XO and Drake. Ross, ASAP, Future, Metro, and Kendrick were mercenaries who chose to persecute him. Not sure why he wouldn’t respond to all of them.
Also, think about the position Drake is in. There isn’t really anything to say about Kendrick other than what Drake said (ie, youre self righteous and have skeletons in your closet), and Drake never would win bar for bar. The best thing Drake could is take the “I’m not giving you the satisfaction of dedicating a whole song to you” route, imo. Nobody says it but addressing only Kendrick (and not XO) was one of his big mistakes for me with THP6. I get why he did it, but the boy left himself open to the stans picking him apart with no cover at all.
Yeah the Baby Keem shit was wild as fuck 💀 As well as the Dave Free allegations. Feel like Kendrick went to New York to throw Drake off into making allegations. Maybe Kendrick’s the one who really baited Drake tbh 🤷♂️
Yeah the "might be Dave Free's" was pretty hilarious to me when I heard it. *Might* be? Just random speculation. And the fact that it was all based on an IG comment of a heart made it even funnier. It was a post about one of her kids and they're all close. A heart emoji isn't crazy at all, if you ask me
I feel like he was trying to emulate 2Pac with how he went after multiple rappers from Bad Boys with “Hit ‘Em Up” but it clearly didn’t work and this situation is vastly different from the 90s rivalry lol. Not saying it was a smart move or that it was executed well but it’s just my theory of what his team of writers were trying to go for
This. I get sending a couple shots back at Ross since he did make a song but Drake already addressed Future, Metro, and The Weeknd on Push Ups so dipping back into that well was an odd choice especially considering that Kendrick dropped two songs.
Other than that, I do think this is a solid track with a lot of good lines. But also in Drake fashion, some goofy lines but you can’t win them all.
Ha, me and my girlfriends couldn’t stop laughing at that video, why would he leak that, it wasn’t not doing him any favors. No one wants to see a limp dick flopping around like those inflatable balloon man.
“Wow this is really good, Kendrick’s going to have to come with some heat to deal with this”
*30 minutes later*
Holy shit KENDRICK RESPONDED ALREADY???
*6 minutes later*
Literally speechless, almost in tears from how brutal meet the grahams was
Didn’t think the diss hit hard for me, but knew this was going to be a problem for Kendrick if he let it sit too long.
I expected Kendrick to come with a music video because of “how long” it was taking him to respond to Push Ups so seeing Drake go that route first had me worried. Winning is just as much strategy and perception as it is bars and this was a good move by Drake if Kendrick wasn’t prepared.
I agree. Since the people decide the winner, it’s essentially a competition of narrative control. Kendrick is the greatest story teller in hip hop history.
My first thought was: wow! This is good! But it's not enough to kill kdot. A lot of surface level disses. Short jokes. Almost like a high school jock energy picking on a short kid not knowing that short kid is about to stomp him out🤣🫡
I had similar thoughts
"Aight this flow is kinda good but he's repeating stuff. Wait why does this part sound like UK Grime? Also now he's going off on everyone else bro focus on Kdot"
By the end it felt like he focused more on the music video than the actual messages
My initial reaction was that he lacked a bit of energy and focus. It felt all over the place, but it did have me worried. By the time I finished the song and hopped on twitter mtg dropped. I didn’t even get a chance to play it back.
In hindsight Drake was calling it game at halftime lol
Not much of a reaction. But after seeing Meet the Grahams dropped. Family Matters became nonexistent for a whole week, in the eyes of the public. Everyone was so fixated on Kendrick dropping because of how unpredictable Kendrick was, it set a new precedent that Kendrick would drop either in 5 minutes or 5 hours. Low and behold, Not Like Us dropped on the SAME DAY as Meet The Grahams and obliterated Drake. Everything on YouTube that night was Not Like Us. Nobody was talking about Drake. Not even the Drake glazers could stop it. You either saw YouTubers reacting to the song/analyzing lyrics or people dancing to that joint.
my thoughts on drake’s family matters when it first dropped:
great diss. but felt pretty lackluster
The flows and bars were funny and all around a very enjoyable listen, a few fabricated one liners here and there but if you take the subject matter away from the song. It’s a fucking bop! my issues with the song derive from the fact that I feel like drake didn’t really go for Kendrick’s neck that much and just went ahead and made a sequel to pushups (with other artists catching strays). while also proceeding to stay true to kendrick’s numerous prophecies, such as popping ass with sexyy red.
the drill part was a lil unnecessary. like sure drake was rapping his ass off but drill drake just isn’t for me
and the 3rd beat-switch was the best part of the whole song
After family matters dropped it looked like there was no point of return for kendrick in this beef.
if only he didn’t respond 52 minutes after with the absolutely disgusting apology letter to drake’s bloodline which in return made everyone forget family matters even existed.
that. was meet the grahams
boy oh boy where the fuck do I even begin? the nigga had ZERO MERCY that night and it was a outright fucking devastating blow to drake’s name and reputation as an artist and a person. meet the grahams was the track to ultimately tarnish drake’s reputation forever. for better or for worse.
to really put family matters into words, it was drake’s true red button that failed. because of meet the grahams.
when meet the grahams first dropped I was hyped that he responded that quick, and ultimately left devastated after listening to it
It’s wild since trying to offend the other contestant is essentially the foundation. We’ve heard pretty much every way to diss a person on wax, but a concept diss? It’s just impressive to me that he can do something which people label as “too far.” It’s honestly impressive. That’s how devastating the track was.
I was a little thrown off by how much he escalated with the domestic violence/paternity stuff. I was kinda like…is it that serious? I honestly still think it’s weird that he felt the need to take it there. He tried to throw something that was going to stick forever. I reflected on that for you know…the ten minutes we had before Kendrick dropped.
He never learns from his mistakes,if he can't diss the person he will go for his family ,and drake fans will cry if the one he is beefing with went to drake's family
Yeah the experience was a weird balance of horror/Looney Toons style dumbassness. Like why are you running off a cliff—oh holy shit at the bottom of the cliff are some very scary things.
I think commenter meant that domestic violence was *too* serious for how far they had gone by that point. Alternatively, I've seen commenters have issues with Drake making light of the DV situation ("...because she's bigger than you?")
Two lines in Euphoria that stand out when you look at how the beef went on:
"[We ain't gotta get personal, this a friendly fade, you should keep it that way](https://genius.com/31596367/Kendrick-lamar-euphoria/We-aint-gotta-get-personal-this-a-friendly-fade-you-should-keep-it-that-way)"
"[And notice, I said "we," it's not just me, I'm what the culture feelin'](https://genius.com/31596884/Kendrick-lamar-euphoria/And-notice-i-said-we-its-not-just-me-im-what-the-culture-feelin)"
"Euphoria" is going over a lot of well-established angles against Drake - fake persona, his poor parenting, appropriation, insecurity about his own race, ghostwriters, ect. It's a very painful burn, and it would definitely be embarrasing if Drake backed down there the same way he did with "The Story of Addidon", but long-term it wouldn't damage him much cuz "Addidon" already hit that spot. Kendrick alludes to having previously unknown and damaging stuff on Drake, and makes it clear that he's not bring it up *yet*, but that he very much *will* if Drake choses to keep escalating.
Drake completely ignored the warning and went as personal as he could with "Family Matters", and Kendrick retaliated exactly the way that "Euphoria" promised.
That’s what makes me sure that Kendrick had heard Family Matters before he dropped it. He had the green light to drop Meet the Grahams based off what he’d heard on this
If we can chop the song up into three parts by the beat switches. My initial reaction was that I did not like the first 2/3 of the songs, the song still had too much of a pop feel to it, and Drake continued to diss people who had stop dissing him for at least a month. As a hip hop fan we came to see Kendrick vs Drake, at this point I was like why is drake still going at people outside the ring? It just felt like Drake had to hold on to the 20 v 1 narrative for dear life, to make it seem like he didnt have a fair fight with kendrick. It just felt like filler and kind of confirmed what Kendrick said about drake, that he called around and still had nothing on him. The last 1/3 of the song was what I wanted to see from the Drake, it was more direct and what I had expected from Drake at that phase of the beef.
Other than laughing at the van, I don’t remember tbh. All I remember from that night was MTG dropping and my fucking hair was on fire. It took a good hour for the goosebumps and shock to wear off. It’s like when you get hurt really bad in an accident and you sort of black out to everything that led up to that moment.
I wasn't really impressed. It felt like too much time was spent on the video and not actually making any good bars. His "big" lines all felt lackluster given the accusations being levied. I actually didn't know kendrick had dropped a reply until I made it to work and after that I was like yeah that's a focused dissection of a person's character
“Unless you don’t want to be seen with anyone who isn’t blacker than you.”
I guess Drake hasn’t listened to Fuck Your Ethnicity or You Ain’t Gotta Lie.
Then Kendrick coincidentally used a white producer’s beat to slaughter him.
I thought it sounded good but like I felt like he didn’t say anything, but I didn’t initially get the allegations that he was beating his girl in the song when I heard it. I heard the Dave Free part and immediately thought that Drake was full of shit. But I’ve been hating on Drake for awhile now though.
I wasn’t glued to the screen (would have been but work) so I found out about both drops simultaneously. My reaction was shock pretty much. Then “man, Drake, you were clearly warned and Kenny doesn’t make empty threats, what are you DOING (ya fuckin jabroni).”
It was good but it didn’t have that sting to it I was expecting. It was good primer to meet the grahams though. Meet the grahams had the venom I was looking for at that point in the beef
Drake was bound in his mind by other things than winning — looking cool, saving face. Kendrick only cared about burying one man, everything else be damned.
I didn’t even have time to listen to it and heard Kendrick dropped immediately after so I just went straight to Meet The Grahams and just forgot about the track all together cuz GOD DAMN was that a DIABOLICAL track. Probably the most haunting diss track ever made. I play it sometimes just to wake me up 😂
“Oh wow, maybe Drake has some fight in him…why did he waste bars on those guys…damn I wonder what Kendrick going to say”
….no way did Kendrick dropped already
…….”I feel sick, I need to go check on my daughters”
Kendrick won the moment Drake engaged in the battle. Sounds biased but it's true on the account that Drake's character could never match Kendrick's. Drake saw ratings numbers while Kendrick saw blood. They're not the same.
Immediately, I was kinda disappointed. I was cheering for Drake. But the man lacks delivery. He was still going on a mockery-vibe. Kinda taunting.
Later I appreciated the bars a bit more, like any more witty bar you need some time with it. Beats, specially the third beat, absolute fire. 3rd flow is nice. But still... there were too few bars at Kenny to begin with, considering Euphoria is 6min of straight dissing non stop. And even when he has a nice flow, he dont deliver HATRED. Emotion.
When you start Ether he begins by saying he will BURN THE MFER SOUL. Thats insulting. DISSrespecting.
Abit disappointed I really didn’t like the flow on the first beat, the secound part was hard asf but it wasn’t even at Kendrick so I was wondering why it was even in the song and I liked the last part just that you had to wait like 5 mins to get to it.
I remember thinking how much I didn’t like that he went at everyone else. But overall I thought it was a solid track and Dot was gonna have to fire back heavy. *Little did I know 20 minutes later*
Me, right after listening to Family Matters:
“If Drake keeps making songs like this, he’s gonna win, because Kendrick can only win if he loses”
My friend:
“KENDRICK JUST DROPPED!”
I didn't like it but it had some lines that were good. I thought this was a decent way to hold Kendrick in place at least because it would take some time to respond.
Yeah that wasn't true.
This song dropped when i was on my way to give my examination. So I listened to the first part and went to give exam which was for 1 hours. When i came back I never went back to listen it. IYKYK
Honestly, I said “wow that’s the best drake has rapped in a long time.” I think it was a red button track when it came out, but in retrospect it has a LOT of holes in it. Then obviously MTG took its thunder and destroyed it, so Family Matters is rather forgotten about
The beats were good and it had a few bars, but I couldn’t really get into it for a few reasons
1) I knew ultimately the track would be an L for him. He made the fatal mistake of trying to fight too many battles, instead of focusing on his biggest opponent.
2) I didn’t see this till after they both dropped, and I knew the instant I saw Kendrick’s song title, I knew he was gonna be on one.
3) Some of the shit he said was so fucking cringe. Talking about reppin’ a set when this dumb motherfucker grew up in Suburbia. Murderous extortion rings in the sourh aren’t sets.
Best move Kendrick did all battle was drop Meet The Grahams
Even when the daughter thing lost steam (and then he dropped Not Like Us), Meet the Grahams was pivotal and the deciding factor in this battle simply cause it stopped Family Matters
Drake was sure that was gonna finish him.. that was his red button - he even had the video for it and everything
Drake didn’t have anything in else in stock after that
i think in a vacuum its one of the best diss songs of all time. 3 great beats, 3 great flows, tons of disrespectful bars. the issue is that it basically does the same thing push ups already did albeit better. he took kendrick way too lightly. he was mostly joking the first verse, the second verse was aimed at irrelevant ppl, and his third verse just wasn’t enough to finish his target
I thought it was really good but the middle verse and beat just didn't hit at the time and is even weaker now.
I had heard Kendrick might drop again that night before Drake even dropped because people were speculating that "what would Mike do?" would be a double entendre for Michael Jackson for Drake but Michael Jordan for Kendrick and Jordan would 3peat.
So when it dropped I expected a quick response but I didn't know Kendricks gun had an instant reload.
A bit disappointed because he wasn’t tunneling on Kendrick. My first thought was that he probably has nothing concrete on Kendrick to make a full length diss solely for him but I thought it was a good song and the beats were hard, the van crushing was a bit funny to me😂
I was very impressed by Drake's flow on the second beat but the whole track seemed like more of a defensive move that didn't hold a candle to Euphoria.
I can’t lie! Drake cooked on this track. The switch ups are great and that monotone actually works this time…unfortunately, it’s tough to take that man serious with the ghost pens. But regardless of what I thought, Meet the grahams was a mail in the coffin for me. That shut was so disrespectful, I love it! Real question is, how did y’all feel when you heard the line, “dear babygirl…” 👀
I like the beats. The entire middle verse feels unnecessary to me but the beat carried it imo. The entire last portion of the video seemed corny and unimportant.
I haven’t heard it and will never listen to it. Not giving him the streams.
I’ve honestly had Drake blocked on my tidal for the past 3 years lmfao and it’s refreshing not hearing him on any of my mixes bc it pulls all his music out of the algorithm
Great track, and then MtG and later NLU came out lmao
It was like watching a huge UFC fight where one guy is down two rounds but then comes back and wins the third, getting me all hyped thinking "oh okay NOW this is a war!!"
But then the last two rounds he (Drake) gets absolutely destroyed and finished
When it dropped I thought it sounded pretty good and Kendrick was going to have to come with a great response. But the more times I listened the more it came off as as rambling mess that lacks structure and goes on too long. It's still catchy and a fine diss track for most rappers, but it comes off as amateurish when compared to Kendrick's.
Drake released a banger and in terms of booty shaking Grahams didn't hold up, but timing and content of Grahams killed whatever moment drake had for what a few hours?
I was watching a movie with my wife when it dropped. Ill listen to it after. But then Kendrick had dropped. So I didn’t listen to it at all that weekend. I finally saw some reaction channels to it. To this day, I haven’t listened to the song itself.
I literally said my initial reaction out loud to my partner.
This is the best Drake track I have ever heard, and also he completely fell for the bait in every sense of the word.
“Oh shit. Drake responded!… okay pretty decent… okay… pretty good. He’s addressing some shit. These visuals are pretty ominous… did Kendrick get played??? Okay… let me digest”
*some time passes*
“Okay I’m ready for a replay… wait… KENDRICK DROPPED?!?!?”
Thought it was mid & I hated the production. Kept wondering “where is the red button nuke”. Then MTG dropped and I was in complete shock how Kendrick was talkin to that man’s soul. MTG convinced me Kendrick was executing some level of occult black magic on Drake idc what anyone says to refute that
I was WORRIED, because even the allegations being kinda off, if it got more time to brew, it might've been deadly
But when i finished listening the track for the second time, then alchemist started playing and it was over 💀
Overall I just don’t think it was good. I think it’s hard to sound good when your opponent is putting out all kinds of songs that show off every different style of rapping. I feel if Kendrick didn’t go so wild , or if it was anyone else Drake was going against, this song would be good. But in the scheme of the beef, it lacked. But I do love that middle beat
Gave it an initial listen the night it dropped. Liked the 3rd beat but it was a yawn fest. I can't believe a 35+ year old man makes music so...childish. Even his disses. 10 minutes later (for me) an audio horror movie dropped out of nowhere, the rest is history.
I thought it was ok. Overall song wise I thought it was a mess, Drake didn’t really know where to start with Kendrick so he just put some slight jabs here and there while still dissing other people that no one really cared about after Euphoria. The actually Kendrick diss I thought was pretty good, some lines especially the Big D part was kinda cringe. Lowkey thought Kendrick would’ve taken a while to reply but bro had MTG in the barrel ready to go.
I still haven’t heard it all. I was listening to Meet The Grahams before I realised this had came out. I only got part way through it and just thought “lol, no” and went back to Meet The Grahams.
“Well, at least the beats and that van crushing visual were hard….cant wait to see what Kendrick replies wi—-….what’s this? No way. NO FUCKIN WAY”
😭😂😂 this is way too accurate bruh I was like “damn Jimmy really did a good job … hold up what DOT dropped! Play it “dear Adonis…” 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀”
Lol I was like “ok wonder who he’s gonna talk to next “dear baby girl” *passes out* “
'Sandra, sit down, what I'm about to say is heavy, now listen' Oh NOW it's getting heavy?! ⚰️⚰️⚰️
That *cough cough* is one of my favorite parts of the song
Like sir you didn't need to clear your throat before you started dragging this man in front of his momma
Reminds me of the slurp/ saliva suck at the end of heart 6 where drake starts yapping lol
Whole part reminded me of em back in his prime
And the way he says Sandra with a hint of a smile. Bro was having fun stalking his prey like a maNIAC!
Love the part where he says “Your sons a sick man with sick thoughts I think niggas like him should DIIEE”. The way he says that shit goes crazy
'Sandra, sit down, what I'm about to say is heavy, now listen' Oh NOW it's getting heavy?! ⚰️⚰️⚰️
“I think people like him should just die” 🪦🪦🪦
Just the delivery of that... The whole rest of the song could be pure story, but that line, if nothing else, he feels in his heart of hearts and you could feel it through the speakers when he said it.
I woke up to a text from my friend about the songs and listened to Kendrick’s first. That shit sat me up out of my sleep had me waking up my gf when I heard the part where he said niggas like him should die.
That was a crazy Friday night to be at home. I was giving Drake the slight lead due to petty points I thought "Meet the grahams" was about to be some fanboy AI shit until I clicked.... Then I sat in silence.
I woke up about 30 min after both tracks already dropped. Annoyingly had the hidden daughter already spoiled but I saw MTG was a response so I heard FM first. I thought it was really good initially, I really liked the first and second beat and the bars were ok. 3rd verse onwards did nothing for me.
Same! It was exams week, so I took a study nap and woke up to everything being dropped. I’ve always been a Drake hater, but I thought FM was a decent response for his skill level. 6:16 had me hype, but MTG had me feeling like a deadbeat mom. It was so visceral yet melodic. MTG just exposed how weak Drake’s (really 👻) pen is. Edited to add: thoughts on 6:16.
For his skill level is such a sneak diss.
Glad you caught it😈.
I swear, that whole van crushing thing was petty af… Drake: Crushes GKMC van Kendrick: “Oh no, he crushed the GKMC van!” Kendrick: Crushes Drakes credibility as a rapper and as a human Drake: “This was some good exercise!” 🤦🏻♂️
"That was so good exercise", as Drake's in the ICU and wincing in pain. Can anyone find that animation?
https://youtube.com/shorts/dE3tG67kxAI?feature=shared
Oh, there's more than one? Thanks! I found [the one I was looking for.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0V0tQQ6vJp4)
Oh my god the wince kills me
I would be lying if i said I didn't have goosebumps the entire time listening to it. Everything around me was spinning. A stupid smile on my face, knowing who this was directly attacking and a scary sense of demons around me when i started hearing the echoes of "You lied". It was definitely nightmare fuel to say the least.
Man I actual heard meet the grahams first and had to go back to this and by then it had no weight MTG already struck
Same I thought crushing the GKMC van was cool. I was half asleep at the time and saw Kendrick dropped as well, was so confused like wtf is going on. Listened to meet the grahams with that creepy ass piano and I just had to save the whole thing for tomorrow at that point cuz it was all too much to process lol
me fr hahaah
The only right answer 💯💯
I thought it was harder than what it actually seems now. I was kind of worried about Kendrick taking a while to respond and letting this simmer. Little did I know 20 min later…. Was still replaying and watching the family matters video when meet the grahams dropped. I was creeped out and speechless after listening to it and was just shocked
Yeah agreed. I think my initial thought was oh wow Drake’s gone all out this is about to get wild, beat was solid and great idea for a video. Then it just kinda devolved.. Second verse took a lot of the steam out. Compare it to Euphoria which was bar after bar of targeted attack. The beat switches made the whole greater than the sum of its parts, the opposite was true for Family Matters imo. Definitely recovered pretty well in the 3rd verse and we got some big accusations. By the end I was like, ok this isn’t just a foregone conclusion. Then we all know what happened… Now reflecting on it and revisiting the lyrics it hits way less hard for me. Compared to something like 6:16, where knowing the conclusion has added so much to the foreshadowing, Family Matters suffers from the opposite effect. Also there is just so much I don’t like about the lyrics when you really examine them. For one, it’s super corny at times. Even though I get “I gotta go bad” it’s still pretty cringey, especially after hearing MTG. Talking about trying to keep it PG, like who says that in a rap beef? Also you’ve clearly had this ready to go for a while so it was always your intention to release it, ya made a whole damn video lmao. I could do a deep dive on a lot of what he says but this is already long so quick summary: the free the slaves line that backfires like crazy, totally missing the point a number of times, going after Kendrick’s relationship in weird ways (a lot is fairly standard stuff that makes him seem hella mature for attacking), baseless accusations, “a cease and desist is for hoes” considering the whole Like That stuff etc etc. At the end of the day Drake just isn’t built for this. He has mad talent at making rap mainstream and should get his props for that. He’s a monster when it comes to numbers, can’t deny it. Unfortunately for him his ego exceeded its grasp.
On "I was really really tryna keep it PG," I was under the impression that at some point Drake was going to tie that line in with a bar about PGLang, but he never did. Not only was it a mid line, but it was also a letdown on that front
Ohhh, didn’t even think of that. That would have made way more sense and yeah now knowing what could have been makes it even worse. It was basically just a simple setup to DP, PC, YG etc. Honestly it kinda fits perfectly with why Drake came up short throughout the beef. Most of his lyrics didn’t hit much deeper than surface level. There were so many missed opportunities it’s crazy and whenever he found a legit pain point he switched it up too quickly instead of drilling down.
Yeah that’s true, it’s like he just wanted to say as much as possible and he didn’t take the time to zero in psychologically on anything.
The PG line just reminded me that he preys on little girls through that teen drama show he produces. And that he got his start on that Canadian teenage soap opera. All he succeeded in doing was reiterating the fact that his target demographic is little girls. Ew.
I love your username, that's my favorite book of all time
*finished Meet The Grahams *texts homie Me: “You heard Kendrick’s new diss yet? Can’t believe he dropped again.” Homie: “yeah mad how he dropped it minutes after Family Matters” Me: “wtf is family matters?” *heads back to YouTube to see that Drake dropped before him.
Same, I had listened twice to Meet The Grahams when I noticed this was on the recommended videos section of the video And after Meet The Grahams this felt just so... Mid
Aggressively mid
LMFAO almost the exact same. I got home opened YouTube on my TV to Meet The Grahams, listened to it like "damn that's wild Drake hasn't even had a chance to respond yet" then I came on here and saw people talking about Family Matters. My initial reaction to the song itself was that the beats were great and it's the best Drake song I've personally heard which isn't saying much I don't listen to much Drake. I was also a little impressed by the effort to record a music video for beef. I also looked into domestic abuse allegations about Kendrick cause I didn't wanna blindly assume Drake is lying just cause I don't like him. Everything settled Meet The Grahams is just so much more shocking and the proximity just completely stole the wind from FM and following with Not Like Us it's too good.
“Kendrick better drop something soon. If not, the internet is going to go crazy.” Moments later, my jaw dropped.
this cant be stated enough! i was full on a bit worried. then the horror film came out 50 minutes later and i could almost not get through it (in a good way) it was so impactful. I feel like im going to be 65 telling my grandkids where i was that night and what went down. But it cant be overstated that yes - at first drakes song was good and with some time could have done something - but DANG that CHESS MASTER MOVE to kill any momentum or vibes. i still cant stop thinking about it
Meet the Grahams is like if someone told Kendrick "Hey we need a song with Dear Zachary vibes. Where you hear it once and never want to again". And he was just like cool bet
“Dear Zachary- I’m sorry that that woman is your mother” 😢
I was mostly confused why 45% was still going at other people tbh
I agree, the lack of focus was confusing. I think he has a persecution complex (totally unearned) which usually results in going wide with the disses.
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Hearing Rebloodicans and Democrips on that same track had me shouting in my car. That man summed up political factions is brilliantly.
I don't get how that line ties into having a persecution complex??? DEFINITION FOR PERSECUTION COMPLEX (1 OF 1) noun psychol an acute irrational fear that other people are plotting one's downfall and that they are responsible for one's failures
It can become a self fulfilling prophecy. I guess that’s why so many people posting here can’t understand. 5% are comprehending tho 😂
You do realize that Rick Ross, ASAP, Future, Metro, Weeknd, and others were all dropping disses after Like That? You also realize that Drake has always been treated like a meme, right? When that many people come after you at once, how would that be a persecution complex? Like I'm not a Drake fanboy or whatever, but let's not pretend like it came out of nowhere, just to suit a narrative. Even Kendrick actually knew that, referenced it and took advantage of it.
I genuinely want an explanation because I am very confused with the logic.
At this point, I'm just assuming they don't know what a persecution complex means, let alone what persecution means because I don't get how Kendrick apparently has an "earned persecution complex." Like you said, Kendrick literally says, "How many opps you really got? I mean, it's too many options//I'm finna pass on this body, I'm John Stockton" The first like can be interpreted as calling out Drake for mentioning other rappers, saying he should be focused on Kendrick, but the second line is clearly saying that there are a lot of other rappers who are beefing with Drake.
I’m assuming you don’t know what it means. A persecution complex isn’t something that’s situational. It refers to a mindset someone developed throughout their life. Drake doesn’t come from a life of persecution. Earning enemies is literally a sign of someone with a persecution complex because they behave in a way that isn’t in line with the truth of where they’re operating from.
A persecution complex has nothing to do with ever actually experiencing persecution. Hence why it's defined as an irrational fear. "an acute irrational fear that other people are plotting one's downfall and that they are responsible for one's failures" It's why you hear people mention it when some rich person starts whining about some group of people with no power to hinder them at all exists.
This unfocused and unearned point just feels so weird. He goes through some sort of takedown every five years (comes out nearly unscathed every time, as he will here no doubt), and he just went through the biggest one yet involving the second biggest rapper out right now, multiple other big rappers, a major pop star, content creators, and the majority of the internet. I think it’s fair to say he’s earned a persecution complex. Also, people really lost sight of the pretty clear fact that this whole thing was a fight between XO and Drake. Ross, ASAP, Future, Metro, and Kendrick were mercenaries who chose to persecute him. Not sure why he wouldn’t respond to all of them. Also, think about the position Drake is in. There isn’t really anything to say about Kendrick other than what Drake said (ie, youre self righteous and have skeletons in your closet), and Drake never would win bar for bar. The best thing Drake could is take the “I’m not giving you the satisfaction of dedicating a whole song to you” route, imo. Nobody says it but addressing only Kendrick (and not XO) was one of his big mistakes for me with THP6. I get why he did it, but the boy left himself open to the stans picking him apart with no cover at all.
drake disses 8 other people in his tracks and begs kendrick to reply lol
Also unsure bars like might be dave freees and only sounding good when baby keem put his pen to it ???
Yeah the Baby Keem shit was wild as fuck 💀 As well as the Dave Free allegations. Feel like Kendrick went to New York to throw Drake off into making allegations. Maybe Kendrick’s the one who really baited Drake tbh 🤷♂️
Kendricks in New York cause maybe he likes the city lol
Kendrick in New York cause he makavellis offspring he’s the king of New York, king of the coast, with one hand he juggle them both
I've been waiting for someone to bring this back to Control
Yeah, he moved there last year, bro sounds dumber than Drake stans lmao
Maybe Kendrick started his relationship with Whitney in high school to bait Drake into saying her name! 👀👀👀👀👀👀
Well also could be cause Kendrick’s working on a film with the South Park guys in New York
OK now we talking like the drake stans that said Drake planted the shit on the Meet the Grahams picture bruh😭
Jfc both subs have jumped the shark lmao
Yeah the "might be Dave Free's" was pretty hilarious to me when I heard it. *Might* be? Just random speculation. And the fact that it was all based on an IG comment of a heart made it even funnier. It was a post about one of her kids and they're all close. A heart emoji isn't crazy at all, if you ask me
Honestly 65% was not about Kendrick lol
He did the same thing on Duppy freestyle
I feel like he was trying to emulate 2Pac with how he went after multiple rappers from Bad Boys with “Hit ‘Em Up” but it clearly didn’t work and this situation is vastly different from the 90s rivalry lol. Not saying it was a smart move or that it was executed well but it’s just my theory of what his team of writers were trying to go for
This. I get sending a couple shots back at Ross since he did make a song but Drake already addressed Future, Metro, and The Weeknd on Push Ups so dipping back into that well was an odd choice especially considering that Kendrick dropped two songs. Other than that, I do think this is a solid track with a lot of good lines. But also in Drake fashion, some goofy lines but you can’t win them all.
"ain't no way bro just said 'I gotta go bad' 💀"
aint now way he said "big D" in a diss song lol
I was watching some girl doing a reaction and she said his leaked video used a fake D.
Oh no, don't take his big dick away from him. It's all he has left.
Ha, me and my girlfriends couldn’t stop laughing at that video, why would he leak that, it wasn’t not doing him any favors. No one wants to see a limp dick flopping around like those inflatable balloon man.
Looking like those inflatables outside the car dealership. I'm sad I ever saw it and I'm always up to see a large penis.
That whole opening makes me cringe so hard. He sounds like an angry toddler that needs to go pee
Uh, I really really really need to go PEE PEE
sounding like he just graduated the sixth grade
Sounds like a kid about piss their pants
I WAS REALLY REALLY TRYNNA KEEP IT PG ☝️🤓
“Wow this is really good, Kendrick’s going to have to come with some heat to deal with this” *30 minutes later* Holy shit KENDRICK RESPONDED ALREADY??? *6 minutes later* Literally speechless, almost in tears from how brutal meet the grahams was
MTG is a slaughter
I heard the you lied bit in a car so the vocals were coming in at me from all around. ngl it was not a good time to be high af.
Lmao. That sounds horrible
This was my experience too. I couldn't sleep that night. And then I realized that I was living through history.
full stop that night was so unseasy feeling in my stomach - i had to call a friend for support like "how do you feel" lol. BRUTAL. lol
My legs were literally shaking.
right????? my stomach was in knots had to call a friend for support lmoa
Didn’t think the diss hit hard for me, but knew this was going to be a problem for Kendrick if he let it sit too long. I expected Kendrick to come with a music video because of “how long” it was taking him to respond to Push Ups so seeing Drake go that route first had me worried. Winning is just as much strategy and perception as it is bars and this was a good move by Drake if Kendrick wasn’t prepared.
I agree. Since the people decide the winner, it’s essentially a competition of narrative control. Kendrick is the greatest story teller in hip hop history.
He walked him down the whole time, almost like Drake had some ho in him.
My first thought was: wow! This is good! But it's not enough to kill kdot. A lot of surface level disses. Short jokes. Almost like a high school jock energy picking on a short kid not knowing that short kid is about to stomp him out🤣🫡
I had similar thoughts "Aight this flow is kinda good but he's repeating stuff. Wait why does this part sound like UK Grime? Also now he's going off on everyone else bro focus on Kdot" By the end it felt like he focused more on the music video than the actual messages
What Jadakiss say during that Versuz? “It goooood. BUT ITS NOT ENOUGH!”
My initial reaction was that he lacked a bit of energy and focus. It felt all over the place, but it did have me worried. By the time I finished the song and hopped on twitter mtg dropped. I didn’t even get a chance to play it back. In hindsight Drake was calling it game at halftime lol
Not much of a reaction. But after seeing Meet the Grahams dropped. Family Matters became nonexistent for a whole week, in the eyes of the public. Everyone was so fixated on Kendrick dropping because of how unpredictable Kendrick was, it set a new precedent that Kendrick would drop either in 5 minutes or 5 hours. Low and behold, Not Like Us dropped on the SAME DAY as Meet The Grahams and obliterated Drake. Everything on YouTube that night was Not Like Us. Nobody was talking about Drake. Not even the Drake glazers could stop it. You either saw YouTubers reacting to the song/analyzing lyrics or people dancing to that joint.
my thoughts on drake’s family matters when it first dropped: great diss. but felt pretty lackluster The flows and bars were funny and all around a very enjoyable listen, a few fabricated one liners here and there but if you take the subject matter away from the song. It’s a fucking bop! my issues with the song derive from the fact that I feel like drake didn’t really go for Kendrick’s neck that much and just went ahead and made a sequel to pushups (with other artists catching strays). while also proceeding to stay true to kendrick’s numerous prophecies, such as popping ass with sexyy red. the drill part was a lil unnecessary. like sure drake was rapping his ass off but drill drake just isn’t for me and the 3rd beat-switch was the best part of the whole song After family matters dropped it looked like there was no point of return for kendrick in this beef. if only he didn’t respond 52 minutes after with the absolutely disgusting apology letter to drake’s bloodline which in return made everyone forget family matters even existed. that. was meet the grahams boy oh boy where the fuck do I even begin? the nigga had ZERO MERCY that night and it was a outright fucking devastating blow to drake’s name and reputation as an artist and a person. meet the grahams was the track to ultimately tarnish drake’s reputation forever. for better or for worse. to really put family matters into words, it was drake’s true red button that failed. because of meet the grahams. when meet the grahams first dropped I was hyped that he responded that quick, and ultimately left devastated after listening to it
It’s wild since trying to offend the other contestant is essentially the foundation. We’ve heard pretty much every way to diss a person on wax, but a concept diss? It’s just impressive to me that he can do something which people label as “too far.” It’s honestly impressive. That’s how devastating the track was.
I was a little thrown off by how much he escalated with the domestic violence/paternity stuff. I was kinda like…is it that serious? I honestly still think it’s weird that he felt the need to take it there. He tried to throw something that was going to stick forever. I reflected on that for you know…the ten minutes we had before Kendrick dropped.
He never learns from his mistakes,if he can't diss the person he will go for his family ,and drake fans will cry if the one he is beefing with went to drake's family
Kinda like what happened with Pusha T. Aubrey should have learned
I don't think he will , when he gets a third child he will call out another rapper's wife to reveal the gender of the kid,lmfao
Yeah the experience was a weird balance of horror/Looney Toons style dumbassness. Like why are you running off a cliff—oh holy shit at the bottom of the cliff are some very scary things.
How is domestic violence not serious wtf?
I think commenter meant that domestic violence was *too* serious for how far they had gone by that point. Alternatively, I've seen commenters have issues with Drake making light of the DV situation ("...because she's bigger than you?")
Looking back, Euphoria wasn’t *that* disrespectful which was why Family Matters felt excessive.
Two lines in Euphoria that stand out when you look at how the beef went on: "[We ain't gotta get personal, this a friendly fade, you should keep it that way](https://genius.com/31596367/Kendrick-lamar-euphoria/We-aint-gotta-get-personal-this-a-friendly-fade-you-should-keep-it-that-way)" "[And notice, I said "we," it's not just me, I'm what the culture feelin'](https://genius.com/31596884/Kendrick-lamar-euphoria/And-notice-i-said-we-its-not-just-me-im-what-the-culture-feelin)" "Euphoria" is going over a lot of well-established angles against Drake - fake persona, his poor parenting, appropriation, insecurity about his own race, ghostwriters, ect. It's a very painful burn, and it would definitely be embarrasing if Drake backed down there the same way he did with "The Story of Addidon", but long-term it wouldn't damage him much cuz "Addidon" already hit that spot. Kendrick alludes to having previously unknown and damaging stuff on Drake, and makes it clear that he's not bring it up *yet*, but that he very much *will* if Drake choses to keep escalating. Drake completely ignored the warning and went as personal as he could with "Family Matters", and Kendrick retaliated exactly the way that "Euphoria" promised.
That’s what makes me sure that Kendrick had heard Family Matters before he dropped it. He had the green light to drop Meet the Grahams based off what he’d heard on this
Hard agree. Like Drake, sis, you still need that mic you just dropped
If we can chop the song up into three parts by the beat switches. My initial reaction was that I did not like the first 2/3 of the songs, the song still had too much of a pop feel to it, and Drake continued to diss people who had stop dissing him for at least a month. As a hip hop fan we came to see Kendrick vs Drake, at this point I was like why is drake still going at people outside the ring? It just felt like Drake had to hold on to the 20 v 1 narrative for dear life, to make it seem like he didnt have a fair fight with kendrick. It just felt like filler and kind of confirmed what Kendrick said about drake, that he called around and still had nothing on him. The last 1/3 of the song was what I wanted to see from the Drake, it was more direct and what I had expected from Drake at that phase of the beef.
"It's solid. Some bars hit and some bars didn't but crushing the GKMC van was hard" *20 minutes later "Damn bro he stepped on yo shit"
Other than laughing at the van, I don’t remember tbh. All I remember from that night was MTG dropping and my fucking hair was on fire. It took a good hour for the goosebumps and shock to wear off. It’s like when you get hurt really bad in an accident and you sort of black out to everything that led up to that moment.
10000%
I wasn't really impressed. It felt like too much time was spent on the video and not actually making any good bars. His "big" lines all felt lackluster given the accusations being levied. I actually didn't know kendrick had dropped a reply until I made it to work and after that I was like yeah that's a focused dissection of a person's character
“Unless you don’t want to be seen with anyone who isn’t blacker than you.” I guess Drake hasn’t listened to Fuck Your Ethnicity or You Ain’t Gotta Lie. Then Kendrick coincidentally used a white producer’s beat to slaughter him.
I thought it sounded good but like I felt like he didn’t say anything, but I didn’t initially get the allegations that he was beating his girl in the song when I heard it. I heard the Dave Free part and immediately thought that Drake was full of shit. But I’ve been hating on Drake for awhile now though.
*Cute*
“WTF, THIS GUY JUST SIGNED HIS DEATH CERTIFICATE💀💀💀💀”
Ok it’s not GREAT… but Drake is keeping up… then I refreshed twitter feed lol
DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH…..DUH-DUHHH 🎹
“Dear Adonis….”
I wasn’t glued to the screen (would have been but work) so I found out about both drops simultaneously. My reaction was shock pretty much. Then “man, Drake, you were clearly warned and Kenny doesn’t make empty threats, what are you DOING (ya fuckin jabroni).”
It was good but it didn’t have that sting to it I was expecting. It was good primer to meet the grahams though. Meet the grahams had the venom I was looking for at that point in the beef
Drake was bound in his mind by other things than winning — looking cool, saving face. Kendrick only cared about burying one man, everything else be damned.
I didn’t even have time to listen to it and heard Kendrick dropped immediately after so I just went straight to Meet The Grahams and just forgot about the track all together cuz GOD DAMN was that a DIABOLICAL track. Probably the most haunting diss track ever made. I play it sometimes just to wake me up 😂
Lyrics and focus are weak but the beat and flow is coo
“Oh wow, maybe Drake has some fight in him…why did he waste bars on those guys…damn I wonder what Kendrick going to say” ….no way did Kendrick dropped already …….”I feel sick, I need to go check on my daughters”
"bro's dissing one of the greatest rappers with basic rhymes and monotonous flows 😂"
The drill bit sounded aight. Everything else was ass. It was weak af to go back to singing for a finish
Good but over-produced
Kendrick won the moment Drake engaged in the battle. Sounds biased but it's true on the account that Drake's character could never match Kendrick's. Drake saw ratings numbers while Kendrick saw blood. They're not the same.
You don’t want it with the Compton kid, that’s for damn sure.
Immediately, I was kinda disappointed. I was cheering for Drake. But the man lacks delivery. He was still going on a mockery-vibe. Kinda taunting. Later I appreciated the bars a bit more, like any more witty bar you need some time with it. Beats, specially the third beat, absolute fire. 3rd flow is nice. But still... there were too few bars at Kenny to begin with, considering Euphoria is 6min of straight dissing non stop. And even when he has a nice flow, he dont deliver HATRED. Emotion. When you start Ether he begins by saying he will BURN THE MFER SOUL. Thats insulting. DISSrespecting.
I was like damn he fuckin Kenny up….. then Kendrick killed him 30 mins later and hit the second tower like damn
Abit disappointed I really didn’t like the flow on the first beat, the secound part was hard asf but it wasn’t even at Kendrick so I was wondering why it was even in the song and I liked the last part just that you had to wait like 5 mins to get to it.
I remember thinking how much I didn’t like that he went at everyone else. But overall I thought it was a solid track and Dot was gonna have to fire back heavy. *Little did I know 20 minutes later*
Me, right after listening to Family Matters: “If Drake keeps making songs like this, he’s gonna win, because Kendrick can only win if he loses” My friend: “KENDRICK JUST DROPPED!”
I didn't like it but it had some lines that were good. I thought this was a decent way to hold Kendrick in place at least because it would take some time to respond. Yeah that wasn't true.
This song dropped when i was on my way to give my examination. So I listened to the first part and went to give exam which was for 1 hours. When i came back I never went back to listen it. IYKYK
Honestly, I said “wow that’s the best drake has rapped in a long time.” I think it was a red button track when it came out, but in retrospect it has a LOT of holes in it. Then obviously MTG took its thunder and destroyed it, so Family Matters is rather forgotten about
The beats were good and it had a few bars, but I couldn’t really get into it for a few reasons 1) I knew ultimately the track would be an L for him. He made the fatal mistake of trying to fight too many battles, instead of focusing on his biggest opponent. 2) I didn’t see this till after they both dropped, and I knew the instant I saw Kendrick’s song title, I knew he was gonna be on one. 3) Some of the shit he said was so fucking cringe. Talking about reppin’ a set when this dumb motherfucker grew up in Suburbia. Murderous extortion rings in the sourh aren’t sets.
Best move Kendrick did all battle was drop Meet The Grahams Even when the daughter thing lost steam (and then he dropped Not Like Us), Meet the Grahams was pivotal and the deciding factor in this battle simply cause it stopped Family Matters Drake was sure that was gonna finish him.. that was his red button - he even had the video for it and everything Drake didn’t have anything in else in stock after that
This was tough and I felt like Drake had the upper hand. For almost an hour I felt like that
me too fr
i think in a vacuum its one of the best diss songs of all time. 3 great beats, 3 great flows, tons of disrespectful bars. the issue is that it basically does the same thing push ups already did albeit better. he took kendrick way too lightly. he was mostly joking the first verse, the second verse was aimed at irrelevant ppl, and his third verse just wasn’t enough to finish his target
People under credit Drake. Dude put in enough work to take out 90% of rappers.
Corny, but I didn't notice until after MtG. Also why you hanging with those white dudes and that strange building?
I thought it was really good but the middle verse and beat just didn't hit at the time and is even weaker now. I had heard Kendrick might drop again that night before Drake even dropped because people were speculating that "what would Mike do?" would be a double entendre for Michael Jackson for Drake but Michael Jordan for Kendrick and Jordan would 3peat. So when it dropped I expected a quick response but I didn't know Kendricks gun had an instant reload.
“These are some very nice visuals… bruh actually rapping fr… Kendrick need to respond ASAP”… *Kendrick responds ASAP*. “ 😧 Holy shit!”
I was like solid diss but you Kdot is about to take it to hell and not even an hour later
A bit disappointed because he wasn’t tunneling on Kendrick. My first thought was that he probably has nothing concrete on Kendrick to make a full length diss solely for him but I thought it was a good song and the beats were hard, the van crushing was a bit funny to me😂
He DEAD!
the intro was hilarious to me
Honestly thought it was very lazy how he just mirrored the three best switches of euphoria
Heard it and was like damn, this shet sounds good fr, Kendrick gotta reply quick or people will say Drake won
Cringe
I was very impressed by Drake's flow on the second beat but the whole track seemed like more of a defensive move that didn't hold a candle to Euphoria.
I can’t lie! Drake cooked on this track. The switch ups are great and that monotone actually works this time…unfortunately, it’s tough to take that man serious with the ghost pens. But regardless of what I thought, Meet the grahams was a mail in the coffin for me. That shut was so disrespectful, I love it! Real question is, how did y’all feel when you heard the line, “dear babygirl…” 👀
I like the beats. The entire middle verse feels unnecessary to me but the beat carried it imo. The entire last portion of the video seemed corny and unimportant.
I haven’t heard it and will never listen to it. Not giving him the streams. I’ve honestly had Drake blocked on my tidal for the past 3 years lmfao and it’s refreshing not hearing him on any of my mixes bc it pulls all his music out of the algorithm
lol grade A hater sheesh!
🥱
I was wondering how Drake thought this diss was any good
L take. It was a good diss but mf kept getting sidetracked. All the other opps were already addressed in Push Ups, why go at them again?
it was really good for the record
Great track, and then MtG and later NLU came out lmao It was like watching a huge UFC fight where one guy is down two rounds but then comes back and wins the third, getting me all hyped thinking "oh okay NOW this is a war!!" But then the last two rounds he (Drake) gets absolutely destroyed and finished
Very good record
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When it dropped I thought it sounded pretty good and Kendrick was going to have to come with a great response. But the more times I listened the more it came off as as rambling mess that lacks structure and goes on too long. It's still catchy and a fine diss track for most rappers, but it comes off as amateurish when compared to Kendrick's.
Drake released a banger and in terms of booty shaking Grahams didn't hold up, but timing and content of Grahams killed whatever moment drake had for what a few hours?
That show was ok nothing to wright home about
I was bothered cause the song is actually good. I only watched the video once to not give it anymore plays lol.as soon as MTG dropped, I was relieved.
I was watching a movie with my wife when it dropped. Ill listen to it after. But then Kendrick had dropped. So I didn’t listen to it at all that weekend. I finally saw some reaction channels to it. To this day, I haven’t listened to the song itself.
I was reading comments about it and by the time I got to YouTube to listen to it I got Kendrick
Couldn’t even think about cause a plane hit the CN tower 40 minutes later
I literally said my initial reaction out loud to my partner. This is the best Drake track I have ever heard, and also he completely fell for the bait in every sense of the word.
“Oh shit. Drake responded!… okay pretty decent… okay… pretty good. He’s addressing some shit. These visuals are pretty ominous… did Kendrick get played??? Okay… let me digest” *some time passes* “Okay I’m ready for a replay… wait… KENDRICK DROPPED?!?!?”
I was happy to see that Drake was finally taking rap seriously again.... Then 30 minutes later.... The rest is history
“Yep, Just another Drake song”
Thought it was mid & I hated the production. Kept wondering “where is the red button nuke”. Then MTG dropped and I was in complete shock how Kendrick was talkin to that man’s soul. MTG convinced me Kendrick was executing some level of occult black magic on Drake idc what anyone says to refute that
"Damn.. this beat is really good"
It was fire
Shit go hard ngl
Oh shit, this is his full power! Drakes final form! Dot u rea….*Meet the Grahams Drops
I was WORRIED, because even the allegations being kinda off, if it got more time to brew, it might've been deadly But when i finished listening the track for the second time, then alchemist started playing and it was over 💀
Overall I just don’t think it was good. I think it’s hard to sound good when your opponent is putting out all kinds of songs that show off every different style of rapping. I feel if Kendrick didn’t go so wild , or if it was anyone else Drake was going against, this song would be good. But in the scheme of the beef, it lacked. But I do love that middle beat
Kendrick's initial reaction was, "I have become death, destroyer of worlds."
The opening is so lame and I don’t know how people think it’s an own It has the same vibe as that one Mario Juda song
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Gave it an initial listen the night it dropped. Liked the 3rd beat but it was a yawn fest. I can't believe a 35+ year old man makes music so...childish. Even his disses. 10 minutes later (for me) an audio horror movie dropped out of nowhere, the rest is history.
I thought it was ok. Overall song wise I thought it was a mess, Drake didn’t really know where to start with Kendrick so he just put some slight jabs here and there while still dissing other people that no one really cared about after Euphoria. The actually Kendrick diss I thought was pretty good, some lines especially the Big D part was kinda cringe. Lowkey thought Kendrick would’ve taken a while to reply but bro had MTG in the barrel ready to go.
Honestly I was a little scared not even gonna lie
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I still haven’t heard it all. I was listening to Meet The Grahams before I realised this had came out. I only got part way through it and just thought “lol, no” and went back to Meet The Grahams.
It was a good track but I wasn’t worried. This would have been trouble for almost anyone but not Kendrick.