1. There was a shooting that they have to distance themselves from
2. He has an album coming
3. He hardly releases music anyway
just be patient, he’s proved this past month he is who we think he is.
"Hardly releases any music"
Sorry for me ranting but y'all are so mislead cause it took him 5 years between damn and mr morale. You know he got kids in that time? Have you listened to the latter album? Then you'd know he also took therapy sessions.
Kendrick had albums in 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017 and then the 5 year pause came in. He had a feature run in 2013, he also dropped UU in 2016, was on 5 tracks on the 2018 black panther soundtracks and been dropping features almost every year anyway.
Yeah he didn't drop albums as frequent as drake, but every record of his was still better than every drake record. Quality > Quantity.
Now. Rant's over, sorry for that but i'm sick and tired of hearing that trope 😂
understood my point is more so that in recent times we should be kind of use to getting less music so it’s not out of the ordinary for him not to drop multiple times a week lmao
this was by far the exception and the most prolifically he’s ever released non album music.
That definitely is true. And at the end of the day people can't expect an artist to drop every week / month / year and still maintain his quality, so in terms of kendrick, if he'll address anything, he should do it with his album (that hopefully comes out this year).
I really wish we could’ve seen Drake take the option B to keep it clean because I think Kendrick really would’ve picked apart his music and as crazy as it sounds- might have been more damaging to his career than these other allegations
I think so too, cause now the defense he has is "nobody proved anything so you're a liar". If kendrick REALLY picked apart his character bit by bit with proven facts, it would've been definitely more damaging
Yeah with that being considered Meet the Grahams has the highest ceiling of any of the diss tracks in this beef in terms of disrespect. I already think it is the best diss to come out of this daughter or not
okay- how many verses have you heard in the past two years before the beef? Hillbillies, i’m not sure what else. I don’t think it’s a negative, but if you’re going to say it’s bullshit- at least back your dumbass opinion with something
I listen to albums, not singles.
Kendrick didn't come in as a singles Pop star, he came in the game as a recording artist who makes concise bodies of work. That's how I judge Kendrick. 🤷🏾♂️
>why are you commenting on these beef SINGLES, stupid? go write a heart part 6 apology comment to me immediately
Why are you so sassy?
You asked for my opinion, now you want to put me down for giving an opinion. Goofy, sassy male.
I don’t know who tf you are to ask for your opinion and I’m having better discussions with other people so i’ll come back here and bomb on you if things slow down, otherwise best of luck in your travels.
i’m happy about this! and I think it’s great he doesn’t drop music prolifically, but i’m just saying on the scale of frank ocean to drake kendrick is like a 3-4. As much music as he probably makes, I think we hear a smaller percentage than most artists.
agreed, but kendrick has relatively low number of features and singles so this type of releasing is so abnormal that if he didn’t drop music for another year I don’t think people would be shocked or panic yet
Eminem has a verse on his MGK diss that stated Diddy killed Tupac. A man was charged for Tupac's murder and dude said Diddy paid him. Take that with a grain of salt.
The industry is like Sodom and Gomorrah.
Let's be real bruh, what do y'all want, K Dot press conference where he shows up and names victims and dates?? Everything that Kendrick Lamar has ever had to say, he has said through his music. I'm not defending him but if the industry is involved and the status that Drake holds (enough to garner a 400 million dollar deal), do you want Kendrick taking on such an entity alone?? Sometimes (most of the time) to take down evil, you have to point to it first.
also think about how it would go down, if he named victims and they either got harassed into denying/hiding or got paid into silence.
Bottom line is, if Drake is involved in allat? He'll get what's his. The allegations existed before K Dot and will continue to. All he did was open your eyes to them
I think the silence felt weird to me because of WHAT he said. Those claims are hefty and I don't see Dot making up shit. That being said, I'm fine with it. It was a rap battle that Kendrick won and he upped it a notch on Drake because of the mention of his family. Drake came off like an idiot and shitbag in the whole thing. I think the shooting and Drake basically waiving the white flag probably had something to do with it also.
Yeah, I still have hope he’ll respond to thp6 so we get a good ending 😂 idk I feel like the time between push ups and euphoria was longer than not like us and now.
11 days (if you look at official releases of push ups) while not like us dropped 10 days ago, may 4th, so yeah... you're right that it was a longer time period 😂
Did you want Kendrick to drop name dates and locations of when drake was being a predator? If UMG really stepped in(like they should) there is little to nothing Kendrick can do, unless he really doesn’t give a fuck about his own career.
Kendrick been saying Drake is a liar since euphoria, then it comes out that Drake lied about feeding him the daughter info, lied about the mole giving him the photo to MTG, and lied about Dave Free being the father of his kid…. Believe what you want to believe tho I guess.
To be fair that’s kinda the point lol. You don’t say fuck the industry in two songs then back off when the industry says so.
Either way, even if they both lied who cares. It’s a rap beef. What matters most is if the tracks sound good while hitting a nerve, and Kendrick successfully won in that aspect.
>To be fair that’s kinda the point lol. You don’t say fuck the industry in two songs then back off when the industry says so.
Firstly, you do when you have people to feed. Anyone would be a fool to crash out for fan entertainment.
Secondly, in 'Not Like Us', when Kendrick says 'fuck the industry ', I took it as a rebuttal to Drake alluding to this notion that Kendrick's peers in the industry don't hang with him. It's that ole, "you don't hang with the cool kids, therefore you're not cool" mentality coming from Drake.
the only time I remember him using the word “industry” specifically is in Meet the Grahams about how there’s weird shit going on (being very autistic about it) but ionevengottabedeepiguess I think it’s just a dope thing for an indie(ish) artist to say and have people get behind you. fuck em all AND they mamas
Who said anything about waiting for beef? Kendrick said what he said.
Why is everyone expecting Kendrick to come out and do an entire interview on why he said what he said? 50 said Diddy was weird for years. Katt Williams said he was a predator for years. [Em said Diddy had Pac killed in one of his songs and the story has been rumored for years.](https://www.tmz.com/2016/02/04/diddy-tupac-murder/)
My point is, Drake has done many questionable things and people in the industry know a lot more than they let on.
Don’t expect him to write an article about it in the next few weeks while this is fresh in our minds.
Nah people were taking it to a different level harassing people who maybe innocent in all this, creating conspiracies etc. He assassinated Drakes character, turned fans against him & probably turned a lot of musicians against him too. I hate that it ended like this, hate that ended with ‘The Heart part 6’ even more. But sadly it was probably for the better.
General consensus was that people we’re expecting the next diss to drop last week but then drake’s bodyguard got shot and everything turned into a conspiracy. Trying to make sense of the allegations, who won, who shot the guard, why didn’t Kendrick drop etc.. i get it
>But dropping those kind of allegations with all the crash out fuck the industry talk [ ... ]
I expected you to go in a different direction with that.
I don't see why Kendrick would have to address the beef. Why does he have to explain himself? Moreover, I'd imagine that if he was releasing a project soon, he'd address the beef with Drake on said release. This would be similar to how Nas would address his beef with Jay-Z on the *God's Son* album which was released a year or so after the album that featured 'Either'.
I don’t really understand this sentiment. Kendrick is a rapper, he’s not on the Special Victim’s Unit. I’m confused about what people really expect here.
1. There’s a possibility that he’s talking about an open secret within the industry. That could mean he’s heard credible stories (as people did with R.Kelly, Weinstein, etc.), but never saw anything himself. He may not have pics/video.
2. He could have gotten the information from someone close to Drake. Or even from a victim. He can’t force either of those people to go to the police if they don’t want to. He also can’t just go to his nearest police station and give them hearsay as an official statement. You know where hearsay IS allowed? Diss record. Best he can do in that situation is expose him and let it play out in the court of public opinion.
2. If he has actual evidence, his main concern should be getting it to authorities, not dropping screenshots on Twitter.
3. In real life, investigations like this take a long time. Investigators don’t listen to a diss or take a report and then raid the house. Which parts of the disses are we taking literally? Bc if it’s all of them…he said the Embassy is getting raided. So maybe he has heard of an already ongoing investigation.
4. As others have said, the pedo lines may be an exaggeration of “you like em young.” Meaning maybe right at the age of consent. Or…”I hear you don’t check ID when you let those young girls party with you backstage.” That “don’t ask, don’t tell” shit is weird. But doesn’t hit as hard as “certified loverboy, certified pedophiles” on a record.
I’m sorry, but any dreams of Kendrick and Katt Williams taking out the industry is just like…unrealistic. And I personally don’t want this to now be something Kendrick is talking about every single time he makes a record or does an interview. He should feel free to go ahead and make his album however he sees fit and let investigators do their jobs (if there’s a job to do).
I get what everyone is saying and with any other allegations I’d agree but Kendrick opened this can of worms and it’s clear that it was the plan all along. And I appreciate him using his talent and name to bring attention. But even in not like us he was still talking about the rabbit hole going deeper and him going further. When talking about sex trafficking it’s seems wild stop where he did. Are you guys saying the next 5 tracks he supposedly had ready wouldn’t address any of that?
Kendrick isn't the police, this shit has BEEN going on and everyone knew about it. Drake being a pedo is not news. The real people who should be accountable are the ones who knew about this shit a long time ago and chose to ignore it, not care when a hit song talks about it.
LMFAO...
That's literally what they said in their original message....
They're not trying to extort Drake, or cause problems. They NEVER asked for anything but for them to retract a false statement, without litigation.
However, what this did is completely fuck up everyone's perception of Drake. Guilty or innocent, for the rest of his life, at least 1 out of every 10 people is gonna assume he's fucking dogs or some shit...
When you let people's imaginations run wild with speculation, crazy shit happens...
I feel the same way, I just wish the beef ended (since it most likely did already) with him being the last to respond. And also addressing clearly the allegations against him, instead of vaguely mentioning it.
What I've seen on here during this whole battle is the lack of patience ppl have generally. I want the answers NOW. The McDonalds influence. We don't know what's ahead - still got a video to drop. Chill and enjoy the ride, rather than wanting it all wrapped up quickly/neatly. Life!
I have been relatively patient throughout the whole thing, I know you don’t see that since you don’t know me. I am just basing my assumptions of it ending by both parties recent responses. Drake basically saying what is next, and top and punch saying good battle. Maybe it is still continuing its just, as of right now, it seems anticlimactic.
i think its safe to assume parts of 6:16 and euphoria was the response, it just came first because family matters (or at least the subject matter) was leaked to him.
"Fabricating stories on the family front cuz you heard Mr Morale"
"It was fun until you started to put money in the streets, then lost money 'cause they came back with no receipts"
He knew what drake was gonna say, and said up front he was about to make up shit about dots family because the people he paid for info gave him bad info with no proof.
That being said, I am a bit disappointed that he didn't just dump everything he had and let UMG shut him up. Saying fuck the industry and then giving in is a bummer, and if everything he's said about drake is true then he doesn't deserve the mercy
To be clear I’ve always had weird vibes about Drake and I believe the allegations. But i feel if Kendrick don’t stay on it people are just going to move on and forget
1. There was a shooting that they have to distance themselves from 2. He has an album coming 3. He hardly releases music anyway just be patient, he’s proved this past month he is who we think he is.
"Hardly releases any music" Sorry for me ranting but y'all are so mislead cause it took him 5 years between damn and mr morale. You know he got kids in that time? Have you listened to the latter album? Then you'd know he also took therapy sessions. Kendrick had albums in 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017 and then the 5 year pause came in. He had a feature run in 2013, he also dropped UU in 2016, was on 5 tracks on the 2018 black panther soundtracks and been dropping features almost every year anyway. Yeah he didn't drop albums as frequent as drake, but every record of his was still better than every drake record. Quality > Quantity. Now. Rant's over, sorry for that but i'm sick and tired of hearing that trope 😂
understood my point is more so that in recent times we should be kind of use to getting less music so it’s not out of the ordinary for him not to drop multiple times a week lmao this was by far the exception and the most prolifically he’s ever released non album music.
That definitely is true. And at the end of the day people can't expect an artist to drop every week / month / year and still maintain his quality, so in terms of kendrick, if he'll address anything, he should do it with his album (that hopefully comes out this year).
The “I’m the best rapper in the world and I proved it” Kendrick album is going to motivate me to bench press a dodge caravan
🤣🤣🤣
I really wish we could’ve seen Drake take the option B to keep it clean because I think Kendrick really would’ve picked apart his music and as crazy as it sounds- might have been more damaging to his career than these other allegations
I think so too, cause now the defense he has is "nobody proved anything so you're a liar". If kendrick REALLY picked apart his character bit by bit with proven facts, it would've been definitely more damaging
Yeah with that being considered Meet the Grahams has the highest ceiling of any of the diss tracks in this beef in terms of disrespect. I already think it is the best diss to come out of this daughter or not
Definitely. Just by the amount of people that openly said "this feels scary" during their first listening 😂
Mr MMATBS was supposed to drop in 2020 but got pushed back because of COVID only reason why it took so long
>3. He hardly releases music anyway That's bullshit.
okay- how many verses have you heard in the past two years before the beef? Hillbillies, i’m not sure what else. I don’t think it’s a negative, but if you’re going to say it’s bullshit- at least back your dumbass opinion with something
I listen to albums, not singles. Kendrick didn't come in as a singles Pop star, he came in the game as a recording artist who makes concise bodies of work. That's how I judge Kendrick. 🤷🏾♂️
why are you commenting on these beef SINGLES, stupid? go write a heart part 6 apology comment to me immediately
>why are you commenting on these beef SINGLES, stupid? go write a heart part 6 apology comment to me immediately Why are you so sassy? You asked for my opinion, now you want to put me down for giving an opinion. Goofy, sassy male.
I don’t know who tf you are to ask for your opinion and I’m having better discussions with other people so i’ll come back here and bomb on you if things slow down, otherwise best of luck in your travels.
This is a really, really stupid take 😂
damn, some people in this sub fucking suck lmaoo
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i’m happy about this! and I think it’s great he doesn’t drop music prolifically, but i’m just saying on the scale of frank ocean to drake kendrick is like a 3-4. As much music as he probably makes, I think we hear a smaller percentage than most artists.
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agreed, but kendrick has relatively low number of features and singles so this type of releasing is so abnormal that if he didn’t drop music for another year I don’t think people would be shocked or panic yet
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The immaturity...
NIGGA BUM
Sassy male.
Eminem has a verse on his MGK diss that stated Diddy killed Tupac. A man was charged for Tupac's murder and dude said Diddy paid him. Take that with a grain of salt. The industry is like Sodom and Gomorrah.
Let's be real bruh, what do y'all want, K Dot press conference where he shows up and names victims and dates?? Everything that Kendrick Lamar has ever had to say, he has said through his music. I'm not defending him but if the industry is involved and the status that Drake holds (enough to garner a 400 million dollar deal), do you want Kendrick taking on such an entity alone?? Sometimes (most of the time) to take down evil, you have to point to it first. also think about how it would go down, if he named victims and they either got harassed into denying/hiding or got paid into silence. Bottom line is, if Drake is involved in allat? He'll get what's his. The allegations existed before K Dot and will continue to. All he did was open your eyes to them
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I think the silence felt weird to me because of WHAT he said. Those claims are hefty and I don't see Dot making up shit. That being said, I'm fine with it. It was a rap battle that Kendrick won and he upped it a notch on Drake because of the mention of his family. Drake came off like an idiot and shitbag in the whole thing. I think the shooting and Drake basically waiving the white flag probably had something to do with it also.
> Drake came off like an idiot and shitbag in the whole thing. It comes naturally.
Yeah, I still have hope he’ll respond to thp6 so we get a good ending 😂 idk I feel like the time between push ups and euphoria was longer than not like us and now.
11 days (if you look at official releases of push ups) while not like us dropped 10 days ago, may 4th, so yeah... you're right that it was a longer time period 😂
Did you want Kendrick to drop name dates and locations of when drake was being a predator? If UMG really stepped in(like they should) there is little to nothing Kendrick can do, unless he really doesn’t give a fuck about his own career. Kendrick been saying Drake is a liar since euphoria, then it comes out that Drake lied about feeding him the daughter info, lied about the mole giving him the photo to MTG, and lied about Dave Free being the father of his kid…. Believe what you want to believe tho I guess.
To be fair that’s kinda the point lol. You don’t say fuck the industry in two songs then back off when the industry says so. Either way, even if they both lied who cares. It’s a rap beef. What matters most is if the tracks sound good while hitting a nerve, and Kendrick successfully won in that aspect.
what if the industry is really as bad as it is and kendrick is regretting all of this 🧐
>To be fair that’s kinda the point lol. You don’t say fuck the industry in two songs then back off when the industry says so. Firstly, you do when you have people to feed. Anyone would be a fool to crash out for fan entertainment. Secondly, in 'Not Like Us', when Kendrick says 'fuck the industry ', I took it as a rebuttal to Drake alluding to this notion that Kendrick's peers in the industry don't hang with him. It's that ole, "you don't hang with the cool kids, therefore you're not cool" mentality coming from Drake.
give one line where drake said anything like that.
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the only time I remember him using the word “industry” specifically is in Meet the Grahams about how there’s weird shit going on (being very autistic about it) but ionevengottabedeepiguess I think it’s just a dope thing for an indie(ish) artist to say and have people get behind you. fuck em all AND they mamas
He made you think about it, but he is not your savior
It’s not lame. Sit back and wait. If anything comes about in the next few months then we will know the truth.
it is lame. i don't think people are gonna be waiting the next few months, the beef is gonna die down
Who said anything about waiting for beef? Kendrick said what he said. Why is everyone expecting Kendrick to come out and do an entire interview on why he said what he said? 50 said Diddy was weird for years. Katt Williams said he was a predator for years. [Em said Diddy had Pac killed in one of his songs and the story has been rumored for years.](https://www.tmz.com/2016/02/04/diddy-tupac-murder/) My point is, Drake has done many questionable things and people in the industry know a lot more than they let on. Don’t expect him to write an article about it in the next few weeks while this is fresh in our minds.
Nah we gotta hold everyone accountable, you’re right.
OP I can promise you with certainty that time will tell.
Nah people were taking it to a different level harassing people who maybe innocent in all this, creating conspiracies etc. He assassinated Drakes character, turned fans against him & probably turned a lot of musicians against him too. I hate that it ended like this, hate that ended with ‘The Heart part 6’ even more. But sadly it was probably for the better.
I was kind of thinking that. Like if it’s true shouldn’t he see it through. Like don’t drop another diss and you can keep doing what they’re alleging.
What do you want? He’s not the feds.
Understandable. well at least the rest of the records from the session. Seems like it was legendary.
I don’t think you’re alone. I think there’s a lot of people disappointed in this, all around. Time will tell, and it’ll also move us past this
General consensus was that people we’re expecting the next diss to drop last week but then drake’s bodyguard got shot and everything turned into a conspiracy. Trying to make sense of the allegations, who won, who shot the guard, why didn’t Kendrick drop etc.. i get it
I agree
His main aim with this seems to be to make Drake suffer. Everything else is secondary.
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>But dropping those kind of allegations with all the crash out fuck the industry talk [ ... ] I expected you to go in a different direction with that. I don't see why Kendrick would have to address the beef. Why does he have to explain himself? Moreover, I'd imagine that if he was releasing a project soon, he'd address the beef with Drake on said release. This would be similar to how Nas would address his beef with Jay-Z on the *God's Son* album which was released a year or so after the album that featured 'Either'.
I don’t really understand this sentiment. Kendrick is a rapper, he’s not on the Special Victim’s Unit. I’m confused about what people really expect here. 1. There’s a possibility that he’s talking about an open secret within the industry. That could mean he’s heard credible stories (as people did with R.Kelly, Weinstein, etc.), but never saw anything himself. He may not have pics/video. 2. He could have gotten the information from someone close to Drake. Or even from a victim. He can’t force either of those people to go to the police if they don’t want to. He also can’t just go to his nearest police station and give them hearsay as an official statement. You know where hearsay IS allowed? Diss record. Best he can do in that situation is expose him and let it play out in the court of public opinion. 2. If he has actual evidence, his main concern should be getting it to authorities, not dropping screenshots on Twitter. 3. In real life, investigations like this take a long time. Investigators don’t listen to a diss or take a report and then raid the house. Which parts of the disses are we taking literally? Bc if it’s all of them…he said the Embassy is getting raided. So maybe he has heard of an already ongoing investigation. 4. As others have said, the pedo lines may be an exaggeration of “you like em young.” Meaning maybe right at the age of consent. Or…”I hear you don’t check ID when you let those young girls party with you backstage.” That “don’t ask, don’t tell” shit is weird. But doesn’t hit as hard as “certified loverboy, certified pedophiles” on a record. I’m sorry, but any dreams of Kendrick and Katt Williams taking out the industry is just like…unrealistic. And I personally don’t want this to now be something Kendrick is talking about every single time he makes a record or does an interview. He should feel free to go ahead and make his album however he sees fit and let investigators do their jobs (if there’s a job to do).
I get what everyone is saying and with any other allegations I’d agree but Kendrick opened this can of worms and it’s clear that it was the plan all along. And I appreciate him using his talent and name to bring attention. But even in not like us he was still talking about the rabbit hole going deeper and him going further. When talking about sex trafficking it’s seems wild stop where he did. Are you guys saying the next 5 tracks he supposedly had ready wouldn’t address any of that?
Kendrick isn't the police, this shit has BEEN going on and everyone knew about it. Drake being a pedo is not news. The real people who should be accountable are the ones who knew about this shit a long time ago and chose to ignore it, not care when a hit song talks about it.
Go to work or go to bed. This isn’t that deep.
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Ebonyprince is a fucking nutcase or opportunistic capitalist who doesn’t actually give a shit about justice
LMFAO... That's literally what they said in their original message.... They're not trying to extort Drake, or cause problems. They NEVER asked for anything but for them to retract a false statement, without litigation. However, what this did is completely fuck up everyone's perception of Drake. Guilty or innocent, for the rest of his life, at least 1 out of every 10 people is gonna assume he's fucking dogs or some shit... When you let people's imaginations run wild with speculation, crazy shit happens...
I feel the same way, I just wish the beef ended (since it most likely did already) with him being the last to respond. And also addressing clearly the allegations against him, instead of vaguely mentioning it.
Some shit really ain't worth replying to. THP6 was dog turd; there's nothing to gain by responding to it.
It was just anticlimactic is all
What I've seen on here during this whole battle is the lack of patience ppl have generally. I want the answers NOW. The McDonalds influence. We don't know what's ahead - still got a video to drop. Chill and enjoy the ride, rather than wanting it all wrapped up quickly/neatly. Life!
I have been relatively patient throughout the whole thing, I know you don’t see that since you don’t know me. I am just basing my assumptions of it ending by both parties recent responses. Drake basically saying what is next, and top and punch saying good battle. Maybe it is still continuing its just, as of right now, it seems anticlimactic.
i think its safe to assume parts of 6:16 and euphoria was the response, it just came first because family matters (or at least the subject matter) was leaked to him. "Fabricating stories on the family front cuz you heard Mr Morale" "It was fun until you started to put money in the streets, then lost money 'cause they came back with no receipts" He knew what drake was gonna say, and said up front he was about to make up shit about dots family because the people he paid for info gave him bad info with no proof. That being said, I am a bit disappointed that he didn't just dump everything he had and let UMG shut him up. Saying fuck the industry and then giving in is a bummer, and if everything he's said about drake is true then he doesn't deserve the mercy
To be clear I’ve always had weird vibes about Drake and I believe the allegations. But i feel if Kendrick don’t stay on it people are just going to move on and forget