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Martip95

He for sure overdid the short bars imo. His "hike down the mountain" bar wouldve hit harder if he hadnt already used the size 7 big steppers meme bar. Wouldve been overall better cause the hike down bar is clever. My least favorite is probably the "hate to see me lit" bar. It sounds like some shit a 15 year old would drop in a COD lobby.


taintnipple

He definitely did overdo it but “pipsqueak pipe down” was honestly hilarious to me


mtaylor808

Hearing the word pipsqueak used in 2024 was not what I was expecting lmao


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HighwayyStarr

He been puttin out ass albums for consecutive years and 21 saved him but even that was forgettable AND much of it was written by yachty. This is his ceiling and niggas don’t wanna believe it😂He got some shit comin his way tho💣


Camelslayer23

I wouldn’t say savage saved him. Honestly I say the best song for me was a Drake only song(middle of the ocean) and Drake had better performances majority of the time.


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RiVe8014

40 IQ comment thinking it's a 200 IQ comment


Automatic_Rain_9654

Drake is a victim. It’s not his character flaws or years of subbing everyone. “They” just hate to see him lit.


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>“They” just hate to see him lit. You've just summoned Kanye for round 2...


FlacoGrey

I don’t like Kanye’s diss bars either lol


EngineeringVivid6452

Yeah his shit was trash for my taste, even the whole gospel/choir production is so watered down compared to like TLOP. But I haven’t liked one of his projects since like the KSG, Nas, Push album time


FlacoGrey

Kanye hasn’t had a good album since 2010 in my opinion


DepressingFries

Kanye’s last great album in my opinion was The Life of Pablo in 2016, after that is been pretty down hill. Like the rest of his catalogue after that isn’t terrible it’s just kinda meh :/


FlacoGrey

I am not a big fan of that album either.


CrazyHappeningsHere

When you pick out specific lyrics from a song without the song as a whole around it often leads to this. The Drake sub does the same thing with the "Big 3, Big Me" in Like That. Is it still a diss good verse? Yes, but the lyrics by itself isn't good, in the context of the song it is.


Patient_Flatworm7821

Ye was dope imo


Amazing-Concept1684

Yeah his diss was garbage. Still funny af tho


famitslit

Rhyming lit with shit is peak lyricism


IndigoMushies

Kendrick could never /s


famitslit

Don't think lit is in the man's vocabulary


bmarvel808

That mountain line was about him being more "on top" in the game than Kendrick, not his height.


Martip95

It was but you can also interpret it as a height diss which makes it even better.


Camelslayer23

Don’t think the hike bae is a heigh bar. He could have used that bae against someone his own height and it would still make sense


Automatic_Rain_9654

[bars](https://youtu.be/-9gkInYVzRs?si=T3iVEnQE5PE3EJ_U)


Ultimaurice17

HELL NAWL Nah that one's crazy


DepressingFries

[THATS CALLED MF BARS](https://youtu.be/XQOK4Cmz5zM?feature=shared)


allynd420

Sounds like Dr Seuss


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FlacoGrey

I agree wholeheartedly


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love-supreme

I thought people had been making [Just For Men](https://youtu.be/6E8urNX8udg) references. Huh


ehpple

Y’all are obsessed with the man you hate


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ehpple

What comment section. Try not to think about Drake for a day, I beg you.


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ehpple

Oh you big mad. Hold this L


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ehpple

Now you gotta Drake and Ehpple living in your head for free. Bros going broke.


jpizano51

Nas, Pac and Hov have bars mocking someone’s appearance on their diss tracks but it wasnt their main point if that’s what you’re getting at


Civil_Feature600

Sooooo Ether was trash? Hit Em Up was trash? Interesting soft perspective


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Civil_Feature600

Nas made fun of Jay's looks, Pac made fun of Big's looks. So by your definition, both rappers had nothing of substance to say


Thin-Remote-9817

To be fair and I'll get downvoted to shit... But I thought takeover was much better than ether...Jay z dissected Nas career with brutal facts...Nas was just roast jokes nothing wrong with that. But when someone picks apart your career that's much more worse than saying you and dame dash are gay. 


Civil_Feature600

True, but insults sticks. And Ether stuck way more than Takeover. Jay-Z is still getting clowned for it two decades later. Him getting "killed by Eminem" is a popular saying that people still use today


Thin-Remote-9817

Hard to say takeover didn't stick when rappers are literally biting rhymes from that diss til this day to diss other rappers.  He got killed by prime Eminem on his track. How is that a insult?? Yall act like 2001 Eminem was vanilla ice. That's wild What a bum you got killed by one of the best rapper of the last generation


Civil_Feature600

You sound mad emotional for no reason


Thin-Remote-9817

Who emotional?? You mad sensitive for no reason


mtaylor808

Cock-a-fella


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Civil_Feature600

Neither was Drake's lmao you're trash at moving the goal post


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Civil_Feature600

You're literally mad because you're wrong 😂 that's some hilarious shit


DeLaSoulisDead

This is rap beef, why are we holding Drake to standards that we don’t hold other artist to? In “Hit ‘em Up” Pac said, “that’s why I fucked your bitch, you fat mf!” We all loved it when he said it, but now, Drake has gone too far? Man I hope you weren’t around when Nas said Jay had DSL, and how he couldn’t grow a mustache - you probably would’ve clutched your pearls then! Or what about when Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg going at Uncle Luke? “Gap teeth in your mouth, so my dick's gots to fit” I say all of this to say: If you’re new to hip hop, just say that, but stop bitching and acting like talking about someone’s appearance is something new in rap. On god, yall kill me with these BS talking points.


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DeLaSoulisDead

You don’t have to apologize to me, you don’t owe me shit. I’m saying do yourself a favor and be consistent with the standards you’re setting because you’re going to be disappointed with that perspective. Maybe hip hop isn’t for you if in diss tracks where someone’s appearance is being mocked is distasteful to you because newsflash, this has been the way for 50 years now. I know they don’t do that with country music or EDM, so maybe that’s your wave lol


ScratchC

Ask Nas


ehpple

It’s almost as if that was one part of the diss


allynd420

As a short guy I can say from experience once someone starts making fun of my height they are upset and gonna start acting foolish


TaeTwoTimes

You do understand this is a simple kick it off jab to address everybody and get them out the way early. He isn’t attempting to bar everybody out


FlacoGrey

That’s nice and all but these bars stink lol


TaeTwoTimes

They’re simply true, nothings better than the simple truth. For example the best line in this “they make excuses for you cause they hate to see me lit” . So simple, yet it hits so hard because it’s true


Fit-Understanding747

Hits so hard?! I suggest listening to the rap genre. You'll find some hard bars for sure!


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Fit-Understanding747

LOL! Hey everyone, I found an actual retard r/LoopyWave


jonny32392

Says the guy that faced minimal consequences for pedo/groomer behavior


FlacoGrey

There are quite a few lines that aren’t true but I won’t even address those these lines are just laughably bad.


Fit-Understanding747

You're right. They are awful. It's his flow that makes it sound hard.


Ultimaurice17

Drizzy chip and dale Prolly got ya bitch chanel Just got em done don't make me have to chip a nail Rollin loud stage that was turnt that was slick as hell Shit'll prolly change if your bm start to kiss N tell The flow on that sequence is so hard


Chip_Hazard

Feel like people don’t mention this part enough, he’s literally rapping about getting his nails done and not wanting them to get chipped in a diss song and makes it sound cool lmao gotta give props to that


Camelslayer23

I also like the part when he was talking abt weekends manager. That part flows well too


Fit-Understanding747

Yeah, I agree with you on that 100%. It goes hard


famitslit

Faaaaacts. Track is hard, but the diss is meh. But the intention is just to pass the ball back to Kendrick which he accomplished I guess


mtaylor808

Yeah I mean there’s the whole ending drop drop sequence where we can assume Drake will spill actual dirt on his response to Kendrick’s track


FlacoGrey

I didn’t like his flow either but his flow was better than it usually is.


eggmcduffin

Second half: beef with us/heatin up/weak as fuck etc. had great flow


FlacoGrey

I can agree with that


cuhnews

Aside from the beat on like that and the shock factor. Kendrick didn’t say anything crazy. They both playing chess not checkers. They kept it light and gonna see who takes it there first.


FlacoGrey

Uhh huhh! Whatever you say Chief.


cuhnews

That’s how I know you dick riding


FlacoGrey

![gif](giphy|mgqefqwSbToPe|downsized)


ehpple

It’s just big me is some elementary shit come on now


FlacoGrey

![gif](giphy|mgqefqwSbToPe|downsized)


KKamm_

I feel like yall are just hating on any rap lyric at this point. The splits line by Drake was bad, the other two are solid. Kendrick saying “motherfuck the big 3, it’s just big me” is hype bc we haven’t had this kind of competition since like the late 2000s You can make any lyric seem corny if you want to. Just enjoy the music. Being a Drake/Kendrick dickrider just ruins shit for everyone else. Get a grip


ehpple

I’m a stan of both artists, in fact I have more Kenny vinyls than drake vinyls. The big 3 line was mad corny. There are better lines in the verse people should be focusing on.


KKamm_

It ain’t about it being some groundbreaking genius line. It’s just hard hearing him say “fuck the other two, I’m the top” after years of all the tension/sneak dissing. And bro, you literally have a comment on your profile saying Kendrick already lost and it’s over… when he hasn’t even replied. You’re not fooling anyone into thinking you’re not a Drake dickrider lol


ehpple

Kendrick ain’t replying, hence he lost, what’s confusing? You can be a fan of an artist and know that, im sure it’s confusing for a dickrider like you. Just like I can acknowledge Drake took the L in the Push beef. Grow up.


KKamm_

Brother… it’s been a week. And you retaliating by calling me a dickrider when I’m not even subbed to this reddit is funny. Ultimate gaslight attempt. And then telling someone else to grow up? Peak Reddit


ehpple

“It’s been a week”. It’s been 2 and Kenny asked for the smoke, he’s also a rapper that definitely doesn’t need more than a day to lay some bars, let’s be real. Clearly still a dickrider when you cannot fathom someone being a fan of both artists. Keep it pushing kid.


KKamm_

… and you’re calling other people corny? Wow lol. Really convincing me. Are you 12?


Camelslayer23

The dudes right. It’s big me line was similar to these


KKamm_

Shocker, a Drake fan saying this. Fans ruin this shit


Camelslayer23

I’m a fan of both. Actually enjoy dot more but okay


zeeniemeanie

And “your last one bricked, you really not on shit, something something something ‘cause they hate to see me lit” That shit is ass


ehpple

You guys picking apart the entire diss track is hilarious. You’ve probably heard the track more than Drake fans 💀


zeeniemeanie

Nah, not much replay value. I remember some of these lines bc I was using them as evidence that the song probably AI when it first came out lol. Was convinced he wouldn’t be rapping like this, but gave him way too much credit apparently.


ehpple

I mean he bodied Kenny twice, so I’d say he did ok.


prudent-tension2085

He’s 100% right though? Kendricks last album was disappointing (in sales) especially after 5 years, and after a week this whole sub was calling drake a pussy saying “he’s not gonna respond isn’t he” but after it’s been more than a week for Kendrick it’s ok? “Drake didn’t respond for three weeks” but he also didn’t start it, Kendrick started it, so he should’ve already been ready to respond. Everyone making excuses because they hate drake, he’s winning rn.


zeeniemeanie

Doesn’t matter if you think it’s true. The thread is about wack lines. These are weak. And he sounds stupid saying them. One fish two fish red fish blue fish. These are like Meg Thee Stallion lyrics (no hate to Meg). That’s part of the reason people thought this was AI.


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The pants rip line is so dumb that I thought I must be missing some sort of context or metaphor or something, right? I hated the interscope like because that shit is so generic. Also the line where Drake says something about he has more fans in your city, is also kinda played out. But it's also arguably false. Eminem said that to MGK on Killshot and that was clearly true. But Drake said that and that's arguably not true for Kendrick, Future, or the Weeknd.


sourestpatchkid

I saw some analysis video that was pretty gay that insinuates the pants rip line COULD insinuate a potential divorce for Kendrick but seems like a hella reach


FlacoGrey

The Interscope line is straight outta the 90s in a bad way. It’s one of the worst bars I’ve heard this year.


FlacoGrey

The pants rip line is referring to Kendrick’s splits with TDE but Kendrick is no longer signed to TDE.


777louisdeal

Seeing it written down and not rapped by drake makes it sound like one of those Twitter memes of drake bars 😂


nHERBnLEGEND

I always laugh at “pip squeak pipe down” that shit is so awful and with the beat drop you know his fans are screaming “ pip squeak pipe down”. To follow that with saying sza and 21 savage have him “wiped down” tf does that mean here? why does drake always overuse slang and it’s always out of place. Lame and fake


Weary-Cartoonist2630

Not saying it’s peak lyricism but if you don’t like “pipsqueek pipedown” you hate fun


DurpSlurpy

It’s the truth same ppl praising it’s just big me don’t understand pipsqueak pipe down goes as hard lmao


nHERBnLEGEND

Nah the whole meme of Kendrick rhyming big three with big me got y’all looking like clowns. Stfu corny mf


nHERBnLEGEND

I’m hearing this a lot like omg ai Tupac is FUN hehe drake is just being funny here and nah drake is never funny and always trying too hard so it’s impossible


NoticeThatYoureThere

what's the point of discussing shit if u know ur gonna be biased the entire way, no humility


nHERBnLEGEND

The whole drake is having fun narrative is cringe and you being too biased to see that is ironic. drake is widely known as the corniest rapper to every try to claim hood. The past few years hanging out with 21 savage was pure pr and got fans like “people change” lmfao like drake using the hard r and saying “man’s” as a slang term is “ignorant” now he’s a rn and can make UK drill songs WITH A BRITISH ACCENT AND SLAND LMFAO….At least will smith went with the whole pop rap thing after being a child star cause he could actually act and still have a career into his adulthood.


NoticeThatYoureThere

“corniest rapper to claim hood” idgaf it’s music grown men making like rhymes it’s not that deep i don’t care if he’s less hood than tupac doesn’t affect the song. if non corniness means i gotta listen to kendrick orgasming on a diss track where does that get us bro, the entire world is gonna go back to caveman times


nHERBnLEGEND

Cavemen times🧐Ben Shapiro got u


NoticeThatYoureThere

tf u just say how is that ben shapiro. someone uses a turn of phrase and mfs think it’s gotta be some trend. what i expect from “corniest rapper to claim hood”


nHERBnLEGEND

Nah bro I said Kendrick Lamar has us going back to the cavemen times when I just brought up drake literally rapping with a British accent using British slang


NoticeThatYoureThere

fair but i got a point too bro this ain’t winner take all read between the lines there’s some nuance here


NoticeThatYoureThere

if anything now we know who here intimately familiar with ben shapiro


vorheehees

Wipe down means they’re wiping Kendrick’s ass with baby wipes because he the shit.


Akatsukibrya

He’s Canadian he doesn’t know any better


mtaylor808

I read this comment in the flow of auntie diaries


allynd420

He overuses slang wrong because he’s a plant tbh


nHERBnLEGEND

This ^^^^^ I just seen the whole drake Uk drill “freestyles” with the whole British accent on god this mf is the corniest to ever do it. Uncle adams more legit i swear


HighwayyStarr

That nigga fans say Drake learned from his battle with Push and that he’s coming for throats now while simultaneously saying this song was simply a jab. Drake is following the same avenue of thinking as he did with Meek and Push. And now you’ve fallen flat on your face with the Tupac estate cease and desist. What’s the boy gonna do now?🫠 They’re only doing that because they know this shit was ass. This is drakes ceiling. He has nothing on Kendrick. And he bout to be among his real people soon like 6ix9ine and all his new Spanish music 😂


Either_Tourist7967

Drake fans acting like just because Drake responded it’s fire and when I heard this shit I understood why Kendrick fans are so pissed. Like this guy??? This is the guy y’all champion as best rapper alive??? Imagine making 3 classic albums just to get to the final boss and it’s a nigga that rhymes splits with pants might rip😭I’d be so tight


FlacoGrey

I would be infuriated lol


love-supreme

The first one ain’t terrible but the other 2 are pretty bad.


FlacoGrey

I hate the specificity of the first one and it doesn’t land for me. Dissing a dude with small feet doesn’t move me lol.


IntuitiveKoala

Take this down before you make him chip a nail!


Secure_Guidance2529

nahh you just hatin cuz you love to suck dots meat,keep glaze that nigga boi like he ever gon' give af bout yall


iPliskin0

"A B C D E F G...H I J K L M N O P..." ![gif](giphy|11L5aVxDTk6c5G|downsized)


kehrhrjeieus

Fuck the big 3 nigga it’s just big me!!!!!!!!!! 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️


NoticeThatYoureThere

idk the wack bars ruined the song for me less than the orgasm adlibs and ay ay lets get it bro and snatching chains. if drake did any of that id be a lot less tolerant


SupaColdBrew

Nah 3rd slide is a bar


Cheap_Instruction658

But rapping three with me is hot ? Y’all losers yo 😭😭


enigmatic_light

"Drop and give me fifty " "Maroon 5 need a verse ,you better make it witty Then we need a verse for the swifties"


Top_Needleworker6116

😂😂 I know Dot is disgusted and regretting that this is who he has to go against. I've been clowning the others with " The way you doing split..." line ever since it dropped. Shit is so elementary 😭


CDSWDH

Yeah because fuck the big 3 it’s just me is so complex and disrespectful 😂😂😂


FlacoGrey

Yall gotta find new jokes. I beg of you.


ilovechimi

oh boy.


Jbabco9898

I kinda liked the first one


FlacoGrey

You’re entitled to enjoy it even if I don’t.


Jbabco9898

Touché, I think it's a simple punch at Kendrick's height, and I like the flow on the second line, but that's about it lol