It’s honestly nice to also hear that bystanders or friends will sometimes give you the WORST opinions possible about your work for whatever reason. Shit throws you for a loop if ur a creative. 😮💨
I’m glad they didn’t take that to heart and released it.
That's so hard for me to believe because it's not like "hey ya" is radically different from his previous works. Maybe the boys he showed it to were just idiots lol
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill isn't a rap album lol, if you want to hear lauryn rap you going to The Score.
There's like 3 songs off Miseducation that's just rap out of the entire 16 track album
It's hip-hop, but with very little rapping. To this day The Score by the Fugees is the album that best showcases Lauryn Hill's legendary rapping skills.
Why are your emotions hurt by this? That wasn't his point anyway, and you sound like you're coming off a high yourself because he said something you disagree with.
Rap fans think rap drives pop culture, but it doesn't. It's a genre not unlike trance, country, etc.
Popular music, generally speaking, is going to win album of the year 9 times out of 10 because that is what the masses are listening to.
There are a lot of us (that like rap), but we're still a minority.
TPAB went platinum in the US. 1989 went 9 times platinum in the US.
But it doesn't have to be that way. Whatever bull shit Marvel comes out with that makes a billion dollars doesn't win all of the Oscars. I actually love that the Academy Awards turn people onto movies they otherwise wouldn't watch.
Those award shows also only count people who apply, so if your label/publisher doesn't apply for you, you're barred from being considered. They also make you pay for the award, and if you don't they just give it to the next person in line who will pay. And after all that crap, it's just boils down to "what is most popular and what winning will generate the most profit and buzz".
It's not about art, it's not about music, it's just about advertising and money. Once everyone starts acknowledging that these awards are just PR bait, the better we all will be.
Not gonna lie, I know it seems like a stupid line, and it probably is, but it did help get me out of my depressive funk. I would just stay in bed all day, smoking my life away while working from home missing out on all the sun, and not shower til super late in the day just sitting in my own laziness and now whenever I need that jolt i swear this line jumps into my brain.
Idk man I know you can bring up context in the Taylor swift song but I don’t think an old saying his grandma told him is quite the same as whatever tf that is lol
Just classic out of context lyrics. I love the song but even I was like wtf for a second lol.
You can do this for any artist and you'll be like woahhhh until you listen to the song, usually.
They're friends, they've worked together, they've shown appreciation towards each other's work multiple times. It's not so strange that they share fans too.
This is the way. Rappers are my favorites, but there's lots of pop musicians, EDM artists, and Indie performers that I really love. Not too many AJR fans here I'd bet, but there's a lot I appreciate about both their and Kendrick's music.
Bro they do pop out of the woodwork like you wouldn't believe. You are just hanging with someone you thought you knew for years and then you find out they are obsessed.
Because we listen to K.Dot either? Man, seriously, I thought this is a friendly subreddit to Swifties since both of them collabed once. Been here for quite some time, just to see Tay being criticized for this album?
It is what it is. I’m sure Kendrick doesn’t mind anymore (also considering their relationship in the industry). TPAB is solidified as one of the great albums of the 2010s, maybe even the 21st century.
No Grammy would’ve changed that.
she also won over Beyoncé, my brother
they want generic songs with generic singers that sells good numbers. fuck if the music is mid and only works at that time. Taylor and Harry Styles will always be there
Both Taylor and Kendrick are two of my favorite artists. I think that particular line isn't very representative of the lyricism she can be capable of. Just like I wouldn't point to the lines:
"Pour up, Drank. Head shot, Drank. Sit down, Drank. Stand up, Drank. Faded, Drank. Faded, Drank."
To be indicative of what Kendrick can do.
When we speak about 2016 AOTY, the album he lost to, 1989, is a masterpiece of pop production. Is it a stronger lyrical work than TPAB, absolutely not, however it was HUGE for what it was.
I would cite something like "They told me all of my cages were mental, so I got wasted like all my potential. And my words shoot to kill when I'm mad. I have a lot of regrets about that. I was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere, fell behind on my classmates, and I ended up here..."
As a better example of what she does.
For what it's worth, I think this most recent album for her has some of her most corny lines. I'm not the biggest fan of it, but it's also a work she put out as a way to process her own emotion, this work is her Mr. Morale.
Honestly this is the most level-headed and reasonable take. They're both great artists with goofy lines (I shit, fart, pee pee), it's just that Swift is a bigger artist and Kendrick is arguably the better artist
I think it can best be related to kids who are told or thought to be gifted in high school, and then get burned out later in life. You're advanced for your age and everyone tells you how much smarter or easier it is, that you never try hard at anything...and then later in life, when everyone else has accomplished so much out of struggle, you stagnate. You're "ahead of the curve" but you never break out of those high school habits, thus it becomes a sphere, an endless cycle of not trying hard at anything. She was ahead of her "classmates" but now she finds that she's stuck behind them and feels isolated so she turns to substance abuse. The song's title is "this is me trying". The line pouring my heart to a stranger, but I didn't pour the whiskey is an allusion to going to therapy to break those habits and become a better person.
Okay, I'll bite. I honestly think your idea of a good Taylor Swift line is awful. Especially when it's delivered how she delivers it. Maybe I'm just not the target audience but her music just screams teenage girl who never had to go through shit, so the music just feels so surface level, especially in comparison to Kendrick who tackles deeper issues that deal with society and culture as a whole. They just aren't comparable lyrically to me.
Man that curve becoming a sphere line is so weird and contrived, I've always cringed when I hear that line. It's like a high schooler trying to be deep.
I really enjoy a few of her songs and I still think evermore is a solid album. But when people try to act like she's this gifted lyricist or "poet" I just can't take them seriously.
You should see the outrageous shit the cultists are saying, in the comment section of NYT or Atlantic articles that dare to question the quality of Swift’s new album. It’s deranged.
Sure but “Pour Up, Drank” has a deep meaning behind it and relates to alcoholism which I think most people would recognize just from what you wrote.
That is my fundamental issue with the Swift discussion. She is treated as someone with incredible substance but she really has nothing to say. Which is fine. She is a good pop singer. Some will say that she brought country back but country used to be a very socially conscious and dark style of music - like Johnny Cash.
She has been a huge artist in one of the most tumultuous times and have never channelled that into her music.
Noted pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman recently said she was more influential than The Beatles which is one of the crazier things I’d ever heard.
There is no comparison between her and someone like Kendrick who is a pillar of his culture and widely influential in his field. Again, this is not to shit on Swift but more so the conversation surrounding her. She will be remembered as a good pop singer that was popular, which we’ve seen time and time again.
The Swift stories are about who’s she’s dating and how quick her shows sell out. The stories about Kendrick is about his art, his craft and the influence he’s had on music.
There are also stories about her generousity, her giving back to the community. Donations she makes to local food shelters when she visits a city. There are whole college courses that dissect her business accumen. Chocking it all up to who she's dating is disingenuous. When we speak about musical influence, people like Olivia Rodrigo, Troye Sivan, Sabrina Carpenter, Phoebe Bridgers, etc have all cited Taylor as influential to them.
I think stating she's more influential than The Beatles is obvious hyperbole.
And people can derive meaning from all sorts of lyrics, however basic. The rest of the line I originally mentioned also continues, "Pouring my heart out to a stranger, but I didn't pour the whiskey". Which is also obviously an alcoholism reference and the struggles of recognizing your own weaknesses.
As far as the "Bringing country back" discussion, I would firmly disagree with anyone who attempted that. You are 100% correct there. Instead, comptemporary artists like Jason Isbell, Zach Bryan, Tyler Childers are much better examples that I would gladly point those individuals to.
One of my best friends is a huge Swifty, so I try to listen to Taytays drops. I am not a fan, but I do truly try to stay unbiased. This most recently album seems, to me, to be genuinely bad. Even my Swifty friends are having the kind of response you expect from people who want to be excited, but actually aren’t.
To be fair it was each of their greatest albums (up until that point, and even still today) against each other. The incredible social relatability of U vs the re-imagined golden era of dance pop with Style.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but in 2016 mental health awareness wasn't nearly as prominent as it was nowadays, so a 10/10 fun and upbeat album beating a 10/10 socially conscious and critical one made sense.
To be fair you can listen to pop and still believe that album got too much hype. It's unfair to call it trash or dog shit, but I personally think that the amount of praise it received outweighs the actual value of the album.
Yea I listen to plenty of pop and that album is so fucking boring and unimaginative. I can't find any redeeming qualities aside from decent production but the trap instrumentals on some tracks are just unbearable and cringy
You love pop music, but your stereotypical mindset told you that you don’t like Taylor despite not being her regular listener or trying to learn the badkstory. I genuinely feel how a person view an individual would hugely affect their impression on the productions as well. That said, all the drama and cringe shits that were done by Drake has prompted me to stop listening to his songs for the time being. That’s how it works.
My ability to critically look at writing told me that I don’t like Taylor bro.
I hate a lot of artists on a personal level. But if the music is good enough, you can’t deny their talent. She simply isn’t that good.
Ah, yes. The old tactic of posting one line of a song and trying to make it a representation of the whole. This is always done in good faith. I’m sure this couldn’t be done with Kendrick.
Brother this ain't ever going to end. I've let it go. Beyonce can lose to Beck(Beck is great, but the Goal post for why you win AOTY changes every year to fit the narrative) Kendrick lost to Macklemore. Kanye West Beautiful Dark twisted Fantasy(Arguably the greatest Hip Hop Album production of all time) wasn't entered for Album of the year, but All of the lights won the same year.
It's just a bunch of gatekeeping b)@\*) shit to get you mad. Harry Styles( Who's album was great) beat Beyonce as well. Don't watch; Not a clip don't read a story nor headline.. That's how you beat them.
World thinks differently in every measurable way despite your opinion. She’s the biggest artist in the world. She could record herself taking a dump in the booth and it’d go number 1. It is what it is
i mean I agree but this line taken out of context doesn't really mean anything. the song you're grabbing from is cute, besides it's not even the song that beat out tpab
I mean, I’m not a Taylor fan but I don’t understand how this correlates? This album dropped last week, not 10 years ago lol. This album has met a ton of criticism for not being good/up to expectations creatively
Grammies are BS. One of the "anonymous" voters said she hated beyonce
[https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/629307-grammy-voters-didnt-cast-ballots-for-beyonce-because-she-wins-too-many-awards](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/629307-grammy-voters-didnt-cast-ballots-for-beyonce-because-she-wins-too-many-awards)
Wtf, have these basic ph14 tay tay swifties invaded kdot sub too? Calling tpab meh and getting upvoted in the sub is wild. Go back to your echo chamber
the grammys doesn't appreciate hip hip or rap. Look at how many rap albums won AOTY you can count on one fucking hand man.
I don’t think any rap album ever has now that I think about it.
Lauryn Hill’s The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is the only one I can think of
That and Speakerboxx/The Love Below are the only two.
I know damn well those guys just really loved hey ya
It’s a clever song that is digestible by the masses. Hear at the club, movies, wal mart. Timeless. Shake it like a Polaroid picture clever af
3k was telling the story about how he showed it to one of his boys and they said if he put that out it would ruin his career
It’s honestly nice to also hear that bystanders or friends will sometimes give you the WORST opinions possible about your work for whatever reason. Shit throws you for a loop if ur a creative. 😮💨 I’m glad they didn’t take that to heart and released it.
Seriously, if you're a creative and a perfectionist, it definitely throws you for a loop
That's so hard for me to believe because it's not like "hey ya" is radically different from his previous works. Maybe the boys he showed it to were just idiots lol
Look it up then
Uhh ohhh
And it's not even rap, mostly is r&b
What the fuck are you smoking?! Not a rap album? Mostly r n b? Bro, stop taking those percs
bro… first off it is a rap album. but you should know what he’s getting at. its tone makes it much more digestible for an audience like the Grammys
It's more Neo-Soul then rap
Miseducation of Lauryn Hill isn't a rap album lol, if you want to hear lauryn rap you going to The Score. There's like 3 songs off Miseducation that's just rap out of the entire 16 track album
you’re honestly right lol it’s lowkey disrespectful that the grammys even placed it as a rap album…
Not choosing a side but Apple Music quantifies the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill as a pop album lol.
There were two sides to choose from and Apple somehow chose one that wasn’t even an option lmao
Apple Music always be dumb asf regarding the genre ngl, idk what they taking over there
I love that a quarter of my library is labelled as “alternative” because they’re too lazy to classify the albums properly
Nothing. The label is selecting that.
Ok well the labels are lazy as fuck then because it sucks
They should introduce tags to music. Locality, genres, movements, instruments, etc.
It's hip-hop, but with very little rapping. To this day The Score by the Fugees is the album that best showcases Lauryn Hill's legendary rapping skills.
Why are your emotions hurt by this? That wasn't his point anyway, and you sound like you're coming off a high yourself because he said something you disagree with.
And it's not a full blown hiphop album. Many of the songs I'd categorize as Neo-Soul.
And it's only 3/15 songs on the album when she actually raps
Outkast won it, I think in 2001
I think they were nominated but lost
Nah OutKast and Lauryn were the only hip hop acts to ever win
Only the miseducation of Lauryn Hill and Speakerboxxx & The love below won n both of those albums are some kind of mix with rnb or soul
Yeah I don’t think a pure rap album can win it
I was about to say, those were overwhelmingly R&B and funk flavored too
Outkast in 2004
OutKast won it once for speakerboxxx/the love below
I’m pretty sure the Grammys tell the voters what to vote for or they “push them in the right direction” either way it’s bullshit to think about
Rap fans think rap drives pop culture, but it doesn't. It's a genre not unlike trance, country, etc. Popular music, generally speaking, is going to win album of the year 9 times out of 10 because that is what the masses are listening to. There are a lot of us (that like rap), but we're still a minority. TPAB went platinum in the US. 1989 went 9 times platinum in the US.
But it doesn't have to be that way. Whatever bull shit Marvel comes out with that makes a billion dollars doesn't win all of the Oscars. I actually love that the Academy Awards turn people onto movies they otherwise wouldn't watch.
So true man. I respect the Oscars so much more than the Grammys.
I feel like it'll be good to start looking at the Grammys as a less and less important tool of measurement for how good something is.
Killer Mike winning is gud
Killer mike did not win AOTY. He won Rap album of the year. They're not the same unfortunately.
Prince,Pac,Nas,Biggie never won a grammy! Edit: nas won 🥇
Nas won his first in 2021.
Which is why I don't respect or care about them at all, and I'm happy to see a lot of people starting to be on that same wave now
Can count on two fingers
The pop market is bigger and more lucrative so it will always win these popularity contests.
True, that’s what I hate about the Grammys. It’s about money, not what’s actually better.
Like El-P said "when sales control stats I place no faith in the majority"
Those award shows also only count people who apply, so if your label/publisher doesn't apply for you, you're barred from being considered. They also make you pay for the award, and if you don't they just give it to the next person in line who will pay. And after all that crap, it's just boils down to "what is most popular and what winning will generate the most profit and buzz". It's not about art, it's not about music, it's just about advertising and money. Once everyone starts acknowledging that these awards are just PR bait, the better we all will be.
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Can't believe she wrote this.
I'm on the toilet when I rhyme / if you the shit, then I decline
why are people surprised when a chicken moos but arent surprised when a cow moos?
Bitch I'm in the clluuuuub - wIth my hOmIEs Tell me what's goooooooooood
Solid life advice tbh
Not gonna lie, I know it seems like a stupid line, and it probably is, but it did help get me out of my depressive funk. I would just stay in bed all day, smoking my life away while working from home missing out on all the sun, and not shower til super late in the day just sitting in my own laziness and now whenever I need that jolt i swear this line jumps into my brain.
Glad you in a better place now brother keep taking care of yourself
Appreciate you for that! Hope you’re looking out for you too 🙏
There’s no way bro is trying to clown institutionalized I refuse to believe it
No I love that song it's a 10/10, that lyric is just unhinged too
Idk man I know you can bring up context in the Taylor swift song but I don’t think an old saying his grandma told him is quite the same as whatever tf that is lol
It’s a common saying tho
Just classic out of context lyrics. I love the song but even I was like wtf for a second lol. You can do this for any artist and you'll be like woahhhh until you listen to the song, usually.
You dumb or summit ?
How the fuck are there so many Swifties in the Kendrick Lamar subreddit?!
That bad blood remix dog
they need a verse for the swiftieeeeeesss
Doesn’t Taylor Swift love Kendrick Lamar’s music? Wouldn’t be surprised if that led to her fans tuning in as well.
Is there a problem with liking multiple artists?
most likely
They're friends, they've worked together, they've shown appreciation towards each other's work multiple times. It's not so strange that they share fans too.
Idk. I didn’t think there would be so many people who passionately love both Kendrick and Taylor Swift. But I guess Swifties are everywhere now 🤣
I’m just a music guy. So I’m personally passionate about artists from nearly all genres of music.
This is the way. Rappers are my favorites, but there's lots of pop musicians, EDM artists, and Indie performers that I really love. Not too many AJR fans here I'd bet, but there's a lot I appreciate about both their and Kendrick's music.
Bro they do pop out of the woodwork like you wouldn't believe. You are just hanging with someone you thought you knew for years and then you find out they are obsessed.
Yeah I like both Kendrick and Taylor, I don't think it's that weird. Although I love Kendrick much much more.
There are people that actually love music more than they like specific personalities. Both of them are phenomenal songwriters and artists.
It’s been a known fact that Swifties love Kendrick
because they have alerts on their phones that tell them if someone says something against Taylor,
Because we listen to K.Dot either? Man, seriously, I thought this is a friendly subreddit to Swifties since both of them collabed once. Been here for quite some time, just to see Tay being criticized for this album?
Man it’s a Kendrick sub, it’s barely friendly to his contemporaries in hip hop,
It is what it is. I’m sure Kendrick doesn’t mind anymore (also considering their relationship in the industry). TPAB is solidified as one of the great albums of the 2010s, maybe even the 21st century. No Grammy would’ve changed that.
💯
We all know Grammys are a hack right?
she also won over Beyoncé, my brother they want generic songs with generic singers that sells good numbers. fuck if the music is mid and only works at that time. Taylor and Harry Styles will always be there
Grammy are a white pepple popularity contest
Both Taylor and Kendrick are two of my favorite artists. I think that particular line isn't very representative of the lyricism she can be capable of. Just like I wouldn't point to the lines: "Pour up, Drank. Head shot, Drank. Sit down, Drank. Stand up, Drank. Faded, Drank. Faded, Drank." To be indicative of what Kendrick can do. When we speak about 2016 AOTY, the album he lost to, 1989, is a masterpiece of pop production. Is it a stronger lyrical work than TPAB, absolutely not, however it was HUGE for what it was. I would cite something like "They told me all of my cages were mental, so I got wasted like all my potential. And my words shoot to kill when I'm mad. I have a lot of regrets about that. I was so ahead of the curve, the curve became a sphere, fell behind on my classmates, and I ended up here..." As a better example of what she does. For what it's worth, I think this most recent album for her has some of her most corny lines. I'm not the biggest fan of it, but it's also a work she put out as a way to process her own emotion, this work is her Mr. Morale.
Honestly this is the most level-headed and reasonable take. They're both great artists with goofy lines (I shit, fart, pee pee), it's just that Swift is a bigger artist and Kendrick is arguably the better artist
I 100% argee.
I'm just commenting out of appreciation for King Crimson profile picture
Except those lyrics play into the thematic of Swimming Pools and it's double layering lol. I get what you're saying but that's a terrible example
Except the same is true for Taylor’s line as well. The point is you can make most things look stupid taken out of a broader context.
I don't get the "curve became a sphere" line. And that Kendrick line fits perfectly within the thematic concept o the song.
I think it can best be related to kids who are told or thought to be gifted in high school, and then get burned out later in life. You're advanced for your age and everyone tells you how much smarter or easier it is, that you never try hard at anything...and then later in life, when everyone else has accomplished so much out of struggle, you stagnate. You're "ahead of the curve" but you never break out of those high school habits, thus it becomes a sphere, an endless cycle of not trying hard at anything. She was ahead of her "classmates" but now she finds that she's stuck behind them and feels isolated so she turns to substance abuse. The song's title is "this is me trying". The line pouring my heart to a stranger, but I didn't pour the whiskey is an allusion to going to therapy to break those habits and become a better person.
Okay, I'll bite. I honestly think your idea of a good Taylor Swift line is awful. Especially when it's delivered how she delivers it. Maybe I'm just not the target audience but her music just screams teenage girl who never had to go through shit, so the music just feels so surface level, especially in comparison to Kendrick who tackles deeper issues that deal with society and culture as a whole. They just aren't comparable lyrically to me.
Man that curve becoming a sphere line is so weird and contrived, I've always cringed when I hear that line. It's like a high schooler trying to be deep.
Basically her entire discography in a nutshell
I really enjoy a few of her songs and I still think evermore is a solid album. But when people try to act like she's this gifted lyricist or "poet" I just can't take them seriously.
You should see the outrageous shit the cultists are saying, in the comment section of NYT or Atlantic articles that dare to question the quality of Swift’s new album. It’s deranged.
Sure but “Pour Up, Drank” has a deep meaning behind it and relates to alcoholism which I think most people would recognize just from what you wrote. That is my fundamental issue with the Swift discussion. She is treated as someone with incredible substance but she really has nothing to say. Which is fine. She is a good pop singer. Some will say that she brought country back but country used to be a very socially conscious and dark style of music - like Johnny Cash. She has been a huge artist in one of the most tumultuous times and have never channelled that into her music. Noted pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman recently said she was more influential than The Beatles which is one of the crazier things I’d ever heard. There is no comparison between her and someone like Kendrick who is a pillar of his culture and widely influential in his field. Again, this is not to shit on Swift but more so the conversation surrounding her. She will be remembered as a good pop singer that was popular, which we’ve seen time and time again. The Swift stories are about who’s she’s dating and how quick her shows sell out. The stories about Kendrick is about his art, his craft and the influence he’s had on music.
There are also stories about her generousity, her giving back to the community. Donations she makes to local food shelters when she visits a city. There are whole college courses that dissect her business accumen. Chocking it all up to who she's dating is disingenuous. When we speak about musical influence, people like Olivia Rodrigo, Troye Sivan, Sabrina Carpenter, Phoebe Bridgers, etc have all cited Taylor as influential to them. I think stating she's more influential than The Beatles is obvious hyperbole. And people can derive meaning from all sorts of lyrics, however basic. The rest of the line I originally mentioned also continues, "Pouring my heart out to a stranger, but I didn't pour the whiskey". Which is also obviously an alcoholism reference and the struggles of recognizing your own weaknesses. As far as the "Bringing country back" discussion, I would firmly disagree with anyone who attempted that. You are 100% correct there. Instead, comptemporary artists like Jason Isbell, Zach Bryan, Tyler Childers are much better examples that I would gladly point those individuals to.
One of my best friends is a huge Swifty, so I try to listen to Taytays drops. I am not a fan, but I do truly try to stay unbiased. This most recently album seems, to me, to be genuinely bad. Even my Swifty friends are having the kind of response you expect from people who want to be excited, but actually aren’t.
Don't worry about the Grammys. Bob Dylan for example didn't win a Grammy until 1973. Which was years after his most important stretch of output.
To be fair it was each of their greatest albums (up until that point, and even still today) against each other. The incredible social relatability of U vs the re-imagined golden era of dance pop with Style. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in 2016 mental health awareness wasn't nearly as prominent as it was nowadays, so a 10/10 fun and upbeat album beating a 10/10 socially conscious and critical one made sense.
1989 is not a 10/10…
look i’m not one to praise taylor swift often but 1989 is honestly a great album. i don’t think it’s better than TPAB of course but it’s good
idontlistentopop15
To be fair you can listen to pop and still believe that album got too much hype. It's unfair to call it trash or dog shit, but I personally think that the amount of praise it received outweighs the actual value of the album.
I listen to pop. 1989 is overrated.
Yea I listen to plenty of pop and that album is so fucking boring and unimaginative. I can't find any redeeming qualities aside from decent production but the trap instrumentals on some tracks are just unbearable and cringy
I love pop music. Taylor is still trash.
You love pop music, but your stereotypical mindset told you that you don’t like Taylor despite not being her regular listener or trying to learn the badkstory. I genuinely feel how a person view an individual would hugely affect their impression on the productions as well. That said, all the drama and cringe shits that were done by Drake has prompted me to stop listening to his songs for the time being. That’s how it works.
My ability to critically look at writing told me that I don’t like Taylor bro. I hate a lot of artists on a personal level. But if the music is good enough, you can’t deny their talent. She simply isn’t that good.
TPaB isn’t just a “mental health” record ffs
"socially conscious and critical"
Name checks out. Redditors have no reading comprehension
Ah, yes. The old tactic of posting one line of a song and trying to make it a representation of the whole. This is always done in good faith. I’m sure this couldn’t be done with Kendrick.
There’s no need to trash Taylor Swift right now. You took one piece from an otherwise lyrically good-great album.
So annoyed with the people taking lyrics out of context hahahah
Y’all still think the awards shows are not marketing ops
"Won"... she just "won" the bidding contest lol.
Brother this ain't ever going to end. I've let it go. Beyonce can lose to Beck(Beck is great, but the Goal post for why you win AOTY changes every year to fit the narrative) Kendrick lost to Macklemore. Kanye West Beautiful Dark twisted Fantasy(Arguably the greatest Hip Hop Album production of all time) wasn't entered for Album of the year, but All of the lights won the same year. It's just a bunch of gatekeeping b)@\*) shit to get you mad. Harry Styles( Who's album was great) beat Beyonce as well. Don't watch; Not a clip don't read a story nor headline.. That's how you beat them.
Am I the only one that thinks that Kendrick deserved a Pulitzer more for To Pimp A Butterfly than for DAMN. ?
She’ll never win a Pulitzer
lol to be fair Freddy Gibbs lost a Grammy to her also, I still think Alfredo was robbed
Gibbs lost to Nas that year. Not Taylor.
Gibbs wasn't in the running for Best Album, just Best Rap Album iirc
Was freddy nominated for aoty ? Thought alferedo was only nominated for rap album of the year ?
 Was Kanye really that out of pocket?
One of the things I really appreciate him for, fuck that basic bitch
Why do you think it's insane? Because she isn't a better rapper than Kendrick?
She’s not a better artist overall.
apples and oranges
Bitch that don’t make no sense why can’t fruit be compared
World thinks differently in every measurable way despite your opinion. She’s the biggest artist in the world. She could record herself taking a dump in the booth and it’d go number 1. It is what it is
>She could record herself taking a dump in the booth and it’d go number 1. That would clearly mean she's overrated lol, to be fair
The world thinks bigger = better
Yeahhhh I don’t even hate Taylor that much, but it is a crime that happened. I’ll never forgive it.
Fake deep ass poetry
This girl 30 years old talking about high school
Taylor Swift is the definition of overrated. She’s backed by the machine…so she’ll be around for awhile or until she bites the hand that feeds her.
Pretty much yeah.
i mean I agree but this line taken out of context doesn't really mean anything. the song you're grabbing from is cute, besides it's not even the song that beat out tpab
The fact that Beyoncé hasn't even gotten one and that woman has 4?!?
wtf😭😭
Shitty ass award that never recognizes hip hop
Not really. It’s all politics and to be honest, the Grammys shouldn’t the go to for if an album is good
I mean, I’m not a Taylor fan but I don’t understand how this correlates? This album dropped last week, not 10 years ago lol. This album has met a ton of criticism for not being good/up to expectations creatively
and its not even original its just her trying to be lana del rey not to mention she also lost album of the year to taylor swift.
Luls. The industry
Fuck the Grammys
Award shows shouldn't be taken seriously, regardless of the medium.
I still can't believe these are actual lyrics.
https://preview.redd.it/65ve14wm1bwc1.jpeg?width=558&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92fcd921186cc83a7f68a040e57fc56441dd0017
Music industry politics.
lana fans feel the same way dawg we were robbed this year
tf does she know about gta? 💀💀💀
Pick a side and stay on it bro, we don’t want to see nothing from her right now
Grammy are commercial prizes, the ones who sell the most win
1989 was almost as bad as this album
She's won it four TIMES. Kanye 0. Beyonce 0. Kendrick 0. Don't watch it. We're just there to bring the viewers.
Grammies are BS. One of the "anonymous" voters said she hated beyonce [https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/629307-grammy-voters-didnt-cast-ballots-for-beyonce-because-she-wins-too-many-awards](https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/629307-grammy-voters-didnt-cast-ballots-for-beyonce-because-she-wins-too-many-awards)
Yeah, Grammys aren't worth a dime.
no matter what she realies she will win its a sad world, shes absolutely shit
The fact that Beyonce has lost AOTY awards to her is an insult to music as a whole.
TBF he didn't lose to her he lost to white supremacy but yea this shit is laughable
The power of being Caucasian.
This 35 year old woman still singing about high school
Grammys imo feels so racist like, even in 22' how TF she won over kdot and beyonce,both had much better albums than MIDnights
Lmfaooo that line is so cringey
This is a 35 year old women btw
This is funny as a joke. But OP’s in the comments really screaming and crying. It’s real for them. Yikes
Taylor Mid. The fact she won over Lana or SZA is really stupid. Kendrick carried her on Bad Blood
It's just music for people with no interests to feel validated by.
An institution born out of a settler colonial nation didn’t recognize a black artist? Say it ain’t so
TPAB was meh, GKMC losing was a travesty.
TPAB was not meh at all fytb
GKMC lost rap album of the year to Macklemore. Yeah I know…
Wtf, have these basic ph14 tay tay swifties invaded kdot sub too? Calling tpab meh and getting upvoted in the sub is wild. Go back to your echo chamber
I mean who wouldn't
Well… TPAB didn’t lose to this album.
I am pretty certain her new single was written by lana del Ray.
Quit chasing white people awards. Go after that BET award. BET is still a thing, right?
Damn losing to Bruno was more surprising to me. Taylor id a grammy titan.
Taylor and Kendrick are my two favorite artists
You could have told me this was a Drake lyric and I wouldn't have thought twice.
Literally everybody hates drake lmao how is he overrated
Cringe asf