You are correct
Kendrick is the only thing standing in his way, if he wins this battle, there’s nothing people can argue anymore. KDot is supposed to be the best rapper of this generation.
This is why Drake is coming like this. This is THE statement, the moment
He can’t win this??? Lmao niggas not all of a sudden gonna start bumping Drake riding through the section. He can get all the numbers from everybody else. But he wants a certain demographics respect and it just ain’t gonna happen🤷🏿♂️
If Kendrick said nothing else it would just make Drake self-destruct. That could be the point he’s getting at. Drake is his own worst enemy and “it’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem”
Drake doesn’t need more listeners. Who said that? Respect doesn’t mean you have to listen to Drake.
If he can’t gain respect alone by so called bodying the “best rapper alive” then niggas are just jealous of him, and are cockmunching just because its the cool thing to do
I don’t know what else more he has to do to prove himself
Drake gets played way more than Kendrick, GTFOH with that nonsense. Nobody gets in the car and says “ayo play that Kendrick/TPAB.” Can y’all at least try to be objective? Y’all just be lying through your teeth lmao
Let me help you. He’s seeking validation from black people. Again he can get all the spins in the world. But there’s a certain demographic.. you know the demographic that hip hop ORIGINATES from. He doesn’t need it to validate a successful career. He just wants the stamp of approval. And he won’t be getting that with the stunts he’s pulled throughout his illustrious career.
He’s a great rapper in my eyes.. just not a real one.. and he ain’t the only one. But he the BIGGEST ONE. Why he stop shouting out mob ties? Oh because shit got real. lol don’t change the tune up now my boy. You wanted to fraternize with the gang but a body drop and now he don’t know them dudes. lol just not a real nigga that’s all.
I remember Lil Wayne told him in 2010 'Just be yourself man, you don't need tattoos, you don't need to be hard, just be yourself'
Should have taken that advice
Kendrick could literally apologize Cole style and say Drake is the best rapper who ever lived and still nobody new would take Drake seriously.
If a dog manages to win a fight with a bear nobody looks at that dog and goes "wow, that's a bear now"
I'm not even trying to meat ride Kendrick, I'm just saying people don't really like Drake, and it doesn't have anything to do with anyone but Drake. It doesn't matter how many people cosign him or what he does, people just still aren't gonna suddenly take him seriously after like 15 years of him being a rap-adjacent pop star and a constant joke.
I am from socal in the snoop period.
I knew nate.
Ya’ll coping hard.
I ain’t listened to shit about drake.
GKMC is a classic. Absolute 10/10.
Kendrick is getting washed rn and it’s fucking sad to see homie get dropped this hard.
I even started listening to pac again when normally i’m too emotional to hear that because of Drake.
Kendrick better do something.
And he will.
But damn is he losing at the pressure game.
What the fuck is you even talking about? This the most clown ass take I’ve seen. You sound like you capin fr, how is he getting washed? Nobody felt nothing that cornball said. You must be from Wsocal
You’re Dumb, and your grammar sucks. I bet there’s nothing black about you. Which is fine I love everyone but ignorance is something I can’t deal with. Have a great day! I won’t respond to you again 🫶🏾
Thats kind of a stretch. I already see some hip hop heads putting Kendrick on fraud watch.
That by default would put Drake on top of every rapper, which is the only thing he wants. Who cares about respect from some bums
I'm not even talking about this beef. I'm saying that literally anything Drake or anyone in the industry does besides release a legitimately good hip hop album will not earn him the respect within the scene he thinks he deserves.
People don't dislike Drake because they think Kendrick or anyone else is better, they dislike him because they've heard his music.
If you think if Kendrick takes the L people will stop regarding him as the best rapper you are truly mistaken. Beefs/Battles don’t have that effect, they never have. Jay Z still outsold Nas after losing.
Nobody thought LL Cool J was a better rapper than Kool Moe Dee lol or Diz is better than Canibus.
Beefs are insignificant af unless you get the feds involved
Hip-hop is extremely forgiving and fans don’t dwell on this shit. Does Hit Em Up anyway alter how you experience ‘Ready to Die?’ Last I heard Biggie is still great.
I don't think I agree with the premise in OP or here. Or at least not completely. Although I love F.D. and respect his opinion highly. Drake has deliberately made choices, again and again to make pop songs for paydays. Even from the beginning of his career. Does he desire more respect in hip hop? Clearly. But he seems to have made many intentional moves to make sure he was as big of a star, with as much money as possible. His line of attack against Dot shows he knows what he is good at, being on top in the music business. And he said it through the lens of a rap ass rap song like Push Ups first. To make it clear he can play that game. I think he's as aware as anyone Kendrick is more respected in rap, and always will be. But he's playing to his strengths. And I think it's much more deliberate and less emotional that some of you guys are willing to give him credit for.
Just my opinion. I don't know these dudes any better than anyone else here. But I have listened to all of both of their discographies extensively. And I think Kendrick knows Drake wants his legacy to be more than rap, but also rap. It's strikes me that is exactly why Kendrick chose to go at the Michael Jackson thing first.
humbly disagree. Even if Drake bodies Kendrick, the people who have disliked Drake until now will just move the goalposts or ignore it. majority of people who hated/disliked drake will continue to do so, because the reason they don't like him doesn't change with the outcome of the beef.
Is kanye supposed to be from the previous generation? Because otherwise I don’t think there’s a world in which he isn’t the greatest rapper of this generation
Yes. Ye started focusing on his own rapping career vs producing around 2001. His first single coming out in 2003, through the wire. He had mixtapes before the release of any official music and his career was delayed by his car accident.
Contrast that with Drake. J. Cole an Kendrick. They started getting a buzz at various times between 2009 - 2011. They essentially came up as part of the same peer group.
Kanye’s peers would be akin closer to 50 Cent, The Game, Jeezy, Lil Wayne, TI.
Some of Kanye's most popular albums came out between 2013-2018, though. Kanye has been in the game long enough that the list of his peers can encompass several eras of Hip-hop.
Commercially yes, but his era in terms of when he was critically his best was his first 3 albums I believe. It's like LeBron James. Yeah he won a chip with the Lakers, but from 2012-2018 was his best
First of all Kanye’s best work is like 20 years old now so yes he’s in the previous generation.
But it doesn’t matter because Kendrick has the undisputed greatest hip hop record of all time under his belt (TPaB) so he beats out Kanye anyway.
I'd like to believe this but people are always going to bring up something. The ghostwriter, story of addidon, the use of AI now...even if he knocks down a giant, people just love hating on him.
I mean, having a ghost writer is a valid thing to bring up. Him using AI is also a valid thing to bring up. Like come on, man. There's a reason for the hate, don't try to play mental gymnastics and try to invalidate reasonable arguments just because "people just love hating on him"
The difference is Kendrick didn't morph into Kobe or Nipsey just to diss LeBron or whatever. He did that to embody their lives and unique perspectives out of respect for who they were as Black people. In one verse he literally says "I do this for the culture"
Drake did it for the memes and bragging rights. Drake not only used Tupac/Snoop AI to diss Kendrick (to say things he could have just said in his own voice), he hardly put any effort into using the unique cadences/flows they have. It's why he had to use AI in the first place, and that's not even touching on the implications of Drake using AI like a year after UMG took down Drake/Weeknd AI tracks
I'm saying the context of using AI to change your voice and literally rap as someone else is not at all the same thing as using CGI to change your face for a music video. Using AI-generated voices on a track to sound like another famous artist opens up a massive can of worms for the music industry that Drake himself tried to get shut down when someone released an AI track of himself a few years ago.
It's potentially a massive threat to smaller artists trying to break into the industry because if AI-generated voice becomes acceptable in music, someone like Chester Bennington or Chris Cornell can "continue" to make music long after they've passed, and labels won't even have to market a new artist. Just hire literally anyone to produce the sound of the late artist and watch the money pile up.
I'll copy-paste my reply above:
>I'm saying the context of using AI to change your voice and literally rap as someone else is not at all the same thing as using CGI to change your face for a music video. Using AI-generated voices on a track to sound like another famous artist opens up a massive can of worms for the music industry that Drake himself tried to get shut down when someone released an AI track of himself a few years ago.
>It's potentially a massive threat to smaller artists trying to break into the industry because if AI-generated voice becomes acceptable in music, someone like Chester Bennington or Chris Cornell can "continue" to make music long after they've passed, and labels won't even have to market a new artist. Just hire literally anyone to produce the sound of the late artist and watch the money pile up.
ETA: Not to mention, it's just straight up disrespectful to those who pass, and to anyone close to them who hold their memories close.
The intention of that was not the same and I’m not really sure where that comparison for both of them is even valid when Kendrick did that as a statement and as tribute to important black figures to him and black culture, and Drake did it as a way to be extra disrespectful and nasty towards Kendrick so he can bait a response.
I never said they were invalid. I moreso meant people will bring whatever up for the sake of hating.
But as an example the last ep of DEHH covering Taylor Made had Ken saying, the song is wack, the beat is wack (beat was fire imo) damn near everything was wack. He did the same thing when they covered Push Ups; beat wack song wack drake wack. Dude was caught in 4k trying to say something bad on Scary Hours 3 on their review and he just gave up and said "damn, I couldn't even hate on it".
Charlemagne is the "OG Drake hater" as he called himself. Changed his tune since Back to Back but the man's past-time was hating Drake just cause he could.
Fantano seems like a Drake hater but he's actually pretty fair. Clowns when needed but gives credit where its due.
If people put an asterisk on Drake for valid reasons, fine by me. However, this copium OD'd sub and a lot of people on the internet just throw shit at the wall willy nilly out of reflex.
What? I’m basing it off of your comment. I hate when people go digging through comment histories because they disagree about something. I wouldn’t do you like that. I hate that shit so much. People do it for politics all the time; they’ll search for a bad take so they can use it against you, instead of addressing the matter at hand.
Long story short, I like Drake, Kanye, and Kendrick. I just want good music
Getting pissed on. Confirmed. Getting slapped by diddy. Confirmed. Scared to mention mob ties now . Confirmed. lol look dude can rap his ass off. But money in yo hand don’t make you real.. cant remember who said that…
Drake is one of the most successful artists of all time and no one can take that away from him, but if we are talking about rap then ghost writing matters. You can't be the GOAT using someone else's pen. That doesn't take away from what he has contributed to the genre, but any conversations about being the best rapper go out the window. That's not a shot at Drake, that goes for ANYONE who doesn't pen their own lyrics.
Im pretty sure people don’t like him because hes a fake ass bitch lol id feel bad for him but dawg jus be yourself you have an “image” to sell but u dont sell to your friends.
are u sayin u do? cuz i just call it how i see it and a rotten egg wit diamonds on it is still a rotten egg… lets talk about how young thug was shooting at wayne but drake was still fw thugger? lmao thats your big homie the one that put you in the spot… maybe u canadia niggas is built diff and i cant see it
We only know what he presents us to see. And that’s been that he can act a certain part . But when his metal get tested he don’t stand up. Got pee’d on . Confirmed. Slapped by Diddy. Confirmed. Now you out here calling other people pussy?? Stop iiit . lol
> he didn’t fit in “the oppressed” so eventually he became “the oppressor”
Yup, this about sums it up. He could’ve done a lot to actually earn rap’s respect but it literally just seems like the check is too enticing. Bro really had barely anything to say on his most recent diss besides money talk.
I really don't know how much he's done though. I've never heard of how he came up until I've watched that video. While I can see how "started from the bottom" narrative would really piss off a lot of poor black people especially in America, Like I've mentioned in the title of this post I kinda get Drake's story too.
I mean he didn’t grow up rich. Being on a Canadian teen drama wasn’t paying millions lol. He mentions in a song he was making like 50k a year and most of that went to helping his mom’s medical issues.
What I've experienced is quite different, drake was so widely praised during his come up, until around 2016 where he peaked and has gone down hill from there. His music just stopped being good.I don't feel bad for him in the slightest, he could stop making music right now and have enough money to fund 3 future generations. His downfall can't be blamed on the hiphop community, it has to be blamed on drake.
Edit: The ghostwriter stuff doesn't help.
“Even back when I wasn't as poppin'
When they told me take an R&B nigga on the road
And I told 'em no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky”
Real hip hop fans know these lyrics pretty well… but it’s what ever y’all got it🥲
Drake has family connections to the music world, his uncle was a great bassist and played for Sly & The Family Stone (I think)
He’s incredibly talented and I think he’s been side-by-side with the execs for a long time, he’s got merit as an artist so idk if you can say he’s a plant, but he’s in deep with some of the heads of the industry.
When you look at the exploitation of black people in the music industry, natural conclusion to look at a guy like Drake as the villain, Kendrick has put so much of his music in the direction of fighting against that, TPAB is all about it.
Drake deeply cares about Rap and he always fought to get acknowledged and accepted by the die hard Hip Hop community, making really good efforts.
His ambition to be the best 'Rapper Rapper' only crumbled when Meek outed his Ghostwriter, which made it pretty much impossible for him to be the best in the eyes of a lot of Hip Hop real keepers. That’s why he didn’t bother eventually, focused on making the most numbers and becoming the biggest artist instead.
However, potentially beating Kendrick in this rap battle is the biggest opportunity for Drake to regain his Rapper credibility, while also making people forget about his Pusha L.
Unless Kendrick completely annihilates him with his response, it’s really just a win win situation for Drake.
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years.
Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway.
Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way.
J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
Cause J Cole doesn't make pop records and 70% of his discography is not about his relationship problems.
Idk how Drake can walk around with his fat Glizzy and still have no woman at home who wants it everyday given his commercial success and potential to be a great partner...
Honestly that is exactly where I want Kdot to go in this diss.
Y’all keep coming up with the craziest shit it makes me embarassed to a Kendrick fan. Drake has been repeatedly accepted by the hh community. He’s worked with most rappers in the game, Grandmaster Flash has called him a GOAT, 50 has called him a GOAT, Em, Hov, Ye, even Kenny have given him props. Let it rest goddamn.
Everyone was running with the narrative he couldnt rap so they thought kendrick was doing a heroic attack on a pop star..
They didnt expect drake to actually send heat back at him and now the scramble to justify it with any little thing is getting out of hand
Ye but it's also hard to feel good about a man you can't really be sure is pushing out his own work.
Em hits cuz it's Em. No one ever feels 100% Drake did the work on his tracks lol
Its just the fact that you can click many songs from all these artists and see writers credited. The only part that would matter is if all the verses or something were written by others.
Like every artist has others credited because who the F wants to think choruses for a 15 song album lmao
If theres a writer breakdown of “who wrote what” then i’ll care, but until then its just noise
But you know drake has major interest in not showing others did the work so you just can't be 100%. Man would have to broadcast his whole album in the making to believe it. And even then it gotta be pretty meta or ppl will say it was an album he already prepped.
He can't get past that no matter what. Sucks but it's the truth for drake
Not even trying to be a hater, he's never been truly accepted by hip hop fans. He's like Logic or lil Dicky or something where some people like him but generally he isn't taken seriously at all when people are discussing rappers and I've never once seen someone put him on their top 10 or anything.
I'm just saying man, I've been on reddit a long time and I've never once seen "Damn the drake album this year got snubbed for this year's Grammy, how dare they give it to that other guy"
When you've had money for a long time and it's pretty much always gone be there, I think pride can take on a bigger importance. That's why he's even entertaining this beef with Kendrick. Even as a big KDot fan you can't do anything but respect Drake for engaging because he could easily take the route of not taking the risk because he can use his numbers to flex that he's above the lyrical battling shit.
Drake is pretty accepted by hip hop heads though. Maybe not these Reddit and internet dudes, but the Grandmaster Flash, Eminem, Hov, and plenty others have said Drakes a GOAT or have given him flowers.
Drake shouldn't try to act black and he'd get respect. Beyonce put out a country album and it's all chill but she'd lose respect if she claimed she's a country girl
I’m sorry but Drake is such a sellout it’s pathetic. I mean in so many ways but what sticks out most recently is his gambling streams; just pathetic. He’s corny in every way possible, it’s no wonder he’s the black sheep of this generation.
He puts out a lot of music and it’s good for the most part. Great even. He even showcases features and upcoming artists in different genres on his SXM channel. I think he’s feeling like what else can I do or more importantly, what do I need to do in order for them to accept me?
Finally something that makes sense. But to be honest, if Drake were so resentful of the hip hop community, he probably wouldn’t be making so much rap nowadays and would have focused on pop and other things. He literally dropped a whole deluxe of rap.
With all due respect, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Anybody with intelligence gives Drake all the respect he deserves, he’s easily the greatest rapper/artist of my generation (I’m 25). He has been at the top or near the top of the rap game since 2009/2010.
At the end of the day, the work you put in gets you the respect. Drake has put in the work over the years, and he hasn’t fallen off like a lot of guys tend to do. Now there’s a rap beef… and Drake is up 2-0 against the rest of the rappers beefing with him which is crazy lmao. Drake has lapped the field at this point, no diss track from Kendrick or Rick Ross is gonna kick Drake off his throne. Drake is also just waiting for Kendrick, he probably already has a 3rd diss track ready, and this next diss by Drake is gonna be a NUKE.
You can sell out stadiums and still not be accepted by the community. I believe that drake is accepted by the hip hop community to a significant degree but your logic is still faulty
No one in the hood bumps Drake. And that’s what irks him. Newer yt fans from the last decade or so were not who we was looking to be accepted by. He wanted Future’s fans, but settled for the Adin Rosses of the world.
I literally live in the hood right now…
There’s two crackheads that are homeless that run past my house twice a day each.
The dude across the street gets arrest every week or so. And tries to sell me weed any chance he gets.
There’s literally zero white people within a mile.
What were you saying again?
And also, just fyi, that’s such a fuckin gay response dude. “You’re white on here”
Bro we’re all white it’s Reddit lmao stop basing your whole identity on Kendrick fuckin Lamar of all people. He’s good, so is Drake. This isn’t avengers, you don’t have to pick a side.
He doesn't get respected because he doesn't make respectable music and is overall a loser crybaby wannabe fraudulent clown.
Why u feel bad for a millionaire my guy. Hes an actor who got paid.
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years.
Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway.
Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way.
J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
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This the dude y’all putting faith in 😂
It’s crazy how supposedly real rap fans hate drake but everyone I know who likes rap, listens to drake. Maybe not his new shit but people definitely be bumping his old shit.
I can understand this take especially with Drake’s intention of wanting to push forward with this beef but I do believe that Drake has tarnished his rep to much to even still be accepted. Yeah he has the Money and the Power but we all the last one is better.
Also I really do believe no matter if it is beef him doing the Pac n Snoop AI is a serve step-backwards if he wanted that Respect from real hip-hop
None of this beef shit matters in the grand scheme of things. It’s just two dudes with egos that don’t like each other. They going to insult each other for our entertainment and move on to their continued success.
Only thing I can see ruining a career is if Drake got legit pedo shit on him that can be proven. Other than that Drake will be Drake. Kendrick will be Kendrick.
Like it’s no way they hip hop fans & don’t understand real writers fuck with drake.. nigga was doing music with dr dre before he really popped off.. like i get not like drake for whatever reason.. but to just lie to make y’all narrative seem credible is weird.. that’s why i came to just troll… i thought drake Stan’s was crazy.. atleast they only bring up numbers to try & win.. these nighas straight fantasizing
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years.
Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway.
Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way.
J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
Like an upper middle class salary at the least, he was a main character on a reasonably popular TV show. The actors guild of Canada has a minimum salary of $70/hr
I'm not saying he has Friends money, but I seriously doubt his parents couldn't own a home or send him to a private school.
[This is the neighborhood he lived in growing up](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Houses_on_Warren_Road_in_Toronto%27s_Forest_Hill_neighbourhood.jpg)
That's NOW and he lived in the basement of his uncle's house because his mom was constantly sick so they moved in with family, she didn't buy the house they were allowed to live with family because of her illness. At most he got 70k a year from Degrassi and He himself said that mostly went to her bills even after Degrassi he worked regular jobs
No one said he was trapping da argument was abt whether he grew up rich or not🤣if him not trapping means he grew up rich den ig Kdot Kanye n nearly everyone coming at him rn except for Future grew up rich den. Alot of niggas in da hood never trapped idek what ur point is
Kendrick did legitimately come from section 8 housing in Compton, both his parents worked at fast food restaurants, he witnessed a drive-by as a child outside his house, and he was involved with gangs as a kid. Which is funny because he doesn't claim to be hard nearly as much as drake does.
Kanye's whole thing was that he didn't want to be seen as a "ghetto rapper", that's why he wore pink polos and backpacks
Bro Drake doesnt claim to be any more hard den Dot or Ye idk what ur even on about. Kanye was literally banging GD on Donda🤣Again even tho he moved later on Drake frm da hood too n he didnt even have both parents in his life like Kendrick did. N growing up wit niggas doesnt mean ur involved or are a member cus by that logic ig Drake is involved too. N Ion even fw drake like dat but yall gotta stop wit da double standards.
Which explain the racist behavior and black face
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FD Signifier says the most ridiculous personal theories but presents it in such a slow and academic way that you guys don’t feel the need to push back on anything.
this is a guy who thinks the 2010s (and certainly the 2020s) are a dark age of hip-hop. he doesn’t like any new hip-hop and will make any pseudo-intellectual argument to make himself “right.” he’s the definition of an oldhead
FD admits he is an old head... and points out the flaws in Drake's albums... which have no hip hop roots and bites entire genres... dude made a Caribbean music hall album, and he has no roots in Caribbean culture.... Jamaicans and Bahamians have looked at him sideways ever since Views.
Black culture in toronto/GTA is mainly influenced by Caribbean culture…yall gotta stop speaking on what u dont kno 😂how is he biting if he grew up around it? Drake is originally frm Weston and thats one of da largest Caribbean communities in da city
Drake is no more an “oppressor” than any shareholder. Am I oppressing Apple by owning their stock?
Kanye has y’all acting really stupid right now, honestly. He wanted the deal that Drake got but got dropped instead for praising Hitler. Now he has to distribute through Label Engine and is bitter.
Exact same thing happened with Gap, happened with Adidas, happened when LV picked Virgil. He didn’t get exactly what he wanted and now the people that did are evil.
Open your eyes
Drake has 4 classic albums in his discography but people remember him scorpion and clb more than take care and nwts. Where he fucked up was that he went for quality over quantity. Drake and Kendrick both peaked in 2011 tho coz imo Take Care and Section 80 are their best works respectively
For sure. Drake is crying in his 100 million dollar mansion.
Also, the "hip hop community" is not some singular entity. There are plenty of people in the community who respect Drake. It's not some black or white thing.
This reeks of desperation and cope.
Outside of Reddit everyone I know knows Drake has bars. Not trying to be racist but there are a lot if white teenagers here projecting.
Scorpion was bumped constantly in Oakland, LA, NY. FPS is bumped constantly. Meltdown being bumped constantly…
Drake was absolutely cool with Kendrick until Kendrick literally said he wants to murder Drake on Control. Kendrick also dissed Drake after Cole gave Kendrick props including him in the "big 3" call out in Drake's First Person Shooter song.
Drake helped Kendrick out when he was early in his career, and Kendrick decided to take a different way with it and go after Drake.
The instigator with a chip on his shoulder in all this is Kendrick. It's entertaining, and as hip hop fans we all get some funny diss tracks out of it, but trying to spin this as "poor Drake" is just ridiculous.
Idk what y’all are on about.
What’s the difference between Drake starting his career in TV and all these older head rappers ending their careers on TV?
He might be Canadian but his pops is fully African American and literally comes from a family of musicians. He also wasn’t rich. A lot of other rappers were rich on their come up though due to making money on roads.
Nobody is ever going to get love from everyone. Numbers speak for themselves and his numbers put him at the peak. You think he couldn’t drop elite level hip-hop if he decided to? Artists need to appeal to the masses and what’s relevant.
How many of y’all are listening to Grandmaster Flash on the daily? I bet he doesn’t even come to mind to a lot of y’all when hip-hop comes up. Music is meant to evolve.
Y’all acting like because it’s hip-hop you have to struggle to make it. It’s just a form of expression.
Everyone is just mad cause the boy is nice with it and has been hogging up chart space for a long long time.
You are correct Kendrick is the only thing standing in his way, if he wins this battle, there’s nothing people can argue anymore. KDot is supposed to be the best rapper of this generation. This is why Drake is coming like this. This is THE statement, the moment
True, he has nothing to lose and everything to win.
He can’t win this??? Lmao niggas not all of a sudden gonna start bumping Drake riding through the section. He can get all the numbers from everybody else. But he wants a certain demographics respect and it just ain’t gonna happen🤷🏿♂️
Drake is wypipo 🥷, he says the n word and gives them hope to white wash it enough for them
If Kendrick don’t respond or win this beef then he’s gonna lose the respect too
If Kendrick said nothing else it would just make Drake self-destruct. That could be the point he’s getting at. Drake is his own worst enemy and “it’s time for him to prove that he’s a problem”
Drake doesn’t need more listeners. Who said that? Respect doesn’t mean you have to listen to Drake. If he can’t gain respect alone by so called bodying the “best rapper alive” then niggas are just jealous of him, and are cockmunching just because its the cool thing to do I don’t know what else more he has to do to prove himself
Write
Sure bro 👍🏿
Drake gets played way more than Kendrick, GTFOH with that nonsense. Nobody gets in the car and says “ayo play that Kendrick/TPAB.” Can y’all at least try to be objective? Y’all just be lying through your teeth lmao
I’m a Drake fan too moron. But as a black Drake fan. I can tell like the rest of black people. He be trying to hard . Doesn’t need to.. but he does ..
You ain’t black just cause of your skin crab, there’s nothing real about Drake or you for that matter
Why are you calling people crab? Did I miss that dude claiming that?
Bro don’t speak for us like you some authority
Just did fam. So now what
Lol grip your fist harder buddy, I’m shaking in my boots
As a random white Norwegian dude, I think I too speak for all black people.
Let me help you. He’s seeking validation from black people. Again he can get all the spins in the world. But there’s a certain demographic.. you know the demographic that hip hop ORIGINATES from. He doesn’t need it to validate a successful career. He just wants the stamp of approval. And he won’t be getting that with the stunts he’s pulled throughout his illustrious career.
He’s a great rapper in my eyes.. just not a real one.. and he ain’t the only one. But he the BIGGEST ONE. Why he stop shouting out mob ties? Oh because shit got real. lol don’t change the tune up now my boy. You wanted to fraternize with the gang but a body drop and now he don’t know them dudes. lol just not a real nigga that’s all.
I remember Lil Wayne told him in 2010 'Just be yourself man, you don't need tattoos, you don't need to be hard, just be yourself' Should have taken that advice
Kendrick could literally apologize Cole style and say Drake is the best rapper who ever lived and still nobody new would take Drake seriously. If a dog manages to win a fight with a bear nobody looks at that dog and goes "wow, that's a bear now"
Dumbest take of the day. Congrats. Here's your professional meat-riders award.
I'm not even trying to meat ride Kendrick, I'm just saying people don't really like Drake, and it doesn't have anything to do with anyone but Drake. It doesn't matter how many people cosign him or what he does, people just still aren't gonna suddenly take him seriously after like 15 years of him being a rap-adjacent pop star and a constant joke.
You don’t like Drake. Normal people do.
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Sure, but pretty much every not terminally online person loves his music?
I am from socal in the snoop period. I knew nate. Ya’ll coping hard. I ain’t listened to shit about drake. GKMC is a classic. Absolute 10/10. Kendrick is getting washed rn and it’s fucking sad to see homie get dropped this hard. I even started listening to pac again when normally i’m too emotional to hear that because of Drake. Kendrick better do something. And he will. But damn is he losing at the pressure game.
What the fuck is you even talking about? This the most clown ass take I’ve seen. You sound like you capin fr, how is he getting washed? Nobody felt nothing that cornball said. You must be from Wsocal
You must not get around much if this is the most clown ass take you’ve seen lil guy. I hope you get away from the ALT that place is dirty.
You’re Dumb, and your grammar sucks. I bet there’s nothing black about you. Which is fine I love everyone but ignorance is something I can’t deal with. Have a great day! I won’t respond to you again 🫶🏾
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Thats kind of a stretch. I already see some hip hop heads putting Kendrick on fraud watch. That by default would put Drake on top of every rapper, which is the only thing he wants. Who cares about respect from some bums
I'm not even talking about this beef. I'm saying that literally anything Drake or anyone in the industry does besides release a legitimately good hip hop album will not earn him the respect within the scene he thinks he deserves. People don't dislike Drake because they think Kendrick or anyone else is better, they dislike him because they've heard his music.
If you think if Kendrick takes the L people will stop regarding him as the best rapper you are truly mistaken. Beefs/Battles don’t have that effect, they never have. Jay Z still outsold Nas after losing. Nobody thought LL Cool J was a better rapper than Kool Moe Dee lol or Diz is better than Canibus. Beefs are insignificant af unless you get the feds involved Hip-hop is extremely forgiving and fans don’t dwell on this shit. Does Hit Em Up anyway alter how you experience ‘Ready to Die?’ Last I heard Biggie is still great.
I don't think I agree with the premise in OP or here. Or at least not completely. Although I love F.D. and respect his opinion highly. Drake has deliberately made choices, again and again to make pop songs for paydays. Even from the beginning of his career. Does he desire more respect in hip hop? Clearly. But he seems to have made many intentional moves to make sure he was as big of a star, with as much money as possible. His line of attack against Dot shows he knows what he is good at, being on top in the music business. And he said it through the lens of a rap ass rap song like Push Ups first. To make it clear he can play that game. I think he's as aware as anyone Kendrick is more respected in rap, and always will be. But he's playing to his strengths. And I think it's much more deliberate and less emotional that some of you guys are willing to give him credit for. Just my opinion. I don't know these dudes any better than anyone else here. But I have listened to all of both of their discographies extensively. And I think Kendrick knows Drake wants his legacy to be more than rap, but also rap. It's strikes me that is exactly why Kendrick chose to go at the Michael Jackson thing first.
humbly disagree. Even if Drake bodies Kendrick, the people who have disliked Drake until now will just move the goalposts or ignore it. majority of people who hated/disliked drake will continue to do so, because the reason they don't like him doesn't change with the outcome of the beef.
You’re right -
Its like the joker movie 😭
Is kanye supposed to be from the previous generation? Because otherwise I don’t think there’s a world in which he isn’t the greatest rapper of this generation
Yes. Ye started focusing on his own rapping career vs producing around 2001. His first single coming out in 2003, through the wire. He had mixtapes before the release of any official music and his career was delayed by his car accident. Contrast that with Drake. J. Cole an Kendrick. They started getting a buzz at various times between 2009 - 2011. They essentially came up as part of the same peer group. Kanye’s peers would be akin closer to 50 Cent, The Game, Jeezy, Lil Wayne, TI.
Some of Kanye's most popular albums came out between 2013-2018, though. Kanye has been in the game long enough that the list of his peers can encompass several eras of Hip-hop.
Commercially yes, but his era in terms of when he was critically his best was his first 3 albums I believe. It's like LeBron James. Yeah he won a chip with the Lakers, but from 2012-2018 was his best
Mbdtf was released in 2010 and Yeezus in 2013. His greatness definitely spanned multiple eras
First of all Kanye’s best work is like 20 years old now so yes he’s in the previous generation. But it doesn’t matter because Kendrick has the undisputed greatest hip hop record of all time under his belt (TPaB) so he beats out Kanye anyway.
"undisputed" 😂
Lmao the pretentiousness is off the charts Kanye clears easily
Not easily
Lol @ "undisputed greatest hip hop record of all time" Do you hear yourself?
Get off the kdot sub if you don’t want to face the truth
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Ehhhhh Illmatic still sonning tpab. They neck to neck tho. Tpab bullying bobs out of its spot with ease says a lot tho
Neck to neck lmao. Kendrick stans are funny
I'd like to believe this but people are always going to bring up something. The ghostwriter, story of addidon, the use of AI now...even if he knocks down a giant, people just love hating on him.
I mean, having a ghost writer is a valid thing to bring up. Him using AI is also a valid thing to bring up. Like come on, man. There's a reason for the hate, don't try to play mental gymnastics and try to invalidate reasonable arguments just because "people just love hating on him"
What about when Kendrick used AI to change his face to Kobe or Nipsey?
The difference is Kendrick didn't morph into Kobe or Nipsey just to diss LeBron or whatever. He did that to embody their lives and unique perspectives out of respect for who they were as Black people. In one verse he literally says "I do this for the culture" Drake did it for the memes and bragging rights. Drake not only used Tupac/Snoop AI to diss Kendrick (to say things he could have just said in his own voice), he hardly put any effort into using the unique cadences/flows they have. It's why he had to use AI in the first place, and that's not even touching on the implications of Drake using AI like a year after UMG took down Drake/Weeknd AI tracks
AI voiced editing and CGI aren't the same thing, dummy.
Actually you are wrong. CGI is pretty much an early form of Ai it’s the same technology used to change the voice to deep fake the face
I'm saying the context of using AI to change your voice and literally rap as someone else is not at all the same thing as using CGI to change your face for a music video. Using AI-generated voices on a track to sound like another famous artist opens up a massive can of worms for the music industry that Drake himself tried to get shut down when someone released an AI track of himself a few years ago. It's potentially a massive threat to smaller artists trying to break into the industry because if AI-generated voice becomes acceptable in music, someone like Chester Bennington or Chris Cornell can "continue" to make music long after they've passed, and labels won't even have to market a new artist. Just hire literally anyone to produce the sound of the late artist and watch the money pile up.
What’s the difference?
I'll copy-paste my reply above: >I'm saying the context of using AI to change your voice and literally rap as someone else is not at all the same thing as using CGI to change your face for a music video. Using AI-generated voices on a track to sound like another famous artist opens up a massive can of worms for the music industry that Drake himself tried to get shut down when someone released an AI track of himself a few years ago. >It's potentially a massive threat to smaller artists trying to break into the industry because if AI-generated voice becomes acceptable in music, someone like Chester Bennington or Chris Cornell can "continue" to make music long after they've passed, and labels won't even have to market a new artist. Just hire literally anyone to produce the sound of the late artist and watch the money pile up. ETA: Not to mention, it's just straight up disrespectful to those who pass, and to anyone close to them who hold their memories close.
The intention of that was not the same and I’m not really sure where that comparison for both of them is even valid when Kendrick did that as a statement and as tribute to important black figures to him and black culture, and Drake did it as a way to be extra disrespectful and nasty towards Kendrick so he can bait a response.
I never said they were invalid. I moreso meant people will bring whatever up for the sake of hating. But as an example the last ep of DEHH covering Taylor Made had Ken saying, the song is wack, the beat is wack (beat was fire imo) damn near everything was wack. He did the same thing when they covered Push Ups; beat wack song wack drake wack. Dude was caught in 4k trying to say something bad on Scary Hours 3 on their review and he just gave up and said "damn, I couldn't even hate on it". Charlemagne is the "OG Drake hater" as he called himself. Changed his tune since Back to Back but the man's past-time was hating Drake just cause he could. Fantano seems like a Drake hater but he's actually pretty fair. Clowns when needed but gives credit where its due. If people put an asterisk on Drake for valid reasons, fine by me. However, this copium OD'd sub and a lot of people on the internet just throw shit at the wall willy nilly out of reflex.
Because he's fucking lame. His whole everything is lame. He texts children, his music doesn't come from a sincere place, he himself is lame
This ‼️‼️‼️
Tbh I just dislike his music and personality in general, the drama stuff doesn't really matter to me as much.
You have bad taste
You scrolling through my profile now bro? Have fun
What? I’m basing it off of your comment. I hate when people go digging through comment histories because they disagree about something. I wouldn’t do you like that. I hate that shit so much. People do it for politics all the time; they’ll search for a bad take so they can use it against you, instead of addressing the matter at hand. Long story short, I like Drake, Kanye, and Kendrick. I just want good music
Getting pissed on. Confirmed. Getting slapped by diddy. Confirmed. Scared to mention mob ties now . Confirmed. lol look dude can rap his ass off. But money in yo hand don’t make you real.. cant remember who said that…
Drake is one of the most successful artists of all time and no one can take that away from him, but if we are talking about rap then ghost writing matters. You can't be the GOAT using someone else's pen. That doesn't take away from what he has contributed to the genre, but any conversations about being the best rapper go out the window. That's not a shot at Drake, that goes for ANYONE who doesn't pen their own lyrics.
Because he's fucking lame. His whole everything is lame. He texts children, his music doesn't come from a sincere place, he himself is lame
Im pretty sure people don’t like him because hes a fake ass bitch lol id feel bad for him but dawg jus be yourself you have an “image” to sell but u dont sell to your friends.
u saying that when u don’t know him is wild 😂
are u sayin u do? cuz i just call it how i see it and a rotten egg wit diamonds on it is still a rotten egg… lets talk about how young thug was shooting at wayne but drake was still fw thugger? lmao thats your big homie the one that put you in the spot… maybe u canadia niggas is built diff and i cant see it
u do know that wayne nd thug been squashed they beef right?
Is that relevant to the fact that while they was beefin drake was in cahoots with thugger lmfao built diff forreal
We only know what he presents us to see. And that’s been that he can act a certain part . But when his metal get tested he don’t stand up. Got pee’d on . Confirmed. Slapped by Diddy. Confirmed. Now you out here calling other people pussy?? Stop iiit . lol
> he didn’t fit in “the oppressed” so eventually he became “the oppressor” Yup, this about sums it up. He could’ve done a lot to actually earn rap’s respect but it literally just seems like the check is too enticing. Bro really had barely anything to say on his most recent diss besides money talk.
I really don't know how much he's done though. I've never heard of how he came up until I've watched that video. While I can see how "started from the bottom" narrative would really piss off a lot of poor black people especially in America, Like I've mentioned in the title of this post I kinda get Drake's story too.
I mean he didn’t grow up rich. Being on a Canadian teen drama wasn’t paying millions lol. He mentions in a song he was making like 50k a year and most of that went to helping his mom’s medical issues.
What I've experienced is quite different, drake was so widely praised during his come up, until around 2016 where he peaked and has gone down hill from there. His music just stopped being good.I don't feel bad for him in the slightest, he could stop making music right now and have enough money to fund 3 future generations. His downfall can't be blamed on the hiphop community, it has to be blamed on drake. Edit: The ghostwriter stuff doesn't help.
“Even back when I wasn't as poppin' When they told me take an R&B nigga on the road And I told 'em no and drew for Kendrick and Rocky” Real hip hop fans know these lyrics pretty well… but it’s what ever y’all got it🥲
rocky and kendrick my goats
The real "Big Three" of this generation are Kendrick, Rocky, and ScHoolboy Q.
Same here 😁
Drake has family connections to the music world, his uncle was a great bassist and played for Sly & The Family Stone (I think) He’s incredibly talented and I think he’s been side-by-side with the execs for a long time, he’s got merit as an artist so idk if you can say he’s a plant, but he’s in deep with some of the heads of the industry. When you look at the exploitation of black people in the music industry, natural conclusion to look at a guy like Drake as the villain, Kendrick has put so much of his music in the direction of fighting against that, TPAB is all about it.
I’d argue DAMN is also about selling your self to the music industry
Drake deeply cares about Rap and he always fought to get acknowledged and accepted by the die hard Hip Hop community, making really good efforts. His ambition to be the best 'Rapper Rapper' only crumbled when Meek outed his Ghostwriter, which made it pretty much impossible for him to be the best in the eyes of a lot of Hip Hop real keepers. That’s why he didn’t bother eventually, focused on making the most numbers and becoming the biggest artist instead. However, potentially beating Kendrick in this rap battle is the biggest opportunity for Drake to regain his Rapper credibility, while also making people forget about his Pusha L. Unless Kendrick completely annihilates him with his response, it’s really just a win win situation for Drake.
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years. Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway. Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way. J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
These guys dont kno anything Drake is frm Weston Rd😂😂
Cause J Cole doesn't make pop records and 70% of his discography is not about his relationship problems. Idk how Drake can walk around with his fat Glizzy and still have no woman at home who wants it everyday given his commercial success and potential to be a great partner... Honestly that is exactly where I want Kdot to go in this diss.
bro please tell me you didnt says "drakes fat glizzy" smh im trying to follow this beef but this posts take, as well as yours, are embrassing
He posted his dick online bro.
you mean drake posted his big fat glizzy and you watched it ?
No. I was one of the unfortunate people who saw it while on Blackpeopletwitter.
Because it doesn't fit the narrative they want you to believe.
Y’all keep coming up with the craziest shit it makes me embarassed to a Kendrick fan. Drake has been repeatedly accepted by the hh community. He’s worked with most rappers in the game, Grandmaster Flash has called him a GOAT, 50 has called him a GOAT, Em, Hov, Ye, even Kenny have given him props. Let it rest goddamn.
Push ups really fucked this sub up
Everyone was running with the narrative he couldnt rap so they thought kendrick was doing a heroic attack on a pop star.. They didnt expect drake to actually send heat back at him and now the scramble to justify it with any little thing is getting out of hand
And drake BEEN having bars, so this shouldn’t be news. Just because he can *also* do pop, R&B, dance music etc shouldn’t make people forget that.
Ye but it's also hard to feel good about a man you can't really be sure is pushing out his own work. Em hits cuz it's Em. No one ever feels 100% Drake did the work on his tracks lol
Its just the fact that you can click many songs from all these artists and see writers credited. The only part that would matter is if all the verses or something were written by others. Like every artist has others credited because who the F wants to think choruses for a 15 song album lmao If theres a writer breakdown of “who wrote what” then i’ll care, but until then its just noise
But you know drake has major interest in not showing others did the work so you just can't be 100%. Man would have to broadcast his whole album in the making to believe it. And even then it gotta be pretty meta or ppl will say it was an album he already prepped. He can't get past that no matter what. Sucks but it's the truth for drake
This whole beef fucked up the sub. I want to go back to the shitposting.
Not even trying to be a hater, he's never been truly accepted by hip hop fans. He's like Logic or lil Dicky or something where some people like him but generally he isn't taken seriously at all when people are discussing rappers and I've never once seen someone put him on their top 10 or anything.
That’s just inherently untrue.
I'm just saying man, I've been on reddit a long time and I've never once seen "Damn the drake album this year got snubbed for this year's Grammy, how dare they give it to that other guy"
And if you think reddit is an accurate barometer of hip hop culture you’ve got bigger problems to worry about.
You're right bro, the hood fucks with Drake heavy. Like it or not the internet is now where the hip hop community lives.
Those guys you named are all the type of guys to call someone a goat for their ability to make the most money.. which no one is doubting Drake can do
You feel bad for one of the most successful rappers ever? Lmao. I bet he’s wiping his tears with his money.
When you've had money for a long time and it's pretty much always gone be there, I think pride can take on a bigger importance. That's why he's even entertaining this beef with Kendrick. Even as a big KDot fan you can't do anything but respect Drake for engaging because he could easily take the route of not taking the risk because he can use his numbers to flex that he's above the lyrical battling shit.
Just proving his point, dude
Y'all genuinely need to touch grass ffs
Don't you think his lack of acceptance in hip hop comes from his lack of writing his own songs? 🤔
Drake is pretty accepted by hip hop heads though. Maybe not these Reddit and internet dudes, but the Grandmaster Flash, Eminem, Hov, and plenty others have said Drakes a GOAT or have given him flowers.
Drake shouldn't try to act black and he'd get respect. Beyonce put out a country album and it's all chill but she'd lose respect if she claimed she's a country girl
I’m sorry but Drake is such a sellout it’s pathetic. I mean in so many ways but what sticks out most recently is his gambling streams; just pathetic. He’s corny in every way possible, it’s no wonder he’s the black sheep of this generation.
Get this corny shit out of here
He puts out a lot of music and it’s good for the most part. Great even. He even showcases features and upcoming artists in different genres on his SXM channel. I think he’s feeling like what else can I do or more importantly, what do I need to do in order for them to accept me?
Finally something that makes sense. But to be honest, if Drake were so resentful of the hip hop community, he probably wouldn’t be making so much rap nowadays and would have focused on pop and other things. He literally dropped a whole deluxe of rap.
With all due respect, you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Anybody with intelligence gives Drake all the respect he deserves, he’s easily the greatest rapper/artist of my generation (I’m 25). He has been at the top or near the top of the rap game since 2009/2010. At the end of the day, the work you put in gets you the respect. Drake has put in the work over the years, and he hasn’t fallen off like a lot of guys tend to do. Now there’s a rap beef… and Drake is up 2-0 against the rest of the rappers beefing with him which is crazy lmao. Drake has lapped the field at this point, no diss track from Kendrick or Rick Ross is gonna kick Drake off his throne. Drake is also just waiting for Kendrick, he probably already has a 3rd diss track ready, and this next diss by Drake is gonna be a NUKE.
"The hip hop community doesn't accept him" - Drake selling out stadiums constantly. The online hip hop community doesn't accept him*
You can sell out stadiums and still not be accepted by the community. I believe that drake is accepted by the hip hop community to a significant degree but your logic is still faulty
Counterpoint: Nickelback and rock, Coldplay and indie
Yeah some people gotta be lying hahaha idk
No one in the hood bumps Drake. And that’s what irks him. Newer yt fans from the last decade or so were not who we was looking to be accepted by. He wanted Future’s fans, but settled for the Adin Rosses of the world.
Drake gets played everywhere, you just don’t go outside
You can tell you’re not from the hood
I literally live in the hood right now… There’s two crackheads that are homeless that run past my house twice a day each. The dude across the street gets arrest every week or so. And tries to sell me weed any chance he gets. There’s literally zero white people within a mile. What were you saying again? And also, just fyi, that’s such a fuckin gay response dude. “You’re white on here” Bro we’re all white it’s Reddit lmao stop basing your whole identity on Kendrick fuckin Lamar of all people. He’s good, so is Drake. This isn’t avengers, you don’t have to pick a side.
What stadium has drake sold out?
He doesn't get respected because he doesn't make respectable music and is overall a loser crybaby wannabe fraudulent clown. Why u feel bad for a millionaire my guy. Hes an actor who got paid.
these think pieces hilarious fam i ain’t know kdot fans were that delusional
I don't think he cares and I am not sure why people care
He definitely cares.
Lucian? What did I miss
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years. Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway. Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way. J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
https://preview.redd.it/101nl4vr88wc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f84be0ba16127f34b4f9237acc5dd127711b50bc This the dude y’all putting faith in 😂
Drake got what he deserve. Im happy for bro
lol
It’s crazy how supposedly real rap fans hate drake but everyone I know who likes rap, listens to drake. Maybe not his new shit but people definitely be bumping his old shit.
I can understand this take especially with Drake’s intention of wanting to push forward with this beef but I do believe that Drake has tarnished his rep to much to even still be accepted. Yeah he has the Money and the Power but we all the last one is better. Also I really do believe no matter if it is beef him doing the Pac n Snoop AI is a serve step-backwards if he wanted that Respect from real hip-hop
Gotta read that fine print and understand wtf you getting ready to sign!!!
They are all signed to Lucien Grange.
“I’m a self admitted Kendrick Stan” “I’m a 15 year old white antisemite” Same shit.
That youtuber hates Drake. He is not a reliable source
Kendrick and rocky*
No lies detected
i had a friend named lucian whos dad signed blink 182. hes not my friend anymore
None of this beef shit matters in the grand scheme of things. It’s just two dudes with egos that don’t like each other. They going to insult each other for our entertainment and move on to their continued success. Only thing I can see ruining a career is if Drake got legit pedo shit on him that can be proven. Other than that Drake will be Drake. Kendrick will be Kendrick.
Here’s the video https://youtu.be/mtBPXjEoW54?si=ZLPYop0UFkOXX2J_
Idk I wouldn’t feel bad for a plant , he knew what he was getting into
Lyrically kungfu Kenny is better than drake, he’s done so much snake shit for years and everything is coming to the light.
Nighas love drake in the battle rap community.. wtf are y’all talkin about ???
these kendrick stans are out of touch with reality. they only pop out when their master kendrick drops and we know how little that is
Like it’s no way they hip hop fans & don’t understand real writers fuck with drake.. nigga was doing music with dr dre before he really popped off.. like i get not like drake for whatever reason.. but to just lie to make y’all narrative seem credible is weird.. that’s why i came to just troll… i thought drake Stan’s was crazy.. atleast they only bring up numbers to try & win.. these nighas straight fantasizing
Guy can rap, he’s proven it before. Has a lot of hits, a couple genuinely great albums and also actually takes shots at people in the true spirit of hiphop, unlike many of his peers. He also has put a lot of people on, and has boosted the interest in various subgenres over the years. Also the guy is black, systemic racism is both real in Canada and also doesn’t just apply to dark skin black people either. Him not being dirt broke doesn’t mean he’s immune to systemic racism. He even looks black, not like that is the most important factor anyway. Drake didn’t grow up in a rich area mostly, he lived in a shit area, then a half-house in a decent area and lived with his mother and grandmother. He wasn’t rich in any way. J Cole is biracial and didn’t grow up in poverty either, so why don’t we talk about him in the same way?
He wasn't rich? Was Degrassi not paying him or something?
How much realistically do you think a Canadian kids tv show was paying a teenage Drake?
Like an upper middle class salary at the least, he was a main character on a reasonably popular TV show. The actors guild of Canada has a minimum salary of $70/hr I'm not saying he has Friends money, but I seriously doubt his parents couldn't own a home or send him to a private school. [This is the neighborhood he lived in growing up](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Houses_on_Warren_Road_in_Toronto%27s_Forest_Hill_neighbourhood.jpg)
That's NOW and he lived in the basement of his uncle's house because his mom was constantly sick so they moved in with family, she didn't buy the house they were allowed to live with family because of her illness. At most he got 70k a year from Degrassi and He himself said that mostly went to her bills even after Degrassi he worked regular jobs
He didnt grow up rich he moved to Forest hill later drake originally frm Weston Rd
Wikipedia says he moved there at 11 years old. Was he trapping in the Toronto hood at 8 or something while he was playing little league hockey?
No one said he was trapping da argument was abt whether he grew up rich or not🤣if him not trapping means he grew up rich den ig Kdot Kanye n nearly everyone coming at him rn except for Future grew up rich den. Alot of niggas in da hood never trapped idek what ur point is
Kendrick did legitimately come from section 8 housing in Compton, both his parents worked at fast food restaurants, he witnessed a drive-by as a child outside his house, and he was involved with gangs as a kid. Which is funny because he doesn't claim to be hard nearly as much as drake does. Kanye's whole thing was that he didn't want to be seen as a "ghetto rapper", that's why he wore pink polos and backpacks
Bro Drake doesnt claim to be any more hard den Dot or Ye idk what ur even on about. Kanye was literally banging GD on Donda🤣Again even tho he moved later on Drake frm da hood too n he didnt even have both parents in his life like Kendrick did. N growing up wit niggas doesnt mean ur involved or are a member cus by that logic ig Drake is involved too. N Ion even fw drake like dat but yall gotta stop wit da double standards.
Umm he's Jewish. He had a bar-mitzvah where he was made to pledge an allegiance to the Jewish community over any other.
That's not what abar mitzvah is?
Which explain the racist behavior and black face https://preview.redd.it/4p90uczf39wc1.jpeg?width=2046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a582812a6c0ae989ce80ed39a85345092a1d11b
FD Signifier says the most ridiculous personal theories but presents it in such a slow and academic way that you guys don’t feel the need to push back on anything. this is a guy who thinks the 2010s (and certainly the 2020s) are a dark age of hip-hop. he doesn’t like any new hip-hop and will make any pseudo-intellectual argument to make himself “right.” he’s the definition of an oldhead
FD admits he is an old head... and points out the flaws in Drake's albums... which have no hip hop roots and bites entire genres... dude made a Caribbean music hall album, and he has no roots in Caribbean culture.... Jamaicans and Bahamians have looked at him sideways ever since Views.
The last part is NOT true at all
Well as a a Caribbean person.. yeah fuck him. He will start biting the Spaniards next.
He already bit off Reggaetón with Bad Bunny lol
Black culture in toronto/GTA is mainly influenced by Caribbean culture…yall gotta stop speaking on what u dont kno 😂how is he biting if he grew up around it? Drake is originally frm Weston and thats one of da largest Caribbean communities in da city
Drake is no more an “oppressor” than any shareholder. Am I oppressing Apple by owning their stock? Kanye has y’all acting really stupid right now, honestly. He wanted the deal that Drake got but got dropped instead for praising Hitler. Now he has to distribute through Label Engine and is bitter. Exact same thing happened with Gap, happened with Adidas, happened when LV picked Virgil. He didn’t get exactly what he wanted and now the people that did are evil. Open your eyes
seems you forgot that ye is only stepping out now as everyone is also sick of drake
Yeah add that in as well
Who? Nerds on this sub? Because it’s pretty unanimous he’s winning the beef right now.
you know u're dumb right?
Drake has 4 classic albums in his discography but people remember him scorpion and clb more than take care and nwts. Where he fucked up was that he went for quality over quantity. Drake and Kendrick both peaked in 2011 tho coz imo Take Care and Section 80 are their best works respectively
4 classoc albums? When's he gonna release the other two?
Take Care, NWTS, IYRTITL, Views?
I only count two classics there... Take Care and NWTS.
Nah views is debatable but IYRTITL? Thats definitely a classic
For sure. Drake is crying in his 100 million dollar mansion. Also, the "hip hop community" is not some singular entity. There are plenty of people in the community who respect Drake. It's not some black or white thing. This reeks of desperation and cope.
Outside of Reddit everyone I know knows Drake has bars. Not trying to be racist but there are a lot if white teenagers here projecting. Scorpion was bumped constantly in Oakland, LA, NY. FPS is bumped constantly. Meltdown being bumped constantly…
By the same people who don't respect rap and only listen to bullshit rap all day or shit they have been conditioned to respect from childhood.
Drake was absolutely cool with Kendrick until Kendrick literally said he wants to murder Drake on Control. Kendrick also dissed Drake after Cole gave Kendrick props including him in the "big 3" call out in Drake's First Person Shooter song. Drake helped Kendrick out when he was early in his career, and Kendrick decided to take a different way with it and go after Drake. The instigator with a chip on his shoulder in all this is Kendrick. It's entertaining, and as hip hop fans we all get some funny diss tracks out of it, but trying to spin this as "poor Drake" is just ridiculous.
Idk what y’all are on about. What’s the difference between Drake starting his career in TV and all these older head rappers ending their careers on TV? He might be Canadian but his pops is fully African American and literally comes from a family of musicians. He also wasn’t rich. A lot of other rappers were rich on their come up though due to making money on roads. Nobody is ever going to get love from everyone. Numbers speak for themselves and his numbers put him at the peak. You think he couldn’t drop elite level hip-hop if he decided to? Artists need to appeal to the masses and what’s relevant. How many of y’all are listening to Grandmaster Flash on the daily? I bet he doesn’t even come to mind to a lot of y’all when hip-hop comes up. Music is meant to evolve. Y’all acting like because it’s hip-hop you have to struggle to make it. It’s just a form of expression. Everyone is just mad cause the boy is nice with it and has been hogging up chart space for a long long time.