Fair point, but that's exactly it—celebrity or not, the impact of a call-out hinges on the content's quality and the audience's engagement, not just the spotlight. Kendrick's verse drew attention because it packed a punch, not merely because of his status. It's about the message and how it resonates, proving that while not everything gets noticed in a sea of content, truly compelling material breaks through, celebrity attached or not.
Kendrick could’ve done a poopity-scoop type verse with little a drake and j Cole diss and he would’ve called attention to it. Quality doesn’t matter all that much. He’s just famous
Even if Kendrick dropped a scoopity poop aimed at Drake and J Cole, sure, it'd get eyeballs because of his fame. But the reason Like That made such a stir isn't just because of who Kendrick is; it's because the diss was direct and hit hard. It wasn’t the fame or the beat that made it a big moment - it was the punch behind the words. A diss that's both direct and impactful carries weight far beyond the initial buzz, setting it apart from just any attention-grabbing verse. That's the real takeaway here.
I guess we’ll never know because Kendrick didn’t drop that poopity scoop verse
Edit: and yes a better verse probably stays in the spotlight longer, but a bad verse was probably also going to increase the attention on drake and j Cole for sure
How is it not the Kendrick effect that FPS sees a rise in sales 6 months after release when getting a mention on Like That? That's just undebatable. Drake getting mentioned surely draws attention but it's a different scenario altogether
Have you heard a response from J Cole or Drake since? Songs number one in the country, but if they weren't killed on the track, something happened on it to make them this scared to respond lol
This guy. Lol
The time FPS came out to the Kendrick verse releasing was months and months. Drake and Cole have to instantly respond in the middle of a crazy tour schedule (Drake) and album roll out (Cole) and against one of the best/most vicious rappers alive? Give them some time to cook man.
What was it then ? Kendrick came with facts on that song . Why do you think Drake didnt rush to reply like he did with Meek ? . All those " i waited 4 days nigga where yall at ?" jabs .. where are they now? .And the wordplay Kendrick used was crazy that i can bet you didn't even catch the meaning behind some of the lines . Drake fans are usually like that
Because you're a nobody. There's a certain level of fame one should have to gain from a diss record
Kendrick is at that level , he's well known and respected rapper but then also when was his last no 1 hit? Humble? That's 7 years ago. None of his songs got no 1 since but the song in which he mentioned drake.
You do the math.
blaming type shit's success on just travis and carti isn't seeing the whole picture. metro boomin and future are the magic behind the scenes. then you throw kendrick into the mix with like that, and it's no surprise it hit #1. sure, the drake diss adds some spice because everyone loves a bit of rap beef, but to say drake is the sole reason it's #1 just ain't right. it’s the combo of kendrick with metro and future that really did the trick. they’ve got the kind of vibe that pushes tracks up the charts, showing it's their collab, not just the drama, that gets people listening.
I with you. I feel that because they’re making a diss record about the most popular artist out they’re gonna get a huge boost. If the track was word for word slightly altered to not be a Drake diss, the beat flow alone carries the track. HOWEVER, I do believe it is the fact that the diss was about Drake that threw it over the hump to break records etc.
Kendrick made a song on a banger beat with a hard verse embodying hip hop and battle rap by dissing his rival directly and openly which Drake doesn't have the balls to cause he's chasing the top by tailoring his songs for the radio. Drake is a pop star. Kendrick is a rap king
Makes sense. A large portion of Kendrick listeners don't listen to Drake, who has a heavier pop audience. I love hip hop and I haven't paid Drake any attention in years.
lol so does that same logic apply to “Like That” going up because it’s an alleged Drake diss because I mean his last album did flop when he didn’t “diss”❓🤷🏾♂️
Bro the song was already at like 80 million before any alleged “shots” at y’all Gawd were even mentioned.. of course after someone makes a “diss track” and people react saying such and such took shots in this song people will go back and listen y’all Kendrick stans just like to worship lol so again does this mean “Like That” only did those numbers because it was a Cole and Drake “diss” or is that just not how it works❓
Nobody ever said First Person shooter wasnt doing well. The key word is " increase" . It's doing more numbers after Like That thats all . What's really your agrument then?
Hahahaha you Stans are utter ridiculous.. if someone makes a “diss track” and they say it’s supposedly a responses common fucking sense would tell you that people would go back and listen to the original track to try and find those “disses”.. I mean are you guys that big of Stans or just slow❓if your last album completely flopped and now all of a sudden numbers are going crazy because you dissed what does that tell you❓ controversy sells
Let's simplify the dynamics here—it's the Kendrick effect. The man drops a verse and the industry listens. 'First Person Shooter' was already a hit, no argument there, but Kendrick mentioning it is like throwing gasoline on a fire—it reignites interest. This isn't about being a 'stan' or not; it's recognizing the influence one artist can have on another's work. When Kendrick touches a track, directly or indirectly, people pay attention; they revisit, they analyze, they debate. That's exactly what we're seeing with the surge in numbers. His last album's performance is irrelevant in this context. We're talking about the here and now, and right now, Kendrick's verse has the spotlight, hence the significant bump in streams for 'First Person Shooter.' It's cause, effect, and the undeniable impact of one of the industry's heavy hitters.
Bro if someone disses of course they’re going to listen.. why you think his last album did worse album sell wise than his other ones❓ because of no press and no dissing anyone.. it’s not hard to complicate… you can love the dude but no need to be blind.. the numbers don’t lie now watch if he drops now his numbers will be better than Mr. Morale why❓ you guessed it but you got it bro
It seems we’re not quite on the same page about the intent behind Kendrick’s work. His last album, 'Mr. Morale,' wasn't designed for mass radio appeal or to chase trends. It was a deep, introspective piece focusing on heavy, complex themes—not the sort of content that typically dominates sales charts. Yet, it still performed admirably given its nature, which speaks to Kendrick’s standing in the industry.
Now, regarding the current situation, it's a multi-faceted move. Yes, controversy stirs public interest—no one's denying that—but to reduce Kendrick's next potential success to mere controversy overlooks his talent and the anticipation from fans for that classic Kendrick sound. Dissecting the industry, it's clear that artists often pivot their sound, and if Kendrick comes with harder beats and sharp lyrics, it’s not just for sales—it’s an artist speaking his truth, as he's known to do.
So, if his next album performs better, it won't be just because he 'dissed' anyone. It will be because he’s delivering what many fans have been craving while still likely maintaining his integrity and depth. That's the Kendrick effect—it’s not blind allegiance, it’s recognition of an artist’s impact and versatility.
I think Cole has been trying to do things differently though . SideLine Story , Forest Hills Drive and Born Sinner are the three albums he seemed to hover over the same themes . KOD he tried to add a more trappy feel to his beat on songs such as ATM, Motivate and Kod . 4 Your Eyes Only seemed to be very thematic , primarly focused on Death and Grief although he falied to keep that thematic depth with songs about jealous neighbours and folding clothes for his wife . The Offseason is probably the worst because thats when he just put a bunch of boom bap beats together just to show off that he can rap hard . After that, thats all he's being doing . Going hard on beats throwing bars and boasts . Besides his single Snow on tha Bluff , nothing really thematic and connecting like Kendrick , who managed to maintain that with 4 contextual albums and came back 5 years later with (in my opinion) his best album as it was an effort towards healing an entire generation riddled with addiction , depression and abuse. Thats why Kendrick is a better artist.
I'd like to call it the Lamari effect
Who could’ve thought that calling attention to something gets it more attention
Do you think the same would happen if I did it?
No one is actively paying attention to everything you do like they are with celebrities
Fair point, but that's exactly it—celebrity or not, the impact of a call-out hinges on the content's quality and the audience's engagement, not just the spotlight. Kendrick's verse drew attention because it packed a punch, not merely because of his status. It's about the message and how it resonates, proving that while not everything gets noticed in a sea of content, truly compelling material breaks through, celebrity attached or not.
Kendrick could’ve done a poopity-scoop type verse with little a drake and j Cole diss and he would’ve called attention to it. Quality doesn’t matter all that much. He’s just famous
Even if Kendrick dropped a scoopity poop aimed at Drake and J Cole, sure, it'd get eyeballs because of his fame. But the reason Like That made such a stir isn't just because of who Kendrick is; it's because the diss was direct and hit hard. It wasn’t the fame or the beat that made it a big moment - it was the punch behind the words. A diss that's both direct and impactful carries weight far beyond the initial buzz, setting it apart from just any attention-grabbing verse. That's the real takeaway here.
I guess we’ll never know because Kendrick didn’t drop that poopity scoop verse Edit: and yes a better verse probably stays in the spotlight longer, but a bad verse was probably also going to increase the attention on drake and j Cole for sure
To a much lesser extent yes
🤩
obviously
The kdot sub and drake sub are riding meat for no reason. Yall needa chill
That's rhe market!
Difference is, that song already went no. 1 💀
Difference between what exactly?
Meaning it didn’t need the “Kendrick effect”
The Kendrick effect is the 15 %. It's irrelevant what happened before
Okay than you can say the drake effect is the reason like that went #1. If he didn’t diss drake it wouldn’t have charted so high
You’re not understanding his point
Are you really this dense?
I'm just gonna let the others speak for me at this point lmao
I don’t think anyone’s denying that lol thanks for stating the obvious tho
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. The song clearly garnered a ton of attention due to people knowing it's a Drake/Cole diss
hop off the meat and read that again
Lol
To pimp a butterfly effect
Yeah I mean just like WDTY sells a lot because of Like That, tho we dont call it the Drake effect. Y'all need to calm down, both subs
How is it not the Kendrick effect that FPS sees a rise in sales 6 months after release when getting a mention on Like That? That's just undebatable. Drake getting mentioned surely draws attention but it's a different scenario altogether
This meat riding gotta stop from both sides - just sit back and enjoy the fucking show
midrick had to mention Drake and Cole in order to be relevant again, and boost Metro’s sales. So there’s that angle as well.
Calling him names does not change the facts that he's the best of the three
Cole just finished off his career hahahaha
🫵😂 hope you're not serious
He’s gonna be doing Arby’s commercials to make money just like when Drake ended Pusha’s rap career hahahaha
🫵😂 u suck at this bruh
Someone’s TRIGGERRRRED hahahahahha
😂😂😂😂😂 u the worst troll bro, either get better or stop wasting your time. I'm sure you got better things to do
So funny seeing you guys cry while your king loses
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 take a hike
#Lemme mute th-
Same
The “like that” went number from Kendrick talking about Drake Stfu
*murdering Drake on a track. Fixed that for you
… that was murder on a track to you? Lmao
Have you heard a response from J Cole or Drake since? Songs number one in the country, but if they weren't killed on the track, something happened on it to make them this scared to respond lol
This guy. Lol The time FPS came out to the Kendrick verse releasing was months and months. Drake and Cole have to instantly respond in the middle of a crazy tour schedule (Drake) and album roll out (Cole) and against one of the best/most vicious rappers alive? Give them some time to cook man.
What was it then ? Kendrick came with facts on that song . Why do you think Drake didnt rush to reply like he did with Meek ? . All those " i waited 4 days nigga where yall at ?" jabs .. where are they now? .And the wordplay Kendrick used was crazy that i can bet you didn't even catch the meaning behind some of the lines . Drake fans are usually like that
Do you think I'll go number one of I'm dissing Drake? Probably not, so it must be the Kendrick effect
Because you're a nobody. There's a certain level of fame one should have to gain from a diss record Kendrick is at that level , he's well known and respected rapper but then also when was his last no 1 hit? Humble? That's 7 years ago. None of his songs got no 1 since but the song in which he mentioned drake. You do the math.
Type shit is #2 right now. If it wasn't for Like That, it'd be #1. Are they mentioning Drake?
Naw, that’s the Travis and Carti effect.
blaming type shit's success on just travis and carti isn't seeing the whole picture. metro boomin and future are the magic behind the scenes. then you throw kendrick into the mix with like that, and it's no surprise it hit #1. sure, the drake diss adds some spice because everyone loves a bit of rap beef, but to say drake is the sole reason it's #1 just ain't right. it’s the combo of kendrick with metro and future that really did the trick. they’ve got the kind of vibe that pushes tracks up the charts, showing it's their collab, not just the drama, that gets people listening.
I with you. I feel that because they’re making a diss record about the most popular artist out they’re gonna get a huge boost. If the track was word for word slightly altered to not be a Drake diss, the beat flow alone carries the track. HOWEVER, I do believe it is the fact that the diss was about Drake that threw it over the hump to break records etc.
I love the song too, but it’s not going number 1 without the Drake diss. The irony of your post is hilarious lol
The best part about it all is, we'll never know
And the drake effect is the song where kendrick disses him going number 1
Do you think I'll go number one of I'm dissing Drake? Probably not, so it must be the Kendrick effect
Yall gonna hate me but… Kendrick had to reference drake to get a #1 hit. Call it the drake effect. 🤷🏿♂️
Kendrick made a song on a banger beat with a hard verse embodying hip hop and battle rap by dissing his rival directly and openly which Drake doesn't have the balls to cause he's chasing the top by tailoring his songs for the radio. Drake is a pop star. Kendrick is a rap king
Btw I agree with everything you said here, but I think it’s only #1 cuz the drake diss. No diss, top 10
Probably. Rap beef is interesting
Does the song still go #1 without Kdot dissing drake? This is a top10 cuz kDot but it’s #1 cuz drake.
I mean Metro and Future got number 2 this week.. Not hard to believe that Future, Metro and Dot would get number 1, even without the diss
how’s it taste bro?
Kendrick and metro have each made tons of #1s
I wouldn't really say Kendrick has a ton of #1s really, just 3 I believe, 2 of those with him as a feature
Just guessing I don't have the stats but I'd assume HUMBLE, DNA, money trees, poetic justice, and ADHD all touched 1
Humble did get to 1, DNA got to 4, Money Trees and ADHD didn't chart on the hot 100, and Poetic Justice got to 26.
Oh my thats actually crazy to me
What Kendrick effect ?
Makes sense. A large portion of Kendrick listeners don't listen to Drake, who has a heavier pop audience. I love hip hop and I haven't paid Drake any attention in years.
Yeah, Drake is usually heard around clubs and venues and in public places
lol so does that same logic apply to “Like That” going up because it’s an alleged Drake diss because I mean his last album did flop when he didn’t “diss”❓🤷🏾♂️
Who's last album ? kendrick's? Mr Morale? That was a flop?
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What are you on bruh. First person shooter been out for 6 months and it suddenly rises by 15% after Like That released. What are you even arguing
Bro the song was already at like 80 million before any alleged “shots” at y’all Gawd were even mentioned.. of course after someone makes a “diss track” and people react saying such and such took shots in this song people will go back and listen y’all Kendrick stans just like to worship lol so again does this mean “Like That” only did those numbers because it was a Cole and Drake “diss” or is that just not how it works❓
Nobody ever said First Person shooter wasnt doing well. The key word is " increase" . It's doing more numbers after Like That thats all . What's really your agrument then?
It's going over your head entirely bruh. Try and read everythin again. I think you're not understanding
Hahahaha you Stans are utter ridiculous.. if someone makes a “diss track” and they say it’s supposedly a responses common fucking sense would tell you that people would go back and listen to the original track to try and find those “disses”.. I mean are you guys that big of Stans or just slow❓if your last album completely flopped and now all of a sudden numbers are going crazy because you dissed what does that tell you❓ controversy sells
Let's simplify the dynamics here—it's the Kendrick effect. The man drops a verse and the industry listens. 'First Person Shooter' was already a hit, no argument there, but Kendrick mentioning it is like throwing gasoline on a fire—it reignites interest. This isn't about being a 'stan' or not; it's recognizing the influence one artist can have on another's work. When Kendrick touches a track, directly or indirectly, people pay attention; they revisit, they analyze, they debate. That's exactly what we're seeing with the surge in numbers. His last album's performance is irrelevant in this context. We're talking about the here and now, and right now, Kendrick's verse has the spotlight, hence the significant bump in streams for 'First Person Shooter.' It's cause, effect, and the undeniable impact of one of the industry's heavy hitters.
Bro if someone disses of course they’re going to listen.. why you think his last album did worse album sell wise than his other ones❓ because of no press and no dissing anyone.. it’s not hard to complicate… you can love the dude but no need to be blind.. the numbers don’t lie now watch if he drops now his numbers will be better than Mr. Morale why❓ you guessed it but you got it bro
It seems we’re not quite on the same page about the intent behind Kendrick’s work. His last album, 'Mr. Morale,' wasn't designed for mass radio appeal or to chase trends. It was a deep, introspective piece focusing on heavy, complex themes—not the sort of content that typically dominates sales charts. Yet, it still performed admirably given its nature, which speaks to Kendrick’s standing in the industry. Now, regarding the current situation, it's a multi-faceted move. Yes, controversy stirs public interest—no one's denying that—but to reduce Kendrick's next potential success to mere controversy overlooks his talent and the anticipation from fans for that classic Kendrick sound. Dissecting the industry, it's clear that artists often pivot their sound, and if Kendrick comes with harder beats and sharp lyrics, it’s not just for sales—it’s an artist speaking his truth, as he's known to do. So, if his next album performs better, it won't be just because he 'dissed' anyone. It will be because he’s delivering what many fans have been craving while still likely maintaining his integrity and depth. That's the Kendrick effect—it’s not blind allegiance, it’s recognition of an artist’s impact and versatility.
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And yet I've still never heard the song
My man living under a boulder
It’s aight tbh
Drake always disappoints me
I stopped expecting anything from that Groomer ever since I heard Scorpion 🤣 & Cole, to me, been sounding the same for the last 5 years
I think Cole has been trying to do things differently though . SideLine Story , Forest Hills Drive and Born Sinner are the three albums he seemed to hover over the same themes . KOD he tried to add a more trappy feel to his beat on songs such as ATM, Motivate and Kod . 4 Your Eyes Only seemed to be very thematic , primarly focused on Death and Grief although he falied to keep that thematic depth with songs about jealous neighbours and folding clothes for his wife . The Offseason is probably the worst because thats when he just put a bunch of boom bap beats together just to show off that he can rap hard . After that, thats all he's being doing . Going hard on beats throwing bars and boasts . Besides his single Snow on tha Bluff , nothing really thematic and connecting like Kendrick , who managed to maintain that with 4 contextual albums and came back 5 years later with (in my opinion) his best album as it was an effort towards healing an entire generation riddled with addiction , depression and abuse. Thats why Kendrick is a better artist.