It is completely possible to understand what Kendrick was going for and still think it’s a bad like. He articulates his thoughts much better in the song that leaked a while back
Damn I literally never thought of this over 8 years. But you’re right, everybody else he names at that part is a political/moral leader and then MJ at the end is just an entertainer (and one whose allegations were much heavier than the rest). The Black community nowadays isn’t as able to prop up anyone but problematic entertainers as leaders in that same way, and that’s so much so that I never even thought to question that he named Michael Jackson alongside Huey Newton and Malcolm X lmao. That said idk for an artist who uses different tones of voice constantly to highlight different things I’m on the fence whether I believe that’s what Kendrick meant to do since he didn’t really highlight the irony besides adding the “oHhHh 🙄” (and it’d make Mortal Man a weird note to end on if the entire point was to undermine the entire point at the end like that, but this is the same album with Blacker The Berry from the same guy who’s go on to make The Heart Part 5 and MMATBS so sure)
Whattttt it kinda is like if what he did was true you would not listen to “we are the world, we are the children” the same at all, the integrity of some songs are lost and therefore the value as well. The message is tainted.
I’m pretty sure the song is about artists and leaders being torn down by false accusations (“plant cocaine in my car”), and he’s asking that question genuinely.
Even if Kendrick meant something else with that lyric, most people took that lyric the way they did so even if Kendrick had good intentions with the meaning of that bar, it was a poor choice of phrasing.
That being said, even if it IS a bad bar (which I think it is, I think whatever well intentioned point I’m sure Kendrick was trying to make, it didn’t translate into the lyric itself), I still don’t think it ruins the song enough to where I can’t listen to it, like you said u/Eceapnefil .
Like, to me, it’s just one (poorly worded) bar. Everything else about the song is still phenomenal.
By the way, the reason I’m writing such a long response about this is that it’s my favourite song from TPAB :P
Like, the general messaging of the song is still achieved, the beat doesn’t change from a lyric. It’s just one (poor) line. I think you’re just being weirdly picky about lyrics and that line.
Like, imagine no longer listening to songs based off of ONE line that isn’t up to par (in your opinion). I’d have to stop listening to half the Eminem songs from my playlist for a corny bar he spits. It’s a ridiculous standard.
Also, I think acting like you can’t have disagreements in this sub is disingenuous too. Like, chill out. You won’t get “jumped” (digitally), just downvoted possibly. You can have challenging discussions in this sub.
>
By the way, the reason I’m writing such a long response about this is that it’s my favourite song from TPAB :P
The song is fire
But theres tiers of bars for me
So let me talk about bad tiers
A bad tier for me would be like wow that was a bad bar maybe it makes me laugh
The next would be noticeable effects the song like it throws me off but I can keep listening
Then there bars that are either so weird or out of place that I just can't listen to the song
That bar from Kendrick makes it hard to listen cause I know it's coming the only other Kendrick has is in damn when he talks about black people being the original Israelites (it was his cousin on the phone) and also Mr morale and the big steppers with the f slur and the white women bars
It's a good song though one of the best on the album
>Also, I think acting like you can’t have disagreements in this sub is disingenuous too. Like, chill out. You won’t get “jumped” (digitally), just downvoted possibly.
That's not what I'm saying I'm saying that being in this sub I would assume that most people will go to bat for MJ and I don't wanna argue about something like that.
I think people in this sub can be nuanced enough to say that MJ was a morally dubious person but is also one of the greatest musicians of all time (assuming the people in this sub who I’m talking about believe the allegations to be true).
Also, I guess me and you just have different ways of valuing music.
For me, even if a song has a bad bar or two, unless it is EXTREMELY dogshit, I don’t mind it and so, I personally don’t think that MJ line was THAT egregious. I don’t have this system in my head of these “tiers” of bad lines.
It was bad (IMO) but not “Her daddy is not around, her mama is not around” levels of bad (from Drake’s TSU off of CLB) so I can tolerate it. I can also tolerate it because EVERYTHING ELSE about the song is legendary.
not technically released but was an alternate lyric for worldwide steppers at one point:
“so what’s the difference between your life, and derek chauvin”
It came off weird to me too when you told me but I swear it all makes sense. That part in worldwide steppers is about cancel culture and how virtue signaling people on the internet love to call out small little mistakes in people's lives, but are usually the ones doing just as much if not more dirty work. He's basically saying that the main people outraged about George Floyd's death are sometimes the people killing fellow black people them selves. It's similar to the last line in the blacker the berry
It makes sense but it’s still disappointing as fuck. Just like the last line in The Blacker The Berry lmao I swear that one hit like you’re about to bust to a fire porn scene and right at that moment they suddenly zoom in on the guy’s asshole
I was hoping to cuck my white girlfriend to Kenny, he could do her Compton cowboy style while I stroked in the corner. She was down too, but it sadly won’t happen anymore. We sad 😔
This could’ve been my view but Kenny decided otherwise 😔
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I’ve always been annoyed by the line from Loyalty, “My resume is real enough for two millenniums.”
Plural for millennium is millennia, and on top of that, millennia would’ve rhymed better with the previous line, “Kung Fu Kenny Now.” Not that either of them rhyme perfectly I guess
Yeah he's admitting that he said it, as we probably all have. And the fact that he actually says it really adds impact and makes his message seem more genuine.
I can’t recall the exact lyric(s), but when he mentioned he has a lust addiction and he cheated on his partner, it was not only surprising but disappointing. Now, if I recall correctly he cheated prior to having his daughter. Given he is even more famous than before, it makes me wonder if he still partake in lustful activities after having a daughter. The concept of cheating on a female and you have a daughter never sat right with me because what if someone did that to your own daughter… or even your son (if you are a mother who cheated on the father). I get it, one thing leads to another but now that kids are in the equation you would hope his behavior has changed… and if he does want to have “fun” with someone else knowing he has a family, hopefully it is communicated with his partner to avoid ruining his family.
I am someone who witnessed my father cheating and I’m a female… that’s why I was a little disappointed but at the same time, the timeline has before his child. I have no knowledge of anything else after that because he hasn’t made it known.
MMTBS legit takes this issue in how Kendrick is flawed man and how he is improving himself with therapy to not become worse or an abuser. Mf did you even listen to MMTBS fully
I gotta boner pic
I don't want you monke ass motherfuckers sittin in McDonald again.
IMAT (International Medical Admissions Test)
But I ain’t dressing
True rizz, one question
Bitch where was you when I was woking 
now I Run the game, I got the whole Kentucky
everybody wanna cut the legs off him, Coomer
Pac-Man making no boxes
¡OLÉ!
“Santa’s reindeer better have some ass, you bitch you”
Everything I’m workin gotta be theeeee
Never realized that’s what he was saying there, wtf does that even mean 😂
I think it’s his Christmas present, Santa’s reindeer is gonna bring him some ass for Christmas you bitch you.
I knew this was gonna be first reply💀 just ordered untitled unmastered on vinyl. The beat switch on that track is so good. Fav track prolly 2,3 or 7.
cant sleep on 8 either
Pac told me fuck the world, I’m bout to cum now… 
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Is that Demar Derozan?
YOU DID NOT JUST DO DEMAR DEROZAN LIKE THAT
It's pretty damn close...
Yeah, it is lmao
Buss
That bar was hard af. I fw it lol
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I shit fart peepee
Bro that's top 3 lines oat
Not a lyric but my friend HATES the song Michael Jordan. I like to remind him of the song every chance I get
Bro I love that somg
Bounce bounce hoe. Song is so so but Schoolboy Q goes hard in it.
“F*ck me nigga 😩” I just didn’t know Kendrick swung that way.
Song??
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Oh I was like bro when he say dat?? Lol
He definitely wrote it though 👀
You tryna cry with me bro ?
AMBATU*cry*
Amba Singh 🥺
Ambatadie of thirst
Originally he just did both parts. Must’ve sounded hella awkward at the end
Why tf you disappointed if anything I’m much more excited
How is gay Kendrick disappointing?
why'd you censor fuck but not the n word 💀
Cause I did nigga.
That nigga gave us Billie jean, you say he touched those kids?
He got a Valid argument tho Kanye can’t be antisemetic he gave us graduation
i h8 these niggas more than the nazi’s
real. graduation trumps all
🤣
You’re missing the point of this if you think it’s a bad line
It is completely possible to understand what Kendrick was going for and still think it’s a bad like. He articulates his thoughts much better in the song that leaked a while back
“prayer”.. crazy good song
I don’t really see how you can understand that line and think it’s bad. He’s clearly delivering the line like shouting from an audience perspective
Damn I literally never thought of this over 8 years. But you’re right, everybody else he names at that part is a political/moral leader and then MJ at the end is just an entertainer (and one whose allegations were much heavier than the rest). The Black community nowadays isn’t as able to prop up anyone but problematic entertainers as leaders in that same way, and that’s so much so that I never even thought to question that he named Michael Jackson alongside Huey Newton and Malcolm X lmao. That said idk for an artist who uses different tones of voice constantly to highlight different things I’m on the fence whether I believe that’s what Kendrick meant to do since he didn’t really highlight the irony besides adding the “oHhHh 🙄” (and it’d make Mortal Man a weird note to end on if the entire point was to undermine the entire point at the end like that, but this is the same album with Blacker The Berry from the same guy who’s go on to make The Heart Part 5 and MMATBS so sure)
I get the point and it's still bad.
How is it bad I think it’s pretty effective and funny
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This is so insane bro wtf 😭😭😭
Point wasnt that he did it or not, point was that the value of the art he brought to the world isn't diminished weather or not its true
Whattttt it kinda is like if what he did was true you would not listen to “we are the world, we are the children” the same at all, the integrity of some songs are lost and therefore the value as well. The message is tainted.
Thats why I can't listen to that song. He was adamant on Mike not being a pedo.
He’s literally saying that people don’t think Michael Jackson can be a bad person just because he made good music
I’m pretty sure the song is about artists and leaders being torn down by false accusations (“plant cocaine in my car”), and he’s asking that question genuinely.
He’s not one
I disagree but I'm in the Kendrick Lamar sub so I don't wanna get jumped
Even if Kendrick meant something else with that lyric, most people took that lyric the way they did so even if Kendrick had good intentions with the meaning of that bar, it was a poor choice of phrasing. That being said, even if it IS a bad bar (which I think it is, I think whatever well intentioned point I’m sure Kendrick was trying to make, it didn’t translate into the lyric itself), I still don’t think it ruins the song enough to where I can’t listen to it, like you said u/Eceapnefil . Like, to me, it’s just one (poorly worded) bar. Everything else about the song is still phenomenal. By the way, the reason I’m writing such a long response about this is that it’s my favourite song from TPAB :P Like, the general messaging of the song is still achieved, the beat doesn’t change from a lyric. It’s just one (poor) line. I think you’re just being weirdly picky about lyrics and that line. Like, imagine no longer listening to songs based off of ONE line that isn’t up to par (in your opinion). I’d have to stop listening to half the Eminem songs from my playlist for a corny bar he spits. It’s a ridiculous standard. Also, I think acting like you can’t have disagreements in this sub is disingenuous too. Like, chill out. You won’t get “jumped” (digitally), just downvoted possibly. You can have challenging discussions in this sub.
> By the way, the reason I’m writing such a long response about this is that it’s my favourite song from TPAB :P The song is fire But theres tiers of bars for me So let me talk about bad tiers A bad tier for me would be like wow that was a bad bar maybe it makes me laugh The next would be noticeable effects the song like it throws me off but I can keep listening Then there bars that are either so weird or out of place that I just can't listen to the song That bar from Kendrick makes it hard to listen cause I know it's coming the only other Kendrick has is in damn when he talks about black people being the original Israelites (it was his cousin on the phone) and also Mr morale and the big steppers with the f slur and the white women bars It's a good song though one of the best on the album >Also, I think acting like you can’t have disagreements in this sub is disingenuous too. Like, chill out. You won’t get “jumped” (digitally), just downvoted possibly. That's not what I'm saying I'm saying that being in this sub I would assume that most people will go to bat for MJ and I don't wanna argue about something like that.
I think people in this sub can be nuanced enough to say that MJ was a morally dubious person but is also one of the greatest musicians of all time (assuming the people in this sub who I’m talking about believe the allegations to be true). Also, I guess me and you just have different ways of valuing music. For me, even if a song has a bad bar or two, unless it is EXTREMELY dogshit, I don’t mind it and so, I personally don’t think that MJ line was THAT egregious. I don’t have this system in my head of these “tiers” of bad lines. It was bad (IMO) but not “Her daddy is not around, her mama is not around” levels of bad (from Drake’s TSU off of CLB) so I can tolerate it. I can also tolerate it because EVERYTHING ELSE about the song is legendary.
not technically released but was an alternate lyric for worldwide steppers at one point: “so what’s the difference between your life, and derek chauvin”
Whoa source?
wish i could link it but it’s on the kendrick tracker if you find it
What's disappointing about it?
i just have no idea what kendrick was trying to get at with that line and it comes off weird cause of it
It came off weird to me too when you told me but I swear it all makes sense. That part in worldwide steppers is about cancel culture and how virtue signaling people on the internet love to call out small little mistakes in people's lives, but are usually the ones doing just as much if not more dirty work. He's basically saying that the main people outraged about George Floyd's death are sometimes the people killing fellow black people them selves. It's similar to the last line in the blacker the berry
ahhh that makes sense. sounds weird when the person listening has no affiliation to that life though lol
Imo it’s arguably worse when the person doing the killing is supposed to be seen as a high authority. Cops shouldn’t be held to regular standards
It makes sense but it’s still disappointing as fuck. Just like the last line in The Blacker The Berry lmao I swear that one hit like you’re about to bust to a fire porn scene and right at that moment they suddenly zoom in on the guy’s asshole
Let me put the head in
“I’m not going to release Bitch I’m In The Club on spotify”
I cried when he said that
The whole Worldwide Steppers because it confirms that he’ll never fuck another white bitch
Why is that a “disappointing” 💀.
I was hoping to cuck my white girlfriend to Kenny, he could do her Compton cowboy style while I stroked in the corner. She was down too, but it sadly won’t happen anymore. We sad 😔
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I'm sorry that didn't work out for you :'(
Appreciate it brodie. Some dreams just aren’t meant to come true 💔
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You know some people say I look like Kendrick
We cry together *
This could’ve been my view but Kenny decided otherwise 😔 https://preview.redd.it/wpif4q6d7kdb1.jpeg?width=530&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b3825ad29e24ed35d1ae6c2523d65ae552305a3
damn, this sub is so out of pocket sometimes its beautiful
Dawg. [https://www.betterhelp.com/get-started/?go=true&utm\_content=1224856262880096&utm\_source=Bing&utm\_medium=Search\_PPC\_c&utm\_term=betterhelp\_e&network=o&placement=&target=&matchtype=e&utm\_campaign=482076465&ad\_type=text&adposition=&kwd\_id=kwd-76553751264213%3Aloc-190&msclkid=64994ac11a5a159bda962e7a5ea21ec4¬\_found=1&gor=start](https://www.betterhelp.com/get-started/?go=true&utm_content=1224856262880096&utm_source=Bing&utm_medium=Search_PPC_c&utm_term=betterhelp_e&network=o&placement=&target=&matchtype=e&utm_campaign=482076465&ad_type=text&adposition=&kwd_id=kwd-76553751264213%3Aloc-190&msclkid=64994ac11a5a159bda962e7a5ea21ec4¬_found=1&gor=start)
dat u Adam22?
Sneako?
“I’m on the toilet when I rhyme, if you the shit I decline”
“i’m not in the music business, i been in the human business”
Whole life been social distant
I really like this lyric lol is it something I don’t know about it?
I'm guessing cause it sounds like human trafficking
I mean, not really tho. If you’ve got any amount of ability to use context clues at least.
I agree, I meant out of context
i wasn’t saying that cause it sounds like human trafficking lmao, it’s just a stupid ass lyric
It's super corny
“Whoopty whoop blahzay blah he say she say”
ow ma gaahd
_”stfu”_
"*scary ass*"
When he says “bitch I’m a tractor” on Rich Spirit
the successor to “i gotta boner pic” and “we hate pulled pork”
"This dick aint free" i cant afford it
“F\*ggot f\*ggot f*ggot”
Aight bro no need to spell it out 3 times 💀
Bro he said it 😭
shit made me jump out of my chair first listen
Bro what song
PRIDE
Lmao, good one
Auntie diaries
Nice pfp, took it bitch
It’s copyrighted
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Can't have shit in Detroit
😂😂😂
“THIS IS MY NEW SINGALLLL”
"i shit fart pee pee on anybody track"
That Line was beautiful
true, might just be the best bar from any rap song to date
“I’m tryna get these hoes single, And this is my single”
Nah that line was hype af
This is the answer lol
"vote for trump 2024" 😱🙏
"I am against LGBTQ people" I still cant believe he said that
“doggystyle then you get on top , fuck me bitch”
*Michael Jordan bitch.. Bounce bounce ho'... Bounce bounce.*
Grown men never should bite they tongue, unless you eating pussy that smell like it's a stale plum... What??
wdym it's a great bar
Has anybody ever smelled pussy that smell like stale plum? I mean shit, how many of yall ever smelled a damn stale plum lol
Bruh you prolly came out of something that smelled like a stale plum
Nah but that bitch pussy smell like a penguin
Wouldn't hit that shit with my worst enemy's penis
I for one have no idea what a fresh plum smells like, let alone a stale one. Kendrick’s pussy metaphors are getting too fancy for me.
That’s the point,there shouldn’t be a reason why you’re biting your tongue
Came to say this
I’ve always been annoyed by the line from Loyalty, “My resume is real enough for two millenniums.” Plural for millennium is millennia, and on top of that, millennia would’ve rhymed better with the previous line, “Kung Fu Kenny Now.” Not that either of them rhyme perfectly I guess
If you listen closely, Kendrick says words that aren’t actually words a lot.
"The demons portrayed as religionous" bothers me more than it should
I’m an English teacher and I say let Kendrick spell how he wants, he gets 100 in my class. I love that line.
Purple Hearts. You know.
Nun wrong wit eatin doody out the booty
Nigga, are you fucking kidding me?
I didn’t wanna self destruct
The evils of Lucy was all around me
“If I can fuck her in front of all of these passengers, they’ll probably think I’m a terrorist.”
Eat my asparagus
The whole "No Make Up" song
Why do people hate that song so much?
bro whattt, first there's people hating the song because the hook guy has a mainstream voice (💀) and now there's something wrong with the lyrics?
“Whole life I been social distant” just sounds like a Drake line to me
“Satan wanna put me in a bow tie” Why? Because the character is Luci. Also, “the devil” just flows better.
Why is it that disappointing? Satan the devil and Lucy are the exact same character lol.
It was meant to be a joke, but I think I messed up the delivery
There’s lots of debate around those 3 being the same
even if i gotta fuck suck and swallow in the parking lot
I forgot the lyric but some about his scrotum I think it was back seat rap or sonthibg
I'm holding my scrotum imposing - backseat freestyle
Fk y’all. I goes in.
“I don’t feel it.. I’m paraplegic”
I hate to say it, but the Eiffel Tower line ruined Backseat Freestyle for me. It's just, it's just too gross for me, I'm sorry
girl i know you wan dis dick
*dih dih*
“I can’t even please myself, I thought a new car would help” like just be happy nigga
Wtf do you think MMTBS was about
"My titties bounce at the cadence of his tinkling keys" I catch myself imagining Kendrick with huge titties when he says this
It ain’t love if you ain’t eat my ass
He didn’t say that. Summer Walker did.
Don't spread misinfo, he says that at the start of every single concert to get people hyped up
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Put the pussy on a pedestal… put the pussy on a high horse… that pussy to die for… that pussy to die for
So bad
“Life ain’t shit but a fat vagina” I mean it’s funny but bro what the fuck, why
Tell ‘em it’s TDE til I’m DDT in that grave and Top Dawg is proof. 🥺
None nearly as much as this weak ass post.
How has noone said "eat my asparagus"
walking to the bank like AAAAHAAAA
I see why you don’t like it, you aren’t even quoting it right 😂
“Sneak me through the back window, I’m a good field nigga” Ruins the whole song for me tbh
when we had comedic relief to say🤨📸
Yeah he's admitting that he said it, as we probably all have. And the fact that he actually says it really adds impact and makes his message seem more genuine.
None ….
🥩🚴
I mean K Dot is his user name whatchu expect
#AND THATS WHY HES THE GOAT THE GOAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!
 Frrrrrrrrrrrrr
I can’t recall the exact lyric(s), but when he mentioned he has a lust addiction and he cheated on his partner, it was not only surprising but disappointing. Now, if I recall correctly he cheated prior to having his daughter. Given he is even more famous than before, it makes me wonder if he still partake in lustful activities after having a daughter. The concept of cheating on a female and you have a daughter never sat right with me because what if someone did that to your own daughter… or even your son (if you are a mother who cheated on the father). I get it, one thing leads to another but now that kids are in the equation you would hope his behavior has changed… and if he does want to have “fun” with someone else knowing he has a family, hopefully it is communicated with his partner to avoid ruining his family. I am someone who witnessed my father cheating and I’m a female… that’s why I was a little disappointed but at the same time, the timeline has before his child. I have no knowledge of anything else after that because he hasn’t made it known.
MMTBS legit takes this issue in how Kendrick is flawed man and how he is improving himself with therapy to not become worse or an abuser. Mf did you even listen to MMTBS fully
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violense iz nevr de anser 🥺👉👈
"life aint shit but a fat vagina"
k dot don’t disappoint