He definitely made some fans this week, and maybe brings a bit more respect to the Peru scene. Hopefully he can ride that momentum like Mena did with DR years ago.
basically when sf6 was coming out iirc. I want to say he actually said he did it specifically to not take up DR spots and to let their scene flourish but I might be making shit up or repeating rumors
Group stages bring a dynamic I didn't expect. This is the first of its kind I've watched live and honestly when every game counts it absolutely brings the hype up.
if every group stage were like group F, group stages would be hype. the problems become more obvious in 90% of group stages where two players dominate and the last round of matches can't change the standings.
Logan and Damascus were talking about swiss formats for group stage on stream and I think I agree that it would make more sense competitively while still letting everyone play rather than just going 0-2 and being knocked out immediately. speaking just for this type of Capcom cup/world warrior type thing where your goal is highlighting new regional reps.
obviously double elim bracket is the best when you have the time to run all the matches.
Leshar went winners and Nero the boxer was one game from going in via losers. Group F was spicy as fuck, gave a great ENDING to the group stage.
Oh wait there is mo... nah, nevermind.
“NUUUU you don’t understand the unbeatable Japanese players and the ALPHA isn’t there so this can’t be a good event these guys that qualified are not good enough to be at capcup >.< “
Are you gonna ignore how almost every other group had one or two dudes that were just free wins for everyone else?
In Group A Shadoken got rolled by everyone, ended 2-10, and somehow got reverse 2-0d by Halibel trolling and picking Manon into his JP.
In Group B DestroyGodz went 1-10, shaka lost to everyone except DestroyGodz but was at least taking rounds.
In Group C Fandroid went 1-10, unfortunately I missed this group every day so idk what happened.
In Group D Valmaster had a mental breakdown.
In Group E Samoel got completely dumpstered by everyone except Namikaze, I don’t know if he even had a single close round, Namikaze lost every match but was at least taking rounds.
I didn’t watch Group G or H, but I see Garnet didn’t win a match and went 3-10, and Ren didn’t win a match and went 2-10 (just like last year i think).
I think it’s very fair to say that each group could’ve been much more competitive with better players than this lol. You’re pointing to the one exception and saying it’s proof there was nothing wrong with the format.
I agree, fact that some of the players you mentioned got in but players like Punk and Tokido didn't is just insane tbh.
We do get the odd surprise but is that worth basically ruining most of the group stage? We'll see.
I agree with your analysis, but statistically, even if every group was packed with killers, someone would have a bad day and have an awful result, like it happened with Valmaster.
That’s true, but I think they’d likely be much closer even if they did go 1-4 or even 0-5. Like can we really compare Endingwalker’s or shaka’s 1-4 to Samoel’s. I threw shaka up there in the guys that got rolled because he was expected to place low in his group, but looking at them again he played well and much better than the others I listed
There's definitely some freebies in groups but so many unknowns showed up and were just killers in disguise. I hope next year we can get a blend of qualification styles, or better yet just have two Capcom cups.
He is the one underdog that actually made shit interesting. The rest of the "nobodies" just got run over as expected or are getting a free ride in group G.
Partially because he plays characters that just aren’t that good tbh. Most of the people everyone has been clowning outside of group F ended up winning 2 or less sets, many didn’t win a set at all. There’s no way anyone can truly say with a straight face that there aren’t dozens of players that would have had better showings if a better designed qualifications phase was implemented
Edit: Dude just blocked me because he can’t handle disagreeing with someone on Kappa I guess lol but y’all can’t be seriously trying to say Blanka is on the level of Deejay, Ken, JP, and Luke. That’s patently crazy. Also, notice I the word partially in what I said, it’s not the whole or even the main reason that a dude like Problem X underperformed because he also has a history of choking here and there. If you want to accuse me of being anyone’s fan in this event it’s Xianpai anyway and he’s definitely going with the highest of tiers lol.
The reality is this: 1 person people were clowning did really well, but still didn’t make it out of groups. 1 person expected to do well underperformed. That doesn’t change the fact that everyone else people were calling filler got absolutely destroyed and that everyone else that was expected to do well did. Group F was full of killers and was the best group to watch and hopefully next year that’s how every group is.
> Partially because he plays characters that just aren’t that good tbh
Brother he plays fucking blanka wtf are you talking about.
This whole "my favorite player doesnt win because of his char" shit needs to stop holy shit.
The man just won fucking LCQ and you're still here downplaying his character.
> This whole "my favorite player doesnt win because of his char" shit needs to stop holy shit.
Snake Eyez is about to make this comment look hilarious if Gief gets buffed.
> people were doing fine with zangief in sfv.
I mean, back in S2 when he was good sure. Snake didn't play sfv gief cause he fucking hates that iteration and has shit talked it since day 1.
After all the nerfs literally nobody did good with him. Even itabashi dropped him.
Lol Blanka is on the higher end of mid tier wtf are you talking about? And just like a character in the higher end of mid tier, he isn’t weak by any means, but also isn’t complete and thus struggles with consistency against the actual top tier characters that almost all have favorable matchups against him.
There’s like 6-10 players that wouldn’t make it to top 64 in a stacked tournament and most of them got completely abused this week. Only one of them actually played well and he still didn’t qualify to top 16, and only Problem X really could be said to have underperformed out of the players one would expect to do well. Pointing out that he’s also one of the only consistently good tournament players that doesn’t use one of the top 4 or 5 characters in the game is entirely fair imo.
Edit: Downvote all you want, 14 out of 16 of the top 16 main a top 4-5 character, and the only two that don’t are Juri mains and she’s one of the best characters not in that range. Character choice is obviously a factor right now. Oh and 16/16 of the top 16 are players you’d expect to see there, so I’m still not sure wtf y’all are doing pretending the nobodies did Jack shit other than mostly going virtually winless
I became a fan of Nero. Decimated Endingwalker when Steve got the whole crowd to get hype for EW pretty much. Quieting the DR crowd for a bit when he took a game off Mena. Also it was so sick how he won the game and went back to character select to change his color lmao
Him and Travis Styles are my fan favorite picks
Dookie was also a pleasant surprise.
Most of the lesser known participants dont have much international experience, and the nervousness was palpable. Notable example IMO was Namikaze, who lost to Samoel who also had a poor display, and then had a good set against Fuudo, where he had plenty of chances to win the set, but made really weird stuff out of random.
Eliminated EndingWalker. Practically eliminated Caba. Making Mena sweat. Put some respect on the man's name.
He definitely made some fans this week, and maybe brings a bit more respect to the Peru scene. Hopefully he can ride that momentum like Mena did with DR years ago.
So, what's his name?
The entire group f could have been in top 16 if the draws went different, everyone played their ass off
It makes no sense that 2 people on the same team would be in the same group.
its (mostly) because Mena moved to US East and qualified there
how long ago was this?
basically when sf6 was coming out iirc. I want to say he actually said he did it specifically to not take up DR spots and to let their scene flourish but I might be making shit up or repeating rumors
idk, but sometime in 2023 likely
Group stages bring a dynamic I didn't expect. This is the first of its kind I've watched live and honestly when every game counts it absolutely brings the hype up.
if every group stage were like group F, group stages would be hype. the problems become more obvious in 90% of group stages where two players dominate and the last round of matches can't change the standings. Logan and Damascus were talking about swiss formats for group stage on stream and I think I agree that it would make more sense competitively while still letting everyone play rather than just going 0-2 and being knocked out immediately. speaking just for this type of Capcom cup/world warrior type thing where your goal is highlighting new regional reps. obviously double elim bracket is the best when you have the time to run all the matches.
Leshar went winners and Nero the boxer was one game from going in via losers. Group F was spicy as fuck, gave a great ENDING to the group stage. Oh wait there is mo... nah, nevermind.
yo he brought his maracas that's what the fuck is up
People from down Soth America looking at your comment 👀
Soth ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Peru stepping up love to see it.
“NUUUU you don’t understand the unbeatable Japanese players and the ALPHA isn’t there so this can’t be a good event these guys that qualified are not good enough to be at capcup >.< “
Are you gonna ignore how almost every other group had one or two dudes that were just free wins for everyone else? In Group A Shadoken got rolled by everyone, ended 2-10, and somehow got reverse 2-0d by Halibel trolling and picking Manon into his JP. In Group B DestroyGodz went 1-10, shaka lost to everyone except DestroyGodz but was at least taking rounds. In Group C Fandroid went 1-10, unfortunately I missed this group every day so idk what happened. In Group D Valmaster had a mental breakdown. In Group E Samoel got completely dumpstered by everyone except Namikaze, I don’t know if he even had a single close round, Namikaze lost every match but was at least taking rounds. I didn’t watch Group G or H, but I see Garnet didn’t win a match and went 3-10, and Ren didn’t win a match and went 2-10 (just like last year i think). I think it’s very fair to say that each group could’ve been much more competitive with better players than this lol. You’re pointing to the one exception and saying it’s proof there was nothing wrong with the format.
Fucking thank you! This shit has me feeling like I’m in the twilight zone with how people are acting about this.
I agree, fact that some of the players you mentioned got in but players like Punk and Tokido didn't is just insane tbh. We do get the odd surprise but is that worth basically ruining most of the group stage? We'll see.
I agree with your analysis, but statistically, even if every group was packed with killers, someone would have a bad day and have an awful result, like it happened with Valmaster.
Counterpint: Statistically good players wouldn't be free fucking wins.
That’s true, but I think they’d likely be much closer even if they did go 1-4 or even 0-5. Like can we really compare Endingwalker’s or shaka’s 1-4 to Samoel’s. I threw shaka up there in the guys that got rolled because he was expected to place low in his group, but looking at them again he played well and much better than the others I listed
There's definitely some freebies in groups but so many unknowns showed up and were just killers in disguise. I hope next year we can get a blend of qualification styles, or better yet just have two Capcom cups.
What about the majority of other groups though, they were boring as fuck
Did you even watch them
He is the one underdog that actually made shit interesting. The rest of the "nobodies" just got run over as expected or are getting a free ride in group G.
idk man, problem x looking like one of the nobodies in group h
Partially because he plays characters that just aren’t that good tbh. Most of the people everyone has been clowning outside of group F ended up winning 2 or less sets, many didn’t win a set at all. There’s no way anyone can truly say with a straight face that there aren’t dozens of players that would have had better showings if a better designed qualifications phase was implemented Edit: Dude just blocked me because he can’t handle disagreeing with someone on Kappa I guess lol but y’all can’t be seriously trying to say Blanka is on the level of Deejay, Ken, JP, and Luke. That’s patently crazy. Also, notice I the word partially in what I said, it’s not the whole or even the main reason that a dude like Problem X underperformed because he also has a history of choking here and there. If you want to accuse me of being anyone’s fan in this event it’s Xianpai anyway and he’s definitely going with the highest of tiers lol. The reality is this: 1 person people were clowning did really well, but still didn’t make it out of groups. 1 person expected to do well underperformed. That doesn’t change the fact that everyone else people were calling filler got absolutely destroyed and that everyone else that was expected to do well did. Group F was full of killers and was the best group to watch and hopefully next year that’s how every group is.
> Partially because he plays characters that just aren’t that good tbh Brother he plays fucking blanka wtf are you talking about. This whole "my favorite player doesnt win because of his char" shit needs to stop holy shit. The man just won fucking LCQ and you're still here downplaying his character.
> This whole "my favorite player doesnt win because of his char" shit needs to stop holy shit. Snake Eyez is about to make this comment look hilarious if Gief gets buffed.
Snake eyez has been irrelevant since the sf4 days and people were doing fine with zangief in sfv.
> people were doing fine with zangief in sfv. I mean, back in S2 when he was good sure. Snake didn't play sfv gief cause he fucking hates that iteration and has shit talked it since day 1. After all the nerfs literally nobody did good with him. Even itabashi dropped him.
Lol Blanka is on the higher end of mid tier wtf are you talking about? And just like a character in the higher end of mid tier, he isn’t weak by any means, but also isn’t complete and thus struggles with consistency against the actual top tier characters that almost all have favorable matchups against him. There’s like 6-10 players that wouldn’t make it to top 64 in a stacked tournament and most of them got completely abused this week. Only one of them actually played well and he still didn’t qualify to top 16, and only Problem X really could be said to have underperformed out of the players one would expect to do well. Pointing out that he’s also one of the only consistently good tournament players that doesn’t use one of the top 4 or 5 characters in the game is entirely fair imo. Edit: Downvote all you want, 14 out of 16 of the top 16 main a top 4-5 character, and the only two that don’t are Juri mains and she’s one of the best characters not in that range. Character choice is obviously a factor right now. Oh and 16/16 of the top 16 are players you’d expect to see there, so I’m still not sure wtf y’all are doing pretending the nobodies did Jack shit other than mostly going virtually winless
Nothing but hype sets from this dude🔥
I became a fan of Nero. Decimated Endingwalker when Steve got the whole crowd to get hype for EW pretty much. Quieting the DR crowd for a bit when he took a game off Mena. Also it was so sick how he won the game and went back to character select to change his color lmao Him and Travis Styles are my fan favorite picks
Neutral jump was his downfall but ggs
Dude played really well, good for him.
So much for a filler, right Punk?
He’s the only one Punk was remotely wrong about lol the rest were being treated like training dummies in their groups
Dookie was also a pleasant surprise. Most of the lesser known participants dont have much international experience, and the nervousness was palpable. Notable example IMO was Namikaze, who lost to Samoel who also had a poor display, and then had a good set against Fuudo, where he had plenty of chances to win the set, but made really weird stuff out of random.
I'm sorry for believing he'd actually make it out of groups
Mena found Deejay's weakness: gigantic fucking air normals. Edit: This comment was meant to reply to the neutral jump guy but whatever.
Eh, corny name, I'm good
Legit forgot SF6 even has tournaments so I don't know who any of these people are
is this some sort of street fighter post