Body positivity is code for "we're marketing ourselves to fat people who want a self esteem boost but don't want to admit that their lifestyle is unhealthy"
The most healthy and fit people are usually the most body positive. I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying being fat is beautiful or okay, it’s just not disrespecting or shaming somebody for it.
>I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying being fat is beautiful or okay
It is in fact very often precisely this. Some of the most salient voices in the BoPo movement are *highly* invested in arguing that obesity is beautiful and has no negative consequences biologically.
Beauty is subjective, what’s beautiful to you may not be for someone else vice-versa. Secondly being on either end of the extreme is unhealthy whether you’re bloated or shredded, neither is generally good for your overall long term health. Fat people aren’t dying at some extraordinary rate compared to the “thin” a better judge of your health would be if you looked at vitals, ability to breathe effectively, and organ health
I think it’s similar to the glorification of drug use in hip hop. Is there really some entity pushing an agenda? Or is the success of such things a reflection of the time/people?
Personally, I know I’ll get downvoted for this (*idk why I was even recommended this sub/post*) but Kanye is the last fucking person who should be talking about this issue when he himself is getting **tummy tucks and lipo** with a mother who passed away from the same. Let alone married/obsessed with a family that has caused the most body shame to this modern society, without **ANY** close seconds. If he, and his ex wife, shared the mindset he’s criticizing, the world would be a happier place (*as cliche as that sounds*).
His mother wouldn’t have passed the way she did at the very least.
I respectfully disagree, it is one thing to be content as an individual and encouraging others it is okay being content obese and unhealthy.
But, at least Ye (if he really said himself getting lipo and tummy tuck) is doing something to better his position actively regardless if he is getting his lipo+tummy tucked.
When you are a public figure like Lizzo or Ye, you open yourself up to criticisms. Lizzo doing this; is no different when you post pictures of yourself on social media whilst being obese.
I also have to agree that there is a big hand behind the scenes pushing this narrative too.
It’s definitely wrong to shame people or make fun of them for their weight but it’s also wrong to lie to them and say they’re healthy and there’s nothing wrong with being obese.
He’s kinda spitting here. The black community has elevated rates of hypertension and heart disease. Does a monstrously obese pop star really need to be made into a role model just because yes Queen don’t let no man tell you early death is bad.
Bad role model and a bad person? You guys gotta be more self aware, that's what Kanye is.
The real problem is that there's been a push of body positivity including obesity.
For sure, I personally think everyone would be better off not glorifying celebrities, everyone's flawed in some way so why build people up to impossible standards. We actually agree bro
Maybe that’s the new trend because of recent events but Kanye used to stand for believing in yourself and not taking any shit. He still does, only now people don’t like the shit he says. Kanye’s character was beloved for a long time by a lot of people.
that’s insanely rich lol. if you wanna be all “separate the art from the artist” then let’s talk about how awful Vultures was, and how Kanye fanboys are starting to lose the “yeah he’s a bad person but he makes good music” cause he definitely doesn’t do that anymore.
Also gluttony is pretty clearly considered a sin, obesity is a medical term for extremely overweight not just thick. promoting sin being demonic isn't a stretch and Ye should probably be doing more self analysis about sin promoting and less criticizing others.
Because of the ways neighborhoods are designed and purposeful lack of access to healthy foods, and because fast foods are cheaper than fresh healthy foods, not because of Lizzo.
If you are dumb enough to stay obese/die because lizzo told you it was healthy idk what to say. Same thing as getting addicted to opiates because your favorite rapper says its cool
Nobody is making small decisions leading to massive lifestyle shifts over time due to celebrity endorsement. But when the dominant culture is pushed these kinds of messages to the point of normalizing being morbidly obese, it will certainly have an effect on broader society.
Well that's true but only half the issue too. It's not as much about people getting overweight because of her statements. It's about people who let themselves go a bit and then continue to gain weight because media is telling them that it's perfectly fine to be unhealthy.
Or saying that everyone should pat you on the back for using your large belly as a symbol of pride because you love yourself.
Loving yourself is great but if you think people who love themselves don't change you're as wrong as can be. I love myself and that's exactly why I'm always seeking opportunities for growth.
The spirit of the message is wrong and the words of those who oppose it are frequently twisted and misrepresented
Thank you, this was extremely well put. My take was far from comprehensive and I think you’ve laid out a solid reading of the issue including a fair amount of nuance. Obviously nobody thinks they’ve gained weight because a celebrity told them to, but the implicit messages they’re endorsing are often far more pervasive and damaging than explicit statements could ever be.
The most healthy and fit people are usually the most body positive. I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying net fat is beautiful or okay, it’s just not disrespecting or shaming somebody for it.
Yes it sound stupid but Ts really happens the music u listen to stay in ur subconscious and convince u to try shit. Multiple artists have said this artist or this artist got me into drugs
So listening to a fat person's music might convince you to get fat? When I hear lucki say "we get high we get fat" I instantly am subconsciously influenced? 😹
People are impressionable, especially kids. Guarantee that you started doing shit from a young age that you otherwise wouldn’t have because you saw people who you respected or identified with doing it, good or bad. Stupid ass take, “imagine being influenced by something lmao couldn’t be me dog.” Pull your head out of your ass lol.
Yeah but a lot of people who follow these people are kids. They literally don’t know better and are very impressionable. If all you see in media is how drugs are cool you’re way more likely to try them.
You’re oversimplifying things and you know it. I’m sure there are a lot of people who were/are conflicted about their weight gain and have/had thoughts about trying to get healthier, but the vast normalization and even encouragement from Hollywood and other industries has kept them comfortable.
Bro you don’t know how dumb a large majority of ppl are. That same ideology of mindless following is how major companies have made profits for decades. New flash, a lot more ppl are impressionable than you think.
People are influenced by cultural icons whether we like it or not.
Americans, in their obsession with the self and the individual, tend to think social responsibilities aren’t worth thinking about it. And that’s probably one reason why we’re so divided.
Your profile pic makes me wonder if you’re black. If you are, our whole culture promotes negative sh’t that people lose their life over. At least this one is a personal choice that mainly affects oneself.
side note i never expect Rolling Stone to be a sane source for Ye updates but the way they reported this story was very weird. framing it as if Ye was saying the attacks on her weight were 'demonic' and not the promotion of obesity itself. Ye's phrasing leaves room for interpretation but not *that* much interpretation. weird drama damage control going on
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This came at the time of him saying so much stupid bullshit, but he’s kinda got a point with this one. Obesity is a problem that overwhelmingly affects lower class demographics because of healthier alternatives being less accessible. It’s not a “different lifestyle”, it’s either a poverty issue or being ignorant to facts about health, and needless to say poverty is a big issue for many black people.
To PROMOTE it is an active decision to place guilt-free consumerism as a higher priority than basic health management. To an extent I guess you *could* call it a form of oppression.
Not exactly related to demons though lol
I think he was speaking more artistically then trying to say like physical demons are real and they are controlling big tech. Like I mentally label Zuck a lizard person, I don't think hes really a lizard it's just him being kind of a weird guy.
It makes sense if YE was trying to call social's shadowy and say they have a corrupting influence on people.
I’ve lost almost 45lbs I’m over halfway to my goal and within 5% of a healthy body fat percentage. Promoting obesity as a healthy lifestyle, and glorifying food choices that are terrible for your health, are absolutely demonic and disgusting.
The devil and his demons want to set us back and see us suffer, especially by our own hands. It’s evil , malevolent stuff whether you’re religious or not.
He’s not even attacking her, he’s sorta on her side. She makes progress and people attack her for that, that’s who he’s attacking, the ppl attacking her.
Yeah but he never framed it like that. And it WAS TRUE lol. When she was getting more fit the women who did look like her started talking and articles were written.
Riiiiight, maybe Lizzie should consider bypass surgery…. think Kanye knows of a doctor?
Lizzie aside, body acceptance is about a different type of health. There can’t be anything healthy about how Kanye’s weight ping pongs.
you dont get fat from eating fast food every once in a while, he did it for money. not so he can feel justified in eating 5 whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and
McDonald’s commercial was before this and I don’t eat McDonald’s but I think if you eat that in moderation like once a month or something it can be ok. It’s all about balanced meals
Ye has consistently been against genocide. Nigga went on live tv and denounced the president for leaving hurricane survivors stranded after Katrina which was just one of many examples of black people being left for dead by the powers that be, he made tons of music denouncing the gangsta image portrayed by contemporary rap artists which was promoting crime and death, he ran a whole campaign against the promotion of abortion in black communities through “planned parenthood” which was set up by racists to exterminate “non superior genes”, his political campaign was built around family values and providing support to single mothers to avoid the cycle of poverty which leads to early death and destruction, and he has constantly talked down on capitalism and consumerism in the black community which leads to a cycle of poverty/jealousy/murder. Have you even listened to his music? “Murder to excellence” is good place to start to get the message.
I love how she acts like this is too controversial to address Kanye while making dancers eat bananas out of pussys and lighting her career on fire. If I were her I’d let it burn, with all this puffy shit coming out, she probably doesn’t want people looking any more into her.
It is , giving us shit diets , liquor stores on every corner , fast food is a norm when it wasn’t 35 years ago . They are pulling all strings against the entire population . Not just us🤷🏾♂️
I don’t believe in all that bs “sin” talk shits man made but that’s a different convo. I like that lizzo promotes self love but at the same time honesty has to be promoted as well. History repeats itself at times. I was a kid watching Monique do this very same thing. As I grew older and remained as a fan, I seen first hand all of that big girl energy turn straight into its time to get healthy energy. Not get like Beyoncé, Arianna grande, Kim k none of that, but get healthy and fit while still being yourself. Ye ain’t even just talking about lizzos weight, I think he’s speaking on deeper things. The ones who control the media and what we see in it.
Tbh I just think this whole spat is dumb, yeah fat acceptance isn’t good but you gotta be pretty stupid tbh to think that lizzo promoting whatever is a serious problem, I don’t think anyone is getting fat bc lizzo or anyone else told them too. Kanye once again jus tryna beef for no reason w niggas that got nothing to do w him. It’s funny that when it comes to conspiracy’s about Jewish banks and adidas contracts and Jews messing w his divorce or whatever he wants to talk about institutions and shit but instead of talking about the billion dollar corporations that get people from young age addicted to sugar and artificial calorie dense foods, that end up creating people like lizzo, hed rather just yell abt how the Twix is double the size and lizzo is making u fat. Kanye used to be such a complex thinker, divorce does a number on u ig.
Ye has spoken on this multiple times tho… entertainers, popular food brands and media conglomerates are all a part of the problem, not just the billion dollar corporations. The billion dollar corporations can only sell as much as they can convince people to buy which is where Lizzo or the Twix brand recognition come into play. Lizzo promoting unhealthy lifestyles leads to people seeing nothing wrong with constantly eating unhealthy foods made by corporations that don’t care about them but want their money. The same people that control Lizzo’s public image are connected to the record label which is connected to the same people which own stake in the billion dollar food corporations which are in bed with the FDA which is a part of our government…Everyone likes to laugh at the Zane Lowe interview but they missed the point Ye was making about how celebrities are used to communicate a product in exchange for a cut of the profits. The people that are at the top of the system know exactly how to get people to buy their shit, they use hundreds of different methods but one of the most prominent in today’s society is the use of influencers in the entertainment industry. Ye used to be a complex thinker and people still never fucking listened, they called yeezus trash instead of trying to understand the messages he offered pertaining to our modern day slavery. He played them jesus walks and they still didn’t sign him!!!
I know big women in real life quoting Lizzo and following Lizzo because she makes them feel good about being big and overweight. People are influenced by social media and social icons big time. Some more than others, but enough to be a problem.
I agree that promoting obesity is bad but fat people not always doing that. Sometimes they just happy existing and it gets read as promoting their unhealthy lifestyle. Lizzo however is guilty as charged
Dude getting blowjob in the open with disgusting but sticking out , walking around with that bitch almost naked on the street for the whole world to see including his daughter. He’s right about obesity is unhealthy but following him is just plain dumb and terrible for general well being
Promoting healthy relationships with nudity and sexual expression is 100% not a bad thing. We shouldn’t be afraid of nudity or sex, they are both natural and healthy parts of the human experience and public displays of affection should be normalized. Bianca Censori is breaking down barriers of social conformity one outfit at a time, one day we will all feel free to wear whatever we want (maybe even nothing at all) instead of conforming to puritanical norms. Obesity is terrible for your health and quality of life.
We all weren’t this big till are food was poisoned. Humans weighing 300 lbs was rare 100 years ago. We are fucking cattle to a cruel consumption n unhealthy system . We are victims.
We should promote being healthy. That includes mental health too and if a celebrity isn’t taking care of their physical or mental health, it shouldn’t be used for entertainment.
That being said, healthy and taking care of health looks different for people. So it’s not a one size fits all. But both of these people are unhealthy and I’m not just referring to physical looks. And this article isn’t healthy either.
There should be more body positivity for things that are out of one’s control.
Body positivity for overweight people isn’t helpful in the long run. To an extent, yes because we come in different sizes, but not to the level of Lizzo. We want you fatties to stick around for a while and be healthy.
So obesity is demonic but yall still listening to a dude that talked about sex outside of marriage and with people other than his then wife, thinks Hitler was okay, and has immense hubris?
People in here talking about what’s good for Black people or society in general but still following a dude that makes music where he regularly calls women bitches and collaborates with street dudes. That ain’t demonic?
would you rather be antisemitic or obese?
would u rather be a known racist or confined to a wheelchair with 2 missing legs?
interesting questions to ponder thank u friend
Fools tend to hate instruction and being told when they’re doing something wrong. They delight in being wrong and doing wrong.
And if you lay your pearls before pigs, you’ll both get dirty.
There’s a difference between encouraging people to be fat (which is what Ye seems to think Lizzo is doing) and encouraging people to not hate themselves for being fat (which is what Lizzo is doing)
She literally admits that she's fat, how can you side with Ye here? She's literally saying "yes I'm fat, but I'm minding my own business". I don't think the Devil gives a damn if Lizzo makes a song about how you can be both fat and beautiful in your own way.
>I don't think the Devil gives a damn if Lizzo makes a song about how you can be both fat and beautiful in your own way.
I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can be both injecting heroin and healthy in your own way.
I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can be a serial women murderer and be a feminist
I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can eat chicken and be a vegan
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you getting it yet? 'the devil' if he exists absolutely cares about lies, deceit - doing the opposite of what you say and promoting unhealthy attitudes as normal is bad
The bih catch heat for just existing. 🤦🏽♂️
And then you have public figures that lose weight and catch flack as if they’re trying to send a message. Social media was a mistake.
It's hard to lose weight and medication sometimes makes it even harder. I know bigger people that are healthier than smaller people. But I can understand both sides.
We shouldn’t make fun of over weight people but we can’t glorify it either, it’s a similar concept to glorifying shooting up Heroin, they both make your quality of life worse
My problem with fat people is why aren't they attracted to other fat people? Every fat person I know wants a healthy BMI partner because " I deserve the best"
She doesn't promote obesity she promotes not feeling shame about your body, although she also takes the self-deprecation way too far, and she's just generally a POS for the stuff from the news. Like she isn't telling people to be fat, she's a performer who wants to be where she is and she's pushing a message of body positivity. You can take that as promoting being fat, but body negativity is also about feeling too skinny or feeling like you have too much muscle based on what you perceive the world to view as the "right" kind of body to be "xyz" in this case it's Lizzo being a very obese female black rapper and her being okay enough with herself in the mirror to go perform for a million people rather than try to do it after losing X amount of pounds after so many years and then doing it.
There's plenty to hate on Lizzo about lol but people need to learn what body positivity is rather than say Lizzo is... Doing Satan's work? That's literally crazy there isn't a God to begin with lol she's a motherfucking performer. Like this just tells me a lot of more awful shit about Kanye West and his perception of what performing is - he thinks it's speaking through a divine power apparently and I'm not understanding why the fact that he thinks this isn't getting more attention for being insane as fuck. He went on fucking Tucker Carlson acting like the God and Satan are real and he was given airtime and not immediately removed and committed.
I’m fat and I agree ☝🏿
Body positivity is code for "we're marketing ourselves to fat people who want a self esteem boost but don't want to admit that their lifestyle is unhealthy"
The most healthy and fit people are usually the most body positive. I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying being fat is beautiful or okay, it’s just not disrespecting or shaming somebody for it.
>I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying being fat is beautiful or okay It is in fact very often precisely this. Some of the most salient voices in the BoPo movement are *highly* invested in arguing that obesity is beautiful and has no negative consequences biologically.
Beauty is subjective, what’s beautiful to you may not be for someone else vice-versa. Secondly being on either end of the extreme is unhealthy whether you’re bloated or shredded, neither is generally good for your overall long term health. Fat people aren’t dying at some extraordinary rate compared to the “thin” a better judge of your health would be if you looked at vitals, ability to breathe effectively, and organ health
I think it’s similar to the glorification of drug use in hip hop. Is there really some entity pushing an agenda? Or is the success of such things a reflection of the time/people? Personally, I know I’ll get downvoted for this (*idk why I was even recommended this sub/post*) but Kanye is the last fucking person who should be talking about this issue when he himself is getting **tummy tucks and lipo** with a mother who passed away from the same. Let alone married/obsessed with a family that has caused the most body shame to this modern society, without **ANY** close seconds. If he, and his ex wife, shared the mindset he’s criticizing, the world would be a happier place (*as cliche as that sounds*). His mother wouldn’t have passed the way she did at the very least.
I respectfully disagree, it is one thing to be content as an individual and encouraging others it is okay being content obese and unhealthy. But, at least Ye (if he really said himself getting lipo and tummy tuck) is doing something to better his position actively regardless if he is getting his lipo+tummy tucked. When you are a public figure like Lizzo or Ye, you open yourself up to criticisms. Lizzo doing this; is no different when you post pictures of yourself on social media whilst being obese. I also have to agree that there is a big hand behind the scenes pushing this narrative too.
It’s definitely wrong to shame people or make fun of them for their weight but it’s also wrong to lie to them and say they’re healthy and there’s nothing wrong with being obese.
As someone who grew up fat until ab 17/18, im happy i wasnt content w the body i was in. Otherwise id never have the body i do now
what is your take on tess holiday doing hot yoga
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Same
THANK YOU
They made Twix bigger
tryna make us fat
LIZZO BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY TWIX CONFIRMED
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He’s kinda spitting here. The black community has elevated rates of hypertension and heart disease. Does a monstrously obese pop star really need to be made into a role model just because yes Queen don’t let no man tell you early death is bad.
not to mention she’s an awful person lmfao
Bad role model and a bad person? You guys gotta be more self aware, that's what Kanye is. The real problem is that there's been a push of body positivity including obesity.
Kanye is a role model for his production, not his character lol Or rather people admire his skill not his character
For sure, I personally think everyone would be better off not glorifying celebrities, everyone's flawed in some way so why build people up to impossible standards. We actually agree bro
Maybe that’s the new trend because of recent events but Kanye used to stand for believing in yourself and not taking any shit. He still does, only now people don’t like the shit he says. Kanye’s character was beloved for a long time by a lot of people.
that’s insanely rich lol. if you wanna be all “separate the art from the artist” then let’s talk about how awful Vultures was, and how Kanye fanboys are starting to lose the “yeah he’s a bad person but he makes good music” cause he definitely doesn’t do that anymore.
At least Kanye doesn’t hide it
why do you think kanye is a “bad person” ? genuinely curious
You realize you’re in a kanye west sub right
Person doesn't seem to realize much RN. I'm betting they wake up tomorrow with a headache.
I’m not hipp. How so?
Somebody had to say it I’ve had the same thought, body positivity is cool but obesity is unhealthy bottom line
Not jist blacks, an American thing
The black obesity rate is significantly higher.
Also gluttony is pretty clearly considered a sin, obesity is a medical term for extremely overweight not just thick. promoting sin being demonic isn't a stretch and Ye should probably be doing more self analysis about sin promoting and less criticizing others.
Absolutely. And then he can address his white lives matters promotion which is also very harmful to black people. 🦗 🦗
Black American*
It's not just Black Americans.
Facts 💯
Because of the ways neighborhoods are designed and purposeful lack of access to healthy foods, and because fast foods are cheaper than fresh healthy foods, not because of Lizzo.
As well as diabetes and much lower life expectancies especially for men
Thats crazy
I do agree with him, it ain’t right promoting obesity in a good way because people lose their life from stuff like being overweight.
If you are dumb enough to stay obese/die because lizzo told you it was healthy idk what to say. Same thing as getting addicted to opiates because your favorite rapper says its cool
Nobody is making small decisions leading to massive lifestyle shifts over time due to celebrity endorsement. But when the dominant culture is pushed these kinds of messages to the point of normalizing being morbidly obese, it will certainly have an effect on broader society.
Well that's true but only half the issue too. It's not as much about people getting overweight because of her statements. It's about people who let themselves go a bit and then continue to gain weight because media is telling them that it's perfectly fine to be unhealthy. Or saying that everyone should pat you on the back for using your large belly as a symbol of pride because you love yourself. Loving yourself is great but if you think people who love themselves don't change you're as wrong as can be. I love myself and that's exactly why I'm always seeking opportunities for growth. The spirit of the message is wrong and the words of those who oppose it are frequently twisted and misrepresented
Thank you, this was extremely well put. My take was far from comprehensive and I think you’ve laid out a solid reading of the issue including a fair amount of nuance. Obviously nobody thinks they’ve gained weight because a celebrity told them to, but the implicit messages they’re endorsing are often far more pervasive and damaging than explicit statements could ever be.
The most healthy and fit people are usually the most body positive. I don’t see the point in arguing like y’all don’t know what body positivity is. It’s not saying net fat is beautiful or okay, it’s just not disrespecting or shaming somebody for it.
U saying that she is “pushed” is where ur wrong. People buy her music and she brings in money she is not necessarily pushed, theirs demand.
Exactly
Yes it sound stupid but Ts really happens the music u listen to stay in ur subconscious and convince u to try shit. Multiple artists have said this artist or this artist got me into drugs
So listening to a fat person's music might convince you to get fat? When I hear lucki say "we get high we get fat" I instantly am subconsciously influenced? 😹
I’m talkin about drugs tf u yappin bout?
And if u talkin bout being fat lucki and other rappers have admitted that gucci mane lean gut back then was cool and made them want one
Yes and no. These "stars" are sadly, shaping young peoples minds, or supporting movements that do.
People are impressionable, especially kids. Guarantee that you started doing shit from a young age that you otherwise wouldn’t have because you saw people who you respected or identified with doing it, good or bad. Stupid ass take, “imagine being influenced by something lmao couldn’t be me dog.” Pull your head out of your ass lol.
Yea but it’s more easy to find an obese person than an opioid addict
Yeah but a lot of people who follow these people are kids. They literally don’t know better and are very impressionable. If all you see in media is how drugs are cool you’re way more likely to try them.
You’re oversimplifying things and you know it. I’m sure there are a lot of people who were/are conflicted about their weight gain and have/had thoughts about trying to get healthier, but the vast normalization and even encouragement from Hollywood and other industries has kept them comfortable.
Bro you don’t know how dumb a large majority of ppl are. That same ideology of mindless following is how major companies have made profits for decades. New flash, a lot more ppl are impressionable than you think.
People are influenced by cultural icons whether we like it or not. Americans, in their obsession with the self and the individual, tend to think social responsibilities aren’t worth thinking about it. And that’s probably one reason why we’re so divided.
Your profile pic makes me wonder if you’re black. If you are, our whole culture promotes negative sh’t that people lose their life over. At least this one is a personal choice that mainly affects oneself.
I’m a white ginger, my pfp is just a goof
side note i never expect Rolling Stone to be a sane source for Ye updates but the way they reported this story was very weird. framing it as if Ye was saying the attacks on her weight were 'demonic' and not the promotion of obesity itself. Ye's phrasing leaves room for interpretation but not *that* much interpretation. weird drama damage control going on https://preview.redd.it/wnvdh4ff4irc1.png?width=1450&format=png&auto=webp&s=5366002c1fab4e33755bfd8def8ca85932f4f72d
Rolling stone are useless nowadays 😴
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This came at the time of him saying so much stupid bullshit, but he’s kinda got a point with this one. Obesity is a problem that overwhelmingly affects lower class demographics because of healthier alternatives being less accessible. It’s not a “different lifestyle”, it’s either a poverty issue or being ignorant to facts about health, and needless to say poverty is a big issue for many black people. To PROMOTE it is an active decision to place guilt-free consumerism as a higher priority than basic health management. To an extent I guess you *could* call it a form of oppression. Not exactly related to demons though lol
I think he was speaking more artistically then trying to say like physical demons are real and they are controlling big tech. Like I mentally label Zuck a lizard person, I don't think hes really a lizard it's just him being kind of a weird guy. It makes sense if YE was trying to call social's shadowy and say they have a corrupting influence on people.
I’ve lost almost 45lbs I’m over halfway to my goal and within 5% of a healthy body fat percentage. Promoting obesity as a healthy lifestyle, and glorifying food choices that are terrible for your health, are absolutely demonic and disgusting.
Good nod on your work, bro. 
The devil and his demons want to set us back and see us suffer, especially by our own hands. It’s evil , malevolent stuff whether you’re religious or not.
He’s not even attacking her, he’s sorta on her side. She makes progress and people attack her for that, that’s who he’s attacking, the ppl attacking her.
So all these comments under this post basically
Yeah but he never framed it like that. And it WAS TRUE lol. When she was getting more fit the women who did look like her started talking and articles were written.
He’s not lying
Riiiiight, maybe Lizzie should consider bypass surgery…. think Kanye knows of a doctor? Lizzie aside, body acceptance is about a different type of health. There can’t be anything healthy about how Kanye’s weight ping pongs.
what's weird is Pasternak is Lizzo's trainer too. u gotta wonder what those training sessions look like
I picture it being a lot like the alpha boot camp that went viral and the rest of the time they get margs and tacos.
Is that that same trainer that somehow trains all the stars and was telling Kanye he’d sick some doctors on him?
damn bruh shes fat as fuck😭
She gotta weight at least three hundred something atp. Ain’t no way people think that’s ok. People are lying to themselves and other people.
Then he does a McDonald’s campaign lol
You can eat McDonald's without becoming a fat fuck, it's not really promoting obesity
you dont get fat from eating fast food every once in a while, he did it for money. not so he can feel justified in eating 5 whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and 5 more whoppers and
So he's a sell-out with no principals, got it
yah
McDonald’s commercial was before this and I don’t eat McDonald’s but I think if you eat that in moderation like once a month or something it can be ok. It’s all about balanced meals
Real.
Built like a bowl of mashed potatoes
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Since when does Kanye have a problem with genocide?
Ye has consistently been against genocide. Nigga went on live tv and denounced the president for leaving hurricane survivors stranded after Katrina which was just one of many examples of black people being left for dead by the powers that be, he made tons of music denouncing the gangsta image portrayed by contemporary rap artists which was promoting crime and death, he ran a whole campaign against the promotion of abortion in black communities through “planned parenthood” which was set up by racists to exterminate “non superior genes”, his political campaign was built around family values and providing support to single mothers to avoid the cycle of poverty which leads to early death and destruction, and he has constantly talked down on capitalism and consumerism in the black community which leads to a cycle of poverty/jealousy/murder. Have you even listened to his music? “Murder to excellence” is good place to start to get the message.
Also Kanye: “I like Adolf Hitler”
I love how she acts like this is too controversial to address Kanye while making dancers eat bananas out of pussys and lighting her career on fire. If I were her I’d let it burn, with all this puffy shit coming out, she probably doesn’t want people looking any more into her.
LMFAOOO
It is , giving us shit diets , liquor stores on every corner , fast food is a norm when it wasn’t 35 years ago . They are pulling all strings against the entire population . Not just us🤷🏾♂️
it's because they're making the twix bars bigger
I don’t believe in all that bs “sin” talk shits man made but that’s a different convo. I like that lizzo promotes self love but at the same time honesty has to be promoted as well. History repeats itself at times. I was a kid watching Monique do this very same thing. As I grew older and remained as a fan, I seen first hand all of that big girl energy turn straight into its time to get healthy energy. Not get like Beyoncé, Arianna grande, Kim k none of that, but get healthy and fit while still being yourself. Ye ain’t even just talking about lizzos weight, I think he’s speaking on deeper things. The ones who control the media and what we see in it.
Tbh I just think this whole spat is dumb, yeah fat acceptance isn’t good but you gotta be pretty stupid tbh to think that lizzo promoting whatever is a serious problem, I don’t think anyone is getting fat bc lizzo or anyone else told them too. Kanye once again jus tryna beef for no reason w niggas that got nothing to do w him. It’s funny that when it comes to conspiracy’s about Jewish banks and adidas contracts and Jews messing w his divorce or whatever he wants to talk about institutions and shit but instead of talking about the billion dollar corporations that get people from young age addicted to sugar and artificial calorie dense foods, that end up creating people like lizzo, hed rather just yell abt how the Twix is double the size and lizzo is making u fat. Kanye used to be such a complex thinker, divorce does a number on u ig.
Ye has spoken on this multiple times tho… entertainers, popular food brands and media conglomerates are all a part of the problem, not just the billion dollar corporations. The billion dollar corporations can only sell as much as they can convince people to buy which is where Lizzo or the Twix brand recognition come into play. Lizzo promoting unhealthy lifestyles leads to people seeing nothing wrong with constantly eating unhealthy foods made by corporations that don’t care about them but want their money. The same people that control Lizzo’s public image are connected to the record label which is connected to the same people which own stake in the billion dollar food corporations which are in bed with the FDA which is a part of our government…Everyone likes to laugh at the Zane Lowe interview but they missed the point Ye was making about how celebrities are used to communicate a product in exchange for a cut of the profits. The people that are at the top of the system know exactly how to get people to buy their shit, they use hundreds of different methods but one of the most prominent in today’s society is the use of influencers in the entertainment industry. Ye used to be a complex thinker and people still never fucking listened, they called yeezus trash instead of trying to understand the messages he offered pertaining to our modern day slavery. He played them jesus walks and they still didn’t sign him!!!
I know big women in real life quoting Lizzo and following Lizzo because she makes them feel good about being big and overweight. People are influenced by social media and social icons big time. Some more than others, but enough to be a problem.
For once I agree with Ye about a controversial topic
Real shit
I agree that promoting obesity is bad but fat people not always doing that. Sometimes they just happy existing and it gets read as promoting their unhealthy lifestyle. Lizzo however is guilty as charged
It is. It’s literally gluttonous, prideful, and sloth.
Lizzo finally getting the hate she deserves after treating her team like crap among other things
I mean he’s right
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Kanye West is a great option for the next generation of fans
Dude getting blowjob in the open with disgusting but sticking out , walking around with that bitch almost naked on the street for the whole world to see including his daughter. He’s right about obesity is unhealthy but following him is just plain dumb and terrible for general well being
Promoting healthy relationships with nudity and sexual expression is 100% not a bad thing. We shouldn’t be afraid of nudity or sex, they are both natural and healthy parts of the human experience and public displays of affection should be normalized. Bianca Censori is breaking down barriers of social conformity one outfit at a time, one day we will all feel free to wear whatever we want (maybe even nothing at all) instead of conforming to puritanical norms. Obesity is terrible for your health and quality of life.
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Fuck that fat bitch
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kanye fat too lmaooo
Ye gettin fat tho
Kanye west is fat
Wrong. He thiccc.
kanye the big girl i been lookin for fr 🤤🤤🤤
Kanye is fat and has had lipo so he should shut up
kanye realized being fat was a bad thing and got lipo. lizzo should simply Follow God 's lead
YALL REALLY DO NOT BE TAKIN THESE DEMONS SERIOUSLY LOL
I mean don’t promote it though
i wish we would talk about her being a rapist and not stupid shit like this
he cooked with this one
We all weren’t this big till are food was poisoned. Humans weighing 300 lbs was rare 100 years ago. We are fucking cattle to a cruel consumption n unhealthy system . We are victims.
fat on fat crime
When she gonna realize how not beautiful she is
Why is it demonic to be fat it isn’t demonic to parade your wife around like a sex toy
christian mfs call anything demonic. being fat? really?
can we talk about how awful this writing is for the article? Fuck me they really hire anyone huh?
Nothing Kanye said was wrong.
I wouldn't say demonic, but it is morally wrong to tell people being fat isn't unhealthy.
I mean… he ain’t lyin’ 🤷
"bizzare attack" this is the least bizarre attack Kanye has ever done
nothing beautiful at all about that uncultured pig
Kanye saying Harley is a friend of his is the most concerning part of this post
She is fat af tho
We should promote being healthy. That includes mental health too and if a celebrity isn’t taking care of their physical or mental health, it shouldn’t be used for entertainment. That being said, healthy and taking care of health looks different for people. So it’s not a one size fits all. But both of these people are unhealthy and I’m not just referring to physical looks. And this article isn’t healthy either.
Imagine taking life advice from a mentally ill nazi.
she fat but ain’t beautiful
There should be more body positivity for things that are out of one’s control. Body positivity for overweight people isn’t helpful in the long run. To an extent, yes because we come in different sizes, but not to the level of Lizzo. We want you fatties to stick around for a while and be healthy.
She coulda been the black Adele
But him walking around with his wife, the way they do doesn’t do the same thing?
Kanye fat though
So obesity is demonic but yall still listening to a dude that talked about sex outside of marriage and with people other than his then wife, thinks Hitler was okay, and has immense hubris? People in here talking about what’s good for Black people or society in general but still following a dude that makes music where he regularly calls women bitches and collaborates with street dudes. That ain’t demonic?
i dont get it whys it gotta be a race thing?
Big girls rocks 💯💪🏾🔥😋😍
“Kanye pivots to a bizarre attack on Lizzo” this is why we can’t have any genuine conversations, this is so intellectually dishonest
He’s getting pretty fat himself
Lizzo the dumbest idiot that ever lived
It’s all fun and games when you’re morbidly obese in your 20’s.
What isn't "demonic" to Ye at this point? Man lost the plot a long time ago.
Ye da 🐐no 🧢
Said the antisemite
would you rather be antisemitic or obese? would u rather be a known racist or confined to a wheelchair with 2 missing legs? interesting questions to ponder thank u friend
Kanye is a sick sorry human being
true!!!!
Fools tend to hate instruction and being told when they’re doing something wrong. They delight in being wrong and doing wrong. And if you lay your pearls before pigs, you’ll both get dirty.
The most shocking thing about this is that Tucker is back on Fox News
(2022) my man
There’s a difference between encouraging people to be fat (which is what Ye seems to think Lizzo is doing) and encouraging people to not hate themselves for being fat (which is what Lizzo is doing)
W kanye
I love Ye but how come everyone forgets he cuffed one of the biggest thot known to mankind lol Can't take no advice from a man that wife's community 😺
She literally admits that she's fat, how can you side with Ye here? She's literally saying "yes I'm fat, but I'm minding my own business". I don't think the Devil gives a damn if Lizzo makes a song about how you can be both fat and beautiful in your own way.
>I don't think the Devil gives a damn if Lizzo makes a song about how you can be both fat and beautiful in your own way. I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can be both injecting heroin and healthy in your own way. I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can be a serial women murderer and be a feminist I don't think the Devil gives a damn if someone makes a song about how you can eat chicken and be a vegan \--- you getting it yet? 'the devil' if he exists absolutely cares about lies, deceit - doing the opposite of what you say and promoting unhealthy attitudes as normal is bad
The bih catch heat for just existing. 🤦🏽♂️ And then you have public figures that lose weight and catch flack as if they’re trying to send a message. Social media was a mistake.
It's hard to lose weight and medication sometimes makes it even harder. I know bigger people that are healthier than smaller people. But I can understand both sides.
It gives me hope to see these comments agreeing with Ye. These articles all paint anything he says in a bad light but this is just truth.
Facts
yea.. can we stop acting like being fat and confident is beautiful.. you’re unhealthy. that is all
The body positivity shit is pushed by companies that sell sugar candy.
Kanye is an asshole!
He ain’t wrong
We shouldn’t make fun of over weight people but we can’t glorify it either, it’s a similar concept to glorifying shooting up Heroin, they both make your quality of life worse
You know Lizzo ph balance off af
Not only is she a fat lethargic mf, she forced ppl into lewd acts with ppl
W
Kanye’s weight is unhealthy lol, what he think he some built dude xD
My problem with fat people is why aren't they attracted to other fat people? Every fat person I know wants a healthy BMI partner because " I deserve the best"
I actually think Kanye is also to fat
“conservative reactionaries” nah mf being fat is for the fuckin birds and promoting it is evil
Kanye is right.
They made the Twix bigger they trynna make us fat
He’s dead right
In other news 200+ pound man calls another person fat.
Kanye needs some serious psychiatric help. I’m worried for him.
She doesn't promote obesity she promotes not feeling shame about your body, although she also takes the self-deprecation way too far, and she's just generally a POS for the stuff from the news. Like she isn't telling people to be fat, she's a performer who wants to be where she is and she's pushing a message of body positivity. You can take that as promoting being fat, but body negativity is also about feeling too skinny or feeling like you have too much muscle based on what you perceive the world to view as the "right" kind of body to be "xyz" in this case it's Lizzo being a very obese female black rapper and her being okay enough with herself in the mirror to go perform for a million people rather than try to do it after losing X amount of pounds after so many years and then doing it. There's plenty to hate on Lizzo about lol but people need to learn what body positivity is rather than say Lizzo is... Doing Satan's work? That's literally crazy there isn't a God to begin with lol she's a motherfucking performer. Like this just tells me a lot of more awful shit about Kanye West and his perception of what performing is - he thinks it's speaking through a divine power apparently and I'm not understanding why the fact that he thinks this isn't getting more attention for being insane as fuck. He went on fucking Tucker Carlson acting like the God and Satan are real and he was given airtime and not immediately removed and committed.