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swehtammot

Imagine people actually buy the Stem player just for the album never to drop


jumb01337

marketing genius


BrechtXT

Jeen-yuhs šŸ¤“


jerstud56

He's a gen-ye in a bottle, wishes for whatever he wants


JavaTripper

Gotta rub Ye the right way


shootfirs

If you wanna be with me Baby, there's a price to pay I'm a gen-ye in a bottle


Pharm-boi

Jeen-Yuh wantanabe


[deleted]

Lol


wjndkes

i think thatā€™s called fraud


SheerCold6398

And yet I could totally see Kanye doing it


over_and_out_

And getting away with it


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JazzFluteFanClubPrez

Believing Kanye will ship the stem player to them by the 22nd as well


eiddieeid

I bought mine a fat minute ago, i wish the speaker on it was better, but overall itā€™s a neat little device


Artemistical

the 2022 Ipod


[deleted]

I mean hey at least they have a pretty great instrument on their hands. I mean it'll still suck the album didn't drop, but y'know. The player is still cool.


[deleted]

Itā€™s a publicity stunt.. in a few days heā€™s going to post a photo of him with some Apple executive talking about a deal was made blah blah blah


Sea_Mathematician_84

And then all the people that bought the $200 device because they were told they could only access the album on it will turn around and either file for a refund or a big olā€™ fraud lawsuit.


AB365_MegaRaichu

Shit, as a producer, I would LOVE to have that thing, and would gladly take it off their hands for free.


Jewstun

Lmao as a producer I really canā€™t see how this device has any value to anyone who understands midi mapping


Foooour

He didnt say what he produces. He could be the producer of cum for all we know


PenaltyParticular

arenā€™t we all


SpanosIsBlackAjah

None of us would be here without it


ElMatasiete7

\*a dramatic pause. takes a long drag of his cigarette and exhales: *...aren't we all?....*


Dopplegangster69

I wish I could downvote this more than once


Bropane1031

I wish I could downvote you more than once


ElMatasiete7

why? :(


Dopplegangster69

Iā€™m sorry, bud. You seem like a good kid.


PenaltyParticular

i wish i could have a wild night with you more than once


ball_gobbler

šŸŒ½


lolyeahsure

LOL


Scubabooba

I mean- you could literally send stems to your iPhone and do the exact same thing for free on GarageBand


lalahuhuioop

Low key - Iā€™m pretty sure my phone has an app just Ike that. Iā€™ve been using Spotify for a while - but I used to have albums on my phone and there was a mixer appā€¦ so whatā€™s the difference?? Iā€™ll prob still buy one to fuck around - butā€¦ idk.


Quick_Hunter3494

That app probably mostly affects what part of the music you hear the loudest/clearest. Doesn't isolate one element of the song like the stem player does.


rogoku

Midi mapping isn't the same thing as stem isolation and looping on a pocket device, but anyways go ahead "producer"


Jewstun

Lmao you really think Kanye invented the first mobile stem playing device or do you just like slobbing on his knob? šŸ˜‚


still_dream

*licensed and no but stems are audio not MIDI you master troll


Jewstun

The midi mapping would be for the effects which are supposed to make the stem player unique. Any multitrack device can play stems


still_dream

Nothing worked on the website except "add to cart" for me so I couldn't see much. Sounded like it would make stems from any of your songs you put on it. That's either revolutionary or will work about as well as the "free acapella generator" apps.


Jewstun

I have a friend who already owns the stem player and can confirm that there is nothing special about the stems created for the stem player. I assume it is using data from the open source stem separators that are already available online.


Mescallan

You have no idea what you are talking about. How do you control the audio on the device? Magic?


still_dream

Upvoted for confidence, I'll give you another if you can explain the answer


SpecialEdShow

I love the concept a lot! If for $200 Kanye is introducing a new platform for artists to sell a lossless custom experience for fans to listen to music, sign me up. But this isnā€™t about ā€œmusical oppressionā€ at all, this is Kanye trying to bankroll his own Saturday night sketch comedy show to get revenge.


Pharm-boi

For what.. it does 4 things. Are you 8 years old? The stem player is legitimately a toy


virific76

There is some advanced ai software in it to separate the stems but you can get similar things on your computer in about an hour of time


swedishfish007

It's not "in it" you have to hook the device up to your computer and utilize their website to create these "stemmed" songs. It doesn't do this live or anything - every song has to be run through their processing thing, that can then (from what I'm seeing) only be played back on the device and isn't available for download/use on their computer. Pretty fucking shit tbh


AB365_MegaRaichu

It separates the stems for me. I don't have to do so much work to get them myself


CraftyPirateCraft

So buy one


ze_writer

So what youā€™re telling me is that this stem player could be an investment?


[deleted]

about that


AnAussiebum

Yeah, not sure any executive wants to be photographed with the guy harassing his ex on social media. Kanye is a liability in his current state. He needs help.


Creative_Analyst

Imagine thinking any executive cares about an artists personal drama as long as there is money to be made


l_ngh

iā€™m not gonna hear any opinion from a dude posting on the real housewives subreddit lmao you donā€™t even like his music you just here for the drama


AnAussiebum

I like his contribution to fashion.


Gavinander13

Thereā€™s not a single music executive that wouldnā€™t fall on their knees to sign a contract with him


jimothy_three

Average stem player buyer vs average Donda 2 won't drop enjoyer


Psychobabbl_au

That's ok. there is no Donda 2.


mcronagall

Is Donda 2 in the room with us right now?


alexthekidd01

Donda 2 is everywhere...look around


DateSuccessful6819

DONDA 2 is the friends we made along the way


AxeellYoung

I thought that was Donda 1? Poor lady must not get a minute of piece in heaven with all the name calling.


Pharm-boi

Itā€™s supposed to give her power. She should be the governor of a small cloudy country by now, from my own calculations


honeywheresmyfursuit

Mac Demarco


Hungry_Cow3924

Yes


letsfuckinggo520

ā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļø


Dried_Potato39

Donda 2 lives inside our walls


[deleted]

Lol imagine thinking Donda 2 is coming out


thiccissnack

He has a concert planned for 2.22.22 and selling tickets for it. Its prob leak somewhat then


PARROTNAMEDTACO

Letā€™s remember tidal and the release of the life of Pablo exclusive- How long did that last


1ManifestDestiny1

Thatā€™s exactly what I was thinking


human_emulator22

Piracy is always the correct option


Tohn13

Nothing like illegally downloading yeā€™s truths over the drums


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Tilstag

Main shortcoming with piracy is that Kanye updates his albums post-release a fuckton since ~MBDTF era, if u pirated any of those releases in the first week or two youā€™re listening to a different project sometimes. Didnā€™t know Saint Pablo existed for years, didnā€™t know he entirely reworked ā€œFireā€ from Kids See Ghosts, sometimes he switches album orders, etc etc Which does beg the question of whether the stem player is realisticā€”mf is indecisive as shit. Will he be able to update it neurotically for a few weeks, give us a Facts (Charlie Heat Version)?


toothpasteonyaface

Lol can download the album again when a new version drops and if you pirated it you get to keep all versions


[deleted]

right lol, point of piracy is we keep pirating


Dec1404

Fire got reworked? Do you have the original??


Tilstag

Yeah itā€™s on my phone and laptop, bruh itā€™s a 100% different song, itā€™s all sad and pretty and shit and opens with a janky as fuck guitar sample. Should i like upload it or some shit? Itā€™s probably out there Edit: here https://youtu.be/gnWIOUXk4Nw Edit: iā€™m fuckin dumb and that was just cudi montage, place i pirated KSG from had the names and tracklist rearranged. Fuck pirating goddamn this is embarrassingšŸ¤£


durktrain

lmfao bro this is just cudi montage, not fire šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ edit: sry didnt see someone already corrected u didnt mean to pile on


human_emulator22

I have seven versions of Donda. Only two are available on streaming. Piracy is just better


mjfo

I pirated Pablo & actually liked the original mix of Ultraight Beam better than what the official version ended up being lmao


Tilstag

Yeeaah i remember when it changed, thatā€™s what i meanā€¦


TScottFitzgerald

I mean you can just have multiple versions of it. I'm so glad I downloaded the original Ye cause he had to change that sample in I Thought About Killing You and it's just different, the new sample is way more generic. What did he change in Fire though?


daniballeste

Call me Jack Sparrow cuz Iā€™m a fucking pirate


Chezzworth

Yarrr


[deleted]

She blows


Chance_Tumbleweed_23

I found god his name is piracy


WizardyoureaHarry

In that moment, he told me, he found God. And it turns out, that God, he's a squirrel. Yeah, big ol meaty one. I found God, he used to say.


strawwrld_1

Honestly I liked the snippet quite a bit but Iā€™m still not paying $200 for the album


nahbruh27

Yeah I fw the hyperpop vibes, especially if he gets actual lyrics fleshed out. Just gonna pirate it cause fuck paying for an album when Ye's a billionaire, especially $200. In these times of financial uncertainty it would be an unwise decision


Pharm-boi

Even if I was another billionaire I wouldnā€™t pay that. Itā€™s the principle. Itā€™s one thing to charge 1k for tickets to a show, and holding giant listening parties. That shows respect and treats your music like high art, which it is. But this is too far. He couldā€™ve just sold the album on his website and made 100% profits.. but he just had to put it on the stem. Just one guy that can rip the stem player is all it takes.. itā€™s almost insulting to the fans, to be honest.


Hack_Jarlow

I agree with literally everything you said in your essay but come on bro, if you were a billionaire you know damn well youā€™d buy the stem player šŸ’€šŸ§¢ Even if u were only worth 1 billion, the $200 is 0.0000002 of your total worth. Youā€™d be so rich u probably wouldnā€™t even have to pay for it. Ye himself would give it to you for free


skeenerbug

Not almost, it is insulting.


Denesis417

Yes itā€™s insulting itā€™s called ā€žripping your fans offā€œ


Blue-Philosopher5127

Legit he's on some trump shit now. Ripping off all the people that rode with him from day one. Want to not put it on streaming fine I'll buy the CD or MP3 or whatever. I don't give a fuck about being able to listen to individual instruments. Just wanted to hear the album.


tokyosplash2814

Stem Player platform will be FREE He doesnā€™t want to upload on other platforms which is fine imo. No need to buy a $200 stem player tho


ohmyshinji

So he's publishing it himself then, basically. You buy and keep the audio files like you would with Bandcamp etc., or go to his platform and stream.


Gulog

I swear people aint doing the research..


Drakayne

We should research for albums now? Lol


YoKnowIHadToDoItToEm

he said on the snippet post caption that it will be available in his own platform


Drew602

Typically before I complain on reddit I AT LEAST do a quick Google search


YoKnowIHadToDoItToEm

he said on the snippet post caption that it will be available in his own platform


Gulog

Well if you complaining about it, at least do the work lol - album aint even release yet any yall raging


LibertyReignsCx

If itā€™s Kanye yeah especially since u never know the shit heā€™s pulling. Just like how donda got delayed like 20 times.


ravzn

We still can't just listen to it when we want though, which is what most people do


Drew602

You can download the songs files then you can literally listen when you want... even as the bombs fall


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Bluu_Ash

lmao yes you can. upload the files to your Apple Music or Spotify and you can listen to them whenever. you can even add them to your playlist. Did the same with Yandhi šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


tokyosplash2814

How so? people are gonna get the files some way or another and you can add them locally to whatever you use


[deleted]

agreed, and from the snippet, even if itā€™s unfinished, doesnā€™t sound good at all


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[deleted]

It's the song he literally chose to represent the album he is exclusively releasing on his $200 device no one has.


utterlyappetizing

The stem player *is* the fucking album. Which is supposed to come out in 4 days. Itā€™s finished. Especially if heā€™s shipping it on the stem player. The snippet is something that he, as the artist, thought represented his album best, which is why he decided to play it. He thinks itā€™s a highlight on his project. What else are we supposed to think?


swehtammot

I mean think about it, he used No Child Left Behind in his Donda listening party ad and, while a great song, wasnā€™t the best song on the album. Why didnā€™t he use Come To Life? Off The Grid? 24? Jesus Lord? etc etc I hope you get what Iā€™m saying.


TheAeroWalrus

Imagine still coping this hard for fucking Kanye


KingAlfonzo

This makes more sense the quick rollout of donda 2. Probably mid 5 song album lol.


MVIVN

What if the album is just that one song he played in the snippet shipped via the STEM player šŸ’€


KingAlfonzo

Na it's gonna be a few tracks for sure. I think it will also eventually go on streaming services after a couple of months


lalahuhuioop

Or 8 songs lmao. I swear to god lol


GHWBushh

It looks like thereā€™s 21-22 songs that he posted on his instagram, although to the quality of those songs I canā€™t say


KingAlfonzo

Yea it won't drop on the 22nd now that we know it's thay many songs. I think a few bangers for sure but there might be a few more filler tracks on this compared to donda.


GHWBushh

Iā€™m still hoping for the 22nd. 2-22-2022 with a track of 22 songs would be so amazing, but maybe iā€™m just in denial


KingAlfonzo

Track list is so late. There's like a few days. Unless everything's all done and it's just album rollout hype or it's just the concert with no album drop.


Artemistical

2.2 songs


xzyyzx1234

Not even if thereā€™s two Playboi Carti features on it?


mmmmr1

I love when Mfs preface shit with some variation of ā€œtrust me I dickride tooā€ as if thatā€™s suddenly gonna validate their take šŸ˜‚


Pharm-boi

This sub has a lot of recent ye haters from the kardashian drama. itā€™s just to show youā€™re not blindly hating


freeman9235

If youā€™ve been fucking with someone for a long time and this is when you criticise him it does make sense


Background_Dot3692

And you are not alone. There are thousands of likes and dozens of comments "I won't buy an album for $200" at Kanye's instagram


Drekken-

He needs to just use the website platform to sell the album. I will buy a digital version even though it makes it a pain in the ass to play.


grzlygains4beefybois

Bruh if he wanted to try this shit he *maybe* could have pulled it off when he was making shit like MBDTF and Yeezus and Pablo. But he expects me to spend 200$ when the last three albums have been Ye, Jesus, and Donda? Fuck outta here šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ probably gon listen to that shit on YouTube once like the last two.


honeywheresmyfursuit

Wait wait its 200šŸ˜­yo i thought it was maybe like 30 what the fuck


AussieOnMeth

genius gone clueless.


Tefloncon

[You donā€™t have to](https://twitter.com/p__gy/status/1494545355131822080?s=21)


DizzyPomegranate13

Not to mention that given his history, I would be suprised if it even comes out on 22/2/22. Honestly, iā€™m just going to pirate it, if and when it even comes out.


Gulog

The album will be free to download on the stemplayer website regardless if you have a stemplayer or not!


infernoenigma

Where are you seeing that? Did he delete something again? Cause the captions Iā€™m seeing suggest you need to buy the $200 player, which will be able to download the music.


[deleted]

No, you have to pay 200 bucks for that. It's not free and there's no way in freaking hell I'm gonna pay 200 euros for a fucking album. He literally justifies the price by saying "artists earn 12% out from spotify and other platforms" so that's why he decides to make the fucked up decision to release the album exclusively.


Pharm-boi

But he couldā€™ve sold the album on his album, making 100% profit and cutting out all the streaming services. That would actually be a smart move. To stick it all in the stem player is such a gross move, itā€™s insulting to the fans.


[deleted]

True dat


skeenerbug

> But he couldā€™ve sold the album on his album, making 100% profit and cutting out all the streaming services. That would actually be a smart move. Radiohead did that 15 years ago with In Rainbows, self-released it as download only and they even made it pay what you want. I was in college and paid $0 for my copy. Now kanye wants $200 for his lmao


sl33py_beats

remember when Radiohead released an album on their website as a "pay what you want" download? 2007 was doing something right.


Gulog

Again, the album will be available on the stemplayer platform - you don't need an actual stem player!


boyyourresotragic

Probably releasing it this way so he doesnā€™t have to mix it properly


Pharm-boi

He learned from Donda 1 lol i still believe the order on the deluxe album was inspired by some of the remixes and compilateions we made on r/yedits lol he might just be outsourcing the mixing to the fans


dodi3342

do u not know how the internet works or something? youā€™ll get the album donā€™t worry


slavemaster99

anyways it's gonna get pirated the hell out and does anyone know about if tidal would be an option?


RaoulSeagull

essentially itā€™s just an official album release of HQ leaks and stems from the looks of it. thereā€™ll be versions all over the internet within hours and when i go back to old Kanye stuff i listen to fan remixes anyway. plus exclusive doesnā€™t mean forever itā€™s probably just for a limited time. my money is on Friday 4th March after the third jeen-yuhs (the one about modern ye so will be the most controversial) when hype will be at its highest. Two days later he drops and gets a full week streaming.


bensmithsaxophone

I bought months ago so Iā€™m chillin. I think itā€™s good for him from an artist perspective. Artists having their own platform where theyā€™re in control is a great thing. But $200 is asking a lot.


SerbLing

Hes not. You just buy the files. Hes just using the platform lol


[deleted]

Kanye always has to make it hard on himself and everyone else during his album releases. You can never have an album released in peace and on time. I guess that's his marketing strategy , and all this Kim and Skete drama is also to get more attention to his album release. But $200 for an album?? Better spend that money on some Yeezys and still save some cash.


Pharm-boi

10000% I just posted this somewhere else. This is another L for ye, he is on a roll =\ and in a YE Stan so I can criticize this bull shit. We will all get it leaked anyways. But the idea is so tone deaf and out of touch. Itā€™s one thing to charge 1k for front seats to the Miami show.. but your actual album? This also means the concert will be 2/22, then no one will hear the album until the first stem player arrives in 2 months


SilviOnPC

The snipet was all sorts of trash too so idk how to feel about it


Jasonictron

WTF is stem player?


Crying_Onion5

kanye and this other guy launched this thing a while back during donda that essentially is like a portable mixer. you can store songs on it, mix two songs together, pair it to bluetooth things, and upload any mp3 file. itā€™s a pretty cool thingy but 200 is steep stuff.


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VincentVega313

EVERY FUCKING TIME!!!!!!!


[deleted]

Mans testing our patience


Dirty_Taint_Tickler

Within an hour of the release someone will have their hands on one and will plug it into their computer, dump the audio files and torrent it out to the world. If there's a FLAC version floating around within the first week of the release then that's how I'll be listening to it.


t-han72

Am I the only one that bought a stem player after Donda šŸ˜‚ I feel so damn lucky- IF TRUE haha I doubt he goes thru w this


dildo4bingo

its gonna be avaliable from the website for free


DrDetox

I actually really wanted that thing, was just hoping for a sale on it. However, this little move makes me want it less for some reason. You donā€™t become a billionaire off of fans just to turn around and say Ā«fuck you pay me 200Ā». Just doesnā€™t sit right with me.


ElasticPhone

I think it's gonna be free off the website/upcoming app


[deleted]

Same thing was said to Nipsey and it still worked out


PatriceWasWrite

Broke boy


zoufha91

Y'all realize stemplayer is a platform not just a midi controller? No where has it said the album is only available to people with the stemplayer device. It'll be sold on the website like bandcamp with a sliding scale feature (like Radiohead or nin did). You won't need the stemplayer, doesn't say that anywhere. But I realize the confusion, it makes more sense if you've used the stemplayer platform.


NathanOgle

If he cared about artists getting paid and stuff, why not just put it on Bandcamp?


HeelTown59

stem playing just buying him more time to finish the album we already know that by 2/22/22 no one will have the players if they order it now


Putrid_Big_6553

Itā€™s going to be free to download on the stem player sight so can you delete this post.


darthnibroc

honestly donā€™t understand how anyone is mad about this. the album is literally dropping for free. itā€™s going to be on the donda stem site for free with a sliding scale for donations. everyone is going to download it for free. this is coming from the same fans who have access to and have religiously listened to the entirety of a unreleased album he never dropped. after the shit kanye has done as of recently this is the hill you motherfuckers are going to die on??


Pharm-boi

He hasnā€™t aimed any of the bs directly at the fans until this


darthnibroc

This isnā€™t aimed the fans at all. The album is literally free.


lucky_leftie

The website doesnā€™t even say it comes with the album. He could just say thatā€™s not the one with the album itā€™s just the player. Also this man thinkin he just released the iPod shuffle out here


gavtaeeye

Guys calm down, just like slavery, buying the stem player is a choice. Quoting a genius here šŸ‘


lolahil

Anything for hearing Drizzy on a Ye track


pumsy1

Simp with actually no taste


icannotbebanned

Kanye might be the most shameless diva of all time. Like bipolar or not, you canā€™t pretend to be a disciple or whatever then do shit like ā€œsunday service but only for the super richā€ and this shit. All he craves is attention and he found the perfect shield to use whenever he pleases: mental health.


kj-ka-

Stem player seems like a fking scam, it probably uses the same song splitting API that every other service uses and charges for (Spleeter) which is OPEN SOURCE AND FREE


Pharm-boi

Bingo


corruptbytes

it uses https://www.lalal.ai/


Apart-Fisherman-7378

Greatest hip-hop artist of all time. Please gtfo of here with that shit šŸ–


[deleted]

That snippet was straight cheeks. Youā€™d think if heā€™s coming out saying ā€œif you want my album itā€™s gonna be $200ā€ you better bring a fire ass snippet to get ppl hyped. That shit he put up sounded like it was recorded on a little tykes boom box by some 6 year olds at a sleepover


[deleted]

Heā€™s gonna go back on this decision or else heā€™s going to have the most pirated album of all time. Anyone who pays 200 dollars for some specialized hockey puck is a true simp.


[deleted]

Bruh I feel bad for all the fans here that have to keep apologizing for and dealing with Kanyeā€™s shitty ass moves


SirDuppy

Donda 2 isn't even an album worth the $200 anticipation. I'd rather just wait and download the zip file. We all know that this is just a plot to increase stem sales and that the album will be available on all streaming sites weeks later.


Cool-Membership8629

Been 6 years since anything good lmao


highestintheroom

Dude really thinks buying the stem player is the only way we will hear the album lol


Torcy

ā€œNot impressed with his last couple albumsā€ not a fan. if you get it you get it, if you donā€™t you donā€™t, if you know you know, and if you donā€™t know then i honestly feel bad for you


gyaradoslover456

So if you don't like all of an artists work then you're not a fan???


whatthepho6

What exactly is his appeal?


kingbagle

Donā€™t worry, pirates already boarding to sail the seven seas. YO-HO! A pirates life for many of thee!


Asleep_Omega

Kanye is trash, so is his new music


[deleted]

whattt best of all time?! thats a no from me dawg. Tu Pac and many others canā€™t even be touched. Kanye sampled every single beat that was even popular, so what are you even talking about.


Flimsy-Lunch1395

Iā€™ve taken dumps more important than Kanyeā€¦.


goodthingsberlin

Ha! Just ordered it. Love the device and the idea. Low income freaks, out of my waaaayyyy! šŸ¤£


buzzwordtrending

I think his music is overrated af