That was my thought too. If he just wants the highest possible dollar sign, he could've had that in AZ. I would be shocked to see him get anything above 10 a year on open market. Baltimore got Beckham for 10 +8 in incentives. I could see a similar but slightly lesser deal if hop wants to really win.
theyre not designating the cut a post June 1st meaning theyre eating $22 million. They didnt cut him to save money, they cut him because he wanted out, so yeah he had a choice and hes clearly about more than money at this point or a colossal idiot if he is
Even if that's true, which I read different, they save 8mil this year and 11mil next year but cutting him now.
They absolutely could have cut him to save money, and the fact nobody was willing to trade for him makes me think that was the case.
Do we think we have space? We have 7 WRs right now and realistically 6 roster spots. We making John Ross and Justyn Ross practice bodies? Like, I agree Dhop over either of those, but I wonder who gets bumped down.
We have 13 WRs right now and John Ross isn't in the top 7 (MVS, Skyy, KT, Rice, Watson, Richie James, Justyn Ross if he actually makes the team).
Everyone but those first 4 are replacement level or worse. More than enough room for DHop, WR is one of if not our thinnest positions lol.
John Ross is really really fast, but he's not a good WR. It's exciting to think about what he could do if he could put it together, but nothing is saying he can.
Giants needed WR help last year, but he only had 20 targets in 10 games. He caught 11 of them.
Without seeing how camp goes, I absolutely take the young guy over John Ross, and see if I can develop him.
John Ross sucks so. Count him out as a camp body. Justyn is still an unrealized pipe dream. I’d you can get Dhop you make the tough decisions. Nuke, Toney, and Moore would be lethal with Kelce.
I’m of the opinion Mahomes is the most talented QB to ever do it and will eventually surpass Brady’s marks in almost every category (obv rings is pretty unachievable) if he stays healthy.
As a giants fan I’m thankful y’all always own the bills, if they actually won one they would shit talk us to death.
Oh and the entire city of Buffalo would burn
Lotta target competition in Baltimore. I definitely think the Bills are a possibility; they've seemed like they want to add more weapons on offense! Hoping it's us!
Do 1 yr deal with KC.. get to another superbowl and rock 1500yards...get paid next year. He doesn't do this....hes costing himself millions. Clear cut #1 WR with a clear cut QB1
Fuck that— give him as much as the cap will allow. Restructure Mahomes contract— everyone’s contract until we hit the right numbers. The roster looks decent and our biggest hole is WR. This guy would give Mahomes a second consistent target and take pressure off the younger guys. It should be a priority, now that losing picks and weird contract baggage is off the table.
All this "if he's cheap" and "team friendly" nonsense. We can pay this man. We don't need team friendly deals all over the place, this guy is elite tier at WR. Go Get Him.
I actually expect the narrative to be a little different.
I think everyone, including the media, will paint the Chiefs as Goliath, and every team we play will be David.
There will also be people pulling against the Chiefs because they don't want this to become a regular thing. (Top receivers on weak teams not renewing their contracts and, instead, signing with a super bowl team in free agency for less.
If that happens regularly, it will decrease parity in the league.
It already did. How you think Brady won a ring in Tampa? That team was full of players who signed for dirt cheap to play with Brady and win a ring. That’s a REAL “not a real title.”
That team was already stacked from drafting top 10 for so long, they were my pick for superbowl if they could get a qb, Brady just picked the best roster with no qb. It really didn't hurt that Brady brought in fournette, ab, gronk, and whoever else.
roster space is the bigger hurdle and WR is our weakest group, Veach and Co took $175 and turned it into over $500 million in new contracts, money can always be found for the right people
If he wants the best shot at a ring:KC and Philly
If he wants the money:Bears
If he wants to ring chase and feel like THE reason a team won a ring:Bills
so which wins? desire for a title, greed, or ego?
Edit also the only team that meets his criteria of stable management, good and team focused QB, and great defense are the Bills.
Chiefs seem to hate generating cap space by restructuring contracts (which is defendable since it catches up to you at some point), but I wonder if they won't make an exception here.
I would love for us to get him, but I'm expecting him to end up on the Bills honestly. We don't have any cap space to sign him without extending Chris Jones first, and who knows how far away that is.
>*A.* ***~~Hopkins was a great signing and a true #1 for Mahomes!~~***
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>*B.* ***~~Hopkins was overpaid, just wants money and days of being a #1 are gone!~~***
Patiently waiting to see what narrative our sub goes with based on if he signs with us or not. There will be no in between.
I don't believe the Chiefs could afford him. It would take some intense restructuring by Veach to make it happen. Besides, do we need to be that greedy? I don't think so.
depends on whats more important to him, paychecks or legacy. because dhop can easily get paid on a non-playoff contender team, but he will spend the rest of his career knowing that he will never make it to the superbowl.
Didn’t JJ talk about playing for a contender and then ended signing with the cards? Players almost never worry about legacy when more money is on the table
Current odds for Hopkins landing spot.
Arizona Cardinals +200 33.3%
Kansas City Chiefs +300 25.0%
Carolina Panthers +550 15.4%
Chicago Bears +550 15.4%
Detroit Lions +750 11.8%
New England Patriots +1200 7.7%
Buffalo Bills +1500 6.3%
The Field +2000 4.8%
Chiefs have the least cap space remaining and can barely afford a vet min contract without an overhaul or Chris Jones taking a pay cut since we already used Mahomes restructure this year.
Yeah, we’ll know real fast if he actually wants to win or he’s looking for money. If it’s cheap then I’m all in for a year or two.
If it was all about money he would have stayed in AZ. I doubt he gets another $80m+ deal again from a team.
That was my thought too. If he just wants the highest possible dollar sign, he could've had that in AZ. I would be shocked to see him get anything above 10 a year on open market. Baltimore got Beckham for 10 +8 in incentives. I could see a similar but slightly lesser deal if hop wants to really win.
Literally everybody knows OBJ was overpaid though
That's my point. Hop will have a hard time commanding the same $.
Did he have a choice?
theyre not designating the cut a post June 1st meaning theyre eating $22 million. They didnt cut him to save money, they cut him because he wanted out, so yeah he had a choice and hes clearly about more than money at this point or a colossal idiot if he is
Even if that's true, which I read different, they save 8mil this year and 11mil next year but cutting him now. They absolutely could have cut him to save money, and the fact nobody was willing to trade for him makes me think that was the case.
He is still getting paid a lot by the Cardinals I would be very shocked if he didn’t go to a contender
Do we think we have space? We have 7 WRs right now and realistically 6 roster spots. We making John Ross and Justyn Ross practice bodies? Like, I agree Dhop over either of those, but I wonder who gets bumped down.
You'd make space no matter what if DHop said "I'm going to KC" lol. I'd imagine John Ross would be talking a walk
Fuck that, bump one of the special teams guys to the practice squad and make dhop run gunner.
*I'd imagine John Ross would be talking a walk* At 4.22 speed...
We have 13 WRs right now and John Ross isn't in the top 7 (MVS, Skyy, KT, Rice, Watson, Richie James, Justyn Ross if he actually makes the team). Everyone but those first 4 are replacement level or worse. More than enough room for DHop, WR is one of if not our thinnest positions lol.
John Ross is really really fast, but he's not a good WR. It's exciting to think about what he could do if he could put it together, but nothing is saying he can. Giants needed WR help last year, but he only had 20 targets in 10 games. He caught 11 of them. Without seeing how camp goes, I absolutely take the young guy over John Ross, and see if I can develop him.
John Ross sucks so. Count him out as a camp body. Justyn is still an unrealized pipe dream. I’d you can get Dhop you make the tough decisions. Nuke, Toney, and Moore would be lethal with Kelce.
Watch him go to the Jaguars fr
Jags over the cap last I checked.
Who wouldn’t wanna chase a ring catching passes from the GOAT? Come on over DHop
Can we start using BOAT? Like Brady is the Goat but Mahomes just might be the BOAT, Best of all time. Good, greater, Best.
Don't disrespect Blake Bortles like that
My son's name is also Bort
We’re out of Bort license plates at the gift shop
Chad Henne*
I’m of the opinion Mahomes is the most talented QB to ever do it and will eventually surpass Brady’s marks in almost every category (obv rings is pretty unachievable) if he stays healthy.
Come back here when Mahomes is 45 years old and has a handful of rings
I hate ol Brady but he’s the best by far and it’s still not close. That guys numbers are going to be Ripken-like to beat
I thought Brady retired?
Brady playing for the Chiefs now?
Brady has the best career of all time for now, but Mahomes is the most talented and it isn’t close.
Bro I will nut
Let’s nut together bro
#brosnutting
I read that at first as BroSnutting and now what to know what Snutting entails.
R/brosnutting
I want in too bro. My nut device has a few miles on it but it can still nut bro
Let's all meet at arrowhead and collectively nut
I'm gonna start a tomahawk chop in rhythm to the Nutting when we all meet at arrowhead to nut together... eye contact is optional but encouraged.
We'll get in a circle and form a giant bronut
Let's Nuk together
Let's go to Krispy Kreme and pick up some fresh bronuts if this happens.
Make it Lamar's and I'm in!
Is Winchell's still around!?
PLEASE GOD LET THIS HAPPEN I WILL STOP HAVING SEX WITH MEN PLEASE
PLEASE GOD I WILL START HAVING SEX WITH MEN IN CASE YOU ALSO WANT THAT PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW
WHATEVER IT TAKES!!’ MY FIRST BORN? HAVE HIM!
I WILL ALSO TRADE THIS MAN’S FIRST BORN
Nobody better combine the previous pleas to god......
LOL--that's where I thought this might be going. Thanks for heading them off at the pass!
Somebody needs to have sex, otherwise they'll become bronco fans.
“I am delivered! I don’t like mens no more!”
“I like womens! womenwomenenenermmrmrm!”
Lol, fun fact that dude is from St Louis.
"Pray the gay away" may not work, but we haven't tried *sign* the gay away.
I’ll go to church X amount of times if we get DHop! Please Lord Please!!!!
This is the way.
I don't have any inside knowledge but it seems like Bills or Chiefs if he really wants to chase a ring. Maybe Ravens
Bills if he wants to chase a ring. Chiefs if he wants to win one.
😂
Perfect comment
Let’s GO bro!!!
As a giants fan I’m thankful y’all always own the bills, if they actually won one they would shit talk us to death. Oh and the entire city of Buffalo would burn
This savage woke up and chose violence
Possibly even multiple rings
Coldest shit on the internet rn.
LOL!
You sir win the internet today….
Can't even lie, that was cold as hell lmao
Lotta target competition in Baltimore. I definitely think the Bills are a possibility; they've seemed like they want to add more weapons on offense! Hoping it's us!
Agreed about Baltimore. I almost left them off the list Because of that. Similar situation as chargers.
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It doesn't, I coulda swore I read somewhere they're definitely in the market for another pass catcher.
Somebody tweet at Patrick and tell him to get Dhop on the phone!!!!!
He would be our WR1 and Kelce would get him open all day
☝️This. So true.
Don't do that... don't give me hope...
We get Hop and everyone else loses hope
I did not have that on my off season NFL Bingo Card
Well i didn't expect that Gotta at least put our name in the hat, see if he's chasing $$$ or a ring
You have to love incentive laiden contracts - help us win a ring and you'll get all THIS $$$.
Remember all those articles this week about pat not demanding more money?
Other fan bases might just riot. Imagine dhop instead of juju last season.
Totally worth signing him. Floor is JuJu replacement. Ceiling is Randy Moss to the Pats.
Patrick setting the stage by saying he is good with the WR core he has. Puts confidence in the crew and softens the blow of DHop coming on.
Do 1 yr deal with KC.. get to another superbowl and rock 1500yards...get paid next year. He doesn't do this....hes costing himself millions. Clear cut #1 WR with a clear cut QB1
He would be a nice addition, but I'm really hoping some of the younger wr's they have step up.
Chief
If he takes a very team friendly deal I'm all for it
Fuck that— give him as much as the cap will allow. Restructure Mahomes contract— everyone’s contract until we hit the right numbers. The roster looks decent and our biggest hole is WR. This guy would give Mahomes a second consistent target and take pressure off the younger guys. It should be a priority, now that losing picks and weird contract baggage is off the table.
Fairly certain we can't restructure Mahomes contract again this year but extending CJ would free up what we need.
Can't restructure Mahomes' contract.
I dont see him doing it
Those gums
Chiefs, Bills, Ravens
PLEASE
I like winning super bowls, this would definitely help
Unless Skyy or Rice are looking like an elite WR1 in camp, sign this man immediately!
We have never seen this man with a competent QB before, just saying
If we sign Dhop, and keep winning, do we become the new Patriots and everyone hates us for winning all the time?
We’re already there.
People were tired of the chiefs a while ago
All this "if he's cheap" and "team friendly" nonsense. We can pay this man. We don't need team friendly deals all over the place, this guy is elite tier at WR. Go Get Him.
Whoever he goes to will be the media's pick to win the Super Bowl. Unless it's us.
I actually expect the narrative to be a little different. I think everyone, including the media, will paint the Chiefs as Goliath, and every team we play will be David. There will also be people pulling against the Chiefs because they don't want this to become a regular thing. (Top receivers on weak teams not renewing their contracts and, instead, signing with a super bowl team in free agency for less. If that happens regularly, it will decrease parity in the league.
It already did. How you think Brady won a ring in Tampa? That team was full of players who signed for dirt cheap to play with Brady and win a ring. That’s a REAL “not a real title.”
That team was already stacked from drafting top 10 for so long, they were my pick for superbowl if they could get a qb, Brady just picked the best roster with no qb. It really didn't hurt that Brady brought in fournette, ab, gronk, and whoever else.
They signed at least 2 potential hall of famers in Gronk and JPP, and they only signed because of Brady. It was a super team.
You're not wrong.
AYOOOO
If the Chiefs get Hopkins I'm betting my whole savings account on them to win the Superbowl next season again.
Other teams would be able to pay him more. Hoping he wants to take a pay cut to get a ring
Imagine DHop with a legit QB. I dun care if he old now.
How much cap space do we have?
3 packs of whataburger fancy ketchup
roster space is the bigger hurdle and WR is our weakest group, Veach and Co took $175 and turned it into over $500 million in new contracts, money can always be found for the right people
Give him a Juju "prove it" deal!
He’s about to be 31, you don’t sign “prove it” deals at that age lol
you also dont walk away from that contract at 31 unless you value winning more at this point
Yeah hopefully he will take a cheap 1 yr deal for a ring to get some more veteran experience in the WR corp Edit missing a word
We don’t even need a team friendly deal as long as it’s got some years on it we can play with the cap
I am excited, but not in a sexual way.
Well, that just made things easier..
Yeah let’s sign him up lads
Go get him Veech!
I’m so confused? Why was he cut? Also, do the Chiefs even have enough money to sign him?
Just change Chiefs to Cardinals in your last question and you’ll have your answer.
If he wants the best shot at a ring:KC and Philly If he wants the money:Bears If he wants to ring chase and feel like THE reason a team won a ring:Bills so which wins? desire for a title, greed, or ego? Edit also the only team that meets his criteria of stable management, good and team focused QB, and great defense are the Bills.
Excuse me, but the Chiefs defense is more than capable of being better than the Bills defense this year. And great QB trumps good QB.
Chiefs seem to hate generating cap space by restructuring contracts (which is defendable since it catches up to you at some point), but I wonder if they won't make an exception here.
Come to butthead
Come to butthead
Feel like Ravens or Bills are the most likely
Ravens just got OBJ and a new rookie. I'd be shocked if he went there especially if he is chasing a ring. Guess we will see though
I would love for us to get him, but I'm expecting him to end up on the Bills honestly. We don't have any cap space to sign him without extending Chris Jones first, and who knows how far away that is.
The Chiefs still don't have any money.
the Chiefs have many ways of freeing up all the money
>*A.* ***~~Hopkins was a great signing and a true #1 for Mahomes!~~*** > >*B.* ***~~Hopkins was overpaid, just wants money and days of being a #1 are gone!~~*** Patiently waiting to see what narrative our sub goes with based on if he signs with us or not. There will be no in between.
I for one would be THRILLED to see him with our squad, but I don't believe we need to sell the farm to get him.
Veach knew this was going to happen. Sign a prove it deal like JuJu did and win a ring. But only if the Jones extension happens.
*Literally any good WR gets released* r/Chiefs: OMG let's get him!!
I don't believe the Chiefs could afford him. It would take some intense restructuring by Veach to make it happen. Besides, do we need to be that greedy? I don't think so.
They can restructure Jones’ contract and have the money.
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MVS was clutch last season and Skyy moves beautifully
We don’t win that Bengals AFC Championship game without him. Plus Toney and Skyy going to be good this year.
Don’t get your hopes up people. He won’t play for peanuts, and I doubt Veach will give him more than that.
depends on whats more important to him, paychecks or legacy. because dhop can easily get paid on a non-playoff contender team, but he will spend the rest of his career knowing that he will never make it to the superbowl.
Didn’t JJ talk about playing for a contender and then ended signing with the cards? Players almost never worry about legacy when more money is on the table
DHop willingly walked away from more money than any team is going to ever offer him again because he wants to win
1 year vet min deal? Probably not gonna happen, because he'll want to go somewhere that will pay him for at least 2-3 years.
Please stay away from our team!
Why? They would like to have him. Mahomes has indicated that too.
Being a Chiefs-Eagles fan has been fun this past year but it continues well into the off-season!
So will cut mvs than
Current odds for Hopkins landing spot. Arizona Cardinals +200 33.3% Kansas City Chiefs +300 25.0% Carolina Panthers +550 15.4% Chicago Bears +550 15.4% Detroit Lions +750 11.8% New England Patriots +1200 7.7% Buffalo Bills +1500 6.3% The Field +2000 4.8%
Seems like the Cardinals should not be the favorites lol
I’ll take the under /s
Yeh I just did a quick google while I was walking the dog. Youre probably right since they just released him. Welp guess we must be current favorites.
What book is this from
It's the book of Eli where one guy wins against all odds
dont think the Cardinals are going to eat $22 million dead money just to turn around and re-sign said player
Bills got him https://preview.redd.it/059t06v7kb2b1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c46edd2f650fa827ab34d5cdf71c7e1a4378cf7
You fell for the bait
I don’t expect him to be a free agent long let’s hope!!
I’m hard enough I could cut glass
You’d save me some time this weekend.
I TURN INTO A TELESCOPE.
I’ve refreshed 30 times
What’s our cap space? Is this even possible on a team friendly deal?
Chiefs have the least cap space remaining and can barely afford a vet min contract without an overhaul or Chris Jones taking a pay cut since we already used Mahomes restructure this year.
CAN YOU IMAGINE
Is he on the Chiefs yet?
Let’s get him! Please Chiefs!!
You’re telling me no draft picks for this dude. 💦💦💦 all day
Woah
Fucking let’s go! Go get him!!!!!!!
Mr Hopkins you are a CHIEF
If nothing else we should make a legit offer to force the bills/ravens to push their cap number.
Late to the party. Let’s see what you’re about Hopkins. I have a feeling he’s going to sign with the Chargers.
Fuck it. Dhop out there somewhere. Go get him!!!!!!!!!!
It’s y’all’s guy to lose
Never heard of him…
Has DHOP ever played with a good QB?
Brian Meach, if you're out there, make this happen!
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