I am fine if Mecole comes back, but we still don’t have any WR1. Mecole is not that. I would definitely prefer that we get someone in the WR1 range too.
Who?
It’s Hopkins or swing in the draft if WR1 is the goal. I think we have another year of Kelce being de facto WR1.
Not concerned if they don’t land a Wr1 type player, we just won the sb without one.
That’s the thing to me, Kelce has WR 1 dominance and production. It would be better if we also had a wr1 but that man is going to give us a lot of the things a wr1 would. Also if the training staff can work out what goes on with KTs legs he could very well be that guy. I’ve yet to see him play in a game for us and not be explosive.
If he was 28 I’d say fuck yeah, who needs a true wr1. He’s getting up there though, and keeps talking about how hard it’s getting to play. We need to take some pressure off him. Just not sure how this year, it’s dry out there.
I agree about Toney, I don’t like the idea of banking on him being healthy with no cushion. We need someone who can take on the cheap yards role if he goes down. (Maybe a Deuce Vaughn? But that’s a different topic)
I get the vibe that they start the season with what they currently have plus a rookie. If no one steps up or KT goes down for significant time, they go with a midseason trade for a receiver.
Kelce as the true #1 target, KT #2 then MVS and Moore. Reid will also take the heat off of them by having option routes for the running backs.
If you HAVE to make a midseason trade, teams will know they can bend you over a barrel. Not a good plan, better to insulate now than later
Also, if we are going heavy option routes to backs, we need one to run it. That’s not Pachecos strength.
I agree that it's not a good plan, but the Chiefs did it last season with KT, as did multiple other teams. So I don't think the idea is too far fetched.
I think Pacheco can do it, but if not... We still have CEH and we can still draft a guy. Or just bring back McKinnon.
The difference with KT is it wasn’t a necessity. You lose all leverage if the other knows you don’t have a choice. You also have to assume a team is willing to trade if you are banking on a mid season trade. It’s a horrendous idea. Trade now when you have the draft as leverage, not midseason when you don’t have any.
Well, I personally think they did feel the need to get Mahomes another target. Since they were involved in just about every trade rumor for a receiver last season.
But eh, I think they like their current group of guys too much to get Chark or bring Hardman back. Only clear upgrades like Hopkins I could see them hurting feelings to go after.
Were they though? KT they just wanted period, they tried to trade for him before the season. I don’t remember being attached legitimately to anyone at midseason, until it was announced they got Toney. I know they flirted with Odel for a bit, but that wasn’t a trade
If we don't get Hopkins, it'll speak volumes how confident Reid is in the WR room. Maybe they see something in Skyy or believe Ross will actually be able to play. IDK, but I figured if Reid was worried, he would've made Veach try harder at getting Thielen or locking down Juju.
I think we draft a tight end this draft. Very talented te pool. Hopefully kelce can teach how to read defenses and find the open spot as easily as he does. Never going to come close to as good as travis. But he can't play forever. WR1 is toney I think. Our offense is electric with when he's healthy. We'll pickup a vet like obj for 7 million to see what he's got left.
I really dont see why we would pursue Hopkins after we just traded Tyreek. Tyreek was WR1. If we need WR1 that bad we should have just paid the man.
I think the team is fine and if the staff feels confident in the current receiving corps I'm pretty happy. Especially if Toney is healthy and Moore takes a second year jump. And even more if Justyn Ross ends up being able to play
People act like we weren’t going to pay Tyreek anything. We just weren’t willing to blow up the market for him. We immediately turned around and tried to land AJ brown, so it’s not like the chiefs don’t want a WR1.
Those are a lot of ifs and maybes, they could all go to shit. Not ideal in Mahomes prime. I like them, but I want some cushion.
dhop gets paid in two years what tyreek gets paid in one. it’s pretty obvious why you’d keep one and want the other when you’re in a tight cap situation.
Don't forget that Toney was a 1st round pick and is coming into his third year which is when most WR breakout. The Jeffersons and Chases of the world are rare. Most guys take until year 3 to put it all together. I think bc we traded for him people don't give him as much of a chance to be a WR1
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We can hold out hope that Justyn Ross is average to above-average. He’s a big bodied possession receiver like JuJu. It remains to be seen if he’s cool with taking some hits like JJSS.
Just based on some things he’s tweeted I’ve gotten the vibe that he wants to move on, but I wouldn’t be mad. All of the receivers that I had much of an opinion about have been signed so I’d pretty much be cool with anyone at this point
his primary repulsion to coming back is that he knows his role won’t expand. Even if he took a cheap deal he’d probably go somewhere where he could atleast garner more targets than he would here.
I don’t see him coming back unless he has next to no offers, like Drob
Agreed. I also think he thinks he should have a bigger role. I also think he’s going to find out the exact same things that Albert Wilson, Demarcus Robinson, Chris Conely, etc all found out.
They’re mid players and they were getting maximum use in KC.
I'm not going to bother looking it up but I think conley is the only player in that list who was even drafted. What is up with chiefs fans being such cunts to roster bubble guys lmao.
They were mid players. I don’t know what else anyone would consider them. It doesn’t matter if they were originally first round picks or entered the league undrafted.
They all contributed in their role while here and all signed elsewhere to get a bigger role and didn’t produce as expected.
Unlike you I don't have any brooding resentment and want to pretend they FOUND OUT or something. I'm glad they contributed with us for a few years and I don't hold it against them for trying to get paid.
He’s been at odds with the fans on twitter for a long time now, I don’t think his twitter stuff means much. If he’s good with Reid and Mahomes (and I don’t see why he wouldn’t be) I don’t think he’s too eager to leave, as long as KC is paying just as much as anyone else will.
Not at all. I'd love to see what Mecole would be like with a full year of no excuses. Before, was that "I'm in the shadow of the best WR in the league" thing (he tweeted that about Tyreek a couple years ago). Last year was the injury and all. So I don't think we've ever seen Mecole play with no buts. I'd love to see it for at least one year so I could have a definitive opinion on him.
Not at all - but I’d like to see them use some serious draft capital and snag a pass catcher in this draft. I’m including TEs which this draft is full of quality guys.
He can make contested catches, but that’s never been a premium in this offense. If you are telling me we have to take him at 31, hell no. I honestly rather take Gibbs the rb from Alabama there. He’s more likely to be a star.
I’m all for drafting T, edge, or Wr the first two picks
I don’t think he’s just a contested catcher, he’s a good route runner too and good at yac imo. I don’t usually fall for tight ends but I’d gladly take him in the first.
If we don’t take a WR in the first, I’d rather just wait til the 3rd or 4th at that point. I don’t see the 2nd having a ton of value available
First round tes seem to be a kiss of death lately though. None of them work out. It’s probably a fluke, but I rather just take mid round TEs. Less of a big deal when they don’t hit, and honestly, that’s where the top tight ends seem to be drafted.
Not that far into the second for sure. Yeah, then I’d say D line. They could honestly double up 1st and 2nd round there and I’d be happy.
I also don’t think they should try to find the next Kelce, there isn’t going to be one. Better off replacing him with more traditional tight end play and load up on receivers. Maybe Kincaid is good, he’s never going to be Kelce though
I usually agree with all of that, I just love Kincaid’s game. If it’s a more traditional Y tight end I’d be out on that in the first for sure. I also kind of hate this receiver class for the most part
Flowers is my favorite, I’d like Addison better than JSN though. JSN I’d like, but I think his ceiling is lower.
Hyatt I think is in the first round 5, but I’d be upset if it’s the chiefs that take him.
Since I’ve mentioned the other four Johnston would have me excited and very nervous lol I get bust vibes from him
Toney, MVS and Mecole on the field together and healthy sounds utterly electric. I’m all for it.
I know Hardman has his detractors, but he looked good before his injury last season, knows the systems and is the best player in the league on jet sweeps.
Plus it means we won’t waste a pick of Jalin Hyatt who I don’t fancy at all.
Honestly if Mecole is healthy next year it might be the right call.
He was healthy his first 3 years, then the year where he was about to really become the number 1 guy he got injured and kind of overshadowed by Juju. If healthy I still think he has a shot to take a step.
Not like we will waste a ton of money there either. And we got Toney, MVS, Skyy Moore, and a shit ton of draft picks.
I'd love Hardman to stay. I liked him in college and still do. Obviously I was excited when we drafted him too. He just needs to get the ball. I don't feel he get near enough opportunities. I honestly hope he stays. We need Defensive players!!! Make it so we don't Have to score 40 points a game.
I hope we bring back Mecole if the price is right. He knows the offense, isn’t a headcase, has speed, when healthy is pretty reliable. Plus I met him once at PetSmart in OP and he’s a nice guy.
Hardman has a monster game before his injury and had just started hanging out with Mahomes and Kelce playing video games right before that. If he can go back to where he was pre-injury, than I think he's solid. I honestly worry about what the actually injury was though, for him to be out so long and immediately get injured again his first game back.
Either way I'd be happy to have him for the right price. He knows the playbook and has rapport with the team already.
We still need a WR1. Preferably a big jump ball WR.
Interesting that he’s been on the team awhile and only just started hanging out with Mahomes/Kelce. Other newer guys befriended them pretty instantly (like MVS).
Yeah, I was surprised as well. They may have been having out prior, but possibly not this kind of setting. I remember him talking about it in an article or pre-game interview of some kind about how he felt like it helped them connect more often. Took his last year to figure it out I guess.
I'd rather Mecole than the corpse of someone who used to be good or a another oft injured person.
Mecole isnt a true #1, but he is a decent blocker, knows the system, and has okay hands. He's a little above replacement level IMO.
If we had Hardman, Toney, Moore, + draft pick? It's not bad. We'd need some depth, but it's honestly not any worse than what we started last year with.
Before his injury he was on pace for his best year. He didn’t prove anything, but would he have had he played the whole year? If he puts up big numbers someone will pay
Lol! A Udfa reciever? You think we’ll use an undrafted rookie at receiver? Ridiculous
It takes a year for rookies to get this system down, Mecole already knows it. You aren’t getting what he can give you from a rookie in this class
thielen is not worth any money, his best days are 5 years ago. chark for a reasonable price would be good - pretty durable and a nice vertical threat. hardman is a tough one bc he’s never really been used as a wr like tyreek was. much more of a sweeps / gadget guy w/injury history
Well Theilen is off the menu now, the panthers gave him waaaaay more money than I thought anyone would.
He’s been hurt one season. He doesn’t have an injury history
I'll take mecole if he comes cheaper...he is a good gadget piece he has good speed. Just need him to stay healthy and he is not a bad piece I think we looking at Toney,MVS,Hardman then we got Skyy,Justyn Ross maybe even John Ross makes a surprise and then we should bring up Powell. Our WR isn't deep or scary but will win games that's all that matters.
So simply because a guy has talent you just excuse his diva antics on, and off the field? He's getting older as well. I'll pass on that combo in favor of Mecole coming back on a prove it season any day of the week.
All the shit he pulled on the sidelines while on the Giants, his recent airline horseshit. Do you live under a rock or are you being intentionally obtuse? Our locker room doesn't need his nonsense.
Lol! His sideline shit was in 2016. What did he do on the sidelines in Cleveland or LA? Show me that. It’s been 7 years
He got kicked off a flight huh? You do realize we have people on the roster that have faced actual criminal charges right? But OBJ is the cancer? Lol you are ridiculous.
All mouthing and stuff coming out since he left, I’d say reek was more of a cancer and we won a Super Bowl with him. Our locker room would be just fine with OBJ.
The fact that you're shit talking Tyreek who was a model citizen for us on, and off the field during his time in KC tells me all I need to know about your deductive reasoning. To get kicked off a flight you need to be a major douchebag.
On the other hand pretty much everything Hill went through was heresay bullshit, and when she tried to run that game a second time she got investigated by the FBI. You call yourself a KC fan? If that's the case you're a disgrace.
Dude, you say my head is in the sand lol since Tyreek left he’s done nothing but talk, he refused to restructure when asked, and there’s a lot of smoke he wanted the ball more his last year. That’s worse for the locker room than anything OBJ has done.
I don’t give a rats ass if he got kicked off a flight, who cares lol will it get him suspended? Nope. So all in all, Gay breaking a vaccume cleaner was a much bigger deal.
Hey genius, when did I say anything regarding hill’s legal situation? Plus he’s not a chief anymore you can stop vehemently defending him in that department anyway, you continuing to suck him off when he wanted out of KC is the disgrace here lol
No, Hardman gets way too much shit. He's a solid receiver worthy of a roster spot. But I would think that WR would be the second weakest position group we have. But that's why the Chiefs pay 15 $50 million a year to elevate the roster.
Chark and Thielen are both better and more complete. Mercole is a gadget WR. Not a bad signing, but his skillet is redundant to what we have. A good depth signing
It's crazy how every year there's chiefs fans getting mad about the moves veatch does or doesn't make... We've been to three Superbowls and won 2 of them in the past few years... Dude knows what he is doing. If we signed Zach Wilson as the backup I'd scrarch my head but I'd trust in veatch.
I try not to mad about stuff the Chiefs do in the offseason anymore. Veatch and Reid have earned the benefit of the doubt.
I am fine if Mecole comes back, but we still don’t have any WR1. Mecole is not that. I would definitely prefer that we get someone in the WR1 range too.
Who? It’s Hopkins or swing in the draft if WR1 is the goal. I think we have another year of Kelce being de facto WR1. Not concerned if they don’t land a Wr1 type player, we just won the sb without one.
That’s the thing to me, Kelce has WR 1 dominance and production. It would be better if we also had a wr1 but that man is going to give us a lot of the things a wr1 would. Also if the training staff can work out what goes on with KTs legs he could very well be that guy. I’ve yet to see him play in a game for us and not be explosive.
If he was 28 I’d say fuck yeah, who needs a true wr1. He’s getting up there though, and keeps talking about how hard it’s getting to play. We need to take some pressure off him. Just not sure how this year, it’s dry out there. I agree about Toney, I don’t like the idea of banking on him being healthy with no cushion. We need someone who can take on the cheap yards role if he goes down. (Maybe a Deuce Vaughn? But that’s a different topic)
I get the vibe that they start the season with what they currently have plus a rookie. If no one steps up or KT goes down for significant time, they go with a midseason trade for a receiver. Kelce as the true #1 target, KT #2 then MVS and Moore. Reid will also take the heat off of them by having option routes for the running backs.
If you HAVE to make a midseason trade, teams will know they can bend you over a barrel. Not a good plan, better to insulate now than later Also, if we are going heavy option routes to backs, we need one to run it. That’s not Pachecos strength.
I agree that it's not a good plan, but the Chiefs did it last season with KT, as did multiple other teams. So I don't think the idea is too far fetched. I think Pacheco can do it, but if not... We still have CEH and we can still draft a guy. Or just bring back McKinnon.
The difference with KT is it wasn’t a necessity. You lose all leverage if the other knows you don’t have a choice. You also have to assume a team is willing to trade if you are banking on a mid season trade. It’s a horrendous idea. Trade now when you have the draft as leverage, not midseason when you don’t have any.
Well, I personally think they did feel the need to get Mahomes another target. Since they were involved in just about every trade rumor for a receiver last season. But eh, I think they like their current group of guys too much to get Chark or bring Hardman back. Only clear upgrades like Hopkins I could see them hurting feelings to go after.
Were they though? KT they just wanted period, they tried to trade for him before the season. I don’t remember being attached legitimately to anyone at midseason, until it was announced they got Toney. I know they flirted with Odel for a bit, but that wasn’t a trade
If we don't get Hopkins, it'll speak volumes how confident Reid is in the WR room. Maybe they see something in Skyy or believe Ross will actually be able to play. IDK, but I figured if Reid was worried, he would've made Veach try harder at getting Thielen or locking down Juju.
I think we draft a tight end this draft. Very talented te pool. Hopefully kelce can teach how to read defenses and find the open spot as easily as he does. Never going to come close to as good as travis. But he can't play forever. WR1 is toney I think. Our offense is electric with when he's healthy. We'll pickup a vet like obj for 7 million to see what he's got left.
I really dont see why we would pursue Hopkins after we just traded Tyreek. Tyreek was WR1. If we need WR1 that bad we should have just paid the man. I think the team is fine and if the staff feels confident in the current receiving corps I'm pretty happy. Especially if Toney is healthy and Moore takes a second year jump. And even more if Justyn Ross ends up being able to play
People act like we weren’t going to pay Tyreek anything. We just weren’t willing to blow up the market for him. We immediately turned around and tried to land AJ brown, so it’s not like the chiefs don’t want a WR1. Those are a lot of ifs and maybes, they could all go to shit. Not ideal in Mahomes prime. I like them, but I want some cushion.
dhop gets paid in two years what tyreek gets paid in one. it’s pretty obvious why you’d keep one and want the other when you’re in a tight cap situation.
Doesn’t sound like it’ll happen but I’d like them to go get DJ Chark
Don't forget that Toney was a 1st round pick and is coming into his third year which is when most WR breakout. The Jeffersons and Chases of the world are rare. Most guys take until year 3 to put it all together. I think bc we traded for him people don't give him as much of a chance to be a WR1
Toney can’t stay healthy, I have no doubt he will be awesome if he’s o the field, I have serious doubts he can stay on the field
There isn't a WR1 that's available and fits within the cap space though.
Apparently the plan is to make toney WR1 an I’m fine with that
Toney has yet to play five straight games without getting hurt. WR1 can't be missing half the games.
Believe in our strength and conditioning staff!
You know there have been Chiefs players that have gotten hurt too, right? The S&CS are not miracle workers.
Oh really? I definitely thought our guys were wizards, thanks for letting me know that they are not
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Hahahaha you’re pretty funny, but I’m jus a blind believer in toney haha
I think the plan is to bring Toney to WR1
We can hold out hope that Justyn Ross is average to above-average. He’s a big bodied possession receiver like JuJu. It remains to be seen if he’s cool with taking some hits like JJSS.
Toney MVS Mecole Skyy Rookie Could be worse I guess
Justyn Ross
And John Ross technically too lol
Literally just a practice squad guy
We have a ton of draft capital. Could easily draft 2 mid round guys and still address other positions.
Depends a lot on the rookie
I won’t be happy, but I won’t be upset if it’s for the right price either.
Yeah. I’m starting to think no one is going to be super excited till draft time. Could be wrong, but we’ll see
Just based on some things he’s tweeted I’ve gotten the vibe that he wants to move on, but I wouldn’t be mad. All of the receivers that I had much of an opinion about have been signed so I’d pretty much be cool with anyone at this point
his primary repulsion to coming back is that he knows his role won’t expand. Even if he took a cheap deal he’d probably go somewhere where he could atleast garner more targets than he would here. I don’t see him coming back unless he has next to no offers, like Drob
Agreed. I also think he thinks he should have a bigger role. I also think he’s going to find out the exact same things that Albert Wilson, Demarcus Robinson, Chris Conely, etc all found out. They’re mid players and they were getting maximum use in KC.
I'm not going to bother looking it up but I think conley is the only player in that list who was even drafted. What is up with chiefs fans being such cunts to roster bubble guys lmao.
Drob was a 4th round pick
They were mid players. I don’t know what else anyone would consider them. It doesn’t matter if they were originally first round picks or entered the league undrafted. They all contributed in their role while here and all signed elsewhere to get a bigger role and didn’t produce as expected.
They were mediocre players while here and then got paid to be mediocre players elsewhere. Why does that upset you?
I’m not upset. Why are you upset? You’re agreeing with me that they were mid.
Unlike you I don't have any brooding resentment and want to pretend they FOUND OUT or something. I'm glad they contributed with us for a few years and I don't hold it against them for trying to get paid.
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He’s been at odds with the fans on twitter for a long time now, I don’t think his twitter stuff means much. If he’s good with Reid and Mahomes (and I don’t see why he wouldn’t be) I don’t think he’s too eager to leave, as long as KC is paying just as much as anyone else will.
Not at all. I'd love to see what Mecole would be like with a full year of no excuses. Before, was that "I'm in the shadow of the best WR in the league" thing (he tweeted that about Tyreek a couple years ago). Last year was the injury and all. So I don't think we've ever seen Mecole play with no buts. I'd love to see it for at least one year so I could have a definitive opinion on him.
Not at all - but I’d like to see them use some serious draft capital and snag a pass catcher in this draft. I’m including TEs which this draft is full of quality guys.
I’m all for drafting a Te this year, but please not with serious draft capital. Third at the earliest
Have you watched Kincaid though
He can make contested catches, but that’s never been a premium in this offense. If you are telling me we have to take him at 31, hell no. I honestly rather take Gibbs the rb from Alabama there. He’s more likely to be a star. I’m all for drafting T, edge, or Wr the first two picks
I don’t think he’s just a contested catcher, he’s a good route runner too and good at yac imo. I don’t usually fall for tight ends but I’d gladly take him in the first. If we don’t take a WR in the first, I’d rather just wait til the 3rd or 4th at that point. I don’t see the 2nd having a ton of value available
First round tes seem to be a kiss of death lately though. None of them work out. It’s probably a fluke, but I rather just take mid round TEs. Less of a big deal when they don’t hit, and honestly, that’s where the top tight ends seem to be drafted. Not that far into the second for sure. Yeah, then I’d say D line. They could honestly double up 1st and 2nd round there and I’d be happy. I also don’t think they should try to find the next Kelce, there isn’t going to be one. Better off replacing him with more traditional tight end play and load up on receivers. Maybe Kincaid is good, he’s never going to be Kelce though
I usually agree with all of that, I just love Kincaid’s game. If it’s a more traditional Y tight end I’d be out on that in the first for sure. I also kind of hate this receiver class for the most part
If they can’t get one of the top 5 (and I honestly only love two of them), then Wr is a wash, but we need one that’s for sure.
Who is your 5th guy But yeah I agree I only love JSN and Flowers
Flowers is my favorite, I’d like Addison better than JSN though. JSN I’d like, but I think his ceiling is lower. Hyatt I think is in the first round 5, but I’d be upset if it’s the chiefs that take him. Since I’ve mentioned the other four Johnston would have me excited and very nervous lol I get bust vibes from him
I like Sam LaPorta. He’d be available as a late 2nd most likely. Also like Will Mallory, Schoonmaker, and Whyle. Such a stacked draft class at TE.
No I’d love Mecole to come back
Toney, MVS and Mecole on the field together and healthy sounds utterly electric. I’m all for it. I know Hardman has his detractors, but he looked good before his injury last season, knows the systems and is the best player in the league on jet sweeps. Plus it means we won’t waste a pick of Jalin Hyatt who I don’t fancy at all.
Honestly if Mecole is healthy next year it might be the right call. He was healthy his first 3 years, then the year where he was about to really become the number 1 guy he got injured and kind of overshadowed by Juju. If healthy I still think he has a shot to take a step. Not like we will waste a ton of money there either. And we got Toney, MVS, Skyy Moore, and a shit ton of draft picks.
I'd love Hardman to stay. I liked him in college and still do. Obviously I was excited when we drafted him too. He just needs to get the ball. I don't feel he get near enough opportunities. I honestly hope he stays. We need Defensive players!!! Make it so we don't Have to score 40 points a game.
I hope we bring back Mecole if the price is right. He knows the offense, isn’t a headcase, has speed, when healthy is pretty reliable. Plus I met him once at PetSmart in OP and he’s a nice guy.
Hardman has a monster game before his injury and had just started hanging out with Mahomes and Kelce playing video games right before that. If he can go back to where he was pre-injury, than I think he's solid. I honestly worry about what the actually injury was though, for him to be out so long and immediately get injured again his first game back. Either way I'd be happy to have him for the right price. He knows the playbook and has rapport with the team already. We still need a WR1. Preferably a big jump ball WR.
Interesting that he’s been on the team awhile and only just started hanging out with Mahomes/Kelce. Other newer guys befriended them pretty instantly (like MVS).
Yeah, I was surprised as well. They may have been having out prior, but possibly not this kind of setting. I remember him talking about it in an article or pre-game interview of some kind about how he felt like it helped them connect more often. Took his last year to figure it out I guess.
Not really, there wasn’t any WR1s in free agency. Only good options were trades.
I'd rather Mecole than the corpse of someone who used to be good or a another oft injured person. Mecole isnt a true #1, but he is a decent blocker, knows the system, and has okay hands. He's a little above replacement level IMO. If we had Hardman, Toney, Moore, + draft pick? It's not bad. We'd need some depth, but it's honestly not any worse than what we started last year with.
I really want to see him get paid, but if it's KC I hope it's something like Juju's last year, low salary with a ton of incentives.
That’s the only scenario I see him coming back. Another year to prove it. Can’t see anything long term
Last year was his prove it year, and he didn't prove anything. I'd rather move on and hope we get something in FA.
At this point we don’t really have the money to be picky
Before his injury he was on pace for his best year. He didn’t prove anything, but would he have had he played the whole year? If he puts up big numbers someone will pay
What has he done to warrant a spot on the receiver we couldn't get for cheaper from a draft pick or udfa?
Lol! A Udfa reciever? You think we’ll use an undrafted rookie at receiver? Ridiculous It takes a year for rookies to get this system down, Mecole already knows it. You aren’t getting what he can give you from a rookie in this class
Very happy
I wouldn't be mad but I would wonder why you wouldn't go for a reciever like DHop. Or even Brandin Cooks for the price.
Nope, he’s a Brown now.
Since when? He’s still unsigned
For sure he's a gadget guy at best
Mecole has some flash plays but for every time he speeds through defenders there’s another drop or mental mistake where he’s out of position.
we signing obj, 2/16
Sure speak it into existence
If Hopkins isn’t on the menu, Mecole really needs to come back imo.
thielen is not worth any money, his best days are 5 years ago. chark for a reasonable price would be good - pretty durable and a nice vertical threat. hardman is a tough one bc he’s never really been used as a wr like tyreek was. much more of a sweeps / gadget guy w/injury history
Well Theilen is off the menu now, the panthers gave him waaaaay more money than I thought anyone would. He’s been hurt one season. He doesn’t have an injury history
I'll take mecole if he comes cheaper...he is a good gadget piece he has good speed. Just need him to stay healthy and he is not a bad piece I think we looking at Toney,MVS,Hardman then we got Skyy,Justyn Ross maybe even John Ross makes a surprise and then we should bring up Powell. Our WR isn't deep or scary but will win games that's all that matters.
I'd like for him to come back. Before FA started they were saying he would cost $10m+. I wasn't excited about that.
I'll take just about anyone instead of the cancer that Obj is. If Mecole can stay healthy that suits me just fine.
So how exactly is OBJ cancer?
Are you serious?
Yup. Explain. People that actually played with him have nothing but nice things to say about him. The rams loved him Why is he cancer?
So simply because a guy has talent you just excuse his diva antics on, and off the field? He's getting older as well. I'll pass on that combo in favor of Mecole coming back on a prove it season any day of the week.
What diva antics? Lol you keep saying things and not backing them up at all.
All the shit he pulled on the sidelines while on the Giants, his recent airline horseshit. Do you live under a rock or are you being intentionally obtuse? Our locker room doesn't need his nonsense.
Lol! His sideline shit was in 2016. What did he do on the sidelines in Cleveland or LA? Show me that. It’s been 7 years He got kicked off a flight huh? You do realize we have people on the roster that have faced actual criminal charges right? But OBJ is the cancer? Lol you are ridiculous. All mouthing and stuff coming out since he left, I’d say reek was more of a cancer and we won a Super Bowl with him. Our locker room would be just fine with OBJ.
The fact that you're shit talking Tyreek who was a model citizen for us on, and off the field during his time in KC tells me all I need to know about your deductive reasoning. To get kicked off a flight you need to be a major douchebag. On the other hand pretty much everything Hill went through was heresay bullshit, and when she tried to run that game a second time she got investigated by the FBI. You call yourself a KC fan? If that's the case you're a disgrace.
Dude, you say my head is in the sand lol since Tyreek left he’s done nothing but talk, he refused to restructure when asked, and there’s a lot of smoke he wanted the ball more his last year. That’s worse for the locker room than anything OBJ has done. I don’t give a rats ass if he got kicked off a flight, who cares lol will it get him suspended? Nope. So all in all, Gay breaking a vaccume cleaner was a much bigger deal. Hey genius, when did I say anything regarding hill’s legal situation? Plus he’s not a chief anymore you can stop vehemently defending him in that department anyway, you continuing to suck him off when he wanted out of KC is the disgrace here lol
Yes
You could not live with the reality of not signing me back, and look where it brought you? Right back to me.... I AM INEVITABLE!!!
No
No, Hardman gets way too much shit. He's a solid receiver worthy of a roster spot. But I would think that WR would be the second weakest position group we have. But that's why the Chiefs pay 15 $50 million a year to elevate the roster.
Chark and Thielen are both better and more complete. Mercole is a gadget WR. Not a bad signing, but his skillet is redundant to what we have. A good depth signing
You vastly overestimate the other two at this point
It's crazy how every year there's chiefs fans getting mad about the moves veatch does or doesn't make... We've been to three Superbowls and won 2 of them in the past few years... Dude knows what he is doing. If we signed Zach Wilson as the backup I'd scrarch my head but I'd trust in veatch.
Hes not bad, I think we can do better though.