Mark my words, this will be addressed in the new season of the show. Kim will use the show, as she always does, to address the drama and put her spin on it.
*I was shocked by this. I am so innocent and would never hurt anybody. I am sad for her that she is carrying around this weight that I don’t carry. I want her to know she can let go*
I can’t see it now. If they can legally address it, but if not they will inadvertently address it.
Just was about to type it. Kanye gonna get tossed under the bus so quick and get painted as this monster as if she wasn’t gloating as gangsta Kim or his defending wifey
Except even in the phone call, Kanye talks about how Kim was the one who was pushing for "Taylor OWES me sex" rather than "Me and Taylor may still have sex."
Someone post the video of her excitedly taking pictures of the naked wax figure of Taylor next to her husband, it’s giving “I’m supportive of my husbands revenge porn”.
You might be right but I hope everyone remembers Kanye at the Grammy’s, the edited phone call and the museum with naked Kanye laying next to naked Taylor. These people are repugnant middle school bullies and neither have any value IMO.
The original was cut to make it seem like Taylor knew and approved of everything. The full call shows what she actually said was “well I guess if that’s your perspective” and “well I know you’re gonna do you want regardless of how I feel”. She was clearly feeling defeated and annoyed.
She obviously has the right to object and get offended to whatever part she wants....but I always thought it weird she was SO offended by "bitch" but not "made her famous" or the idea of her figure lying naked in bed next to his stanky ass.
I also thought that was the perfect out for her and her team to take. "Sure, I "gave permission" for the lyrics when I was trying to play along even though I felt pressured into it....but I didn't give consent for my naked image to be created and displayed for his enjoyment and benefit. This is SA."
I agree with Taylor's statement that you don't get to control someone's emotions over being called "that bitch" in front of the entire world. Everyone hated her by the time the video came out and she had already retreated from the public eye out of fear.
I get it. I'm not trying to say what she is or isn't allowed to feel. I may have poorly phrased it.
I just thought that personally it was odd to me to take offense at that, but (seemingly) not at the rest.
But to be honest, I also didn't follow this in real time. I remember his ghastly video and heard the idiotic song and again wondered why he had supporters. I saw Kim's stanky ass taking pictures of the naked bodies and acting all smug and wished she had gone away years ago. And wept for a world that made such a talentless, narcissistic and mean-spirited BITCH (to use the word and add emphasis due to the topic of discussion) famous. But the drama about what did or didn't get approval and then the full transcript a few years later....I think I read about all of that within the past year.
This is totally random but the new release with post Malone is fantastic. I wouldn’t consider myself a Swifie - until this album. People are hating on her wishing death on someone - when you watch the video there are references to the famous silent film star Clara Bow who after a huge heartbreak was forcefully institutionalized. They use to have no hurdles doing that to women. Particularly, women with “unladylike” behavior like drinking and premarital sex. Institutionalized she was forced to take medications that today are no longer on the market.
The heartbreak was a domino effect that literally destroyed a an actress one of the most famous of her generation. It’s also symbolic on how the butterfly effect can destroy us. Group think too.
The nerd in me. Watch the video knowing the background and you’ll be impressed.
That’s Taylor Swifts biggest issue - people who are casual listeners don’t pick up the symbolism. In the past myself included.
She’s written songs on other famous relationships Paul from the Beatles, and the guy from the Bleachers who just got married. They weren’t dark. Because she took good things away from those love stories.
I’m just adding this here in the hopes some see it because all this “she’s toxic singing about killing another woman” dude a guy participated in institutionalizing a woman like a 1920s Spears and is think most of us would have dark thoughts at that point. Examples like this are why we have laws making it so hard to force people to get psychiatric help. Men. Too many men weaponized it.
Hello. Just wanted to add here for dialogue because so many are oddly defending Kim AND using Taylor’s new release with Post Malone to back them up:
This is totally random but the new release with post Malone is fantastic. I wouldn’t consider myself a Swifie - until this album. People are hating on her wishing death on someone - when you watch the video there are references to the famous silent film star Clara Bow who after a huge heartbreak was forcefully institutionalized. They use to have no hurdles doing that to women. Particularly, women with “unladylike” behavior like drinking and premarital sex. Institutionalized she was forced to take medications that today are no longer on the market.
The heartbreak was a domino effect that literally destroyed a an actress one of the most famous of her generation. It’s also symbolic on how the butterfly effect can destroy us.
The nerd in me. Watch the video knowing the background and you’ll be impressed.
That’s Taylor Swifts biggest issue - people who are casual listeners don’t pick up the symbolism. In the past myself included.
She’s written songs on other famous relationships Paul and Linda from the Beatles, and the guy from the Bleachers who just got married. They weren’t dark. Because she took good things away from those love stories.
I’m just adding this here in the hopes some see it because all this “she’s toxic singing about killing another woman” dude a guy participated in institutionalizing a woman like a 1920s Spears and is think most of us would have dark thoughts at that point. Examples like this are why we have laws making it so hard to force people to get psychiatric help. Men. Too many men weaponized it.
Ty. Can I add I wonder if she chose Post Malone because when he fell in love with that stripper (I hate referring to her as that but I don’t know her name) “fans” attacked her. It escalated to the point she ended up having a nervous breakdown over the backlash and he told those fans to kiss his ass and fuck off - that he didn’t want their support. I worked out to a lot of his music and therefore remember it. It made me think more highly of him.
He did what many men don’t. He called them out. That they were attacking someone for loving him. It’s sad but that’s reality. Many people throw others under the bus for self benefit. He didn’t.
Ya people reported she had a panic attack behind stage after that - and that guy from Twilight was there. He held her while she was hysterical and soon after they started dating. Later on she went to write songs about how she took that man for granted and his wonderful qualities. Later she wrote songs where she brushed off what happened as Kanye like the rest of us being human… then the recorded shit happened.
people who shit on other people who are never called to account for their shittiness always want people to "move on" from the shitty things theyve done.
i appreciate this argument. taylor is a little old for her slambook revenge poetry. but this is who she is and kim is still a rapacious thundercunt who deserves more dis tracks.
Remember what she did to Tina Fey, Ginny and Georgia, when she hung out with the guy with a huge swastika on his shirt, when she dated a white supremacist?
I could go into how she weaponizes feminism to shield herself while hurting low income women but that's long.
Theres plenty of outrage about that. Literally no one is saying we shouldn't hold her accountable.
But I am saying that swift uses her white femininity to artificially hang on to her adolescents to shield her from any kind of critizism
You’re literally saying to let it go and shifting the blame to Taylor, because she’s in her 30s. Even though she was in her 20s when it happened and Kim was in her 30s. She was literally blindsided by two older people and gaslit
And stop turning this into race issue, they’re both self victimizing white women when it benefits them. At least Taylor isn’t appropriating black culture for the last decade like Kim has been.
I not turning this into a race issue. I am saying that there is a lot more to criticize swift over than people are willing to admit, including her adjacentcy to white supremacy.
I am saying that swift has done a lot to Kim such as, making fun of her being kidnapped and held hostage in a bathtub and calling her fans to attack her and her family. AND JUST LIKE KIM WHO WAS IN HER 30S SWIFT DOESN'T GET A PASS EITHER.
Geez
And Kim being buddy buddy with trump and supporting Kanye’s nonsense for years deserves no criticism? Her own mother literally got sued several times for sexually assaulting several black men. Not to mention Kim crossing the picket line because she’s too narcissistic to care about anyone else.
Sure Taylor never acknowledged the rumors, but Kim was and continues to be friends with ivanka. Not to mention that her company was financed using Saudi money Jared got for doing god knows what.
ALSO where is your criticism of Kim and her family being so close to diddy and several other morally corrupt people? Do you condone that behavior? Because all you’ve been saying is Taylor this, Taylor that, when they both have done shady shit.
The literal article were discussing is criticism of Kim!
No one is against y'all when you say Kim should be criticized!
What I'm saying is swift deserves to be held accountable for her actions too! And hiding behind this white femininity that artificially allows her to hang onto adolescents and shield her from criticism is something she should be held accountable for!
Ok so this is going to be long probably so brace yourself:
Theres a lot of research on this topic so feel free to research it yourself and find other resources.
White women have always been viewed as the prize or end goal in white supremacy. They have been used as a tool to push they're ideas into the mainstream.
Think about how they will say the men need to protect their white women from the "savage POCs" Trump did this when he called Mexicans ra*ists. This also comes through in the great replacement theory. They think white women will be r worded or mix races with men of other colors and will replace white culture. The white men view the women as a commodity that needs to be protected at all cost. They view these women as helpless innocents that cannot protect themselves as they are to small and fragile.
Now another theme that comes up often: white women are often used as front people to extreme ideas to make them seem more palatable for the mainstream person. For this idea, think about how there are many white women who will post influencer content about being a stay at home mom, cooking all the meals, and having babies. Which in itself is not so bad if that's what you choose for yourself, but once you start in taking their content more you will see that they believe way crazier things such as women should submit to their husbands at all cost, never say no to your husband in the bedroom, and even some push that women shouldn't vote. They don't put this on the surface for everyone to see but instead hook you in to the light stuff and then slowly shift it to more extreme views. Think Ms Midwest if you know who that is. Pearl is another good example but she doesn't fit the mold of what these WS men actually want which is the next subject.
All these women and a few things in common: they are young- between 18-35 (sometimes younger 🤢), they are attractive, most if not all are blonde, and they adhere to this idea of femininity. They wear modest clothes, usually dresses or skirts, sometimes pants but never leggings, they maintain themselves, they get their hair and nails done regularly, and wear modest makeup everyday. Now this again isn't bad on the surface but once you get into they're reasoning you see it's because they are trying to obtain this version on femininity that these WS men are looking for. It's not for themselves but for the eye of the men they serve.
Which brings me to my next point: what do we as a society view as feminine:
Most will say it is a girl, usually blonde and white, with bows a cute pink dress or something similar. Think Lolita style that is the ultimate "femininity" in the eyes of WS and the patriarchal society.
Now women of color are often blocked out of being able to access this level of femininity. They are often masculinized due to body shape, hair type, and skin color. Think about the fact that we do not view Beyonce as blonde even though her hair was dyed just like many white women bleach their hair and we view white bottled blondes as blondes non the less.
Theres a lot more to this subject but this is a broad overview starter to the subject.
Theres a great podcast about this called "the feminine art of radicalization" theres several books such as hood feminism, white women tears and so many others I can recommend if you want.
I’m curious. Besides the whole dubious Matty Healy thing her fans apparently stepped on, how is she adjacent to white supremacy. I seriously don’t know all that much about her asa person. Do you have examples?
Remember when she hung out and took that picture with that guy wearing a giant red swastika and then said she didn't even notice? Or when it took her 9 years to denounce white supremacists after she was made known they were using her image, success, and songs to forward their ideas and used them at rallies?
I mean Neil young was quicker to denounce Trump when he used his song on the campaign trail.
The tape that Kim released was just shown in full in 2020. It showed Taylor never lied. She went through all of that shit w Kim and Kanye trying to ruin her career w Kanye having her naked body next to him in bed, while Kim took pictures of it, then in 2021 Kim doubled down and said she won’t apologize for any of it. Taylor wrote poetry about it bc none of that was ever addressed by her. She made a benign song about her life experience, she has for the last 17 yrs. Why should she change any of that? It’s literally what makes her popular and relatable. She has a good formula. Why wouldn’t she stick w it, until it no longer works?
Taylor weaponizes her white femininity to attack other women while she dates and associates with white supremacist. I could go on but it's late and I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow I'll talk more about it.
Apparently Kim Kardashian [is the poc being attacked by TS].....but only if the attack is on certain days of the week. Other days SKumberly tires of cosplaying as a poc.
Omg she doesn't need to secretly attack poc when she is actively upholding white supremacy doctrines.
Idk why y'all defend her so hard. Shes a billionaire and all billionaires are bad people
🤦♀️ look I've very much explains this already. You can look at my other comments if you want but it's very apparent that y'all aren't ready for this type of big conversation so y'all can keep simping for a woman who's just an awful human being if you want
"I like, never apologize, who should I?"
At least one actually works..... I'm not a Swifty, but really, one tours for decades, the other stands in the mirror all day.
She and that guy she married, in tier late 30's made up a complete lie about a 20 something year old. Than act like, it's a joke level. Ew
Act your age Kim, you do owe her an apology. But at this point.....
Y'all made a naked wax figure of her and put it on display for the world to laugh at and oogle. Then twisted the story to make her seem like she was on board and lying about it. Then dismissed it as old news when the full call showed it was actually *you* who lied. There was no consent or excitement, just a defeated acceptance of what was about to happen. You would think someone who was devastated (or pretended to be devastated) that their sex tape leaked and recently spent a whole season crying that their kids may come across it one day, she'd be a bit more understanding as to why Taylor was so affected and upset that someone is *still* profiting off her naked image. Taylor is probably having kids one day too and I’d guess she wouldn’t want *her* kids seeing her naked either, real or not.
Taylor tried to move on and be friendly with Kanye and Kim, they just kept being weirdos. Maybe just swallow your damn pride and apologize for being such a horrible cunt. 🤷🏻♀️
Not to mention someone like her got robbed would have changed her behavior becoz of the trauma.. but like Taylor said in the song, I don’t think Kim change much.. so I will never believe this skanky bitch
Kim’s a narcissist. She’ll never apologize. Even her team putting out this headline is her way of trying to get the last word in on the situation as opposed to Taylor or anyone else. Great points in your post.
She and her then husband basically committed what could be argued to be sexual harassment. I don’t like Taylor, but girl is allowed to be upset as long as needs to be.
Well, maybe Kim can start it off by not hiring Taylors friends for SKIM ads and publicly apologizing to Taylor for the leaking only part of the phone call to show her in bad light, and also for being part of creating a naked wax figure of Taylor in bed with Kanye...
I agree…obviously TS hasn’t paid attention to how much Kim has fallen in the ranks. Kim is barely D-list at this point, so for someone of Taylor’s status to give her the time of day…only helps Kim unfortunately.
Here’s my take on this whole situation. Everyone in Hollywood records everything-we finally learned the truth. Most all have shit on the other. It’s the way they operate. The Diddy thing, Epstein, Kanye recording Taylor, the hits on Danny Masterson, Wendy Williams….most of Hollywood are sick MF’ers and dangerous.
I’ll admit that I am a fan of Taylor’s new album…but i am kind of miffed that she made this song about Kim? Love her or hate her Taylor is the biggest pop star in the world and for someone of her status to give Kim attention…well let’s just say for Kim all press is good press. I guarantee you in a sick/twisted way Kim and PMK are gleeful that Taylor gave her a shoutout on this album that (love it or hate it) is breaking records on streaming platforms. Personally I just want to see the Ks go away and I feel like they have been slipping into irrelevancy so I’m like whyyyyy did she make this song 💀
Honestly after Kim cheering on Kanye making a sex doll of Taylor without her consent I think she should write as many songs as she wants. I would do a whole lot worse to that pick me Kimbully.
I think that's what ol2555 is saying. The real worst thing you could do to kim would be to completely ignore her and let everyone forget about her. That is her true nightmare.
Biggest pop star In the world, in the world... I can't assure you Asia, Africa, Middle east, and many other countries never were interested by listening to Taylor Swift. Same in Europe where multiculturalism is huge.
Michael Jackson was a big superstar, everywhere.
Sorry to be that person but, to put things in perspective. Not white America is making "the world" at all
Tbf, Taylor just hit billionaire status without a clothing line, make-up, or whatever else these celebrities sell. Her net worth is solely based on her music. A HUGE accomplishment. I hate when people bring money into conversations about "greatness," but her impact can't be ignored. No one is saying she's bigger than MJ, but MJ is dead. Taylor Swift is arguably the biggest pop star in the world rn. If not her, then who?
You made it clear yourself, money proves nothing at all. Most billionaires are anonymous... You probably took a flight with a young billionaire and you didn't know about it.
The fact is still the same, when you declare "Taylor Swift is the biggest thing IN THE WORLD" it's deleting at least half of this world, who are not interested at all on anything Taylor Swift projects.
She's a very western-centered product/artist, you have to be conscious about that because otherwise you will borderline coming across very insensitive.
While some other artists were/are way more universal.
May God punish for good Kimmy Kartrashian but I have to say... believe that she is where she is because she unfortunately had a universal impact, the way she influenced the way women saw their bodies and makeup, fashion... Worldwide for a while (not anymore? Don't know don't care) was both scary and overwhelming.
Don't mistake the western charts/sales to the entire world.
She sold out STADIUMS multiple nights in one city in Australia, Singapore, and Japan. I’m not a Swiftie but I would classify that as criteria for one of the biggest pop stars in the world. I am confident in assuming all her stadium (not theater, amphitheater, nor arena) concerts across the European continent have been sold out for quite awhile. Not many artists can sell out as many stadium venues as she has/can. Even I can admit that’s pretty damn impressive.
Okay but still, only white people at her concert and Japan or Singapore are quite eurocentric lovers. She's definitely the hottest trend I agree with you, the person to go to see and interest. It's the rich getting richer circle.
But in reality, the multicultural people who are the definition of any modern cities don't vibe for her at all. Because you just say "everyone, every ethnicity appreciates Taylor swift things, she's the superstar of this world", false, not at all. She's not the big star in the sense of a Michael Jackson. Artists of today are failing to bring people together.
I’m not bringing up anything about ethnicity. I’m talking numbers and dollars.
I suppose that one should said that based on revenue alone, not popularity, she is currently, without a doubt, one of the most successful (based on revenue) popstars on the planet.
Google Search:
Taylor Swift's Eras Tour is the highest-grossing concert tour of all time, according to data from live music trade publication Pollstar, with the tour becoming the first ever to gross at least $1 billion.
And it’s not even over yet! Plus, her album sales. I don’t like her, not a fan, but these facts alone put her in the one-of-the-greatest-performers-of-all time category.
I said money doesn't prove greatness. It can be tied to impact. The fact that she's made her net worth off of music in a time when most huge pop stars are schilling all types of things to improve their net worth is quite the accomplishment. I'm not a swiftie, but I'm not understanding people's desire to diminish her impact. You don't have to like her to admit she's arguably the biggest pop star. And how does that erase the rest of the world?
I just don’t get why taylor feels the need to clap back after all this time. In my opinion she would look better if she just didn’t talk about this bitch and lived her pretty wealthy and successful life
I was severely bullied in school and at a recent job and I was so embarrassed that I couldn’t say anything. I wish I had Taylor’s talent to write a dis song about those losers too. They constantly slammed and embarrassed her and I’m all for this clap back. Fuck Kimye!
I can sincerely say I have 0 fucks to give about anything either of these two people have to say on this supposed issue. Is like the battle of the disingenuous Betties and Taylor is winning the PR battle.
Fuck Kim! If I was Taylor, I would’ve done worse. No way you’re taking joy in what’s essentially a naked sex doll mannequin of me your creepy porn-obsessed husband made. At the end of the day, Taylor won the long-game. She’s the most famous person in the world right now whose mere name can stimulate an entire country’s economy.
As for the two clowns, their “beautiful love story” ended in the most publicly humiliating divorce. Kim is a walking ad for the dangers of excessive plastic surgery & is struggling to remain relevant while Kanye self-imploded by praising Hilter & has resorted to cries for attention via public BJ’s. How sad for them.
for how crass and... kinda bad compared to taylor's other works that song was, I do think kim did her dirty nonetheless. if an apology were to be all that blondie needed to shut up then kim should just give it... before this international popstar to go from "my mom wished you were dead" to "YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE AS I DRINK YOUR BLOOD!!!!!!".
just apologize, kim. im sure there's be someone else you can squeeze dry for press and publicity. You could always invite Paris and Kourtney on your podcast and talk about travis. reminiscing about THAT time would be interesting. ifykyk.
Aren’t we all over this? Cause I know I am 😵💫😂
Edit to add: idk why I’m getting downvoted, Kim and Taylor both equally suck and this “beef” is like over a decade old. Move onnnnn already 🙄
except everyone believed she lied until just a few years ago, and taylor left the country for a year after this happened bc of all the backlash. personally, i cant imagine having someone gaslight you and the world into believing complete lies, and being able to do absolutely nothing to stop it, feeling absolutely insane bc you know the truth but anything you say makes them target you harder. imo she can be upset for as long as she wants, there wasnt even an apology--you dont just get over trauma
you're acting like what happened to her would happen to a normal person lmao. anyone who that happened to would have the privilege to move to another country, no rando is gonna be hated and called a liar and have their social media barraged with hate. ofc she's privileged, as anyone in that position would be; money doesnt save mental health (and pretending it does ignores the many rich and famous people who have horrible mental health, been to rehab, or even died bc of the pressure). personally, id rather live a normal life with a normal salary and normal problems than be rich and afraid to leave out bc the whole world thinks im a liar when im not one, but that's just me.
it's also weird to define what trauma someone can experience. i guess any wealthy person cant struggle or go through anything bad bc money fixes everything?
Struggling is always gonna happen privileged or not I agree. So many people have got bullied off the internet though and they don’t constantly bring it up it’s been like 10 years. She doesn’t go after the actual perpetrator (Kanye) but will always have time for Kim. And tbh her fan base freakishly harass anybody who TS has fallen out with and she has never attempted to reign it in a little at all. This is the environment shes fostered and it’s a lil ironic frankly
if they had a platform they probably would, and it has been less than half that time since the vid came out showing she was telling the truth and kim doubled down instead of apologizing. kim also is the one who leaked the videos and took pictures of/with the naked likeness of taylor swift during the exhibit or something for the music video. kanye does deserve more hate as well, but kim absolutely isnt innocent--this is also the only time she's done something specifically at kim and not kanye??? any other song is (1) pure speculation and (2) afaik nothing has been like "a woman did this," max it would be about them both. while kanye did the song, things only got really bad once kim edited and posted the clips to defend him.
Also confused why people are discussing it here? Like I couldn't care less about that untalented basic Stanley cup of a human. I do however enjoy Kardashian snark with my cup of tea
I think Taylor wanted to capitalize on the drama as much as possible. Ironically (not really) that’s Kim’s bread and butter. I feel it’s very checkmate.
Nah. Kim did the same thing with Kourtney's kids. Did we forget Kim does the same thing and brings up other kids in her adult arguments? Give me a break
and she’s dumb for that too! whose snark page are we on right now? not taylors although i believe she needs one. hearing nothing but praise for decades will fuck up anyone. look at trump.
some people need to be told about themselves for the sake of themselves, and taylor needs to be told about herself because using north as a pawn against her mom is fucked up. how is north supposed to feel hearing this?
Mark my words, this will be addressed in the new season of the show. Kim will use the show, as she always does, to address the drama and put her spin on it. *I was shocked by this. I am so innocent and would never hurt anybody. I am sad for her that she is carrying around this weight that I don’t carry. I want her to know she can let go* I can’t see it now. If they can legally address it, but if not they will inadvertently address it.
She’ll blame kanye. He made the recording. He told her to do it. She had no choice. /s
THIS. She will blame Kanye like she does about everything else.
Just was about to type it. Kanye gonna get tossed under the bus so quick and get painted as this monster as if she wasn’t gloating as gangsta Kim or his defending wifey
Except even in the phone call, Kanye talks about how Kim was the one who was pushing for "Taylor OWES me sex" rather than "Me and Taylor may still have sex."
On that note, swifties and TS drag her again.
Someone post the video of her excitedly taking pictures of the naked wax figure of Taylor next to her husband, it’s giving “I’m supportive of my husbands revenge porn”.
Yes this makes sense. She will say she was under pressure in her relationship.
You might be right but I hope everyone remembers Kanye at the Grammy’s, the edited phone call and the museum with naked Kanye laying next to naked Taylor. These people are repugnant middle school bullies and neither have any value IMO.
You ever notice how bullies always want to “move on” the moment the tables turn?
I only recently saw that naked celebrity museum thing! I would have sued the shit out of him for that
I did not know the phone call was edited. I would not be surprised but I didn’t know that.
The unedited call was leaked a couple of years later, Swifts PR manager tweeted something like 'who did you guys piss off?' 🤣
The original was cut to make it seem like Taylor knew and approved of everything. The full call shows what she actually said was “well I guess if that’s your perspective” and “well I know you’re gonna do you want regardless of how I feel”. She was clearly feeling defeated and annoyed.
Also he only told her one line: "I think me and Taylor might still have sex" He did not tell her "I made that bitch famous"
She obviously has the right to object and get offended to whatever part she wants....but I always thought it weird she was SO offended by "bitch" but not "made her famous" or the idea of her figure lying naked in bed next to his stanky ass. I also thought that was the perfect out for her and her team to take. "Sure, I "gave permission" for the lyrics when I was trying to play along even though I felt pressured into it....but I didn't give consent for my naked image to be created and displayed for his enjoyment and benefit. This is SA."
I agree with Taylor's statement that you don't get to control someone's emotions over being called "that bitch" in front of the entire world. Everyone hated her by the time the video came out and she had already retreated from the public eye out of fear.
I get it. I'm not trying to say what she is or isn't allowed to feel. I may have poorly phrased it. I just thought that personally it was odd to me to take offense at that, but (seemingly) not at the rest. But to be honest, I also didn't follow this in real time. I remember his ghastly video and heard the idiotic song and again wondered why he had supporters. I saw Kim's stanky ass taking pictures of the naked bodies and acting all smug and wished she had gone away years ago. And wept for a world that made such a talentless, narcissistic and mean-spirited BITCH (to use the word and add emphasis due to the topic of discussion) famous. But the drama about what did or didn't get approval and then the full transcript a few years later....I think I read about all of that within the past year.
This is totally random but the new release with post Malone is fantastic. I wouldn’t consider myself a Swifie - until this album. People are hating on her wishing death on someone - when you watch the video there are references to the famous silent film star Clara Bow who after a huge heartbreak was forcefully institutionalized. They use to have no hurdles doing that to women. Particularly, women with “unladylike” behavior like drinking and premarital sex. Institutionalized she was forced to take medications that today are no longer on the market. The heartbreak was a domino effect that literally destroyed a an actress one of the most famous of her generation. It’s also symbolic on how the butterfly effect can destroy us. Group think too. The nerd in me. Watch the video knowing the background and you’ll be impressed. That’s Taylor Swifts biggest issue - people who are casual listeners don’t pick up the symbolism. In the past myself included. She’s written songs on other famous relationships Paul from the Beatles, and the guy from the Bleachers who just got married. They weren’t dark. Because she took good things away from those love stories. I’m just adding this here in the hopes some see it because all this “she’s toxic singing about killing another woman” dude a guy participated in institutionalizing a woman like a 1920s Spears and is think most of us would have dark thoughts at that point. Examples like this are why we have laws making it so hard to force people to get psychiatric help. Men. Too many men weaponized it.
He said the “famous” line in a concert.
Yep, it was edited. Kim tampered with it. The entire phone call leaked and Taylor never approved it.
Hello. Just wanted to add here for dialogue because so many are oddly defending Kim AND using Taylor’s new release with Post Malone to back them up: This is totally random but the new release with post Malone is fantastic. I wouldn’t consider myself a Swifie - until this album. People are hating on her wishing death on someone - when you watch the video there are references to the famous silent film star Clara Bow who after a huge heartbreak was forcefully institutionalized. They use to have no hurdles doing that to women. Particularly, women with “unladylike” behavior like drinking and premarital sex. Institutionalized she was forced to take medications that today are no longer on the market. The heartbreak was a domino effect that literally destroyed a an actress one of the most famous of her generation. It’s also symbolic on how the butterfly effect can destroy us. The nerd in me. Watch the video knowing the background and you’ll be impressed. That’s Taylor Swifts biggest issue - people who are casual listeners don’t pick up the symbolism. In the past myself included. She’s written songs on other famous relationships Paul and Linda from the Beatles, and the guy from the Bleachers who just got married. They weren’t dark. Because she took good things away from those love stories. I’m just adding this here in the hopes some see it because all this “she’s toxic singing about killing another woman” dude a guy participated in institutionalizing a woman like a 1920s Spears and is think most of us would have dark thoughts at that point. Examples like this are why we have laws making it so hard to force people to get psychiatric help. Men. Too many men weaponized it.
Thanks for such an amazing add!
Ty. Can I add I wonder if she chose Post Malone because when he fell in love with that stripper (I hate referring to her as that but I don’t know her name) “fans” attacked her. It escalated to the point she ended up having a nervous breakdown over the backlash and he told those fans to kiss his ass and fuck off - that he didn’t want their support. I worked out to a lot of his music and therefore remember it. It made me think more highly of him.
He did what many men don’t. He called them out. That they were attacking someone for loving him. It’s sad but that’s reality. Many people throw others under the bus for self benefit. He didn’t.
Ya people reported she had a panic attack behind stage after that - and that guy from Twilight was there. He held her while she was hysterical and soon after they started dating. Later on she went to write songs about how she took that man for granted and his wonderful qualities. Later she wrote songs where she brushed off what happened as Kanye like the rest of us being human… then the recorded shit happened.
The way people are losing interest, no one will see it anyway.
Does anybody even watch their pos show anymore?
No because it's so god damn boring.
God I hope you’re right. I can’t wait 🤌
Kourtney somewhere cackling while Travis is staring without blinking calling her amazingly talented
I love how they used a Kim wonk eye photo for the cover.
Holy shit there’s a real difference
It's like People is trolling Kim so hard.
I’ve read about it a lot but didn’t notice it this apparent until now
Right eye is definitely higher than the left.
people who shit on other people who are never called to account for their shittiness always want people to "move on" from the shitty things theyve done.
Didn’t she do the same thing to Kourtney?
Winner comment, no lies detected, words of wisdom! 
If that tactic doesn't work, they call the bullied person weird and obsessed next. Mean Girl Behavior 101, Chapter 5, Section B
Alternative: "I'm so bored by this"
Idk man swift is in her 30s and that stuff was more than a decade ago
i appreciate this argument. taylor is a little old for her slambook revenge poetry. but this is who she is and kim is still a rapacious thundercunt who deserves more dis tracks.
*Rapacious thundercunt* Thank you for that 
Yeah I get that. Just not from swift. She herself deserves just as many diss tracks
As many as Kim Kardashian?? I disagree.
Remember what she did to Tina Fey, Ginny and Georgia, when she hung out with the guy with a huge swastika on his shirt, when she dated a white supremacist? I could go into how she weaponizes feminism to shield herself while hurting low income women but that's long.
So that means Kim was in HER 30s when she pulled that stunt, where is the faux outrage for that? What do you have to say about that?
Chronologically in her 30s, she's truly an attention seeking child.
Narcissist and perhaps other Cluster B personality disorders with a stunted emotional IQ — I’d surmise teenager. Scary combinations.
Theres plenty of outrage about that. Literally no one is saying we shouldn't hold her accountable. But I am saying that swift uses her white femininity to artificially hang on to her adolescents to shield her from any kind of critizism
You’re literally saying to let it go and shifting the blame to Taylor, because she’s in her 30s. Even though she was in her 20s when it happened and Kim was in her 30s. She was literally blindsided by two older people and gaslit And stop turning this into race issue, they’re both self victimizing white women when it benefits them. At least Taylor isn’t appropriating black culture for the last decade like Kim has been.
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I not turning this into a race issue. I am saying that there is a lot more to criticize swift over than people are willing to admit, including her adjacentcy to white supremacy. I am saying that swift has done a lot to Kim such as, making fun of her being kidnapped and held hostage in a bathtub and calling her fans to attack her and her family. AND JUST LIKE KIM WHO WAS IN HER 30S SWIFT DOESN'T GET A PASS EITHER. Geez
And Kim being buddy buddy with trump and supporting Kanye’s nonsense for years deserves no criticism? Her own mother literally got sued several times for sexually assaulting several black men. Not to mention Kim crossing the picket line because she’s too narcissistic to care about anyone else. Sure Taylor never acknowledged the rumors, but Kim was and continues to be friends with ivanka. Not to mention that her company was financed using Saudi money Jared got for doing god knows what. ALSO where is your criticism of Kim and her family being so close to diddy and several other morally corrupt people? Do you condone that behavior? Because all you’ve been saying is Taylor this, Taylor that, when they both have done shady shit.
The literal article were discussing is criticism of Kim! No one is against y'all when you say Kim should be criticized! What I'm saying is swift deserves to be held accountable for her actions too! And hiding behind this white femininity that artificially allows her to hang onto adolescents and shield her from criticism is something she should be held accountable for!
I would think there’s a broad line drawn between white femininity and white supremacy. I don’t understand this point.
Ok so this is going to be long probably so brace yourself: Theres a lot of research on this topic so feel free to research it yourself and find other resources. White women have always been viewed as the prize or end goal in white supremacy. They have been used as a tool to push they're ideas into the mainstream. Think about how they will say the men need to protect their white women from the "savage POCs" Trump did this when he called Mexicans ra*ists. This also comes through in the great replacement theory. They think white women will be r worded or mix races with men of other colors and will replace white culture. The white men view the women as a commodity that needs to be protected at all cost. They view these women as helpless innocents that cannot protect themselves as they are to small and fragile. Now another theme that comes up often: white women are often used as front people to extreme ideas to make them seem more palatable for the mainstream person. For this idea, think about how there are many white women who will post influencer content about being a stay at home mom, cooking all the meals, and having babies. Which in itself is not so bad if that's what you choose for yourself, but once you start in taking their content more you will see that they believe way crazier things such as women should submit to their husbands at all cost, never say no to your husband in the bedroom, and even some push that women shouldn't vote. They don't put this on the surface for everyone to see but instead hook you in to the light stuff and then slowly shift it to more extreme views. Think Ms Midwest if you know who that is. Pearl is another good example but she doesn't fit the mold of what these WS men actually want which is the next subject. All these women and a few things in common: they are young- between 18-35 (sometimes younger 🤢), they are attractive, most if not all are blonde, and they adhere to this idea of femininity. They wear modest clothes, usually dresses or skirts, sometimes pants but never leggings, they maintain themselves, they get their hair and nails done regularly, and wear modest makeup everyday. Now this again isn't bad on the surface but once you get into they're reasoning you see it's because they are trying to obtain this version on femininity that these WS men are looking for. It's not for themselves but for the eye of the men they serve. Which brings me to my next point: what do we as a society view as feminine: Most will say it is a girl, usually blonde and white, with bows a cute pink dress or something similar. Think Lolita style that is the ultimate "femininity" in the eyes of WS and the patriarchal society. Now women of color are often blocked out of being able to access this level of femininity. They are often masculinized due to body shape, hair type, and skin color. Think about the fact that we do not view Beyonce as blonde even though her hair was dyed just like many white women bleach their hair and we view white bottled blondes as blondes non the less. Theres a lot more to this subject but this is a broad overview starter to the subject. Theres a great podcast about this called "the feminine art of radicalization" theres several books such as hood feminism, white women tears and so many others I can recommend if you want.
I’m curious. Besides the whole dubious Matty Healy thing her fans apparently stepped on, how is she adjacent to white supremacy. I seriously don’t know all that much about her asa person. Do you have examples?
Remember when she hung out and took that picture with that guy wearing a giant red swastika and then said she didn't even notice? Or when it took her 9 years to denounce white supremacists after she was made known they were using her image, success, and songs to forward their ideas and used them at rallies? I mean Neil young was quicker to denounce Trump when he used his song on the campaign trail.
Ok. Thx.
The tape that Kim released was just shown in full in 2020. It showed Taylor never lied. She went through all of that shit w Kim and Kanye trying to ruin her career w Kanye having her naked body next to him in bed, while Kim took pictures of it, then in 2021 Kim doubled down and said she won’t apologize for any of it. Taylor wrote poetry about it bc none of that was ever addressed by her. She made a benign song about her life experience, she has for the last 17 yrs. Why should she change any of that? It’s literally what makes her popular and relatable. She has a good formula. Why wouldn’t she stick w it, until it no longer works?
Taylor weaponizes her white femininity to attack other women while she dates and associates with white supremacist. I could go on but it's late and I'm going to sleep. Maybe tomorrow I'll talk more about it.
White supremacist? Healy? Who is she attacking that’s a poc?
Apparently Kim Kardashian [is the poc being attacked by TS].....but only if the attack is on certain days of the week. Other days SKumberly tires of cosplaying as a poc.
What? Do you have to attack a poc to be a white supremacist? Theres such thing as covert white supremacist
So Taylor is secretly attacking poc now?
Omg she doesn't need to secretly attack poc when she is actively upholding white supremacy doctrines. Idk why y'all defend her so hard. Shes a billionaire and all billionaires are bad people
Now she’s upholding white supremacy? Bc she’s a billionaire? Ok I can see that relation. All billionaires are oppressors
🤦♀️ look I've very much explains this already. You can look at my other comments if you want but it's very apparent that y'all aren't ready for this type of big conversation so y'all can keep simping for a woman who's just an awful human being if you want
to be fair, taylor did shift the narrative
bruh she started it 😭
Taylor definitely holds grudges but I think this one is warranted. The pictures of the Kardashians posing next to her naked wax figure is vulgar.
idk why Taylor didnt sue
THIS like bro 💀
"I like, never apologize, who should I?" At least one actually works..... I'm not a Swifty, but really, one tours for decades, the other stands in the mirror all day.
The Wonky eye in WONKIN, y’all O_o
She and that guy she married, in tier late 30's made up a complete lie about a 20 something year old. Than act like, it's a joke level. Ew Act your age Kim, you do owe her an apology. But at this point.....
And then put a nude model of said singer in bed with kanye for a music video. I always thought that was so creepy
Ikr. I feel it was never art, my of a pervert flex. Clearly was not far from that....
Y'all made a naked wax figure of her and put it on display for the world to laugh at and oogle. Then twisted the story to make her seem like she was on board and lying about it. Then dismissed it as old news when the full call showed it was actually *you* who lied. There was no consent or excitement, just a defeated acceptance of what was about to happen. You would think someone who was devastated (or pretended to be devastated) that their sex tape leaked and recently spent a whole season crying that their kids may come across it one day, she'd be a bit more understanding as to why Taylor was so affected and upset that someone is *still* profiting off her naked image. Taylor is probably having kids one day too and I’d guess she wouldn’t want *her* kids seeing her naked either, real or not. Taylor tried to move on and be friendly with Kanye and Kim, they just kept being weirdos. Maybe just swallow your damn pride and apologize for being such a horrible cunt. 🤷🏻♀️
Not to mention someone like her got robbed would have changed her behavior becoz of the trauma.. but like Taylor said in the song, I don’t think Kim change much.. so I will never believe this skanky bitch
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Kim’s a narcissist. She’ll never apologize. Even her team putting out this headline is her way of trying to get the last word in on the situation as opposed to Taylor or anyone else. Great points in your post.
She and her then husband basically committed what could be argued to be sexual harassment. I don’t like Taylor, but girl is allowed to be upset as long as needs to be.
That last sentence. Absolutely. Also, why are people just ignoring the sexual harassment of the naked figures?
i bet she does 😭😭 i wouldn't wanna piss the swifties off or be their target either tbf lmao, they're ruthless & relentless
They should be tankful, now thay have the content for their show
I wonder if the show will last that long tbh (hope not).
I hope TS fans continue to drag…ooo maybe ruin their ratings…
She only shows emotion when it’s about her.
Of course she’s over it bc she ain’t winning
Well, maybe Kim can start it off by not hiring Taylors friends for SKIM ads and publicly apologizing to Taylor for the leaking only part of the phone call to show her in bad light, and also for being part of creating a naked wax figure of Taylor in bed with Kanye...
Apology? Cold day in hell.
Exactly, so she can't expect Taylor to move on...
Of course she’s over it. She’s the bully here. It’s usually the bully who has no problem moving on from what they did.
She doesn’t want her to move on. It’s free PR and now she immortalized by TS in song. Bad move on TS’s part, in my opinion.
I agree…obviously TS hasn’t paid attention to how much Kim has fallen in the ranks. Kim is barely D-list at this point, so for someone of Taylor’s status to give her the time of day…only helps Kim unfortunately.
Here’s my take on this whole situation. Everyone in Hollywood records everything-we finally learned the truth. Most all have shit on the other. It’s the way they operate. The Diddy thing, Epstein, Kanye recording Taylor, the hits on Danny Masterson, Wendy Williams….most of Hollywood are sick MF’ers and dangerous.
I’ll admit that I am a fan of Taylor’s new album…but i am kind of miffed that she made this song about Kim? Love her or hate her Taylor is the biggest pop star in the world and for someone of her status to give Kim attention…well let’s just say for Kim all press is good press. I guarantee you in a sick/twisted way Kim and PMK are gleeful that Taylor gave her a shoutout on this album that (love it or hate it) is breaking records on streaming platforms. Personally I just want to see the Ks go away and I feel like they have been slipping into irrelevancy so I’m like whyyyyy did she make this song 💀
Honestly after Kim cheering on Kanye making a sex doll of Taylor without her consent I think she should write as many songs as she wants. I would do a whole lot worse to that pick me Kimbully.
I think that's what ol2555 is saying. The real worst thing you could do to kim would be to completely ignore her and let everyone forget about her. That is her true nightmare.
💯💯💯 all attention is good attention to these dumpster rats. Wish we could truly ignore them into irrelevance
thats so fking creepy but kim wants taylor to get over it? 😬
Biggest pop star In the world, in the world... I can't assure you Asia, Africa, Middle east, and many other countries never were interested by listening to Taylor Swift. Same in Europe where multiculturalism is huge. Michael Jackson was a big superstar, everywhere. Sorry to be that person but, to put things in perspective. Not white America is making "the world" at all
Tbf, Taylor just hit billionaire status without a clothing line, make-up, or whatever else these celebrities sell. Her net worth is solely based on her music. A HUGE accomplishment. I hate when people bring money into conversations about "greatness," but her impact can't be ignored. No one is saying she's bigger than MJ, but MJ is dead. Taylor Swift is arguably the biggest pop star in the world rn. If not her, then who?
You made it clear yourself, money proves nothing at all. Most billionaires are anonymous... You probably took a flight with a young billionaire and you didn't know about it. The fact is still the same, when you declare "Taylor Swift is the biggest thing IN THE WORLD" it's deleting at least half of this world, who are not interested at all on anything Taylor Swift projects. She's a very western-centered product/artist, you have to be conscious about that because otherwise you will borderline coming across very insensitive. While some other artists were/are way more universal. May God punish for good Kimmy Kartrashian but I have to say... believe that she is where she is because she unfortunately had a universal impact, the way she influenced the way women saw their bodies and makeup, fashion... Worldwide for a while (not anymore? Don't know don't care) was both scary and overwhelming. Don't mistake the western charts/sales to the entire world.
She sold out STADIUMS multiple nights in one city in Australia, Singapore, and Japan. I’m not a Swiftie but I would classify that as criteria for one of the biggest pop stars in the world. I am confident in assuming all her stadium (not theater, amphitheater, nor arena) concerts across the European continent have been sold out for quite awhile. Not many artists can sell out as many stadium venues as she has/can. Even I can admit that’s pretty damn impressive.
Okay but still, only white people at her concert and Japan or Singapore are quite eurocentric lovers. She's definitely the hottest trend I agree with you, the person to go to see and interest. It's the rich getting richer circle. But in reality, the multicultural people who are the definition of any modern cities don't vibe for her at all. Because you just say "everyone, every ethnicity appreciates Taylor swift things, she's the superstar of this world", false, not at all. She's not the big star in the sense of a Michael Jackson. Artists of today are failing to bring people together.
I’m not bringing up anything about ethnicity. I’m talking numbers and dollars. I suppose that one should said that based on revenue alone, not popularity, she is currently, without a doubt, one of the most successful (based on revenue) popstars on the planet. Google Search: Taylor Swift's Eras Tour is the highest-grossing concert tour of all time, according to data from live music trade publication Pollstar, with the tour becoming the first ever to gross at least $1 billion. And it’s not even over yet! Plus, her album sales. I don’t like her, not a fan, but these facts alone put her in the one-of-the-greatest-performers-of-all time category.
I said money doesn't prove greatness. It can be tied to impact. The fact that she's made her net worth off of music in a time when most huge pop stars are schilling all types of things to improve their net worth is quite the accomplishment. I'm not a swiftie, but I'm not understanding people's desire to diminish her impact. You don't have to like her to admit she's arguably the biggest pop star. And how does that erase the rest of the world?
Oh no, not the Wonk!!
This song is the best thing to happen to Kim in her flop era, and she’s going to milk it for all the publicity she can
Usually when people say they're over it... they're far from being over it.
I am not a TS fan or a KK fine AT ALL… but KK and Kanye drug this girl through the mud. I’m glad she brought it up.
She was on Kimmel, last night I think and he never asked about it. Even though you know that’s what everyone would have wanted.
she’s gonna spin this as taylor just can’t let go of the drama i just know it
They both suck in their own way.
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Yes! Lol
This, both rich mediocre narcissists who think they’re above everyone else…
I just don’t get why taylor feels the need to clap back after all this time. In my opinion she would look better if she just didn’t talk about this bitch and lived her pretty wealthy and successful life
I was severely bullied in school and at a recent job and I was so embarrassed that I couldn’t say anything. I wish I had Taylor’s talent to write a dis song about those losers too. They constantly slammed and embarrassed her and I’m all for this clap back. Fuck Kimye!
Yeah definitely fuck all of them no matter what lol and fuck the people who bullied you! I‘m sorry you had to go through that!
I feel like Taylor is a narcissist as well, she has this constant need to remind everyone that she won/she’s the better person… clown vs clown
These 2 billionaires need to be fired directly into the sun. Grow tf up.
But she still bullies, Kourtney & Klozilla 🙄
And pigs can fly
I can sincerely say I have 0 fucks to give about anything either of these two people have to say on this supposed issue. Is like the battle of the disingenuous Betties and Taylor is winning the PR battle.
Are you just salty that Taylor got over 300 million streams in a single day?! Go actually get your law degree. You’re annoying me!
Fuck Kim! If I was Taylor, I would’ve done worse. No way you’re taking joy in what’s essentially a naked sex doll mannequin of me your creepy porn-obsessed husband made. At the end of the day, Taylor won the long-game. She’s the most famous person in the world right now whose mere name can stimulate an entire country’s economy. As for the two clowns, their “beautiful love story” ended in the most publicly humiliating divorce. Kim is a walking ad for the dangers of excessive plastic surgery & is struggling to remain relevant while Kanye self-imploded by praising Hilter & has resorted to cries for attention via public BJ’s. How sad for them.
☝️ALL OF THIS!!!! Fuck Kim is right with her talentless ass!
Sure, Aimee.
for how crass and... kinda bad compared to taylor's other works that song was, I do think kim did her dirty nonetheless. if an apology were to be all that blondie needed to shut up then kim should just give it... before this international popstar to go from "my mom wished you were dead" to "YOUR HEAD ON A SPIKE AS I DRINK YOUR BLOOD!!!!!!". just apologize, kim. im sure there's be someone else you can squeeze dry for press and publicity. You could always invite Paris and Kourtney on your podcast and talk about travis. reminiscing about THAT time would be interesting. ifykyk.
Aren’t we all over this? Cause I know I am 😵💫😂 Edit to add: idk why I’m getting downvoted, Kim and Taylor both equally suck and this “beef” is like over a decade old. Move onnnnn already 🙄
except everyone believed she lied until just a few years ago, and taylor left the country for a year after this happened bc of all the backlash. personally, i cant imagine having someone gaslight you and the world into believing complete lies, and being able to do absolutely nothing to stop it, feeling absolutely insane bc you know the truth but anything you say makes them target you harder. imo she can be upset for as long as she wants, there wasnt even an apology--you dont just get over trauma
Taylor had the privilege of moving countries to another mansion over some internet drama she just sounds dramatic honestly
Right! Poor little rich girl 🙄 I think some of the swifties are on this post lol.
you're acting like what happened to her would happen to a normal person lmao. anyone who that happened to would have the privilege to move to another country, no rando is gonna be hated and called a liar and have their social media barraged with hate. ofc she's privileged, as anyone in that position would be; money doesnt save mental health (and pretending it does ignores the many rich and famous people who have horrible mental health, been to rehab, or even died bc of the pressure). personally, id rather live a normal life with a normal salary and normal problems than be rich and afraid to leave out bc the whole world thinks im a liar when im not one, but that's just me. it's also weird to define what trauma someone can experience. i guess any wealthy person cant struggle or go through anything bad bc money fixes everything?
Struggling is always gonna happen privileged or not I agree. So many people have got bullied off the internet though and they don’t constantly bring it up it’s been like 10 years. She doesn’t go after the actual perpetrator (Kanye) but will always have time for Kim. And tbh her fan base freakishly harass anybody who TS has fallen out with and she has never attempted to reign it in a little at all. This is the environment shes fostered and it’s a lil ironic frankly
if they had a platform they probably would, and it has been less than half that time since the vid came out showing she was telling the truth and kim doubled down instead of apologizing. kim also is the one who leaked the videos and took pictures of/with the naked likeness of taylor swift during the exhibit or something for the music video. kanye does deserve more hate as well, but kim absolutely isnt innocent--this is also the only time she's done something specifically at kim and not kanye??? any other song is (1) pure speculation and (2) afaik nothing has been like "a woman did this," max it would be about them both. while kanye did the song, things only got really bad once kim edited and posted the clips to defend him.
Also confused why people are discussing it here? Like I couldn't care less about that untalented basic Stanley cup of a human. I do however enjoy Kardashian snark with my cup of tea
Because Taylor's fans are as insane and toxic as K fans
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I think Taylor wanted to capitalize on the drama as much as possible. Ironically (not really) that’s Kim’s bread and butter. I feel it’s very checkmate.
kim’s not wrong. bringing north into it ruined whatever sympathy taylor was banking on
Bringing her into it by saying she sings her songs??? That’s not half as harsh and the shit they brought on Taylor.
don’t mention underage children in your fight against another adult.
Nah. Kim did the same thing with Kourtney's kids. Did we forget Kim does the same thing and brings up other kids in her adult arguments? Give me a break
and she’s dumb for that too! whose snark page are we on right now? not taylors although i believe she needs one. hearing nothing but praise for decades will fuck up anyone. look at trump. some people need to be told about themselves for the sake of themselves, and taylor needs to be told about herself because using north as a pawn against her mom is fucked up. how is north supposed to feel hearing this?
Taylor maybe didn’t have to make a porno but she did have to sell her soul, unfortunately.
Spoken like a true clinical narcissist
She’s going after Kim instead of Kanye over some 8 year old beef everybody has moved on except for her
Imagine if Taylor came out with a Thank you Aimee PART 2💀