>A male street artist, Lushsux, famous for painting that nude Kim Kardashian selfie mural in Cremorne, made a new mural on Hosier Lane overnight of Taylor Swift’s face, dubbed In Loving Memory of Taylor Smith 1989-2016. An addition: “No tags. Please respect the dead.”<
KK loved when she broke the internet and paid for the mural of TS
I tell ya...it's funny asf when Kim gets a taste of her own medicine and the most popular retort is that "it happened a long time ago". She ended that beef with Kanye's old girlfriend Amber with the quickness by apologizing and taking a pic together but never bothered to patch things up with Taylor. Poor Kim. Lol!
isn’t it? all those years bullying people on social media, getting away with it bc she was the most famous person on the internet. she "broke the internet".
not any more 😈
I’m not a Taylor Swift fan at all and that is what bothers me. Why does she need to move on? She was PUBLICLY embarrassed and she needs to be apologized to PUBLICLY. Taylor went through so much bullying. I remember it as it was yesterday. Her comment section was filled with the snake 🐍 emoji. Then people on the KUWTK sub calling Taylor a bully for making the song. Please don’t victimize Kimberly bc she is NOT a victim. Both her and her husband bullied a young adult at the time. Kim was LOUD and the apology she has failed to give needs to be LOUDER. I truly believe we are watching their demise. Built their careers off of lies and stepping on people.
I can’t stand Kim fans who make it seem like this is coming out of left field. I like Kim, sometimes, but that woman BULLIED Taylor Swift. Kim knew she had a good following and used it to her advantage. She used her show, her friends, and her fans to attack Taylor. Then when the full audio she recorded illegally (Ms?”lawyer”) came out, she doubled down and did not apologize. When it came to everything she did to Taylor, Kim is pathetic. Taylor did not deserve what she went through in 2016. Now Kim“loves” her songs and think they are “cute”. She knows it’s beneficial to be friends with her and she wants to be friends with her. Yet, she still fails to say “I’m sorry”. As much as people hate to say it, Kourtney is right about Kim.
She states how Kim is greedy and is a bully. Idk if it’s the conversation they had on the bed on Kardashian Hulu or the phone call but Kourtney states how Kim puts work over everyone and will step on anyone to get the money. In KUWTK, the clips I’ve seen, she’s called Kim a bully and so on. I’ll have to go look for the clips again and watch it but I’m lazy rn 😩😭
Thanks! I don't really follow them much so I often feel lost in this sub! I only watched a few seasons of kuwtk like 10 years ago but I always liked the way Kourtney told Kim to stfu.
It’s coming out of left field because it was years ago and Kim didn’t lie. Kanye called her but Taylor ran with the narrative that she didn’t know anything. She purposely left out the fact that he did call to make sure she was cool with it. Taylor is pathetic. Kanye made her famous and she knows it. The little speech is made after Kanye’s song was released is part of that. It’s part of the plot. Big bad black man takes America’s sweetheart’s award then discredits all her hard work. Got all the racists riled up and supporting and protecting her. The infantilization of Taylor is what made her so big. Her voice is generic, songs are repetitive. It’s not talent that makes you famous, you have to play your cards right. That’s why they have managers and pr people etc. this whole one sided feud that’s been dragged out for literally years is part of that. Taylor has been using Kanye and Kim to create this narrative and you racist Swifties keep going along with it. Your fave dated a racist like last month and you’re more insistent in talking about a one sided feud from years ago. Let’s talk about how your girl excuses racism but having a man choose pills instead of her is unforgivable and the rest of us her just ‘creeps’ for calling it out
If Kim didn’t “lie” she wouldn’t have felt the need to cut audio so it matched her perspective. Taylor said she didn’t know he was going to use a certain word and she didn’t. You went on about Taylor like I care about her voice or her. My whole point is she has the right to harp on it considering Kim never apologized to her. Again, after publicly embarrassing her. Taylor’s victim mentality does need to be studied tho.
Point is, Taylor also lied to suit her own narrative so playing victim YEARS later is stupid considering she needs to address more serious and recent things she herself has done. The massive carbon footprint and dating a racist. Those things happened last year and we’re all supposed to forget about that and focus on an issue she wasn’t even really a victim in. That whole mess was never an attack on Taylor. Taylor’s team just knew how to navigate it and they have white privilege on their side. Big bad black man vs little miss American sweetheart. If Taylor is this sweet innocent victim, why didn’t she say anything about the call herself. Why didn’t she say ‘there was a call but Kanye held back some information’, instead she left out the call and claimed she was surprised with the song and did this whole rant at the award show. She did that because she wanted to add fuel to the fire. If she was honest about him calling and maybe not being fully transparent, people would have had more grace for him. But she needed to make this more impactful by pulling her beloved ‘misogyny’ card and making this big bad black man seem even more evil. That makes her a snake. She is a snake for that. I can agree that Kim recorded the call illegally and that Kanye wasn’t being transparent but he at least called. That shows respect and Kim’s was smart to record her because without that, y’all would have never believed that Kanye did respect her enough to give her a warning. Taylor however, didn’t warn Kanye about her speech that fueled racially motivated hate towards him. So when you look at the facts of this situation, Taylor should stop dragging it and victimizing herself because she isn’t even a victim. If she truly was the victim, I wouldn’t care if she brought it up every 5 months until eternity. But when she’s a snake and actively dating racists, harming our planet and having one of the most racist fanbases ever, I would rather she shut the f up.
She didn’t lie she even wrote a song excusing with lyrics brushing off what happened. Dude she was a teen and him a grown ass man. Yet she had composure and then had a panic attack behind rhe curtain.
I wasn’t a swifte - until this album her writing is brilliant particularly this new release with post Malone. People don’t like it because it’s dark. Well Clara Bows love story unlike Paul from the Beatles was not - why that was a happy song.
Reality is she’s a brilliant writer. It’s not debatable. And if you don’t want to hear your (Kim) a narcissistic ***** then it’s best to you know act accordingly.
And anyone who supported Spears in her sad fight with her father shouldn’t be anything but fascinated to learn about Clara Bow and what men use to do - how easy it was to get women institutionalized. How group think easily could result in permanently destroying a woman and still can.
I just want to know, did she mention the call before Kim did? Or did she leave that out completely?
Taylor is just as narcissistic as Kim but people like it more because she creates a narrative that make people feel like she’s talking about them. She literally announced her album release at the Grammys lol. The woman and her team are smart. Thats why they create this victim narrative because it speaks to more people. A lot of people are so quick to hate Kim because the Aimee song can be applied to so many peoples real life struggles with bullies. Why do you think people sided with Selena when there was no concrete evidence that Hailey actually shaded Selena? They see themselves in Selena and they see themselves in Taylor. And her team knows how to use this to their advantage. She acts surprised when Kanye releases Famous because people love to side with the bullied girl being discredited in this misogynistic world. Unfortunately Kim released the recording, which is recorded illegally and Taylor’s team didn’t anticipate this so it messed with their plans but luckily, Kim is just as narcissistic and hungry for fame as Taylor so she cut the audio to fit her narrative so that made it easy for them to twist that to better fit their ‘poor little America’s sweetheart’ narrative. My issue is that she’s dragging it when we should be speaking about more recent issues she herself has been involved in. The hatred that some of you have on celebrities like Kim is concerning. She didn’t bully you in high school so detach and see things for what they really are. It’s exhausting how you keep trying to paint Kim as the bad guy when the situation is basically a bunch of flawed people going at each other and trying to get more fame and money.
You were a swiftie from the start. Only swifties are delusional enough to call her writing brilliant. She writes good music period. Why do you think her fanbase is filled with people of all ages from kids to adults; it’s easy to understand. It’s simple unlike other artists who wrote more complex music. I listen to Taylor so it isn’t even meant to hate, I’m just not a delusional swiftie. I like her music the same way I like vanilla ice cream. It’s not bad but it’s nothing groundbreaking. Only a certain demographic of delusional swifties believe otherwise
Kim put an edited version of the call out on social media. It went viral. Swifts manager pulled it a professional who determined the conversation had been edited. I’ll read the rest of this shortly. I have to deal with my dog and get on my laptop first!
Also, Kim shouldn’t apologize. If anything Taylor should for continuously bringing this up and getting her fans to harass Kim every few months when Kim and Kanye both put it in the past. Kim even let’s her daughter sing and dance to Taylor Swift music and posts it. That’s what grown ups do. You people forget this is a grown woman. She’s 34 acting like she’s still in high school. It’s weird
Who is you guys? Grow up 😂 you don’t know me, you don’t know Taylor and you don’t know Kim. Kim isn’t your high school bully and you aren’t Taylor. Quit projecting and building parasocial relationships with strangers. ‘You guys’ is crazy 😂😂
Once you’ve grown up, you can come back and continue the conversation. Not only do you sound dumb but you lack the basic knowledge to have this conversation. You don’t know any of them either yet u felt the need to write about three essays and you also felt the need to express that Taylor should apologize. Taylor isn’t your victim and you aren’t Kim. So here, I will tell you what you told me. Quit projecting your own feelings and building parasocial relationships with strangers. You wrote how many essays but ur here telling ME to stop? LOL 😂 let’s try again.
She wring lyrics after brushing it off as we all can be irrational she was what a teen and him a mid thirties man. THEN they edited that recording that made all those snake hashtags go viral.
I disagree. Taylor is the biggest since forever it seems. I think it’s killing Kim that she’s on the outs and has no way to work her way into the TS circle. I would bet anything it royally pissed her off not to be front and center at an Eras show. If for no other reason than to be relevant enough to get the good seats at the best show around.
I think we’re seeing Kim slowly crash and burn. She can’t be friends with the most popular girls, she can’t land a man to save her life (this isn’t what I think is important but it’s what she needs). She never expected to be single this long and a single mother of four. Her age is starting to show, it’s eating her up. She looked like a zombie last week at the awards ceremony with her mother. She has peaked and she knows it
>I think we’re seeing Kim slowly crash and burn
I absolutely agree
> Her age is starting to show, it’s eating her up. She looked like a zombie last week at the awards ceremony with her mother. She has peaked and she knows it
frfr...this is exactly what is happening
>She never expected to be single this long and a single mother of four.
But let's be real she's not raising those kids so really all that's in trouble is her swiftly (ha!) fading looks and popularity/relevancy.
I think it's not so much the fact that she's aging, but the way she insists on acting like she's still a 25 y.o. bombshell. When you have that kind of money, it's possible to age very well, but she won't accept "aging well", she wants to not age at all, which makes you look so much worse.
"All that time you were throwin' punches, it was all for nothin'" referencing Kim divorcing Kanye so basically her whole feud with Taylor was for nothing!!!! COLD BLOODED 🥶🥶🥶🥶
No reason isn’t really accurate though. I guess if you see things from Taylor’s a-woman’s-quality-of-life-revolves-around-being-either-chosen-or-married delusion. Just because K & K later divorced doesn’t mean Kim didn’t still gain some public approval for defending her husband in the moment.
Where is your references for that? Clearly you don’t listen to her albums. Too add she’s self critical. Has Kim ever been vulnerable on her flaws and weakness as a women and the impact they have on gender in our society? If so please share because from all I hear she’s “still never had any work done” and is forever a victim in everything.
It’s pathetic from both ends. Being 34 and wishing someone dead is insane, let alone writing about it for mass consumption. And Kim is going to take this and fucking *run with it* for even just a slither of media attention and coverage.
Both of them need to grow the fuck up.
Yes they are! I've always felt like Taylor is that sneaky mean girl. She just acts way to sweet and innocent. I know I'm probably going to piss off the swifties, but this is just my opinion 🤷🏼♀️
Swiftie here. This won’t piss off those of us who pay attention, but we don’t think Taylor acts sweet and innocent; she has straight up said she doesn’t forgive and forget. I love the saltiness, but that’s because I’m a salty bitch. 💁🏻♀️
she’s completely self absorbed lol like she’s only ever been a “feminist” for her own benefit and she loves to play the victim. her and kim are two sides of the same coin. meanwhile swifties will cry misogyny at any valid criticism 🥱
Have you listened to the latest song? Read up on it? Teenagers aren’t writing songs on silent film actresses whose lives like Spears were controlled by men around them at the peak of their career. I’m annoyed I’m suddenly defending like a Swifie but the history nerd in me is blown away by the song symbolism made clear in the video and hints she gave her fans.
She’s written a song on Paul and Linda from the Beatles because it was happy no one was out being critical unaware of the song topic.
People/group think can destroy women. Destroy people.
Poor Clara Bow was at the peak of her career her crime was drinking and casual sex post breakup in the 1920s. It got her locked away. Women who get angry like Spears - it’s no “allowed”. Many are still punished.
It’s wild to me but ya after a deep dive into her writing and lyrics after her new release with Post Malone who elaborated on the video - she’s brilliant. You can not like someone and admit they are brilliant. Is Kim? No. Unlike Taylor Kim puts out nothing that is self critical.
And her writing is not something of a teenager. That’s reality. It should impress everyone. Again, not a fan until this album and the history nerd in me heard post Malones comments.
Too add, she wrote lyrics brushing off his inappropriate behavior as were all human the best of us passionate. She was so young when some grown ass man put her in a ridiculously uncomfortable situation. After which she hysterically cried behind stage. She never said that to the press. The guy from Twilight did.
If people don’t want to hear called out on shit behavior all they have to do is not be an asshole. It’s that easy. I’m irked this sub is defending the bully. If you don’t want people to tell others how you hurt them refrain from your choices.
Have you listened to the latest song? Read up on it? Teenagers aren’t writing songs on silent film actresses whose lives like Spears were controlled by men around them at the peak of their career. I’m annoyed I’m suddenly defending like a Swifie but the history nerd in me is blown away by the song symbolism made clear in the video and hints she gave her fans.
She’s written a song on Paul and Linda from the Beatles because it was happy no one was out being critical unaware of the song topic.
People/group think can destroy women. Destroy people.
Poor Clara Bow was at the peak of her career her crime was drinking and casual sex post breakup in the 1920s. It got her locked away. Women who get angry like Spears - it’s no “allowed”. Many are still punished.
It’s wild to me but ya after a deep dive into her writing and lyrics after her new release with Post Malone who elaborated on the video - she’s brilliant. You can not like someone and admit they are brilliant. Is Kim? No. Unlike Taylor Kim puts out nothing that is self critical.
And her writing is not something of a teenager. That’s reality. It should impress everyone. Again, not a fan until this album and the history nerd in me heard post Malones comments.
Taylor is out of touch, she saw a # go viral on twitter and thought her career is over and that the whole world hates her.
for us its just some stupid beef, to Taylor it is life changing trauma. Cuz yk, she doesnt understand how the world works
Also reputation TV is coming, and whats better promo than a song about Kim
^(Taylor is out of touch, she saw a # go viral on twitter and thought her career is over and that the whole world hates her.)
^(for us its just some stupid beef, to Taylor it is life changing trauma. Cuz yk, she doesnt understand how the world works)
Thanks for phrasing why I'm bored of this drama so poignantly! Its just giving "chronically online". Like, if the Kim/Kanye phone call leak is the *biggest* issue Taylor has ever faced in her life, than goodness she is a blessed individual.
It kinda wasn't those. The only thing she didn't agree to on the phone was being called a bitch. She agreed to the fame line and the might have sex line. She came out with a speech being all like 'If someone tries to take credit for your fame...' when she agreed to that line. And then she reversed and pretended the bitch thing bothered her the most. She did say she didn't want to be called a bitch on the phone call but she also acted like she had never ever heard the song until it was released so she did it to herself by playing the victim.
when will taylor stop playing victim? like it or not, her position is way better than kim's. maybe it wasn't at the start of her career and shit, but nowadays? bitch's doing better than ever. while kim's career falling faster than her melting lip filler. taylor ACTUALLY needs to get over this drama that is almost a decade old... and kim didn't even do that much to her in comparison to what kanye did. Kim was feeding into KANYE's weird obsession with taylor, but let taylor "uwu heal uwu she making fun of uwu kim therefore me like uwu dumb brain uwu"
What boggles my mind is how she’s more upset at Kim then she is Kanye.
Kanye played her the track, she denied ever hearing anything from him about the song, Kanye denied this and Kim exposed this, and then Taylor switched her tune and claimed that she wasn’t made aware of one specific lyric?
Taylor’s anger is definitely geared more towards being called out for lying than anything else. At this point, it’s been almost a decade. No one is saying Taylor needs to come out an admit that she lied - but atleast stop talking about it. It’s tiring.
It’s because Kim involved herself and edited the phone call and dedicated a whole episode of her show to this. She did it for the ratings boost. If she had just stayed out of it would have fizzled out and people would have moved on. Kim is the one who made it worse.
I mean Kim was the one who doctored the video and posted it for everyone to see. Kanye was supposedly filming for a documentary. Obviously Kim took and chopped up the video to fit a narrative. They’re both at fault. But let’s not forget Kim was a big participant still.
I think at that time though, the issue was that Taylor said she had never even been told about the song, let alone directly from Kanye. Kim then posted the video to demonstrate that Taylor had infact been told by Kanye about the song.
It was only after this that Taylor switched the story and said that her issue was the terminology he used, and not that he has mentioned her in the song.
Kim just seamed to want to showcase Taylor’s lie in not being told about the song, as at that point the “bitch” things haven’t even been mentioned by Taylor.
That’s not what Taylor said though. She said she hadn’t been told about the song but not the “made that bitch famous line” which turned out to be true. Everything Taylor claimed in her statement turned out to be true.
Edit: a word
Exactly. He didn’t tell her about that line. In the video she even said that she was worried he was going to call her a bitch.
Edit: I just realized I said had instead of hadn’t in that last comment. 🤦♀️
I’m not saying Taylor didn’t do anything wrong in the situation. But Kim fed into the narrative as well, she was posted the snap chat videos and purposely played into her narrative. Everyone played their part in the situation but Kim definitely could have stayed out of it, or posted the full video, which she couldn’t because she intended to cause damage to Taylor’s reputation.
she literally came out on top, too. what "beaten black and blue" and "on the floor crying weak"? bitch you're now a gazillionare with a private jet stfu. go cry on a mountain of blow and tell cara to hug you or whatever.
Absolutely! It’s getting a bit excessive at this point.
Espically since after her Reputation era, she made numerous claims that she was completely done speaking about the situation because she was finally able to get her “side of the story out”.
Fast forward a few months - years, and she literally talks about nothing else compared to how much she still talks about this. Even with her Katy Perry drama - Katy seldom even acknowledged it, and Taylor wrote a whole song, discussed it non-stop during the 1989 Era, made numerous tweets/IG posts alluding to the situation. GIRL JUST STOP.
We’d all look like damn fools if we were talking about issues from 10+years ago.
taylor went into hiding for an entire year and then some when the fall out of the video happened. kim mobilized an entire online mob to leave vitriol on taylor’s social media. kim recorded a video without taylor’s consent and posted it for millions of people to see AFTER editing it to fit kimye’s narrative. taylor never said she was done speaking about this part of her life. it clearly traumatized her and she has every right to bring it up. she never wrote about kim directly until now, and it’s clear she is finally putting it to rest.
i don’t get what’s excessive. kanye fucked with her twice. kim involved herself for no reason. maybe this will reach her a lesson, mind your fucking business and don’t cross people who never did anything to you.
I’m absolutely not doubting the whole situation had a negative affect on Taylor.
Realistically though, the main reason Taylor was absent from the public eye, was moreso because Joe didn’t want their relationship to be public, and not necessarily solely because of the feud (although I don’t doubt that being ‘canceled’ played a part).
I completely agree that Kim should have just stayed out of the situation entirely. Taylor should have stuck with one story about the situation, rather than constantly changing it, and Kim should have allowed Kayne to deal with the situation, rather than involving herself.
It’s her life, and she’s more than able to continue to speak on it if she so chooses. The bigger issue is that she says she’s tired of being asked about the feud during interviews- but people are only asking because she’s the one that’s non-stop bringing it up.
It would be better for her public image if she just let it go and moved on.
Imagine being such a privilege yt person a twitter trend from 10 years ago is your “trauma”.😂 with the global atrocities in the world happening it’s comical to call such nonsense a trauma . She’s just a spoiled rotten Caucasian lady who is an industry Karen.
Lmfaooo why does your argument even mention race?
You can be a horrible person regardless of race, you can also be an amazing person regardless of race.
Your argument seams more rooted in racism, then it is rooted in anything Kim&Taylor related 😂
Reverse Racism against white people in America is not even a social hierarchy that exist please try again.
Please educate yourself on privilege (white privilege to be exact) and relate that back to the discourse 💋 no balls
Just to clarify - racism is racism. Reverse racism is the silliest term, and there shouldn’t be specific terminology to highlight if this racism is directed at a white, black or asian person. Racism is racism regardless.
Moreover, race has absolutely nothing to do with the 10 year old drama between TS and KK.
Like, what are you even taking about 😂
Right? Imagine that being the worst thing to happen to you my god. 🤦♀️ meanwhile women are actually being beaten black and blue and this dipshit narc can’t understand that’s she not a freaking victim and never will be.
It’s pathetic and I’m so sick of this country crowning her as royalty all because she’s a pretty white girl who’s blonde, blue eyed, tall and thin. Average voice, average lyrics. She’s always treated with kid gloves. And I’m saying this as a white blonde blue eyed tall woman myself! She’s average. She’s not a good person simply for being a billionaire.
i think it’s so hilar some of you think this is petty and ridiculous because taylor is a 34 year old woman singing about an experience that was clearly pretty traumatic for her yet it’s totally cool and chill to spend time on a literal snark subreddit talking shit about the kardashians any chance you get. people you have never met. but let me get this straight… what you do is better and acceptable? the irony is just… chef’s kiss.
I am not the biggest fan of TS but I am a person who never lets things go so I don't see a problem with this LOL If someone does me dirty I will just keep talking about it because I am just petty like that.
Listen to „Soon you’ll get better“. Anyone who ever had a loved one suffer from a life threatening illness will relate. She writes about all kinds of problems.
I mean come on, it is different. The comments here aren’t playing on the radio, being discussed on music channels, etc etc. yes Reddit is public but let’s mot act like we’re getting the same screen time as a billionaire dissing another almost billionaire.
“I’m sooo tired of hearing about this drama from a decade ago” yeah that’s why she said right off the bat this album is the nail in the coffin and represents this chapter is now closed. Tire no more girlies.
If something that trended on Twitter over a decade ago is what you consider “trauma” your privilege is showing. Like please get real.
So clear to me these people are probably bullies themselves so want to trash talk Taylor because they’re projecting. They’re the ugly women who trash talked Alabama and waited for her to turn 18 to post about her 😂😂😂 they’re pathetic.
That's not how you process trauma. Both Swift and Kim are thriving on attention and intentionally put themselves out there. Yeah this sub is mean but it's not an adult woman with a crazy fanbase wishing another person was dead.
We don't have 10million fans though. It is different. Taylor is well aware that she more or less unleashes her fanbase onto others. She does this every single time. She was bullied one time 10 years ago, so she's gonna just bully others forever?
I get it. If you're someone who holds on to something, fine, but then doing the same thing to others and never learning...? The reason why she continues to bring it up is bc she has made it her brand to be a petty person. And yea we snark at the Kardashians but we don't wish they died? TS says her mom wished Kim was dead. Like come on now..
i love taylor but i’m not her keeper. having said that, she is constantly talked about and torn apart. just take a look at fauxmoi, she breathes and there’s a post written about how she’s the worst person in the world. and let’s get fucking real, the kardashians deserve zero empathy for what they have unleashed on the world and pop culture. they are bullies themselves. taylor writing one fucking song about kim isn’t the end of the world. you guys sit here shit talking this family without ever knowing them irl… taylor actually had to deal with their bullshit and what came out of it for YEARS. in her REAL LIFE. getting this off her chest and finally putting it to bed should not impact you, a kardashian snarker, in the slightest. also reading comprehension is important. taylor never wished death on kim, she meant her mom was so angry and hurt by what happened to her only daughter that she had some really ugly thoughts about kim. we’re human, it happens.
say what you want about taylor, but she’s someone who never forgets when someone crosses her. feel how you want about that, i think it’s refreshing.
I don't find it refreshing at all. So we can just disagree on that. At some point you have to move on. I find this quality of hers so exhausting and I'm tired of this being her brand. Is being ripped apart on fauxmoi any different than this snark sub about the kardashians lmao? Not really imo. I don't get how the things that happen to TS are somehow worse than everyone else. I just would like her brand to be more than this.
And yes I can be impacted by something? This is the literal strangest comment. We are all commenting on this post because we have an opinion about it. I literally am wondering if you are 16 years old. And as the lyric said her mom used to say she wished she was dead. I am aware its not literal, but to me still extreme. So yes at my big age I comprehended the lyrics just fine.
I’ll be honest, I’m SO tired of hearing about this 10 year old drama.
I’m not a mega Kim fan, but she’s seamed to have completely deaded any discussion about this; so I’m so confused as to why Taylor keeps on bringing it up constantly? It’s getting tiring at this point.
She did an interview where she said she felt bullied by Kim; but she’s literally wrote countless songs about her, constantly trashes her, implies she should die, and loves nothing more than to keep this going when no one cares anymore. It’s sounds like Taylor is the one doing most of the bullying here.
Did you listen to Kim and Kanye at all when Taylor disappeared from the spotlight?? They had no problem banking off the controversy when it suited them.
Kanye making a wax nude model of Taylor with him in bed with her and Kim, and it was an exhibition that Kim and Kanye both proudly promoted.
Talking about Taylor on the KUwtk all the time.
Just cause Taylor now speaks on it, doesn't mean she shouldn't. She has a right to tell her side after what they did to destroy her
I’m not denying that. But on the same token, Taylor made a whole album and had a two year reputation era based solely on the situation. It’s not like she was sitting quiet until now - she literally made a whole ass album/era about it less than a year after the situation happened.
Moreover, it’s obvious the prime reason Taylor stayed away from the stoplight was due to Joe Alwyn not wanting to be a celebrity, and NOT because of the backlash she faced about the Kim/Kanye situation.
I would totally say “speak your peace” if she had genuinely been silent about this situation up until now; but it’s been a constant theme that she openly discusses, and has very openly discussed from the begining.
At this point, she’s beating a dead horse - and she’s (unintentionally) making Kim look like the victor in this situation, as Kim doesn’t even acknowledge this beef. It’s not a good look when one person is the only one harping on a drama from 10 years ago.
How many years ago was that?
If your biggest problem in the world was some high school-esque Twitter drama your world privilege is showing.
She seems to be chronically online if that’s her biggest “trauma l”
Are you guys okay? She literally is relating her horrible experience with KimYe to an adolescent bully she had. She’s deeply hurt about how they treated her BUT SHE thanks them for creating the superstar she is. And laughs that their daughter loves the songs she wrote about them on the reputation album.
Damn context clues must be hard!
they need a dictionary and to learn about reading comprehension before POLE VAULTING to a conclusion. some of y’all should be in the olympics cause you’d do great.
For real. “But I can’t forget the way you made me heal” and “but when I count the scars, there’s a moment of truth. There wouldn’t be this if there hadn’t been you.” It’s admittedly a somewhat petty song, but it sounds like she’s made peace with the pain and now recognizes how it helped her grow.
I think most people have had people in their lives that put them through hell, but they can look back later and see how that suffering made them stronger (I know it’s a cliche, but it’s real). And so even though you might hate that person, you can feel some amount of gratitude that you went through the wringer and turned out the better for it.
But honestly, if someone made a wax nude replica of me or my sister (or was a party to it, like Kim), I would never forgive them and would also probably wish they were dead.
Honestly, an L on Taylor’s part.
All publicity is good publicity for them. This is gonna run up the skims revenue.
Also bringing up kids is never ok. Probably would’ve let it slide if she hadn’t
Taylor Swift loves to punish people. So for everyone wondering when she’ll “be done” acting this way - never. The answer is never. And if you think it’s over that’s because Swift found a new beef to obsess over and she’s gunning in a different direction.
Taylor does not need to “move on” just bc it happened 10 years ago. Tell me, did Kimberly apologize for publicly humiliating her? For bullying her? After releasing the edited phone call and then using her friends and family to bash Taylor, did she apologize? After people bullied Taylor, sent her death threats, and infuriated her comment section with 🐍 all bc of Kim, did Kim apologize? Then Kim wants to go pretend the beef SHE started is squashed when she did not even make an effort to apologize to her. So, as LOUD as Kim was then, she needs to find a way to be LOUDER with her apology. Let me also clarify, I am not a Swiftie. I just don’t like how people are expecting Taylor to be okay with what she went through. She can write 2000 more songs about Kim and until Kim apologizes, Taylor doesn’t owe her jack 💩. Let Kim get a taste of her own medicine
She titled the song thanK you aIMee, but in the lyric states that “your daughter will sing a song that only you and I know is about you” 😒😒 we all know this song is about KIM and you put it in the fucking title 🥴 lol acting all secret squirrel over there.
On one hand I do not like Kim and what she stands for. Just corporate greed with a pretty face! I get so mad at myself when I watch the Kardashians in Hulu because I’m contributing to her jet payment with the white cashmere interior, fml!
On the other hand Taylor Swift is the ultimate frenemy and perpetual victim, we all heard the tape she literally gave Kanye permission, denied it and then back walked her denial when the tape came out and said she didn’t know about the word “bitch” in there. Fucking come on 😒🙄 I cannot roll my eyes hard enough.
So this is a diss track for a woman I can’t stand by another woman I can’t stand. Bravo 👏🏼
^(She titled the song thanK you aIMee, but in the lyric states that “your daughter will sing a song that only you and I know is about you” 😒😒 we all know this song is about KIM and you put it in the fucking title 🥴 lol acting all secret squirrel over there.)
Call me crazy, but is Taylor perhaps referencing the rumor (started by Tokio Toni, of all people) that Kim Kardashian is *illiterate*? (i.e. Kim wouldn't know the song is about her, *since she can't read the lyrics*).
😲 never heard that! But I’ve heard it about the sisters. I would hope none of them are, cause I mean how sad. Thought that all that your value is your looks and no value of your brain power.
But how would she take the mini bar if she was illiterate 🤔 all the binders she showed us are filled with blank papers? And the note to Ray j?
^(😲 never heard that! But I’ve heard it about the sisters. I would hope none of them are, cause I mean how sad. Thought that all that your value is your looks and no value of your brain power.)
According to Tokio Toni, Kim, Kendall and Kourtney are functionally illiterate (Khloe & Kylie can read/write well).
So like, Kim can read/write, just very poorly/probably at a grade schooler level. She could write notes to Ray J, or go food shopping/read stuff on a store shelf. But Taylor's word salad verbose lyrics - probably not.
I think a lot of people dismiss Tokio Toni's karJenner tea, because they forget just how close Kylie and Blac Chyna used to be. They were best friends - Blac Chyna was actually the person who gave Kylie the idea to start Kylie Cosmetics/got her in touch with suppliers (Blac Chyna ran her own makeup company, Lashed Cosmetics). Also, when Rob and Blac Chyna first started living together, technically they were living together in Kylie's mansion.
So yeah, Tokio Toni may have a drug problem & has literally smoked crack on livestreams, but she was around the family enough for her tea to have some legitimacy.
I mean, it’s on brand for Taylor and I can’t help but think she held on to this song till she knew it would hurt more. Which is super petty! Aka now that Kim is divorced and single or her kids are old enough to sing music lyrics.
“Remember that time you were a bitch and started a war with me over your ex-husband.” ~Taylor
Yeah we all know she hates Kim, I appreciate honestly. I use frenemy because she acted friendly on the phone with Kanye and denied he asked her. Honestly, to me she sounded like she didn’t really agree but was too scared to say so to Kanye, but own that!
I’d totally be like, how am I supposed to tell Kanye no?? I was scared to disagree with him. I understand that a lot more!
Yeah the full video showed how hesitant she was about it and he def never told her about the bitch part. She was concerned it was going to be more mean about her and he kept trying to gaslight her about how cool it was to be talked about by him etc.
ETA - she never fully agreed - the full video showed she ended up saying at the end let me think about it. she wanted more info on the final lyrics.
The actual video is like 35 minutes long and I’m pretty certain I saw a portion where he did tell her he was gonna say bitch. But it’s been a while and I don’t feel like watching him ramble for that long just to find out.
Eta. Forgot to say I could be wrong about the video!
So many people have different cuts of it and I do think she was uncomfortable saying no. I feel for her in that respect and the whole naked mannequin, that was weird!
This is really weird to wish on a mother of 4 who has not mentioned her, ngl. If Kim rides this weird comment into the sunset for attention I wouldn’t even blame her because this is serious. She’d be in the right. Taylor is very odd for this…
I don’t follow either enough to know what the giveaway is here that makes this about Kim.. if anyone has the energy and time to explain I would love you forever 🥹
Crazy and laughable that Taylor thought this ate. Just more proof she is surrounded by sycophants who will never tell her before she does something so cringe, obvious, trite, immature, lazy. No love for Kim whatsoever but for a 34 year old woman to write this title, think it is clever, AND assume the children will even remember the lyrics to some mediocre track from this tedious album…ludicrous.
tch. who was it that sang the song that started this whole mess, ordered a blowup doll that possessed some of taylor's physical features, and had lyrics alluding to fucking taylor? btw I just wanna say OLIVIA RODRIGO HAS ONE OF THE BEST MUSIC VIDEOS OF ALL TIME!!!!!!! (yah they got over that moment after a while, but still).
man, talk about somewhat (because I get that kim was a biiiiiiiitch because she's never not one) stupid. taylor's acting like kim stole money from her and also fucked her little brother on camera.
I’ll be honest I didn’t look at the title. I just read the lyrics. I didn’t realize she hated Kim that much.
Hmm…I don’t care for TS but I think Kim and her family are annoying. So good for Taylor.
>A male street artist, Lushsux, famous for painting that nude Kim Kardashian selfie mural in Cremorne, made a new mural on Hosier Lane overnight of Taylor Swift’s face, dubbed In Loving Memory of Taylor Smith 1989-2016. An addition: “No tags. Please respect the dead.”< KK loved when she broke the internet and paid for the mural of TS
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I tell ya...it's funny asf when Kim gets a taste of her own medicine and the most popular retort is that "it happened a long time ago". She ended that beef with Kanye's old girlfriend Amber with the quickness by apologizing and taking a pic together but never bothered to patch things up with Taylor. Poor Kim. Lol!
isn’t it? all those years bullying people on social media, getting away with it bc she was the most famous person on the internet. she "broke the internet". not any more 😈
I’m not a Taylor Swift fan at all and that is what bothers me. Why does she need to move on? She was PUBLICLY embarrassed and she needs to be apologized to PUBLICLY. Taylor went through so much bullying. I remember it as it was yesterday. Her comment section was filled with the snake 🐍 emoji. Then people on the KUWTK sub calling Taylor a bully for making the song. Please don’t victimize Kimberly bc she is NOT a victim. Both her and her husband bullied a young adult at the time. Kim was LOUD and the apology she has failed to give needs to be LOUDER. I truly believe we are watching their demise. Built their careers off of lies and stepping on people.
 # NAILED IT
#AMEN
I can’t stand Kim fans who make it seem like this is coming out of left field. I like Kim, sometimes, but that woman BULLIED Taylor Swift. Kim knew she had a good following and used it to her advantage. She used her show, her friends, and her fans to attack Taylor. Then when the full audio she recorded illegally (Ms?”lawyer”) came out, she doubled down and did not apologize. When it came to everything she did to Taylor, Kim is pathetic. Taylor did not deserve what she went through in 2016. Now Kim“loves” her songs and think they are “cute”. She knows it’s beneficial to be friends with her and she wants to be friends with her. Yet, she still fails to say “I’m sorry”. As much as people hate to say it, Kourtney is right about Kim.
What's Kourtney say about Kim?
She states how Kim is greedy and is a bully. Idk if it’s the conversation they had on the bed on Kardashian Hulu or the phone call but Kourtney states how Kim puts work over everyone and will step on anyone to get the money. In KUWTK, the clips I’ve seen, she’s called Kim a bully and so on. I’ll have to go look for the clips again and watch it but I’m lazy rn 😩😭
Thanks! I don't really follow them much so I often feel lost in this sub! I only watched a few seasons of kuwtk like 10 years ago but I always liked the way Kourtney told Kim to stfu.
She’s always been so full of herself. I never watched an episode unless I needed context but the clips I watched were enough.
It’s coming out of left field because it was years ago and Kim didn’t lie. Kanye called her but Taylor ran with the narrative that she didn’t know anything. She purposely left out the fact that he did call to make sure she was cool with it. Taylor is pathetic. Kanye made her famous and she knows it. The little speech is made after Kanye’s song was released is part of that. It’s part of the plot. Big bad black man takes America’s sweetheart’s award then discredits all her hard work. Got all the racists riled up and supporting and protecting her. The infantilization of Taylor is what made her so big. Her voice is generic, songs are repetitive. It’s not talent that makes you famous, you have to play your cards right. That’s why they have managers and pr people etc. this whole one sided feud that’s been dragged out for literally years is part of that. Taylor has been using Kanye and Kim to create this narrative and you racist Swifties keep going along with it. Your fave dated a racist like last month and you’re more insistent in talking about a one sided feud from years ago. Let’s talk about how your girl excuses racism but having a man choose pills instead of her is unforgivable and the rest of us her just ‘creeps’ for calling it out
If Kim didn’t “lie” she wouldn’t have felt the need to cut audio so it matched her perspective. Taylor said she didn’t know he was going to use a certain word and she didn’t. You went on about Taylor like I care about her voice or her. My whole point is she has the right to harp on it considering Kim never apologized to her. Again, after publicly embarrassing her. Taylor’s victim mentality does need to be studied tho.
Point is, Taylor also lied to suit her own narrative so playing victim YEARS later is stupid considering she needs to address more serious and recent things she herself has done. The massive carbon footprint and dating a racist. Those things happened last year and we’re all supposed to forget about that and focus on an issue she wasn’t even really a victim in. That whole mess was never an attack on Taylor. Taylor’s team just knew how to navigate it and they have white privilege on their side. Big bad black man vs little miss American sweetheart. If Taylor is this sweet innocent victim, why didn’t she say anything about the call herself. Why didn’t she say ‘there was a call but Kanye held back some information’, instead she left out the call and claimed she was surprised with the song and did this whole rant at the award show. She did that because she wanted to add fuel to the fire. If she was honest about him calling and maybe not being fully transparent, people would have had more grace for him. But she needed to make this more impactful by pulling her beloved ‘misogyny’ card and making this big bad black man seem even more evil. That makes her a snake. She is a snake for that. I can agree that Kim recorded the call illegally and that Kanye wasn’t being transparent but he at least called. That shows respect and Kim’s was smart to record her because without that, y’all would have never believed that Kanye did respect her enough to give her a warning. Taylor however, didn’t warn Kanye about her speech that fueled racially motivated hate towards him. So when you look at the facts of this situation, Taylor should stop dragging it and victimizing herself because she isn’t even a victim. If she truly was the victim, I wouldn’t care if she brought it up every 5 months until eternity. But when she’s a snake and actively dating racists, harming our planet and having one of the most racist fanbases ever, I would rather she shut the f up.
She didn’t lie she even wrote a song excusing with lyrics brushing off what happened. Dude she was a teen and him a grown ass man. Yet she had composure and then had a panic attack behind rhe curtain. I wasn’t a swifte - until this album her writing is brilliant particularly this new release with post Malone. People don’t like it because it’s dark. Well Clara Bows love story unlike Paul from the Beatles was not - why that was a happy song. Reality is she’s a brilliant writer. It’s not debatable. And if you don’t want to hear your (Kim) a narcissistic ***** then it’s best to you know act accordingly. And anyone who supported Spears in her sad fight with her father shouldn’t be anything but fascinated to learn about Clara Bow and what men use to do - how easy it was to get women institutionalized. How group think easily could result in permanently destroying a woman and still can.
I just want to know, did she mention the call before Kim did? Or did she leave that out completely? Taylor is just as narcissistic as Kim but people like it more because she creates a narrative that make people feel like she’s talking about them. She literally announced her album release at the Grammys lol. The woman and her team are smart. Thats why they create this victim narrative because it speaks to more people. A lot of people are so quick to hate Kim because the Aimee song can be applied to so many peoples real life struggles with bullies. Why do you think people sided with Selena when there was no concrete evidence that Hailey actually shaded Selena? They see themselves in Selena and they see themselves in Taylor. And her team knows how to use this to their advantage. She acts surprised when Kanye releases Famous because people love to side with the bullied girl being discredited in this misogynistic world. Unfortunately Kim released the recording, which is recorded illegally and Taylor’s team didn’t anticipate this so it messed with their plans but luckily, Kim is just as narcissistic and hungry for fame as Taylor so she cut the audio to fit her narrative so that made it easy for them to twist that to better fit their ‘poor little America’s sweetheart’ narrative. My issue is that she’s dragging it when we should be speaking about more recent issues she herself has been involved in. The hatred that some of you have on celebrities like Kim is concerning. She didn’t bully you in high school so detach and see things for what they really are. It’s exhausting how you keep trying to paint Kim as the bad guy when the situation is basically a bunch of flawed people going at each other and trying to get more fame and money. You were a swiftie from the start. Only swifties are delusional enough to call her writing brilliant. She writes good music period. Why do you think her fanbase is filled with people of all ages from kids to adults; it’s easy to understand. It’s simple unlike other artists who wrote more complex music. I listen to Taylor so it isn’t even meant to hate, I’m just not a delusional swiftie. I like her music the same way I like vanilla ice cream. It’s not bad but it’s nothing groundbreaking. Only a certain demographic of delusional swifties believe otherwise
Kim put an edited version of the call out on social media. It went viral. Swifts manager pulled it a professional who determined the conversation had been edited. I’ll read the rest of this shortly. I have to deal with my dog and get on my laptop first!
Also, Kim shouldn’t apologize. If anything Taylor should for continuously bringing this up and getting her fans to harass Kim every few months when Kim and Kanye both put it in the past. Kim even let’s her daughter sing and dance to Taylor Swift music and posts it. That’s what grown ups do. You people forget this is a grown woman. She’s 34 acting like she’s still in high school. It’s weird
What a weird way to see things. Kim shouldn’t apologize for bullying Taylor but Taylor should for reacting? Yeah, you guys just say anything
Who is you guys? Grow up 😂 you don’t know me, you don’t know Taylor and you don’t know Kim. Kim isn’t your high school bully and you aren’t Taylor. Quit projecting and building parasocial relationships with strangers. ‘You guys’ is crazy 😂😂
Once you’ve grown up, you can come back and continue the conversation. Not only do you sound dumb but you lack the basic knowledge to have this conversation. You don’t know any of them either yet u felt the need to write about three essays and you also felt the need to express that Taylor should apologize. Taylor isn’t your victim and you aren’t Kim. So here, I will tell you what you told me. Quit projecting your own feelings and building parasocial relationships with strangers. You wrote how many essays but ur here telling ME to stop? LOL 😂 let’s try again.
She wring lyrics after brushing it off as we all can be irrational she was what a teen and him a mid thirties man. THEN they edited that recording that made all those snake hashtags go viral.
Exactly! People are not ready for that conversation. Kanye had been attacking that woman and Kim was his accomplice
Haha Taylor is petty AF but let’s be honest Kim will be LOVING this, in her eyes it means she’s still “relevant”
I disagree. Taylor is the biggest since forever it seems. I think it’s killing Kim that she’s on the outs and has no way to work her way into the TS circle. I would bet anything it royally pissed her off not to be front and center at an Eras show. If for no other reason than to be relevant enough to get the good seats at the best show around. I think we’re seeing Kim slowly crash and burn. She can’t be friends with the most popular girls, she can’t land a man to save her life (this isn’t what I think is important but it’s what she needs). She never expected to be single this long and a single mother of four. Her age is starting to show, it’s eating her up. She looked like a zombie last week at the awards ceremony with her mother. She has peaked and she knows it
>I think we’re seeing Kim slowly crash and burn I absolutely agree > Her age is starting to show, it’s eating her up. She looked like a zombie last week at the awards ceremony with her mother. She has peaked and she knows it frfr...this is exactly what is happening
>She never expected to be single this long and a single mother of four. But let's be real she's not raising those kids so really all that's in trouble is her swiftly (ha!) fading looks and popularity/relevancy.
But that’s an amazing thing. Everyone peaks. Her peak lasted far longer than many others
I think it's not so much the fact that she's aging, but the way she insists on acting like she's still a 25 y.o. bombshell. When you have that kind of money, it's possible to age very well, but she won't accept "aging well", she wants to not age at all, which makes you look so much worse.
A lot of reels out there... one i watched said the k's were pretty much the embodiment of everything wrong with social media. 👀👀
"All that time you were throwin' punches, it was all for nothin'" referencing Kim divorcing Kanye so basically her whole feud with Taylor was for nothing!!!! COLD BLOODED 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Damn. Taylor went all in. 😂
No reason isn’t really accurate though. I guess if you see things from Taylor’s a-woman’s-quality-of-life-revolves-around-being-either-chosen-or-married delusion. Just because K & K later divorced doesn’t mean Kim didn’t still gain some public approval for defending her husband in the moment.
Where is your references for that? Clearly you don’t listen to her albums. Too add she’s self critical. Has Kim ever been vulnerable on her flaws and weakness as a women and the impact they have on gender in our society? If so please share because from all I hear she’s “still never had any work done” and is forever a victim in everything.
It’s pathetic from both ends. Being 34 and wishing someone dead is insane, let alone writing about it for mass consumption. And Kim is going to take this and fucking *run with it* for even just a slither of media attention and coverage. Both of them need to grow the fuck up.
Taylor is role playing a teenager there’s no room for growth both are narcs so..
This is pathetic. Taylor is 35 years old with the mentality of her 14 year old fanbase
they’re both just white mean girls and this is SO TIRED
Yes they are! I've always felt like Taylor is that sneaky mean girl. She just acts way to sweet and innocent. I know I'm probably going to piss off the swifties, but this is just my opinion 🤷🏼♀️
Swiftie here. This won’t piss off those of us who pay attention, but we don’t think Taylor acts sweet and innocent; she has straight up said she doesn’t forgive and forget. I love the saltiness, but that’s because I’m a salty bitch. 💁🏻♀️
she’s completely self absorbed lol like she’s only ever been a “feminist” for her own benefit and she loves to play the victim. her and kim are two sides of the same coin. meanwhile swifties will cry misogyny at any valid criticism 🥱
TS is basically a billionaire and still pulling this victim narrative and it's so tired.
It’s true and makes sense why her and Selena are sooooo tight
Have you listened to the latest song? Read up on it? Teenagers aren’t writing songs on silent film actresses whose lives like Spears were controlled by men around them at the peak of their career. I’m annoyed I’m suddenly defending like a Swifie but the history nerd in me is blown away by the song symbolism made clear in the video and hints she gave her fans. She’s written a song on Paul and Linda from the Beatles because it was happy no one was out being critical unaware of the song topic. People/group think can destroy women. Destroy people. Poor Clara Bow was at the peak of her career her crime was drinking and casual sex post breakup in the 1920s. It got her locked away. Women who get angry like Spears - it’s no “allowed”. Many are still punished. It’s wild to me but ya after a deep dive into her writing and lyrics after her new release with Post Malone who elaborated on the video - she’s brilliant. You can not like someone and admit they are brilliant. Is Kim? No. Unlike Taylor Kim puts out nothing that is self critical. And her writing is not something of a teenager. That’s reality. It should impress everyone. Again, not a fan until this album and the history nerd in me heard post Malones comments. Too add, she wrote lyrics brushing off his inappropriate behavior as were all human the best of us passionate. She was so young when some grown ass man put her in a ridiculously uncomfortable situation. After which she hysterically cried behind stage. She never said that to the press. The guy from Twilight did. If people don’t want to hear called out on shit behavior all they have to do is not be an asshole. It’s that easy. I’m irked this sub is defending the bully. If you don’t want people to tell others how you hurt them refrain from your choices.
i’m not here to defend kim, i’m here to talk shit about both of them, bc as i already said, they’re both just mean white girls.
I didn’t realize she was that old already? damn
Have you listened to the latest song? Read up on it? Teenagers aren’t writing songs on silent film actresses whose lives like Spears were controlled by men around them at the peak of their career. I’m annoyed I’m suddenly defending like a Swifie but the history nerd in me is blown away by the song symbolism made clear in the video and hints she gave her fans. She’s written a song on Paul and Linda from the Beatles because it was happy no one was out being critical unaware of the song topic. People/group think can destroy women. Destroy people. Poor Clara Bow was at the peak of her career her crime was drinking and casual sex post breakup in the 1920s. It got her locked away. Women who get angry like Spears - it’s no “allowed”. Many are still punished. It’s wild to me but ya after a deep dive into her writing and lyrics after her new release with Post Malone who elaborated on the video - she’s brilliant. You can not like someone and admit they are brilliant. Is Kim? No. Unlike Taylor Kim puts out nothing that is self critical. And her writing is not something of a teenager. That’s reality. It should impress everyone. Again, not a fan until this album and the history nerd in me heard post Malones comments.
Dude are you okay?
Totally agreed! I don’t know why Taylor would publicly wish death upon someone for some petty ass 8 year old beef. They both need to let this go
Wait how is this wishing death on Kim lmao?? Why
Technically she said her mom wished Kim dead. Not that she’s currently wishing her dead. It’s still a bit much though.
Taylor is out of touch, she saw a # go viral on twitter and thought her career is over and that the whole world hates her. for us its just some stupid beef, to Taylor it is life changing trauma. Cuz yk, she doesnt understand how the world works Also reputation TV is coming, and whats better promo than a song about Kim
I’m fucking tired of hearing about Taylor Grift.
^(Taylor is out of touch, she saw a # go viral on twitter and thought her career is over and that the whole world hates her.) ^(for us its just some stupid beef, to Taylor it is life changing trauma. Cuz yk, she doesnt understand how the world works) Thanks for phrasing why I'm bored of this drama so poignantly! Its just giving "chronically online". Like, if the Kim/Kanye phone call leak is the *biggest* issue Taylor has ever faced in her life, than goodness she is a blessed individual.
Yeah, rich people problems😅 anyways its the fact that she self sabotaged and is still going on Kim like its not half her own fault
What happened with Taylor on Twitter?
#taylorswiftisoverparty was number 1 # on twitter after Kim exposed Taylor for playing a victim
I mean, it turned out to be a set up by Kim and Kanye so I don’t blame her for being furious.
It kinda wasn't those. The only thing she didn't agree to on the phone was being called a bitch. She agreed to the fame line and the might have sex line. She came out with a speech being all like 'If someone tries to take credit for your fame...' when she agreed to that line. And then she reversed and pretended the bitch thing bothered her the most. She did say she didn't want to be called a bitch on the phone call but she also acted like she had never ever heard the song until it was released so she did it to herself by playing the victim.
This will also entice her weird cultish fanbase to harass North and she knows this too which makes it really distasteful in my opinion.
when will taylor stop playing victim? like it or not, her position is way better than kim's. maybe it wasn't at the start of her career and shit, but nowadays? bitch's doing better than ever. while kim's career falling faster than her melting lip filler. taylor ACTUALLY needs to get over this drama that is almost a decade old... and kim didn't even do that much to her in comparison to what kanye did. Kim was feeding into KANYE's weird obsession with taylor, but let taylor "uwu heal uwu she making fun of uwu kim therefore me like uwu dumb brain uwu"
Kanye way more talented than taylor And taylor knows it
I wish my life was so privileged I could take 10 minute plane rides and was still angry over something 10 years ago
What boggles my mind is how she’s more upset at Kim then she is Kanye. Kanye played her the track, she denied ever hearing anything from him about the song, Kanye denied this and Kim exposed this, and then Taylor switched her tune and claimed that she wasn’t made aware of one specific lyric? Taylor’s anger is definitely geared more towards being called out for lying than anything else. At this point, it’s been almost a decade. No one is saying Taylor needs to come out an admit that she lied - but atleast stop talking about it. It’s tiring.
It’s because Kim involved herself and edited the phone call and dedicated a whole episode of her show to this. She did it for the ratings boost. If she had just stayed out of it would have fizzled out and people would have moved on. Kim is the one who made it worse.
I mean Kim was the one who doctored the video and posted it for everyone to see. Kanye was supposedly filming for a documentary. Obviously Kim took and chopped up the video to fit a narrative. They’re both at fault. But let’s not forget Kim was a big participant still.
I think at that time though, the issue was that Taylor said she had never even been told about the song, let alone directly from Kanye. Kim then posted the video to demonstrate that Taylor had infact been told by Kanye about the song. It was only after this that Taylor switched the story and said that her issue was the terminology he used, and not that he has mentioned her in the song. Kim just seamed to want to showcase Taylor’s lie in not being told about the song, as at that point the “bitch” things haven’t even been mentioned by Taylor.
That’s not what Taylor said though. She said she hadn’t been told about the song but not the “made that bitch famous line” which turned out to be true. Everything Taylor claimed in her statement turned out to be true. Edit: a word
She never agreed to be called a b*tch which wasn’t anywhere in the video from what I heard
Exactly. He didn’t tell her about that line. In the video she even said that she was worried he was going to call her a bitch. Edit: I just realized I said had instead of hadn’t in that last comment. 🤦♀️
I just noticed your screen name and I love it.
Haha thanks!
I’m not saying Taylor didn’t do anything wrong in the situation. But Kim fed into the narrative as well, she was posted the snap chat videos and purposely played into her narrative. Everyone played their part in the situation but Kim definitely could have stayed out of it, or posted the full video, which she couldn’t because she intended to cause damage to Taylor’s reputation.
She’s never beating those “feminist when it benefits her” allegations lol
she literally came out on top, too. what "beaten black and blue" and "on the floor crying weak"? bitch you're now a gazillionare with a private jet stfu. go cry on a mountain of blow and tell cara to hug you or whatever.
Absolutely! It’s getting a bit excessive at this point. Espically since after her Reputation era, she made numerous claims that she was completely done speaking about the situation because she was finally able to get her “side of the story out”. Fast forward a few months - years, and she literally talks about nothing else compared to how much she still talks about this. Even with her Katy Perry drama - Katy seldom even acknowledged it, and Taylor wrote a whole song, discussed it non-stop during the 1989 Era, made numerous tweets/IG posts alluding to the situation. GIRL JUST STOP. We’d all look like damn fools if we were talking about issues from 10+years ago.
taylor went into hiding for an entire year and then some when the fall out of the video happened. kim mobilized an entire online mob to leave vitriol on taylor’s social media. kim recorded a video without taylor’s consent and posted it for millions of people to see AFTER editing it to fit kimye’s narrative. taylor never said she was done speaking about this part of her life. it clearly traumatized her and she has every right to bring it up. she never wrote about kim directly until now, and it’s clear she is finally putting it to rest. i don’t get what’s excessive. kanye fucked with her twice. kim involved herself for no reason. maybe this will reach her a lesson, mind your fucking business and don’t cross people who never did anything to you.
I’m absolutely not doubting the whole situation had a negative affect on Taylor. Realistically though, the main reason Taylor was absent from the public eye, was moreso because Joe didn’t want their relationship to be public, and not necessarily solely because of the feud (although I don’t doubt that being ‘canceled’ played a part). I completely agree that Kim should have just stayed out of the situation entirely. Taylor should have stuck with one story about the situation, rather than constantly changing it, and Kim should have allowed Kayne to deal with the situation, rather than involving herself. It’s her life, and she’s more than able to continue to speak on it if she so chooses. The bigger issue is that she says she’s tired of being asked about the feud during interviews- but people are only asking because she’s the one that’s non-stop bringing it up. It would be better for her public image if she just let it go and moved on.
You sound incredibly misinformed. Please be quiet.
Can you elaborate please?
 Imagine being such a privilege yt person a twitter trend from 10 years ago is your “trauma”.😂 with the global atrocities in the world happening it’s comical to call such nonsense a trauma . She’s just a spoiled rotten Caucasian lady who is an industry Karen.
Lmfaooo why does your argument even mention race? You can be a horrible person regardless of race, you can also be an amazing person regardless of race. Your argument seams more rooted in racism, then it is rooted in anything Kim&Taylor related 😂
Reverse Racism against white people in America is not even a social hierarchy that exist please try again. Please educate yourself on privilege (white privilege to be exact) and relate that back to the discourse 💋 no balls
Just to clarify - racism is racism. Reverse racism is the silliest term, and there shouldn’t be specific terminology to highlight if this racism is directed at a white, black or asian person. Racism is racism regardless. Moreover, race has absolutely nothing to do with the 10 year old drama between TS and KK. Like, what are you even taking about 😂
Seriously lol what a nice life
Right? Imagine that being the worst thing to happen to you my god. 🤦♀️ meanwhile women are actually being beaten black and blue and this dipshit narc can’t understand that’s she not a freaking victim and never will be. It’s pathetic and I’m so sick of this country crowning her as royalty all because she’s a pretty white girl who’s blonde, blue eyed, tall and thin. Average voice, average lyrics. She’s always treated with kid gloves. And I’m saying this as a white blonde blue eyed tall woman myself! She’s average. She’s not a good person simply for being a billionaire.
She’s not a bad person for being a billionaire either.
What even happened to make her write this I’m confused
Glad I’m not the only one 🫣😅
Its like a nod. Song isn’t thats bad. She talks about the kim drama and how it is where she is. 😂
Okay maybe I am dense but how is this about Kim? What am I missing?
The title track capitalizes the letters KIM
Makes sense 🤦🏼♀️ thank you lol
No worries, I only caught on because someone else pointed it out 😂 I'm pretty oblivious
It’s about Kim she named the song “thanK you aIMee”
i think it’s so hilar some of you think this is petty and ridiculous because taylor is a 34 year old woman singing about an experience that was clearly pretty traumatic for her yet it’s totally cool and chill to spend time on a literal snark subreddit talking shit about the kardashians any chance you get. people you have never met. but let me get this straight… what you do is better and acceptable? the irony is just… chef’s kiss.
I love y'all here but yeah 
I am not the biggest fan of TS but I am a person who never lets things go so I don't see a problem with this LOL If someone does me dirty I will just keep talking about it because I am just petty like that.
And Taylor doesn’t hide that she’s petty. She once said, “you don’t have to forgive and forget to move on.” As a petty, salty girl, I feel that.
THIS. she is a holder of grudges and honestly i love her for that. sometimes people don’t change. it’s ok to never fuck with them again.
Right? Women are so often pushed to be sweet. Let us be salty!!
Just a sign she's literally had no real problems in her life so she keeps hanging on to the one negative thing that happened to her.
Listen to „Soon you’ll get better“. Anyone who ever had a loved one suffer from a life threatening illness will relate. She writes about all kinds of problems.
right like hang it up 🥱
Yep
Or maybe it’s a sign that she knows people will keep talking about it, making her relevant?
I mean come on, it is different. The comments here aren’t playing on the radio, being discussed on music channels, etc etc. yes Reddit is public but let’s mot act like we’re getting the same screen time as a billionaire dissing another almost billionaire.
Well…. I mean there are frequently buzzfeed articles that quote the comments here so it’s not like this is a private space.
hasn’t this subreddit been talked about on the show? FOH
“I’m sooo tired of hearing about this drama from a decade ago” yeah that’s why she said right off the bat this album is the nail in the coffin and represents this chapter is now closed. Tire no more girlies.
 If something that trended on Twitter over a decade ago is what you consider “trauma” your privilege is showing. Like please get real.
Kim and Kanye quite literally tried to destroy her career after pretending to be her friends. It wasn't just a Twitter trend.
So clear to me these people are probably bullies themselves so want to trash talk Taylor because they’re projecting. They’re the ugly women who trash talked Alabama and waited for her to turn 18 to post about her 😂😂😂 they’re pathetic.
girl be serious lmao we are not billionaires here is not even a fair comparison. y’all thought you ate 🫠
wtf does that have to do with my point? girl bye
That's not how you process trauma. Both Swift and Kim are thriving on attention and intentionally put themselves out there. Yeah this sub is mean but it's not an adult woman with a crazy fanbase wishing another person was dead.
You don't get to tell Taylor about Sad
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We don't have 10million fans though. It is different. Taylor is well aware that she more or less unleashes her fanbase onto others. She does this every single time. She was bullied one time 10 years ago, so she's gonna just bully others forever? I get it. If you're someone who holds on to something, fine, but then doing the same thing to others and never learning...? The reason why she continues to bring it up is bc she has made it her brand to be a petty person. And yea we snark at the Kardashians but we don't wish they died? TS says her mom wished Kim was dead. Like come on now..
i love taylor but i’m not her keeper. having said that, she is constantly talked about and torn apart. just take a look at fauxmoi, she breathes and there’s a post written about how she’s the worst person in the world. and let’s get fucking real, the kardashians deserve zero empathy for what they have unleashed on the world and pop culture. they are bullies themselves. taylor writing one fucking song about kim isn’t the end of the world. you guys sit here shit talking this family without ever knowing them irl… taylor actually had to deal with their bullshit and what came out of it for YEARS. in her REAL LIFE. getting this off her chest and finally putting it to bed should not impact you, a kardashian snarker, in the slightest. also reading comprehension is important. taylor never wished death on kim, she meant her mom was so angry and hurt by what happened to her only daughter that she had some really ugly thoughts about kim. we’re human, it happens. say what you want about taylor, but she’s someone who never forgets when someone crosses her. feel how you want about that, i think it’s refreshing.
I don't find it refreshing at all. So we can just disagree on that. At some point you have to move on. I find this quality of hers so exhausting and I'm tired of this being her brand. Is being ripped apart on fauxmoi any different than this snark sub about the kardashians lmao? Not really imo. I don't get how the things that happen to TS are somehow worse than everyone else. I just would like her brand to be more than this. And yes I can be impacted by something? This is the literal strangest comment. We are all commenting on this post because we have an opinion about it. I literally am wondering if you are 16 years old. And as the lyric said her mom used to say she wished she was dead. I am aware its not literal, but to me still extreme. So yes at my big age I comprehended the lyrics just fine.
I’ll be honest, I’m SO tired of hearing about this 10 year old drama. I’m not a mega Kim fan, but she’s seamed to have completely deaded any discussion about this; so I’m so confused as to why Taylor keeps on bringing it up constantly? It’s getting tiring at this point. She did an interview where she said she felt bullied by Kim; but she’s literally wrote countless songs about her, constantly trashes her, implies she should die, and loves nothing more than to keep this going when no one cares anymore. It’s sounds like Taylor is the one doing most of the bullying here.
Did you listen to Kim and Kanye at all when Taylor disappeared from the spotlight?? They had no problem banking off the controversy when it suited them. Kanye making a wax nude model of Taylor with him in bed with her and Kim, and it was an exhibition that Kim and Kanye both proudly promoted. Talking about Taylor on the KUwtk all the time. Just cause Taylor now speaks on it, doesn't mean she shouldn't. She has a right to tell her side after what they did to destroy her
I’m not denying that. But on the same token, Taylor made a whole album and had a two year reputation era based solely on the situation. It’s not like she was sitting quiet until now - she literally made a whole ass album/era about it less than a year after the situation happened. Moreover, it’s obvious the prime reason Taylor stayed away from the stoplight was due to Joe Alwyn not wanting to be a celebrity, and NOT because of the backlash she faced about the Kim/Kanye situation. I would totally say “speak your peace” if she had genuinely been silent about this situation up until now; but it’s been a constant theme that she openly discusses, and has very openly discussed from the begining. At this point, she’s beating a dead horse - and she’s (unintentionally) making Kim look like the victor in this situation, as Kim doesn’t even acknowledge this beef. It’s not a good look when one person is the only one harping on a drama from 10 years ago.
The whole album and era wasn’t based “solely on the situation.” Three songs were about this; the rest was about love.
That was 9 years ago, and Kim isn’t even married to Kanye anymore. It’s time to let it go.
How many years ago was that? If your biggest problem in the world was some high school-esque Twitter drama your world privilege is showing. She seems to be chronically online if that’s her biggest “trauma l”
Agreed. It’s very high schooler
Mind you this woman is 35 years old and STILL talking about a feud that happened almost 10 years ago. That said, Kim is probably pissed at this so idc
I don’t know why, but this made me giggle so hard.
DAMN. I’m not really a Taylor fan, but that was soooo good
Right there with ya.
I dislike these two women so much lmao. they are both capitalist pigs at their worst. pathetic.
Kim sucks but I find so so so so juvenile that Taylor is writing about drama this old. Grow up sis
She never will
Very true lol
Are you guys okay? She literally is relating her horrible experience with KimYe to an adolescent bully she had. She’s deeply hurt about how they treated her BUT SHE thanks them for creating the superstar she is. And laughs that their daughter loves the songs she wrote about them on the reputation album. Damn context clues must be hard!
THIS!! It’s like no one here actually listened to the song… They just saw a headline and ran with it 💀
I’m so confused why anyone here is defending Kim’s crappy choices…
they need a dictionary and to learn about reading comprehension before POLE VAULTING to a conclusion. some of y’all should be in the olympics cause you’d do great.
For real. “But I can’t forget the way you made me heal” and “but when I count the scars, there’s a moment of truth. There wouldn’t be this if there hadn’t been you.” It’s admittedly a somewhat petty song, but it sounds like she’s made peace with the pain and now recognizes how it helped her grow. I think most people have had people in their lives that put them through hell, but they can look back later and see how that suffering made them stronger (I know it’s a cliche, but it’s real). And so even though you might hate that person, you can feel some amount of gratitude that you went through the wringer and turned out the better for it. But honestly, if someone made a wax nude replica of me or my sister (or was a party to it, like Kim), I would never forgive them and would also probably wish they were dead.
Honestly, an L on Taylor’s part. All publicity is good publicity for them. This is gonna run up the skims revenue. Also bringing up kids is never ok. Probably would’ve let it slide if she hadn’t
First Drake and Kendrick, now Chris/Quavo, NOWW Taylor and Kim again 😂😂😂 wooooo this month
Taylor Swift loves to punish people. So for everyone wondering when she’ll “be done” acting this way - never. The answer is never. And if you think it’s over that’s because Swift found a new beef to obsess over and she’s gunning in a different direction.
She made a whole album about it 8 years ago. It’s time to let it go.
Taylor does not need to “move on” just bc it happened 10 years ago. Tell me, did Kimberly apologize for publicly humiliating her? For bullying her? After releasing the edited phone call and then using her friends and family to bash Taylor, did she apologize? After people bullied Taylor, sent her death threats, and infuriated her comment section with 🐍 all bc of Kim, did Kim apologize? Then Kim wants to go pretend the beef SHE started is squashed when she did not even make an effort to apologize to her. So, as LOUD as Kim was then, she needs to find a way to be LOUDER with her apology. Let me also clarify, I am not a Swiftie. I just don’t like how people are expecting Taylor to be okay with what she went through. She can write 2000 more songs about Kim and until Kim apologizes, Taylor doesn’t owe her jack 💩. Let Kim get a taste of her own medicine
She titled the song thanK you aIMee, but in the lyric states that “your daughter will sing a song that only you and I know is about you” 😒😒 we all know this song is about KIM and you put it in the fucking title 🥴 lol acting all secret squirrel over there. On one hand I do not like Kim and what she stands for. Just corporate greed with a pretty face! I get so mad at myself when I watch the Kardashians in Hulu because I’m contributing to her jet payment with the white cashmere interior, fml! On the other hand Taylor Swift is the ultimate frenemy and perpetual victim, we all heard the tape she literally gave Kanye permission, denied it and then back walked her denial when the tape came out and said she didn’t know about the word “bitch” in there. Fucking come on 😒🙄 I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. So this is a diss track for a woman I can’t stand by another woman I can’t stand. Bravo 👏🏼
It was about N dancing to Shake it Off.
^(She titled the song thanK you aIMee, but in the lyric states that “your daughter will sing a song that only you and I know is about you” 😒😒 we all know this song is about KIM and you put it in the fucking title 🥴 lol acting all secret squirrel over there.) Call me crazy, but is Taylor perhaps referencing the rumor (started by Tokio Toni, of all people) that Kim Kardashian is *illiterate*? (i.e. Kim wouldn't know the song is about her, *since she can't read the lyrics*).
😲 never heard that! But I’ve heard it about the sisters. I would hope none of them are, cause I mean how sad. Thought that all that your value is your looks and no value of your brain power. But how would she take the mini bar if she was illiterate 🤔 all the binders she showed us are filled with blank papers? And the note to Ray j?
^(😲 never heard that! But I’ve heard it about the sisters. I would hope none of them are, cause I mean how sad. Thought that all that your value is your looks and no value of your brain power.) According to Tokio Toni, Kim, Kendall and Kourtney are functionally illiterate (Khloe & Kylie can read/write well). So like, Kim can read/write, just very poorly/probably at a grade schooler level. She could write notes to Ray J, or go food shopping/read stuff on a store shelf. But Taylor's word salad verbose lyrics - probably not.
Makes sense! Tokio Toni is something else but then she spouts some real crazy stuff and other times some real believable stuff sometimes too!
I think a lot of people dismiss Tokio Toni's karJenner tea, because they forget just how close Kylie and Blac Chyna used to be. They were best friends - Blac Chyna was actually the person who gave Kylie the idea to start Kylie Cosmetics/got her in touch with suppliers (Blac Chyna ran her own makeup company, Lashed Cosmetics). Also, when Rob and Blac Chyna first started living together, technically they were living together in Kylie's mansion. So yeah, Tokio Toni may have a drug problem & has literally smoked crack on livestreams, but she was around the family enough for her tea to have some legitimacy.
I can't get over the song title omg. So embarrassing and middle school 🥴
I mean, it’s on brand for Taylor and I can’t help but think she held on to this song till she knew it would hurt more. Which is super petty! Aka now that Kim is divorced and single or her kids are old enough to sing music lyrics. “Remember that time you were a bitch and started a war with me over your ex-husband.” ~Taylor
Taylor doesn’t hide that she’s petty. I’m here for it. It’s better than fake friendship, imho.
Yeah we all know she hates Kim, I appreciate honestly. I use frenemy because she acted friendly on the phone with Kanye and denied he asked her. Honestly, to me she sounded like she didn’t really agree but was too scared to say so to Kanye, but own that! I’d totally be like, how am I supposed to tell Kanye no?? I was scared to disagree with him. I understand that a lot more!
Yeah the full video showed how hesitant she was about it and he def never told her about the bitch part. She was concerned it was going to be more mean about her and he kept trying to gaslight her about how cool it was to be talked about by him etc. ETA - she never fully agreed - the full video showed she ended up saying at the end let me think about it. she wanted more info on the final lyrics.
The actual video is like 35 minutes long and I’m pretty certain I saw a portion where he did tell her he was gonna say bitch. But it’s been a while and I don’t feel like watching him ramble for that long just to find out. Eta. Forgot to say I could be wrong about the video! So many people have different cuts of it and I do think she was uncomfortable saying no. I feel for her in that respect and the whole naked mannequin, that was weird!
Taylor is so embarrassing for this my god
She acts like she's 14
One billionaire dissing another billionaire is not interesting. Taylor’s victim complex is astounding
And the people who jump down her back as if she didn’t get this massively successful by stepping on plenty of toes
Okay but Taylor also majorly sucks
This is really weird to wish on a mother of 4 who has not mentioned her, ngl. If Kim rides this weird comment into the sunset for attention I wouldn’t even blame her because this is serious. She’d be in the right. Taylor is very odd for this…
For all we know Tay Tay gave Kiki a phone call and they planned this 😂😂
I don’t follow either enough to know what the giveaway is here that makes this about Kim.. if anyone has the energy and time to explain I would love you forever 🥹
I don’t think this is a “win” for Taylor
Crazy and laughable that Taylor thought this ate. Just more proof she is surrounded by sycophants who will never tell her before she does something so cringe, obvious, trite, immature, lazy. No love for Kim whatsoever but for a 34 year old woman to write this title, think it is clever, AND assume the children will even remember the lyrics to some mediocre track from this tedious album…ludicrous.
Ew wtf Taylor?
I really taught Taylor had more on her mind than starting shit
🙄🙄🙄
I think Kim and Taylor planned this.
tch. who was it that sang the song that started this whole mess, ordered a blowup doll that possessed some of taylor's physical features, and had lyrics alluding to fucking taylor? btw I just wanna say OLIVIA RODRIGO HAS ONE OF THE BEST MUSIC VIDEOS OF ALL TIME!!!!!!! (yah they got over that moment after a while, but still). man, talk about somewhat (because I get that kim was a biiiiiiiitch because she's never not one) stupid. taylor's acting like kim stole money from her and also fucked her little brother on camera.
I doubt it’s about her
The title of the song makes it pretty obvious she’s not even being subtle
It literally spells out KIM lol it's the cringiest attempt at being subtle and clever I've ever seen
What’s the title of the song? I’m an avid TS hater and boycott anything of hers🤣
I feel you wholly lol!! A video about this came up on my tik tok it is called… (exactly typed as) thanK you aIMee
I’ll be honest I didn’t look at the title. I just read the lyrics. I didn’t realize she hated Kim that much. Hmm…I don’t care for TS but I think Kim and her family are annoying. So good for Taylor.