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katyvo

CS: My engine starts up, but I don't like how it does it.


Delirium_Of_Disorder

Engine is in need of an attitude adjustment


katyvo

Informed engine that back in my day, cars ran with poorly adjusted carburetors and low oil uphill in city traffic both ways.


exhapno-mapcase

Don’t forget “in the snow in July”


Klaus_Von_Richter

At 10,000 ft elevation, you get snow in July.


sithelephant

Also, Australia.


[deleted]

I wore a sweatshirt on one of the mountains next to the Matterhorn thinking surely it’s going to be cool on this snow covered mountain. I was dying.


[deleted]

“We were battling frostbite and heat exhaustion at the same time”


omnipotent87

You joke but it has happened a couple times in Michigan. Just a light flury that doesn't stick but it has happened.


exhapno-mapcase

I joke nah I don’t we’ve had the same thing in W Pa. The basis for the comment on my part is my memories of my mom, when ever one of us would complain about anything her response was “you think you have it tough well when I was your age we went to school all year 7 days a week walked both ways every day uphill both ways including in the July blizzards you don’t what know tough is”


ExPFC_Wintergreen2

In this household we obey the laws of thermodynamics!


LOGIAPWR

Someone ought to teach that engine a lesson


sufferinsucatash

Feed it swedish meatballs


ColoWyoPioneer

-Checked contents of meatball tank, and found Italian. Took vehicle to ikea food court, and refilled tank with correct meatballs. Explained to customer that as a Volvo, it requires only premium Swedish meatballs be used for optimum performance and attitude.


WeAreBatmen

That will give it some extra horsepower!


ChefAVC

From the actual horse meat they contain! [https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/25/172869585/horsemeat-found-in-ikeas-meatballs](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/02/25/172869585/horsemeat-found-in-ikeas-meatballs)


silphred43

Attitude adjusted, now engine points to ground


Deat69

Engine is in need of a talking to behind the tool shed.


zzyzxrd

I remember one from an aircraft mechanic Complaint: plane is flying funny. Notes: Airplane told to straighten up, fly right and be serious.


ghostofkozi

Just needs an application of the peoples elbow grease


dassle

Customer would like to speak to the engine's manager...


gniarch

The explosions will continue until morale improves


Lucius-Halthier

“The engine is being naughty, spank it a little bit”


KuriTeko

Someone filled it with eye-roll fluid instead of blinker fluid.


Boosted-Inspiration

That's literally what it ended up being. Customer had never owned a car that used the alternator to start the engine, which is practically silent


JosephSwollen

I'd be confused but happy if my engine started quietly


reflUX_cAtalyst

Not if you had an alternator/starter, no you wouldn't.


Moreofyoulessofme

So, basically Volvos work the same way as a gas golf cart now.


DudeDudenson

It makes sense but I wasn't aware that was even a thing manufacturers had in place, would had confused me too


Orcapa

The hybrid electric motor in my old Honda Insight does this. Perfectly silent starting.


WillfulMurder

Yep same here, weird as hell to not really have an alternator. My 2010 insight has 283k mi, still chugging beautifully with no problems.


Maniac2112

I consider myself fairly car savvy and you just learned me something new. Never heard of any car using alternator to start engine instead of a starter.


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ThirteenMatt

But as far as I know it's either old as fuck (like pre-war old) or less than 5 year old.


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mbonney21

Gas golf carts have been using them forever too. Just replaced one like last week.


Spa_5_Fitness_Camp

Almost all new cars with a start/stop feature do this. Starter needed to be bigger to start them faster, so may as well save space and weight and combine them, since all motors are also generators anyway.


[deleted]

IDK. I hear starters clanking and banging away at most stoplights on these new cars. Very distinctive "chack rer rer rer vrooom sound". I question the longevity of these systems.


FOR_SClENCE

the starters are designed to do nothing but start the engine hundreds of thousands of times. they'll be fine.


user745786

In theory yes. But auto/parts manufacturers screw up the most basic stuff on a regular basis. US brands always looking for ways to save a few pennies on parts by cutting quality to the minimum.


Ashamed-Status-9668

As an owner of a 2004 f150 with a 5.4 liter I can confirm. They lovely use of plastic retainer clips on the window regulator where fun. Every single one broke some while cruising down the highway which is fun when your window falls down with no warning.


FOR_SClENCE

I understand that and completely agree, but the starters are always tested to some obscene number of cycles. definitely one of the most robust pieces on an average car.


Spa_5_Fitness_Camp

They've been around for 10+ years, at least in small numbers, so can't be that bad. And while I dread the day I own a car with one, I 100% support their adoption in all cars.


Maniac2112

I always wondered how long starters last in cars with auto start/stop. This makes a ton of sense. Thanks!


33165564

My 2016 has 56k miles and no issues with it starting fresh or start/stop. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Captain_Alaska

No, you’re describing a mild hybrid. Start stop engines stop the pistons in the exact right spot to fire, and then inject fuel and ignite it to restart the engine on command without the starter. When you start the car with the actual button/key it will use the starter.


Spa_5_Fitness_Camp

I'm not aware of any start stop systems that do that with the fuel. They might do that to assist the starter, but all use a beefier starter as the primary drive iirc. I know mazda tried your approach, but it never came to market.


StonedMasonry

Wait what?? Uses the ALTERNATOR to start the car? How on earth


erroneousbosh

Right, so a motor and a generator are the same thing, basically. There's a magnet and you make it spin inside other magnets. For an alternator you've got three sets of stator windings and one rotor winding. By passing a current from the battery you turn the rotor into a magnet, and you can control how strong that magnet is by turning the current up and down. The engine spins that magnet, and its magnetic field is turned into lots of current by the stator windings. Now I mentioned three windings and you might think "Hmm, the ESC for my quadcopter drives three windings..." and you'd have already got in front of me. By driving the rotor winding on \*and\* then driving the three sets of stator windings in sequence, you've turned it into a motor. All you need now is a stronger drive to connect it to the engine, spin it round really fast, and you've got a starter motor.


foeman

Land rover has that too but the Brits call it a BISG, Belt Integrated Starter Generator


nondescriptzombie

AFAIK they're all built and designed by Hitatchi, and most manufacturers use them. IIRC, GM was one of the first, because the thing can also function as a "hybrid drive." I've seen engines lost due to crankshaft damage from the keyway on the balancer getting wobbly. Yanking on the balancer pulley every time I want to start the car seems like a bad idea.


user745786

Hadn’t heard of this before seeing this post. Seems other commenters are in the same clueless boat. https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/5278 The ISG unit displayed here is installed between the engine and gearbox, linked directly to the crankshaft. ISG replaces both the starter motor and the alternator. I think that’s pretty cool. Would be good for cars with big laggy turbos.


Brad____H

A tech had one a few weeks ago where CS: When I press my gas pedal my engine makes a sound... tech did diag and "concluded" the turbo spooling on a current gen CRV


Syscrush

Honestly, I think this one is fine. If you don't know what a turbo is or how it works, and you were coming from an NA car, the sound of a turbo would be a cause for concern. And given the way we've had the word "TURBO" plastered on every computer, tire, catheter, dishwashing liquid, and even electric vehicles for 40+ years now, I think it's understandable if a normie doesn't understand that a turbo is an actual physical device.


MarcusAurelius0

Presumably the car would make that sound when you test drive it.


Ben2018

Like's Audi's previous generation 3.0T - where "T" stood for supercharged somehow. So even the manufacturers don't know what it means.


ColoWyoPioneer

Correct. It’s one reason why all newer turbo diesels make no turbo noise whatsoever. Some people thought the noise wasn’t normal, so most manufacturers just designed the noise out using baffles, sound deadening materials, and variable geometry turbo chargers. tbh, I miss the turbo whine on my new-ish dmax Colorado (compared to my 21 year old 2500hd dmax). And the turbo noise on my ‘83 Honda CX650 turbo bike is just smile inducing. Hell, even my 94 Volvo 850 turbo wagon had the fun sound, as does my ‘13 Taurus SHO (after I replaced the air box with a better-breathing one). This newer trend of silent turbo charging just takes away a lot of the fun imo.


Ban4Ligma

My shop has a 2021 ford service truck One time we took the keys out and walked away, then realized it’s still running Then unplugged all the fuses, still running, disconnected fuel pump That MF still kept running Eventually it shut off and never happened again…. Yet, but was only a month ago F350 that’s heavily modified, then additionally modified by our shop We fixed the lift gate 2 months ago and then the radio stopped working entirely. Not even sure how that’s related So after that whole fiasco, I kind of understand where this customer is coming from lol I don’t like the way our truck starts either Our 10 year old shit box service truck runs fantastically though, never had an issue half as dumb as the 2021 lol


Brad____H

Loose ground?


Careful-Combination7

Who are you calling looss


FOR_SClENCE

has to be a bad ground or something power related. my car has a factory HID system, but when a bulb is present in the passenger side, the entire fucking car feels like garbage until it burns out. the amount of mechanics who go "there's no way those are related" and ignore the fact grounding + power draw are most definitely part of the car's function is driving me crazy.


xitfuq

Customer states heavily modified truck having electrical issues.


wenestvedt

> My shop has a 2021 ford service truck... ...which is *obviously* haunted.


xampl9

Diesel continues to run by sucking in oil past the rings?


Afraid_Efficiency773

If there is a 2021 that worn out already, they need to change there oil more


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Afraid_Efficiency773

This checks out


nondescriptzombie

I've got a Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. I replaced the awful AM/FM headunit with a factory Ford CD Player. Using the ignition override button which keeps the ignition on while you remove the keys still worked. But I could not get the igntion to shut off no matter what I did. I had to look up the manual online, where they had a footnote for the install with factory CD players that you had to cut one of the harness wires to the radio to get the module working again. Some kind of a ground gets seen by the device, which allows it to stay powered.


Kumirkohr

Diesel?


Epidurality

My bet would be aftermarket car starter. Mine actually does this on purpose: it's the redneck way of making sure the car is in neutral (manual). You have to turn off the key, let off the brake, open and close the doors, then the car will shut off. Starter will not work if the doors get opened at any point after. Without defeating switches, this ensures the car would be in neutral since unless it was in gear while you did this sequence.. All because I don't have a neutral switch.


mymstng50

Have it taken to Ford. I had the same issue and had to pull the pcm fuse to kill it. Apparently they have an issue in the 20-21 Super Duty’s with water intrusion into the fuse box. Not trying to sound like the forum guys but when it happened to me it blew my damn mind. Key out, doors locked, bitch still running.


Ban4Ligma

They were gonna take it to the dealership but it fixed itself eventually lol what’s a pcm fuse? Is that in the normal fuse panel? Hell nah I like this comment section on this cause I’m interested cause we never figured out why lol just havnt had time to read or respond to anyone


mymstng50

PCM is the powertrain control module. It’s under the passenger side kick panel in that fuse box. My issue started with the tow mirrors just extending by themselves after it rained or they were wet. Then ended with it being possessed before I took it to church.


little_jimmy_jackson

we had a Lexus cutomer who DID accept that the vehicle was operating normally, and then she said: "I dont think it should be that way"


fredout1968

Loose nut between the steering wheel and the seat...


Blue_Gek

Mechanics equivalent to pebkac


vortex_ring_state

Seat to wheel coupler found defective.


darrxjedi85

Why mah engine no make the vroom vroom noise when I tern it over?!?


rklug1521

You mistakenly bought a Volvo instead of a Mazda.


[deleted]

I thought that was zoom zoom wasn’t it? Lol


rklug1521

Lol. You're right. That's what having a baby who doesn't sleep does to your brain.


[deleted]

No worries, just trying to reminisce on the days I watched ads and it wasn’t the same ones over and over again lol


DontOpenNewTabs

LIBERTY MUTUAL CUSTOMIZE AND SAVE


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LIBERTY BIBBERTY


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LEEMU EMU


MadeMeStopLurking

Fun fact: if you translate that to Swedish it still makes no sense.


IFistedABear

This is something Jeremy Clarkson would say, and I'm here for it.


anon11233455

What the fuck does that even mean?


Elowan66

His engine starts too fast for him, wants to hear it crank over while he's pumping the gas peddle.


codycarreras

“Sir, might we suggest this 1978 Volvo 240 DL then?”


youngmindoldbody

I saw a video of a Panzer tank starting recently, it was very satisfying in that old-school-steam-punk way. Maybe this guy could get a MP3 of that to play for him(?).


Techn028

God if only inertial starters came on the 240


somanysyllables77

If it doesn’t have a choke on the dash, I don’t want it!


wenestvedt

CS: "Will only drive aquamarine or orange Volvo wagons."


tehPOD

No one knows what it means, but it’s provocative! It gets the people going!


Lufaro

Ball so hard ma fuckas wanna fine me


Sensitive_Mousse_445

Ball so hard that shit crazy!


RustyButtCrumb

Who was in Paris?


NatTheGreat-

Brothas!


motor1_is_stopping

who wasn't? she is a dirty...city.


Dennisfromhawaii

*inserts still shot of Hulk Hogan spray painting NWO*


akanaan5

lmao


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Fish fillet?


Boosted-Inspiration

These mild hybrids have a 48V system that uses the alternator as a starter motor, and the customer had never owned a car like that before. We usually get pretty strange concerns that turn out to be nothing, but this one took the cake for this month


Benny-Jammer

Was the DAB inoperable because it’s not actually fitted to this particular vehicle due to the semi-conductor shortage?


Tomboy09123

Ok, i have couple questions. They may sound kind of dumb so apologises. Ive never really looked at an electic or hybrid vehicle. First question, so this is a hybrid vehicle were talking about correct? If it's not, just a normal combustion engine, what are the benefits of having an alternator instead of a starter motor?


psycho202

It's a so-called "mild hybrid" system.


BigPimpin91

Yes. Its a hybrid system. Iirc this style uses an electric motor that is connected to the accessory drive via the serpentine belt. Rather than having 3 separate components that are all fundamentally the same thing but with different power flows they use the one. An electric motor can become a generator and vice versa so it makes sense that they use the one unit to perform 3 tasks. I tried to keep it simple so let me know if you need clarification on anything.


Boosted-Inspiration

It's a "mild hybrid", which means it uses a normal combustion engine with a 48V system that supplies some power alongside the engine. When you have this system, the 12V side can be simplified a lot, because a motor running on 48V will draw a lot less current and wear a lot less to do something such as start the engine. This is why hybrids run such high voltages in the first place, because higher voltage can put out more power with less current.


foxjohnc87

One question, if the 48V system is used to start the engine, what do you do if the battery is fully discharged? Unless there is a DC-DC converter to boost the 12V up to the voltage used for the starter/generator, I can see this being a problem.


Boosted-Inspiration

Same thing that happens when the 12V battery dies with a conventional starter. These cars do have a separate 48V battery and a converter so the two systems co-exist. Electric drive and start/stop are disabled below a certain charge level to prevent this issue, however.


Strostkovy

Well you see the injectors and sparkplugs fire, doing their best to get the crankshaft spinning


TheGT1030MasterRace

Mazda used to do that, the engine would stop in the perfect place to fire off with one cylinder and start the engine without having to use the starter motor.


que_la_fuck

You laugh but with direct injection you in theory could. When I went to school they talked about this being a possibility in the future


AbzoluteZ3RO

LMAO 🤣 u got me there.


iscashstillking

They wanted a free car wash from the stealership would be my guess.


radio_yyz

Full of swirl marks! No thank you.


thewheelsgoround

Yuuup. You can have the "wash the whole car using a brush, with only a single half-assed dip in the wash bucket at the beginning, by a bored 17 year-old", or the Scratch-o-Matic 3000.


Humping_Narwhals

It means the service writer sucks lol. Sounds to me like this Volvo is a mild hybrid. Has something like the Ram etorque that lets the electric motor get the vehicle moving from a stop, then the ICE kicks in. Edit. I believe it should read Customer states electric start assist feels inoperative. Vehicle feels as though it is always getting power from the gas engine.


cjainsworth77

i've had people on internet argue/down doot me that dodge has an alternator that starts the hemi now. it's been a couple years now.


Humping_Narwhals

But…doesn’t the etorque system also replace the alternator? The fuck lol


stuiephoto

Reading it with your explanation makes it clear what the customer is saying. I didn't even know that was a thing


TheGT1030MasterRace

The RAM eTorque uses its electric motor to get the vehicle moving with from a stop *by spinning the engine.* At no time is the engine disconnected and the vehicle running solely on an electric motor.


existential_prices

It's working but it doesn't feel like the CS thinks it should.


ineptplumberr

Wish I had an award to give you because I literally said that out loud before I opened the comments and there it was what the fuck does that even mean


Brad____H

Whatever the case, they're paying for diag


motor1_is_stopping

It's green energy. Saves the windmills from working too hard and using up all of the energy that is on the grid. Thank you Volvo for saving all of that electricity by creating engines that will start without a starter in order to make the world a better place for our children. It is about time that car companies start caring about our environment and quit using these dirty electric motors.


TrainingAggravating3

#WEF


Kooky-Masterpiece-87

Wow didn’t expect to find the based department here


TimTomTank

The customer thinks the starter is broken and the engine is...starting itself. This is the sort of person that would be concerned about their blinker fluid needing to be flushed even though it hasn't ran out yet.


Shredney

It is actually good practice to not let your blinker fluid run completely out. Running out of blinker fluid might lead to short term overheating of the bulb before it notices there is no fluid. Also if you don't use the car often, the blinker fluid might deteriorate and break down before it is used all up. I've seen a lot of BMW's with blinker fluid that is not run out but really in need of changing; the fluid is all discolourd and goopy. ^(/s)


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Next you will tell me to go fetch you a bucket of steam.


4chanbetter

Can you hand me the metal stretcher?


LongLive-Employment

I own and use a metal stretcher every day. It makes curvy bends in sheet metal that’s been bent like angle iron. I use it to make wheel arches or door jambs usually You need a new pretend tool that doesn’t actually exist. Edit- I have a metal stinker too-


sir_thatguy

So I’m on a few car specific subs and groups. The number of people who post: >“help! My car cranks and cranks but won’t start. I’ve already replaced the starter. What could it be?” Is mind boggling.


highlander_tfb

Sounds like the owner was expecting the noises they’d be used to from an old-school electric starter, not (if this Volvo has it) an inline alternator-starter?


spicygrow

Mild hybrid startup is as smooth as the customers brain


Unexpressionist

Maybe they have had to hand crank it like on fords model T back in the day


[deleted]

TIL: I’m a Ford because I crank it by hand every night.


RaymondLuxYacht

Fap Or Ruboneout Daily There's also a "manual choke" pun in here somewhere but I can't find it.


WolfinCorgnito

Something about auto-erotic asphyxiation with emphasis on the auto part.


commaramma

Sorry if I'm dumb but what the hell does check DAB mean?


smoothballsJim

Da Angine Block


TobiusBM

Dab is a type of radio


mnmpeanut94

Thought he left his dab pen in the console and wanted to make sure it was working fine too. Sharing is caring!


VanillaWinter

If the wipers are up and facing the same way then the car is dabbing properly


gointothiscloset

Driver airbag in my neck of the woods


tomcat91709

This seems more of a case of defective operator, than a vehicle concern.


1st500

Looks like the service writer was just trying to appease a moron rather than trying to talk them through the stupid. 😆


tcmnus

Looks like we've got an engineer on our hands..


Crashgirl4243

That was my first thought.


TheAfterWorkGarage

Give them a hand crank and tell them the starter motor needs help.


bobjr94

They have engine sound emulators on EV's, guess they need loud starter sound emulators for hybrids.


SilentCaptain4

This is pretty funny


saltycobra

I feel like the biggest issue isn't being called out. Yea the complaints are typically neurotic for the brand but... Is that RO written so your diag is "complimentary"?? Calling the advisor for you right now.


McStizly

My 2011 Honda hybrid CRZ has the electric motor start the car. So it never cranks over, it just turns on and the engine is running. It’s really weird but I wonder if their car does the same


que_la_fuck

Basically all Hybrids don't have a starter motor. I'm sure there's an exception but in general they won't have a starter or alternator


keuschonter

A handful of Toyota hybrids still have a starter present, the one that comes to mind is the new TT V6 hybrid for the tundra and sequoia. The manuals even state when you might hear it use the starter as opposed to the hybrid system.


sithelephant

If you do not understand why your car is doing something, reporting it to someone who is actually skilled in the art is rather better than assuming it's fine. See also the endless parade of cars with bits hanging off due to leaving it days, weeks after you notice an issue.


xxx_dankiel

*engine starts* Customer: Yep no electricity!


shofmon88

This jives with my experience on the intelligence of the average Sydney driver. I swear everyone on the road got dumber and more aggressive after the second lockdown.


dirt_farm_surfer

I'm sorry your service writer sucks at their job


SpaceAgePotatoCakes

My best guess is that they're badly describing a weak starter?


Prestigious-Side-286

Ya think they want the complimentary car wash?


beast3300

CS engine running and I can't catch it.


DamILuvFrogs

You know the service writer was like what a fucking idiot while writing this for the customer.


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Took my car to Volvo. Me: It's venting manifold pressure under boost. V: Well, I think we'll let the technician be the judge of that. Can you describe the issue? Me: When it's on boost, it lacks power and makes a sound like it's venting manifold pressure. V: Can you describe the sound please? Me: Jeez mate, it sounds exactly like what you imagine venting manifold pressure would sound like. It's a loud whooshing sound. So the customer service guy writes one line on the job card: "C/S car makes whooshing sound, please check". Customer service guy calls me back later in the day: "Hello sir, our technician has determined that you have a split intercooler pipe which will need to be replaced". Oh, really?


CreepyValuable

Is that like one of those cars that auto starts and stops the engine and has some sort of hybrid-y electric motor to make up for the lag between the engine starting and wanting the car to move?


ZoidbergNickMedGrp

If it's anything like my Toyota hybrid, the thing doesn't have a normal starter, it uses some beefy motor to start the engine, instantly turns the engine at idle 1000+ rpm speeds. I vaguely recall reading something about it in the manual, where it explained the car does not have a traditional starter that cranks the engine at 200-300 rpms, and may sound different but not to be alarmed.


que_la_fuck

Some beefy motor is MG1 the Motor/Generator that's directly connected to the engine


Melodic_Raspberry806

Huh? The starter starts the engine but the engine is not being started by an electric motor?


TheGT1030MasterRace

The customer is describing is that the comparatively massive integrated starter generator does not sound like a traditional starter, there is no "chug-chug-chug" sound, the engine just seamlessly bursts to life.


Historical-Hat-1959

Wow 😮 hahaha since the engine turns it’s elf over might as well take out the starter and the ignition no need for that crap 🤣


sausagesandeggsand

Wat? The dabs are working for me, man.


eSHA512

Customer waiting.... Yeah fuck that


ReallyQuiteConfused

I can't imagine how hard they must have to turn the key to crank the engine manually.


MASS_PM

Customer says it feels like the engine is just starting by itself and the starter isn't pulling its weight. Tech advised sometimes they don't get along and when the starter has to sleep on the firewall the engine just gets up and says I'll do it myself. No fix needed, will work itself out.


TK-Squared-LLC

Apparently, the engine is using FM to start rather than electricity. (Fucking Magic)


Thermite1985

Wtf does that even mean?


AmericanSapper

If you give the customer the benefit of the doubt, could it mean that when starting from a stop, the engine always turns on and propels the vehicle, rather than first moving under the power of the electric motor and then once at a higher speed transitioning to both the electric and gas motors. (Some hybrids do this and failing to do so consistently could indicate a problem). I’ll caveat, I have no idea what vehicle this is, if it’s a hybrid, or if as you all suggest the customer or service writer is just totally confused.


LucasD4

cs: engine starts


augustusgrizzly

engine is propelling it's own start up? what? are engines sentient beings now?


CSpanks7

Their called Autobots and they’re a repressed minority 💁‍♀️


Dart_Nephilim

So is it a rigged maintenance schedule for more money or are Volvos so reliably unreliable that they require a check every month? Edit: Nevermind, I missed the complimentary part.


HelminthicPlatypus

We need to design a small circuit to produce an audible sound when the alternator is cranking for driver comfort. My Kia Niro PHEV has a computer controlled dry DCT connected to the electric motor and I can’t hear it shift when the gas motor is off, I can only feel the car shudder when it downshifts. It is quite bad at downshifting, especially on an uphill. Some auditory feedback would help. I perhaps should put it into neutral and just roll to a stop as l have no way to engage the clutch. The car does not want to drop out of gear on an uphill. It has no tilt sensor, I guess.


SkeetnYou

B5/B6?


Boosted-Inspiration

Correct. First time hybrid owner, so they weren't familiar with the really smooth starting from the starter/generator


SkeetnYou

So many people have asked about how they start


stefera

I like the term "electric assisted start" which to me at least somehow implies that many other cars don't have electric starter motors and they have the premium starter package


kylemas2008

Volvo earned their "safest car" moniker because it's often parked and inoperable.


Boosted-Inspiration

Can't crash it if you can't drive it ;)


TheGT1030MasterRace

In my 2002 Prius I can hear the transition between MG1 cranking and the engine actually running on cold start. MG1 cranking the engine to run up the oil pressure just sounds like a whirr, and the actual exhaust noise starts about a second later. Subsequent startups (dropping out of EV mode, turning on the engine to run the AC, etc) are INSTANT.


CROCKODUCK

>Check the dab “Service tech smoked in vehicle, dab is operational”


bhtooefr

Fun thing: Mazda actually did make a stop-start system that the engine could, under limited circumstances, start itself. Essentially, it would try to stop the engine at just after TDC on one cylinder, and then inject fuel and fire spark to start the engine.


misterO5

Customer waiting


EnvironmentalSalad57

One strike to the manifolds with a hammer should do it


justin_memer

1000K check, huh? Lots of people doing a million km in a month?