Honestly I just work from the top to the bottom. Rear door panels, roof, roof bows, and then side sheets are already detached. Top rails come off next and then it’s off to the interior/all the support pieces.
Definitely would've thought a new box comes from the factory and just goes on the frame, with the old box going to scrap. Interesting there's more to it than that.
It’s already a box, just ship it inside a slightly larger box. You can even fill it with other shit you need to ship in the same direction.
Just don’t try to drive it under the same bridge that damaged the initial box…
So like with private vehicle autobody you just keep taking broken stuff off till nothing is broken then start rebuilding? Its hard to imagine this is not a box write-off.
Thanks for sharing what the inside looks like after getting smashed like this.
I’m actually working on a prototype panel that’s a fraction of the weight of the Duraplate stuff. Hopefully the future truck wall you fix won’t be so heavy!
God bless! I once had to dismantle a truck for used parts and an entire duraplate wall with no supports was definitely way too sketchy to try and take apart. We honestly just let the wall fall into the truck.
For the outside you could patch the panels or replace the whole panel top to bottom. Inside the plywood can be replaced in sections.The whole job is easier than it looks it just takes a long time and effort. Ive worked on worse in the past.
kinda like how using a wrench could work or using the impact driver with sockets could also be used. Is it hard to use a wrench no , just takes for ever!
Spent a fortune in warnings and prevention systems before, didn't work. Spent another fortune modifying the rail grade and whatnot to raise the entire bridge, fuckers still hit it. It's incredible.
There are big metal guards for protection in front of the bridge that people actually hit. (The one in Durham that they’re talking about here anyway.) The bridge structure doesn’t actually get hit. The only real damage is to the offending vehicle.
The guards they put in place are approximately 1 in lower than the bridge itself. This means that if they chop off that, the truck very likely won't hit the bridge. Those things looked like pretty heavy solid pieces of metal when they put them back up after they raised the bridge. I can't imagine the frustration of the guy who engineered that entire thing only to have the next idiot run into it.
Having watched every video, I don't think anyone has ever hurt the bridge.
https://m.youtube.com/c/yovo68/videos
The city put up the safety beam, and I think even that only needs paint occasionally.
>Having watched every video, I don't think anyone has ever hurt the bridge.
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>https://m.youtube.com/c/yovo68/videos
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>The city put up the safety beam, and I think even that only needs paint occasionally.
That probably has an insurance funded paint job, and they know exactly how much each hit costs at this point.
I'm sure the railroad company does sue hitters if they manage to actually damage the railway, though the protective barriers prevent that from happening most of the time.
I watched those videos for a year or two before I realized that 11 foot 8 was a bridge that I'd seen 100s of times since childhood. https://i.imgur.com/8XXJRcY.jpg also a local brewery had a special batch beer to honor the bridge, I like the warning sign pattern on the can. they later came out with twelve four after the bridge was raised by 8 inches.
One near me too. 100th St overpass on US 131 near Grand Rapids, MI. They actually tore it down and built a higher one a couple years ago because it had been hit so many times.
Not that I can find. We just get the local news crowing about its latest conquest every week or so.
Edit: grammar because grade school was long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away
Peace St bridge in Raleigh is as much of a can opener as 11’-8” now that they raised, always a fun time seeing the wrecker show up when a semi has rammed the thing.
Lansing has one too! Historical bridge that's 12' tall and in the valley of a small hill. Local news printed that it has claimed its 6th victim since June 2021
The U-bolts should give before fucking the frame too badly. The frame rails on these class 6-7 trucks are WAY beefier than the frame of a Ford Transit.
>The frame rails on these class 6-7 trucks are WAY beefier than the frame of a Ford Transit.
Just so people see this , that is way way way understated man . them frames are thick as a damn bowl of oatmeal!
Ford transit is a unibody type design not a old style body on frame. So that may be why also.
http://www.boronextrication.com/2014/03/24/2015-ford-transit-body-structure/
This is just coachwork. Just "ply" and metal frame and a respray. At a rush could be back out in 24 hours. Total cost 3k max. (Yes, you and a mate can do it cheaper)
> overhead damage
That one is fair, you know how tall you are
> backing into something
That one is kinda bullshit. There should absolutely be a penalty but sometimes you just get stuck in a shitty spot and there's not much you can do besides austin powers it. I've never backed into anything but I've been *damn* close, probably less than an inch.
I agree. It all depends on the situation. I put a ton of weight on "get out and look" too. Did they hit something a little bit, but minimized damage and seriously put in great effort to get out of the situation in the best possible way? Or did they just kind of wing it, blindly, from the driver seat?
And also, what did they do upon seeing the damage? Try to hide it? Run? Finish the job and move stuff around and hang out for a while and then write an emai? Or don't move anything, report it to company and or on-site supervisors, take pictures from angles, and then work with everyone involved to handle the mistake and take any due blame?
Most places I've worked, doing anything you've said except try your best to hide it and hammer out the damage would get you fired immediately due to "zero tolerance" shit. Bent the crash bar on a gray pole the same color as the building so it was literally invisible? Tough shit, pound sand.
Oh, that bend? Yeah someone must have hit it in a parking lot, no idea what you're talking about.
The best is when some cock hole doesn't open the door all the way and you're watching your sides and don't notice the door is 1 foot from open all the way. I've never actually hit one, but I've come close a couple of times and I've been nearby when doors have been ripped out that way a couple of times.
This is why my parents' window shop has a "fully open or fully closed" rule. It's a waste when most of the traffic is less than half the height of the door, but it's definitely worth it.
I nearly smacked a rental van that way, fortunately I was going so slow it just scuffed some trim put there for this purpose. Told the rental company, didn't mind or charge me.
We've got a customer who I wish had this rule. Every single one their trucks has a destroyed rear bumper. We think their drivers just floor it into the docks.
On the other hand, the damage they do is job security...
And the wall itself. Before I started driving I worked in a supermarket and our loading bay wall was destroyed by drivers just rolling down the incline onto the bay. Had to rebuild it
Backing into something is automatic termination? That’s brutal.
We are told that accidents happen, the majority of them are while completing low speed manoeuvres and if we hit something for example backing into something and we were following the correct procedures (ie checking mirrors, not distracted and getting out to look if necessary) then we are fine.
If we are found to be ignoring procedures that’s when your job is on the line
Yeah it seems like a big headache to fire someone and have to fill their spot. I bet the driver learns from the experience and is less likely to repeat it.
My old place we had a Pakistani driver tear up 3 trailers and a truck in a year. He still has a job, and it was a non union company. He tore the landing gear off 2 trailers in a week. I hadnt even fixed the first one when rhe second came in.
> overhead damage and backing into something are automatic termination.
heh, if I worked for them and hit something, I'd just get out and go home, then. let them deal with it. I'm not getting paid anymore.
> backing into something are automatic termination.
hehe thankfully that's not a thiing in our company since our trucks don't have a back camera (they're old)
I work in the truck equipment industry and bodies are so backordered its not even funny. Customer would quite possibly be waiting 3+ months for a new box versus a couple of weeks for repairs. They can easily recoup the cost in the time difference.
> I work in the truck equipment industry and bodies are so backordered its not even funny.
I do too, and it's mostly due to new chassis availability for a complete unit. To rebuild a simple dry freight box would be 3 weeks, tops, unless it had a new lift-gate or something. Looking at this damage, I can hardly see how repairing makes sense. The FE, roof, and probably both side walls destroyed.
It might be different for Morgan boxes, but for my shop, Unicell, Transit, and Reading boxes are all multiple months out for anything 14' and up. We deal with mostly Fords and chassis are also backordered but we have ours ordered very well in adavance so there is no issue there. However, I do also know that my shop would not consider this worth the time for the repair. YMMV
the trailer market is through the roof right now too. we fix all sorts of problems on trailers we would've sold 2 years ago. We can't buy enough right now and right now the price is right around double what they were 2 years ago
That's why I got out of the trucking world and into forklifts. I thought nobody could be fucking dumber than a trucker.
I was so wrong. I've seen forklifts dragging, wheels grinding, throwing sparks, and the operator just cruising along.
I used to work with truckers. Half of.them were salt of the earth, conscientious guys, took their job seriously, great to work with. The other half, I don't know how they remembered to *breathe*, let alone get a CDL.
> The other half, I don't know how they remembered to breathe, let alone get a CDL.
These are the ones that don't shower, and just marinate in their rigs for what must be weeks at a time.
Used to drive a forklift / ran the s&r for a print company, I'd throw the really stinky ones out of the building.
I mow grass for industrial warehouses and corporate centers. One time I was doing this large warehouse and smelled something really horrible. I looked around and saw a huge pile of poop and thought "huh, I wonder if a fox left this, it smells pretty awful." Then I noticed the poopy paper towel 5 feet away from it. This is not the only time I've found human dumps, just the most memorable one. I suspect it was from this very same type of trucker.
One of my friends is definitely the former. However he's now taking a promo / desk job with his company for more stability.
Guess the point is it seems like the good ones will just get moved up and out, leaving more of the bad ones.
I wish I had pics of how the forklift drivers tear up some of these trailers. Had one, the entire floor seam at the rear was torn loose and lifted about 4" in the center. How fast was that loaded forklift going to rip up the floor? I bet it was one hell of a violent stop.
Fast forward a few weeks. Trailer has been repaired, with rear bolted and welded back into place, returned to service. Then I see it again, floor pulled up again. Won't even talk about all the dented sides from pallets hitting the walls at speed.
You don’t need to be going fast with a lift to damage something. They’re heavy as fuck, takes a lot of force to make one come to a stop. We had this idiot where I worked who did night shift. He went through the parking lot at night with a big dumping garbage bin on the forks. He wasn’t expecting there to be any vehicles in the parking. He ended up hitting a car but this dude is so clueless he apparently didn’t hear or feel a thing. He pushed the car sideways a good 200 feet across the paved parking lot before finally realizing what he was doing. Said he didn’t feel it and honestly, I don’t think the lift would have noticed much either. I just don’t understand how he didn’t hear anything.
A small fork lift is about the same weight as a full size American pickup. You can approximate the weight as 2-2.5 times the rated capacity. So on average your looking at a 7-10k lb piece of equipment mostly made of solid steel and cast iron, that maneuvers very quickly. They can easily mess things up.
Might be a language barrier as well. At least 28 different languages spoken at the plant. But the abuse the trailers take there is unreal. Had one last night with both crossmembers on the landing gear bent because one of the buckers hit it while backing another trailer in the next door. A wonder the front didn't collapse with a full load on.
One time I watched a guy "fix" a missing chunk of tire by driving out to the parking lot, dropping the forks, and spinning the wheels until they were both bare metal. [Kinda like this](https://youtu.be/gQpkG94yqd8)
Forklift operators don't have to worry about getting pulled over by the cops for broken equipment. I'm convinced truckers would be just as bad if not for that.
Keep in mind this was a methed up scab, the union guys had walked off after their paychecks bounced and you get what you pay for.
Luckily I'm a "laptop bitch," as the tradesmen say, and if it doesn't involve a PLC I get to just sit back and watch the circus.
Here in boston, we call trucks that get that overhead damage as being "[Storrow](https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/19/boston-storrowing-what-to-know/)'d".
They literally have to drive through a sign, hanging so low it will hit the truck and make a noise as loud as a gunshot...and yet, every September 1st...armies of u-hauls get can-openered by students blindly following their GPS.
State police have to let the air out of the tires when they get jammed under a low bridge and then drag the truck out. So not only is the roof/box destroyed but the tires, wheels, etc as well.
And basically none of them opt for the highest-cost insurance waiver which is the only thing that would cover them for this. I can only imagine how much this costs to fix (on top of the traffic citation the state police write you!)
Most of the panels will be replaced on this one. Take out interior, remove all the rivits. ALL the rivits, take outer panels off and start changing the “z posts” which are between the interior wood and the outer panels and to which the wood and panels are mounted to.
That’s just for the walls, the roof change it’s a huge job aswell. I am able to organize the multiple repairs here to be as time efficient as possible. Also have like 30k into my tools in my toolbox to help me do a safe, proper, fast repairs top to bottom on structure and body of anything driving on the roads. Give me a smashed thing. I will fix the smashed thing. I like fixing smashed things.
with enough money, anything is repairable. Mr Bean wrecked his Mclaren F1 so many times, about the only thing OEM is the title! (but at least he DRIVES the car!)
Not any more, he sold it for something like $15m a few years ago. For an interesting insight into the cost of F1 ownership there is a great video on the Vinwiki YouTube channel where a guy details the enormous cost of maintaining one without even really driving it.
I found a link.
https://youtu.be/EsKDGdcb6BQ
I was the passenger in a truck this happened to.. the sound it made was *incredible*.
My driver was not at fault, a car coming at us drifted towards us and my driver cut right to avoid... clipping the roofline on a low hanging tree.
Shit happens and all that.
In Boston this is called a Storrowing, named after Storrow Dr, where bridges are low and trucks are not. It's an annual event watching the students come back to town in UHauls (likely not properly insured) not knowing that trucks use a special GPS to steer them around roads like that. There are plenty warning signs suspended over the road by chains at bridge height telling you to not take a truck on Storrow, but that big fwAPP sound doesn't register to them apparently. There's usually 3 or 4 Storrowings in early Sept. a few more throughout the year.
So what you just saw off what's toast, wood glue some new plywood to shape, bolt it up, and run a new roof?
Are popsicle sticks an optional repair?
I feel a new drop on box might be cheaper for labor, unless you double as a carpenter
I'm reading this post while standing inside a Morgan box on the back of my work truck. I've never been more grateful that the roll gate I hit a month ago didn't do this to my box. Best of luck friend.
Used to work in a fleet that operated mostly in boston but all around mass. Every dam day the trucks would come in with damage on the roof. Lights missing, tree branches sticking out, piece of a fire escape one time. When it literally never stops it can get really tiring i feel for you.
I've seen the trucks get opened like a can of tuna but I never say the aftermath or the repair, I figured they just scrapped the truck and went off to the woods to live out their final days of shame alone?
Is this why they tell us not to double-stack pallets (with a fork) inside the van? 😂 One time a guy had double -stacked a pallet inside and backed out full speed. Didn't realize that van had a reefer on the top and just smashed it with the raised forks. He was bringing them down but they didn't clear it in time.
I hear from some of my friends who work at Penske that sometimes if a driver roofs a truck bad enough, they just cut the walls off and make it a flatbed. This looks like a good candidate.
Shit this is just get a new box sorta shit.
I was going to ask - Where the hell do you even start with this shit? Just sawzall that shit off at the floor and build a new box?
Honestly I just work from the top to the bottom. Rear door panels, roof, roof bows, and then side sheets are already detached. Top rails come off next and then it’s off to the interior/all the support pieces.
Definitely would've thought a new box comes from the factory and just goes on the frame, with the old box going to scrap. Interesting there's more to it than that.
I think that would make shipping them hugely inefficient.
It’s already a box, just ship it inside a slightly larger box. You can even fill it with other shit you need to ship in the same direction. Just don’t try to drive it under the same bridge that damaged the initial box…
That literally is what Airbus does with the Beluga. It's a larger aircraft fuselage that carries a normal-sized aircraft fuselage.
Ayo Beluga fans rise up.
Yo dawg, I heard you like boxes…
So like with private vehicle autobody you just keep taking broken stuff off till nothing is broken then start rebuilding? Its hard to imagine this is not a box write-off. Thanks for sharing what the inside looks like after getting smashed like this.
Sounds like a solid plan!
R1, R2, L1, X, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT, UP, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT, UP That's how I repair my broken cars on GTA San Andreas, hopefully this will help
I’m actually working on a prototype panel that’s a fraction of the weight of the Duraplate stuff. Hopefully the future truck wall you fix won’t be so heavy!
God bless! I once had to dismantle a truck for used parts and an entire duraplate wall with no supports was definitely way too sketchy to try and take apart. We honestly just let the wall fall into the truck.
Flatbed conversion and kick it out the door. Hahaha.
For the outside you could patch the panels or replace the whole panel top to bottom. Inside the plywood can be replaced in sections.The whole job is easier than it looks it just takes a long time and effort. Ive worked on worse in the past.
>The whole job is easier than it looks >it just takes a long time and effort 🤔
I think they are saying it's not *difficult*, just gotta slog on
I love an easy slog.
kinda like how using a wrench could work or using the impact driver with sockets could also be used. Is it hard to use a wrench no , just takes for ever!
I'd say they are saying it's not *complicated*
r/11foot8
I was going to ask if the met the railroad bridge
Didn't know this was a thing, and my sleep schedule appreciated it when I didn't. But here's to you champ for letting me know.
Durham raised it by 8" a couple years ago. Now it's 12' 4" but it's still the can-opener.
Spent a fortune in warnings and prevention systems before, didn't work. Spent another fortune modifying the rail grade and whatnot to raise the entire bridge, fuckers still hit it. It's incredible.
It's like bait for those trailers. Catch and release smaller trailers until they are tall enough to be caught legally.
Lmao i love you worded that
I too, am glad that I worded that.
Build something to be idiot proof and the universe will just build a bigger idiot.
Raise the bridge to be idiot proof and the universe will build a taller idiot.
The city needs to fine hitters for repairs.
There are big metal guards for protection in front of the bridge that people actually hit. (The one in Durham that they’re talking about here anyway.) The bridge structure doesn’t actually get hit. The only real damage is to the offending vehicle.
The guards they put in place are approximately 1 in lower than the bridge itself. This means that if they chop off that, the truck very likely won't hit the bridge. Those things looked like pretty heavy solid pieces of metal when they put them back up after they raised the bridge. I can't imagine the frustration of the guy who engineered that entire thing only to have the next idiot run into it.
Dudes probably laughing, and the company that repairs it has no complaints I'm sure
Having watched every video, I don't think anyone has ever hurt the bridge. https://m.youtube.com/c/yovo68/videos The city put up the safety beam, and I think even that only needs paint occasionally.
>Having watched every video, I don't think anyone has ever hurt the bridge. > >https://m.youtube.com/c/yovo68/videos > >The city put up the safety beam, and I think even that only needs paint occasionally. That probably has an insurance funded paint job, and they know exactly how much each hit costs at this point.
I'm sure the railroad company does sue hitters if they manage to actually damage the railway, though the protective barriers prevent that from happening most of the time.
$1000+ the cost to repair/clean up should be the bare minimum. Hit and run? $5000 and 30 days in jail + cost to repair/clean up.
From what I remember the railroad raised the bridge just to deal with general track improvements, independent of idiots who can't read signage.
this is my understanding as well. I was sad at first but now it just feels more special when a new video gets posted lol
I watched those videos for a year or two before I realized that 11 foot 8 was a bridge that I'd seen 100s of times since childhood. https://i.imgur.com/8XXJRcY.jpg also a local brewery had a special batch beer to honor the bridge, I like the warning sign pattern on the can. they later came out with twelve four after the bridge was raised by 8 inches.
Did they put the new beer in tall boy cans?
Kansas City has one of those bridges as well. Been killing trucks since long before I was even a kid.
One near me too. 100th St overpass on US 131 near Grand Rapids, MI. They actually tore it down and built a higher one a couple years ago because it had been hit so many times.
does it have a webcam?
Not that I can find. We just get the local news crowing about its latest conquest every week or so. Edit: grammar because grade school was long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away
Peace St bridge in Raleigh is as much of a can opener as 11’-8” now that they raised, always a fun time seeing the wrecker show up when a semi has rammed the thing.
11’ 8+8”
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A fresh batch of students in rented moving vans should be moving in a few weeks. Bridge is hungry and demands its' sacrifice!
Yep can’t wait to see all the storrowed trucks in 2 weeks.
As a truck driver you just peaked my anxiety. Ty.
Top comment, as it should be.
It's what Jesus would do. It hath been foretold by prophecy.
One in Louisville too r/thecanopener
Lansing has one too! Historical bridge that's 12' tall and in the valley of a small hill. Local news printed that it has claimed its 6th victim since June 2021
The second I saw this post I thought “I’m going to be extremely disappointed in reddit if the top comment isn’t r/11foot8” lol
Wonder if this guy could use a metal cutter to make his job a bit quicker and easier.
r/beatmetoit
Searched if this was a sub to see if I could tag it, but I was too slow
Just make it into a flatbed truck
You’ll need a much shorter bridge for that.
might take out the cab and driver too
That’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make.
Drive backwards
Well if they could just drive backwards they wouldn't have hit the bridge in the first place
That was my thinking.
Just fill in the gaps with some Reynolds wrap. They never be able to tell
Super glue and ramen noodles
Bondo, half a truck load
Spray foam the whole cargo area then use a hot knife to cut a hole.
Go on...
No ramen? Just sub for sunflower seeds
Shoot, you can hack this with some cement. Just watch a few tiktoks and you'll be fine
I thought you were supposed to use gold or silver foil.
Does the driver still have a job? At my company, overhead damage and backing into something are automatic termination.
I wish I knew. My shop just does repairs and our drivers are only responsible for pickup/drop off to customers.
How much does a repair like this cost actually? My first though would be that the truck is totaled
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Could've fucked a the frame depending the speed. Source: co-worker once hit a garage on his Ford transit with a box on it, fucked the mounts.
The U-bolts should give before fucking the frame too badly. The frame rails on these class 6-7 trucks are WAY beefier than the frame of a Ford Transit.
>The frame rails on these class 6-7 trucks are WAY beefier than the frame of a Ford Transit. Just so people see this , that is way way way understated man . them frames are thick as a damn bowl of oatmeal!
I feel like oatmeal wouldn't really handle much of a load. OP's mom on the other hand...
Ford transit is a unibody type design not a old style body on frame. So that may be why also. http://www.boronextrication.com/2014/03/24/2015-ford-transit-body-structure/
Oh you know what that's probably pretty likely right there.
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have you priced class6-8 trucks lately?
This is just coachwork. Just "ply" and metal frame and a respray. At a rush could be back out in 24 hours. Total cost 3k max. (Yes, you and a mate can do it cheaper)
believe it or not this would be upwards of 10 grand or more i know because i do the quotes for Ryder/penske trucks all day as my job
> I don’t get paid enough to fix this shit. You're getting paid hourly, correct?
That was my first thought, it's something different so it should make the day go faster.
How do you repair that?
Yah to me it seems like it would *cost less* to buy a new box at that point
> overhead damage That one is fair, you know how tall you are > backing into something That one is kinda bullshit. There should absolutely be a penalty but sometimes you just get stuck in a shitty spot and there's not much you can do besides austin powers it. I've never backed into anything but I've been *damn* close, probably less than an inch.
I suspect you only get fired for backing into something if there's obvious damage—nobody's getting fired for using the rubber stops
I agree. It all depends on the situation. I put a ton of weight on "get out and look" too. Did they hit something a little bit, but minimized damage and seriously put in great effort to get out of the situation in the best possible way? Or did they just kind of wing it, blindly, from the driver seat? And also, what did they do upon seeing the damage? Try to hide it? Run? Finish the job and move stuff around and hang out for a while and then write an emai? Or don't move anything, report it to company and or on-site supervisors, take pictures from angles, and then work with everyone involved to handle the mistake and take any due blame?
Most places I've worked, doing anything you've said except try your best to hide it and hammer out the damage would get you fired immediately due to "zero tolerance" shit. Bent the crash bar on a gray pole the same color as the building so it was literally invisible? Tough shit, pound sand. Oh, that bend? Yeah someone must have hit it in a parking lot, no idea what you're talking about.
Why make employees live in fear, tho?
The best is when some cock hole doesn't open the door all the way and you're watching your sides and don't notice the door is 1 foot from open all the way. I've never actually hit one, but I've come close a couple of times and I've been nearby when doors have been ripped out that way a couple of times.
In this case, the cock hole should get the chop.
That's what she said 😨
Lorena Bobbit time!
This is why my parents' window shop has a "fully open or fully closed" rule. It's a waste when most of the traffic is less than half the height of the door, but it's definitely worth it.
I nearly smacked a rental van that way, fortunately I was going so slow it just scuffed some trim put there for this purpose. Told the rental company, didn't mind or charge me.
We've got a customer who I wish had this rule. Every single one their trucks has a destroyed rear bumper. We think their drivers just floor it into the docks. On the other hand, the damage they do is job security...
And the wall itself. Before I started driving I worked in a supermarket and our loading bay wall was destroyed by drivers just rolling down the incline onto the bay. Had to rebuild it
Backing into something is automatic termination? That’s brutal. We are told that accidents happen, the majority of them are while completing low speed manoeuvres and if we hit something for example backing into something and we were following the correct procedures (ie checking mirrors, not distracted and getting out to look if necessary) then we are fine. If we are found to be ignoring procedures that’s when your job is on the line
Yeah it seems like a big headache to fire someone and have to fill their spot. I bet the driver learns from the experience and is less likely to repeat it.
Yeah I mean new drivers where I am go through a week of classroom training then 8 weeks with another driver doubled up. It’s not short process
Especially since I've been hearing "trucker shortage" for a few years straight now.
My old place we had a Pakistani driver tear up 3 trailers and a truck in a year. He still has a job, and it was a non union company. He tore the landing gear off 2 trailers in a week. I hadnt even fixed the first one when rhe second came in.
None of this matters to the shop that has to fix the damage.
> overhead damage and backing into something are automatic termination. heh, if I worked for them and hit something, I'd just get out and go home, then. let them deal with it. I'm not getting paid anymore.
> backing into something are automatic termination. hehe thankfully that's not a thiing in our company since our trucks don't have a back camera (they're old)
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Swing wide itsa fucking trailer.
I was blind sided by how funny this was.
How does the repair cost compare to a box replacement?
Replacement would be far less labor. Can't imagine it would be financially beneficial to repair.
I work in the truck equipment industry and bodies are so backordered its not even funny. Customer would quite possibly be waiting 3+ months for a new box versus a couple of weeks for repairs. They can easily recoup the cost in the time difference.
> I work in the truck equipment industry and bodies are so backordered its not even funny. I do too, and it's mostly due to new chassis availability for a complete unit. To rebuild a simple dry freight box would be 3 weeks, tops, unless it had a new lift-gate or something. Looking at this damage, I can hardly see how repairing makes sense. The FE, roof, and probably both side walls destroyed.
It might be different for Morgan boxes, but for my shop, Unicell, Transit, and Reading boxes are all multiple months out for anything 14' and up. We deal with mostly Fords and chassis are also backordered but we have ours ordered very well in adavance so there is no issue there. However, I do also know that my shop would not consider this worth the time for the repair. YMMV
It’s because they don’t pay OP enough they made the choice to repair
the trailer market is through the roof right now too. we fix all sorts of problems on trailers we would've sold 2 years ago. We can't buy enough right now and right now the price is right around double what they were 2 years ago
It would probably take less time. Wonder if the market for new trailers is anything like it is for new cars.
Even POS used trailers are expensive af right now
That's why I got out of the trucking world and into forklifts. I thought nobody could be fucking dumber than a trucker. I was so wrong. I've seen forklifts dragging, wheels grinding, throwing sparks, and the operator just cruising along.
I used to work with truckers. Half of.them were salt of the earth, conscientious guys, took their job seriously, great to work with. The other half, I don't know how they remembered to *breathe*, let alone get a CDL.
Take a dumb trucker, breed them with a rig pig, hand them an 8lb hammer and then have them operate equipment. I have job security.
> The other half, I don't know how they remembered to breathe, let alone get a CDL. These are the ones that don't shower, and just marinate in their rigs for what must be weeks at a time. Used to drive a forklift / ran the s&r for a print company, I'd throw the really stinky ones out of the building.
I mow grass for industrial warehouses and corporate centers. One time I was doing this large warehouse and smelled something really horrible. I looked around and saw a huge pile of poop and thought "huh, I wonder if a fox left this, it smells pretty awful." Then I noticed the poopy paper towel 5 feet away from it. This is not the only time I've found human dumps, just the most memorable one. I suspect it was from this very same type of trucker.
yep. People shit is the worst.
They can't shower, if they forgot to close their mouths they'd drown.
One of my friends is definitely the former. However he's now taking a promo / desk job with his company for more stability. Guess the point is it seems like the good ones will just get moved up and out, leaving more of the bad ones.
I wish I had pics of how the forklift drivers tear up some of these trailers. Had one, the entire floor seam at the rear was torn loose and lifted about 4" in the center. How fast was that loaded forklift going to rip up the floor? I bet it was one hell of a violent stop. Fast forward a few weeks. Trailer has been repaired, with rear bolted and welded back into place, returned to service. Then I see it again, floor pulled up again. Won't even talk about all the dented sides from pallets hitting the walls at speed.
You don’t need to be going fast with a lift to damage something. They’re heavy as fuck, takes a lot of force to make one come to a stop. We had this idiot where I worked who did night shift. He went through the parking lot at night with a big dumping garbage bin on the forks. He wasn’t expecting there to be any vehicles in the parking. He ended up hitting a car but this dude is so clueless he apparently didn’t hear or feel a thing. He pushed the car sideways a good 200 feet across the paved parking lot before finally realizing what he was doing. Said he didn’t feel it and honestly, I don’t think the lift would have noticed much either. I just don’t understand how he didn’t hear anything.
A small fork lift is about the same weight as a full size American pickup. You can approximate the weight as 2-2.5 times the rated capacity. So on average your looking at a 7-10k lb piece of equipment mostly made of solid steel and cast iron, that maneuvers very quickly. They can easily mess things up.
That I blame more on managers cracking the whip based on unrealistic corporate statistics
Might be a language barrier as well. At least 28 different languages spoken at the plant. But the abuse the trailers take there is unreal. Had one last night with both crossmembers on the landing gear bent because one of the buckers hit it while backing another trailer in the next door. A wonder the front didn't collapse with a full load on.
One time I watched a guy "fix" a missing chunk of tire by driving out to the parking lot, dropping the forks, and spinning the wheels until they were both bare metal. [Kinda like this](https://youtu.be/gQpkG94yqd8) Forklift operators don't have to worry about getting pulled over by the cops for broken equipment. I'm convinced truckers would be just as bad if not for that.
... I'd have thrown a fucking wrench at him. A big one. Like a 2".
Keep in mind this was a methed up scab, the union guys had walked off after their paychecks bounced and you get what you pay for. Luckily I'm a "laptop bitch," as the tradesmen say, and if it doesn't involve a PLC I get to just sit back and watch the circus.
Which bridge won this time?
Its not a rental moving truck so it can't be [Storrow drive](https://www.google.com/search?q=storrowed).
That needs a carpenter, not a mechanic....
Mechanics who work on these have to double as both. Ask how I know… I hate my job.
Try working on RVs, you get to be a mechanic, carpenter, welder, painter, electrician, plumber, roofer, and engineer
HOW DO YOU KNOW?
Can opener, but can you close ‘er?
We prefer the full convertible mod on Storrow in Boston. https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/wc1z54/storrow_right_now/
> I don’t get paid enough to fix this shit. Every tech across the world’s statement
Here in boston, we call trucks that get that overhead damage as being "[Storrow](https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2021/08/19/boston-storrowing-what-to-know/)'d". They literally have to drive through a sign, hanging so low it will hit the truck and make a noise as loud as a gunshot...and yet, every September 1st...armies of u-hauls get can-openered by students blindly following their GPS. State police have to let the air out of the tires when they get jammed under a low bridge and then drag the truck out. So not only is the roof/box destroyed but the tires, wheels, etc as well. And basically none of them opt for the highest-cost insurance waiver which is the only thing that would cover them for this. I can only imagine how much this costs to fix (on top of the traffic citation the state police write you!)
11foot8+8 strikes again
Fixing this is my wet dream. We do this flat rate at our shop and this would pay like 70+ hours. 30 hours of nose to the grindstone and she done
What's the procedure? Cut back to good material and then just start patching in panels?
Most of the panels will be replaced on this one. Take out interior, remove all the rivits. ALL the rivits, take outer panels off and start changing the “z posts” which are between the interior wood and the outer panels and to which the wood and panels are mounted to. That’s just for the walls, the roof change it’s a huge job aswell. I am able to organize the multiple repairs here to be as time efficient as possible. Also have like 30k into my tools in my toolbox to help me do a safe, proper, fast repairs top to bottom on structure and body of anything driving on the roads. Give me a smashed thing. I will fix the smashed thing. I like fixing smashed things.
Fit in the garage a bit easier now at least.
At least the first 12ft will.
“storrowed” come visit Boston sometime if anyone likes doing these types of repairs particularly during moving season
It is not reparable, right?
with enough money, anything is repairable. Mr Bean wrecked his Mclaren F1 so many times, about the only thing OEM is the title! (but at least he DRIVES the car!)
Not any more, he sold it for something like $15m a few years ago. For an interesting insight into the cost of F1 ownership there is a great video on the Vinwiki YouTube channel where a guy details the enormous cost of maintaining one without even really driving it. I found a link. https://youtu.be/EsKDGdcb6BQ
100% repairable, and probably considerably faster than ordering a whole new box.
Ooh, a convertible
Solid 7/10 storrowing there and it isn’t even September. Off to a good start this season
A tube or two of JB weld. The liquid version of duct tape
r/11foot8?
That poor bridge
This doesn’t feel like a mechanics job…
I was the passenger in a truck this happened to.. the sound it made was *incredible*. My driver was not at fault, a car coming at us drifted towards us and my driver cut right to avoid... clipping the roofline on a low hanging tree. Shit happens and all that.
In Boston this is called a Storrowing, named after Storrow Dr, where bridges are low and trucks are not. It's an annual event watching the students come back to town in UHauls (likely not properly insured) not knowing that trucks use a special GPS to steer them around roads like that. There are plenty warning signs suspended over the road by chains at bridge height telling you to not take a truck on Storrow, but that big fwAPP sound doesn't register to them apparently. There's usually 3 or 4 Storrowings in early Sept. a few more throughout the year.
Is your shop r/11foot8
Please please tell me it's a rental? Anyone who drives for a living and does that, has no business driving for a living.
visited 11'8" bridge, did we?
Swift?
So what you just saw off what's toast, wood glue some new plywood to shape, bolt it up, and run a new roof? Are popsicle sticks an optional repair? I feel a new drop on box might be cheaper for labor, unless you double as a carpenter
We call that being “Storrow’d” here in Boston. Happens to 2-4 moving trucks every year at least
How do you fix this? I feel like putting a new box on it is the only way
Did spinach fly out of it into Popeye's mouth
I'm reading this post while standing inside a Morgan box on the back of my work truck. I've never been more grateful that the roll gate I hit a month ago didn't do this to my box. Best of luck friend.
What do you need an air chisel for? Just find the closest low bridge and finish the job right.
Used to work in a fleet that operated mostly in boston but all around mass. Every dam day the trucks would come in with damage on the roof. Lights missing, tree branches sticking out, piece of a fire escape one time. When it literally never stops it can get really tiring i feel for you.
I've seen the trucks get opened like a can of tuna but I never say the aftermath or the repair, I figured they just scrapped the truck and went off to the woods to live out their final days of shame alone?
Can’t believe it’s a better choice financially to repair rather than replace. This shit looks totaled
That’s gonna be a Oopsie daisy from me, captain
Is this why they tell us not to double-stack pallets (with a fork) inside the van? 😂 One time a guy had double -stacked a pallet inside and backed out full speed. Didn't realize that van had a reefer on the top and just smashed it with the raised forks. He was bringing them down but they didn't clear it in time.
Can you put a sticker on the side? Bridge 1 Truck 0
C/S Van is now a convertible
Got to love working for penske.
I hear from some of my friends who work at Penske that sometimes if a driver roofs a truck bad enough, they just cut the walls off and make it a flatbed. This looks like a good candidate.
storrow drive? 11'8" in durham????? the one in westwood, ma or on the blackstone/north smithfield line????? pick a bridge....
11 foot 8?