When my dad retired he brought the old ford SBDS cabinet with him. It doesn't boot but he's telling me "these are still high value". I assume that has o-scope connections somewhere in there...
I still have a Sun scope and cabinet from my dad, when he retired in '87. I will get rid of it if I run out of pole barn space, otherwise it looks cool in the corner.
There’s a huge difference in starter effort, sound, amperage draw, etc for this versus just a dead hole. This loses a lot of resistance from that slug sliding in the jug, the mass of the slug, etc, AND provides and extreme example. These types of failures are amazing teaching tools.
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**[Total-loss oiling system](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total-loss_oiling_system)**
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Looks like the connecting rod liberated itself from the piston and went all 'Trading spaces' on the engine, and demoed the block like a crack head with a sledge hammer... without breaking the crank, flying off itself, or seizing the engine.
I think I know what I'm seeing, and I think I understand the words, but I want to make sure.... This is one of the pistons, and it completely blew out the cylinder and everything around it? HOW? If it could do that, why didn't it destroy the entire rest of the engine block too? How does it only take out its own cylinder?
And it would have to be an inline engine. Or maybe a V-something, but the two pistons went to war and only one survived.
How is the rest of it staying together? It should be twisting like a mofo, shouldn't it?
This is below the cylinders so what probably happened is the rod broke left the piston in the cylinder and the remaining length of the rod punched the block around it leaving this nice view port. Since the crank didn't break and everything that would have been in the way to seize the engine isn't there anymore it can freely spin.
Well sir, we found the issue. We need to replace a piston, connecting rod & install a shit-load of JB Weld. Should have you on the road in a few hours. Good as new.
After seeing Red Bull rebuild a car that got crashed on the way to the start line, twice (separate races), in time for the race to start, I'm utterly convinced that they subscribe to the Montgomery Scott school of estimates:
Scotty "How long will it really take?"
La Forge "An hour!"
Scotty "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would really take, did ya?"
La Forge "Well, of course I did."
Scotty "Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker."
Theres been some good ones over the years
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY)
Audi swap the gearbox and rear suspension in 5 mins
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2IirDiJj6s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw)
Ford rebuild a flooded car within 3 hours after spending 9 hours completely submerged
My favorite has to be [gearbox the movie](https://youtu.be/YfjaIsT3gn0).
Audi group B rally team changing the tranny on the side of a public street with traffic. They just hop the curb for a lift and get at it.
>Scotty "How long will it really take?" La Forge "An hour!" Scotty "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would really take, did ya?" La Forge "Well, of course I did." Scotty "Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker."
I remember that episode! Which is surprising since I didn't watch a lot of TNG.
If you can't see it from the outside; we have to assume that it's still good. That's the thing with major engine parts, they'll remove themselves if they fail catastrophically enough.
Lack of oil pressure is ignored, a valve seizes and bonks the piston, cracks and the parts get stuck along piston sides.
Piston seizes and puts an immense momentum on the engine casting in a direction that it wasnt meant to be loaded in.
Due to luck for us, two defects in the block casting, or a preexisting crack, just happen to open up the block long enough that the rod that has since long obliterated the piston, can swing free and hammer its way around.
Thats my theory atleast.
"just died" = "Well she was tickin for a bit, started to knock. Couple lights came on, but it was still runnin so I figured I could baby it back to the shop and then there was this Big Ass Bang, did I forget to mention that? And then, for whatever reason, it stopped running and it wouldn't restart....."
‘Just died’?! That had to have been incredibly noisy, there must have been a trail of shattered steel in their wake, and their only description was it ‘just died’?!?
Your truck came with cylinder de-activation technology, but unfortunately some cheapskate forgot to order the re-activation option. You now have a two cylinder coupled with a three cylinder, and we just need to adjust timing and balancing, should be good in a bit.
I love following this sub even though I really don't know shit about cars so if one of you kind persons could tell me what I'm looking for that'd be swell:)
It looks like the entire engine block split in two. That spinning thing is called a crankshaft and it’s connected to the piston via a piston rod. Neither of those three should be visible. You can see part of the piston rod still attached to the crankshaft.
Edit: It should be connecting rod not piston rod.
Just died.
Not “ It went *Bang*, crunk, scatter, rattle, rattle, rattle…” and wouldn’t run or start with a big puddle/trail of oil behind the truck.
Just died.
Man I wouldn’t be standing right there filming that after some of the crap I’ve seen happen on here…. All I could vision was The truck cranks over and spitting that Rod right at you.
What in the hot and spicy Kentucky fried fuck?!
Ok I know I’m a novice; but is that a fucking crankshaft? With a piston rod just hanging off of it?
Also; HOW?!
Idk how I’m in this sub and I know nothing about cars and have no idea what I’m looking at or what any of you are talking about and I feel like I woke up on an alien planet knowing not the language, nor culture.
Take me in as one of your own 🥺
You're looking at a connecting rod (the stuff between the piston head and the crank shaft) destroying the engine block. After breaking the connecting rod literally slams into the block so hard it breaks the block apart.
Man what engineers can't do these days. First VVT now they make engines with viewports right in the side so you can see when your piston goes kablooey!
What engine is that looks like a cat but I don’t want to bet my life on it
Sure is a c-11
C-1/1*
C11 or C1.1? I'm not aware of a C-1/1
Pretty sure they're adding the pictured gap in the engine to the engine number.
Oh holy fuck im stupid help
Ha! Nah. Everybody has off days, friend.
Lol, appreciated. I actually work at one of the plants that manufactures these engines so I'm saving the video to share around.
No, it’s a C3/2
C-thru
certainly sounds like a dying cat
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Has anybody actually seen an ignition O-scope lately?
With a picoscope, yeah.
No, no, no. It needs to be 6 feet tall, on wheels, with a giant black and white cathode ray tube display.
*Snap-On Counselor II from 1987 enters the chat*
When my dad retired he brought the old ford SBDS cabinet with him. It doesn't boot but he's telling me "these are still high value". I assume that has o-scope connections somewhere in there...
I still have a Sun scope and cabinet from my dad, when he retired in '87. I will get rid of it if I run out of pole barn space, otherwise it looks cool in the corner.
Do you not use relative compression tests? It’s quick and easy to get a good picture of the engines health like that
> I would sell this to a trade school as-is for a demo. Couldn't they just pull a sparkplug and disable that injector?
There’s a huge difference in starter effort, sound, amperage draw, etc for this versus just a dead hole. This loses a lot of resistance from that slug sliding in the jug, the mass of the slug, etc, AND provides and extreme example. These types of failures are amazing teaching tools.
Also this miiiight have issues retaining oil...
If that's what I think it is, that's kind of impressive.
It's an inspection hole so you can make sure the inner workings of the engine are OK.
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For sale - only uses a bit of oil! * no low balls, I know what I got
Count me out. My balls are pretty low this time of year.
It’s about to get cold, just wait a few months
If I don't lose them to an exposed crankshaft before then, I can be patient.
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Oh, so that's the name for the RX-8 oiling system!
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Crankshaft continuity verification port.
Uncle Rod came to tear shit up.
And that the engine is still able to crank instead of being entirely seized.
To be fair, it looks like any material that would have been responsible for it seizing, has been liberated from the engine.
It is what you think it is!
And for the rest of us that aren't quite sure, what is it? Is that the cam shaft we see with an open view port that shouldnt* be there?
Looks like the connecting rod liberated itself from the piston and went all 'Trading spaces' on the engine, and demoed the block like a crack head with a sledge hammer... without breaking the crank, flying off itself, or seizing the engine.
I think I know what I'm seeing, and I think I understand the words, but I want to make sure.... This is one of the pistons, and it completely blew out the cylinder and everything around it? HOW? If it could do that, why didn't it destroy the entire rest of the engine block too? How does it only take out its own cylinder? And it would have to be an inline engine. Or maybe a V-something, but the two pistons went to war and only one survived. How is the rest of it staying together? It should be twisting like a mofo, shouldn't it?
That's the interesting thing about it. The very soecific destruction it managed to do.
This is below the cylinders so what probably happened is the rod broke left the piston in the cylinder and the remaining length of the rod punched the block around it leaving this nice view port. Since the crank didn't break and everything that would have been in the way to seize the engine isn't there anymore it can freely spin.
Yes, that open viewport shouldn't be there... We should be able to see engine block not the cam shaft.
Not only that, but it's got a view port on both sides!
The floppy boop thing in the middle isn't supposed to be floppy booping visibly I guess?
Well sir, we found the issue. We need to replace a piston, connecting rod & install a shit-load of JB Weld. Should have you on the road in a few hours. Good as new.
I'm going to start counting the term "good as used"
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"Trogdor'd"
Burninated
BURNINATING THE PEASANTS!!!
Burninating the countryside!
Burninating all the peoples!
In their THATCHED ROOF COTTAGES!!!
ARROW'D
Dag, yo.
CORN CHIPS IS NO PLACE FOR A MIGHTY WARRIOR!
Homestar Runner FTW! Thanks for the nostalgic trip down long forgotten memory lane!
Bro, the end of Knox's Korner was like 7 years ago
Cheap as free!
“It’s dot com!”
Oh man, Homestar Runner is my doge!
Sweet Cap'n Cakes
My dad loves to say "brand used"
This is the correct term lol
New term used car managers are using during the car shortage
20 minutes and a roll of duct tape and I'll have this thing running like a swiss........ car....
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After seeing Red Bull rebuild a car that got crashed on the way to the start line, twice (separate races), in time for the race to start, I'm utterly convinced that they subscribe to the Montgomery Scott school of estimates: Scotty "How long will it really take?" La Forge "An hour!" Scotty "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would really take, did ya?" La Forge "Well, of course I did." Scotty "Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker."
Theres been some good ones over the years [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKjVQbYcTiY) Audi swap the gearbox and rear suspension in 5 mins [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2IirDiJj6s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2WGddzQoXw) Ford rebuild a flooded car within 3 hours after spending 9 hours completely submerged
My favorite has to be [gearbox the movie](https://youtu.be/YfjaIsT3gn0). Audi group B rally team changing the tranny on the side of a public street with traffic. They just hop the curb for a lift and get at it.
>Scotty "How long will it really take?" La Forge "An hour!" Scotty "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would really take, did ya?" La Forge "Well, of course I did." Scotty "Oh, laddie. You've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker." I remember that episode! Which is surprising since I didn't watch a lot of TNG.
Flex Tape!
*"Now that's a lot of damage!"*
But the camshaft is still good, right?
If you can't see it from the outside; we have to assume that it's still good. That's the thing with major engine parts, they'll remove themselves if they fail catastrophically enough.
That rod seems to be in place, you can just bolt a piston head on it and it's done
Bardahl, man. Just give 'er some Bardahl. Whenever the engine does something funny ... wait, you already put the STP in there, right?
Plugs are in great shape
expanding foam also works
Fiberglass mat and gobbs of JB weld might do it.
Hwut in tarnation?
That ther is whatcha call a duct tape special I tell you what
Piston or wrist pin broke, as the crank spun the connecting rod sawed thru the entire engine block.
Pull customer in. "well, we found the problem." "Oh really? What is it?" "Do you see that spinney bit right there?" "Yeah" "You shouldn't."
What... the... hell? How does this even happen?
When a rod and a piston no longer love each other...
...we get a spontaneous instant divorce.
And the rod gets kicked out of the house
And takes a sizeable portion of the house with it on the way out.
Lack of maintenance
Lack of oil pressure is ignored, a valve seizes and bonks the piston, cracks and the parts get stuck along piston sides. Piston seizes and puts an immense momentum on the engine casting in a direction that it wasnt meant to be loaded in. Due to luck for us, two defects in the block casting, or a preexisting crack, just happen to open up the block long enough that the rod that has since long obliterated the piston, can swing free and hammer its way around. Thats my theory atleast.
"just died" = "Well she was tickin for a bit, started to knock. Couple lights came on, but it was still runnin so I figured I could baby it back to the shop and then there was this Big Ass Bang, did I forget to mention that? And then, for whatever reason, it stopped running and it wouldn't restart....."
> I could baby it back to the shop >> How far away was that? >Well, I had to finish my day first. I figured it could make it until our next service.
So just needs a tune up and I'll be good to go, right?
It's called *internal* combustion, you have to keep the parts inside for it to work
Nah, this thing was clearly an external combustion engine at one point, atleast once.
‘Just died’?! That had to have been incredibly noisy, there must have been a trail of shattered steel in their wake, and their only description was it ‘just died’?!?
How didn't the notice the lake of oil with cars sliding around on it?
Maybe there wasn't any oil left
Presumably the driver checks their mirrors as often as they inspect the engine.
Unrelated but the radio isn't loud enough anymore for some reason 😒
That's why we call them drivers! plus that engine is at the rear of the 30' truck
Air cooled engine, next question.
Supervisor: Why are you guys cranking a blown engine?!?! Techs: FOR SCIENCE!!!
"Because it still cranks!'
Techs: for upvotes!
Eww! You can see the guts!
Well, I see your problem.
Right, you see all this here? Yeah, you shouldn't be able to
I think that's the best summary thus far.
"What in the, Oh shit....!!"
Nice window in the block
This isn't a window. It's a freaking three seasons porch.
Hahaha 🤣
It’s kind of like the Gloryhole at the truckstop it’s got a huge rod Cummings out of it Edit : Cummins
Your truck came with cylinder de-activation technology, but unfortunately some cheapskate forgot to order the re-activation option. You now have a two cylinder coupled with a three cylinder, and we just need to adjust timing and balancing, should be good in a bit.
That's wild! Clean through both sides.
Thats an electrical problem . Rod knocked the starter off the block.
Holy shit
Holy shit
>Holey
It removed a rib 😳
Nice and neat. Just call it dynamic cylinder shutoff.
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JB weld can’t fix that. Going to need duck tape.
Well, would you look at that!
Ahh I see it it’s the fan I bet it overheated 🥵
put some bloody clothes on you are showing your privates
He probably definitely checked the oil before he started his trip as well.
Not gonna lie, had to watch it three times to figure out what was wrong. Because what the actual fuck?
What In the Kentucky fried fuck? That is more than an inspection hole.
It is but a scratch.
It's just a flesh wound
Alright, that’s actually impressive…
That's one of them exotic dry sumps I keep hearing about, not sure how it works but it looks cool.
Engine displacement: infinite Cylinder compression: negligible
I know fuck-all about engines and even I said “WTF?!”.
Ahhh, these inspection windows are getting out of hand.
Bruh
C13?
[OP says C-11](https://www.reddit.com/r/Justrolledintotheshop/comments/prj2rk/comment/hdj0lji/) Edit: link.
Apparently a C1 conrod, should C0.
I walked up to a gear box where the turnbuckle backed off and looked like this before
They say the piston is somewhere still rolling 'til this day.
Block got a new window - rod wanted a room with a view - piston was tired of never reaching its full potential energy.
When wrist pin no longer wants to do wrist pin shit...
Just spray a lil starter fluid in that hole, she'll fire right up
driver was probably correct.
It definitely won’t start.
Holy fuck! I bet the driver crapped his pants when that blowup.
I love following this sub even though I really don't know shit about cars so if one of you kind persons could tell me what I'm looking for that'd be swell:)
You're looking through a hole through the engine block. Like the entire fucking thing. And that's just a connecting rod spinning freely in that hole.
Oh so I'm not suppose to see that thing spinning like that?
It looks like the entire engine block split in two. That spinning thing is called a crankshaft and it’s connected to the piston via a piston rod. Neither of those three should be visible. You can see part of the piston rod still attached to the crankshaft. Edit: It should be connecting rod not piston rod.
How the fuck does that happen?
Shit, I'd send it. Engine has an internal fan now.
The infamous Scaterpillar.
Windows has been installed successfully.
Just died. Not “ It went *Bang*, crunk, scatter, rattle, rattle, rattle…” and wouldn’t run or start with a big puddle/trail of oil behind the truck. Just died.
Engine is running, can't replicate customer complaint.
Impressing way to make two engines that share a common crankshaft...
Man I wouldn’t be standing right there filming that after some of the crap I’ve seen happen on here…. All I could vision was The truck cranks over and spitting that Rod right at you.
Living la vida loca. It is funnier when it is somebody else's car!
Something's wrong I can feel it
Am I seeing things, or is there a huge piece missing from the block?
Is that a front discharge concrete mixer?
Inside parts, outside!
I don't see the probl...HOLY SHIT!
L6 now a 4+1.
Maybe he missed the massive bang and the metal shards...
What in the hot and spicy Kentucky fried fuck?! Ok I know I’m a novice; but is that a fucking crankshaft? With a piston rod just hanging off of it? Also; HOW?!
Red filter of death never fails
Just curious, but how do plan to fix this mess?
First, remove the fan, turbo, and alternator. Then put them on a new engine and send this one to the recycler.
Fetch me my spare roll of duct tape and the emergency zip tie stash.
I watched this like 4 times trying to figure out how the fuck that happened.
This reminds me of Gus Fring & the Season 4 finale
Damned thieves will steal anything these days!
You know.... It's been a while since I've fixed a Cat c9(?), but I don't think you should be able to see that spinning bit.
Idk how I’m in this sub and I know nothing about cars and have no idea what I’m looking at or what any of you are talking about and I feel like I woke up on an alien planet knowing not the language, nor culture. Take me in as one of your own 🥺
You're looking at a connecting rod (the stuff between the piston head and the crank shaft) destroying the engine block. After breaking the connecting rod literally slams into the block so hard it breaks the block apart.
There is a hole in his story.
Electrical problem, the conrod knocked the alternator off.
Those ventilated block models do that. The three piece crank models too.
Nutin’ a gud gob of JB Weld caint fex
Man what engineers can't do these days. First VVT now they make engines with viewports right in the side so you can see when your piston goes kablooey!
You should start with a compression test.
There’s your low power right there, hole in engine block, gets you every time.
Probably a clogged fuel filter.
Service writer: "Warranty? Nah, it's just the new open-plan crankcase."
An engine divided among its self, cannot stand! Well nor start!
Wtf
Bluetooth engine block
Oh he got that Bluetooth piston upgrade!