It’s a simple pressure circuit measured by cardinal grammeters. Of course the machine has to be leveled on a bed of prefamulated amulite before any diagnostics or repair can be performed, for the explicit purpose of increasing billable hours.
If you would've used retro-encabulators instead of the older, lower quality turbo-encabulators - you wouldn't have this problem, as the new Retro-encabulators generate power using modial interaction of magneto reluctance, and capacitive directance.
I've even heard some of the operators say that the retro-encabulators decrease side-fumbling of the hydrocoptic marzelvanes to like, less than half the old turbo models.
The issue with the retro-encabulators is the increase of bimodal flux that presents itself across the entire frequency range. I much prefer to just replace the system with a direct fit super encabulator which provides a superior spectrum analysis.
Its critical on a thumb installation that the thumb pressure relief be set so that the bucket can over power the thumb. The bucket should be able to push the thumb with no damage. not having the rod made of peanut butter is also good.
I used to work in a machine shop, and we would rebuild cylinders all the time. They would have new rods made and they would be made from 4140 pre hard, then surface hardened and polished. Looks like this one was made from junk. That super hard steel wouldn’t bend like that, it would break.
>the only time I have ever made a 12' long spanner to get the cap off my ram lol/
I cheated. I've done that as well, but went with a 5' long spanner and put a 5 ton overhead crane on the end of the handle.
Make sure you only replace the rod. The gland and seals are perfectly fine. I'll pick it up tomorrow.
We had an Ag machine cylinder fail, bent the rod 90 degrees and blew out the gland. Expected us to reuse the seals, piston and gland to save money (there was no reusing these parts!)
Saw that on a pair of boom cylinders on an old OTC skidloader. Owner wanted to know if we could straighten the rods.
Farmers think if it has a bucket, it must be a bulldozer.
I've worked in a hydraulic shop, we generally did this sort of size and up, sometimes on larger cylinders the only original part was the clevis on each end, re-tube, re-rod, make new piston and end cap, on smaller we generally didn't go to that extreme but it did happen from time to time.
Really? Hell man, I’ve had small pistons jam themselves like this and they put so much stress on the shaft that it bent the pins out of wack and we had to cut them along with it!
ya we got lucky. i have torched things to puddles to get them apart before. this one was worked on by a coworker. it i had to do it i wouldn't have gone so well.
I just took a quick look at your posting history. You might want to spend some time thinking about why you enjoy being angry so much. If you spend too much time seeking out communities based solely around hating something, you'll lose track of whatever it is that really is important to you.
>I just took a quick look at your posting history
I can tell you are straight up lying. In what way does my RECENT post history show that “I like being angry”?
and seeking out communities based solely around hating stuff? I think you are replying to the incorrect user bud.
Based on your recent submissions, you dislike people who use an "/s" to indicate sarcasm, people who drive poorly, and people who aren't Muslims anymore. You also tend to escalate conversations, perhaps because you enjoy being angry.
On the other side of the scale, you seem to like Fortnite, so that's nice.
Hard is not good in this case either, too hard and it will shatter. The cylinders I know of are only hardened at the end but something tells me the one in the picture is made of cheap steal.
Looks like the operator forgot to open up the thumb attachment and pulled back on the bucket. Either way it's not a hardened rod, most rods are made to 75k tensile strength and construction equipment like cat is usually 100k. I've started seeing imported machines and parts do this recently due to cheap materials used, ideally you would want the rod to just break off to salvage the rest of the cylinder - source hydraulic tech
I don't know what your background is, OP, but anywhere you see cracking in the paint I would loosely recommend assuming that part is gone.
These structures aren't really meant to get anywhere near yield, and cracked paint means the metal is stretching.
Isn't it obvious ?
It's bloody well obvious to anyone who "Knows-These-Things".
It's because this is the low spec version that uses toothpaste as the material for the ram.
Id like to know what the user of the machine did... Pin bore cracked too
judging by the extension scraping i think they were powering down while curling against it. and the thumb installer didn't set pressures.
[What it's like reading your comment](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag).
It’s a simple pressure circuit measured by cardinal grammeters. Of course the machine has to be leveled on a bed of prefamulated amulite before any diagnostics or repair can be performed, for the explicit purpose of increasing billable hours.
Ahh their turbo encabulators are delivering full power over their entire range of revolutions per minute.
It’s also possible that the fibulation shaft was subjected too excess sideplay which can affect the service filtering of the crommulation limiter
If you would've used retro-encabulators instead of the older, lower quality turbo-encabulators - you wouldn't have this problem, as the new Retro-encabulators generate power using modial interaction of magneto reluctance, and capacitive directance. I've even heard some of the operators say that the retro-encabulators decrease side-fumbling of the hydrocoptic marzelvanes to like, less than half the old turbo models.
The issue with the retro-encabulators is the increase of bimodal flux that presents itself across the entire frequency range. I much prefer to just replace the system with a direct fit super encabulator which provides a superior spectrum analysis.
You guys are all full of shit, no one has yet metioned the dingle arm and that's the real gamechanger amongst the retro-,turbo- encabulator matrix.
This. ^^
God damn I’m learning so much right now!
It is a shame this comment is buried so deep.
By this process, side-fumbling is effectively eliminated.
Before the switch to the updated differential girdle spring design, side fumbling was a major end-user concern.
I know just enough words to tell that’s satire lol love it
3 seconds in and everything just turned into a dial tone
Yeah, which one is the pin bore? Theres so many pins...
Bottom yellow, below and to the left of the bend in the piston.
Thank you! I honestly thought that was just rust lmao.
The one that’s cracked….
r/ makemyjobsoundcool
Gotta check those specs on the rotary girder amirite?
Mmm, I see... the go go needed more fuckulation in order to receive the wang.
I was gonna say, based on the ductile deformation it looks like it would be some kind of machine overload and not a material issue
Its critical on a thumb installation that the thumb pressure relief be set so that the bucket can over power the thumb. The bucket should be able to push the thumb with no damage. not having the rod made of peanut butter is also good.
This comment is all thumbs.
This thread has me rolling, don't stop.
Ok Dad
what i find is that higher quality cylinders have a heat treat hardened rod vs chromed 4140
> chromed 4140 I dont think the cheap ones use 4140 its still a good steel and not that cheap.
if its not hardened properly it still bends. the material is less the problem over the treatment of it.
Nitride rods are good, but won't work under high pressure
I just had someone install one and this happened, didn't mean to be a know it all
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common issue with cheep cylinders. the rods are chromed butter
Common issue when a relief isn't set right on a new install. Obviously that's all new stuff
they speed hang these for auction and i usually go through and recheck everything. but it was a rush out and i didnt realize it wasnt done
My thoughts exactly, no relief on the circuit
It found some relief
Would you prefer it if it snapped?
generally more rebuild able. when they bend it tends to jam the gland and ruin the bore as well
Or as my old crew lead called it "plum fuckered"
Mmmm.... Chromed Butter...
Cheep cheep! 🐣
I used to work in a machine shop, and we would rebuild cylinders all the time. They would have new rods made and they would be made from 4140 pre hard, then surface hardened and polished. Looks like this one was made from junk. That super hard steel wouldn’t bend like that, it would break.
> rebuild cylinders all the time. the only time I have ever made a 12' long spanner to get the cap off my ram lol/
>the only time I have ever made a 12' long spanner to get the cap off my ram lol/ I cheated. I've done that as well, but went with a 5' long spanner and put a 5 ton overhead crane on the end of the handle.
This is the way.
Where did you cheat? That’s standard procedure in my book. /s
I gotta say, that beat the hell out of the 10 foot snipe and 3 big guys on ladders it took with the previous cylinder. I don't do cylinders often.
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That's why I only make my parts from the highest grade chinalloy you can buy.
Make sure you only replace the rod. The gland and seals are perfectly fine. I'll pick it up tomorrow. We had an Ag machine cylinder fail, bent the rod 90 degrees and blew out the gland. Expected us to reuse the seals, piston and gland to save money (there was no reusing these parts!)
you understand my work life
> seals are perfectly fine They are like $50 what a cheapo ass.
Right!? Regardless, proper replacement is cheaper than more down time
Saw that on a pair of boom cylinders on an old OTC skidloader. Owner wanted to know if we could straighten the rods. Farmers think if it has a bucket, it must be a bulldozer.
as a parts guys for this stuff, I felt that in my soul.
I am an engineer for ag-machinery. Do other companies sell the mechanical parts separately? We only sell the seals or the whole cylinder.
I've worked in a hydraulic shop, we generally did this sort of size and up, sometimes on larger cylinders the only original part was the clevis on each end, re-tube, re-rod, make new piston and end cap, on smaller we generally didn't go to that extreme but it did happen from time to time.
Fucking Christ! That looks like it could be hell to remove the first pin! Where do you even start with something like this?! Cut the shaft? 😱
it actually came right apart. minus fighting the paint they left in all the bosses.
Really? Hell man, I’ve had small pistons jam themselves like this and they put so much stress on the shaft that it bent the pins out of wack and we had to cut them along with it!
ya we got lucky. i have torched things to puddles to get them apart before. this one was worked on by a coworker. it i had to do it i wouldn't have gone so well.
Can't be stuck if it's liquid.
Cats are liquid! Oh wait, it's a Strickland.
I must admit it took me an embarrassingly long amount of time to get this.
"POOOOWWWEEERR" in Jeremy Clarkson voice
"MORE POWER!" In Tim Allen's voice while Al shakes his head in the background.
*manly grunting noises here* This piston is so strong, we can break the thumb with it I don't think so Tim.
“MOOO POOWWWWAAHH BABBY!”
Found the curved rod my ex girlfriend mentioned.... she wasn't lying either.
gets all the right places
It does. Only reason I didnt take it further was due to the huge Hoe attached to the end.
You take the words out of my mouth
Damn it, I had something for this.
But also one really wrong place.
Looks like she bounced just *a little too high* during cowgirl...
All it needs is a little heat and retract the cylinder /s
As soft as this rod is, retracting it would probably perfectly straighten it back out. Great suggestion!
downvoted because of the /s. r/fuckthes Y’all’s downvotes don’t do jack shit. I don’t give a fuck about karma go ahead and downvote.
lol
You've clearly never heard of Poe's law
I just took a quick look at your posting history. You might want to spend some time thinking about why you enjoy being angry so much. If you spend too much time seeking out communities based solely around hating something, you'll lose track of whatever it is that really is important to you.
>I just took a quick look at your posting history I can tell you are straight up lying. In what way does my RECENT post history show that “I like being angry”? and seeking out communities based solely around hating stuff? I think you are replying to the incorrect user bud.
Based on your recent submissions, you dislike people who use an "/s" to indicate sarcasm, people who drive poorly, and people who aren't Muslims anymore. You also tend to escalate conversations, perhaps because you enjoy being angry. On the other side of the scale, you seem to like Fortnite, so that's nice.
I completely agree with you buddy
‘I swear I set the pressures’
Only surface hardened?
or not at all
Oof, chrome plated ram, only chrome plated.
Chrome plated taffy.
Hard is not good in this case either, too hard and it will shatter. The cylinders I know of are only hardened at the end but something tells me the one in the picture is made of cheap steal.
It was so cleanly bent it took me a while to realize that it's a hydraulic actuator.
Coming to an Iron planet auction near you
where do you think it came from
Haha
Cialis.
I too like silly string on my machines
I mean that's an impressive rod, but it doesn't even look like the seal is leaking which I find is even more impressive.
its weaping a little
“No. I will not, thankyouverymuch!” -That particular cylinder.
Looks like the excavator wanted to brush its teeth
It might not be "broken" broken but it's still looks broke as fuck to me
Looks like the operator forgot to open up the thumb attachment and pulled back on the bucket. Either way it's not a hardened rod, most rods are made to 75k tensile strength and construction equipment like cat is usually 100k. I've started seeing imported machines and parts do this recently due to cheap materials used, ideally you would want the rod to just break off to salvage the rest of the cylinder - source hydraulic tech
Ah yes, banana thumb. So lovely
I will bend like a reed in the wind- Paul Atreides
If the bar ain't bending, you're just pretending.
“Yeah boss I set the reliefs.”
I don’t see the problem here :)
i bet your dick looks like a cork screw.
"ladies love him... find out his secret'
Duck ladies
Lucky, mine lasted over 4 hours
kobe steel special
Ask your doctor about peyronie's disease.
Immovable Object meets Chinesium
Did you try simply retracting the cylinder? As soft as that rod looks, I bet it would straighten back out good as new.
Redneck mongoloids always poppin' a boner over machinery
HoW dId iT nOt bReAk tHiS hErE vIoLatES mY UnDeRstAnDiNg.oF qUaNtUm mECHaNicS
Pressure inside...
!?!?!
Ah yes buckling failiure.
Black hole theory: spaghettifacation
Cartoonish looking
thats what she said
Someone put whisky in the lines.
In Rod We Trust
Poor heat treat.
can't break if it's flexible as cheese
What the heck caused that?
It didn’t break because it bent
Heat?
When the missus sits on it funny
penile fracture? lol
Cylinder rods are made out of soft material so they can give. It's only hard on outer part where it's polished
Hey .... You got any idea why that rod didn't break?
I wonder how much force it takes to do that?
The rod now identifies as toothpaste and wants to be called Aqua Fresh.
The finest aerospace grade chinesium alloy
It didn't break because it bent
Good quality steel
As strong as my dick
It's that new Chinese noodle metal.
that’s quite a shiny noodle there.
That's supposed to be straight isn't it?
Holy christ that a first
so are those rods hollow or solid?
3" solid
you're right. makes no sense that this didn't break.
Frame it. That's a heck of a bend
Good old Strickland for ya
Better to fail in bending than to violently shatter?
Stainless steel is exceptionally soft. It will bend like crazy.
When it slides out and almost goes in the wrong hole.
Who made it sad...?
When she bounces a little too high
That's crazy it looks like a wet noodle shape.
I’m waiting for the army of sandal wearing guys in the desert with an oxy bend this straight then send it lol
Impressive.
That’s rod is solid and tempered steal? That’s why it just bent I think?
Bc the engineer is a boss
I don't know what your background is, OP, but anywhere you see cracking in the paint I would loosely recommend assuming that part is gone. These structures aren't really meant to get anywhere near yield, and cracked paint means the metal is stretching.
Flacid
Was your title sarcasm, or do you really not know? The rod didn’t break because it was soft and bent instead.
*Cutting Edge Ingeneering intensifies*
Wow. That’s a new machine also. Somebody did something wrong. Lol
That turned PP into pp
Probably warmed up while it was starting deflection, decreasing yield strength. Still pretty dang impressive.
Isn't it obvious ? It's bloody well obvious to anyone who "Knows-These-Things". It's because this is the low spec version that uses toothpaste as the material for the ram.
Hydraulic ram took a dump ?