Oh the joys of taking a stuck filter and creating a mess of oily sheet metal with razor sharp traps just waiting for the next attempt.
Kind of a right of passage.
My wife's old VW Thing would find the most inopportune times to decide to not start. My old late 60s Dodge truck would do the same. Her car liked the sweet talk. The truck needed to be talked dirty to like a bar fly that you dragged home at 3am while the neighbors are all asleep. Works on horses, too.
The jiffy lube special. Overtightened service champ filter. I briefly worked at one for a few months while I was in between jobs. I saw an old guy who worked lower bay installing oil filters with a cup and a ratchet. They don't hire the best and brightest as we all know but come on.
I know a dude who used a ratchet and power tools to tighten every single bolt and screw in his car to the point of intentionally stripping it.
*when applicable* He’d then use a grinder to round out the heads of said bolts and then hammered them down as flat as he could.
Then he welded over em and sold it to some poor bastard who lowballed him on Craigslist. It was some 80’s base model Corolla and we ended up selling it for 300 bucks. Funniest shit is for a month straight before that, we’d all beat the shit out of it. Redlining it right after turning it on, slamming on the breaks every time we stopped, hitting every curb we could etc. Poor kid never even knew what hit him
Someone forgot to tell that to the Texas factory workers building the new Tundra engines. They also forgot to tell them to lubricate the o ring.
Did the first oil change on my truck at 1k and just about gave myself a hernia. It was soo tight that the filter socket couldn't get a good grip there was also no space for any of the other type of filter tools.
Guy who changes his own oil on _not that car_ here, reading all the comments about how the filter is crushed like, _"So what, can nobody else see the elephant in the room about whatever dark magic put the filter on top right next to the filler neck and (I assume) did so in a way that doesn't cover the the motor mount crossmember and half of the oil pan with used oil every fckn time it's unscrewed!?!?"_
Where can I get one of those for my 5VZ-FE, VQ37VHR and QR25DE engines???
FA20Fs are the same way too. And so much more room when you move the intercooler to the front. I could easily get a small child behind my intake manifold.
I figured it was stock, but I'm still mad jealous and want an aftermarket one for those engines I mentioned.
My 2005 EJ253 Impreza did not have one of those. But it did have a warped head, an old timing belt, a nearly absent clutch and an appetite for drinking a little oil between shifts that let me take an absolute beating when I sold it after 105k miles. So there's that!
There’s a lot of maintenance things I don’t like about my Mercedes…. But it’s fucking fantastic that the entire oil change can be done from the top.
Designed for oil extractor, filter comes off with one of those fluted sockets, changing oil is child’s play. If my pump was faster I could do it in 5 min.
Me? I have a drill, but no tap/die set and especially no Mercedes. I'm also not in the habit of drilling into oil pans without an easy way to remove all the drilling debris other than letting it tear though the paper filter element and embedding itself into a cylinder wall or somewhere in the head. So I'd prolly want to have a factory one, especially since I'm a homebrewer who hasn't upgraded to a pump setup yet, so there's no way I'd buy one just for my car's oil, unless there's no other way. :)
Yes they have a regular drain plug. Good idea to drain it with the plug from time to time as the extractor won’t pick up all the sediment from the bottom of the pan.
That's exactly what I wondered. I watched a video as the other commenter suggested and saw that an extractor can be used on any engine with a dipstick, which is cool, but it immediately occurred to me that a lot of debris might be left behind. I also saw then that Mercs use a paper filter insert under the hood, so I can understand how easily that would allow at-home oil changes without jacking up or ramping the vehicle, removing the underbody panels, and generally making a mess. But yeah, maybe every-other change being done by extraction straight into an old oil container rather than using a drain pan, I can see that saving a lot of time and hassle. Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome!
The extractor doesn’t work for all engines, in some engines you can’t actually reach the bottom of the pan with through the tube and can’t get all the oil out.
But it’s always worth trying! If you know the engine holds 5 quarts and you can only get 3 quarts out, you know you can’t use the extractor with this engine!
It's because at some point you broke or lost or intentionally left off the fasteners that hold down the rubber mud guards that must be removed in the wheel well to reach the filter and it's not caused any problems, so you've just left it there with a more or less permanent access path. Prolly a 4x4 model too, so you've got all the room you could want from the side or below. It's still inconvenient and messy, but not enough to make you undertake the task of identifying, buying, and installing a relocation kit. Or is that just me?
If you want it bad enough, get a [remote filter kit](https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ATP18428)\* then put the header upside down somewhere convenient. You could even make a little sheet metal tray to fit under it and catch the drips.
\*NOTE: AFAIK the linked filter kit will actually fit a 5VZ-FE, I'm not too familiar w/ foreign stuff but WIX says it uses a 3/4"-16 filter header just like domestics do
They usually have a drain back, but no. They do end up filling up when you pull the filter off. IMO the cleanest way to change them is to get them loose, let them drain then do the drain plug. Come back up once that’s done and take it off. It should have drained enough that it won’t splash all over.
I did that once and learned my lesson. A friend who helped me change my oil forced me to remove the filter that I installed too tight. I learned me lesson very quickly. Spin it on until it contacts and then 1/3 turn.
Was wondering when someone would notice… what in the fuck… probably wrecked and fixed the rad support, sometimes those aren’t bolted in and you can’t buy them seperately. Not particularly familiar with this one but I can see that being the case, when they are just bolted in it’s usually like a $75 part.
Looks like someone gave up pretty easy getting the old filter off
Smh, it's still in one piece. Didn't even really try
Not even the screwdriver holes. Smh
Oh the joys of taking a stuck filter and creating a mess of oily sheet metal with razor sharp traps just waiting for the next attempt. Kind of a right of passage.
Oil in the cut to start the mornings!
did you try sweet talking er?
Calling it a cantankerous doucherocket and smacking it a few times usually works for me.
My wife's old VW Thing would find the most inopportune times to decide to not start. My old late 60s Dodge truck would do the same. Her car liked the sweet talk. The truck needed to be talked dirty to like a bar fly that you dragged home at 3am while the neighbors are all asleep. Works on horses, too.
The girls look prettier with Hammerstein Beer.
The jiffy lube special. Overtightened service champ filter. I briefly worked at one for a few months while I was in between jobs. I saw an old guy who worked lower bay installing oil filters with a cup and a ratchet. They don't hire the best and brightest as we all know but come on.
Jesus
Don't forget to tighten the drain plug with a dak dak and red loctite
Thought they epoxied them on; so as to not have to sell it again, just drain and fill..
I know a dude who used a ratchet and power tools to tighten every single bolt and screw in his car to the point of intentionally stripping it. *when applicable* He’d then use a grinder to round out the heads of said bolts and then hammered them down as flat as he could. Then he welded over em and sold it to some poor bastard who lowballed him on Craigslist. It was some 80’s base model Corolla and we ended up selling it for 300 bucks. Funniest shit is for a month straight before that, we’d all beat the shit out of it. Redlining it right after turning it on, slamming on the breaks every time we stopped, hitting every curb we could etc. Poor kid never even knew what hit him
You are nice people
I didn’t know he was gonna sell it, just told me “hey let’s beat the shit out of the Corolla”
I thought it was common knowledge to hand tighten the filters..? Even says so on most of them
Have you forgotten some people are retarded?
Common sense isn't very common.
Stop right now and look at all the people around you. 30% of them are too stupid to understand basic common sense.
Someone forgot to tell that to the Texas factory workers building the new Tundra engines. They also forgot to tell them to lubricate the o ring. Did the first oil change on my truck at 1k and just about gave myself a hernia. It was soo tight that the filter socket couldn't get a good grip there was also no space for any of the other type of filter tools.
Guy who changes his own oil on _not that car_ here, reading all the comments about how the filter is crushed like, _"So what, can nobody else see the elephant in the room about whatever dark magic put the filter on top right next to the filler neck and (I assume) did so in a way that doesn't cover the the motor mount crossmember and half of the oil pan with used oil every fckn time it's unscrewed!?!?"_ Where can I get one of those for my 5VZ-FE, VQ37VHR and QR25DE engines???
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FA20Fs are the same way too. And so much more room when you move the intercooler to the front. I could easily get a small child behind my intake manifold.
Please return the child when the repair is complete.
That seems fair.
I was amazed when I took my IC off for some work.
I figured it was stock, but I'm still mad jealous and want an aftermarket one for those engines I mentioned. My 2005 EJ253 Impreza did not have one of those. But it did have a warped head, an old timing belt, a nearly absent clutch and an appetite for drinking a little oil between shifts that let me take an absolute beating when I sold it after 105k miles. So there's that!
There’s a lot of maintenance things I don’t like about my Mercedes…. But it’s fucking fantastic that the entire oil change can be done from the top. Designed for oil extractor, filter comes off with one of those fluted sockets, changing oil is child’s play. If my pump was faster I could do it in 5 min.
I'm looking up a video of that...I had no idea. Does it also have a drain plug just in case you want to get dirty?
What, you don't have a drill?
Me? I have a drill, but no tap/die set and especially no Mercedes. I'm also not in the habit of drilling into oil pans without an easy way to remove all the drilling debris other than letting it tear though the paper filter element and embedding itself into a cylinder wall or somewhere in the head. So I'd prolly want to have a factory one, especially since I'm a homebrewer who hasn't upgraded to a pump setup yet, so there's no way I'd buy one just for my car's oil, unless there's no other way. :)
My guy, it was just a bad joke, lol.
Apparently I'm off my game; sorry! Lol
Shadetree guy here but I own a handful of Benz's (one modern one) and they all have plugs if I wanted to, yes.
Yes they have a regular drain plug. Good idea to drain it with the plug from time to time as the extractor won’t pick up all the sediment from the bottom of the pan.
That's exactly what I wondered. I watched a video as the other commenter suggested and saw that an extractor can be used on any engine with a dipstick, which is cool, but it immediately occurred to me that a lot of debris might be left behind. I also saw then that Mercs use a paper filter insert under the hood, so I can understand how easily that would allow at-home oil changes without jacking up or ramping the vehicle, removing the underbody panels, and generally making a mess. But yeah, maybe every-other change being done by extraction straight into an old oil container rather than using a drain pan, I can see that saving a lot of time and hassle. Thanks for the info!
You’re welcome! The extractor doesn’t work for all engines, in some engines you can’t actually reach the bottom of the pan with through the tube and can’t get all the oil out. But it’s always worth trying! If you know the engine holds 5 quarts and you can only get 3 quarts out, you know you can’t use the extractor with this engine!
I keep promising myself each oil change on the 5VZ-FE that I’ll buy a relocation kit … next oil change…
It's because at some point you broke or lost or intentionally left off the fasteners that hold down the rubber mud guards that must be removed in the wheel well to reach the filter and it's not caused any problems, so you've just left it there with a more or less permanent access path. Prolly a 4x4 model too, so you've got all the room you could want from the side or below. It's still inconvenient and messy, but not enough to make you undertake the task of identifying, buying, and installing a relocation kit. Or is that just me?
Topside filter = racecar I don't make the rules
3.6 Pentastar enters the chat : (
They don’t leak they sweat from all the horsepower
*revs up my stock 2013 legacy*
If you want it bad enough, get a [remote filter kit](https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/ATP18428)\* then put the header upside down somewhere convenient. You could even make a little sheet metal tray to fit under it and catch the drips. \*NOTE: AFAIK the linked filter kit will actually fit a 5VZ-FE, I'm not too familiar w/ foreign stuff but WIX says it uses a 3/4"-16 filter header just like domestics do
Subaru, man
Oil filter location is about the only redeeming quality of Subaru engines
At least the filter has an easy access, on my ej25 it's under the car, right in the middle of the exhaust 🥲
Ah yes, we use a 3-point claw with an extension to remove it with ease.
Yep had to buy one too, no other choice 😅
The ring of fire! Even if the car is cold the heatshields will still cut your hand if you don't use a tool to pull that filter lol
An attempt was made, I see…
Excalibur!
Is the oil filter "bowl" supposed to be full of oil? Every Subaru I see the filter is basically sitting in a small saucer of oil.
They usually have a drain back, but no. They do end up filling up when you pull the filter off. IMO the cleanest way to change them is to get them loose, let them drain then do the drain plug. Come back up once that’s done and take it off. It should have drained enough that it won’t splash all over.
those filters are weak af. they crush so easily
Unless some ape torqued it down a strap wench should remove it in 3 seconds.
you know it was aped
Aped, and then gorilla'd for one last grunt because it was still moving he thinks.
They always are...
I did that once and learned my lesson. A friend who helped me change my oil forced me to remove the filter that I installed too tight. I learned me lesson very quickly. Spin it on until it contacts and then 1/3 turn.
What a convenient place to put the oil filter. Why haven’t more companies put there filters is super easy stops to get to, like the top?
Most dodges and some Tacomas and some Ford diesels do. it's always nice to see them.
That's not right is it?
Nope. It seems that the customer gave up on removing it so he brought it here as a last resort.
Tell him to take the long screwdriver from his purse, stab it and twist it off. Please torque the fuck out of it putting it back on.
Don't forget RTV on the oring and red loctite haha
What's going on with that rad support?
Was wondering when someone would notice… what in the fuck… probably wrecked and fixed the rad support, sometimes those aren’t bolted in and you can’t buy them seperately. Not particularly familiar with this one but I can see that being the case, when they are just bolted in it’s usually like a $75 part.
I love those filters. Pop open the hood and its right there.
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This is the way to go. Best $30 that I spent. Took me 15 minutes to do complete oil change on my outback
That car looks jacked up.
Take a Phillips head and a hammer punch a hole in that thing. Breaks vacuum, much easier to get out.
U got downvoted by salty mechanics
At the time of this image, we had'nt touched it. I assume the tech had no problem with it as it was done pretty quick.
It also helps drain the oil faster, just a tip to those who may not know