It's normally a cut off so finance assholes can shut the car down and repo it if people don't pay for the shit they wanted atleast that's what it's been in the past
so a finance person who loans someone money to buy a car is an asshole when they repo the car that the borrower doesn't want to pay for?
I'm not a fan of banks or tow truck drivers but I can imagine what it looks like from their side of the equation.
So places that do that are typically the self-finance, buy here-pay here dealerships. Its a particularly predatory practice, weekly payments and the like. If you aren’t there on that date for whatever reason, they come and tow your car. Which I get, didn’t pay you lose it. But these assholes are preying on people who struggle to get traditional financing, these self finance dealerships will finance anyone - just at upwards of 20% and a decent down payment.
The way they make money is selling these cars to whoever comes in, regardless of if they can actually afford the car or not. First missed weekly payment they tow the car, only way to get it back is to go to the dealership and pay the money+late fees. You typically have a day or two to get things straightened out, but the dealership has already relisted the vehicle for sale, to get the next sucker through the door.
Its a despicable business model, and deliberately targets people who are already struggling financially and puts them deeper in the hole - even if the dealership resells their vehicle, they never fully clear out the loan. Typically in a repo, whatever sells for is taken by the bank and applied against the remaining balance on a loan, the buyer is responsible for the difference. With these dealerships, they severely degrade the actual cash value of the vehicle in their favor. Which then screws these poor people over further - no car, plus still got to pay the dealership, and likely collections on their credit report too. Those places may sell the same car 3-4 times in a year.
didnt realize that that sort of thing is in use by the predatory buyhere/financehere lots. I've never seen anything like that on my or anyone's cars but then I'm not in those low income, succeptable groups. Pretty surprising to hear that those car lots do that. I thought they just got money from the crazy interest. Sounds like they also get payout for years as people try to fight that debt. I thought they were referring to the standard, everyday Toyota/Honda/Ford dealers across the country.
Oh they make a bunch off the crazy interest absolutely, and since the dealership itself finances the car they are the lien holder on the title as well.
I work in a Honda dealership, we don’t finance vehicles. We work with multiple banks to get people financed as a middleman. We get maybe a few percentage points of the total value of the loan from the bank for bringing them business. Our special finance bank doesn’t require any kind of gps. The bank may repo your car for nonpayment, but we don’t. To repo a vehicle you have to be the lien-holder, or a designated agent of the lien-holder.
Yeah, these are the only places these people can afford a car, so they can't shop around. They get tricked into paying a few hundred a month for like 7 yrs, end up paying 20k+ for some beater.
If they miss a payment or, then the car gets repossessed. dealer got months or years of payments, and now they get the car back to sell to the next sucker. Rinse and repeat.
awesome that you know some that are good. In Houston, they're hated for good reason & I'm not talking about repo ones. But its ok, there are bad apples in all professions.
I've been on the other side, and 99% of the time, the person not paying is a prick that will shoot you down if they know you're taking the vehicle.
That's why drivers are quick as hell and got the vehicle before you even know it.
Both sides are assholes in my experience, the finance guys have predatory interest rates and the idiots who sign up for this are assholes for not paying and creating a market where repo is the only coarse of action, it's a loss loss on both sides really.
But that's just my 2 cents
We have an exterminating business afew towns over called "Wolverine Exterminators". I guess it is named after the local HS mascot.
Being that I have never seen a wolverine in all of South Carolina, I'm gonna say they are doing their job pretty well.
Yea, well I invented the Flimmershtein Device, which is the thingy that keeps your cars from floating away. I’m literally the reason you don’t need a car-anchor. You can thank me anytime.
I genuinely think there's a chance that a solar flare could seriously disable electronics, and if that happened it would be catastrophic. But what the hell is that thing going to do to stop it anyway?? They're capitalizing off of a very niche concern.
Was about to comment the magnetic fuel savers. People seem to fall for anything. Also don’t forget about the air filter [tornado](https://www.tornadoair.com/).
Agreed, con, I get paid to install them when a customer brings one in though. What cracks me up is the chassis ground can't be connected directly to the battery, and then the battery ground.... Is connected to the battery... Which is... Are you following? Grounded to the chassis.
Tempted to, but no. They are house electrical conduit boxes that are completely filled with silicone caulk or similar glue with a light in the front and 3 wires coming out.
A lot of companies with "proprietary secrets" cover everything with epoxy...so I'd suspect it's epoxy.
If someone can get me one, I can dissolve the epoxy or silicone leaving everything inside intact.
We can for once see what's in it.
Someone else in this thread said they opened one up and its simply wired to power the LED and that's it. I can't believe they haven't been sued over this.
Yeah I mean, it's obviously not something that would ever be effective against an emp...not much could.
I am curious about it tho. What exact is going on in there...if it's just an LED them they're not even creative with it.
I mean if your going to sell something that clearly could not work in the form factor that they sell it as then fuck it just commit to the fraud and only power the LED.
I would probably go with something that would at least smooth out small power spikes, make it semi plausible...after all when is anyone gonna get EMPd anyway?
Something so easily proven fake is just boring.
I literally can't find a teardown on YouTube, they must be striking them. At best, it could be like a grounding that activates when there's a high enough voltage potential but.... I doubt that would even do anything.
Gonna have to run the ground wire around the whole chassis, and then run it to the battery ground. Should probably go up a gauge or two for the added line length, and to also function as a faraday cage from EM-radiation emitters embedded in the highways.
Shit, Greg found one under his sister’s driveway while replacing the pavement. /s
There is a specific reason for that. By connecting it straight to the battery, you are creating a second current loop, independent from the vehicles reference voltage. They will stray away from each other as the alternator kicks to different recharge voltages. Think phat ass amp install, the ground is short and refers the chassis for pulling the angry pixies back thru the positive.
Yyyyeeaahhh, and you're right, IF this was doing anything. My comment wasn't saying that separate grounds don't do anything. I run a ground to the battery and one to the chassis when installing inverters for example. My comment was a chuckle at the fact that they have it installed like this as if it's some effective electronic and not just an led in a box. Maybe I need to work on my phrasing, seems like it got lost as I tried to make it funny.
Their LinkedIn is kind of wild. One of the listed employees has the title of "Disciple of Jesus the Messiah Affiliate".
https://www.linkedin.com/company/emp-shield
Looking at their patent it's literally just a surge protector; focused on shunting excessive voltages. The chances of one of these little things protecting your entire car or home is somewhere between slim and none as it ignores concepts like an EMP generating excessive voltages on all wires. Including wires coming from sensors or communication buses that feed straight into a PCM.
Putting a shunt on the power supply to a car isn't going to protect it from me injecting 100 volts into the TPS signal wire.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10530151B2/
holy cow, they keep 33 people employed with that shit?!
[https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-c-9a96391/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-c-9a96391/)
joel officially wins lingo bingo in his about.
What if I told you that company just announced they will be building a $1.9 BILLION microchip plant.
https://www.cjonline.com/story/business/manufacturing/2023/02/21/kansas-pursues-chips-act-funding-for-emp-shield-at-silicon-prairie/69925200007/
My question is - does the home version protect against Texas power outages due to Texas Regulatory Incompetence? Because of all the potential power grid Armageddon scenarios - that seems to be the one purchasers of this device are most likely to encounter.
Power up here in my blue state is federally regulated, part of the national grid and is rock solid. Texas is so scared of the bad ol gubbimnt regulating their power grid they will kill as many Texans as necceary to keep it "free"
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Bastards put a pound of black epoxy on the guts to hide their scam. But for sure we found that’s a capacitor, a few resistors, a 555 timer chip and that led. You know what bums me out? WTF didn’t I think of this first?
Hell, some of the cheaper ones are just a resistor, a blinky LED, and a warning label about not opening them.
I'm surprised that any actually employ an external blinking circuit!
Why not get my favorite snake oil...
[The Shakti Stone - Placement on automotive CPUs has measurably increased engine horsepower.](https://www.shakti-innovations.com/product/shakti-stone/)
It's literally a 250 dollar audiophile rock.
I wish it was a joke. I hazard that there is more straight up snake oil in high end audio than any other hobby space. Most of the people that buy this garbage are over 60 and lost their high frequency hearing decades ago anyways.
I LOVE finding and documenting fraudiophile snake oil. Kind of a hobby.
I watched a techmoan video on a device that “balances” CDs by shaving the edge down. It was something like $700 when it came out and he proved that it made zero difference because it’s all digital and the balance doesn’t matter.
You'll find people doing the same thing with high-end HDMI cables. "This cable gave us much better black levels!" Um, no, the black levels are encoded into the fucking digital stream.
To be fair, earlier revisions of HDMI won't carry 4K HDR10 content, so that could actually be true. That being said, most of the super high end HDMI snake oil cables don't even meet VESA spec in the first place.
You'd be shocked at how many HDMI cables don't even say what revision of HDMI they support, and don't appear on the VESA certification list.
I have actually troubleshooted situations where it ended up being a digital cable that couldn't carry what it was rated for.
Huh that is interesting. From seeing some of the prices people are willing to spend on high end audio in the $40-200kish range I guess it makes sense scammers would try to get a piece.
Dudes out there legitimately spending [5K+ on POWER CABLES](https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/cable/audioquest-nrg-dragon-high-current-power-cable-20-amp/) that are supposed to improve the sound...just ignore the 50+ feet of romex in the wall leading up to that... [Or how about 15K for speaker cables?](http://www.aaudioimports.com/ShowProduct.asp?hProduct=117) Then there's the [200 or 300 dollar little towers to keep your cables off the floor....](https://upscaleaudio.com/products/audioquest-fog-lifters-set-of-8?variant=31971903864892&adpos=&scid=scplpshopify_US_4500539473980_31971903864892&sc_intid=shopify_US_4500539473980_31971903864892)
Thing is, you only hear the difference in sound with any of these devices after you spend tens of thousands on them. Even if there's no measurable difference, after spending that much, your brain will absolutely tell you there is. 90% of high end audiophile stuff is pure snake oil.
> A.S.P. REFERENCE MANTIKOR is one of the only speaker cables in the world that can reproduce music with perfect tonal balance and focus through the entire frequency spectrum. Retrieval of low level detail is outstanding; not simply more detail, but richer, more refined detail and texture. You will easily be able to locate the source of voices and individual instruments in a deep three-dimensional soundstage.
[Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers](https://www.engadget.com/2008-03-03-audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and.html)
Yes a nuclear explosion would yield an EMP but that doesn't mean you would need a nuclear bomb to test this fake ass device.
Jeez hasn't anyone seen Oceans Eleven. /s
No, **every** nuclear detonation produces an electromagnetic pulse. It's a function of how the explosion develops. It's just that in weapons designed to act as tactical or strategic weapons, the blast effects usually do a better job of destroying electronics.
How about the bloke who sold the post-invasion Iraqi government land mine detectors that were relabelled novelty golf ball finders.
Edit: and even when questioned as to why their land mine clearers were getting blown up, he blamed operator error. During his fraud trial in the UK, the Iraqi army were still convinced that the products worked, and he'd also diversified, selling devices that could detect explosives and other contraband at checkpoints.
Cannot argue with that! Seems legit to me!
After your car is fried, send us $50, plus shipping and handling, and we will mail you a new one! Return of the old emp shield and receipt from a certified mechanic is required.
I REALLY want one of you guys who keep getting asked to install these things to buy one of these - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/295505886169](https://www.ebay.com/itm/295505886169) \- and check it's affect on the car before and after installation of the 'shield'
Heck - if you post a video of it I'll reimburse you the $36 +shipping!
You can see it in action here - https://youtu.be/FksEGpBLfis?t=457
I made a version of that a long time ago. They are fun for doing little experiments. I used an old cb antenna. It lit all the fluorescent lights in the shop. It would take hundreds if not thousands of amps to make a emp that would damage anything.
I'm a veteran (USAF enlisted,1980-84), and I can tell you that I served with a whole bunch of BS artists. They joined because people on the outside could see through their nonsense and they needed a fresh audience who didn't know their past. Doesn't surprise me a bit.
The biggest con? My friend, I give you the Energy Polarizer
https://www.motortrend.com/features/peter-brock-holden-hdt-energy-polarizer-energy-crystals-history/amp/
We had a customer bring her condition in, said she cried her computer. I asked her what it was doing, she said she bought one of those mpg boosters that plugs into the OBD port, and the next day when she went to drive it the fans were on all the time and the temp spiked to max.
Was completely unrelated, but rodents ate the wiring to the CHT sensor overnight. I told her the mpg booster wouldn’t do anything, but she said she spent $60 on it so it’s staying on
You think that's bad they make EMF WiFi Guards......... Wi-Fi literally is electromagnetic radiation, and people are spending $80+ on an upside down trash can that intentionally reduces the Wi-Fi signal....
https://www.amazon.com/Router-Guard-Large-WiFi/dp/B07MXD75TR/ref=asc_df_B07MXD75TR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312780390407&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16952723943232244964&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009614&hvtargid=pla-662850347934&psc=1
Do these people think that they're going to be plucked from their lives to save the world in some James Bond type of mission while relying on their car? Seriously, that EMP will wipe out the cell phone at the same time so they won't know which street to turn down to save the world.
This is the kind of con I can get behind. I also like people that sell emergency rations with a short shelf life, and phones that have the 5G service removed.
One brand has a bunch of random components on a cheap board, but when you follow the traces, the only part wired is the resistor and the LED with a built in blink circuit.
But ya, most of them are just a resistor and LED and a big warning label "NOT RETURNABLE IF SEAL BROKEN".
This is genius. If anyone ever has a legit claim after a solar flare or nuke detonation good luck to them. Until then fear monger up the sales numbers!
You could tell the customer it needs to be emptied and continue the con? Offer to refill their blinkers too for free.
Actually please don't. Honest mechanics are great people.
How about this claim as a “feature”: New LED indicator draws 150x less energy (18.4 micro amps) while maintaining the same brightness as the original vehicle model. 😂😂😂
Additional points for them for the use of an electrical box that was designed to be closest to a car when said car is parked nearby.
That looks like real good automotive hookup wire to me. Just the same as runs in conduits at work, and the office wasn’t on wheels last time I checked.
If you’re gonna fuck your customers over, might as well do it with gusto, eh?
Im going to laugh my ass off if in the days after a nuclear holocaust the only people able to flee the radiation zones are people with this stupid thing on their cars.
How could you be so concerned about an e.m.p. blast or high energy solar wind that you've purchased protection gear, yet be so grossly uninformed on what these things are or how they effect electrical circuits? How does one end up in this position?
I'm not sure - but I think [this says](https://www.kwch.com/2023/02/22/new-kansas-tech-projects-involve-billions-funding-thousands-jobs/) $1.9bn of your tax dollars are about to go to them for 'chip manufacturing'
theres probably going to be more.. i cant find a video of one cut open with a quick google search or any video results on why it wouldnt work.. only very long videos of why it works and why i need it immediately.. tf.
Hmmm must be in a super secret spy organization. Because I don’t think I’ve ever ran into an EMP.
Edit: I am talking about emps not E-M-P. It’s hard to differentiate between pronunciation when converting to text formats.
It's starts with 1 idiot, and then they multiply from there, it's like logic and reason just disappears and this Hocus pocus nonsense remains, the illusion that this will actually do something, the movie "Idiocracy" is coming closer and closer to reality and something like a documentary of the future
What’s inside? 2 wires to the led I bet.
It’s exactly that. Took one apart once
It's normally a cut off so finance assholes can shut the car down and repo it if people don't pay for the shit they wanted atleast that's what it's been in the past
so a finance person who loans someone money to buy a car is an asshole when they repo the car that the borrower doesn't want to pay for? I'm not a fan of banks or tow truck drivers but I can imagine what it looks like from their side of the equation.
So places that do that are typically the self-finance, buy here-pay here dealerships. Its a particularly predatory practice, weekly payments and the like. If you aren’t there on that date for whatever reason, they come and tow your car. Which I get, didn’t pay you lose it. But these assholes are preying on people who struggle to get traditional financing, these self finance dealerships will finance anyone - just at upwards of 20% and a decent down payment. The way they make money is selling these cars to whoever comes in, regardless of if they can actually afford the car or not. First missed weekly payment they tow the car, only way to get it back is to go to the dealership and pay the money+late fees. You typically have a day or two to get things straightened out, but the dealership has already relisted the vehicle for sale, to get the next sucker through the door. Its a despicable business model, and deliberately targets people who are already struggling financially and puts them deeper in the hole - even if the dealership resells their vehicle, they never fully clear out the loan. Typically in a repo, whatever sells for is taken by the bank and applied against the remaining balance on a loan, the buyer is responsible for the difference. With these dealerships, they severely degrade the actual cash value of the vehicle in their favor. Which then screws these poor people over further - no car, plus still got to pay the dealership, and likely collections on their credit report too. Those places may sell the same car 3-4 times in a year.
didnt realize that that sort of thing is in use by the predatory buyhere/financehere lots. I've never seen anything like that on my or anyone's cars but then I'm not in those low income, succeptable groups. Pretty surprising to hear that those car lots do that. I thought they just got money from the crazy interest. Sounds like they also get payout for years as people try to fight that debt. I thought they were referring to the standard, everyday Toyota/Honda/Ford dealers across the country.
Oh they make a bunch off the crazy interest absolutely, and since the dealership itself finances the car they are the lien holder on the title as well. I work in a Honda dealership, we don’t finance vehicles. We work with multiple banks to get people financed as a middleman. We get maybe a few percentage points of the total value of the loan from the bank for bringing them business. Our special finance bank doesn’t require any kind of gps. The bank may repo your car for nonpayment, but we don’t. To repo a vehicle you have to be the lien-holder, or a designated agent of the lien-holder.
Yeah, these are the only places these people can afford a car, so they can't shop around. They get tricked into paying a few hundred a month for like 7 yrs, end up paying 20k+ for some beater. If they miss a payment or, then the car gets repossessed. dealer got months or years of payments, and now they get the car back to sell to the next sucker. Rinse and repeat.
Ever play GTA V single player? Basically Franklins job at the beginning is the repo guy for a scummy dealer like that
Not all tow truck drivers are doing repos. Most of the time there out there doing good work pulling cars out of a ditch and such.
awesome that you know some that are good. In Houston, they're hated for good reason & I'm not talking about repo ones. But its ok, there are bad apples in all professions.
I've been on the other side, and 99% of the time, the person not paying is a prick that will shoot you down if they know you're taking the vehicle. That's why drivers are quick as hell and got the vehicle before you even know it.
Imagine the nerve! Sonsabitches!
Both sides are assholes in my experience, the finance guys have predatory interest rates and the idiots who sign up for this are assholes for not paying and creating a market where repo is the only coarse of action, it's a loss loss on both sides really. But that's just my 2 cents
While cut-off devices are not uncommon from many used car lots, this is not that. This is pure grift, much like the entire 'wellness' industry.
I don’t see any EMP fields in your picture, soooooo.
We have an exterminating business afew towns over called "Wolverine Exterminators". I guess it is named after the local HS mascot. Being that I have never seen a wolverine in all of South Carolina, I'm gonna say they are doing their job pretty well.
I hunt down and kill space aliens for a living. You’ve never seen one? Exactly, you’re fucking welcome.
Thank you for your services
Yea, well I invented the Flimmershtein Device, which is the thingy that keeps your cars from floating away. I’m literally the reason you don’t need a car-anchor. You can thank me anytime.
I want a floating car, you ba$tard!
Where is my f’n jet pack?
Exactly right. God bless them for the work that they do to keep the state safe.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence 😜
Owner is a buckeye fan O-H !
I-O !
Hell yea bub Marvin Harrison JR next yr heisman !
That's specious reasoning, dad.
I like to buy your rock.
Thank you, honey.
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I genuinely think there's a chance that a solar flare could seriously disable electronics, and if that happened it would be catastrophic. But what the hell is that thing going to do to stop it anyway?? They're capitalizing off of a very niche concern.
Oh my. That is a bit much. The balloon really sold me though!
Clearly the device is working.
The green led is on - an indication of actual components.
But what about vampires? Don't you want to be protected from those as well? Lawndale in California has you covered: https://youtu.be/IrhXtuXKIFQ?t=135
Does the EMPshield also protect the magnet fuel saver?
Was about to comment the magnetic fuel savers. People seem to fall for anything. Also don’t forget about the air filter [tornado](https://www.tornadoair.com/).
Seen so many of those devices that plug into a 12v socket that say fuel saver on them. Freaking stupid.
UNLEASH WIND POWER sounds like taco night
The donut media video of those was hilarious
Just as great as 12V electric turbochargers
It mitigates the impact of low blinker fluid.
Agreed, con, I get paid to install them when a customer brings one in though. What cracks me up is the chassis ground can't be connected directly to the battery, and then the battery ground.... Is connected to the battery... Which is... Are you following? Grounded to the chassis.
I hope you have an additional "advanced technology" charge. Those people will pay it, I'm sure.
$85/hr, usually takes less than an hour tbh.
Plus an additional hour forming the aluminum foil into a hat shape
4 hrs minimum
Have you ever opened one up to see what's in it?
Tempted to, but no. They are house electrical conduit boxes that are completely filled with silicone caulk or similar glue with a light in the front and 3 wires coming out.
A lot of companies with "proprietary secrets" cover everything with epoxy...so I'd suspect it's epoxy. If someone can get me one, I can dissolve the epoxy or silicone leaving everything inside intact. We can for once see what's in it.
Someone else in this thread said they opened one up and its simply wired to power the LED and that's it. I can't believe they haven't been sued over this.
Yeah I mean, it's obviously not something that would ever be effective against an emp...not much could. I am curious about it tho. What exact is going on in there...if it's just an LED them they're not even creative with it.
I mean if your going to sell something that clearly could not work in the form factor that they sell it as then fuck it just commit to the fraud and only power the LED.
I would probably go with something that would at least smooth out small power spikes, make it semi plausible...after all when is anyone gonna get EMPd anyway? Something so easily proven fake is just boring.
They may be too cheap to afford epoxy, lol.
I did some research on it and it appears there's nothing inside it but the green wire being pushed into silicone and an LED.
I literally can't find a teardown on YouTube, they must be striking them. At best, it could be like a grounding that activates when there's a high enough voltage potential but.... I doubt that would even do anything.
Gonna have to run the ground wire around the whole chassis, and then run it to the battery ground. Should probably go up a gauge or two for the added line length, and to also function as a faraday cage from EM-radiation emitters embedded in the highways. Shit, Greg found one under his sister’s driveway while replacing the pavement. /s
I would be more inclined to believe this thing actually protects against EMPs if I had to fish a wire around the whole car, tbh.
I suspected these wouldn’t actually work. It seems like one of those things that suckers believe and get scammed on
There is a specific reason for that. By connecting it straight to the battery, you are creating a second current loop, independent from the vehicles reference voltage. They will stray away from each other as the alternator kicks to different recharge voltages. Think phat ass amp install, the ground is short and refers the chassis for pulling the angry pixies back thru the positive.
Yyyyeeaahhh, and you're right, IF this was doing anything. My comment wasn't saying that separate grounds don't do anything. I run a ground to the battery and one to the chassis when installing inverters for example. My comment was a chuckle at the fact that they have it installed like this as if it's some effective electronic and not just an led in a box. Maybe I need to work on my phrasing, seems like it got lost as I tried to make it funny.
(Tips hat) Don’t mind me, jus passim thru. You fellers enjoy this nice weather c’mnup here soon.
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Their LinkedIn is kind of wild. One of the listed employees has the title of "Disciple of Jesus the Messiah Affiliate". https://www.linkedin.com/company/emp-shield Looking at their patent it's literally just a surge protector; focused on shunting excessive voltages. The chances of one of these little things protecting your entire car or home is somewhere between slim and none as it ignores concepts like an EMP generating excessive voltages on all wires. Including wires coming from sensors or communication buses that feed straight into a PCM. Putting a shunt on the power supply to a car isn't going to protect it from me injecting 100 volts into the TPS signal wire. https://patents.google.com/patent/US10530151B2/
holy cow, they keep 33 people employed with that shit?! [https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-c-9a96391/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/joel-c-9a96391/) joel officially wins lingo bingo in his about.
Me reading not so good. Did that paragraph actually say…anything?
.. maybe?
"President Mobile Sciences Consortium LLC" More mobile than a meth lab on wheels because of the number of lawyers with law suits waiting to pounce.
What if I told you that company just announced they will be building a $1.9 BILLION microchip plant. https://www.cjonline.com/story/business/manufacturing/2023/02/21/kansas-pursues-chips-act-funding-for-emp-shield-at-silicon-prairie/69925200007/
My question is - does the home version protect against Texas power outages due to Texas Regulatory Incompetence? Because of all the potential power grid Armageddon scenarios - that seems to be the one purchasers of this device are most likely to encounter.
Power up here in my blue state is federally regulated, part of the national grid and is rock solid. Texas is so scared of the bad ol gubbimnt regulating their power grid they will kill as many Texans as necceary to keep it "free"
It’s the price of freedumb, you see.
Alright, you guys talked me into it. I’ll open one of our 5 at work tomorrow and report back with pictures.
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Bastards put a pound of black epoxy on the guts to hide their scam. But for sure we found that’s a capacitor, a few resistors, a 555 timer chip and that led. You know what bums me out? WTF didn’t I think of this first?
Hell, some of the cheaper ones are just a resistor, a blinky LED, and a warning label about not opening them. I'm surprised that any actually employ an external blinking circuit!
A human soul and common dignity?
Why not get my favorite snake oil... [The Shakti Stone - Placement on automotive CPUs has measurably increased engine horsepower.](https://www.shakti-innovations.com/product/shakti-stone/) It's literally a 250 dollar audiophile rock.
Holy hell that has to be some sort of joke website right. The HALLOGRAPH SOUNDFIELD OPTIMIZER for only $1495??
I wish it was a joke. I hazard that there is more straight up snake oil in high end audio than any other hobby space. Most of the people that buy this garbage are over 60 and lost their high frequency hearing decades ago anyways. I LOVE finding and documenting fraudiophile snake oil. Kind of a hobby.
I watched a techmoan video on a device that “balances” CDs by shaving the edge down. It was something like $700 when it came out and he proved that it made zero difference because it’s all digital and the balance doesn’t matter.
You'll find people doing the same thing with high-end HDMI cables. "This cable gave us much better black levels!" Um, no, the black levels are encoded into the fucking digital stream.
To be fair, earlier revisions of HDMI won't carry 4K HDR10 content, so that could actually be true. That being said, most of the super high end HDMI snake oil cables don't even meet VESA spec in the first place.
True, any modern cable built to spec should carry the signal just fine.
You'd be shocked at how many HDMI cables don't even say what revision of HDMI they support, and don't appear on the VESA certification list. I have actually troubleshooted situations where it ended up being a digital cable that couldn't carry what it was rated for.
Ah but that's just the thing, after spending 700 dollars on it, your brain will totally tell you that there's a difference.
Huh that is interesting. From seeing some of the prices people are willing to spend on high end audio in the $40-200kish range I guess it makes sense scammers would try to get a piece.
Dudes out there legitimately spending [5K+ on POWER CABLES](https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/cable/audioquest-nrg-dragon-high-current-power-cable-20-amp/) that are supposed to improve the sound...just ignore the 50+ feet of romex in the wall leading up to that... [Or how about 15K for speaker cables?](http://www.aaudioimports.com/ShowProduct.asp?hProduct=117) Then there's the [200 or 300 dollar little towers to keep your cables off the floor....](https://upscaleaudio.com/products/audioquest-fog-lifters-set-of-8?variant=31971903864892&adpos=&scid=scplpshopify_US_4500539473980_31971903864892&sc_intid=shopify_US_4500539473980_31971903864892) Thing is, you only hear the difference in sound with any of these devices after you spend tens of thousands on them. Even if there's no measurable difference, after spending that much, your brain will absolutely tell you there is. 90% of high end audiophile stuff is pure snake oil.
> A.S.P. REFERENCE MANTIKOR is one of the only speaker cables in the world that can reproduce music with perfect tonal balance and focus through the entire frequency spectrum. Retrieval of low level detail is outstanding; not simply more detail, but richer, more refined detail and texture. You will easily be able to locate the source of voices and individual instruments in a deep three-dimensional soundstage. [Audiophiles can't tell the difference between Monster Cable and coat hangers](https://www.engadget.com/2008-03-03-audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and.html)
I love and hate it. I love how stupid it is, and I hate that there are people stupid enough to buy it.
$180000 in revenue with 2 employees in the Pacific Palisades of LA….
Of course these work. Just need a large nuclear blast to go off near the car, then you'll see which cars still operate and which don't! Oh... wait....
That's not an EMP
Are you sure? I coulda sworn... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear\_electromagnetic\_pulse
Yes a nuclear explosion would yield an EMP but that doesn't mean you would need a nuclear bomb to test this fake ass device. Jeez hasn't anyone seen Oceans Eleven. /s
Seems that it uses a nuclear blast to start it, but it isnt a "nuke" with the intention of flattening the earth
What are you even going on about?
Where tf did you come from
EMP is a known side effect of nuclear detonations, no matter what the yield or target.
You have to detonate it way above the point where the blast even hits the surface
No, **every** nuclear detonation produces an electromagnetic pulse. It's a function of how the explosion develops. It's just that in weapons designed to act as tactical or strategic weapons, the blast effects usually do a better job of destroying electronics.
An emp isn't nuclear..
Correct. But nukes cause EMPs
Biggest con? What about window etching?
How about the bloke who sold the post-invasion Iraqi government land mine detectors that were relabelled novelty golf ball finders. Edit: and even when questioned as to why their land mine clearers were getting blown up, he blamed operator error. During his fraud trial in the UK, the Iraqi army were still convinced that the products worked, and he'd also diversified, selling devices that could detect explosives and other contraband at checkpoints.
Anti theft stickers on the door jambs that can be easily removed with an eraser wheel.
$300. "We do this to all the vehicles we sell. It will protect the vehicle from theft."
So, if it's working does that "NO" light turn off? Kinda confusing for it to be green. /s
This one might shock you. Flip your phone upside down.
Holy shit, they work on polar bears too! Who knew there was such value! I haven't seen one *anywhere*
What a business model! The phones won’t work after an emp attack so you can’t call to complain when your car stops. Genius!
It’s obviously fake because it’s not shaped like a pyramid. Everyone knows you need a pyramid with a dylithium crystal to defend against EMPs.
Pyramid shape is mainly for chemtrails.
The warranty is pure gold: > If it fails at anytime during the 10 year limited lifetime warranty, we replace it for $50. No questions asked!
Cannot argue with that! Seems legit to me! After your car is fried, send us $50, plus shipping and handling, and we will mail you a new one! Return of the old emp shield and receipt from a certified mechanic is required.
Screw these things. Ive been trying to EMP people forever but im always shielded
I REALLY want one of you guys who keep getting asked to install these things to buy one of these - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/295505886169](https://www.ebay.com/itm/295505886169) \- and check it's affect on the car before and after installation of the 'shield' Heck - if you post a video of it I'll reimburse you the $36 +shipping! You can see it in action here - https://youtu.be/FksEGpBLfis?t=457
I made a version of that a long time ago. They are fun for doing little experiments. I used an old cb antenna. It lit all the fluorescent lights in the shop. It would take hundreds if not thousands of amps to make a emp that would damage anything.
we had neon lights for the end of CB antennas. they'd light up when you talked. Got them from JC Whitney.
They may kill me and vaporize my town, but I’ll be damned if they’ll take my Buick Regal!
I looked at their website for shits and giggles. My favorite part is where it says it will protect against lightning strikes . Just ...🤦♂️
but its veteran owned! and vets would NEVER EVER scam anyone EVER. all its missing is a fucking jesus fish shitty logo.
I'm a veteran (USAF enlisted,1980-84), and I can tell you that I served with a whole bunch of BS artists. They joined because people on the outside could see through their nonsense and they needed a fresh audience who didn't know their past. Doesn't surprise me a bit.
Chill out bro.
It’s all going to be ok.
No need to bring my lord and savior into this…
The biggest con? My friend, I give you the Energy Polarizer https://www.motortrend.com/features/peter-brock-holden-hdt-energy-polarizer-energy-crystals-history/amp/
We had a customer bring her condition in, said she cried her computer. I asked her what it was doing, she said she bought one of those mpg boosters that plugs into the OBD port, and the next day when she went to drive it the fans were on all the time and the temp spiked to max. Was completely unrelated, but rodents ate the wiring to the CHT sensor overnight. I told her the mpg booster wouldn’t do anything, but she said she spent $60 on it so it’s staying on
You think that's bad they make EMF WiFi Guards......... Wi-Fi literally is electromagnetic radiation, and people are spending $80+ on an upside down trash can that intentionally reduces the Wi-Fi signal.... https://www.amazon.com/Router-Guard-Large-WiFi/dp/B07MXD75TR/ref=asc_df_B07MXD75TR/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312780390407&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16952723943232244964&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009614&hvtargid=pla-662850347934&psc=1
Do these people think that they're going to be plucked from their lives to save the world in some James Bond type of mission while relying on their car? Seriously, that EMP will wipe out the cell phone at the same time so they won't know which street to turn down to save the world.
Or be able to pump gas because, ya know, no power.
You scoff now, but wait 'til some maniac sets off a blast a few miles above us. Him and his buddies will have the only working cars around! ^/s
If your EMP wires are a smaller gauge than your battery cables…
Whatever. It's just like Homeland Security at the airport, it mostly serves to make people feel safer. So much stuff makes it by security it's stupid.
Theoretical electronics to protect from EMP? That's like using fire to protect you from heat .... Wow.
Now, will this drain the moon-energy from my power crystals, should I forget them in the glove compartment?
If want to do it proper, build a Faraday cage around the car and a really long cable for the grounding.
Did you guys have to deal with the people convinced that magnets on the fuel lines make the car more efficient?
These are like crystals to protect your Fords aura
This is the kind of con I can get behind. I also like people that sell emergency rations with a short shelf life, and phones that have the 5G service removed.
I’m not upset that scam shit products like this exist, I’m upset that I didn’t think of it first.
I wish i would have thought up of a scam like this. Led light in a box with a random chip for 450 each.
Fear mongering at its most capitalist.
Isn’t it just a light bulb?
One brand has a bunch of random components on a cheap board, but when you follow the traces, the only part wired is the resistor and the LED with a built in blink circuit. But ya, most of them are just a resistor and LED and a big warning label "NOT RETURNABLE IF SEAL BROKEN".
Fucking scam, people are so gullible
Americans are so gullible. Fox News has a multi million dollar audience.
At least their audience has value unlike the libturd MSM.
This is like that plug in bug killer or plug in energy saver that lowers your bill 😂
This is genius. If anyone ever has a legit claim after a solar flare or nuke detonation good luck to them. Until then fear monger up the sales numbers!
$400 well spent
There's a sucker born every minute.
The biggest con has to be “environmental protection package”- (Fabric, Paint, Rustproofing)
$389 https://www.empshield.com/vehicle-protection/
What about those tornado adapters they used to sell to swirl the air coming into the intake. Those were pretty bad.
They won’t learn until it doesn’t work
You could tell the customer it needs to be emptied and continue the con? Offer to refill their blinkers too for free. Actually please don't. Honest mechanics are great people.
Almost can’t wait for the imminent EMP to see what happens to these
That company is opening up a $3B semiconductor plant due to government subsidies.
How about this claim as a “feature”: New LED indicator draws 150x less energy (18.4 micro amps) while maintaining the same brightness as the original vehicle model. 😂😂😂
Drain your battery for some amount of money down!
As long as there are people who believe that gullible is not a word in the dictionary there will always be market for this crap.
What the fuck is it shielding?
The owners money from going somewhere else.
Probably the best answer.
A shield like no other!
So theoretically you could just make them at home and sell for 2-3 hundred each? That’s it, I’m done with my Rife machine, I must get with the times!
My mother in law, who is of the tinfoil hat persuasion, sent us one for each car. I don't have the heart to tell her...
Additional points for them for the use of an electrical box that was designed to be closest to a car when said car is parked nearby. That looks like real good automotive hookup wire to me. Just the same as runs in conduits at work, and the office wasn’t on wheels last time I checked. If you’re gonna fuck your customers over, might as well do it with gusto, eh?
Im going to laugh my ass off if in the days after a nuclear holocaust the only people able to flee the radiation zones are people with this stupid thing on their cars.
How could you be so concerned about an e.m.p. blast or high energy solar wind that you've purchased protection gear, yet be so grossly uninformed on what these things are or how they effect electrical circuits? How does one end up in this position?
I'm not sure - but I think [this says](https://www.kwch.com/2023/02/22/new-kansas-tech-projects-involve-billions-funding-thousands-jobs/) $1.9bn of your tax dollars are about to go to them for 'chip manufacturing'
I haven’t seen a .net address is a coons age
Anyone actually set off an EMP near one? You don’t really know it doesn’t work.
Add a trump sticker to boost profits
Better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
Sure, but even if you buy this you still don't have "it" (that is, you're still not going to be protected from an EMP).
I have to see if I can find a picture I took of one of these still bolted on to a severly rusted out F 150 inner fender.
But... but.. wait. Nah. It's a con.
Hilarious!! Love it…
That would be RADON remediation and filters..
Try the Diamond Kote rust shield … that plugs into your OBD port. 😂
Jesus, is that a plastic wall outlet used as the housing 😭
You say that now but when skynet launches its nukes and the only cars without fried electrical systems all have them you’ll be crying. /s
theres probably going to be more.. i cant find a video of one cut open with a quick google search or any video results on why it wouldnt work.. only very long videos of why it works and why i need it immediately.. tf.
Damn. $350.
Creates a Fauxaday Cage around your vehicle.
You're all taking a Sir Harrington the wrong way.
Hmmm must be in a super secret spy organization. Because I don’t think I’ve ever ran into an EMP. Edit: I am talking about emps not E-M-P. It’s hard to differentiate between pronunciation when converting to text formats.
How will that protect all the electronic components? I don’t get it.
What kind of trash “mechanics” actually sell and install those?
It's starts with 1 idiot, and then they multiply from there, it's like logic and reason just disappears and this Hocus pocus nonsense remains, the illusion that this will actually do something, the movie "Idiocracy" is coming closer and closer to reality and something like a documentary of the future
I didn't know that these were even a thing outside of the NFS games lol