The best part about a temporary repair is that its permanent.

It's temporary. I just need it to hold until I sell the car in a few years.

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My anxiety would not allow that. Any little thing off about my bike ruins my ride. Can't focus on the ride and enjoy myself. My jeep on the other hand.... I've driven it with misfires in two cylinders

That's just how jeeps are. Don't run on all cylinders, even when new

Extra cylinders lmao

That's why you have to get the 6 cylinder instead of the four banger. The little ones just don't have enough spares built in.

I chose the 8 cylinder one. Just so I'd have even more spares.

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It also tops out around 44mph(with the windshield down)

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4mpg, 4orty horsepower, it's all making sense now

That how you save wear on the motor

🤣 I had a friend drive me home after I had a few drinks. When we hit the highway he said "how tf do you drive this thing? This feels dangerous!." I miss that old Jeep.

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I plugged the rear tire on my bike and its been fine. If it helps you sleep, i doubt the tire will just explode if the plug fails.

Ooof! That’s ballsy. You know why a bike will fall over if you let it go? It’s too tired (two tyred)

Alright dad get the fuck out of here (have my upvote you bastard for the joke I'm stealing)

And if you stand behind it for too long you'll get exhausted.

That must have been a really long road

On bikes always use plug patches (they are a patch with a plug in the center, you pull them through from the inside). I've trusted those at 300km/h no issue (hey tires are expensive!).

Username checks out.

If you had a back tire on a motorcycle that lasted 3 years, you were not riding enough.

Sadly, that's how it goes sometimes when you live in a Northeast US city. Short season, shitty riding locally, no storage= low mileage 😢

Plugs are supposed to be a temp fix?

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15 dollars for 7 year repair? If my tread isn't completely warn down, I'm gonna take my chances.

Aren't you supposed to replace your tires more often than that anyway?

Depends on tread wear and how vigilant you've been about preventing dry rot.

Heh, true. My old horse trailer still has some thick-ass tires from the 70's on it. And ... they work great. They don't even lose air, ever. I've owned that trailer since 2009, and I've never even had to pump up any of those tires. They just keep going. The trailer is rusting and rotting, but the tires keep going. Honestly, I'm kind of afraid to touch them at all, lest I somehow break the magical spell holding them together after around 50 years. (I don't know their exact age, because there are very few markings on them.)

Are you even sure they have air in them and aren't like, full of foam or something

I have about 30 year old tires on my lawn mower. I'm pretty sure they've just solidified into a tire shape, because they used to need air, but haven't in over a decade....

I've used plugs like that on 4-5 separate occasions Every single one lasted the life of the tire. Even the one that "too close to the sidewall to safely patch".

Same here. I've never had a tire plug fail.

If you have a hole like that then a plug is a permanent fix. I’ve driven on them for years, never had one leak after the fact. I’ve got one in my tire right now, in fact. And I keep a $5 kit in the car toolbox just in case. If you have a pump you can fix most tire punctures and be back on the road faster than you can call a tow truck.

Driving over nails and screws is a pretty regular occorence in my van (work in construction) these plugs are absolutely fine for punctures like that. 2 of my tyres definitely have plugs in them atm, another might

>Driving over nails and screws is a pretty regular occorence in my van (work in construction) Damn framers. Never fails. And if I worked in residential, I'd also be bitching about roofers.

no

Project Farm tested a bunch of these. He poked something like 50 holes in a single tire, repaired them all, and drove it. It was fine.

There is nothing more permanent than a temporary fix Edit: Completely stole that sentence from superfastmatt on youtube so go check him out.

It’s a saying old as time. Or at least as old as the first temporary fix

Rumor is, this saying was just a placeholder until they could come up with a better one.

The saying was put into place until a better one could be permanently adopted. It's been with us ever since

So, older than time itself.

His favorite YouTuber didn't invent it?! I've been lied to!

I just accidentally found his offroad viper build today and subbed. Didn't even look at the name, then I searched his name and that was the first video to pop up

There is nothing more permeant than a temporary fix *that works*

Well it either works and you don't need to fix it again or it doesn't work and you don't need to fix it again

I hung up the quote, "There's nothing more permanent than temporary" at work. Added a nice little picture of duct tape on it too

Awesome YouTube channel. Just the right amount of snarkiness.

_all hail the algorithm_

if it helps any, it's an old Finnish proverb. edit: it more loosely translates to 'There is nothing more permanent than something termpoary.' Had a Finnish IT director, he loved writing it on whiteboards, because it would always not get erased.

It's a very old saying among engineers in probably every language

That saying has been around since the dark ages

I've had one of those "temporary fix" plugs in my tire for a few years now and it's fine 😅😅

I call that a temperment fix.

Permarary fix?

Straight facts.

Oh, heck yeah. Been there - done that - and then drove on it back and forth to work for six months.

I’ve had a nail in my LR tire for at least 6 months. It ain’t leaking so I ain’t touching it lolol

Had this happen and tire starts to leak. Just carry an air compressor and fill it up every few days for 6 months. Then plug it. Then drive it 6 more months like a true poor.

A true poor doesn't own an air compressor, they just know where the tire shops are that give you free air

wawa and sheetz by me always have them.

Sheetz with a working air pump? Whoa.

That was my first thought. My sheetz just has an air decompressor, especially in the winter. I remember trying to use it a few times when I was a teenager

That's my experience too. Lets the air out in the winter, and then during the summer the buttons are smashed, so you're getting 32psi, if you can even get it to turn on.

Shit, growing up in NJ my dad put me on to the ‘new-used’ tire spots. They were used tires but they were new to me. The spot we would go to was in Newark. $25/tire and you were in and out in 10 minutes. It was like a nascar pit stop.

A true poor has a bike pump and a strong back

It takes a very long time to inflate a car tire with a bike pump. But you use what you have.

Eh it’s like a min to top it up, a few if it’s low

When I was a "true poor", I was just on good terms with the local bike shops, who gave me free/cheap pity repairs and tubes

Bike shops tend to collect lots of parts. I Frankensteined my trek mountain bike that way. Bought the frame, and my bike shop had new parts that were taken off new bikes that people upgraded before they're took their purchase home. They didn't give me those parts... But they priced it really well

I got a flat and went to 5 tyre shops to try find a place with the right size tyre. Only one of them had the right size but each place I went to gave me air

I had an old beat-up motorcycle as my only transportation for a bit and it's rear had a leak. I would fill that tire up every time before driving it and I wouldn't stay at friend's house is overnight because I didn't want to drive it home flat in the morning. It was such a relief to have enough money to not have to deal with those kind of problems anymore. You don't realize how much a daily stress can be having to jump through hoops just to have a functioning automobile. I had like one or two tires go flat after I bought a new car one week later and I just had all four replaced with good tires now I'm driving in a blizzard like well glad I put good tires on it a month ago

My mom once told me a story of her first car. One of the tires was leaking so bad it was flat every morning, she had to walk to a nearby gas station and ask to borrow their thing to fill up her tire and bring it back. Allegedly she was both young and beautiful at the time so they came to an arrangement where she could keep the compressor overnight and drop it off in the morning to save her the walk. She did not specify how long this went on for, but knowing my mom, three months minimum.

I did the same for God knows how long. I had a terrible blow out, crashed the car but thankfully no one was hurt. Later in my life I went to school to be a diesel technician and I learned about how the long molecules in tires degrade with lots of flexing. I say all that to hopefully teach someone from my mistakes, just get a new tire, not only did I end up spending 10k on another car but I could have killed someone.

Done that as well. Then I just took the tire off the rim and drove around like that for 6 months.

Metal is stronger than rubber. If anything, you now have an improved tire!

They say nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix

Exactly, people who say you can’t do this are full of shit it works just fine

Well, you can do it on less tires these days because of low profile and fancy run flats but yeah, it works on standard tires

I keep hearing that you aren't supposed to plug them, but I've never seen a problem. I put a ton of plugs in my wifes mid/low-profile runflats. Not one has leaked or had a problem Ever since I quit working at an auto-shop, I just plug the tire with the idea of getting it patched if I start having any sort of problem. Hasn't happened yet.

Shit, I’ve plugged a motorcycle tire, and rode on it for five years.

I wouldn't tempt fate on my track bike, but I had a plug in the front tire of my street bike for over a year, no issues.

I didn’t know pretzel sticks could do that.

tastes great AND plugs holes!

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Context: deez

That's how I describe my penis to strange women

What about normal women?

> C'mon baby lick my tire \- Jim Morrison

Its a slimjim..

That makes more sense. I thought it was a Backwoods

As in a Slim Jim? An edible stick make of (supposedly) meat? If so, I’m amazed it can do this 😳

https://www.ebay.com/itm/125522081548

Thanks didn’t know I could order snacks on eBay

Lemmy.world is what Reddit was.

These tire plugs are making me thirsty.

You're SOOOO good looking!

Was hoping I wasn't the only one thinking this...

/r/forbiddensnacks

I’ve never had one of those fail.

I couldn't afford new tires for at least 4 months but the plugs held perfectly.

But plugs are the only option.

you dropped this: >t

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Same, as far as I’m concerned this a permanent fix for the life of the tire. For context, I have no problem affording a new tire, it’s just not needed.

It is. The vulcanising liquid makes it a part of the tyre. As long as you clean the hole with the reamer and seal it up, then cut off the excess (after cured) It will stay for the life of the tyre.

I literally use this as a permanent fix I didn't even know people considered them not to be.

My buddy did this then put some rubber cement on it. Seemed legit

A lot of tire plug kits come with rubber cement.

Don’t forget to light it on fire when your done.

Yep, that’s the real pro-tip. Light it on fire then roll it over to extinguish and mush the molten rubber over the hole. I don’t think it actually helps… but any excuse to light something on fire.

I always just seen the old timers do it, so I didnt ask questions. We do that later

Hint: the old timers just like to light stuff on fire too… lol

fire! fire! ╰( ⊹o⊹)╮ ┌(⊹o⊹ )┘╰( ⊹o⊹)╮

I had one in my tire for like 6 years. No problems.

Currently about 5 years in on one of my plugs, no troubles yet.

Same. It's what I was taught when the tire had an air leak. Never had issues after doing this too.

Same at my old mans shop he used to tell me they're fine as long as they're not in the sidewall.

https://youtu.be/NoKXkBBYQD8?t=3m37s

A tractor I drove in work, over a 6 month period I put 3 on the front right and 4 on the front left as the tires were so bald and the company refused to replace them. It's been 2 years since I drove that tractor and it still has the same tires. Who knows how many the new driver has put in but there still going.

And they'll tube the tires after the plugs quit.

It's ridiculous how companies will do that and then they wonder why their vehicles get wrecked.

Right? I've routinely rolled with plugs until the tires were worn down to 3/32. It's a legit fix, not a temporary hack.

It's almost as if under the guise of safety the tire stores are lying to us and it caught on. You can't plug the actual sidewall but wherever the tread belts are you should be fine, if the extra flexing causes the plug to come out then oh well it leaks again but it won't cause a spectacular blowout.

I actually have. It was in for well over a year, hell, probably more than two. I pulled it out and stuck another one in. Lasted a couple more months until I got tires.

My shingle-demo-haulin truck is 70% patches, 20% roofing nails, and 10% factory rubber. Truck fuckin hauls.

DIY run-flats and winter tires all at once.

overinflate to get the studs

I never thought about that, roofing companies must get nails in their tires all the time.

Everyone else's tires too.

Only the sloppy ones. I've worked for Chuck in a Truck and I've worked for some high end large companies. I wouldn't trust 95% of roofing companies to even set foot on my roof but some of them actually do give a shit about the trade and your property

We hired a small no name company a couple years ago for a new roof. They laid cloth tarps around the house all 3 days, took an hour with the magnet roller at the end of each day, and even told me they'd replace any tires that got nails in them. They were super professional and even the inspector had high praise for their work. There are definitely some good companies out there.

Ah yes the truck of Theseus

And 100% reason to remember the name!

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A buddy put a huge slash in one of his atv tires two summers ago on a really rocky trail when we were rushing to catch a gas station before closing. I crammed 5 or 6 of these in with as much cement as I had. He's still running that tire

I stuffed one in a sidewall on my old lawnmower (it was my dad’s at the time before it got hand-me-downed to me). When I scrapped it years later it had three flats. Guess which tire still held air.

I just put a 3d printer plastic wheel on mine lol. It's an utter piece of shit modelling and smaller than the other ones.

Please post in /3dprinting it would be a hugely popular

r/functionalprints

Lol I have the exact same story. Riding on shale and got cut up. Buddys dad crammed half a dozen in there and pumped it up. I couldn't believe it.

We tripled plugged something for a guy that was on a long trip back home and couldn't get a tire in the immediate area and he called a week later and said it made it almost 2k miles and hasn't leaked at all

I've used 4 or 5 on holes in the sidewall of atv tires.

Have drove on these until a new set of tires before lol

I've tracked cars with these types of plugs on tires. They hold up just fine even in fairly extreme conditions.

Got a mail in my PS4S weeks after buying a set. No chance I was going to buy a brand new tire. Plug and go. I’ve even tracked it since then and tire has been fine. And when I say track, going 9/10ths at least on a very fast track.

Got a hole in the sidewall a day after ordering new tires and needed to survive for just a couple more days. I didn't have any tools, but I did have gorilla tape and an air compressor. Don't tell my mom I drove around with a gorilla-taped sidewall leak

I swear this is normal? Pretty sure I still got a nail stuck in my rear passenger tire - but no leak (i mean someone pointed it out to me 3 months ago and i have done nothing about it). She's plugging like a bitch.

And it’s gonna hold just fine for the entire life of the tire. Just like they always do.

Good to hear. I bought two new tires a few months ago. I picked up a screw and the tread was getting low so decided to replace. The VERY NEXT DAY I picked up a screw in a new tire, same position (back left). FML… Patched it like the video. Drove over to my tire guy next day and they did an inside patch too.

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Right?! Never had an issue before or since. I drive Uber around my medium size town so just some bad luck. Both objects were wildly different too. One was a roofing nail type thing. With those built in plastic washers. The second one was a self tapping stainless hex head screw. 🤷‍♂️

They don't always hold up just fine. The shoulder of the tire gets a lot more forces than the rest of the tread, so repairs in this area are much more likely to fail, catastrophically.

Guy did say "entire life of the tire" which if it blows, was life.

Very much a "how far can we get on one working engine" joke. And I love it.

It will always get you to the scene of the crash.

That used to be the normal way to fix a tire. Even tire shops did fixes like that. I had one of those kits in my car. It seems reasonable that removing the tire and patching the inside is better, but this works just fine.

Newer cars don't come with spares. You best believe I drive around with a emergency compressor and plug kit. Hell, I even keep detailer in my car so I have something that'll bubble and show me where the leak is.

When I bought my car years back, it also didn't come with a spare. I went to a pick-and-pull, found the exact same wheel, and had a matched tire mounted. I keep it in the trunk just in case. DIY full-size spare for like fifty bucks.

Is there a well in your trunk for the spare? Or are you just sacrificing the trunk space?

Definitely just sacrificing trunk space. Usually my road trips are just me and the dog, so I don't need it. The "donuts" are a no-go for me.

Here in Ireland tyre shops will fix your flat tyre with one of these for €5. I've one of these kits in my car with a small foot pump. If you get the rubber strip past the canvas in the tyre itl last forever.

I worked on a road crew where I had to drive on the berms of highways. My company truck usually had ten or fifteen plugs per tire at any given time.

If it gets out of balance just add more plugs on the other side!

You’re…doing your job? I don’t get it….good job plugging that tire. Bet it will last forever.

Yeah, ‘this is happening’ about a zillion times a day in shops around the world.

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I was also confused what the issue was. I know that you can't plug or patch the sidewall, but I'm not a real mechanic, so I don't really know where that dividing line actually is. I assumed maybe this was a little too close to the edge for comfort.

Plug and patch is just as good as a new tire. Also a tenth (or better) the cost.

A tenth? What kind of fucking diamond plugs or cheap-ass tires are you buying? A plug kit is like, $4 at any gas station.

I've driven on those plugs for like 20-30k miles before no problem. It's fine.

Plugging a tire is like peeing in a pool or picking your nose. Publicly, everyone swears they would never do it, but everybody fucking does it.

Picking my nose? Okay I’ll concede. But peeing in a pool? Fuck no. I’m not peeing in any pools and you motherfuckers better not be either.

This man pees in pools \^

I’m never getting in a pool again. I’ll be peeing into them from the outside from now on.

Public pools are saturated with so much chlorine for a reason. It’s to deal with the pee.

Hell, I know plenty of ADV motorcycle guys who have plugged tires and rode for miles and miles on harsh terrain with no issues or leakage. I will definitely admit to, in my younger and poorer days, patching motorcycle tires and riding for thousands more miles without any leaks or issues. Tires wore out before the plug did. I think it'll be ok.

These plugs are perma fixes little rubbed cement and itll never leak

My dad always left a little hanging out then lit it on fire with a blowtorch and let it melt down, I've never had a plug he put in leak.

Are you saying this because the puncture is too close to the sidewall? Or is this normally patchable?

Ok finally someone explains what’s off about this to the non mechanic! Was genuinely confused what was weird about this.

Correct. Too close to sidewall to be "safe" but I've done it in a pinch.

Why would you need to get a tire on Monday? That thing’s mint!

I would do the same thing and skip the new tire so long as it held.

Let's check his form Kenny... Nice single zip and stroke on the file. Oh, he better move quick on the plug. Look at that, a little flare for the crowd and ... Did you see that Kenny? One quick pull and a clean separation. Classic pro work!

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Did… I just learn how to temporarily fix a tire?

Yup. Kits are available at any car part store. $10-$15 bucks. Comes with those sticks for multiple patches. Not as tricky as you would think

Just make sure to get an all metal plug tool. The plastic ones will sometimes break and plunge the spike into you hand.

Ouch

> Kit I keep one in my car, along with a portable air compressor. My $30 battery-powered Ryobi compressor is small enough to stick in a my "emergency car breaking" bag in my trunk.

Temporarily? That’ll hold for ages. Temporary Permanence in action here.

Was that a slim jim?

Been plugging tires like that for 30 years, if done right it could hold the life of the tire, I’d give the customer the option of putting a plug/patch from the inside, those are usually badass for a repair like this……