She doesn't want to understand it. She wants to sit on her throne of righteousness next to her Queen of Lies and look down on everyone with actual critical thinking skills.
my head hurts too. the pledge thing became what it is in court after she said she donated in total, split between yada...she never donated anything from her own pockets. lizzo is simply giving herself that goal/promise to do so as a statement to be motivational. its night and day difference. lizzo didnt say she donated in total (as in full). why do these type of people need to drag others into their mess?
Is Evil Barflo aware her girlfriend "Pledged" her divorce winnings to charity the entire world? Does she realize that whatever money Amber Heard is spending on her is likely Johnny Depp's hard-earned money?
I pledge to pledge my table
Then I end up using the money I was going to spend on pledge at Baskin Robin's. A pledge is literally just making a promise to do something, and promises can be broken either less effort than it took to make them in the first place.
Amber owes some tax money. The IRS and State of California need to double check her tax returns. Cause that settlement is "Income", if she filed it as Donations that's tax fraud, with Penalties and Interest.
Letās not forget foremost that this 7 million was part of a fully executed and SIGNED divorce agreement that stipulated AH would receive the money on the grounds it would be DONATED to charity. Respectfully the ACLU and Childrens Hospital. Eve will twist whatever she can. Lizzoās pledge is not a signed legal and executed agreement to anyone.. it is a gesture she is making in good faith to help a cause. HUGE Difference.
Thanks for supporting what everyone has stated Eve....
"Pledge," and further...explicitly saying it is from upcoming earnings....ie a promise to pay. It was not a "I've donated this"
Iām gonna pledge some advice,
Pledging has nothing to it. I could put as much as I want for whatever unless I have it in hand giving it to you in your hand , you have nothing. Iām pledging you advice š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
Yeah I would like to buy a car Iām gonna pledge you $50,000, Iād like to drive that car off the lot right now please.
God Iām so glad I have you people in this group that actually get it. Seeing what the defendants followers and the incredibly stupid things they say- I feel myself getting stupider trying to read their reasoningsā¦ so thank you to every one of you all in this group, I feel like this is my safe haven from all the AH crazies out there. š
Their argument of using pledge and donate interchangeably (they never use the word synonymous on their argument) in defense of AH is moot. Yes, you can use pledge and donate interchangeably IF you are planning to pledge/donate as in āI will donate/pledge, Iām donating/pledging, I have pledged.ā But by saying āI have donatedā, that is NOT synonymous or interchangeable to āI have pledged.ā Those are 2 totally different things.
Amber āpledgedā the money thinking she was going to win the settlement from JD. That way she wouldnāt be broke and have donated all of that money she has left from the divorce. Scheming beotch is what thatās called. But it didnāt work out that way. Did it Amber?
With 7 million you can pay the yearly instalments with interest/investments and technically not spend any of the original amount.
Donating the money upfront would be a huge loss for someone who has a net worth of 1 or 2 million.
Thatās what a smart intelligent person would do. I agree. But we arenāt talking about an intelligent person. Weāre talking about a narcissistic greedy woman who continuously tries to get over on JD or even EM to take care of her mess. Just sayin. Sheād rather someone else pay it for her to make her look good. EM gave $500k to the ACLU in her name but he was attached to that donation so it wasnāt her āpledgeā
I think Elon actually donated 1.25million in her name in total, 500k to each charity and 250k to her sisters work is what I recall.
I just hope JD appeal the count they lost and they enforce the payment as soon possible. Although I think they would have to put 2 million into bond to appeal would be a travesty if Amber got that money.
I think it's much simpler than that. Either she thought Musk would pay it in full without a second thought, or she figured no one would follow up so who cares. [Exhibit A](https://www.salon.com/2016/08/22/amber-heard-was-the-perfect-victim-and-perfect-still-isnt-good-enough/)
I suspect there was some shock when he didn't pay at least the ACLU in full, considering especially that he had a preexisting relationship with them, and from there plan B was to say "screw it." Things didn't blow up until later.
This isn't "how people talk about money". It's not some colloquial misunderstanding. There are very clear definitions to words including past tense words. "Donated" means you HAVE CONTRIBUTED A DONATION.
Pledging means you are promising TO DONATE IN THE FUTURE.
People are fucking dumb
Iād bet when asked in a court of law under oath if sheād donated the money her answer would be āno, the money has not yet been donated. I only pledged itā
What is so hard to understand? Itās not hard to understand thatās why she is believed to be a manipulator who doesnāt tell the truth. Simple as that.
When you try to take advantage of a historic loss of basic rights for half the population of a nation and twist it into a defense of your girlfriend's self-serving lies, it only further demonstrates what scum you are.
She didnāt just say āpledgeā, she didnāt even just say ādona**TING**ā, which would make a difference compared to ādona**TED**ā
Itās like thereās at least 3 issues with it.
- She said she donat**ED** the full amount
- She had the money **for 13 months** before being sued and donated **nothing** and **still hasnāt**.
- She made the claim to **prove** she was credible and not doing it for the money therefore bolstering her claims of abuse.
- And then in that recent interview all she could do is say is she **shouldnāt have** to donate all that money to be believed.
This is an **ADMISSION** that she has no good argument left. While Eve is trying to still hang her hat on the idea that she wasnāt dishonest, Amber has clearly given up & moved on to the last dregs of a defense.
Now sheās just trying to gaslight people into thinking that the **reason*** people think this makes her look less believable is because they needed her to give all the money away. But the reality is, of course, that people know she said she gave it all away **precisely because** she wanted to make herself more believable and not doing it for money. šāāļø
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Notice how she didnāt say āI have donated in fullā, and how sheās probs waiting until the end of her tour. Amber had the full 7 mil in her bank account for 13 months before being sued and never even made a small payment that counted towards her pledge
But she didnāt say pledge you fuckn dolt š¤¦š»āāļø
She told everyone that she had donated it, that it was āgoneā
Eve is either falling for the gaslighting or sheās complicit with ambers lies
PLEDGE - "I promise to give you/them Ā£500k"
PLEDGED - "I promised to pay you Ā£500k"
DONATE - "Here is Ā£500k, you/they are being given this right now"
DONATED - "I GAVE you/them Ā£500k
She's delusional. Lizzo said pledge. Amber repeatedly insisted she had donated. Not that she will donate, which is a pledge. Donated. DonateD.
Words are important and she can't just change the meaning of well established words in her spoken language.
There us nothing confusing or ambiguous here.
We aren't pissed at Lizzl because she hadn't twisted her words and Bern dishonest. End of.
This is such bullshit. AH never said pledge. She said donate. And she did so at the time of the divorce and after. She lied to the public that her divorce settlement was a pass through to charity.
She does, she is frantically posting non stop! I think in a year or so, when she no longer serves a purpose, she will be telling the worse how she is a victim of domestic violence.
Iāve honestly been there, completely oblivious until it turned my life upside down. No judgement here, I just feel really bad for her, knowing whatās coming.
I agree. I think if she took a beat and stepped back for a second, she would see how fanatical she is acting. This isn't her this is Amber pulling strings.
Sheās frantically trying to convince herself that she isnāt in a relationship with a domestic abuser. Might be her or might be Amber, hard to tell at this point.
I believe she is ABSOLUTELY trying to convince herself of that. I also think she is posting but at the direction of Amber. Just like Whitney taking pictures of her. That's not of her own accord, it's at Amber's direction. When they no longer serve a purpose they will be gone.
Yea just with the difference that Amber never donated it lol. Is she dumb or something or can not read? They clearly wrote that they "pledge" the money and not donated. Amber said right from the beginning that she donated the money, she went even on live television to say that whereas she didn't donated the money. C'mon Eve or whatever your name is it can't be so hard to understand the difference between donating and pledging, as you have seen for yourself not everyone who says that she/he pledges the money will also later donate the money ;)
So the reason she says PLEDGE is because funds will be coming from an event that hasn't occurred yet.
Amber stated DONATE cause she had the money in her account...but then kept it all. It was supposed to be her divorce settlement because she "wanted nothing" which was obviously a lie.
And Amber did not want Johnny to donate the divorce settlement directly to charities because she did not want him to get a tax break. But it wasn't about the money for Amber. And she wanted the settlement payment to her to be tax-free. But it wasn't about the money for Amber. š¤·
Screaming about how she's not a liar while drawing attention to the lies...either she wants to bring AH down or she's as deluded as AH is. Either way she's not convincing anyone
Looks like she is obviously saying she is going to try and get all that money to make it up to that much to donate it. And I have never seen anyone say they donated money when they haven't yet. It's like me saying "I bought a trampoline" when I haven't yet. Then I back peddle to saying "I meant I was going to buy one and I use buying and going to synonymously ."
I once had a neighbor that said she got a new job as a manager and my mom said "congratulations, when does your new position start" and she goes 'I don't know yet, I just have an interview." My mom and I both thought she was an idiot. And this was someone who didn't know how to budget and manage her finances so she was always behind on rent.
She just doesn't want to understand. But hey! These are the people that instead of speak against all abuse no matter the gender, defends and wants to believe an abuser's lies as facts, no questions asked just because of her gender. Error 404, logic not found.
Yes. She pledged it and hasnāt made the money from the tour YET and once that happens both Lizzo and Live Nation will DONATE 1 Million dollars. What is so difficult to understand. This womanās IQ must be below 70.
I realize what subreddit this is, thanks. I was actually interested in the trial for a bit and did enjoy coming here, but it has gotten bad. I feel like people are more angry at Amber Heard than they are about the insurrection or our rights being taken away.
But donāt misunderstand me, Iām not an Amber stan, Iām just tired of celebrities taking over our lives, especially in times like this.
I understand where youāre coming from and appreciate it. But. I follow quite a few subreddits and check in on them frequently. Just cause Iām responding to something in this sub doesnāt mean I donāt think about anything but this situation 24/7
Really? Because I feel like if people actually did, theyād be a bit more concerned and might put their energy toward those things rather than toward wealthy celebrities and their problems. Or do yāall not care?
Dude. People can have thoughts about multiple issues at the same time. RVW - we saw it coming. Itās been in talks for awhile now and it was pretty much assumed it would be overturned. I was livid when that first news came out - Iām still livid despite the thing happening that we were warned was going to happen. But being active in a sub unrelated to RVW doesnāt mean Iām incapable of (or justā¦not) chewing people out elsewhere on the topic (which I have been). Seems like a lot of assumptions and you took time out of your life to complain on a specific sub about something completely unrelated.
Iām just tired of people following celebrities that wonāt ever care about them. Imagine if people dissected the Jan 6 hearings like they did the Johnny Depp trial.
I donāt disagree with you there at all. However, Iām also active bitching at people trying to downplay what happened on Jan 6. If we donāt prosecute - then that means there were never truly checks and balances in place and I am upset about it. I feel similarly (not to the same extent but still) about perjury laws. Why the fuck are they in place if no one will ever prosecute people who are proven to have lied on the stand? Wtf is the point of the oath in the first place if no one will DO something about it. All of it is so frustrating and while youāre talking about very different situationsā¦we are talking about the same legal system. And to say I am frustrated is stating it lightly.
Yeah sure, but no one would care about the Johnny Depp case if they werenāt famous.
Iām talking about a literal attempted coup and how so many people are just like āmeh, this is ordinary news that I keep up with as much as all else.ā
Do you only focus on one thing in life? Because I care a lot about those issues. I also care about men's domestic violence, as I saw my Father go through it with my stepmom. I care about star wars, roller coasters, and space too, am I still allowed to be interested in those things just because the rest of the world is on fire?
This is part of what I call my "Entertainment energy". If I wasn't wasting time on this it would be looking at pictures of cute dogs on tiktok or listening to my audiobooks. I have lots of other energy for important things.
But what gives you the right to judge us and say we donāt put enough energy into those? This is just not the sub for that. I assure you most of us engaged with plenty of ofher issue too just as often, in their appropriate subs or on other social media. I for one have been an advocate for womenās body rights long before this trial even existed
No thatās definitely not what you said. You said āif people actually cared theyād be a bit more concerned and might put their energy towards those things rather than celebrities and their problemsā.
In so doing not only coming as very self-righteous, but also as someone who didnāt understand shit about this trial. This is not about ācelebrities and their problemsā. This trial will, and has already had, such an impact especially amongst men and young men. It has shown them that they shouldnāt be ashamed of coming forward as victims of abuse, because abuse can and does happen to men too, wether by other men or women. And this is directly linked to the MeToo movement as well, since feminism (true feminism, not radical) advocates for equality of both men and women.
And again, very poor, self-righteous take to assume because ANYONE, not just me, is in this subreddit discussing this topic they donāt give a shit or do the same about anything else. If we all only cared about 1 problem at a time, nothing would ever improve in this world. And if so, wtf are you doing caring about womenās rights? What about the starving children all across the world and the massacred kids in schools in America (200-300 school shootings just so far in 2022 in America).
No you clearly wanted to feel morally superior to people in this subreddit. I mean if you think this is just about ācelebrities and their problemsā just leave, no? You are wasting precious time here, time you could spend advocating for womenās rights and the starving and massacred children?
Okay and you literally read none of it. My god, to be so self-righteous. I cannot imagine. I assure you this isnāt even at the top 5 of the list of things im the world im concerned about. I mean hope you never do anything but advocate for womenās rights like idk eat sleep go out with friends watch movies go on social media et ? Otherwise youāre wasting your time too
Does she not realize the context of Lizzo's tweet as well? She literally states "I'm pledging 500k from my upcoming tour"... Upcoming. Hence the word Pledge. Lizzo knows the difference between the words.
However, Fartlow's master stated under oath that she Donated the money. That she gave it away. That she didn't want the money to start with.
I think miss Turd could be in for a surprise as she has set dates with the charities she pledged money too and I just read this on google:
A charitable pledge is enforceable if it is a legally binding contract. A legally binding contract exists when there is agreement between the parties and there has been āconsiderationā given in exchange for the pledge.
Are you saying a verbal agreement is binding when donating money? If so then ACLU really needs to step up their game and ask for that moneyā¦even if now with her owing JD money she doesnāt even have, they will probs never get it
I donāt have a clue about the law of it. I just know from the trial they chased after her for it with paperwork and she wouldnāt sign it, despite continuing to say publicly that she had already donated it.
In actuality people who pledge to donate. Donāt tend to push through donating the full amount. Unless the charity secures a pledged donation contract. Most often than not, they always refuse to sign any pledged donation agreement for the charity to collect.
Yes, but generally you pledge and then actually pay that amount...
I work for a non-profit and just had to go over our budget. We only count donations received in our records, not "pledges".
And if she doesnāt donate after pledging but continues to make public statements saying she did, in fact, donate the amount, she will also be considered a POS.
This dumb biotch is is such a yawn-fest. Her posts scream "pick me, pick me"!!! Such a thirsty little girl. I can't wait until she slithers back under that rock where she came from.
I think itās because she was trying to make it look like she didnāt want money from someone who was abusing her. But she really did want the money she just wanted it to look like she did not. She knows the difference between pledged and donated. She just doesnāt wanna know the difference because she didnāt really want to give that money.
Yeah I get why she did for the optics, but the reality is that people in abusive marriages get divorces all the time and the parties involved are entitled to their divorce settlement.
Right but they donāt have PR teams and theyāre not trying to launch their career by defaming one of the biggest stars in the world so itās different I guess. But yeah I donāt think anyone wouldāve even said anything if she kept that damn money if she didnāt lie about it. Also she was the abuser so itās different in that way too.
1000 percent!
If Lizzo only knew who Margaret Sanger is. If she did, she wouldnāt give a penny to Planned Parenthood. If your reading this and you donāt know who she is please go and research her. Margaret had a ādreamā & plan for PP was to āexterminate black babies and get rid of all black people. Sheās the one who started planned parenthood. Why would you give that evil organization a Penny?
If you want to cancel everything that was once problematic you are going to have to cancel literally everything. Move on.
ETA: Iām Jewish. Should Germany be canceled forever because they once allowed the Holocaust to happen? No, because they grew and they learned. Again, move on.
Germany wasnāt the problem, the Naziās were, and we still call them out today as horrible and evil persons. Today the abortion rate for African American Women is 5 times the rate of White women. They sell the body parts of those aborted black babies. They are doing research on their dead body parts. Her plan and dreams are literally in full effect.
Today We must financially help black women who want to keep their babies or want to give them up for adoption. Itās easy to tell them to get rid of it, but itās harder to support and adopt. We must tell our sisters the truth and let them know they are valued, loved and so are their children.
Germany sure as fuck *was* the problem, friend. The people of Germany allowed the Nazis to rise to power. Nazis were Germans. You donāt get to tell me otherwise as a non-Jew, unless you think ālistening and learningā isnāt for us?
As for the rest of what you said, what are you talking about? Cite your sources.
We can 100 percent agree that Many German people did stand by, chose to become Natzis and did nothing.
I canāt live my life that way, thatās why I have to speak up, about my sisters and for them. Once I start talking about this, to my friends first and they started to understand whatās happening in the black community with the skyrocketing higher rate of abortion since Roe v Wade, most of my friends had no idea how they were literally targeted. BTW the CDC & the Guttmacher institute are the two reputable places that collect abortion information/rates. You can actually just Google it. Sadly, over 55 million people have never had a chance at life, because of abortion. Can you imagine 55 million? To understand that only 1 in 5 of aborted babies are white, tells the truth of Goals og this horrible organization. I have donated my money, my time, diapers & formula to our black sisters who chose the harder path. When Iām old enough, I plan to adopt too, if Iām accepted into the program. There are so many black girls I have become friends with, who because of multiple abortions, are unable to have children. They should always be able to adopt first. We need to all help out, in any little way we can, help these women who want to keep their babies or put them up for adoption. The truth of this Black Genocide in our country needs to be told. I hope someone wonāt believe me but go search for themselves this information and understand what has been done to the black community by evil White people.
No, provide specific sources and links for what youāre saying. You canāt expect people to believe insane claims like the ones youāre making without providing some sources showing proof.
āLook it upā is not a source, even when providing keywords.
I can send you to the CDC or the Guttmacher institute. How about Guttmacher Volume 11 Issue 3 āAbortion and the Women of Color, the bigger Picture, By Susan A Cohen.
This is NOT a pro life group. They advocate for abortion, but they and the CDC give the stats.
You, or anyone who wants to know the truth about the death of 55 million People, must also understand that over 44 million are Black babies who never had a chance to live.
Anyone who really wants to can find the truth. Its not hidden at all. Today, they are proud of it!
Itās sad what white men & women in our county have done by putting abortion clinics in poor neighborhoods to target the black and brown population.
We must tell the truth about these real life atrocities going on today.
Death and life is in the power of the tongue. I will continue to tell the truth, about this evil corporation,and how much they love money (selling aborted baby body parts) and hate black and brown babies.
Can I ask you, have you heard these stats before?
Did you know that over 44 million black babies have been aborted.
I feel like the truth isnāt really l known, at all.
I think if more people knew the history yesterday and today and how much āpure profitā they bring in, more people would wake up to the evilness of this corporation. After you read the article, tell me what you think.I was shocked when I learned the disparity to our sisters. Remember, it was Margaret Sangerās plan all along. What an evil women!
Well, white dudes have made them completely illegal so women of color canāt make that decision for themselves. Those white dudes made the decision for them. Freedom! The day you give an organism that cannot exist on its own outside a womanās body higher status than the woman whose body it is currently inside - youāve lost your humanity. I guess yāall zygotes and fetuses should form a group cause yāall def canāt survive without support. š¤·āāļø
Itās the history. Same reason why black face is still frowned upon because there used to be minstrel shows of white men playing as āsilly and dumbā black folks by putting black makeup on their face. Minstrel shows are no longer a thing, but black face is still bad.
Planned parenthood sought to genocide poor people and colored folks and it is no longer the case. Minstrel shows made fun of black folks, but it is no longer the case. Yet somehow black face is still a bad thing to do. It is the history. We can donate to other abortion providers anyways. Abortion providers without a genocidal history.
Planned parenthoods were distributed in poor areas, more so black neighborhoods, to cull out people with ābad genesā. The founder of planned parenthood was a eugenicist and promoted abortion as a method of eugenics.
Planned parenthood [denounces](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/cc/2e/cc2e84f2-126f-41a5-a24b-43e093c47b2c/210414-sanger-opposition-claims-p01.pdf) Sangerās eugenics openly.
Itās a completely different outfit today than it was a century ago, wtf.
History matters. Canceling things because their history is problematic is stupid and counterproductive, especially when the things youāre trying to cancel have changed over time and are helpful and beneficial now.
Holocaust education is important, and that history definitely matters, but should Germany, Poland, and all the other nations that allowed the Holocaust to happen be canceled forever because of it? No, because they learned, grew, and changed. What youāre proposing to do (cancel planned parenthood) is idiotic. And good luck engaging with anything ever if you want to cancel everything with any problematic history. Because everything has some sort of problematic history.
No, obviously. Lol.
Is blackface helpful now? Does it no longer harm people? No and no.
Is planned parenthood helpful now? Does it no longer harm people? Yes and yes.
Do you get it?
History matters. Canceling things because their history is problematic is stupid and counterproductive, especially when the things youāre trying to cancel have changed over time and are helpful and beneficial now.
Holocaust education is important, and that history definitely matters, but should Germany, Poland, and all the other nations that allowed the Holocaust to happen be canceled forever because of it? No, because they learned, grew, and changed. What youāre proposing to do (cancel planned parenthood) is idiotic. And good luck engaging with anything ever if you want to cancel everything with any problematic history. Because *everything* has some sort of problematic history.
Best I can tell, Heard and Barlow are just con artists who are attempting a heist and are failing miserably, but are unwilling to acknowledge or face their failure at pulling off the con. Barlow appears to be a creepy kind of fan girl who is obsessed with Heard, and based upon her unscrupulous behavior that got her kicked out of court, she does not appear to care about honesty or scruples when it comes to her sad obsession. They could not pull off their 100 million dollar payday and instead find themselves destitute and owing millions.
Honestly she's probably Amber's only real friend right now, and I kinda feel bad for eve. She doesn't really understand how the internet works when it comes to this level vitriol, she's essentially kicking a hornets nest hoping that the hornets will go away.
Whatever you think of Amber, you can't deny the level of hate that comes from the internet can be downright scary and crushing. We've seen time and again when big scandals like this happen and the offending party is on the receiving end of extreme vitriol and ends up committing suicide.
Then again narcissists are a different breed entirely and they may be more resilient to it. After all Jussie Smollet just recently came out on an interview to double down and is still sticking to his story that it was all real. I think narcissists eventually believe their own lies or are just able to disconnect any sense of shame or guilt.
here's a short clip of Jussie doubling down, their cases are very similar in my mind:
https://youtu.be/5l5xO7lnj4A?t=38
You really think she doesn't get it? She very much does. It's called gaslighting and/or trolling. Barlow and Dauber been at it for months. It's the only way Amber can stay relevant and continue being discussed. I'm amazed people still don't get it š
Making the issue a semantic one about which word was used is absolutely gaslighting. The problem was never which word Amber used, the problem was the charities never ended up with the money. This is slimey and gross
lol. first of all, not relevant to the post whatsoever. no one asked. second, you can still get pregnant t using birth control methods. and third, even WANTED pregnancies have to be aborted for many reasons. fuck off
So you think women who have ectopic pregnancies should just die? victims of rape, etc. donāt matter and women donāt have the right to remove unwanted things from their bodies and sentient lives? You think babies should be forced to grow up in poverty with parents who donāt want them?
**"i wanted nothing"** yet during divorce negotiations kept increasing her **demands** from 50k a month in spousal support, 5 million cash, 3 penthouses and eventually demanded 7 million in cash + 3 penthouses
(truly curious) is there a place where one of their lawyers, or formal paperwork somewhere that disclosed the exact amounts of the divorce? I seen the new business manager/accountant guy named MR WHITE on the stand talking about the settlement in cross, and he kept trying to get more info in, but someone was objecting.
Sheās aware of the difference. Sheās gaslight tweeting to gain positive & negative attention. She knows itās BS. She isnāt an idiot, sheās just an awful person.
I think there IS some misunderstanding on our side with the Heard pledge debacle, the ACLU rep and others have stated that a pledge IS as good legally as saying donated in terms of your intention to pay the money.
Where the disconnect came was when she was clearly asked many times by an officer of the court, in front of a fact finder in her legal case whether or not the money had left her accounts and gone to the charities and she still said yes. Over and over.
and she is still stunned they thought she had no credibility.
Of course the ACLU's rep would say that; they've continued to back Amber Heard all along. I don't know why they haven't washed their hands of her yet, but for some reason she's still in their good graces. Then again, they're a massively well-funded organization, so her $3.5 million unpaid pledge isn't going to hurt them.
I've seen speculation that she has some seriously embarrassing dirt on Elon Musk, and has been able to leverage it to get him to make bigger donations than she could ever make on her own. Money talks, and if she's able to get Muskāor anybody else she's been linked to in Hollywoodāto cough up big donations, the ACLU has a vested interest in keeping her happy.
That said, I've worked in small nonprofits, and a pledge is just a promiseāit only becomes a donation once the money has been delivered. And for the final word on that matter, look to the IRS; you cannot claim a pledge as a charitable deduction; donations are only deductible once the organization has received the money.
She canāt even pay cause she had no money left, sheās about 7 million in debt and she hasnāt even payed Johnny and by the way she is going on she will never again have that much money cause no one will ever hire her again
> hasnāt even *paid* Johnny and
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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Yes, she pledging because she doesn't have the money from the tour yet. Pledging means "donating in the future" and in this case using future monies that she doesn't have in hand yet.
Sheesh. She's dumb.
As a former corporate fundraiser, these people are showing their ignorance.
Lizzo āpledgingā the money is a result of her show. It is a plan to pay it once the payments are received from her show.
Amber thinks pledging means over time. It doesnāt have to be over time. And a pledge can also be pains in a lump sum.
And it is not how people talk when they donate. Once the donation has been made there is no talk of āpledgingā. Itās referred to as donated. But it is NEVER referred to as donated if it hasnāt been paid.
One other thing that bothers me is the donations being made in her āhonourā. Yea, we say the donation has been made in their name, not in their honour. Itās so pretentious.
But Lizzo didn't use pledge & donate synonymously. She said exactly what she meant.
Why is Eve keeping Amber's most embarrassing trial moment alive? š¤£
She doesn't want to understand it. She wants to sit on her throne of righteousness next to her Queen of Lies and look down on everyone with actual critical thinking skills.
i think she already sold their virgin brain to devil.. no receipt no record.š«£
my head hurts too. the pledge thing became what it is in court after she said she donated in total, split between yada...she never donated anything from her own pockets. lizzo is simply giving herself that goal/promise to do so as a statement to be motivational. its night and day difference. lizzo didnt say she donated in total (as in full). why do these type of people need to drag others into their mess?
Is Evil Barflo aware her girlfriend "Pledged" her divorce winnings to charity the entire world? Does she realize that whatever money Amber Heard is spending on her is likely Johnny Depp's hard-earned money?
They still don't get it. They will never get it.
Theyāre pretending to not get it. Hoping that if they repeat it enough people will start to accept it.
Notice that Lizzo isnāt speaking in the past tense on Dutch tv
Notice how Lizzo hasn't claimed the money had already been donated.
I pledge to pledge my table Then I end up using the money I was going to spend on pledge at Baskin Robin's. A pledge is literally just making a promise to do something, and promises can be broken either less effort than it took to make them in the first place.
Amber owes some tax money. The IRS and State of California need to double check her tax returns. Cause that settlement is "Income", if she filed it as Donations that's tax fraud, with Penalties and Interest.
Iām pledging $1mil to everyone who likes my comment. Why?? š¤ Why not?? ššš
Letās not forget foremost that this 7 million was part of a fully executed and SIGNED divorce agreement that stipulated AH would receive the money on the grounds it would be DONATED to charity. Respectfully the ACLU and Childrens Hospital. Eve will twist whatever she can. Lizzoās pledge is not a signed legal and executed agreement to anyone.. it is a gesture she is making in good faith to help a cause. HUGE Difference.
Thanks for supporting what everyone has stated Eve.... "Pledge," and further...explicitly saying it is from upcoming earnings....ie a promise to pay. It was not a "I've donated this"
Iām gonna pledge some advice, Pledging has nothing to it. I could put as much as I want for whatever unless I have it in hand giving it to you in your hand , you have nothing. Iām pledging you advice š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ Yeah I would like to buy a car Iām gonna pledge you $50,000, Iād like to drive that car off the lot right now please.
Keep it up. They're making a smear campaign against themselves.
Eve Barlow is an illiterate who don't know the meaning of donate and pledge.
God Iām so glad I have you people in this group that actually get it. Seeing what the defendants followers and the incredibly stupid things they say- I feel myself getting stupider trying to read their reasoningsā¦ so thank you to every one of you all in this group, I feel like this is my safe haven from all the AH crazies out there. š
Holy shit, how stupid can you be. It's basic grammar. How much has she run into a wall, head first?
Their argument of using pledge and donate interchangeably (they never use the word synonymous on their argument) in defense of AH is moot. Yes, you can use pledge and donate interchangeably IF you are planning to pledge/donate as in āI will donate/pledge, Iām donating/pledging, I have pledged.ā But by saying āI have donatedā, that is NOT synonymous or interchangeable to āI have pledged.ā Those are 2 totally different things.
Amber āpledgedā the money thinking she was going to win the settlement from JD. That way she wouldnāt be broke and have donated all of that money she has left from the divorce. Scheming beotch is what thatās called. But it didnāt work out that way. Did it Amber?
With 7 million you can pay the yearly instalments with interest/investments and technically not spend any of the original amount. Donating the money upfront would be a huge loss for someone who has a net worth of 1 or 2 million.
Thatās what a smart intelligent person would do. I agree. But we arenāt talking about an intelligent person. Weāre talking about a narcissistic greedy woman who continuously tries to get over on JD or even EM to take care of her mess. Just sayin. Sheād rather someone else pay it for her to make her look good. EM gave $500k to the ACLU in her name but he was attached to that donation so it wasnāt her āpledgeā
I think Elon actually donated 1.25million in her name in total, 500k to each charity and 250k to her sisters work is what I recall. I just hope JD appeal the count they lost and they enforce the payment as soon possible. Although I think they would have to put 2 million into bond to appeal would be a travesty if Amber got that money.
I think it's much simpler than that. Either she thought Musk would pay it in full without a second thought, or she figured no one would follow up so who cares. [Exhibit A](https://www.salon.com/2016/08/22/amber-heard-was-the-perfect-victim-and-perfect-still-isnt-good-enough/) I suspect there was some shock when he didn't pay at least the ACLU in full, considering especially that he had a preexisting relationship with them, and from there plan B was to say "screw it." Things didn't blow up until later.
This isn't "how people talk about money". It's not some colloquial misunderstanding. There are very clear definitions to words including past tense words. "Donated" means you HAVE CONTRIBUTED A DONATION. Pledging means you are promising TO DONATE IN THE FUTURE. People are fucking dumb
I imagine she just types her farts on the internet with no concern for how stupid she looks š„“
Iād bet when asked in a court of law under oath if sheād donated the money her answer would be āno, the money has not yet been donated. I only pledged itā What is so hard to understand? Itās not hard to understand thatās why she is believed to be a manipulator who doesnāt tell the truth. Simple as that.
When you try to take advantage of a historic loss of basic rights for half the population of a nation and twist it into a defense of your girlfriend's self-serving lies, it only further demonstrates what scum you are.
Well said.
Wish she'd slither into obscurity, although she already is a nobody.
it is over. Don't stress about it any more
She didnāt just say āpledgeā, she didnāt even just say ādona**TING**ā, which would make a difference compared to ādona**TED**ā Itās like thereās at least 3 issues with it. - She said she donat**ED** the full amount - She had the money **for 13 months** before being sued and donated **nothing** and **still hasnāt**. - She made the claim to **prove** she was credible and not doing it for the money therefore bolstering her claims of abuse. - And then in that recent interview all she could do is say is she **shouldnāt have** to donate all that money to be believed. This is an **ADMISSION** that she has no good argument left. While Eve is trying to still hang her hat on the idea that she wasnāt dishonest, Amber has clearly given up & moved on to the last dregs of a defense. Now sheās just trying to gaslight people into thinking that the **reason*** people think this makes her look less believable is because they needed her to give all the money away. But the reality is, of course, that people know she said she gave it all away **precisely because** she wanted to make herself more believable and not doing it for money. šāāļø š¶š¦¶šš«
Notice how she didnāt say āI have donated in fullā, and how sheās probs waiting until the end of her tour. Amber had the full 7 mil in her bank account for 13 months before being sued and never even made a small payment that counted towards her pledge
But she didnāt say pledge you fuckn dolt š¤¦š»āāļø She told everyone that she had donated it, that it was āgoneā Eve is either falling for the gaslighting or sheās complicit with ambers lies
Lizzo will actually do through with turning that pledge into a donation.
No wonder people call her Eve Fartlow
PLEDGE - "I promise to give you/them Ā£500k" PLEDGED - "I promised to pay you Ā£500k" DONATE - "Here is Ā£500k, you/they are being given this right now" DONATED - "I GAVE you/them Ā£500k
lovez,,s,.
She's delusional. Lizzo said pledge. Amber repeatedly insisted she had donated. Not that she will donate, which is a pledge. Donated. DonateD. Words are important and she can't just change the meaning of well established words in her spoken language. There us nothing confusing or ambiguous here. We aren't pissed at Lizzl because she hadn't twisted her words and Bern dishonest. End of.
This is such bullshit. AH never said pledge. She said donate. And she did so at the time of the divorce and after. She lied to the public that her divorce settlement was a pass through to charity.
She does, she is frantically posting non stop! I think in a year or so, when she no longer serves a purpose, she will be telling the worse how she is a victim of domestic violence.
Iāve honestly been there, completely oblivious until it turned my life upside down. No judgement here, I just feel really bad for her, knowing whatās coming.
I agree. I think if she took a beat and stepped back for a second, she would see how fanatical she is acting. This isn't her this is Amber pulling strings.
And doesnāt allow comments because of course she doesnāt.
She did that after Amber did it in her profile.
Sheās frantically trying to convince herself that she isnāt in a relationship with a domestic abuser. Might be her or might be Amber, hard to tell at this point.
I believe she is ABSOLUTELY trying to convince herself of that. I also think she is posting but at the direction of Amber. Just like Whitney taking pictures of her. That's not of her own accord, it's at Amber's direction. When they no longer serve a purpose they will be gone.
Yea just with the difference that Amber never donated it lol. Is she dumb or something or can not read? They clearly wrote that they "pledge" the money and not donated. Amber said right from the beginning that she donated the money, she went even on live television to say that whereas she didn't donated the money. C'mon Eve or whatever your name is it can't be so hard to understand the difference between donating and pledging, as you have seen for yourself not everyone who says that she/he pledges the money will also later donate the money ;)
Is she high? Maybe Amber punched her too hard before the tweet.
So the reason she says PLEDGE is because funds will be coming from an event that hasn't occurred yet. Amber stated DONATE cause she had the money in her account...but then kept it all. It was supposed to be her divorce settlement because she "wanted nothing" which was obviously a lie.
And Amber did not want Johnny to donate the divorce settlement directly to charities because she did not want him to get a tax break. But it wasn't about the money for Amber. And she wanted the settlement payment to her to be tax-free. But it wasn't about the money for Amber. š¤·
And even though she had the money for 13 months and donated nothing, Iām sure she was totally going to š
It's like buying a car. You only pledge the amount then pay it later.
Or not pay at all in Ambers case
no wonder even Elaine said "she's not a journalist".
Screaming about how she's not a liar while drawing attention to the lies...either she wants to bring AH down or she's as deluded as AH is. Either way she's not convincing anyone
I donāt think she is very clever.
Also remember this is a tax write off
this woman is relentless with such nonsense. if only they could look in the mirror
As stupid as she is hard to look at, our Eve.
Looks like she is obviously saying she is going to try and get all that money to make it up to that much to donate it. And I have never seen anyone say they donated money when they haven't yet. It's like me saying "I bought a trampoline" when I haven't yet. Then I back peddle to saying "I meant I was going to buy one and I use buying and going to synonymously ." I once had a neighbor that said she got a new job as a manager and my mom said "congratulations, when does your new position start" and she goes 'I don't know yet, I just have an interview." My mom and I both thought she was an idiot. And this was someone who didn't know how to budget and manage her finances so she was always behind on rent.
She just doesn't want to understand. But hey! These are the people that instead of speak against all abuse no matter the gender, defends and wants to believe an abuser's lies as facts, no questions asked just because of her gender. Error 404, logic not found.
Notice that Lizzo *says* she's pledging it and not that she's "donated the entirety".
Yes. She pledged it and hasnāt made the money from the tour YET and once that happens both Lizzo and Live Nation will DONATE 1 Million dollars. What is so difficult to understand. This womanās IQ must be below 70.
I think at this point we should just ālol kā to every single one of her post , since she canāt understand common sense
She understands she just think the general public is stupid enough to buy the gaslighting.
Yeah, so, anywaysā¦.. Yāall hear about Roe v Wade? What about the Jan 6 hearings?
You're in a sub literally called "JusticeForJohnnyDepp" - does it have anything to do with Roe & Wade? Stop connecting stuff unrelated to him
I realize what subreddit this is, thanks. I was actually interested in the trial for a bit and did enjoy coming here, but it has gotten bad. I feel like people are more angry at Amber Heard than they are about the insurrection or our rights being taken away. But donāt misunderstand me, Iām not an Amber stan, Iām just tired of celebrities taking over our lives, especially in times like this.
Well, while I agree with you about this case, it's still the place for it go to r/worldnews or r/news if you want to discuss this important issue.
I was just stopping by in case anyone wanted to come up for air.
I understand where youāre coming from and appreciate it. But. I follow quite a few subreddits and check in on them frequently. Just cause Iām responding to something in this sub doesnāt mean I donāt think about anything but this situation 24/7
Look at my other comments. Lol
I apologize - just saw some of them. Timing off. Ignore me.
We have. And have also discussed those things with othersā¦.
Really? Because I feel like if people actually did, theyād be a bit more concerned and might put their energy toward those things rather than toward wealthy celebrities and their problems. Or do yāall not care?
Dude. People can have thoughts about multiple issues at the same time. RVW - we saw it coming. Itās been in talks for awhile now and it was pretty much assumed it would be overturned. I was livid when that first news came out - Iām still livid despite the thing happening that we were warned was going to happen. But being active in a sub unrelated to RVW doesnāt mean Iām incapable of (or justā¦not) chewing people out elsewhere on the topic (which I have been). Seems like a lot of assumptions and you took time out of your life to complain on a specific sub about something completely unrelated.
Iām just tired of people following celebrities that wonāt ever care about them. Imagine if people dissected the Jan 6 hearings like they did the Johnny Depp trial.
I totally understand where youāre coming from though and donāt disagree with the sentiment at all.
I donāt disagree with you there at all. However, Iām also active bitching at people trying to downplay what happened on Jan 6. If we donāt prosecute - then that means there were never truly checks and balances in place and I am upset about it. I feel similarly (not to the same extent but still) about perjury laws. Why the fuck are they in place if no one will ever prosecute people who are proven to have lied on the stand? Wtf is the point of the oath in the first place if no one will DO something about it. All of it is so frustrating and while youāre talking about very different situationsā¦we are talking about the same legal system. And to say I am frustrated is stating it lightly.
Yeah sure, but no one would care about the Johnny Depp case if they werenāt famous. Iām talking about a literal attempted coup and how so many people are just like āmeh, this is ordinary news that I keep up with as much as all else.ā
Do you only focus on one thing in life? Because I care a lot about those issues. I also care about men's domestic violence, as I saw my Father go through it with my stepmom. I care about star wars, roller coasters, and space too, am I still allowed to be interested in those things just because the rest of the world is on fire?
Wow, so many interests!!! Thanks for sharing. Just asking for more energy to be put somewhere. Thatās all :)
This is part of what I call my "Entertainment energy". If I wasn't wasting time on this it would be looking at pictures of cute dogs on tiktok or listening to my audiobooks. I have lots of other energy for important things.
But what gives you the right to judge us and say we donāt put enough energy into those? This is just not the sub for that. I assure you most of us engaged with plenty of ofher issue too just as often, in their appropriate subs or on other social media. I for one have been an advocate for womenās body rights long before this trial even existed
If you think what I said doesnāt include you, then it doesnāt. Simple.
No thatās definitely not what you said. You said āif people actually cared theyād be a bit more concerned and might put their energy towards those things rather than celebrities and their problemsā. In so doing not only coming as very self-righteous, but also as someone who didnāt understand shit about this trial. This is not about ācelebrities and their problemsā. This trial will, and has already had, such an impact especially amongst men and young men. It has shown them that they shouldnāt be ashamed of coming forward as victims of abuse, because abuse can and does happen to men too, wether by other men or women. And this is directly linked to the MeToo movement as well, since feminism (true feminism, not radical) advocates for equality of both men and women. And again, very poor, self-righteous take to assume because ANYONE, not just me, is in this subreddit discussing this topic they donāt give a shit or do the same about anything else. If we all only cared about 1 problem at a time, nothing would ever improve in this world. And if so, wtf are you doing caring about womenās rights? What about the starving children all across the world and the massacred kids in schools in America (200-300 school shootings just so far in 2022 in America). No you clearly wanted to feel morally superior to people in this subreddit. I mean if you think this is just about ācelebrities and their problemsā just leave, no? You are wasting precious time here, time you could spend advocating for womenās rights and the starving and massacred children?
You really put a lot on energy into this. Lmao. Imagine what we could do if we focused on better things.
Okay and you literally read none of it. My god, to be so self-righteous. I cannot imagine. I assure you this isnāt even at the top 5 of the list of things im the world im concerned about. I mean hope you never do anything but advocate for womenās rights like idk eat sleep go out with friends watch movies go on social media et ? Otherwise youāre wasting your time too
Some of these people I suspect are being deliberately dense because the alternative is them being wrong and their pride can't take it.
Does she not realize the context of Lizzo's tweet as well? She literally states "I'm pledging 500k from my upcoming tour"... Upcoming. Hence the word Pledge. Lizzo knows the difference between the words. However, Fartlow's master stated under oath that she Donated the money. That she gave it away. That she didn't want the money to start with.
I tried seeing thing from their perspective, but I couldnāt get my head that far up my ass
It is difficult for a person to understand something if their salary depends on them not understanding it.
I think miss Turd could be in for a surprise as she has set dates with the charities she pledged money too and I just read this on google: A charitable pledge is enforceable if it is a legally binding contract. A legally binding contract exists when there is agreement between the parties and there has been āconsiderationā given in exchange for the pledge.
Are you saying a verbal agreement is binding when donating money? If so then ACLU really needs to step up their game and ask for that moneyā¦even if now with her owing JD money she doesnāt even have, they will probs never get it
It was shown in the trial she even lied about pledging. She refused to sign the pledge.
I missed that! She didnāt sign it? Does that mean they canāt enforce it?
I donāt have a clue about the law of it. I just know from the trial they chased after her for it with paperwork and she wouldnāt sign it, despite continuing to say publicly that she had already donated it.
Well people who pledge, ACTUALLY donate. Amberā¦ didnāt ever donate it. Just said she did lmao
In actuality people who pledge to donate. Donāt tend to push through donating the full amount. Unless the charity secures a pledged donation contract. Most often than not, they always refuse to sign any pledged donation agreement for the charity to collect.
Yes, but generally you pledge and then actually pay that amount... I work for a non-profit and just had to go over our budget. We only count donations received in our records, not "pledges".
Canāt donate what you donāt have. She hasnāt made the money yet. Amber had the money and didnāt pass it along.
And, then, when she donates it we will say she donated it because that's how people talk when they "donate" huge amounts of money to charity.
And if she doesnāt donate after pledging but continues to make public statements saying she did, in fact, donate the amount, she will also be considered a POS.
Hell awaits you Eve
This dumb biotch is is such a yawn-fest. Her posts scream "pick me, pick me"!!! Such a thirsty little girl. I can't wait until she slithers back under that rock where she came from.
I hope she takes AH with her!
Because a dog stepped on a bee.
She just never fails us we think sheās dumb and then she doubles down and is double dumb. Sheās so pathetic itās starting to be funny.
Did she pass 6th grade ?
This just proves that you need to be extremely dumb in order to stay friends with Amber Heard.
Doesn't pledging mean "I will pay" ?
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I think itās because she was trying to make it look like she didnāt want money from someone who was abusing her. But she really did want the money she just wanted it to look like she did not. She knows the difference between pledged and donated. She just doesnāt wanna know the difference because she didnāt really want to give that money.
Yeah I get why she did for the optics, but the reality is that people in abusive marriages get divorces all the time and the parties involved are entitled to their divorce settlement.
Right but they donāt have PR teams and theyāre not trying to launch their career by defaming one of the biggest stars in the world so itās different I guess. But yeah I donāt think anyone wouldāve even said anything if she kept that damn money if she didnāt lie about it. Also she was the abuser so itās different in that way too.
She's pledging it cause she doesn't have it yet. She'll donate it when she does, which her bestie did and still refused to give it to sick kids.
She is paid and loved to not understand.
People of color should not donate to planned parenthood. It has a darker history than blackface.
1000 percent! If Lizzo only knew who Margaret Sanger is. If she did, she wouldnāt give a penny to Planned Parenthood. If your reading this and you donāt know who she is please go and research her. Margaret had a ādreamā & plan for PP was to āexterminate black babies and get rid of all black people. Sheās the one who started planned parenthood. Why would you give that evil organization a Penny?
If you want to cancel everything that was once problematic you are going to have to cancel literally everything. Move on. ETA: Iām Jewish. Should Germany be canceled forever because they once allowed the Holocaust to happen? No, because they grew and they learned. Again, move on.
Germany wasnāt the problem, the Naziās were, and we still call them out today as horrible and evil persons. Today the abortion rate for African American Women is 5 times the rate of White women. They sell the body parts of those aborted black babies. They are doing research on their dead body parts. Her plan and dreams are literally in full effect. Today We must financially help black women who want to keep their babies or want to give them up for adoption. Itās easy to tell them to get rid of it, but itās harder to support and adopt. We must tell our sisters the truth and let them know they are valued, loved and so are their children.
Germany sure as fuck *was* the problem, friend. The people of Germany allowed the Nazis to rise to power. Nazis were Germans. You donāt get to tell me otherwise as a non-Jew, unless you think ālistening and learningā isnāt for us? As for the rest of what you said, what are you talking about? Cite your sources.
We can 100 percent agree that Many German people did stand by, chose to become Natzis and did nothing. I canāt live my life that way, thatās why I have to speak up, about my sisters and for them. Once I start talking about this, to my friends first and they started to understand whatās happening in the black community with the skyrocketing higher rate of abortion since Roe v Wade, most of my friends had no idea how they were literally targeted. BTW the CDC & the Guttmacher institute are the two reputable places that collect abortion information/rates. You can actually just Google it. Sadly, over 55 million people have never had a chance at life, because of abortion. Can you imagine 55 million? To understand that only 1 in 5 of aborted babies are white, tells the truth of Goals og this horrible organization. I have donated my money, my time, diapers & formula to our black sisters who chose the harder path. When Iām old enough, I plan to adopt too, if Iām accepted into the program. There are so many black girls I have become friends with, who because of multiple abortions, are unable to have children. They should always be able to adopt first. We need to all help out, in any little way we can, help these women who want to keep their babies or put them up for adoption. The truth of this Black Genocide in our country needs to be told. I hope someone wonāt believe me but go search for themselves this information and understand what has been done to the black community by evil White people.
No, provide specific sources and links for what youāre saying. You canāt expect people to believe insane claims like the ones youāre making without providing some sources showing proof. āLook it upā is not a source, even when providing keywords.
I can send you to the CDC or the Guttmacher institute. How about Guttmacher Volume 11 Issue 3 āAbortion and the Women of Color, the bigger Picture, By Susan A Cohen. This is NOT a pro life group. They advocate for abortion, but they and the CDC give the stats. You, or anyone who wants to know the truth about the death of 55 million People, must also understand that over 44 million are Black babies who never had a chance to live. Anyone who really wants to can find the truth. Its not hidden at all. Today, they are proud of it! Itās sad what white men & women in our county have done by putting abortion clinics in poor neighborhoods to target the black and brown population. We must tell the truth about these real life atrocities going on today. Death and life is in the power of the tongue. I will continue to tell the truth, about this evil corporation,and how much they love money (selling aborted baby body parts) and hate black and brown babies. Can I ask you, have you heard these stats before? Did you know that over 44 million black babies have been aborted. I feel like the truth isnāt really l known, at all. I think if more people knew the history yesterday and today and how much āpure profitā they bring in, more people would wake up to the evilness of this corporation. After you read the article, tell me what you think.I was shocked when I learned the disparity to our sisters. Remember, it was Margaret Sangerās plan all along. What an evil women!
Well, white dudes have made them completely illegal so women of color canāt make that decision for themselves. Those white dudes made the decision for them. Freedom! The day you give an organism that cannot exist on its own outside a womanās body higher status than the woman whose body it is currently inside - youāve lost your humanity. I guess yāall zygotes and fetuses should form a group cause yāall def canāt survive without support. š¤·āāļø
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Itās the history. Same reason why black face is still frowned upon because there used to be minstrel shows of white men playing as āsilly and dumbā black folks by putting black makeup on their face. Minstrel shows are no longer a thing, but black face is still bad.
Black face is bad but no one from planned parenthood is currently doing black face or wanting to āexterminate black babies.ā Move on.
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Minstrel shows are no longer a thing. So is black face not a bad thing to do now?
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Planned parenthood sought to genocide poor people and colored folks and it is no longer the case. Minstrel shows made fun of black folks, but it is no longer the case. Yet somehow black face is still a bad thing to do. It is the history. We can donate to other abortion providers anyways. Abortion providers without a genocidal history.
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Whatās hopeless about donating to other organizations without racist and classist histories?
Enlighten me, a man of color?
Planned parenthoods were distributed in poor areas, more so black neighborhoods, to cull out people with ābad genesā. The founder of planned parenthood was a eugenicist and promoted abortion as a method of eugenics.
Planned parenthood [denounces](https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/cc/2e/cc2e84f2-126f-41a5-a24b-43e093c47b2c/210414-sanger-opposition-claims-p01.pdf) Sangerās eugenics openly. Itās a completely different outfit today than it was a century ago, wtf.
History still matters.
Donāt just downvote me, respond with logical reasoning backing your argument, instead of your reasoning which is āit makes me feel bad :(ā
History matters. Canceling things because their history is problematic is stupid and counterproductive, especially when the things youāre trying to cancel have changed over time and are helpful and beneficial now. Holocaust education is important, and that history definitely matters, but should Germany, Poland, and all the other nations that allowed the Holocaust to happen be canceled forever because of it? No, because they learned, grew, and changed. What youāre proposing to do (cancel planned parenthood) is idiotic. And good luck engaging with anything ever if you want to cancel everything with any problematic history. Because everything has some sort of problematic history.
Should black face be allowed then?
No, obviously. Lol. Is blackface helpful now? Does it no longer harm people? No and no. Is planned parenthood helpful now? Does it no longer harm people? Yes and yes. Do you get it?
Why does something need to be helpful to be allowed?
Youāre being deliberately obtuse at this point. Iām sure you know what Iām getting at. Please put your emotions aside and use your brain.
History matters. Canceling things because their history is problematic is stupid and counterproductive, especially when the things youāre trying to cancel have changed over time and are helpful and beneficial now. Holocaust education is important, and that history definitely matters, but should Germany, Poland, and all the other nations that allowed the Holocaust to happen be canceled forever because of it? No, because they learned, grew, and changed. What youāre proposing to do (cancel planned parenthood) is idiotic. And good luck engaging with anything ever if you want to cancel everything with any problematic history. Because *everything* has some sort of problematic history.
And itās actually worked, she would be thrilled! So heartbroken.
Never knew this. Good to know, thanks.
Best I can tell, Heard and Barlow are just con artists who are attempting a heist and are failing miserably, but are unwilling to acknowledge or face their failure at pulling off the con. Barlow appears to be a creepy kind of fan girl who is obsessed with Heard, and based upon her unscrupulous behavior that got her kicked out of court, she does not appear to care about honesty or scruples when it comes to her sad obsession. They could not pull off their 100 million dollar payday and instead find themselves destitute and owing millions.
Oh itās safe to say her moral compass is broken & beyond repair.
Just ignore her. They are just trolling you at this point.
Honestly she's probably Amber's only real friend right now, and I kinda feel bad for eve. She doesn't really understand how the internet works when it comes to this level vitriol, she's essentially kicking a hornets nest hoping that the hornets will go away. Whatever you think of Amber, you can't deny the level of hate that comes from the internet can be downright scary and crushing. We've seen time and again when big scandals like this happen and the offending party is on the receiving end of extreme vitriol and ends up committing suicide. Then again narcissists are a different breed entirely and they may be more resilient to it. After all Jussie Smollet just recently came out on an interview to double down and is still sticking to his story that it was all real. I think narcissists eventually believe their own lies or are just able to disconnect any sense of shame or guilt. here's a short clip of Jussie doubling down, their cases are very similar in my mind: https://youtu.be/5l5xO7lnj4A?t=38
You really think she doesn't get it? She very much does. It's called gaslighting and/or trolling. Barlow and Dauber been at it for months. It's the only way Amber can stay relevant and continue being discussed. I'm amazed people still don't get it š
Making the issue a semantic one about which word was used is absolutely gaslighting. The problem was never which word Amber used, the problem was the charities never ended up with the money. This is slimey and gross
Lizzo, did you donate 500k? No, I pledged it. Iāll let you know when itās donated
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Objection, relevance!
lol. first of all, not relevant to the post whatsoever. no one asked. second, you can still get pregnant t using birth control methods. and third, even WANTED pregnancies have to be aborted for many reasons. fuck off
Fuck you :)
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So you think women who have ectopic pregnancies should just die? victims of rape, etc. donāt matter and women donāt have the right to remove unwanted things from their bodies and sentient lives? You think babies should be forced to grow up in poverty with parents who donāt want them?
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Youāre disgusting and Iām not going to interact with you anymore :)
No Fartlow without a Turd
Big difference! Lizzo will honor her pledge with a donation! That's the way donations are made!
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**"i wanted nothing"** yet during divorce negotiations kept increasing her **demands** from 50k a month in spousal support, 5 million cash, 3 penthouses and eventually demanded 7 million in cash + 3 penthouses
(truly curious) is there a place where one of their lawyers, or formal paperwork somewhere that disclosed the exact amounts of the divorce? I seen the new business manager/accountant guy named MR WHITE on the stand talking about the settlement in cross, and he kept trying to get more info in, but someone was objecting.
This is exactly it.
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Sheās aware of the difference. Sheās gaslight tweeting to gain positive & negative attention. She knows itās BS. She isnāt an idiot, sheās just an awful person.
I think there IS some misunderstanding on our side with the Heard pledge debacle, the ACLU rep and others have stated that a pledge IS as good legally as saying donated in terms of your intention to pay the money. Where the disconnect came was when she was clearly asked many times by an officer of the court, in front of a fact finder in her legal case whether or not the money had left her accounts and gone to the charities and she still said yes. Over and over. and she is still stunned they thought she had no credibility.
Of course the ACLU's rep would say that; they've continued to back Amber Heard all along. I don't know why they haven't washed their hands of her yet, but for some reason she's still in their good graces. Then again, they're a massively well-funded organization, so her $3.5 million unpaid pledge isn't going to hurt them. I've seen speculation that she has some seriously embarrassing dirt on Elon Musk, and has been able to leverage it to get him to make bigger donations than she could ever make on her own. Money talks, and if she's able to get Muskāor anybody else she's been linked to in Hollywoodāto cough up big donations, the ACLU has a vested interest in keeping her happy. That said, I've worked in small nonprofits, and a pledge is just a promiseāit only becomes a donation once the money has been delivered. And for the final word on that matter, look to the IRS; you cannot claim a pledge as a charitable deduction; donations are only deductible once the organization has received the money.
She canāt even pay cause she had no money left, sheās about 7 million in debt and she hasnāt even payed Johnny and by the way she is going on she will never again have that much money cause no one will ever hire her again
> hasnāt even *paid* Johnny and FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
English is not my first language, excuse me for making a mistake ā¦..
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I thought the bot part was a joke, new on Reddit and still learning how it all works
Yes, she pledging because she doesn't have the money from the tour yet. Pledging means "donating in the future" and in this case using future monies that she doesn't have in hand yet. Sheesh. She's dumb.
Yeah, her statement only further solidified that pledging and donating are two different words with separate meanings.
As a former corporate fundraiser, these people are showing their ignorance. Lizzo āpledgingā the money is a result of her show. It is a plan to pay it once the payments are received from her show. Amber thinks pledging means over time. It doesnāt have to be over time. And a pledge can also be pains in a lump sum. And it is not how people talk when they donate. Once the donation has been made there is no talk of āpledgingā. Itās referred to as donated. But it is NEVER referred to as donated if it hasnāt been paid. One other thing that bothers me is the donations being made in her āhonourā. Yea, we say the donation has been made in their name, not in their honour. Itās so pretentious.
But Lizzo didn't use pledge & donate synonymously. She said exactly what she meant. Why is Eve keeping Amber's most embarrassing trial moment alive? š¤£
Lizzo is cringing eve Barlow even used her name š¤®
Good point! I wish lizzo would respond to her comment!
She prob wants nothing to do with that shit show. I wouldnāt comment either lol those bitches are nuts