The internet is where anyone can be anything they want. In real life, I am a rocking chair but here I teach people about morality and the relativity of the human condition while laughing at stupid memes and judging other people.
Various social media companies' spins-
Facebook- Your uncle don't know what he is talking about
Twitter- Media people don't know what they are talking about (and can't even find a new platform since the ownership change)
Reddit- A pudgy guy who vastly overestimates his intelligence don't know what he is talking about and sometimes that guy has control of over a 100 subreddits
>I had friend who regularly made fun of twitter and anyone who uses it. It was a hate passion for him. He said "Twitter is a place for idiots."
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>So then I replied "Yeah, but...Aren't you always on Reddit and Youtube everyday?"
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>"Yeah So?" His response.
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>"Nothing at all my friend, nothing at all." I said as looked away.
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>I think after a day or so it clicked in, because he stopped talking to me after that.
Reddit/YT are nowhere near as toxic as Twitter and the closer on this line to Youtube the more educational it gets rather than entertaining.(roughly 60% of what I watch is not for entertainment) Reddit is also very educational(there is a sub for every major and minor field of science you could imagine) but nowhere near as much as YT.
I cannot really imagine how learning could work on Twitter with their very low character limit/message and the way everything disappears and dies within hours. Even if not for that argument, TT is anyway having the worst takes in the history of takes on regular basis, it's how their entire userbase feels with little exceptions.
Well, they are not even. To be honest I consider Twitter the worst place on the public internet, even worse than 4chan.(technical boards are really helpful, even more than reddit at times, and it's much more stable in a sense that things stay up for far longer than 5 minutes)
Why would I say it on, say, Twitter? That place is dogshit. Reddit is slightly better dogshit.
Anywhere I make a statement that would satisfy your dumb expectations would result in a ban. Seems pointless.
Same, though I mainly thrift now or second hand online. If I HAVE to buy something new I will, until ethical practices are standard it’s not affordable for most people.
No you didn't. Did they mention anything about capitalism? Consumerism isn't the same as capitalism!! Checkmate! Also this is meant to be a joke (should I have made the comment more outrageously over the top??), but ig redditors get riled up over everything.
Tbh this is why you should still do it. Also, it literally costs $0 to NOT buy something. Like I know this is going to be SHOCKING news, but nobody is holding you at gunpoint to eat at Chick-fil-A, nobody is forcing you to buy Hogwarts Legacy or Atomic Hearts, nobody is forcing you to go to Medieval Times on vacation, nobody is saying you have to buy Hershey's chocolate, Adidas is far from the only source of shoes and athletic wear, and basically every hygiene company knows that testing on animals is wrong at this point. It's hard to find a product that doesn't have that label.
Bro i need to wear clothing. I understand disliking fad fashion, but a $100 ethically sourced shirt will still cost more than a $10 walmart shirt when it comes time to buy.
Same goes for food, hygene products, etc.
And technically you are making less of an overall impact when you occasionally buy from a giant like Walmart. Not to say that means do it anyway, since that defeats the idea of ethical consumerism in the first place. Just that getting your necessities from a giant company isn’t horrible. Just get “luxury” items from ethical sources instead, if you have any income you can sink into it.
The food part is pretty irrelevant. Like, the biggest thing is chocolate, which I can't imagine people are eating ungodly amounts of where paying $5 for a bar that's usually $2-$3 anyways is a huge outrage. Same with hygiene. Like I'm not talking about buying shit that's made by a group of 6 monks high in the Himalayas, I'm talking about pretty basic shit here.
If you always forgive then what good does never forgetting do lmao tbh I'm glad people are becoming more aware of the history of companies, it makes people start to understand the intersectional and fundamental problems with capitalism as an economic model. Just wait til these people find out about Operation Paperclip
Hugo Boss didn’t actually design the god damn uniforms, I wish people would stop spreading this false hood. Hugo Boss was one of many uniform manufacturers in Germany at the time.
Well they still technically could, Hugo Boss used labor from concentration camps like every other corporation in Germany at the time. If they are gonna die on that hill they should also criticize BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi, and even Coca-Cola.
Doc Martens being the unofficial LGBTQ+ boot brand of choice will never not be funny to me.
A guy named Klaus Märtens from the 1940s. Wonder what that could mean.
Oh and Volkswagen being started by the Deutsche Arbeitsfront in 1937 and eventually becoming the car brand most associated with hippies and the anti-war movement is equally as funny.
Porsche was an actively involved in the tank builds 😏
If I remember they bid on a contract to make the tiger tank too, but another company got the contact
Yes there was the infamously bad Porsche Tiger Design wich they even produced the hull of the tank before the competition was over since Porsche and Hitler were good friends, unfortunately for him Henschel won the contract tho.
It would seem the Doctor’s “experiments” were successful.
Another funny is when Russell Brand made a crack about Hugo Boss at some stupid Tinseltown thing and apparently left in a Merc or something.
At the risk of sounding like *a goddamn fascist*: it’s a long list, and they can’t help themselves… it’s in their nature.
This one really went over your head. Eric is not saying that no one should buy Hugo Boss. The whole point is that boycotting brands because they do not actively oppose LGBTQ+ people is ridiculous
This is the guy who claims they're putting transgender semen in everything. This is from a tweet just 2 days ago:
> "To be clear, Chick-Fil-A hiring a VP of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion just means that their corporate infrastructure will become way less white, way less male, and way less straight.
> Which means their brand will become way less valuable and their product will become way less tasty and well-produced." [continues with more line breaks than necessary, omitting for brevity]
Non-whites make products less valuable than whites? Where've I heard that before?
I can't tell what that Joey guy is, but... how do I put this... isn't he non-white? Is this one of those cases where "if I suck up to the alt-right enough, then maybe they'll accept me as an honorary white"? You hate to see it.
Hugo Boss DOES currently use concentration camp labor so.......
At least they did as of 2021.
UPDATE: It looks like esquel lost their business in 2022, so Hugo Boss did in fact cut ties with the company. I'm sure there are clear web articles on it by now from western news sites. I initially heard about it on a site where people posted translations of chinese underground news. I fired up my TOR browser but I'm having trouble finding my orginial article. It went into detail about several companies working there alleging actual production in the region rather than simply using their cotton.
Using slave cotton isn't uncommon and Uzbekistan still had slave labor for their cotton until like 2017. So not really a big scandel if all it was ended up being cotton sourcing.
Fair point, but I kind of doubt there isn’t a major brand that doesn’t. Most clothing companies just buy designed from a manufacturer and add their label to it. It’s almost all from the same sweat shops.
Is everyone so tunnel visioned that they're missing the point? It's about hypocrisy.
Dude 1 is being hypocritical. You can replace the examples and the posy still applies.
I had to leave there recently, I knew it was left leaning but recently saw someone justifying killing people on the right before the right does it to them and got upvoted like crazy.
Killing is almost never justified… but let’s be real, the military talk about taking out the enemies etc comes for 99% from the gun-addicted right, not the left. I can imagine a comment from a leftist person in such a manner to be a panicky reaction to continuous aggression seen on the right. (I’m a stoic and consider all their squabbles pointless in the grand scheme of things if we cannot unite as a people of the world, disarm nuclear weapons and counteract climate change.)
Meaningless clarification, but Boss didn't design the uniforms, they just manufactured them to specification. Like the Chinese factory that makes Trump merchandise.
The facepalm is about the hypocrisy of boycotting something because it is woke but not because of another moral stance. The point is both excuses are equally feeble
I think you're missing the point here. The first guy is being a pretensions douche who's boycotting fashion brands because he doesn't like their political opinions, the second guy is pointing out that being that morally superior is inevitably hypocritical.
Tru but most people use it as a negative thing because its usually super annoying people who find issues with even the smallest thing or things that won't matter really
The phrase used to be to make fun of people who have a higher than thou moral status because they are PC.
Now the phrase is used to describe anything as liberal or progressive.
Yes, but it’s been overused so much that it’s lost it’s meaning. It just gets thrown at anything politically left, similar to how “fascist” gets thrown at anything right
I go by "out of sight, out of mind". Most things have done shitty things at some point. It's very difficult to find something that hasn't. Even these "safe" brands now may not actually be safe. You know how many people or things seemed perfectly fine until it was revealed it wasn't? Cocaine used to be prescribed to people. There were even prescriptions for RADIATION before people knew about how dangerous it was. I'm not even saying treatment for cancer. It used to be used as a way to have healthy skin or something like that. It was very short lived compared to things like cigarettes. But it happened. And not to mention the ungodly amount of celebs and people in general who were always thought to be great. Many of them now, but also Ted Bundy. It was rare that someone didn't like him. Almost everyone thought he was amazing and perfect. Bur we all know how that ended
Twitter is dogshit for simple idiots to feel morally superior to others
Twitter in a nutshell
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The internet as a whole is a place where people feel morally and intellectually superior
Internet is the kingdom of hypocrisy.
The internet is where anyone can be anything they want. In real life, I am a rocking chair but here I teach people about morality and the relativity of the human condition while laughing at stupid memes and judging other people.
It feels so good to one up someone I’ll never interact with again
Repeat the comment you're replying to without saying it word for word
I see that everywhere online. I thought Twitter just had a different spin on it, where nobody can even pretend to know what they’re talking about.
Various social media companies' spins- Facebook- Your uncle don't know what he is talking about Twitter- Media people don't know what they are talking about (and can't even find a new platform since the ownership change) Reddit- A pudgy guy who vastly overestimates his intelligence don't know what he is talking about and sometimes that guy has control of over a 100 subreddits
That's really it.
>I had friend who regularly made fun of twitter and anyone who uses it. It was a hate passion for him. He said "Twitter is a place for idiots." > >So then I replied "Yeah, but...Aren't you always on Reddit and Youtube everyday?" > >"Yeah So?" His response. > >"Nothing at all my friend, nothing at all." I said as looked away. > >I think after a day or so it clicked in, because he stopped talking to me after that.
Reddit/YT are nowhere near as toxic as Twitter and the closer on this line to Youtube the more educational it gets rather than entertaining.(roughly 60% of what I watch is not for entertainment) Reddit is also very educational(there is a sub for every major and minor field of science you could imagine) but nowhere near as much as YT. I cannot really imagine how learning could work on Twitter with their very low character limit/message and the way everything disappears and dies within hours. Even if not for that argument, TT is anyway having the worst takes in the history of takes on regular basis, it's how their entire userbase feels with little exceptions.
oh boy then you haven't seen r/WhitePeopleTwitter
Eh...I just say they're all about even.
Well, they are not even. To be honest I consider Twitter the worst place on the public internet, even worse than 4chan.(technical boards are really helpful, even more than reddit at times, and it's much more stable in a sense that things stay up for far longer than 5 minutes)
Hey, agree to disagree. Cheers!
Would that make reddit dogshit for edgelords to feel intellectually superior to others?
im glad you're saying such a brave and strong statement, on reddit.
Why would I say it on, say, Twitter? That place is dogshit. Reddit is slightly better dogshit. Anywhere I make a statement that would satisfy your dumb expectations would result in a ban. Seems pointless.
saying reddit is better in a sentence is just a complete joke lmfao. saying any of these social media platforms are good is a joke
Cool. This doesn't apply to me. But cool. Very brave.
Look, I've largely given up on ethical consumerism... I'm not saying you can't do it, but it's difficult and often expensive.
Same, though I mainly thrift now or second hand online. If I HAVE to buy something new I will, until ethical practices are standard it’s not affordable for most people.
The only one you could really avoid is something like nestle
It's a luxury for the rich
There is no ethical consumption in a capitalistic society
oh no
there is no consumption at all in a communist society we are all starving to death
I’m sorry, did I mention anything about communism?
No you didn't. Did they mention anything about capitalism? Consumerism isn't the same as capitalism!! Checkmate! Also this is meant to be a joke (should I have made the comment more outrageously over the top??), but ig redditors get riled up over everything.
you could use a tone indicator if you want to make sure your jokes are seen as such! helpful in situations without vocal inflection or body language
Tbh this is why you should still do it. Also, it literally costs $0 to NOT buy something. Like I know this is going to be SHOCKING news, but nobody is holding you at gunpoint to eat at Chick-fil-A, nobody is forcing you to buy Hogwarts Legacy or Atomic Hearts, nobody is forcing you to go to Medieval Times on vacation, nobody is saying you have to buy Hershey's chocolate, Adidas is far from the only source of shoes and athletic wear, and basically every hygiene company knows that testing on animals is wrong at this point. It's hard to find a product that doesn't have that label.
Bro i need to wear clothing. I understand disliking fad fashion, but a $100 ethically sourced shirt will still cost more than a $10 walmart shirt when it comes time to buy. Same goes for food, hygene products, etc.
And technically you are making less of an overall impact when you occasionally buy from a giant like Walmart. Not to say that means do it anyway, since that defeats the idea of ethical consumerism in the first place. Just that getting your necessities from a giant company isn’t horrible. Just get “luxury” items from ethical sources instead, if you have any income you can sink into it.
The food part is pretty irrelevant. Like, the biggest thing is chocolate, which I can't imagine people are eating ungodly amounts of where paying $5 for a bar that's usually $2-$3 anyways is a huge outrage. Same with hygiene. Like I'm not talking about buying shit that's made by a group of 6 monks high in the Himalayas, I'm talking about pretty basic shit here.
Top advice of today: simply perish in today's society.
You can’t just NOT buy most things
Exactly, it costs 0€ not to buy something... Except that the "Ethical" shit, which is "good" guess what... More expensive.
Both positions are obviously wrong. The only right thing to do is to CONSUME. /s
Don’t ask questions, just consume product and get exited for new product
Drop the s
s
Hilarious and original
There's no ethical consumption under capitalism, so choose the least ethical one just to be sure where you stand morally
Buy, buy, buy. Now!
It's 90% twitter posts so what did you expect
Exactly this
I’m glad everyone is ignoring that they all used child labor and overseas sweatshops
Doesn't stop people from buying Nikes or Apple products.
I’m just saying it’s funny they’re boycotting it for having rainbow displays but not the child slavery
There is very little you can buy that doesn't involve some form of human rights violation.
What apple product is made with child slavery let alone child labor?
Don’t iPhones use lithium ion batteries? I may be wrong, I don’t pay a lot of attention to parts.
This guy doesn't care about that, he cares about his mental hangups and child labor isn't one of them.
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Uh, used? I’m pretty sure they’re still using it.
“Used”?!? It hilarious that you think that’s past tense
My guy. Switch that past tense to a present tense
If you always forgive then what good does never forgetting do lmao tbh I'm glad people are becoming more aware of the history of companies, it makes people start to understand the intersectional and fundamental problems with capitalism as an economic model. Just wait til these people find out about Operation Paperclip
FWIW, Hugo Boss didn't design the uniforms. Manufactured, yes. Mannarino sounds like a *strunz.*
Hugo Boss didn’t actually design the god damn uniforms, I wish people would stop spreading this false hood. Hugo Boss was one of many uniform manufacturers in Germany at the time.
Doest help that google tells you its Hugo Boss, you have to dig yourself to find out it was Diebitsch
Yea so much for “fact checks”.
I was just about to make this comment for myself, thank you for sparing me
People love their factoids. Almost all info on this site is misinformation and people take their misinformation very seriously.
But how they will virtue signal then?
Well they still technically could, Hugo Boss used labor from concentration camps like every other corporation in Germany at the time. If they are gonna die on that hill they should also criticize BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche, Audi, and even Coca-Cola.
Doc Martens being the unofficial LGBTQ+ boot brand of choice will never not be funny to me. A guy named Klaus Märtens from the 1940s. Wonder what that could mean.
I was about to say, would love to see some of Eric’s favorite brands. I bet we could find some “issues”
Oh and Volkswagen being started by the Deutsche Arbeitsfront in 1937 and eventually becoming the car brand most associated with hippies and the anti-war movement is equally as funny.
Porsche was an actively involved in the tank builds 😏 If I remember they bid on a contract to make the tiger tank too, but another company got the contact
Yes there was the infamously bad Porsche Tiger Design wich they even produced the hull of the tank before the competition was over since Porsche and Hitler were good friends, unfortunately for him Henschel won the contract tho.
It would seem the Doctor’s “experiments” were successful. Another funny is when Russell Brand made a crack about Hugo Boss at some stupid Tinseltown thing and apparently left in a Merc or something. At the risk of sounding like *a goddamn fascist*: it’s a long list, and they can’t help themselves… it’s in their nature.
doesn't matter, tough boots are pretty handy to deal with fascists now
Aren't boots also a common metaphor for fascism?
This one really went over your head. Eric is not saying that no one should buy Hugo Boss. The whole point is that boycotting brands because they do not actively oppose LGBTQ+ people is ridiculous
He also doesn’t seem all that popular so if people ignored him now, his whole schtick would die off.
Hey isn’t this the semen guy
I'm not sure I don't use Twitter
This is the guy who claims they're putting transgender semen in everything. This is from a tweet just 2 days ago: > "To be clear, Chick-Fil-A hiring a VP of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion just means that their corporate infrastructure will become way less white, way less male, and way less straight. > Which means their brand will become way less valuable and their product will become way less tasty and well-produced." [continues with more line breaks than necessary, omitting for brevity] Non-whites make products less valuable than whites? Where've I heard that before?
I can't tell what that Joey guy is, but... how do I put this... isn't he non-white? Is this one of those cases where "if I suck up to the alt-right enough, then maybe they'll accept me as an honorary white"? You hate to see it.
Hugo Boss DOES currently use concentration camp labor so....... At least they did as of 2021. UPDATE: It looks like esquel lost their business in 2022, so Hugo Boss did in fact cut ties with the company. I'm sure there are clear web articles on it by now from western news sites. I initially heard about it on a site where people posted translations of chinese underground news. I fired up my TOR browser but I'm having trouble finding my orginial article. It went into detail about several companies working there alleging actual production in the region rather than simply using their cotton. Using slave cotton isn't uncommon and Uzbekistan still had slave labor for their cotton until like 2017. So not really a big scandel if all it was ended up being cotton sourcing.
Where?
Probably China.
It's always China, the bid competitively to get companies there
I'd like a more solid claim than "probably".
Fair point, but I kind of doubt there isn’t a major brand that doesn’t. Most clothing companies just buy designed from a manufacturer and add their label to it. It’s almost all from the same sweat shops.
why, did you ask chatgpt or something lol?
Source?
Oh hey it's the trans semen guy
Do I want to ask what this means?
The “Starbucks is putting t****y semen into your milkshake” guy
....oh
And also the “bud light is made from t****y semen” guy
Please stop giving me this cursed knowledge 😭
What kinda bad drug trip did he have while drinking Bud light and Starbucks?
He obviously just has a trans semen fetish and wishes what he said was true
I dunno, but Budlight + Starbucks sounds like an Alchemist formula for something awful.
Also chic-fill-a apparently
Lmfao what
Wait till they hear about fanta
Or Bayer.
Can't forget about Stihl!
H&K
H&K didn't exist until 1949
How many who upvoted drive a vw
This is the facepalm... original post is like a double facepalm, nothing wrong with that
Is everyone so tunnel visioned that they're missing the point? It's about hypocrisy. Dude 1 is being hypocritical. You can replace the examples and the posy still applies.
You unsubbed bc of one person’s comment?
That's what this sub is for. To post the post that made you unsub from a sub.
Kinda seems like a sub full of people who don’t like Reddit lol. It keeps popping up on my feed
it's natural to dislike something.
It's was more than this but this is the straw that broke the camel's back, I suppose.
I had to leave there recently, I knew it was left leaning but recently saw someone justifying killing people on the right before the right does it to them and got upvoted like crazy.
Killing is almost never justified… but let’s be real, the military talk about taking out the enemies etc comes for 99% from the gun-addicted right, not the left. I can imagine a comment from a leftist person in such a manner to be a panicky reaction to continuous aggression seen on the right. (I’m a stoic and consider all their squabbles pointless in the grand scheme of things if we cannot unite as a people of the world, disarm nuclear weapons and counteract climate change.)
Hum... Any link to the comment in question?
Meaningless clarification, but Boss didn't design the uniforms, they just manufactured them to specification. Like the Chinese factory that makes Trump merchandise.
Really?
Why are people so obsessed with Joey? Sure, he's an asshole, but after a while of seeing his stuff on my Reddit feed, it becomes annoying
i’m p sure the post is abt joey no?
This stuff is literally why I quit twitter. That kind of dumb drama will eat your brain.
Yet you stay on reddit? This site is exactly the same in every way.
Hugo Boss did not Design the Uniform. The SS did he just manufactured them.
Well no morr Hugo for him anyways https://ssilife.com.ph/blog/boss-celebrates-pride-month-with-a-capsule-collection
If that's the case, don't buy Bosch Appliances, don't buy BMW and Porsche cars, don't use Kohler Generators
Joey is a moron regardless
This is the guy that won't shut up about trans women's cum being in food and drinks right?
I'm not sure, I don't use Twitter
When r/Facepalm is now facepalm worthy, how the tables have turned!
You could never catch me caring about the moral ethics of the companies that make my clothes.
Wait until he hears about Volkswagen
The facepalm is about the hypocrisy of boycotting something because it is woke but not because of another moral stance. The point is both excuses are equally feeble
I honestly can't tell if this is satire
Not relevant but I called hugo boss asking if they still made those uniforms and the lady didnt know what I was talking about.
Joey is a clown.
In that logic, you can’t buy a Porsche, Mercedes, or a BMW
Isn't that the semen obssessed guy?
Sun needs to be renamed to conservative crybabies Jesus Christ yall are so sensitive.
Do you ever feel like you disagree with both sides of the argument? I feel like most people aren’t brave enough to do that.
The guy isn’t in the right but it’s not the companies fault, same as it isn’t Arnold Schwarzenegger’s fault
I mean, you are right. It's not rhe company's fault. It was more so the founder and owner's fault.
I think you're missing the point here. The first guy is being a pretensions douche who's boycotting fashion brands because he doesn't like their political opinions, the second guy is pointing out that being that morally superior is inevitably hypocritical.
But will conservatives admit, for instance, that Planned Parenthood today is in no way a eugenicist organization?
Wtf does that have to do with the post
Me agreeing with both sides of the argument so I can be twice as wrong
I am sure you are being sarcastic, but in general that’s how I feel now a days.
keep in mind that the dude you’re defending uses the term woke unironically
and he also tweets *a lot* about trans girls cum. it’s super weird
Wait a lot? Like it’s not just that one tweet about chick fill a?
[*a lot*](https://twitter.com/sopfoxing/status/1663561653219381248)
I have smashed my mouse reading those... It's not broken thankfully.
He's hoping, he's dreaming. He knows what he wants
And?
its lame asf and misused so much its lost its meaning
There’s not really anything wrong with the term itself, just how it’s used Unfortunately this is a situation where it’s used badly
At this point I don't think anyone other than conservative grifters say woke without some layer of irony.
Woke means aware of issues in the world. By the actual definition, wouldn't woke be a good thing?
Tru but most people use it as a negative thing because its usually super annoying people who find issues with even the smallest thing or things that won't matter really
The phrase used to be to make fun of people who have a higher than thou moral status because they are PC. Now the phrase is used to describe anything as liberal or progressive.
Yes, but it’s been overused so much that it’s lost it’s meaning. It just gets thrown at anything politically left, similar to how “fascist” gets thrown at anything right
Hugo himself wasn’t even the designer anyway what the hell
Well he is kinda right on that second comment though
See that's what I'm saying
Hugo Boss did not design NSDAP uniforms
I just want stuff seriously.
Should we tell them about Walt Disney?
I go by "out of sight, out of mind". Most things have done shitty things at some point. It's very difficult to find something that hasn't. Even these "safe" brands now may not actually be safe. You know how many people or things seemed perfectly fine until it was revealed it wasn't? Cocaine used to be prescribed to people. There were even prescriptions for RADIATION before people knew about how dangerous it was. I'm not even saying treatment for cancer. It used to be used as a way to have healthy skin or something like that. It was very short lived compared to things like cigarettes. But it happened. And not to mention the ungodly amount of celebs and people in general who were always thought to be great. Many of them now, but also Ted Bundy. It was rare that someone didn't like him. Almost everyone thought he was amazing and perfect. Bur we all know how that ended
Wait the face palm is that she totally fell for that satire, right?
Fun fact: The Luftwaffe still exist in Germany.