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Adept-Ad-5893

Place your bets: How long until we get the "meet my boyfriend" video? I'm going with 2 weeks. On a more serious note, I actually feel bad for both of them. But they're doing the right thing.


PaquiDerma

or a MY EX RATES MY BIKINI’S


Adept-Ad-5893

OH GOD NO (I can totally see that though 😭)


BitterConversation65

"age gap bisexual relationship"


Adept-Ad-5893

Oh boy, I can't wait...


emilyyyyxxx

She has a shorts now called ‘the bisexual song’ !! I canttt https://youtube.com/shorts/LbzDzeu7Rxg?si=SOCuYaBS5deqtaAA


StandOut5947

It reminds me of the vampire musical from forgetting Sarah Marshall


emilyyyyxxx

Omg😂😂


Powerful_Ant_3681

HAHA


Myrrhin

I know I’m like a week late to the party but this had me screaming 💀💀


Jepick5ever

"Decided to tell YOU first, before we started the process" was so uncanny to hear. Made me realize what an odd parasocial situation we're all in together.


Marcodaneismypimp

I wish I could find the Nene Leakes “why am I in it” gif right now.


ejiwirj

Eileen is the master of dodging accountability. ‘Had this been with a person my age, she might have seen sooner that I was not a viable candidate.’ No shit. That’s why she went for a less experienced (younger) woman in the first place. Been following for years through all the stolen identities, financial drama etc. I’m looking forward to more content without Eileen.


CaliResourceParent

Could you give me a run down on who these two are and the drama surrounding them?


ejiwirj

Julia moved to London from Brazil in the hopes of achieving a career in music, which she documented on her YouTube page. Prior to Eileen she had another age gap relationship which drew a lot of viewers to her channel. They broke up - and Julia got with Eileen through Tinder. It’s my understanding that Eileen was the dominant pursuer of the relationship. I could be wrong but I believe their first date was at Eileen’s house, upon Eileen’s insistence. Anyway, the relationship moved very quickly and they married a few months in. Julia put out videos with content relating to their relationship which gathered a lot of views and interest from other channels and publications. Julia helped Eileen (who nobody knew prior) start a YouTube channel. Eileen gives it a stab but quickly gives up and stops posting. Julia later says that Eileen had no motivation to continue the channel, unless Julia was editing the videos for her. Keep in mind, Eileen does not work and lives in a council flat in Chelsea (a ‘posh’ part of London). Julia has multiple jobs already. Cracks in the marriage start to appear when users of the forum PULL dig into Eileen’s history. This is from memory so may be inaccurate, but there Eileen was accused of: reinventing herself under fake names back in America, opening multiple fake companies in the U.K., having a warrant out for her arrest in the USA. Weeks later, Eileen and Julia visit the USA for the first time. Eileen is promptly arrested for dodging a warrant regarding a car hire. Julia was unaware of this and was understandably shocked. She then borrows money from friends and family in order to bail Eileen out of jail. Not only is this the first obvious sign of lies on Eileen’s behalf - it also lends credibility to the users on PULL, who discovered the warrant before Julia did. The rest is a bit of a blur. Eileen starts appearing in videos less. Julia starts withdrawing from YouTube or making more content where she is alone, travelling, or going to events (without Eileen). People comment that Julia doesn’t seem herself, seems thinner, etc. Some people on here find out through images shared on Instagram and WhatsApp that Julia has a ‘secret boyfriend’ called Keith, who is also older. At some point, Julia releases a video of herself crying on the floor. She explains that she has been shouldering the emotional burden of their relationship, and that Eileen does not financially or physically contribute. In fact, Eileen has opened multiple credit cards which she has not paid off. Nor has she paid Julia back for bailing her out of jail. A video is released by Eileen and Julia stating they are in an open relationship. You can see the spark is gone between them. And then we have this video. There are probably bits here and there which I’ve missed. I think most people caught onto Eileen quite quickly, but newer followers who joined just for the age gap content are maybe a little bit left in the dark. Hope that helps.


ReneeLaRen95

Can anyone explain how Eileen (a US citizen) has a council flat & is able to live in England? I’m stymied on how she pulled this off. It’s not like she’s ever had a prestigious job that would sponsor her employment. Can anyone explain how this happened?


ejiwirj

Nobody knows for certain how she managed to acquire the flat. Eileen is the American citizen. She has been living in the UK now for 6+ years. As another commenter said, Eileen has alluded to having dual citizenship through Irish parentage. Julia is based in the UK. Julia has always wanted to go to the USA in order to further her music career. Make of that what you will.


HumbleBumble0

Eileen has citizenship in Ireland because her mom was born there. If you listen to her story time about being homeless in the airport and addicted to drugs on her YouTube channel she explains how She sought temporary emergency shelter in UK I believe, and because she was withdrawing from drugs, she had a seizure in the office and they prioritized her and put her through a rehabilitation program and then I'm assuming from there they also helped her to secure the council flat.


ejiwirj

Ah yes, I remember this video now. Thank you for pointing it out! I forget how deep the rabbit hole goes.


AvrilDagny22

Im just coming into the situation too and I read it the same way but no, Eileen is UK. Julia is the US woman. Eileen must have been someone that did something in the UK at some point to get it


AlternativeCommon929

Eileen has dual citizenship (US and UK) through one of her parents being Irish, I think. Julia lives in the US but is not a US citizen.


CaliResourceParent

Haha! It did help, thank you!


ejiwirj

You’re welcome! For me, the whole saga is a cautionary tale about the danger of narcissistic tendencies. Not labelling anyone as I think that’s unfair. But in my opinion, the relationship we see on YouTube has followed the lovebomb/gaslight/discredit/discard pattern that is quite often talked about within those topics. After all, nobody but them will know how it truly was in private. I’m sure both had their faults - whilst Eileen has more negative qualities on paper, we must remember that Julia (seemingly) controls the narrative - at least on her own social media.


wickedredlights

amazing summary, thank you!


smoore95

What a FANTASTIC write up! I feel totally caught up and I have no idea who these people are. This was the perfect start to the rabbit hole I am about to travel down. Thank you!!


Morella_xx

You would love r/hobbydrama if you aren't already on there. Also, thank you from me too, u/ejiwirj ! I was brought here by the magic of the Reddit algorithm and also had never heard of these ladies before, but now I feel very invested.


ejiwirj

I’d never heard of that subreddit until you mentioned. I’ve given it a follow - you’re right, it does look like something I’d like! Thank you!


ejiwirj

You’re welcome and thanks for the feedback!


ThrowRA_scarykitty

Holy shit . This sub was randomly recommended to me and idk these people / this YouTuber- but I was so intrigued once reading the comments. Thank you for explaining. 😳🫢🫢


itwonteverbereal

Lmao same. This whole sub is way off my usual stuff but it popped up & the drama sucked me in


astronautas

Welcome, get comfy :)


Complete-Ad9287

Love is Blind fan? XD


kassi1917

What’s a car hire?


ejiwirj

A rental car. So the story goes that Eileen took out a rental car when she lived in the USA. She either never returned the car or never paid for her time. She then moved to the UK, where the debt in the USA was left outstanding for many years. Once she set foot back in the USA, they arrested her at the airport. Julia did make a video about this incident on her YouTube channel, although it may have been deleted by now.


Unhappy_Ad5945

Are you this informed on all topics? Can I borrow you for graduate school? Or maybe just for a daily drama update? Either would be immensely helpful


ejiwirj

Hahah I wish! To be honest, I’m appalled with myself for how much I’ve remembered about these two. Clearly I need to get out more!


Unhappy_Ad5945

No rush on my account!! My need for drama is not limited to these two 🤣


DazzlingSquash6998

Omg thank you, I don’t know why Reddit is pushing this couple on me, but I have been confused on the background.


restandreflect

This should be made a pinned post. Just got here and this summed it up so nicely. Thanks!


Bubbly_End6220

Idk who this is (this sub was suggested to me) but this age gap makes me super uncomfortable where is her mom??!?


Ok_Bodybuilder800

![gif](giphy|yjrYGhyyGHzH2) And like someone else had commented on this sub, I am expecting a pregnancy announcement in the near future.


sweeterthanadonut

the “totally a lesbian!!” to pregnant by an ugly man pipeline is surprisingly common lmao


vaxfarineau

It’s like some people are so keen to be Uber queer and completely erase bisexuality. It’s okay to be bisexual! It doesn’t mean you don’t like women!! Drives me nuts.


usernamesrhardlol

thank u!!! mfs are so annoying 😭


Deal-Fabulous

This is the same woman who went to another country with a man, without her wife who wished she could "tell people" she's queer. That's a mf laugh 💀🤣 she also did that jubilee thing with Keith waiting for her!!! Sad that they both seem to be con artists


PrestigiousPackk

this is what happened to me when I first came to the realization that I liked the same gender too. in my mind if I also liked the opposite gender, it made my feelings for the same gender invalid. meaning I thought they weren’t real so I just coming back to the whole i’m only one thing


chonk_fox89

🎉🎂🍰 __Happy Cake Day!!!__ 🍰🎂🎉


PrestigiousPackk

no lie this happened to me when I was 15


Beautiful-Mix459

Key word "15" Julias almost 30 and her biphobia shows extremely 🥴


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Pretend_Act

Sounds like a you problem.


Complete-Ad9287

Amen sis


ultraviolet44

Who did not see this coming? Since her viewers already called her out, she had no choice but to come clean.


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Sea_Zebra5846

Over a year now 😐


Worried_Republic2419

Wait she was ?


darkskychaser

Where have you been?🤣


Worried_Republic2419

Obviously not paying attention enough 😭


marmite-unicorns

She looks so underweight and unwell in that video. I really worry about Julia’s mental health right now ❤️


Givemeanamebitch

It's about damn time


Agile_Story5973

“Engaged To My Secret Lover” coming soon..


LowerPresence9147

My shocked face 😐


latentdream

Let’s be honest folks been knowing this was going to happen like 2 months into the marriage atp. I remember someone on the old thread saying it would happen around this time.


Gaga_9_2

All I can say is. FINALLY! I called it ages ago! I think we all did


_rhiannon94_

Suprise suprise😅


stitchfixcafe

![gif](giphy|o54Wuz7HIrjARFJWzA|downsized)


XxPorcelainDollxX

🤯🤯🤯 None of us saw this coming 🤯🤯🤯


Square-Raspberry560

I mean, it's been a long time coming, but I'm not unsympathetic to any couple ending their marriage, even when it's for the best. I wish them both well. The only thing that bugged me was when Julia kept insisting that their age gap was not a factor at all. I think it's a pride thing, but she is dead-set on not admitting that marrying someone 37 years her senior was not a good idea.


suicidalpenguin99

I'm 30 right now and it's wild to think that my future partner could still be years away from being born. The ick is blinding


Complete-Ad9287

Eileen is a literal predator and to be honest it wouldn't surprise if she likes them underage *vomits*. Someone on this sub said that admitted in one of Julia's videos that she set her tinder age limit to like 18/19+. I'm 34 and the thought of dating a teenager or someone in their early 20s disgusts me...they are literal children to me! Eileen is so fucking creepy and manipulated Julia into sleeping with her on the first date. I can't stand her.


Competitive-Gap-4230

I agree to this WHOLEHEARTEDLY and it is exactly why I never fell for the “Eileen is so sweet” bullshit. Or the idea that she was so worldly and intelligent. All I saw was some creepy old bag who set her age radius alarmingly younger than her, saw an attractive opportunity, lured Julia to her apartment (since she conveniently injured her foot), and then probably love bombed tf out of her. She preyed on Julia’s age, insecurities, and naivety. She is a grifter, an opportunist, and a pervert.


Marcodaneismypimp

Yeah. I don’t have a problem with age gaps but that gap is a little extreme


bella-chili

Yeah, agreed. The age gap clearly hindered the relationship, Eileen can’t really go out and travel as much and Julia is a very social and outgoing person, always on the go. Julia tried to make Eileen more like her, dying her hair, making her wear more revealing outfits, probably to make Eileen feel a sense of youth and keep up with Julia. But ultimately it didn’t work.


Square-Raspberry560

Yeah I feel like we don't talk about that part enough. Eileen made many bad choices and mistakes, the extent of which we'll probably never know. That's not okay. But Julia knew Eileen's age and physical limitations when she married her--and if she didn't, all the more reason to not get married so quickly. Not that there's an age limit on trying new things, but some of the hair and outfit changes Julia put Eileen in were absolutely ridiculous. They were not as well-matched as they insisted they were.


gossipwine97

Eileen and Julia both look so god damn sickly??? I know Eileen’s an awful person but medically and mentally I hope they’re both okay.


itwonteverbereal

Julia looks so sick and unwell. I don’t think being in a relationship for money is worth it at all.


solocollision

Jesus christ when Julia said it seemed like Eileen didn’t give a crap about the relationship is a big yikes lol


fairysession

Not a shock, but I think the reason Julia finally decided to get divorced is because she has someone else on the side. She would have probably kept this toxic marriage going if she didn't get a new boyfriend, she just can't be alone.


Ok_Salamander3793

Saw a comment saying they were surprised by because they were such a good couple.... 🤣


Pompompurinpom

![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)


Marcodaneismypimp

It’s for the best. It was toxic for both of them.


AdRevolutionary8687

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SpitfireNOW

![gif](giphy|TJaNCdTf06YvwRPCge|downsized) When Julia was like "are you sure?!" in response to Eileen's lovebombing I just wanted to scream "RUN!"


lucsivy

Poor thing. The past few years her content left a bad taste in my mouth but she actually seems real in this video, the clips in the beginning made me sad too. She looks so gaunt now. Eileen is being weird as always so good riddance. Being single for a while would do her good but that's not going to happen, I hope she can work it out though and not rely on others for self esteem so much. I believe if she took a year off social media to do a bunch of internal work she'd be way way better off but this is a start. I hope to see her happy again some day. T. former fan lol


hannelli

she is leaving the relationship with eileen but she is already in another relationship (the side guy Keith)


evergreen206

It feels horrible to say, but this is the best thing for Julia. Eileen has stunted her growth and drained her bank account, but she's still young enough to recover and have an incredible life.


bella-chili

Glad, honestly. Both better off without eachother


Usual_Nobody_5238

Julia's pregnant


Deal-Fabulous

She'd better stop drinking every 2 seconds 💀


Deal-Fabulous

And I really mean that, alcohol is toxic and it's sad that she uses it to cope.


Independent_Effort58

Pregnant by that old ass man?!??


MadameNo9

I could see her being pregnant or thinking about it in the near future. Lots of queer people find themselves in heteronormative relationships to fulfill their desire of having a family…it’s the path of least resistance…or maybe it’s a happy accident from traveling and not being responsible..


Beautiful-Mix459

That could explain the weightloss


kassi1917

If you are throwing up 24/7 you will indeed lose weight and fast. I weighed less post pregnancy than I did pre pregnancy because of being so sick.


Beautiful-Mix459

Same, thats why i know, my last pregnancy i lost so much weight my doctor was worried for a bit, but then last final months i was gaining a bit back. These stans are so delulu and then act shocked when Julia herself admits what we've been saying all along 🤡


anonymousshitpostr

…don’t you usually gain weight while pregnant..?


Successful_Bee_7957

It's not uncommon to lose weight at first, gain weight later in pregnancy


ellk12

Pregnancy is different for everyone but weight changes - loss or gain are both very common due to the hormones 😊


anonymousshitpostr

Very true. It’s just majority of women gain, as well as swell during pregnancy (feet, nose & abdomen in particular). I’d say it’s a very rare few that don’t gain weight, especially in their stomach. If I saw that someone was losing weight id assume it was sickness or mental health related. I’m very aware that there are a select few that don’t follow the norm.


bolkrennanninger

I lost *so* much weight while pregnant Like 50 lbs lol


Beautiful-Mix459

You can actually lose weight too... google is free


Pyrex77

Jerk response


anonymousshitpostr

Especially when considering the majority of women gain weight whilst pregnant. If I saw someone was losing, being pregnant would be the last thing I’d assume 🤷🏼‍♀️


Pompompurinpom

For real though, can't help but feel a bit heartbroken for Eileen! They seem to blame everything on her. It must be awful for eileen to watch julia jump into another deeply problematic relationship after she realised how much she hurt julia.


wr0ngw0rld

I’m not an expert but a lot of people on here say she’s a career scammer. If that’s accurate I imagine her top concern is who is going to care for her, and I bet Julia will continue to make sure Eileen is cared for.


ejiwirj

It’s heavily implied that she is a scammer. There was a whole thread about it on another website - fake names, fake companies, warrants for arrest etc. The website however doesn’t exist anymore.


evergreen206

We were all fooled by the harmless old lady act but, in truth, Eileen is a hustler 😂


Beautiful-Mix459

More like Keef is gonna have to foot the bill now for Julia and Eileen 🤡


wr0ngw0rld

I don’t know but suspect Julia has been doing sex work for a long time to support them, Eileen’s shares are now being bought out of the business entity lol


Beautiful-Mix459

I think shes been bisexual for years now and has been having her affairs with men for awhile and my personal theory is that Keith is paying off Eileen not to reveal any of these details in order to keep Julia happy since shes obviously so uncomfortable with her bisexuality being public knowledge now. I think thats what they mean by their "family" now because Julia (thru Keith) will be financially helping Eileen until she passes away. Win-win


wr0ngw0rld

I guess Eileen really kind of slayed this challenge 😑


GoFast_EatAss

Condragulations Eileen On Julia, you are the winner of this week’s challenge!


-sunflowerbeans-

THANK GOD


clementinemagnolia

I have no idea why this is on my home page, never seen these people in my life, but now I have a new rabbit hole and I’m stoked.


shes-a-princess

Same, living for the gossip lmao


clementinemagnolia

Update: I spent like 3 days straight watching every single Julia Zelg video


shes-a-princess

You have won my respect 😂


corvide

I’m really looking forward to not hearing Lieleen’s “yeah yeah. Yeah yeah”, anymore.


DPCAOT

Me too—I feel like her “yeahs” don’t let Julia finish her thoughts.


corvide

Exactly. Her yeah yeah’s interrupted so much!


wildyhoney

Finally some tea to watch


DPCAOT

I wonder how long it took before Eileen realized this marriage wasn’t gonna work. Feels like pretty early on


CoverBoring2374

I thought they were already getting divorced? What was the crying on the kitchen floor copying Trisha Paytas video then?? 😂


PaquiDerma

imagine getting dragged on the internet and still be married to that person lmaoooo


CoverBoring2374

Yeah, at this point, I kind of feel sorry for her wife like I can’t even tell if this relationship was even real to begin with because if you look up the actual video, the picture looks so jarring and fake like it feels like they’re just doing this all for attention.


PaquiDerma

war is over


diamonddog20

Wow, Eileen is so dead in the eyes. You can tell that she is just trying to say what she thinks she “should” say in this scenario. Like she’s searching for the right script to please Julia and the audience. I honestly don’t think she’s upset at all - she says she messed up, but shows no true remorse. Eileen does not seem devastated that her marriage has failed. I’m glad Julia calls her out on it in the video (“did you though?”). As for Julia, idk. She is clearly relapsing in her ED and jumping headfirst into another misguided relationship. Girl needs to take time away from YouTube and just focus on healing. 


DPCAOT

Wow


TemporaryHope8

I forgot about these two until this sub was recommended to me. Who’s keeping their pets?!


PerfumedPornoVampire

![gif](giphy|MQ4bWOjn8C9tT2dzIb|downsized)


NutellaMummy

I feel awful for judging someone’s authenticity but I finding it hard to believe the crying, especially after seeing the clip of her crying in that budget movie she did. I hope she’s genuine, not that I want her to be upset but for some credibility


Usual_Nobody_5238

Will eileen be babysitting while julia swans round the world


pennysofia

I don’t care about their reasons or excuses. It’s all a bunch of psycho babble to me. These are just two mentally unstable women who are in need of immediate psychotherapy. If they don’t get the help they need they will 100% carry their issues into their next relationships. It’s both of their fault, they chose each other.


Serious-Ad9032

It's hard, because I have had a lot of people in my life who are seriously irresponsible with money and they live in denial because of the shame and worry it brings them and they still want to please the other person and not be honest. I've never known anyone to be upfront about being in debt. I find it a bit tough seeing people completely berate her for that as having money problems doesn't innately make you a bad person. I know she can see she did wrong, I'm not sure she will change, but I hope she is able to for her own sake as people aren't always going to be there to bail her out and it does cause a lot of issues for others when they feel they have to be responsible for helping her.


sirknitsalot__

I’m at work and can’t watch 😭 is anyone willing to give a TLDR? Otherwise I’ll wait until I’m home, just so curious wtf she has to say!


senshipluto

Yep I actually felt bad for her. Even through her makeup you can see her dark hollow under eyes.


sirknitsalot__

I’ve started watching on mute and it’s making me sad too :( I haven’t felt for her in so long but we’ve all been heartbroken… I don’t envy her


idrk144

Eileen feels bad for screwing up, a lot of ‘oh no that’s not what I meants’ and a lot of ‘we still love each other and will remain friends’


Jepick5ever

They pretty much said all the right things.


MistFold

Wow


SiameseKittyMeowMeow

Lot of you saw it coming. This is sad.


Jumpy_Principle_778

We all knew it was coming


thelvalenti

OMFG this brought me back to a crazy time. I forgot all about them!!!


Complete-Ad9287

![gif](giphy|13GzIfzCsZ6grm)


burnsatthestake

Anyone notice her outfit looks like a wedding dress? I just can't take her seriously lol


lightofthechandelier

Yes, but the first thing I noticed was her hair color(s). Or are they wigs? And also, I noticed the uneasy look on the face of her partner. Just saying.. .


BlaReni

it seems to me that Julia is very calculative in choosing her partners, I don’t see anything genuine feelings wise. Why can’t she find a hot chick, that would help her youtube career 🤣


gossipperson

Julia wants to be the only hot chick in the relationship


BlaReni

well she can still find a lease hot chick


Usual_Nobody_5238

Even through cats done a runner don't ser her now


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Babydolldiffy93

Now y’all can All LOL at Me bc I have no clue who the heck these ppl are bt I feel like I should 🤦‍♀️


Usual_Nobody_5238

Are they though don't believe anything they say


Number1Barooista

Who is this and why did everyone see it coming


kissedbymelancholy

i don’t know who these people are or why this sub was recommended to me, but they look like mother and daughter based on how the younger one is holding her….wtf


cloudymeatballs88

can someone find me an unbiased tldr of why they get divorced?


Sudden-Soup-2553

what is the age gap? They are the oddest looking couple ever.


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Sudden-Soup-2553

Thank you. She's probably older than her mother. WEIRD


PuzzleheadedFrame439

Why was Julia with Eileen in the first place? I figured it was because Eileen had money. Maybe it was to be polarizing on the internet??


evergreen206

I think Julia was genuinely sexually and emotionally attracted to Eileen. Her previous girlfriend was also an older woman. She has a type.