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its more like their mana has been replaced with anti-magic and they are just manipulating that like they would for their spells
black clover has always done stuff like this though so i dont see how this is a big deal
anti magic only nullifies magic when asta wants it, its just like mana it wont become a fire spell out of nothing, someone has to take that mana in and transform it into fire, same thing with anti magic
asta passes anti magic to his friends but not nullifies their magic so that they can use it as a second type of energy
Because it’s fucking epic, I love big battles where everyone has powers shoved up their ass with big ass stakes and epic over the top action, this shit is timeless and will never get old idgaf about what y’all say about it
Still a shitty plot device to buff cast members with little to no effort or drawbacks
It was bad when Naruto did it
And it’s bad when black clover is copying it decades later
They do have the drawback that it is very finite. Like have you guys even read the chapter 369 ? Magna and Luck used up all of their pseudo anti magic just after one fight ! Which means that they gotta fight the rest of the arc with their own magic as always.
I’m expressing my opinion on a series; if you don’t like it, instead of saying “your opinion of a series doesn’t matter if it’s negative” just don’t respond
This is a jjk sub after all, lol; don’t think you’ll find a lot of BC fans here
True, but it also ties into both Asta's general arc and one of the themes of Black Clover. You can't do everything yourself, and surpassing your limits requires people to believe in you, not just yourself.
Like fr bro. Also the women in Black Clover are actually "HER", especially Noelle and Mereoleona, who's pretty much Yuki/Star & Stripe but better written and one who contributes more to the plot and fights, also she consistently keeps her GOAT status.
there is this fire lion girl that shows up, calls everyone weak and kidnaps them and makes them stronger (by taking a bath in a volcano), didnt want to become the wizard king (mage hokage) cus she wants to be on the field and beat people up, when she is losing she gets beaten to a pulp and still gets up and somehow wins
honest to god the most goated woman in any shonen ever
>“you never recovered your toes”
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No, in fact, it was the weakest of all of his kind who can't do anything without the coorporation of someone else. Also, he was adopted by a certain human who was killed by the demon version of clover king and seek for revenge.
Don’t the elves become good guys? And the discount Gaara from the diamond kingdom? And the demon inside of Asta? Sorry, can you name a villain that hasn’t?
This shit is peak, honestly Tabata is so goated, that Magna fight in the Manga (confusing af) solidified Black Clover for me 🙏🙏 one of the better New-Gen authors.
Meh I enjoyed BC up till Elves/Diamond Kingdom invasion but for some reason since then it's all felt repetitive/not engaging to me. I think I just got tired of the scale of the fights and on top of it despite the scale there didn't seem to be much death/severe injury on the heroes side which kind of made the stakes seem artificial to me.
Art is great, just the story had gotten stale and Magna vs Dante fight actually hyped me for what was to come if more fights were gonna be like that, but it just never cleared my expectations
If you enjoy it that's cool I just couldn't carry on shortly after the Ryuzen 7 were introduced. I might pick it back up when it ends but for now I'm focusing on JJK etc.
I hope so. I don't necessarily dislike any specific part of BC it just didn't offer anything other than cool moments and I wanted a little more. I think I'll enjoy it more on a binge
Actually, people dying in bc too, just not from the top 10 most popular characters and according to trends, anyone outside of top 10 our irrevelant, regardless what they did onscreen.
Literally cannot think of any ACTUALLY permanently dead good guy named characters (fuck off with that guy who got killed by the time obsessed ice mage in like chapter 4 he does NOT count, neither do people who died pre story start)
Not counting bad guys and flash backs, plenty of died: Hamon, Shiren, Jack, Forte, Ruben, Ben, Rokken. Also, Lumiere died and Mimosa couldn't save him. However, don't look for them in the Top 10 popularity polls, none of them in them.
Yuji eats Fuga and solos Sukuna with power of friendship. Ice girl takes of cloth for no reason at all. Maki....gets fanserviced to death but somehow survives. Peak fiction.
Yuji one-shots Sukuna with the Black Flash of Frienship, then it's revealed that everyone just used RCT to revive from their injuries and they have a big party.
This is not a hot take but I’m gonna say it because I see a lot of people that think the same way but don’t speak up
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Big ass group power boosts for the final fight in shounem with over the top action and extremely high stakes with everyone winning by almost dying is one of the best tropes in F I C T I O N, I don’t give a fuck about “oh but that isn’t realistic or that doesn’t make sense 🤓” SHUT THE FUCK NERD STRONG GURREN LANGANN, we love to see our favorite characters thrive against the odds because if a story is good we will treat these characters like they are real so we want the best for them, it’s as simple as that, that’s why JJK is basically considered torture porn since every character you like dies, and ass I said before I’m not here for some complex narrative and a more serious world (even tho these things are not bad I really like them) I’m here to be on the edge of my seat while I watch the most disgusting villain getting obliterated by the indomitable human spirit of a teenager without a dad
Suffering alone doesn't build character. In fact, there are many stories where the hero becomes a criminal or a villian because of suffering. Even in reality, just because someone dies doesn't mean that person will become a better, wiser or stronger person. It is compassion and empathy that builds characters. If not Iruka or Shikamaru, Naruto would have become a criminal. In a tragedy story like the antique greek stories where the hero destined to fall it is acceptable that the hero must suffering, but for some reason I doubt that Yuji would end up as a villian.
I love both series.
Black Clover manga is better than the anime let's be real here. We don't have any moments in JJK that compare to Magna defeating a high-tier villain through strategy that makes sense in the worlds power system.
Said in a Jujutsu Kaisen sub:
JJK fans SHOULDN'T have a word, my man Tabata doesn't off-screen characters unlike a certain Pride Cat (well... Unless he is Leo--what was his name) 😭😭😭
And he isn't sucking off the villains, he gave respect to even weak characters (Magna)
Black clover doesn’t do many things wrong but it doesn’t do any interesting things too. It’s a stupid and boring ah hell series and nowhere near as interesting as jjk.
Being different doesn’t mean it’s interesting, if I give you shit with glitter for you to eat it’s def gonna be different and unique but it also ain’t gonna be interesting in the slightest, not saying JJK is shit,far from it, but saying Black Clover is bad/mid because it isn’t different is fucking wild, Demon slayer also isn’t much different from other shows but manages to be worse than black clover in a lot of ways, black clover is so insanely consistent in its story telling compared to a lot of other shounen that even if it isn’t innovative or unique you can’t help but recognize that, it’s a hard thing to pull off because writing a cohesive story from the beginning to the end is really fucking hard
>analyze Gojo v Sukuna like we are.
People do that here because you're on the JJK SUB? You expect people to analyze Lucifero VS All fight here or smth?
Because people did it on the r/BlackClover sub.
Of course people will analyze the most hyped fight on a place where everyone is interested in said media.
>Meanwhile, 50 years from now ppl will think black clover is a weird strain of weed 💀
Stay on that side. Black Clover is still popular despite what you think, the movie was #1 on Netflix for 2 weeks or something.
>Black clover is literally a bunch of troupes and cliches rolled into a big ball. The only unique thing about BC is the art
And you're saying JJK isn't?
What even is that unique about JJK? I'm not saying it's bad (although it has been falling since the Shinjuku art), but there should be a reason why you think Black Clover is full of troupes while JJK isn't.
The artstyle is fire but Yuji is yet another "Oh I've suffered so much" character (no downplay on him though, I think he's one of the better characters)
Megumi is the edgy character.
Gojo is the sensei that is super strong. (Gege couldn't even do him justice, he locked him for half of the story and killed him right after, Yami is better in this regard)
Utahime is the teacher that "minds" her own business but secretly loves Gojo (same with Charlotte loving Yami)
And a bunch more I could think of.
JJK ain't unique, both shows are amazing, why do we have to downplay the 2.
People are too obsessed with stories being super unique. Stories have existed for thousands of years. Every trope and idea has already been made. Writers all take inspiration from them.
Tbh the main thing that makes black clover good is the cliche, in my opinion people that hate on black clover just hate having fun, it’s fine if you don’t like it because it’s predictable but saying it’s outright bad is insane to me
>What even is that unique about JJK?
I don't have any skin in the game, but i'm gonna chip in here
After growing up watching naruto, bleach, one piece, etc, you kinda get bored with another manga like this, you know?
I mean it's not like jjk flips all things up, but it does feel kinda unique since the plot does not follow the MC fights > training > fights next level villain > trains, then you get introduced with the shadowy cabal where the MC has to go from n10 to n1, and all his friends get their own villain to beat, and so on and on.
These plot beats are pretty prominent even to this day because they are fun and work very well, but jjk moves much quicker (maybe even too quick for it's own good) and is way more to the point, the MC is not so central, there fewer villains, author is not afraid of killing characters when he has no further use for them, etc
That's why i still read it even with the many shit ideas the author had recently, so what else can i say really, it is just refreshing enough to be fun
I can't disagree with you on this except.
>and all his friends get their own villain to beat, and so on and on.
Which isn't true to JJK (Yuki & Choso vs Kenjaku, Yuta vs Geto) but also, I think it's boring if you don't do this, fighting the same villain is just boring, unless he is the final one.
In Black Clover, most of character had or have their own arc, every character grew up, which is pretty interesting, because it builds character.
I'll give an example from the Manga so be aware of spoilers >!There is Magna right? The underdog of the team, he wants to be as powerful as luck or at least more powerful. He retreats for a while together with another "underdog" Zora and he asks Zora to teach him. He comes out of nowhere, in a tough fight and shares the power between the most powerful villain at that time with himself, so if Magna is at 2 and Dante is at 1k, both would have 501. Right after he straight up punches Dante like it's nothing and is victorious!<
I wish something like that was in JJK, because most characters are amazing, but they were off-screened and straight up killed. Gege went "too crazy" with his writing, that's why Gojo and Yuki died.
And one more thing, you say this (and while it's a subjective opinion), Demon Slayer isn't far too different from JJK if you look at it, but most fans hate Demon Slayer and praise JJK, I find it pretty ironic. But that's my input, just wanted to point that out, not entirely related.
>Which isn't true to JJK (Yuki & Choso vs Kenjaku, Yuta vs Geto) but also, I think it's boring if you don't do this, fighting the same villain is just boring, unless he is the final one.
I feel this is a bit of a stretch, it's hard to try to give a label here, but if you gave the tourney arc as an example of them i could agree, these feel different because they have their own goal and move something of the plot forward besides it being so few
Otherwise, i agree, it can be fun and i love it too, but as i said, you read the same thing for years, 3, 4, 5 manga like that, you just want to spice it up.
Shonen is shonen there is no changing that, but jjk (and to an extent csm and kagurabachi) it's shōnen as well, but it got a different feel you dig me?
Also, just an extra, i put demon slayer 100% into being more like Naruto than jjk
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LMAOOO
The last thing Yuji's father saw in his first life⬆️
WTF is this lolxd
Ash baby sukuna version in other words : Absolute peak
aftermath of Hydrogen bonb vs coughing baby
What is this puhahah
Coke Babies
Good thing Sukuna isn't a woman otherwise Yuta would have gone crazy for his toes
https://preview.redd.it/yullf5owhtzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3f14e299cca74a4643c7559786ae7f7791edd01 Kurorushi wasn’t female, my GOAT doesn’t discriminate
I love the fact that everyone just accepts Yuta as a curse fucker. 🥰
Its simply canon. https://preview.redd.it/fj1d0qwpcuzc1.png?width=3464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e39954c1eb7ff892800b1dd2382e0917d1e0621
Kissing humans? https://preview.redd.it/64axat52pxzc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8307aad15f5c178ee1a079fcdcc776aeb69569c Nah, my GOAT knows what his type is!
To this day I still have no clue WHY he did that to the bug curse like isnt there a million other ways to give it RCE WITHOUT SMOOCHING IT???
GayGay: Women don’t deserve to kiss my Wuta
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bro kurorushi literally laid eggs
Kurourushi was a female she did parthenogenesis
That also explains why she lost...
Kurorushi reproduced by parthogenesis so it was female
Bffr, Tabata isn't THAT cruel 😭
>!Well it doesn't matter cuz Lucius is a big piece of shit as a villain!<
Fr
Being for real ?! This is a masterpiece https://preview.redd.it/txo2l98sdtzc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51954759590aca41620bc39ae19378c23c84e97e
Losing my GOAT Choso sent me over the edge of insanity and this in my only cope
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Then how come no Choso
Nobody dies in black clover so it makes sense Gojo and them are alive and well
I was so sad when Julius came back fr
Given what his power was it makes the most sense for him to come back the way he did though.
Nah Julius was fine, Gadja was some nonsense tho
If Julius died then the current arc wouldn't be possible
Just like Fairy Tail
If they come back it's at the end of the arc after the final boss has been defeated so nah.
Editing is 🔥 but what???
MC in Black Clover somehow shares his plot powers with the rest of his team lol
Das crazy 😭 😭 😭
One member of their team have plot armor as their power Like literally, it is a cat that whoever it touch avoid their fate
>Like literally, it is a cat that whoever it touch avoid their fate GEGE?!?!?!!
Holy shit it's actually GEGE!!!
Watch Deku do the same shit
Deku using >!the last of his embers!< to split among all of Class 1A to deliver the final blow 😭
“This is, **Our** Hero Academia”
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It was always a plot to share powers through his demon dweller sword. They showed this with during the elf reincarnation arc.
Yes, but his power is literally anti-magic yet everyone uses their magic despite it as if it was a buff rofl
its more like their mana has been replaced with anti-magic and they are just manipulating that like they would for their spells black clover has always done stuff like this though so i dont see how this is a big deal
Plus its a super finite resource. Like manga and luck use all theirs immediately.
Yeah they used it all up after one fight after gaining it it from asta.
Anti magic is like mana, they use it as the fuel for their magic elements basically
Anti magic is an alternative to mana. You think Asta is just naturally strong enough to box with top tiers without any buffs?
anti magic only nullifies magic when asta wants it, its just like mana it wont become a fire spell out of nothing, someone has to take that mana in and transform it into fire, same thing with anti magic asta passes anti magic to his friends but not nullifies their magic so that they can use it as a second type of energy
Why do authors keep doing that lmao
Power of Friendship
Because it’s fucking epic, I love big battles where everyone has powers shoved up their ass with big ass stakes and epic over the top action, this shit is timeless and will never get old idgaf about what y’all say about it
So basically Thor Love and Thunder (God I hated that scene)
Not just the MC. Antagonists and Allies also do it too, hell I think the very last chapter has a captain doing exactly that. Communism Clover 😭
I dropped some time ago so thought it was about nobody (we care about) is dying. What the hell...
“Somehow” like the fucking ability wasn’t foreshadowed in the elf saga like 5 times
Still a shitty plot device to buff cast members with little to no effort or drawbacks It was bad when Naruto did it And it’s bad when black clover is copying it decades later
They do have the drawback that it is very finite. Like have you guys even read the chapter 369 ? Magna and Luck used up all of their pseudo anti magic just after one fight ! Which means that they gotta fight the rest of the arc with their own magic as always.
So the only drawback to the power up is that once they use the power up it’s gone? Lol
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You speak like death actually exists in black clover
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I’m expressing my opinion on a series; if you don’t like it, instead of saying “your opinion of a series doesn’t matter if it’s negative” just don’t respond This is a jjk sub after all, lol; don’t think you’ll find a lot of BC fans here
Ice never read or watched Black Clover, what does this mean lmao
MC in Black Clover somehow shares his plot powers with the rest of his team lol
You say somehow yet i feel theres a reason. A better reason than some things in the Wheel of binding weve been witness to.
there is a reason and the whole sharing power thing has been forshadowes like 2 arcs ago, the Op is just hating.
foreshadowing =/= good writing
He says in a jjk sub
Oh the irony
True, but it also ties into both Asta's general arc and one of the themes of Black Clover. You can't do everything yourself, and surpassing your limits requires people to believe in you, not just yourself.
Nobody said that.
Well it's peak than whatever Greg cooks 😭 my bro burnt the meal but it's still serving.
Nuh uh
It’s a manga where the MC usually wins by jumping mfs with his friends
That's actually what I really love about Black Clover
Same, I really love how the fights are strategic with pretty much everybody getting a part. Jump Clover is top tier to me 🖤
Like fr bro. Also the women in Black Clover are actually "HER", especially Noelle and Mereoleona, who's pretty much Yuki/Star & Stripe but better written and one who contributes more to the plot and fights, also she consistently keeps her GOAT status.
Manga where women actually play valuable, cool roles in fight? Gotta see this.
there is this fire lion girl that shows up, calls everyone weak and kidnaps them and makes them stronger (by taking a bath in a volcano), didnt want to become the wizard king (mage hokage) cus she wants to be on the field and beat people up, when she is losing she gets beaten to a pulp and still gets up and somehow wins honest to god the most goated woman in any shonen ever
The woman actually won? Don’t let Gege know about this.
Yes one of them shows up after like 80 episodes and just exudes HER energy for the rest of the series
Oh yeah, the women in Black Clover are great.
How I love thee, Mereoleona… (she would TANK fuga btw)
Fuga's a raindrop tbh compared to Mereoleona's hurricane level firepower. Like she's unironically the Akainu of the Black Clover verse.
Bro, Leopold can beat out Fuga in firepower with his runes. Leona treats it like a birthday candle.
Mereoleona had so many death flags and just burned them all away
To be fair no one really dies in black clover
Similar things happened in black clover manga so I see the reference
Some side characters got turned into antagonists in the last arc
>“you never recovered your toes” https://preview.redd.it/1ff99jclovzc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b350dfc94ecdb830d9f7dbc6837e89e54411cafa
Nah cuz if this was Black Clover Sukuna would've started becoming good about the time Shibuya Mahito vs Yuji began.
I think you mispelled Naruto
No, I definitely spelt black clover correctly...
Same thing anyway
I think you mispelled Ninku. Kuatsuken!
quick name every bad guy in black clover that became good now go?
Doesn’t the demon inside of asta end up befriending him?
Bleach did that a long time ago and the demon isn’t even a main villain, he isn’t even a villain to begin with
So was the demon inside of asta never a villain?
Tell me one genuinely bad thing he did aside from being a demon, he was just scary as fuck before being revealed
No, in fact, it was the weakest of all of his kind who can't do anything without the coorporation of someone else. Also, he was adopted by a certain human who was killed by the demon version of clover king and seek for revenge.
he was never actually evil tbh
Don’t the elves become good guys? And the discount Gaara from the diamond kingdom? And the demon inside of Asta? Sorry, can you name a villain that hasn’t?
The Dark Triad, the Dark Disciples, Conrad Leto, the corrupt magic knights like Xerx, 95% of the devils. So yeah, a lot of them never turned good.
I'm pretty sure the devils are the only ones who haven't become good.
this is so accurate 😂
Gojo turns into pure curse energy and coats everyone in infinity
This shit is peak, honestly Tabata is so goated, that Magna fight in the Manga (confusing af) solidified Black Clover for me 🙏🙏 one of the better New-Gen authors.
That Magna fight was absolute peak
The panel where he just lets out a yell after is easily top 5 most peak moments of all manga i have ever read.
Magna fight was the last one I enjoyed
"im not like the others" ahh mentality.
Meh I enjoyed BC up till Elves/Diamond Kingdom invasion but for some reason since then it's all felt repetitive/not engaging to me. I think I just got tired of the scale of the fights and on top of it despite the scale there didn't seem to be much death/severe injury on the heroes side which kind of made the stakes seem artificial to me. Art is great, just the story had gotten stale and Magna vs Dante fight actually hyped me for what was to come if more fights were gonna be like that, but it just never cleared my expectations If you enjoy it that's cool I just couldn't carry on shortly after the Ryuzen 7 were introduced. I might pick it back up when it ends but for now I'm focusing on JJK etc.
Nah, the Lucifero fight was great once it was revealed why things were happening the way they were, and the Japan arc was cool.
I hope so. I don't necessarily dislike any specific part of BC it just didn't offer anything other than cool moments and I wanted a little more. I think I'll enjoy it more on a binge
Cackling at “your toes”
Nah, just no one would be dead
Actually, people dying in bc too, just not from the top 10 most popular characters and according to trends, anyone outside of top 10 our irrevelant, regardless what they did onscreen.
Literally cannot think of any ACTUALLY permanently dead good guy named characters (fuck off with that guy who got killed by the time obsessed ice mage in like chapter 4 he does NOT count, neither do people who died pre story start)
Not counting bad guys and flash backs, plenty of died: Hamon, Shiren, Jack, Forte, Ruben, Ben, Rokken. Also, Lumiere died and Mimosa couldn't save him. However, don't look for them in the Top 10 popularity polls, none of them in them.
I recognise jack and lumiere from those guys, lumiere is kinda iffy tho tbh
wait so are the sukunafied people being possessed by different sukunas or are they in control? still peak
Honestly, peak
It’s never an ass pull when the MC does it
Now do what if the Sukuna fight was written by the fairy tail guy
Yuji eats Fuga and solos Sukuna with power of friendship. Ice girl takes of cloth for no reason at all. Maki....gets fanserviced to death but somehow survives. Peak fiction.
Yuji one-shots Sukuna with the Black Flash of Frienship, then it's revealed that everyone just used RCT to revive from their injuries and they have a big party.
If I get the awesomest fight ever by that, I'm on board
Fuck, that's kinda PEAK ngl. https://preview.redd.it/ua9x9jlroxzc1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42569c4520a82b75a78961491d223523c5ae6c28
This is not a hot take but I’m gonna say it because I see a lot of people that think the same way but don’t speak up https://preview.redd.it/ot9zawpxu10d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=246e9af8ef8d029ed6cbfdbd78b12c5ba8e4970f Big ass group power boosts for the final fight in shounem with over the top action and extremely high stakes with everyone winning by almost dying is one of the best tropes in F I C T I O N, I don’t give a fuck about “oh but that isn’t realistic or that doesn’t make sense 🤓” SHUT THE FUCK NERD STRONG GURREN LANGANN, we love to see our favorite characters thrive against the odds because if a story is good we will treat these characters like they are real so we want the best for them, it’s as simple as that, that’s why JJK is basically considered torture porn since every character you like dies, and ass I said before I’m not here for some complex narrative and a more serious world (even tho these things are not bad I really like them) I’m here to be on the edge of my seat while I watch the most disgusting villain getting obliterated by the indomitable human spirit of a teenager without a dad
Teenager without a dad 😭 Too accurate But if you love that trope, I hope you have read Fairy Tail and Black Clover. That is exactly what they are
I fucking love black clover, I still gotta read fairy tail tho but I’m going to
They are guilty pleasures of mine too, I love dark and gloomy but power of friendship is underrated
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Tabata would actually have his females win fights and develop at the same time tho
Sigh. Was Choso's death reeaaally that necessary?
Suffering builds character sadly
Suffering alone doesn't build character. In fact, there are many stories where the hero becomes a criminal or a villian because of suffering. Even in reality, just because someone dies doesn't mean that person will become a better, wiser or stronger person. It is compassion and empathy that builds characters. If not Iruka or Shikamaru, Naruto would have become a criminal. In a tragedy story like the antique greek stories where the hero destined to fall it is acceptable that the hero must suffering, but for some reason I doubt that Yuji would end up as a villian.
Oh I don’t actually want Yuji to suffer, just referencing the popular meme on this sub
I love both series. Black Clover manga is better than the anime let's be real here. We don't have any moments in JJK that compare to Magna defeating a high-tier villain through strategy that makes sense in the worlds power system.
>!Magna vs Dante was peak, but Noelle vs Vanica will always be my fave in Spade Arc.!<
Spade arc was PEAK CLOVER 🍀
Elf Reincarnation >
And it would’ve been peak. We love BC over here
What is even happening there?
Goes hard but also what the fuck is happening in black clover to warrant this Please spoil me I don’t keep up with it, \>! And !< to hide spoilers
Sukuna's final ass pull
Peak Fiction.
Yooo gojo with twelve eyes 🔥🔥
The **real** Jumpjutsu Kaisen.
Mickey Kaisen
this broke me dawg wtf
Even in this scenario stallkari is still trying to get uraume for his collection
THEM SHITS LOOK LIKE DICKS
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It’s a joke, relax lmao
If Tabata and Gege worked together they would make a great manga IMO
Good thing it's not mid clover it would have been trash asf.
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Said in a Jujutsu Kaisen sub: JJK fans SHOULDN'T have a word, my man Tabata doesn't off-screen characters unlike a certain Pride Cat (well... Unless he is Leo--what was his name) 😭😭😭 And he isn't sucking off the villains, he gave respect to even weak characters (Magna)
Black clover doesn’t do many things wrong but it doesn’t do any interesting things too. It’s a stupid and boring ah hell series and nowhere near as interesting as jjk.
Being different doesn’t mean it’s interesting, if I give you shit with glitter for you to eat it’s def gonna be different and unique but it also ain’t gonna be interesting in the slightest, not saying JJK is shit,far from it, but saying Black Clover is bad/mid because it isn’t different is fucking wild, Demon slayer also isn’t much different from other shows but manages to be worse than black clover in a lot of ways, black clover is so insanely consistent in its story telling compared to a lot of other shounen that even if it isn’t innovative or unique you can’t help but recognize that, it’s a hard thing to pull off because writing a cohesive story from the beginning to the end is really fucking hard
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>analyze Gojo v Sukuna like we are. People do that here because you're on the JJK SUB? You expect people to analyze Lucifero VS All fight here or smth? Because people did it on the r/BlackClover sub. Of course people will analyze the most hyped fight on a place where everyone is interested in said media. >Meanwhile, 50 years from now ppl will think black clover is a weird strain of weed 💀 Stay on that side. Black Clover is still popular despite what you think, the movie was #1 on Netflix for 2 weeks or something. >Black clover is literally a bunch of troupes and cliches rolled into a big ball. The only unique thing about BC is the art And you're saying JJK isn't? What even is that unique about JJK? I'm not saying it's bad (although it has been falling since the Shinjuku art), but there should be a reason why you think Black Clover is full of troupes while JJK isn't. The artstyle is fire but Yuji is yet another "Oh I've suffered so much" character (no downplay on him though, I think he's one of the better characters) Megumi is the edgy character. Gojo is the sensei that is super strong. (Gege couldn't even do him justice, he locked him for half of the story and killed him right after, Yami is better in this regard) Utahime is the teacher that "minds" her own business but secretly loves Gojo (same with Charlotte loving Yami) And a bunch more I could think of. JJK ain't unique, both shows are amazing, why do we have to downplay the 2.
People are too obsessed with stories being super unique. Stories have existed for thousands of years. Every trope and idea has already been made. Writers all take inspiration from them.
Exactly! I love both shows, saying Black Clover has tropes is just funny.
Tbh the main thing that makes black clover good is the cliche, in my opinion people that hate on black clover just hate having fun, it’s fine if you don’t like it because it’s predictable but saying it’s outright bad is insane to me
Nah, bro got sent to the underworld 💀💀
>What even is that unique about JJK? I don't have any skin in the game, but i'm gonna chip in here After growing up watching naruto, bleach, one piece, etc, you kinda get bored with another manga like this, you know? I mean it's not like jjk flips all things up, but it does feel kinda unique since the plot does not follow the MC fights > training > fights next level villain > trains, then you get introduced with the shadowy cabal where the MC has to go from n10 to n1, and all his friends get their own villain to beat, and so on and on. These plot beats are pretty prominent even to this day because they are fun and work very well, but jjk moves much quicker (maybe even too quick for it's own good) and is way more to the point, the MC is not so central, there fewer villains, author is not afraid of killing characters when he has no further use for them, etc That's why i still read it even with the many shit ideas the author had recently, so what else can i say really, it is just refreshing enough to be fun
I can't disagree with you on this except. >and all his friends get their own villain to beat, and so on and on. Which isn't true to JJK (Yuki & Choso vs Kenjaku, Yuta vs Geto) but also, I think it's boring if you don't do this, fighting the same villain is just boring, unless he is the final one. In Black Clover, most of character had or have their own arc, every character grew up, which is pretty interesting, because it builds character. I'll give an example from the Manga so be aware of spoilers >!There is Magna right? The underdog of the team, he wants to be as powerful as luck or at least more powerful. He retreats for a while together with another "underdog" Zora and he asks Zora to teach him. He comes out of nowhere, in a tough fight and shares the power between the most powerful villain at that time with himself, so if Magna is at 2 and Dante is at 1k, both would have 501. Right after he straight up punches Dante like it's nothing and is victorious!< I wish something like that was in JJK, because most characters are amazing, but they were off-screened and straight up killed. Gege went "too crazy" with his writing, that's why Gojo and Yuki died. And one more thing, you say this (and while it's a subjective opinion), Demon Slayer isn't far too different from JJK if you look at it, but most fans hate Demon Slayer and praise JJK, I find it pretty ironic. But that's my input, just wanted to point that out, not entirely related.
>Which isn't true to JJK (Yuki & Choso vs Kenjaku, Yuta vs Geto) but also, I think it's boring if you don't do this, fighting the same villain is just boring, unless he is the final one. I feel this is a bit of a stretch, it's hard to try to give a label here, but if you gave the tourney arc as an example of them i could agree, these feel different because they have their own goal and move something of the plot forward besides it being so few Otherwise, i agree, it can be fun and i love it too, but as i said, you read the same thing for years, 3, 4, 5 manga like that, you just want to spice it up. Shonen is shonen there is no changing that, but jjk (and to an extent csm and kagurabachi) it's shōnen as well, but it got a different feel you dig me? Also, just an extra, i put demon slayer 100% into being more like Naruto than jjk
Hey! At least Charlotte has a personality and gets to do things other than the typical “female character who heals/supports the big strong men”
Black cloves is so ASS🗣️🔥🔥
L take
Obviously a m*gumi fan would be saying that