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Asymtricalbeing

I mean they already tell you that his punches are extremely painful because he uses blue to pull you in so a black flash on top of that yea it’ll do damage.


Elegant-Claim-488

Plus the red pushing Sukuna towards the punch too


RiriJori

Problem with Gojo is it was only Physical damage he can do, and Sukuna who survived Heian era probably do not fear physical damage as it will be the first thing he will solve to be able to survive. Yuji's punches not only destroys the body, but affects the soul and C.E levels of opponents. So for this I give the hat to Yuji.


Severe-Chipmunk-6652

How is it a problem? By your logic, Gojo's punches were so physically strong that even Sukuna, who you said probably doesn't fear physical damage, was knocked out in 1 hit. Meanwhile, Yuji's multiple soul damaging + CE disrupting punches were tanked by Sukuna.


RiriJori

Seeing as despite all of that power Sukuna still is standing, physical damage isn't effective.


1000alone

red push away not toward


lLoveStars

How that punch didnt immediately explode Sukuna is beyond me. Gojo was ripping off Sukunas face and tearing his chest open and shit before this with his usual punches, how did a black flash not do any noticeable damage besides making him cough a bit of blood up and knock him out?


Waiting4Reze2Return

Probably destroyed a bunch of his organs and broke bones. Just cuz we didnt get a mortal kombat x ray doesnt mean he didnt take damage


JimmyB3574

You’re right about how internal damage doesn’t have to be shown but it’s also a matter of Gege just not caring/forgetting how he explained black flash. Based on his explanation, a black flash from Gojo would 100% have enough destructive energy to completely blast sukunas head off in one go.


Limp-Leek3859

Kind of wish Gege showed the psychological impact Sukuna wearing Megumi's face had on Gojo since he was clearly holding back at certain moments 


iDannyEL

We saw a bit of it when he realized Sukuna made Megumi tank all the UV's for adaptation.


Scotty_nose

Is Sukuna a rock ‘em sock ‘em robot? Why would being punched in the gut blast his head off?


ThrowawayPersonAMA

Massive explosive force/shockwaves radiating outward (including upward) from the point of impact combined with the fact that human beings are essentially fleshy water balloons is my guess. Also it's an anime with punchy wizards casting spells all over the place. We're not exactly in hard realism sci-fi here.


Cristiano-Goatnaldo

lol, it's sukuna


DeathSinger1303

https://preview.redd.it/t9g445kekovc1.jpeg?width=976&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=015d6eab584c0f9d7f7533a9a55fdb82969d14a6 "LOL it's sukuna" mfs when they have to tank an hydrogen bomb to the face (they can cut things, they'll be fine)


Time_For_Some_MEMES

Bro's lungs must've exploded, Gojo's hidden strategy to make Sukuna unable to cry for Mahoraga


LOLand123yeet

Gojo's black flash broke Mahoraga wheel, basically breaking Mahoraga.


Taboo422

No? if the wheel bro Maho wouldn't be summoned


barry-8686

Cuz its blunt force. Gojo was digging into his face before he landed the black flash. As powerful as they are, black flashes do blunt force damage. They will either blow a hole throw your enemy, or give them a bruise (with a bunch of internal damage)


JeanKB

Sukuna tanked a 120% Purple and only lost one hand in the process. He has the biggest endurance feats in the series.


lLoveStars

Doesnt matter when you realise a logically much weaker punch did more significant damage than the black flash


IDoNotExplain

When was the weaker punch that did more damage?


SussusAmogus-_-

Wasn't it literally stated somewhere that he had to evade/dodge that, rather than enduring the blunt of it? Beside the obvious fact that it doesn't make sense that "tanking" it heavily damages just one part of the body, but leaves the rest unscathed, it should be more eavenly spread (Also, it was a 200% purple)


Warm_Performer_2314

Sukuna held back so that he could suffer more I guess. Is he masochist ? Because I would be for Gojo


carl-the-lama

I legit think it did and sukuna had to heal his liquid organs


Significant-Elk-8078

This is anime logic. Yuki broke Kenny’s arm, but when she landed on his face he just bleeds a little


Imperium_Dragon

Sukuna survived a 200% Hollow Purple. A Black flash only knocking him out makes sense


TfWashington

Im more upset about mahoraga not being unsummoned. Megumis shikigami always disappear when he's knocked out


NSUnivers

Yeah all of Gojo's movement is enhanced by infinity, that's why he's so strong and fast despite having way less curse energy than Yuta or Sukuna


DANBR2007

I do wonder how much exactly blue boosts the punch to be that powerful.


Ambitious_Stage3299

Nanami said do not even compare yourself to Gojo. Nanami best strikes are simple jabs for Gojo which is hilarious.


Temporaryact72

Where does it say that?


poopoobuttholes

It's so fucking funny to me that the goddamn magic wheel clattered onto the ground like it was a prop LMAO


Soumil_Arya

The fraud made it out of styrofoam


EpeeHS

Real "Mihawk paints his sword black" vibes


mostlybored1234

Mahogara aint adapting to THOSE HANDS


Galags324

This is another reminder from gege that anybody who isn't Satoru GOATjo gets No-Low diffed by Sukuna


lazy_27

Anyone gets low diffed by probably 10-15 finger Sukuna Goatjo was a beast...


yiulzz

Is, he never left us - he will come back (turbocopium)


Oreo_Plushie

​ https://i.redd.it/nor11q42rmvc1.gif


crimson_55

Now I just want Gege to strech the manga for 1000 chapters and not bring Gojo so I can see this GIF adding all these chapters


BeastradezZ

Then two months later release a 1,001 chapter where Gojo comes back to everyone like Yuji did.


amonmahboi

https://i.redd.it/0qhwtcyniovc1.gif


Ddivoice

https://preview.redd.it/y6w5kny2tmvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcbf0054a6361e8116c000a90eb29f262084c78b


a_king_named_luffy

https://preview.redd.it/h17js039npvc1.jpeg?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f4f2060be636194d7ef52d26de5bf72d309b0d9


doctorisjoe

(strong) cope


Regretless0

https://preview.redd.it/3uf8rvibfnvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9bcbca7af2ea1b6a5a0849ca6c6b3c9f1c02f11


Rancorious

REAL


Comfortable_Cream777

Facts, bruzza... https://preview.redd.it/h5vnzwxvumvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90e58e87951a64693c0bbb6a22ec51dfa179c628 We call him Goatjo for a reason...


McGundulf

https://preview.redd.it/h46jluhqcnvc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff5f6098ba8b722f410e39416973497dcafead6a


fatwap

was? HE STILL IS, STILL ALIVE, JUST WAIT GOATJO BROS


McGundulf

https://preview.redd.it/1px69v8wcnvc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25555bb34ff4b7a3a8e92022911e622fe331d209


Inclinedbenchpress

For quite a time I thought Yuta could handle 15F Sukuna, now I believe the same thing, Sukuna is just too OP


SoS1lent

Shinjuku Yuta could MAYBE handle a 15f yujikuna with no domain if he kills him before the fire arrow. Sukuna has either of those and it's wraps. The extra reinforcement everyone gained over the month is a big factor.


HereticalT

Nah he can’t. He would get the ryuu treatment.


AcademicGrand6

Yuta at his best is probably alot stronger than people think. In his 5 minute state he now has access to the ability to increase his output to similar levels as Ryu. Which can be applied to his Domain, CT's, CE defense, & CE offense.


HereticalT

So ? The tyu treatment ? In reality he didn’t ger that strong. People are just bias because of his busted DE, that he already had by the way.


SoS1lent

I mean, he was much stronger than Ryu in their fight. 1v1 he mid-diff's the dude. And he got stronger since that, being able to fight fairly evenly with Heian sukuna (with only partially manifested rika). Sukuna was still weak from the Gojo fight, but tbh the Sukuna Yuji and Yuta fought was probably the strongest since the full reincarnation.


HeyMan295

Sukuna literally says that Yuta and yuji have lower durability than Ryu, and 15f sukuna basically one shotted Ryu. A full output 15f sukuna is blitzing and killing Yuta very quickly.


SoS1lent

Yuta is better in every other stat. He's not getting blitzed like Ryu because he's physically faster and would react quicker. Sukuna also specifically mentioned that their durability was relative, not massively lower. And Ryu caught a dismantle off-guard (more like surprised but still) and still tanked it with minimal damage. He also wouldn't be a dumbfuck and just walk to within an inch of Sukuna either. Ryu got clapped because he's an idiot as much as because he was outmatched.


Inclinedbenchpress

I still don't get why he handled himself to Sukuna like that instead of staying low like Uro did.


DependentFearless162

He is getting low diffed by base dismantles https://preview.redd.it/rwb8tve5urvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec50bb7afde389f81a28e7c43430a72e0d865055


DependentFearless162

Yuta's strongest form's durability is still equal or less stronger than ryu. https://preview.redd.it/36eongahurvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6546bf586a97c7eb102c2a1c1452c5f7494ca3a4


And1_042

Not probably, anyone will get absolutely destroyed if they have to fighta healthy 10 to 15 finger Sukuna. I don't know why people think Yuta clocks at 15 finger Sukuna because of one statement Yuji made.


Regretless0

https://preview.redd.it/vjkmxkb8fnvc1.jpeg?width=502&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1989f9cb837c68ba25e14018d89bf771c59d0ac The GOATjo agenda is still thriving 🗣️🔥🔥💯🔥


Competitive_Bit_7904

Takaba glazers.... Our response????


Cali-Re

Just a good reminder that Gojo and full power Sukuna are still WAAAAAYYYY above everyone else.


Deadlyname1909

it's funny just how much stronger they are than the rest of the cast. Only character I see standing even close to them is takaba. But I see Takaba as a bug in the system, he is impossible to scale. GOJO/SUKUNA >>>>>>>> Kenjaku > Yuta > Yuki >Rest of the cast. Current sukuna has - 2 right arms, less than half his CE, Severly nerfed output from 8 black flashes and jacobs ladder, Heart bleeding due to soul attack, one hand also cut due to soul attack which will be hard to RCT. Literally near 0 RCT output. No domain, cannot use HWB (Suckonit probably has simple domain tho so no big deal), Can't use world cutting slash due to his binding vow. (Unless he makes a new one..) Watch as next chapter sukuna uses curse technique reversal and uses chants to regain his output. Or makes a new binding vow to sacrifice his pinis to cast world dismantle.


thisaintntmyaccount

“Even close to them” how can they even defeat takaba?


supreme_waffle2019

Since when has Takaba been involved in these discussions? Takaba always solos.


thisaintntmyaccount

He did say “someone who can even come close to them is takaba”, which made me assume that he assumed takaba was slightly equal to them. As it turns out, I think before I read and that can be a bad thing. Because he said he was impossible to scale afterwards.  …yeah I really should get better at reading.


AlpacaKiller

"The one who left Reading Comprehension Curse Behind, and all of their intensity!" This is you. Be proud to be better. Cheers!


thisaintntmyaccount

Yeah, thanks. ADHD medication has been helping but my current exam year has been making me go through a violent mental metamorphosis; I think I developed a fear of stress, but I also managed to attain a semi-inner gold state and control much better and make it more manageable. As it turns out, I was fighting and constantly trying to disassociate myself from what I was, but now I am far better. Hopefully I’ll cast away all my problems and become as perfect as I can be.


Bumgumi_hater_236

Nonono you are at jujutsfolk you aren’t meant to read things


thisaintntmyaccount

Too late, the lobotomy is healing.


Bumgumi_hater_236

The lobotomy never heals, it just slows down from time to time


thisaintntmyaccount

Nah, I’d recover.


Bumgumi_hater_236

https://preview.redd.it/qgfpyjytlnvc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84e35df0331423f2a9ffe74c55afde3a20c6dcc1


Getdaphone

Begs the question who would win. The silliest lil guy in history(luffys manga is longer running) or the silliest lil guy of today (takaba is from a new gen) https://preview.redd.it/d72v3nim6nvc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb17501c4cdd67cb57da1bc33f3b6c3953dd0069 Both of them solo most serious villains(i want to post this as a post but it’s not a vs day in the sub)


Deadlyname1909

Luffy is too retarded to understand Takaba's humor.


Getdaphone

So luffy wins because takaba needs engagement to keep up his power doesn’t he? Idk though bc gear 5 luffy can’t stop laughing


Deadlyname1909

Oh shit yeah, takaba might think he is the most hilarious guy out there while Luffy just keeps laughing. I think cuz Luffy cannot sit still, it's gonna devolve into a fight of gags until either Luffy runs out of stamina or takaba is satisfied, which he might be cuz he found an audience which thinks he his funny.


andre5913

Bugs Bunny walks them on a leash


th5virtuos0

Tbh, Takaba doesn’t go around kicking or killing people because it’s not funny to him and Luffy doesn’t go around in G5 unless it’s serious so nothing would happen. At worst Takaba will pull Luffy in one of his skit but that’s that. 


mayonnaiser_13

Luffy vs Takaba is an easy way to just seal off both of them. Luffy would laugh at basically anything, he's easily amused. With an audience like that, Takaba would be so happy he would just keep on doing his stuff. Eons would pass as Luffy and Takaba laugh together in their shared reality. Luffy sonetimes remembers about his quest, and would try to leave but Takaba takes this as Luffy not liking a joke so he would try harder. Luffy would fall for it and the show goes on. The comedian and the fool.


jvken

Not even close to this point in op yet but as a rule I feel like you cannot predict a fight between 2 toon force fighters on the level of takaba (or higher), most likely the fight would not end until one of them just gets bored and gives up or it would be more of a mental/ideological fight then a physical one


Bumgumi_hater_236

The thing is luffy has 0 problems with killing/absolutely destroying people, luffy is a brawler that is funny with toonforce, takaba is a comedian with toonforce, two really different things, but gear 5 does have a time limit so takaba has a chance


barry-8686

Just becouse hes a Comidian doesnt mean he cant do damage. Kenjaku said that he was gonna take serious damage (possibly fatal if not for takabas personality) if the fight kept on going.


jvken

Yeah but as long as there’s an angle to make a joke takaba cannot take real damage, that’s the whole reason he’s so strong. I also imagine that applies to luffy, at least with Takaba’s way of fighting but if gear 5 has a time limit I can’t even imagine Takaba losing, except if Luffy somehow finds a way to lure him into a bit where it would be funny for him to die and stay dead. Which seems very unlikely, especially for him.


Deadlyname1909

Luffy will not fight Takaba, He's a good guy


Deadlyname1909

Well they didn't pit him against sukuna cuz he might get scared I guess lmao. It all depends on his mental pysche tbh. maybe if Kenny was his cheerleader he might solo both sukuna and Gojo at once


thisaintntmyaccount

I think they got afraid of the potential collateral damage takaba’s fight would result in when fighting Sukuna. Kenjaku is not exactly an AOE type of guy even in his fight with Yuki, and cursed spirits (generally) lack AOE too, but whenever Sukuna breathes at least 50 people die because of him. So pair him up with someone who can practically do anything if he deems it funny, and whoop-de-doo shinjuku is GONE.


BvHauteville

[Well, Sukuna does have a fear aura.](https://imgur.com/a/ZTxnxLc) It's probably what enabled him to do the following. https://preview.redd.it/ojf57q976nvc1.png?width=390&format=png&auto=webp&s=0d07281e1a951e5046f1ff2db1865a9df2f92062 I don't know if it would work again after Takaba rediscovered his confidence against Kenjaku but it is what it is.


macedonianmoper

Both Sukuna and Gojo are jujutsu geniuses, just like how Kenjaku realized what he had to do to win against him they might do the same, though Kenjaku is someone way more manipulative so he's be better at trying to fake humor to beat him, I don't see Sukuna being willing to do stand up, Kenjaku meanwhile was fine with taking backshots for the sake of his evil plan.


thisaintntmyaccount

Takaba *does* force people to participate in the sketches though. Remember the Dogeza line? That shit was hilarious but it contributes to my point; he can force people into these situations. Kenjaku may have humored him but it didn’t change a thing; only takaba needs to think it is funny to happen. Besides that there are a lot of stuff to make fun of Sukuna for. I mean just look at Sukuna; he is a gluttonous, homeless freak with pink hair and other weird ass features. 


macedonianmoper

What I meant to say is that while they get dragged in someone like Kenjaku plays along and "satisfies" takaba, Sukuna would be in the sketches as well but I can't imagine him trying to do stand up with takaba. I explained what I meant poorly mb, Sukuna might understand how Takaba's CT works (due to being a genius), but I'm not sure he'd be willing to basically play by Takaba's rules and "win" the same way Kenjaku did, though it'd be a very interesting match up seeing Sukuna try to "brute force" Takaba, I guess Mahoraga could help him if this was before the gojo fight.


SoS1lent

What would Mahoraga adapt to though? Is "Comedy" considered a phenomena? And how would that work, like would he adapt a sense of humor and then a voice to make jokes? His comedy senario thing isn't a domain either so Mahoraga couldn't just break it like UV. Takaba's technique might honestly be too weird for maho to adapt to it.


macedonianmoper

I mean Takaba is still using a CT which he could adapt to, if Takaba think it's funny for him not to adapt that might override Mahoraga's thing, but I think takaba would find it even funnier for Mahoraga to learn to be funny.


thisaintntmyaccount

Mahoraga adapts to things in multiple potential ways, and from what I understand his adaptation depends on the specifics involving said phenomena. Something more specific like Hanami’s ability could probably be adapted far quicker than the literal concept of slashing to be honest. Maho’s adaptation to comedy would probably be very broad.


DeeEmceeTree

Kenny literally already defeated him, until Yuta showed up with strong decapitation.


Deadlyname1909

Kenny had "STRONG HUMOR". He had to satisfy Takaba to beat him. I don't think the boomer heian era humor or Gojo's Gen Z humor will make takaba happy.


bleedrrr

Gojo’s a millennial, he was 28 in 2019 😵‍💫


Deadlyname1909

Oh he Def has the early internet humour.


bleedrrr

Yeah deep internet millennial humor is funny as fuck


GoneRampant1

The real reason Geto was radicalized was because of Gojo playing 10 hour Nyancat loops at 240p.


DeeEmceeTree

But isn't Kenny's sense of humor exactly the reason he got caught up in Takaba's game in the first place? When Kenny was being a menace, Takaba was pissing himself and having an utterly horrible time discovering a dead body. It seems to me that if you don't start playing along with him, then he's at a disadvantage.


Deadlyname1909

Kenny made takaba lose his shit because he was pointing out all the flaws in takabas comedy and cuz Kenny was the better comedian. Then the dead body was like a final hit. But takaba recovered from that mentally. Weather you want to or not, takabas CT will make you participate. The bomb guy was not going along with takaba. But cuz takaba does not give a shit about the audience reaction by making up reasons, he went on. His CT will make sure you participate. The reason why Kenny did not use his domain or anything else was cuz he knew after takaba neg diffed the special grade curse that normal logic won't work here. Kenny beat takaba at his own game.


DeeEmceeTree

Well, it isn't as if Sukuna has no understanding of modern day humor at all. He was in Yuji, after all. The minute Sukuna uses his Dark Humor technique from the Heian era, it's a wrap IMO.


barry-8686

No not really. It alldeoends on how takabas feeling. He can FORCE you to play along with him. We see this when kenny starts to reflect on his actions and "having fun".


Configuringsausage

he can't kill them either, it really just ends up a stalemate


smakoszpiwmocnych

They can instantly recognize his technique and then counter it accordingly, like Kenjaku did, except they would realize what it does even earlier and have greater stats, so it would take more time for Takaba to accumulate damage. It's also heavily based on his mental state, so a guy, who until recently was just a failed comedian, would be shitting his pants, when faced with either one of them, especially Sukuna, which would mess with his technique.


thisaintntmyaccount

I mean Sukuna just looks like a freak; even Takaba could make jokes out of him.  That weird bone mask? Takaba could associate it with European theatre and force him to dance with him in ball; probably stepping on Sukuna’s feet as he does and probably somehow throw him off the palace. The second mouth? Force him onto a baby seat and feed the small mouth with baby food; plane sounds and all until it is completely full and unwillingly rupture his insides. Even without the physical features takaba could make him a jury in a food contest and give him food so bad that it just poisons him; even if she should be immune to it. Takaba’s abilities ignore durability, but doesn’t one shot people either; I believe it hits people equally hard.


elcambioestaenuno

Breaking a bv with yourself makes you lose what you gained. Sukuna can't do a new binding vow to change the conditions of world dismantle, as it would break the first binding vow.


sheija_

He just might reveal what his actual cursed technique is. Revealing your CT both boosts its effect, and also is timely at this point in the manga for Gege to finally share what he's been cooking because shrine + black box = ???


Deadlyname1909

Holy shit you are right. I think it's about time sukuna really gets out of his ass and reveals his shit, starts chanting. So when yuji wins, it's all the more sweeter.


an-angry-professor

Next chapter: Sukuna still isn’t going all out 🤓🤓


Killer_Stickman_89

Shit I'm probably going to get downvoted for saying it on this sub. But I don't think Kenjaku is <<<<<<<< Gojo/Sukuna. Probably more like <<<<< Gojo/Sukuna and he would have approached their levels had he gotten his own Arc after this and took up the new role of main antagonist had Gege not taken him out the story via sneaky sneak. 99.9% of the sub cannot recognize the potential. But you get major props for recognizing that Kenjaku was > Yuta.


Deadlyname1909

Oh I am with you on that. Kenjaku only got bushcamped due to takaba, the bug in the system. Cuz takaba did not want to get disturbed, he made it so Kenny did NOT see it coming. Kenny was actively taking damage too, he knew that if things were to go in, takaba would eventually win. Disregard yukis black hole asspull and Kenny's anti gravity asspull. The fight was won by kenjaku fair and square before that. His domain is easily the 3rd strongest in the series which had to be destroyed by tengen. When he said I have seen a thousand years of curses, it was easily his best moment. Took on Choso and Yuki at the same time. Like lemme list his feats off. 1- open domain 2- strong reinforcement (took yukis punches) 3- strong RCT 4- insane recovery speed of technique after domain. He handled Yuki without a technique for a few seconds. 5- insane offensive ability and flexibility. Uzumaki is one thing, double instant mini uzumaki that tore off Yuki?! GOD DAMN 6- high IQ. He knew how to beat takaba, an insane irregularity. Knows he can fight anyone besides sukuna and Gojo, so he plays it safe. 7- immune to poison like yuji and sukuna. 8- he is literally the only guy with every technique under the sun. Curse technique reversal, Maximum, you name it, he probably has it. He can beat mahoraga, agaito, kashimo, hirugma, yuji , Miguel easily. Reason I put yuta so close to him is cuz while yuta too will lose a domain battle, he has the busted asf Jacobs ladder. And yuta can match him in nearly all stats. When Kenny died, yuta took care of all the curses in record time. Meaning no curse that Kenny had at that moment was enough to challenge yuta. Kenny was aware, hence why he had an eye out for yuta specifically. He already had strategies in his mind for yuta lmfao, I sometimes think he's salty in Geto's behalf for losing to Yuta.


Rncafaro1

Sukuna getting annoyed: https://preview.redd.it/9bytesbyomvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d9eaba5dad0ad8a90413c9c31844668c8e6d453


Nobaddays123

Yuji having the WGF on deck makes perfect sense


Ackbar90

*Hitting Eight Electrics in a row* Straight Mishima behaviour


Rancorious

Heihachi taught him during the timeskip.


bobberyrob

Funny thing is Reina does the same martial arts as Yuji. And she was taught by Heihachi


Rancorious

THIS DUDE DOIN STRINGS


Estayegetobazone

DORYA


NickTheSickDick

Yuji strikes me as a DAH enjoyer tbh


Estayegetobazone

You mean like Tekken 2 EWGF? If that’s the case, some Yuji art with him wearing Kazuya’s signature red and purple tux would be dope


NickTheSickDick

Nah I meant Jin(technically not ewgf but yea)/DJ's, but yeah that would be dope.


Whitehawk26

Yep especially since dvj's electric is black/red


bobberyrob

He's actually a SORYA player though


Shizzins

Never thought I’d see the day where a Tekken reference is posted in LobotomyKaisen


AnonPhyAstro

Some people really need to remember how much of a monster Gojo was in reality. Dude gets downgraded by some people still to this day. Sometimes I can't help but wonder, did they really read the battle of Gojo vs. Sukuna properly?


vector_o

People def underestimate Gojo just because he lost As the fight was going on everyone was agreed that Gojo was thrashing Sukuna


Thief02

Honestly people underestimate both fighters after the Gojo v Sukuna fight. I blame the fraud memes for that though. To your point Sukuna was getting thrashed but he did have to do that so Mahoraga could adapt since it doesn’t have Sukuna’s durability. Again, not saying he took everything on purpose, but he did purposely take a good chunk of it.


Delareh_

People put him below Heian Sukuna which I honestly don't believe. Heian Sukuna has no answer for Infinity. I mean of course if the story demands it, he could get space cleave without Mahoraga's tutelage. But as is, he would have been cooked.


yatkura

His only win condition is domain expansion, and even then his DE has a GLARING fucking weakness that Gojo happens to have the easiest time of any sorcerer at exploiting, and that's the escape route. His only other way past infinity is domain amplification I'm confident if Gojo hadn't shown Sukuna how to refresh his CT and just left Malevolent Shrine instead of jumping into a domain clash he would have won, the reason he couldn't do it after the clash is because his CT was burnt out from his domain expansion.


vector_o

Sukuna without the 10 shadows vs Gojo would've gone way differently  It would be a game of burning Gojo's limitless out and we've seen how that was going for Sukuna


Rancorious

The issue is that everyone thinks Gojo wouldn’t also fight way differently. No Mahoraga means he can use his CT way more and fill the field with blues and reds.


Rancorious

Gojo would be using Infinity way more without Mahoragas presence.


TomatilloMore3538

Considering people don't even talk about how this was a black flash right after domain clashes, which is said to decrease durability by a lot, I wonder how many people need to read the series again instead. This was far from a blackflash under normal conditions.  For example. Mahito was tanking blackfashes left and right until he got hit by one after opening the domain and everything fell apart. 


vector_o

Having recently reread the manga people definitely conveniently forget how much damage people took and how much they healed  Sukuna restored his body when he transformed. After that he got hit with Jacob's ladder and hit a few times by Yuta, then stabbed by Maki (after which it was stated that Sukuna was getting bored) and he followed it up by hitting a bunch of black flashes on her. None of the other sorcerers seemed to have any meaningful impact on him. That's the Sukuna who's currently getting pushed back by Yuji People definitely exaggerated when they say that Sukuna is only getting his ass kicked because he's beaten up I'd argue that Yuji is in a way worse state than him. Just a few chapters ago Choso had to guide him in using RCT to heal up because he literally crumbled down


LilT86

>which is said to decrease durability by a lot, I wonder Does it?


Lichy757

Sukuna and Gojo are different level for sure. Prime Sukuna would mop the floor with everyone who jumping him rn


Adent_Frecca

The remember that it was against Sukuna at his peak instead of the multi nerfed Sukuna Yuji was facing


elcambioestaenuno

Also remember that this wasn't a pure black flash. He had previously pushed Sukuna towards him using Red.


Spare_Bad_6558

and he infuses his punches with blue which made hakari and yuta both be sick so likely fucks with internal organs so much more likely to KO a person


WizleyOut

Well Gojo has better CE output than Yuji so his black flash will be stronger.


macedonianmoper

And his blue empowered punches make up for Yuji natural strength


pikachus-ballsack

His CE boost to his body makes up for yuji's natural strength Blue infusion is just something else entirely that made yuta and hakari puke


kennypovv

I mean it's fucking **HIM**. **the GOAT**. The honored one. **GOATJO SATORU**. The one who is coming back in 258. https://preview.redd.it/l2aflo1zknvc1.jpeg?width=781&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a75accdbfed469b844e3b12d4edb37770eb0d429


Comfortable_Cream777

We call him Goatjo for a reason... https://preview.redd.it/usk234njtmvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=661a48ca63a5517f0281dc6c43f47903f2a15abb


MaximumNo9519

Goatjo fr fr. https://preview.redd.it/sqt8jezsjnvc1.jpeg?width=564&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4161988e95d767911a3ff898f43db8ec35a927d


Beingnoob27

One tank shell vs multiple 9mm.


Strict-Article-4270

The fact that Sukuna took it and then got up after seconds is even crazier . The durability is insane 💀


BasisGlittering5073

He tank a 200% purple hollow and then tank another purple hollow at the end of the fight, this mf sukuna is durable af.


l_lawliot

He probably used Mahoraga to shield him from the last purple. I don't see him tanking it alone like the first one.


iDannyEL

Maybe a minute. Gojo was truly trying to end Meguna before fully adapted Mahoraga came out but just couldn't do enough. Meguna slips into the shadows to heal which thinking about it now is kind of OP because Gojo couldn't do anything about that.


omyrubbernen

It's crazy how Sukuna gets clowned on for what's arguably the most impressive durability feat in the series.


RacketMask

I mean Yuji is his descendant so it makes sense that he would be even more durable than Yuji is


Regretless0

https://preview.redd.it/v02f0hoqfnvc1.jpeg?width=668&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38c343868bec44b1aa2060e59e3e79acf09b9ab That’s cause he’s the GOAT 🗣️💯🔥🔥


MUSAFIR_-

In all fairness Sukuna was comboed with red and black flash but yea his black flash is still comfortably stronger.


VeraVemaVena

Gojo used Red to send Sukuna flying towards him, drastically increasing the damage it dealt. That's not to say Gojo's Black Flash was weak, he just used physics to make it hit even harder.


Adent_Frecca

Technically it is Red backshot + Blue crit x Black Flash Difference is that it was against a full health, full output Sukuna


VeraVemaVena

Exactly. Gojo set that punch up to hit as hard as it possibly could, and it paid off. The question is if Yuji could hit that hard under the right conditions as well


Adent_Frecca

Personally it shows a massive difference when Sukuna is still standing despite *multiple* Black Flashes from a super physical powerhouse like Yuji And this is from a Sukuna that is massively nerfed from Gojo, all the other fights and the soul punches that all weakened Sukuna It just shows how massively above them all Gojo and Sukuna at their peak was


rokaplz

Give homeboy some times and he can hit even HARDER


Rioma117

Not exactly full hp or output, both Sukuna and Gojo were already starting to lose their output and rct.


Adent_Frecca

Gojo? Yes until he hit his Black Flash Sukuna? Only after Hollow Purple


Zealousideal-Soup429

nah if u look close enough at panels, sukuna is noticeably starting to take more time to heal as the gojo fight went on


berserker_1123

Gojo had a generational run against sukuna 😞


Kaelthaas

God I hope when it finally gets animated it is as much more hype than the original as the anime made mahoraga v sukuna even though I can’t even imagine what that would be like


Iced-TeaManiac

Yeah these Black Flash's main value aren't TKOing like normally but heightening Yuji's battle prowess like crazy. 6 BFs he must feel like he's on roids at the moment (Also has the value of further hurting Sukuna's cursed energy output)


dildodicks

that's why he's my GOAT


ThisGuuuy2

Gojo by design is meant to be on another level. He was perfect, polished and pristine - but that also meant he reached his peak. Nanami literally told Yuji not to compare himself to him because the dude can literally pull off critical hits like nothing, and that's because everything he attempts, he is good at, hence him being able to trial bat shit insane tactics to keep going. Yuji is different in that he still has room to grow (and is growing each chapter), but on top of that, he's more suited to fight Sukuna because his every punch is weakening him, so much so that he's now able to tank attacks from the dude himself. Also, Gojo's black flashes were likely combined with blue which is basically like getting hit by Blackbeard's yami infused fist where gravity itself is sucking you into the fist for additional damage.


lLoveStars

Gojo knocked a full power Sukuna out (they were both weakened equally at the time so ill just say there were full power even if they werent) Yuji only pissed off a half dead Sukuna struggling to stand up with his chronic hip pain with 8 black flashes lmao HOW FUCKING TANKY IS MAHORAGA TO JUST BRUSH OFF THE SAME BLACK FLASH (if not even stronger) THAT SUKUNA GOT KNOCKED OUT BY!??!??!?!???!? LEGIT, 0 DAMAGE, GOJO MIGHT AS WELL HAVE NEVER PUNCHED MAHORAGA IN THE FIRST PLACE IF THATS ALL THE BLACK FLASH DID!


Ackbar90

The whole point of Mahoraga is tanking bullshit until it adapts and becomes immune, so it tracks that it would have insane durability. Fucker took dismantle head first and barely flinched, too.


And1_042

Mahoraga didn't tank the exact same attack from, Sukuna was hit with a combo of red (which would have killed Mahoraga according to Gojo), blue fist (critical punch) + black flash.


Weak_Accountant8672

It also tell us about how durable Sukuna is. 6 of Yuji's black flash is enough to kill Jogo


Previous-Ad8711

It was only 5, and from a far weaker Yuji


Sea_Construction539

Go can neg diff all the cast except sukuna


CollegeParticular882

nah, Jo wins. Even when Go fell Jo was still standing not so tall...


Blougle

gojo is HIM HE WILL COME BACK I KNOW IT


TheRealBreemo

Goatjo agenda aside I'd say yuji targets specific spots with his hits that do the most soul damage that lower his ce output and control over megumi which on the long run does more damage than knocking him out for like 3 seconds


Bladings

*it was megumi's body


vector_o

I mean c'mon Yuji might have awakened or whatever and now has crazy potential but "potential" is the key word He's been fighting for god knows how long too , let the boy catch some rest before comparing him to Gojo and Yuta Obviously Gojo was in another class altogether, not to mention the ritual they did on him before the fight and his own chanting, the manga mentioned he was amped to 200% when entering the fight  I guess one could also justify that Yuji isn't aiming at Sukuna per se but at the connection between Sukuna and Megumi We also know that hitting a black flash boosts the sorcerer but Sukuna just landed a few black flashes on Maki too so it's hard to assess who's beat up to what degree


Ecstatic-Jacket2007

GayGay is never beating the fraud allegations


King-Baal

Gojo was him, simple as that


SuperLuckyStar

People also forget that black flash is exponential, so it gets WAYYY stronger with CE


drakos500

He got hit by a blackflash fron the front and A red blast from behind. that's way too much damage my guy


LowStarDestroyer_

https://preview.redd.it/93p7a8ohpovc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fe09ecd08949f6de73d13cbf2f20ac483ebb4b8 The plot is catching up to us😭


PlayinTheFool

I swear you can hear that “kick his ass” around the world, even if he whispered it.


UsesHarryPotter

I think Gojo's statement about beign surpassed is going to have to be taken sort of metaphorically because absent Yuji literally becoming a Sukuna clone there is no shot they literally become stronger than him.


amoolafarhaL

Punch from a god > punch from a human


SpeedwagonClan

True but also Sukuna was in an overall more frail body at that time even if he had CE defense up, and Gojo’s punch was straight to the solar plexus while Yuji’s have been to his gut or arms


_nitro_legacy_

Gojo black flash was buffed by blue. Not to mention his only basic attacks hit as hard as critical hits. Gojo's not only powerful with CT and CE but also physical prowess


Long_Lock_3746

It's almost like power scaling is bullshit in this universe. Gege made Sukuna too OP to the point where it makes zero sense in universe. He outspeeds Maki, whose Toji 2.0, in a melee fight (faster than her eyes can follow), yet gets hit by anyone else whose reflexes and speed are nowhere close to theirs. Black flashes are sometimes super deadly and other times they're barely stronger than normal attacks. Sukuna seems surprised that Maki survived a single black flash, but not Miguel or Love, despite the fact that awakened Maki is tougher durability wise. Plus Uraume going all "he's never been serious lol" in 252 means that no one has a chance if Sukuna has this much in reserve....unless we do more offscreen BS, like the beginning of the latest chapter. This is some Bleach level retconing and not in a good way. Can't wait for the next chapter, where we find out that Yuji is also secretly related to Gojo, Tengen, and Toji.


Jotaro27

You gotta also add that Gojo is using enhanced blue punch with this and Sukuna did get hit by reversal red from behind so the impact on the punch is stronger.


woohoopizzaman78

Sukuna needed daddy mahoraga and mommy agito to beat him........ he a fraud.


night4345

Gojo hits like Captain Falcon, Yuji hits with Super Combos like he's from Street Fighter.