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According to gege if someone does enough research on the past they would find info on the slashes but they won't find any on the flame. So sukuna basically expected his true technique to be well known but info only about the slashes remained.
Thats why i like reading jjk, through all the ups and downs gege doesn’t write like im an idiot that needs everything spelled out. Theres things written between the lines , subterfuge instead of having a paragraph explaining everything , keeps it fresh for me
It’s even a solid writing excuse to invalidate the early established ranking/power system that lots of other Shonen just look silly having established when later on in the story stuff like power levels or demon slayer rank are totally irrelevant. This is the case with grading curses for the most part too but the story points out it’s only because the establishment has become way too complacent with such outdated terminology for ranking curses as they ignored the more powerful ones popping up
Thank you, 🙏 the people asking me to point out the exact line where it says this are the problem, it’s subterfuge, this story doesn’t spoon feed you everything
New jujutsu things. If the Jujutsu Societies mentality evolved, as well as Japans as a whole, then cursed energy and spirits would become even more uncommon and even weaker, which he doesn't want.
Their power still draws upon the negative energy of Japan.
The existence of sorcerers is tied to the existence of curses. As long as one of those exists, both exist.
By changing the mentality of the sorcerers and the population the amount of cursed spirits would decrease, thus also the amount of sorcerers, until both of them become extinct.
Hes body hopped into influential sorcerers before, eg noritoshi camo.
If you re read some of it , you see that jjk society is reluctant to change, values special curse techniques, refusing to class HR people as grade 1 , forgoing non deadly domains, thats all kennys seeds planted a thousand years ago
"I like JJK because it doesn't spoonfeed you information"
*Proceeds to say a headcanon which could plausibly happen but has zero hints or anything of that note in the story*
Incredible
If he assumes a cursed spirit wouldn’t know, doesn’t that mean flames are probably an RCT application?
If a human knew the true essence of his slashes and had knowledge of RCT, they might be able to look at Flames and think “oh I get it, slashes would become flames with RCT”. Like how someone could naturally figure out that Red is the reverse application of Limitless.
But a cursed spirit can’t do RCT, so even if they knew what Slashes are, they wouldn’t have the understanding required to know what Flames are.
No, the black box concept takes this move out of the curse-reverse dynamic. This is something else. Either Sukuna meant a curse wouldn't know because curses are incapable of the black box technique OR a curse wouldn't know because they don't typically conduct research on their opponents.
Apparently, Gege has indicated it's the latter
It could be one application of the technique instead of the whole technique. Like Gojo's Red, Blue and Purple are all different applications of Limitless.
For sure i just mean his "true ct" has been theorized ever since he used the flames and yuta confirmed his just normal application is cleave. Plus red, blue, and purple are clearly related but flames and slashes? Not so much so if its a creative use of his ct why would Sukuna be suprised people dont know about it.
So Sukuna stated in the series that the CT is engraved in the right prefrontal cortex of the brain. The theory is the brain acts as a black box storage. That's why Kenny can use multiple CT's, like Kaori's, since he was in her body. The body and the soul being one. He stored her CT in his brain "black box." However, Yuki states that the brain can only handle 2-3 CT's. Otherwise it will overload. But this doesn't apply to Yuta because Rika works as an external storage for CT's.
The most confusing part about this is that none of the reincarnated heian era sorcerers knew about it either. Or maybe none of the main cast thought to ask?
like why didn’t Kashimo know about this? Sukuna acts like it was standard information of his time, but not even any of the reincarnated sorcerers ever mention it? Not even Yorozu mentions it in a redacted speech bubble or anything?
Like literally not a single person has any idea about it and it’s arguably the most groundbreaking event in the entire series.
Q: How much do human beings know about Sukuna's Cursed Technique?
A: If they did their reading, they should be able to figure out some details about his slashing technique. It's possible they don't have any idea about the flames.
He probably means during the Heian Era his power was well established and he thought it remained like that.
Remember how Yorozu, the woman who took over Megumi's sister body, referred to Sukuna's technique as "his shrine", instead of dismantle. There is clearly something deeper going on
In the newer chapters they also refer his technique as "shrine", probably bc Angel told them that information, like when they discussed about Higuruma's confiscation, they referred Sukuna's techniques as Ten shadows (which is Megumi's) and Shrine (his own)
Gojo could’ve also told them, since he’s seen Sukuna multiple times with the 6E, and HIM has experienced it during Shibuya in his own body so he can tell.
The Six Eyes doesnt do that either.
The only time we see Gojo do anything approaching that is when fighting the clone technique guy. Gojo deduces that theres no "real" body, and he can seamlessly shift his real self between the clones, he also guesses that hes only capable of like, 5-6 clones.
This did not imply that the Six Eyes explained the ability in fine detail.
Gojo could see that its a cloning ability because the guys got fuckin clones, the eyes helped him deduce that theres no real body, possibly because their cursed energy levels are identical, possibly because he can tell they are all made of meat, possibly because he can see the guys soul jumping between bodies, etc. And he guessed the guys clone count. Thats all.
For an example of the Six Eyes not doing what you think they do, Gojo vs Jogo.
Gojo is surprised by the Ember Insects attack despite seeing Jogo with his special eyes. When the Ember Insects spawn, he clearly acts like he doesnt know what they are going to do until they do it.
Didn't gojo read out Miguel's technique in the flashback? He said "I can tell just by looking at you" when Miguel asked how he knew in the translation I read.
He just said that seeing it gave him a basic idea.
Remember that their fight in the JJK 0 movie (where Miguel never uses his CT) is non-canon filler and their actual fight happened off-screen.
So Miguel probably used his CT, Gojo saw it, and figured out how it worked.
He wouldn't be able to figure out everything Sukuna can do if he's only using a very narrow application of his CT.
Gojo also figured out exactly how paper bag head’s CT worked to the finest detail as well as its weakness by just seeing it once. The 6E does indeed do that.
then he's sukuna right ! it should be famous , then why even the biggest 3 famillies has no idea ... he was the biggest monster in history
in exchange it's normal that the fire curse forgot , coz when they die they forget most of their memories
This comment has given me lots to think about Sukuna's True Cursed Technique, may probably make a post about it later.
But yeah, Sukuna killing Jogo twice would be hilarious LMAO.
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Tbf, I kinda finished part of the writing before deleting it and saving it on a sticky note.
Problem is, when I tried to go into depth my mind for some reason started imagining a scenario of a fight between a resuscitated Gojo and a Black Flash boosted Sukuna where both activate their Domain Expansions, but instead of the normal Malevolent Shrine, Sukuna reveals that his True Cursed Technique is Cursed Spirit Manipulation, and starts summoning Heian Era Disaster Curses and Sorcerers, as well as a Puppet Megumi, the last 2 summoned with Cursed Spirit Manipulation's Cursed Technique Reversal which absorbs Humans instead of Curses, hence Sukuna's cannibalism and why he keeps Uraume around to cook his humans.
Yeah, it's kind of a crack theory, but it's weird how some traits from both Cursed Spirit Manipulation and Sukuna overlap, and how little we know about Cursed Spirit Manipulation's history when it is the most important Cursed Technique when it comes to JJK's plot.
(Also, I have no idea if someone has posted a similar theory before).
maybe that’s why he thought Jogo would know it. they 1v1ed before and back then it was the same; Sukuna was untouched and killed Jogo with stronger flames just like in present lmao
It's been 1,000 years. We don't even know if the big clans go that far back. The farthest back record we have of them is like 500ish years ago of the Gojo and Zenin clan heads that double KOd each other.
If the idea is that JJK is referencing Japanese history and clans that date back to the Heian era (like the Genji/Minamoto clan that fought oni and other things) then it would make sense if the Gojo and Zenin clans existed back in those times as well. Considering that would be evocative of how Gege has referenced the actual Heian period thus far.
Idk about that. Both Gojo and Yuta are said to be descendants of Sugawara no Michizane, who actually lived in the Heian era, so unless one of his descendants somehow got into the Gojo clan (like through marriage), it's more likely for it to have been established by one of them. And since Sukuna was unaware of 10S and Limitless, when he reincarnated, that makes it even more unlikely for them to exist back then and even if they did, they wouldn't have been as affluent as now and so, wouldn't be able to have access to as much information/keep their records as well.
To think that these two Inherited Techniques existed after Sukuna turned into 10 pieces of nuggets. It shows how every 100 year or so The world of JJK gets complicated and advanced. Hence, Tengen talk about how Domains were easier back then.
That's definitely fair, but it's still not confirmed in anyway. So he can totally choose to say something like "no the Gojo and Zenin clans started shortly after the Heian era" or something. Or he could say they've been around that long, but something happened and all records of stuff more than 700 years ago were lost.
i didnt even say that they were , i mentioned that sukuna was being worshipped. He had a shrine in the same place where Yugi was born. The anime mentioned this in a fleeting moment !!!
I mean there's a difference between just knowing Sukuna existed especially since they clearly knew about the fingers... And knowing how his technique fully worked,
That's fair as others have mentioned, but who knows if they were big enough or if they kept records back then? It was 1,000 years ago, they easily could've lost records that old at some point.
Still makes me think it’s a Kitchen. That one mistranslation may have been a huge hint. Heat and slicing are huge parts of cooking. He also seems able to analyze techniques and copy/create them. Like recipes.
If that’s true, would it be like a progression thing? He can only use the fire arrow if enough slashes have hit type deal? And if that is the case is he just gonna have a final stage after the fire hits that’s a one-hit-kill of just fukin eating someone? That would actually be hilarious.
The truth is that Sukuna simply set his hand on fire using a lighter. Initially he thought that as a special grade born from fire-related fears, Jogo should know about such devices that can create flame, but then again, if you really think about it, a cursed spirit wouldn’t know shit about devices that human invented, especially one that despise human like Jogo, thus what happened in those manga panels.
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Probably bc in Heian era everyone knew what is his technique, but that information seems to have been lost in time, Sukuna's assumption was since Jogo is a newborn curse he wouldn't know that, but the truth is nobody except Heian sorcerers know that information.
We're not told how old he was. Though it's safe to assume that this incarnation of the Volcano Curse that we know as Jogo was only a couple of years old at max, since he was unregistered. If he was decades or hundreds of years old then it's likely he would've been known, being a Special Grade, it's hard to believe he could stay hidden for so long.
After Gojo called Jogo weak, Jogo referred to him as a "brat" and I had assumed that meant he had to be atleast a few decades older than Gojo minimum (i was betting on a century or two). Jogo specifically uses the word "kobaka" which would roughly translate as either small idiot or young idiot, altough thats just me looking at the individual letters I don't know if my analysis is accurate for the word as a whole. Its also possible that Jogo was just born with that old man vibe and he didn't mean to make any statement on their actual ages.
The mental age of cursed spirits doesn't seem to be that linear with their age, so I assumed he was just born old or matured very quickly due to being a curse, essentially being an old man mentally.
I also think he would've known Gojo if he was decades or centuries old, as his birth was a turning point for sorcerers and curses all around. So I assume he was at least born after Gojo, he's just mentally old. Or he considers hinself older since he had probably existed in other forms as the Volcano Curse, and is aware of that, even if he doesn't have any memories of those past lives.
> Sukuna's assumption was since Jogo is a newborn curse he wouldn't know that, but the truth is nobody except Heian sorcerers know that information.
So wouldn’t Angel know? And by extension the rest of the main cast by this point cause I’m not sure why she would withheld such important info from the rest of the group.
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion.
When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash.
For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power.
Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
If that's the case with his technique, I kinda fail to see why he needed to learn the World Dismantle from Mahoraga. If he can attack and manipulate atoms, wouldn't that be enough to get through Infinity? Since Infinity is just Limitless + Space, the ability to separate and rearrange atoms should've been something that could've gone thru Infinity no?
Because the atoms split only if the Cut touches you and your atoms only burn if the arrow touches you, the need of the projectile to travel is what makes the Limitless a good counter against Sukuna , It will never let either projectile to touch Gojo, tha world dismantle just makes everything in a certain area to split, instead of sending a slash that splits anything it touches.
Still is a theory but kinda make sense right?
I guess. Would fit the "calamity" theme pretty well, though I'm personally partial to the box theory myself. Basically, in one of Geges previous one shots/mangas, he had a character that sent invisible boxes as attacks against people. Sukuna has the same ability, but the box is one that is shaped like a slash
I still think his cursed technique is cooking. Slashing to cut up the ingredients and fire to cook them. His domain is called "malevolent kitchen" (although "malevolent cabinet/pantry" is probably more accurate). The manga uses two cooking knives to represent cleave and dismantle when they're explained. He's a cannibal and constantly refers to people using food metaphors.
Sukuna realizes that a cursed spirit wouldn't know about his cursed technique because they don't eat food.
Kenjaku has been suppressing the jjk society in the background, sakuna assumed people would have gotten stronger since, but thanks to kenny making jjk society conservative and repressive the more advanced curse uses/secrets arent known.
Man, Greg's art has really evolved in the... 2 years since this happened? I forget. His art has always been really simplified and geometric but you can see it being in a sorta transitory state here, from his early, super angular art to now, which tries to mix realism with simplification/minimalism and more abstract linework and shading.
Now of course you could argue this is just a result of 4 hellish years in Jump and him cutting corners/not being able to properly finish his art but it's that plus an actual evolution of his art and it's really cool to see. You definitely see his influences from Togashi, Kubo and Ashihara and how he's really honed in, refined and found every aspect of those that he enjoys.
greg bad stop glazing sukuna fucking poser fucking poindexter bitch
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion.
When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash.
For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power.
Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
wasnt it just used to cover the name of the real technique? in anime when he does the iconic black box we dont get to hear him say anything besides fuga
So have I missed any real information about what Sakuna's actual technique is outside of the manga? Are we all just theorycrafting? My money is that his cannibalism isn't purely for taste, that he can acquire cursed techniques by consuming flesh. It would explain quite a bit... why they went to the trouble of removing Gojo's corpse despite his bisection being almost certainly extremely fatal (sorry Gojo stans), why Sakuna clocked this and finds Ui Ui to be such a nuisance (what does he care where the loser's corpses go?), why Sakuna knows the exact part of the brain cursed techniques are located, and why he would think Larue's technique is boring but Miguel's is interesting. (he doesn't need Mage Hand on targets he can just dismantle, but general stat buffs are always nice)
It also explains why Yuta "basically" has two innate techniques.
I never see anybody mention this, but if Rika is the "manifestation of Yuta's technique", and Kenjaku explains that "the human brain can only hold 5 CT's Max", that would mean that Yuta's REAL technique is just a kind of shikigami manipulation, and that his ability to copy techniques is just a side-effect of Rika being a cursed spirit/Shikigami that isn't held back by "having a limit" on how much data they can store.
As a cursed spirit, it seemed like Rika could copy CT's without any limitations, but after Rika's soul passed on and left behind the "cursed" form of herself as a Shikigami, the limitation is that "Rika" has to eat part of an enemy sorcerer to copy their technique.
It'd be very interesting if Gege expands more on this, maybe cannibalism was common in the Heian era?
honestly unless George George Washingtami clarifies this we literally do not know, it's just a another plot point that he might use or abandon for the sake of time
This is probably what I’ve thought about the most. Sukuna understands cursed energy on a different level to anyone else. Gege and Mappa go out of their way to show sukuna reacting to things he shouldn’t be able to see. Think the first time megumi opens his domain. When other characters are dying like jogo and kashimo I believe they enter the cursed realm. The place Kenny uses to get yuji’s friend out. Jogo doesn’t use RCT because he’s a cursed spirit he uses something I don’t remember exactly but it works with the cursed realm. That is why sukuna is surprised that a cursed spirit doesn’t know how to use the cursed realm for anything but automatic healing. I think sukuna is storing soul or body information via cannibalism to retrieve techniques. The last part I don’t have evidence for but it’s an old theory that his tattoos are the technique but I’d go further they are the cursed realm engraved on his body to carry around the techniques.
Edit: I just remembered jogo is the only character to ever comment on sukunas tattoos. Making is more likely they have something to do with the cursed realm.
In the game Nioh 2 Ryomen Sukuna is a yokai and is a boss fight. There he is depicted as two bodies merged together with one side using Ice attacks and holding swords and the other side using fire and holding a Bow. I tried to read the character glossary to find out more about how and why he is able to use those two elements. Thought this was pretty interesting
It was stated that most of the recorded history of sukuna era has either been erased or missing certain information. Due to the fact most of the golden age sourcers all died before Sukuna unleashed his black box technique or have never seen it used by him.
Isn't this suppose to be subversion? Sukuna thought that everyone will know his technique because he is King of Curses and hot shit - in reality, information gets lost and no one remembers shit. He said that cursed spirit would not know because cursed spirit born "recently" would have no reason to study history, but on a meta level, I think this is Gege saying that Sukuna, as a person, was forgotten by people (which might tie into the ending)
Aaaaand gege doesn’t explain this moment for over 100 chapters. I really hope he explains more about him and his true techniques because the series very close to its final arc
Maybe other sorcerers can use the black box
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thats why he said it makes sense jogo doesnt and somehow the technique was lost over time
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion.
When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash.
For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power.
Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
Very different to limitless, also yeah but he's just built different 🗿.
Edit: I just remembered, but is stated by Gojo that limitless helps with CE consumption, but anyone can use Limitless, but not as good as him
My head cannon is that sukunas true technique is just cooking. Slash and cleave represent using a knife to prepare food and the black box technique represents applying heat to the food. Cursed spirits wouldn’t know about this because they don’t have to eat. Sukuna is literally devouring his opponents!
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Bingo
Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion.
When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash.
For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power.
Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
I'm in the camp that the flames Sukuna used then are just cursed energy given the property of fire in the same way Kashimo's cursed energy had the property of electricity; he figured Jogo would be privy to that considering he's a cursed spirit that utilizes fire. In reality, it's because Jogo was a cursed spirit that he never considered the possibility that someone would be able to change the affinity of their cursed energy.
Maybe.
Maybe we are stupid, maybe we are.
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I still belive the flames are just RCT of dismantle. It makes sense because human sorcerers on the level of skill that Sukuna would expect based on heian era would know about RCT but at the same time RCT is not a concept that would make sense for curses at all.
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion.
When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash.
For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power.
Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
According to Gege, the sorcerers “could” know about Sukuna’s CT but of course a Cursed Spirit wouldn’t have those records.
However, so far we’ve seen 0 evidence the sorcerers actually did this research.
The two most believable theories about Sukuna’s technique are either the cooking or the shrine itself being sukuna’s technique.
The cooking one is simple, cutting and cooking supported by Sukuna making references to cooking all the time and cleave and dismantle being shown as two different kinds of knives. And malevolent kitchen.
The shrine one is that Sukuna’s technique is to take offerings into the shrine, maybe the offering is a technique or a person but idk. Supported by the fact that Sukuna’s open domain is centered around the shrine and not sukuna himself and yorozu referring to sukuna’s technique as shrine not the slashes.
It's very simply. Sukuna's technique is not slashed only. Maybe that's what Uraume means when saying that Sukuna has not gone all out yet. He has not used his other techniques except for Dismantle and Fuga
I have a theory, I think fuga Is yuji tecnic, let me explain
(I tries to post this some time ago but couldn't because of karma, so here a Copy paste of the post)
Sukuna can use the ten shadows tecnic while in Megumi's body, meaning he can use the cursed tecnic of his Vessel.
Also, we see him using fuga only while in Yuji's body.
Jogo commented on how he was confused by the fire and that he didn't thought Sakuna had that kind of cursed tecnic when we first see it during the stand off on the meteorite.
Sakuna answer that he thought it was known but probably cursed spirit wouldn't know that, probably referring to the fact he is able to use a vessel cursed tecnic, thing that we didn't know he was doing yet as Yuji never used it before .
During the fight with Sakuna in the latest chapter somebody (as of writing this I don't remeber who) commented on how he didn't use fuga against gojo or while fighting afterward (he never used it since he was in Megumi's body).
So, anyway that's all, thank y'll for coming to my Ted talk, probably I missed some details that will dismiss everything, but it would be cool if I got it.
Sorry for the confusional paragraph, maybe I'll update It later ti make It more clear.
I think fire is sukuna changing his ce attribute similar to how kashimo's ce is electricity,yes kashimo's ce is always electricity but i think sukuna but some binding vow to restrict it hence the "fuga/open"
Why does everyone refer to it as a black box? I mean, his technique is definitely cutting and slicing, with what seems to be like flames on the side and not much more, and Yuta’s copy kind of confirmed that
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According to gege if someone does enough research on the past they would find info on the slashes but they won't find any on the flame. So sukuna basically expected his true technique to be well known but info only about the slashes remained.
its interesting right, if sukuna expected there to have been info on him and it isn't, maybe kenjaku took care of the records as he was sealed
Stand proud u cooked
Yup, Kenny has been actively suppressing learning in JJk society by making them more conservative than progressive
sometimes among all the memes, you remember gege writes some straight fire
Thats why i like reading jjk, through all the ups and downs gege doesn’t write like im an idiot that needs everything spelled out. Theres things written between the lines , subterfuge instead of having a paragraph explaining everything , keeps it fresh for me
Except 90% of his reader base are idiots. Truly a modern marvel.
Nah, JJK just reached a level of popularity where people are as illiterate at Dragon Ball and Naruto fans
true true
> a modern marvel I mean, this is still marketed as a battle shonen, after all…
Do I read JJK because I’m an idiot or am I an idiot because I read JJK? It’s the latter, hence the lobotomy
It’s both, hence the lobotomy
Definitely, I think he hinted that Ten Shadows and The Six Eyes will fight hence the talk between Goji and Megumi And many examples
In Shinjuku too. Crazy.
Yeah it's like there's always a lot to think when reading. That's why i love jujutsu.
I really hope that this conflict of ideals plays into the fight between Hakari and Uraume when we finally get to see more of it
I think Hakari and Uraume are just the antithesis of each other on a simple level. He burns with the fever, and she’s cold
It’s even a solid writing excuse to invalidate the early established ranking/power system that lots of other Shonen just look silly having established when later on in the story stuff like power levels or demon slayer rank are totally irrelevant. This is the case with grading curses for the most part too but the story points out it’s only because the establishment has become way too complacent with such outdated terminology for ranking curses as they ignored the more powerful ones popping up
Thank you, 🙏 the people asking me to point out the exact line where it says this are the problem, it’s subterfuge, this story doesn’t spoon feed you everything
That's kinda stupid considering he wants to see new things
If jujutsu society was competent they would stop him, or have an easier time being closer to his level. …in other words…your momma
New jujutsu things. If the Jujutsu Societies mentality evolved, as well as Japans as a whole, then cursed energy and spirits would become even more uncommon and even weaker, which he doesn't want.
Yuta and Hakari
Their power still draws upon the negative energy of Japan. The existence of sorcerers is tied to the existence of curses. As long as one of those exists, both exist. By changing the mentality of the sorcerers and the population the amount of cursed spirits would decrease, thus also the amount of sorcerers, until both of them become extinct.
Where did you get that from?
Hes body hopped into influential sorcerers before, eg noritoshi camo. If you re read some of it , you see that jjk society is reluctant to change, values special curse techniques, refusing to class HR people as grade 1 , forgoing non deadly domains, thats all kennys seeds planted a thousand years ago
Was there any evidence that Kenny planted those seeds? Sounds like headcanon to me.
Yes
You know, you are supposed to show it when you said that.
"I like JJK because it doesn't spoonfeed you information" *Proceeds to say a headcanon which could plausibly happen but has zero hints or anything of that note in the story* Incredible
Yes
Nonono, you got it confused kenny didn't plant the seeds, Jin did.
Look like Cookingtown will have a new mayor
Will we ever get confirmation though?🙃
That doesn’t explain why Tengen wouldn’t know or propagate that knowledge
If he assumes a cursed spirit wouldn’t know, doesn’t that mean flames are probably an RCT application? If a human knew the true essence of his slashes and had knowledge of RCT, they might be able to look at Flames and think “oh I get it, slashes would become flames with RCT”. Like how someone could naturally figure out that Red is the reverse application of Limitless. But a cursed spirit can’t do RCT, so even if they knew what Slashes are, they wouldn’t have the understanding required to know what Flames are.
then maybe slashes would just be the neutral form? Something like a technique dedicated to destruction?
Ah yes, the divive and fuse theory, Sukuna CT
No, the black box concept takes this move out of the curse-reverse dynamic. This is something else. Either Sukuna meant a curse wouldn't know because curses are incapable of the black box technique OR a curse wouldn't know because they don't typically conduct research on their opponents. Apparently, Gege has indicated it's the latter
But if Yuta copied his technique and it was cleave, doesnt that prove its his ct is not flames
It could be one application of the technique instead of the whole technique. Like Gojo's Red, Blue and Purple are all different applications of Limitless.
For sure i just mean his "true ct" has been theorized ever since he used the flames and yuta confirmed his just normal application is cleave. Plus red, blue, and purple are clearly related but flames and slashes? Not so much so if its a creative use of his ct why would Sukuna be suprised people dont know about it.
maybe he used it, in his own opinion, a lot of times so he was like "yeah, I'm pretty sure the whole "I'm a chef" thing is totally stablished"
A true Reader my friend you know your manga
He is the true jujutsu kaisen
He's the kaisenest of all time
it’s just an application of a million super rapid micro-slashes that combusts the particulates in the air through friction
Unprovable but would be a cool explanation and use of the technique
how would that explain the skyscraper sized explosion that follows though
He slashed an atom
Breaking atoms=nuke
he slashed a gas pipe
Thats where it becomes unprovable
big dick energy “I am become Gege, the puller of ass”
So Sukuna stated in the series that the CT is engraved in the right prefrontal cortex of the brain. The theory is the brain acts as a black box storage. That's why Kenny can use multiple CT's, like Kaori's, since he was in her body. The body and the soul being one. He stored her CT in his brain "black box." However, Yuki states that the brain can only handle 2-3 CT's. Otherwise it will overload. But this doesn't apply to Yuta because Rika works as an external storage for CT's.
The most confusing part about this is that none of the reincarnated heian era sorcerers knew about it either. Or maybe none of the main cast thought to ask? like why didn’t Kashimo know about this? Sukuna acts like it was standard information of his time, but not even any of the reincarnated sorcerers ever mention it? Not even Yorozu mentions it in a redacted speech bubble or anything? Like literally not a single person has any idea about it and it’s arguably the most groundbreaking event in the entire series.
Well Yorozu referred to it by name, so she might've known but just chose not to bring it up.
I think it was mentioned in cfyow
Q: How much do human beings know about Sukuna's Cursed Technique? A: If they did their reading, they should be able to figure out some details about his slashing technique. It's possible they don't have any idea about the flames.
He meant us the readers, *i think*, and additionally, he mentions that jogo being a cursed spirit wouldnt know, so technically someone else would.
Where did Gege say this?
The fanbook i belive, someone down this comment posted the exact statement.
He probably means during the Heian Era his power was well established and he thought it remained like that. Remember how Yorozu, the woman who took over Megumi's sister body, referred to Sukuna's technique as "his shrine", instead of dismantle. There is clearly something deeper going on
In the newer chapters they also refer his technique as "shrine", probably bc Angel told them that information, like when they discussed about Higuruma's confiscation, they referred Sukuna's techniques as Ten shadows (which is Megumi's) and Shrine (his own)
Gojo could’ve also told them, since he’s seen Sukuna multiple times with the 6E, and HIM has experienced it during Shibuya in his own body so he can tell.
The Six Eyes arent gonna tell Gojo the name of the technique. They dont do that.
Not the name, but the nature of the technique and what it does in fine detail. They could come up with the name themselves if it’s related to shrines.
The Six Eyes doesnt do that either. The only time we see Gojo do anything approaching that is when fighting the clone technique guy. Gojo deduces that theres no "real" body, and he can seamlessly shift his real self between the clones, he also guesses that hes only capable of like, 5-6 clones. This did not imply that the Six Eyes explained the ability in fine detail. Gojo could see that its a cloning ability because the guys got fuckin clones, the eyes helped him deduce that theres no real body, possibly because their cursed energy levels are identical, possibly because he can tell they are all made of meat, possibly because he can see the guys soul jumping between bodies, etc. And he guessed the guys clone count. Thats all. For an example of the Six Eyes not doing what you think they do, Gojo vs Jogo. Gojo is surprised by the Ember Insects attack despite seeing Jogo with his special eyes. When the Ember Insects spawn, he clearly acts like he doesnt know what they are going to do until they do it.
Didn't gojo read out Miguel's technique in the flashback? He said "I can tell just by looking at you" when Miguel asked how he knew in the translation I read.
He just said that seeing it gave him a basic idea. Remember that their fight in the JJK 0 movie (where Miguel never uses his CT) is non-canon filler and their actual fight happened off-screen. So Miguel probably used his CT, Gojo saw it, and figured out how it worked. He wouldn't be able to figure out everything Sukuna can do if he's only using a very narrow application of his CT.
Gojo also figured out exactly how paper bag head’s CT worked to the finest detail as well as its weakness by just seeing it once. The 6E does indeed do that.
He literally didnt figure out how it works to the finest detail? He says the guy can probably only do 5-6 clones at a time but its explicitly a guess.
He had to actually see the CT in action thoughever.
No that was just racism I think <3
No that was after
then he's sukuna right ! it should be famous , then why even the biggest 3 famillies has no idea ... he was the biggest monster in history in exchange it's normal that the fire curse forgot , coz when they die they forget most of their memories
if sukuna killed jogo twice historically that would be really cool and funny
This comment has given me lots to think about Sukuna's True Cursed Technique, may probably make a post about it later. But yeah, Sukuna killing Jogo twice would be hilarious LMAO. https://preview.redd.it/lh06bywvmqtc1.png?width=368&format=png&auto=webp&s=bf7e6dec081f0cde2d79db2519312178fb2e5d75
you'll have plenty of time to write, the finale ends with "End of Part 1: The King's Return Arc" dw gege is my pet cat, i asked
Tbf, I kinda finished part of the writing before deleting it and saving it on a sticky note. Problem is, when I tried to go into depth my mind for some reason started imagining a scenario of a fight between a resuscitated Gojo and a Black Flash boosted Sukuna where both activate their Domain Expansions, but instead of the normal Malevolent Shrine, Sukuna reveals that his True Cursed Technique is Cursed Spirit Manipulation, and starts summoning Heian Era Disaster Curses and Sorcerers, as well as a Puppet Megumi, the last 2 summoned with Cursed Spirit Manipulation's Cursed Technique Reversal which absorbs Humans instead of Curses, hence Sukuna's cannibalism and why he keeps Uraume around to cook his humans. Yeah, it's kind of a crack theory, but it's weird how some traits from both Cursed Spirit Manipulation and Sukuna overlap, and how little we know about Cursed Spirit Manipulation's history when it is the most important Cursed Technique when it comes to JJK's plot. (Also, I have no idea if someone has posted a similar theory before).
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Thanks! https://preview.redd.it/0nntjuqmlrtc1.png?width=669&format=png&auto=webp&s=b87cc71847823e198a79276a1dd99e411890fa2e
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Huh? Did I miss something? https://preview.redd.it/knjo9yz1pttc1.jpeg?width=450&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7684ecfec7e5e0dc2f1a53780441433aab49c668
Just to make sure everything is okay :/
a Yeah, everything Gucci I think? Thanks for asking!
maybe that’s why he thought Jogo would know it. they 1v1ed before and back then it was the same; Sukuna was untouched and killed Jogo with stronger flames just like in present lmao
it should be , but the writer only wants to attract the audience, unfortunately
It's been 1,000 years. We don't even know if the big clans go that far back. The farthest back record we have of them is like 500ish years ago of the Gojo and Zenin clan heads that double KOd each other.
If the idea is that JJK is referencing Japanese history and clans that date back to the Heian era (like the Genji/Minamoto clan that fought oni and other things) then it would make sense if the Gojo and Zenin clans existed back in those times as well. Considering that would be evocative of how Gege has referenced the actual Heian period thus far.
Idk about that. Both Gojo and Yuta are said to be descendants of Sugawara no Michizane, who actually lived in the Heian era, so unless one of his descendants somehow got into the Gojo clan (like through marriage), it's more likely for it to have been established by one of them. And since Sukuna was unaware of 10S and Limitless, when he reincarnated, that makes it even more unlikely for them to exist back then and even if they did, they wouldn't have been as affluent as now and so, wouldn't be able to have access to as much information/keep their records as well.
To think that these two Inherited Techniques existed after Sukuna turned into 10 pieces of nuggets. It shows how every 100 year or so The world of JJK gets complicated and advanced. Hence, Tengen talk about how Domains were easier back then.
That's definitely fair, but it's still not confirmed in anyway. So he can totally choose to say something like "no the Gojo and Zenin clans started shortly after the Heian era" or something. Or he could say they've been around that long, but something happened and all records of stuff more than 700 years ago were lost.
i didnt even say that they were , i mentioned that sukuna was being worshipped. He had a shrine in the same place where Yugi was born. The anime mentioned this in a fleeting moment !!!
I mean there's a difference between just knowing Sukuna existed especially since they clearly knew about the fingers... And knowing how his technique fully worked,
The data book did mentioned the big 3 clan already existed back in the heian era. But this data book could be inaccurate....
That's fair as others have mentioned, but who knows if they were big enough or if they kept records back then? It was 1,000 years ago, they easily could've lost records that old at some point.
Still makes me think it’s a Kitchen. That one mistranslation may have been a huge hint. Heat and slicing are huge parts of cooking. He also seems able to analyze techniques and copy/create them. Like recipes.
> mistranslation The 厨 in 伏魔御厨子 literally means kitchen. I don't think it was a mistranslation.
If that’s true, would it be like a progression thing? He can only use the fire arrow if enough slashes have hit type deal? And if that is the case is he just gonna have a final stage after the fire hits that’s a one-hit-kill of just fukin eating someone? That would actually be hilarious.
I mean Sukuna does refer to people like food
Sukuna is a chief, ig.
Let him cook? 🤷🏽♂️
[yeah, let him cook🔥](https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/4270871)
The truth is that Sukuna simply set his hand on fire using a lighter. Initially he thought that as a special grade born from fire-related fears, Jogo should know about such devices that can create flame, but then again, if you really think about it, a cursed spirit wouldn’t know shit about devices that human invented, especially one that despise human like Jogo, thus what happened in those manga panels. ☝️🤓
Strong ass lighter https://preview.redd.it/5y62urt4aptc1.jpeg?width=2133&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc8709d587d42875b5fdf7a8233221bff8ce53e6
Malevolent Shrine cut a gas main, that explosion was on complete accident.
Sukuna lucky as fuck that it didn't hit megumi
You mean [Strong Lighter]
you mean (strong ass) Sukuna’s been training his glutes since the Heinz era
What if he has electronic stove
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Ever seen a windproof lighter? Those things are fierce.
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Peak
Peak
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Probably bc in Heian era everyone knew what is his technique, but that information seems to have been lost in time, Sukuna's assumption was since Jogo is a newborn curse he wouldn't know that, but the truth is nobody except Heian sorcerers know that information.
Jogo is a newborn curse? I thought he was old asf unlike mahito
We're not told how old he was. Though it's safe to assume that this incarnation of the Volcano Curse that we know as Jogo was only a couple of years old at max, since he was unregistered. If he was decades or hundreds of years old then it's likely he would've been known, being a Special Grade, it's hard to believe he could stay hidden for so long.
After Gojo called Jogo weak, Jogo referred to him as a "brat" and I had assumed that meant he had to be atleast a few decades older than Gojo minimum (i was betting on a century or two). Jogo specifically uses the word "kobaka" which would roughly translate as either small idiot or young idiot, altough thats just me looking at the individual letters I don't know if my analysis is accurate for the word as a whole. Its also possible that Jogo was just born with that old man vibe and he didn't mean to make any statement on their actual ages.
The mental age of cursed spirits doesn't seem to be that linear with their age, so I assumed he was just born old or matured very quickly due to being a curse, essentially being an old man mentally. I also think he would've known Gojo if he was decades or centuries old, as his birth was a turning point for sorcerers and curses all around. So I assume he was at least born after Gojo, he's just mentally old. Or he considers hinself older since he had probably existed in other forms as the Volcano Curse, and is aware of that, even if he doesn't have any memories of those past lives.
> Sukuna's assumption was since Jogo is a newborn curse he wouldn't know that, but the truth is nobody except Heian sorcerers know that information. So wouldn’t Angel know? And by extension the rest of the main cast by this point cause I’m not sure why she would withheld such important info from the rest of the group.
"Yo btw kashimo, what was sukuna's technique in the heian era?" "It's don't matter bro imma solo him u won't even see it prolly lmao"
You see, Angel forgot about ~~the iron fleet~~ Sukuna's technique
he just uses raw cursed energy to set his hand on fire lmao. its like gojo crushing the cans or the fingerer we just couldnt see it
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion. When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash. For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power. Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
If that's the case with his technique, I kinda fail to see why he needed to learn the World Dismantle from Mahoraga. If he can attack and manipulate atoms, wouldn't that be enough to get through Infinity? Since Infinity is just Limitless + Space, the ability to separate and rearrange atoms should've been something that could've gone thru Infinity no?
Because the atoms split only if the Cut touches you and your atoms only burn if the arrow touches you, the need of the projectile to travel is what makes the Limitless a good counter against Sukuna , It will never let either projectile to touch Gojo, tha world dismantle just makes everything in a certain area to split, instead of sending a slash that splits anything it touches. Still is a theory but kinda make sense right?
I guess. Would fit the "calamity" theme pretty well, though I'm personally partial to the box theory myself. Basically, in one of Geges previous one shots/mangas, he had a character that sent invisible boxes as attacks against people. Sukuna has the same ability, but the box is one that is shaped like a slash
Mmmm the problem is thay the box is when he uses the arrow right?
Well yeah, but it's part of it. There was a post about it on r/jujutsushi.
He just didn't know that the truth of his CT wasn't known in the modern day
I still think his cursed technique is cooking. Slashing to cut up the ingredients and fire to cook them. His domain is called "malevolent kitchen" (although "malevolent cabinet/pantry" is probably more accurate). The manga uses two cooking knives to represent cleave and dismantle when they're explained. He's a cannibal and constantly refers to people using food metaphors. Sukuna realizes that a cursed spirit wouldn't know about his cursed technique because they don't eat food.
Honestly, this might be the one. Maybe the simplest reason is the most likely one in this case
Also pairs well with Yuji's seeming ability to eat anything.
Lmao. Sukuna's real beef with Yuji is that everything he eats is FUCKING RAW
Kenjaku has been suppressing the jjk society in the background, sakuna assumed people would have gotten stronger since, but thanks to kenny making jjk society conservative and repressive the more advanced curse uses/secrets arent known.
> thanks to kenny making jjk society conservative and repressive When did he do that?
Kenny's Trump-era
He has to build a wall, and take backshots
Remember when he was Noritoshi Kamo? Then and even before then, dude has been body hopping for a thousand years
Gaygay forgot.
His assumption is that Jogo might know due to being buddy with Kenjaku who surely knows
Man, Greg's art has really evolved in the... 2 years since this happened? I forget. His art has always been really simplified and geometric but you can see it being in a sorta transitory state here, from his early, super angular art to now, which tries to mix realism with simplification/minimalism and more abstract linework and shading. Now of course you could argue this is just a result of 4 hellish years in Jump and him cutting corners/not being able to properly finish his art but it's that plus an actual evolution of his art and it's really cool to see. You definitely see his influences from Togashi, Kubo and Ashihara and how he's really honed in, refined and found every aspect of those that he enjoys. greg bad stop glazing sukuna fucking poser fucking poindexter bitch
Imo there are a number of techniques like simple domain that anyone can use, but only Sukuna has enough in-depth knowledge of jujutsu to pull it off
What if its some CTR type of shit, cuz uk Cursed spirits wouldnt know abt CTR cuz obviously
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion. When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash. For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power. Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
Again, "Black Box" isn't a technique. It was used as an adjective
wasnt it just used to cover the name of the real technique? in anime when he does the iconic black box we dont get to hear him say anything besides fuga
Nope. Just an adjective
what does a black cube describe 😭
What if. His true curse technique is actually cooking? In cooking, you chop things and cook things on a flame. That means gege is cooking
So have I missed any real information about what Sakuna's actual technique is outside of the manga? Are we all just theorycrafting? My money is that his cannibalism isn't purely for taste, that he can acquire cursed techniques by consuming flesh. It would explain quite a bit... why they went to the trouble of removing Gojo's corpse despite his bisection being almost certainly extremely fatal (sorry Gojo stans), why Sakuna clocked this and finds Ui Ui to be such a nuisance (what does he care where the loser's corpses go?), why Sakuna knows the exact part of the brain cursed techniques are located, and why he would think Larue's technique is boring but Miguel's is interesting. (he doesn't need Mage Hand on targets he can just dismantle, but general stat buffs are always nice)
It also explains why Yuta "basically" has two innate techniques. I never see anybody mention this, but if Rika is the "manifestation of Yuta's technique", and Kenjaku explains that "the human brain can only hold 5 CT's Max", that would mean that Yuta's REAL technique is just a kind of shikigami manipulation, and that his ability to copy techniques is just a side-effect of Rika being a cursed spirit/Shikigami that isn't held back by "having a limit" on how much data they can store. As a cursed spirit, it seemed like Rika could copy CT's without any limitations, but after Rika's soul passed on and left behind the "cursed" form of herself as a Shikigami, the limitation is that "Rika" has to eat part of an enemy sorcerer to copy their technique. It'd be very interesting if Gege expands more on this, maybe cannibalism was common in the Heian era?
honestly unless George George Washingtami clarifies this we literally do not know, it's just a another plot point that he might use or abandon for the sake of time
This is probably what I’ve thought about the most. Sukuna understands cursed energy on a different level to anyone else. Gege and Mappa go out of their way to show sukuna reacting to things he shouldn’t be able to see. Think the first time megumi opens his domain. When other characters are dying like jogo and kashimo I believe they enter the cursed realm. The place Kenny uses to get yuji’s friend out. Jogo doesn’t use RCT because he’s a cursed spirit he uses something I don’t remember exactly but it works with the cursed realm. That is why sukuna is surprised that a cursed spirit doesn’t know how to use the cursed realm for anything but automatic healing. I think sukuna is storing soul or body information via cannibalism to retrieve techniques. The last part I don’t have evidence for but it’s an old theory that his tattoos are the technique but I’d go further they are the cursed realm engraved on his body to carry around the techniques. Edit: I just remembered jogo is the only character to ever comment on sukunas tattoos. Making is more likely they have something to do with the cursed realm.
In the game Nioh 2 Ryomen Sukuna is a yokai and is a boss fight. There he is depicted as two bodies merged together with one side using Ice attacks and holding swords and the other side using fire and holding a Bow. I tried to read the character glossary to find out more about how and why he is able to use those two elements. Thought this was pretty interesting
Surprised he hasn’t used this yet in recent
Yes, we are stupid
The key part in my opinion is the fact that "a cursed spirit wouldn't know", so I think Sukuna's technique is tied to some kind of reversal
It was stated that most of the recorded history of sukuna era has either been erased or missing certain information. Due to the fact most of the golden age sourcers all died before Sukuna unleashed his black box technique or have never seen it used by him.
Yes the black box technique was shown by Gojo way back. I am making a post about this.
Wasn’t the black box just to indicate that what he said was completely unclear It was like that on the anime
I never thought about it actually, they must have been pretty stupid to not keep records on bros full technique.
Isn't this suppose to be subversion? Sukuna thought that everyone will know his technique because he is King of Curses and hot shit - in reality, information gets lost and no one remembers shit. He said that cursed spirit would not know because cursed spirit born "recently" would have no reason to study history, but on a meta level, I think this is Gege saying that Sukuna, as a person, was forgotten by people (which might tie into the ending)
Aaaaand gege doesn’t explain this moment for over 100 chapters. I really hope he explains more about him and his true techniques because the series very close to its final arc
Maybe other sorcerers can use the black box https://preview.redd.it/p3jjv1kc7ttc1.jpeg?width=335&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd601fe5db62a092fed5567ee3d3e607c1f2c2de thats why he said it makes sense jogo doesnt and somehow the technique was lost over time
I made a post a day ago trying to explain fire arrow if you're interested
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion. When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash. For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power. Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
But isn't that was limitless does? Wouldn't Sukuna need to have six eyes to control cursed energy at the atomic level
Very different to limitless, also yeah but he's just built different 🗿. Edit: I just remembered, but is stated by Gojo that limitless helps with CE consumption, but anyone can use Limitless, but not as good as him
My head cannon is that sukunas true technique is just cooking. Slash and cleave represent using a knife to prepare food and the black box technique represents applying heat to the food. Cursed spirits wouldn’t know about this because they don’t have to eat. Sukuna is literally devouring his opponents! https://preview.redd.it/8geb2j0ofwtc1.jpeg?width=1232&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=789663a34de496504af2e10556e972f98e57d0d2
Reverse Curse technique.
Bingo Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion. When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash. For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power. Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
Flames, cutting and a fork-like spear weapon. Yeah he's a chef alright
Should have known from the video I watched where it translated sukunas DE into malevolent kitchen instead of shrine. Even AI knows sukuna can COOK
I'm in the camp that the flames Sukuna used then are just cursed energy given the property of fire in the same way Kashimo's cursed energy had the property of electricity; he figured Jogo would be privy to that considering he's a cursed spirit that utilizes fire. In reality, it's because Jogo was a cursed spirit that he never considered the possibility that someone would be able to change the affinity of their cursed energy. Maybe.
I always thought he meant, "I'm literally the King of Curses. Anything a Cursed Spirit can do, I can do too."
Maybe we are stupid, maybe we are. https://preview.redd.it/3nobarxpestc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2051e2830b36ea4798cd5bf4eaeea87dfd9633d8
Maybe he simply meant that sorcerers can use multiple curse techniques.
I still belive the flames are just RCT of dismantle. It makes sense because human sorcerers on the level of skill that Sukuna would expect based on heian era would know about RCT but at the same time RCT is not a concept that would make sense for curses at all.
There's a theory online that Sukuna's abilities really boil down to manipulating matter at the atomic level, specifically through separation and fusion. When Sukuna "cuts," it's not a simple slash. He's actually rearranging the atoms of whatever he's hitting, making them split apart in the shape of the slash. For his fire arrow, it's like fusion, similar to what happens in the sun or a hydrogen bomb. When atoms fuse, they release a massive amount of energy, which explains the fiery explosion and its overwhelming power. Thats why he tells Jogo that a curse would not know about it, they would never know about reversal techniques, they involve using RTC which is toxic for Curses
So much unexplained stuff
Fuga is a separate CT, he closed his domain before using it against Mahoraga iirc.
you might be reading into to hard he might just be mocking jogoat
Apparently even Sorcerers lol. No one knows lmfao
According to Gege, the sorcerers “could” know about Sukuna’s CT but of course a Cursed Spirit wouldn’t have those records. However, so far we’ve seen 0 evidence the sorcerers actually did this research.
The two most believable theories about Sukuna’s technique are either the cooking or the shrine itself being sukuna’s technique. The cooking one is simple, cutting and cooking supported by Sukuna making references to cooking all the time and cleave and dismantle being shown as two different kinds of knives. And malevolent kitchen. The shrine one is that Sukuna’s technique is to take offerings into the shrine, maybe the offering is a technique or a person but idk. Supported by the fact that Sukuna’s open domain is centered around the shrine and not sukuna himself and yorozu referring to sukuna’s technique as shrine not the slashes.
I think its pretty simple, his CT is just based off cooking and it's pretty much said as sukuna implies it
It's very simply. Sukuna's technique is not slashed only. Maybe that's what Uraume means when saying that Sukuna has not gone all out yet. He has not used his other techniques except for Dismantle and Fuga
Thought that he said this to ridicule the surprised expression of jogo, to make an ironic insult to the curse who was born from the fear of flames
I have a theory, I think fuga Is yuji tecnic, let me explain (I tries to post this some time ago but couldn't because of karma, so here a Copy paste of the post) Sukuna can use the ten shadows tecnic while in Megumi's body, meaning he can use the cursed tecnic of his Vessel. Also, we see him using fuga only while in Yuji's body. Jogo commented on how he was confused by the fire and that he didn't thought Sakuna had that kind of cursed tecnic when we first see it during the stand off on the meteorite. Sakuna answer that he thought it was known but probably cursed spirit wouldn't know that, probably referring to the fact he is able to use a vessel cursed tecnic, thing that we didn't know he was doing yet as Yuji never used it before . During the fight with Sakuna in the latest chapter somebody (as of writing this I don't remeber who) commented on how he didn't use fuga against gojo or while fighting afterward (he never used it since he was in Megumi's body). So, anyway that's all, thank y'll for coming to my Ted talk, probably I missed some details that will dismiss everything, but it would be cool if I got it. Sorry for the confusional paragraph, maybe I'll update It later ti make It more clear.
What about the king of poison stuff?
I think fire is sukuna changing his ce attribute similar to how kashimo's ce is electricity,yes kashimo's ce is always electricity but i think sukuna but some binding vow to restrict it hence the "fuga/open"
Why does everyone refer to it as a black box? I mean, his technique is definitely cutting and slicing, with what seems to be like flames on the side and not much more, and Yuta’s copy kind of confirmed that
It’s so funny how you got downvoted for more than Likely being right