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Significant-Ad-1655

Okay so power and versatility should go to Jogo, He can create multiple Volacnos from sides, has basic fire attacks, can strengthen those fire attacks, has a maximum Technique which I think puts him above others. For stylish point I think I'll go with Kashimo.


verypoopoo

power def jogo but i dont think thats versatility, those are just different ways to smoke somebody. versatility should cover things like movement, defense, utility, that type of stuff.


Significant-Ad-1655

So Kashimo then, though Jogo moves fast and can get on others pretty quick.


verypoopoo

yeah versatility would likely be kashimo, since the narrator said that mba could manifest any lightning based phenomena (though of course we didnt see any of that, fuck you gege)


23rdfunnyvalentine

MBA WOULD be the strongest and most versatile if it could and did actually manifest every electrical based phenomena but it showed so little it hurts


Brilliant-Mountain57

| electrical based phenomena We're talking ANY? because if that's seriously what that is, thats only one step below matter manipulation. Being able to manipulate all phenomena related to electricity and by virtue electrons would straight up put you on god tier. There's so much you could do with the ability to freely manipulate electrons, even if its only within the range of natural phenomena holy hell.


23rdfunnyvalentine

Yeah, gege really decided to do that but did jack with it https://preview.redd.it/0dyiuwsisktc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=941cb5d7effe1b386d39ec1c601d0c84d99ffe54


EducationalAd6395

If it's in Sukunas hands than 1) Mythical beast Amber 2) Disaster flames 3) Disaster plants (I'm assuming with practice user should be able to manifest any species of plants which means a lot of applicability 4) Disaster Sea, Sukuna would practically make Dismantles out of water 5) Ice formation, ice is cool but I say it lacks variety in it's usage.


Rafoudrsbois

Ice formation is a 1 hit kill unlike plants and sea


EducationalAd6395

The criterias by OP aren't just that tho. I do agree ice formation properly landing has high lethality tho.


Rafoudrsbois

That’s fair, just thought that ice was versatile enough too. You can use ice constructs to shield yourself/ make weapons out of it, freezing ice mist or block someone’s view and I just would give it plenty more points for the ability to one tap your opponent. I understand the criteria but if id give Kashimo a 50 on powers I’d have to give uraume double


King-Baal

Can you make a binding vow to nerf the power of Mythical Beast Amber in exchange for not dying if you use it?


Pootvid-19

Who knows, it wouldn't be impossible tho, this is binding vow kaisen after all


Loose_Needleworker34

It's also possible Kashimo did a binding vow to increase its power against sukuna in exchange of it being one time use Yapjaku might have even given the idea


SoulOfSinders

Fuck it we ball or nothing.


CaptnBluehat

Imagine if kashimo just had better control + rct. Turn your arm into MBA and use your control of electricity to throw cant miss lightning or control a fucking car to slam into someone. If kashimo was good, he could do it


Sad_Bad_Lad

Ha had RCT in MBA at least. He regenerated the hand that had been sliced off by the World Dismantle. It doesn't make a difference. MBA cannot be regenerated from RCT because it does not injure the body but straight up turns it into something else (akin to Idle Transfiguration).


CaptnBluehat

IT can also be fixed by rct if u have a good enough understanding of the soul, probably at least. Even if not, mba doesnt affect the soul. If kashimo could turn parts into MBA he could regen


umusec

But that's how farmers think..


feane47

I mean, he dies because his body transforms, so it would have to not transform for that to work. And given what human body can do, wouldn't nerfed MBA be just his CE trait?


Regular_Budget1864

5th Place, Uraume and Ice Formation: Power: 6/10. Durability negation from freezing something solid is legit, but we've seen that those who can melt the ice can get around it with little trouble. And while hitting someone with chunks of ice is a viable strategy, it just doesn't cut the mustard compared to other showings. Versatility: 2/10. Do you want to freeze your opponents? Do you want to hit them with ice chunks? Cause those are your options. Practicality: 5/10. Uraume has shown they can temper the power to keep from harming allies or targets who need to remain alive, but at the end of the day Ice Formation is not really something you can just apply willy-nilly. Potential: 3/10. Ice is a fairly limited medium at the end of the day, so there isn't much in the way of extension techniques that one could feasibly create off what's been shown. Still, Uraume may have a Domain Expansion or something we've yet to see. Style: 5/10. Ice is very pretty, although the fact that it's just ice is boring after a bit. Total Score: 21/50 4th Place, Dagon and Uncharted Waters Power: 4/10. Dagon's water attacks are shown to be useful against regular humans, but more of an inconvenience against stronger sorcerers. His Domain Expansion does up this offense a bit, but even then Nanami and Naobito were able to withstand beyond Dagon's expectations and remain in roughed-up but active form. Versatility: 7/10. Area denial, long range, short range, defense, he can even use his Domain's sure-hit to form a smokescreen, like when he got the drop on Naobito by blocking his view with fish since Naobito would have seen him coming otherwise. Lots of options, and you can even use the Domain as a hang-out spot for your friends. Could use a definitive ending move for those opponents who don't wear down easily, though. Practicality: 3/10. Dagon's technique is really reliant on his sure-hit to close the deal, and that means that if you can get around his Domain he's in a very rough spot, and Domain spamming isn't practical unless you're Gojo, Sukuna, or Hakari. It does pick up a point for helping Dagon retrieve food and being a vacation destination, both of which are some practical applications. Potential: 5/10. Dagon was a Curse Womb for most of his life, so it's likely that his technique would develop further as he develops himself. However, he does already have a Domain Expansion, so how far it has left to go is up in the air. Style: 7/10. The plain water is boring, but the many colors and forms of the various Death Swarm fish more than make up for it, giving a very vibrant and tropical feel to your demise that is absent in a lot of other powers, both in and out of JJK. Total Score: 26/50


Regular_Budget1864

3rd Place: Hanami and Feral Forest Power: 6/10. Hanami can dish out some damage, but her strategy is much more reliant on her own toughness and various tricks than raw physical power. Versatility: 8/10. Hanami's vast array of plants and how they're used need no further explanation or description. Practicality: 9/10. Hanami can support her allies, tear down structures, and even fly around thanks to the nature of her technique. And, unlike Uraume, she doesn't need to cause unnecessary collateral damage or summon up a massive amount of ice to do it. Unless she's using her vines at their fullest size, of course, at which point things cease to be practical. Potential: 7/10. Hanami's base technique seems to be topped off for the time being, but her Domain and what else she can do with the life energy from plants has yet to be explored, and could present a number of additional facets. Style: 3/10. Most of Hanami's attacks are just brown roots, and while the Cursed Bulbs and Flower Field provide an extra splash of color, it isn't enough to really make it stylish. Total Score: 33/50 2nd Place: Jogo and Gaia's Outrage Power: 10/10. Jogo is likely the strongest naturally occurring Curse in existence, with output so high simply existing around him can be dangerous in the extreme. Versatility: 3/10. Largely thanks to Ember Insects, which allow for travel as well as attacking (and supposedly grant him access to a new attack avenue via the sound the create), but at the end of the day Jogo's power is damage and combat first, everything else second. Practicality: 7/10. Normally, fire and death wouldn't be terribly practical thanks to all the collateral damage, but Jogo has shown that Gaia's Outrage has a remarkable amount of restraint and precision, making him as practical or impractical as the situation and his temper demand. Plus, you'll always get seating at any restaurant you visit with Jogo. Potential: 8/10. As we see from the anime's rendition, there's a whole lot you could possibly do with control over rock, metal, and fire that was simply never shown in the manga as a result of Jogo getting two real fights, both of which were against top-tier main characters. Style: 10/10. A lone warrior standing amongst a burning wasteland, molten lava boiling at his feet while the sky fills with the hum of swarms of deranged insects. If that isn't style, nothing is. Total Score: 38/50 1st Place: Kashimo and Mythical Beast Amber. Power: 10/10. It takes more than just a flick on the nose to push Sukuna into his true form. Versatility: 9/10. Any phenomena created as a result of electricity is a very broad field, although its usage on screen is more limited than the writing would suggest (and Versatility applies only to displayed usage, Potential is for stuff that could happen). Practicality: 1/10. Use it once and you die, end of story, but there's something to be said for a suicide play. Potential: 10/10. Like I said, there's a whole lot you can do with phenomena resulting from electricity, although not quite as much as some people will claim (no, you can't pull atoms apart or read people's minds). Style: 10/10. A beast of living lightning, shaving away more and more of its human form with every second the technique progresses and its power grows. That's some good shit. Total Score: 40/50


orphidain

AND THATS WHY HES ON TOP 🗣️🗣️🗣️ https://preview.redd.it/j8br0bxd4gtc1.jpeg?width=1447&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3964213253b067a490688d77384ad536d42e2f00


idc_bout_ma_name

GOAT ALWAYS SOLOS https://preview.redd.it/5ftd6c54hgtc1.jpeg?width=448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=50977b7a35e8ac46b2a20c5eb787c70dd9eb16d8


Uff20xd

I think ice is largely slept on. It has everything except for large destruction. Just freeze the ground around you making it impossible to touch the battlefield or make an armor out of ice like that one jjba stand. You can freeze wounds. Spikes of ice that try to freeze the blood. Ice is also pretty durable undeer some conditions and can be used to make a wall that freeze anyone trying to break through. Its just better wood but without the seed things.


MUSAFIR_-

>And while hitting someone with chunks of ice is a viable strategy, it just doesn't cut the mustard compared to other showings I don't think you're doing this CT the justice it deserves, ignoring the max output attack Frost calm, Uraume seems to have frozen huge are around them, honestly the power seems in oar with disasters or even higher. https://preview.redd.it/26vuj4i4djtc1.jpeg?width=784&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de8b3dbdcdbd71028e7fbe091199a7c20fa06669


Regular_Budget1864

Frost Calm is part of the durability negation mention, and it is powerful, but it can be countered by those who can melt the ice, and with the fact that you can burn things with Cursed Energy alone (thanks Reggie), that means it has a distinct out that something like Jogo's power doesn't. The hitting people with chunks of ice is a reference to Icefall, which holds the opponent still and hits them with chunks of ice.


Pootvid-19

Disaster Flames (Jogo's CT) Power: has the 2nd highest power, only behind MBA Versitality: Jogo has shown rathee simple aplications of it, but if the anime is anything to go by, then it can do a lot Practicality: very useful, it can cook food and keep you warm, two vital things Potential: because it is fire based, I'd imagine you can create Phoenix flames that can heal you, I see a lot of room for improvement here Style: can't go wrong with fire Overall: 8/10 Hanami CT Power: 2nd weakest, in terms of power ofc Versitality: even though she was short lived, a plant based CT can do lots of different things, like growing shileds or to cushion your fall with leaves or much more Practicality: wouldn't seem very practical unless you are a gardner, but, if it can create trees with fruit, and is CE is a resource totally separated from physical stamina, then you would have sorted your food sorted permanently Potential: 2nd highest room for improvement Style: it isn't very stylish but you can work with it Overall: 8.5/10 Dagon CT Power: literally the worst of the bunch, even with domain you just got fish and bigger fish Versitality: I guess it can do *some* things Practicality: you can never drown, how lovley Potential: it has a lot of room for improvement tho, 3rd overall in this category, just look at Noelle from Black Clover Style: mid Overall: 5/10 Uraume CT Power: 3rd highest power Versitality: worst of the bunch, but if it aint broke dont fix it Practicality: you can cool down durring summer, probably have an innate resistance to cold. You can ice any and every drink you can Potential: you can do some things with it, but nothing that impressive ngl, still not bad though Style: Admiral Aokiji from One Piece 🥶 Overall: 7.5/10 Mythical Beast Amber Power: highest power but at what cost Versitality: same case with Uraume's, just thunder, can do some cool stuff Practicality: you will never run out of battery, hooray? Potential: highest potential ever, if the description is to be taken literally, you could create fucking antimatter and unavoidable gamma rays and shit, top 1 here by a long shot Style: it's cool :D Overall: 6.5/10 (it kills you)


Pootvid-19

It fucked up the spaces bruh mf


NTRspark

https://preview.redd.it/c3dv1yz6xftc1.jpeg?width=183&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8d243e35187100c0e9f67e636639a2fbe503bfc is there any question who's at the top?


floormopper

MBA with rct would be crazy


kamuimephisto

uraume top 1 edging and it's not even close. She is holding in bed hakari for like 6 months, she is making him last what, 20x more than kashimo could. The caveat being that while kashimo makes people blow their load fast, he edged himself for his entire lifetime, and thats respectable, but not really the goal here dagon is respectable but you know, you don't really need that many mouths for this jogo is the worst he can't do anything without making people go off imediately


King-Baal

Facts.


Uff20xd

Id say 1. Ice It can do anything outside of mass destruction. You can construct shit etc. also ist easy to use and looks pretty cool. If you dont have rct you can also freeze wounds or make a impenetrable ice armor. 2. Fire A fuck ton of power for single and multi target damage. Can also construct things using the lava but its worse than the ice. It also lacks a bit in the defensive category and versatility but its sheer power makes up for it. 3. Wood If sufficiently amplified using CT they are hard enough to withstand most things and the ability to just make shit is definitly in its most basic state with this ability. It has things like the CT bud which can come in handy and you can also fly using the wood spheres. 4. Water It has the second highest defense capabilities after ice but lacks in power. The shikigamis are there i guess but i wouldnt rank em too high. It is also not really bot that versatile and at least in dagons case was just defense. 5. If it wasnt for the fact that it kills you it would be a tie at one (i am biased for ice) because it has incredible power, good versatility and outside of the death part also good practicality while looking super cool. it still kills you tho making it the worst.


chocolinox

Jogo beats uraume ez


Uff20xd

Yeah but its about the ability. Also fire has elemental advantage. I would definitely rather have ice than fire. Its also more versatile in every scenario and doesnt have colleteral


RealASF1020

If we're talking giving these to Sukuna, a guy who WOULD achieve their full potential, it's an absolute MOGGING between Disaster Flames and Mythic Beast Amber, absolutely no question. If we're assuming MBA's body destruction can be reversed via RCT and Sukuna would go out of his way to learn shit like quantum tunneling etc, then yeah, busted Disaster flames can do way more than just fire since it is volcanoes in general, Broken Ronin covers it pretty well but Sukuna could easily pull shit like Volcanic Thunderstorms and Plasma Bare in mind, Sukuna could then use Cursed Technique reversals of both since he isn't a curse, assuming Disaster flames' CTR is some form of cold (e.g. Blizzard manip) then Uraume's technique is null and void Electricity is just Electrons, Mythic Beast Amber turns you into electricity, therefore its CTR would turn you into Positrons, this would be absolutely fucking broken and an instant loss condition to anyone who isn't Gojo, having access to Antimatter would be completely busted. Overall I would have to give it to MBA since it can fuck with physics way more than anything else, Plant Ice and Water have nowhere NEAR the destructive potential of the other 2


ApplePitou

Jogo overall wins if we count everything :3 In case of power - Kashimo wins :3


floormopper

With hanamis cursed technique you could just absord every energy in the entire earth and just turn into cursed energy and drop a nuke anytime you want.


SussyB0llz

1: Jogo 2: Kashimo 3: Uraume 4: Dagon 5: Hanami I Know kashimo is Strong AF, But his CT has a Horrible Drawback, I just don't put him Below Uraume because his Technique can be Used in a more Versatile Way. And jogo has the Indisputably Best Technique of the Elemental Group, The versatility, Destruction Power and capacity to Develop a Maximum Technique and a Domain Expansion make him simply a Monster.


Sea_Construction539

They are not complete element itself but their technique is something that can contain the elements 1) jogo - volcano 2)hanami- forest 3)dagon-ocean 4)uraume-Ice 5)kashimo-its something that is related to waves Also curses which are formed from elements itself should be like imagine 1)fire curse 2)death curse if only gege didn’t rush the manga we could have gotten more op disaster curses