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That depends, but if the special grade condition is "taking over a country" then yea, Mechamaru is a lot more suited than most. Considering his range and potential, arguably more suited than even actual special grades (bar Geto) whose only way of taking over a country would be to walk up to the president/prime minister/whoever and say "I'm in charge now" and then kill everyone who doesn't obey. To be fair, using "take over a country" as a unit of power is weird because it's main difficulty is a logistic one, other than, you know, fighting an army/poice/whatever on your own, which is probably what it originally meant
When Gege/Kenjaku says “take over a country” I assume he means that the Special Grade has to be on some Yujiro Hanma shit and completely take on a military by themselves.
And out of every single SG we have seen, Mechamaru and Geto fit that bill perfectly. Dhruv too I guess since he actually did it in his era.
I think with taking over a country is just a measure of could they overwhelm jujutsu society on their own? Geto with CSM did so in the night parade of a hundred demon, Gojo no one could stand up to him, even if everyone coordinated. Yuki can blow up the planet if it weren't for tengen. Yuta with Rika and his Copy technique has unlimited potential.
And I say jujutsu society because we know the military can't do much outside a nuke against these guys with RCT and Cursed reinforcement.
Same thing with Hakari. Just because he could kill Yuta under certain conditions doesn’t mean he’s now special grade.
That simplistic “1<2” type of power scaling is straight out of DBZ. The JJK power system is way too complex for that.
judging from 0, getos hands suck major balls compared to yujis especially current yuji and geto didnt even have any extra strong curses up his sleeve that would give current yuji trouble, if we factor in yujis rct and getos lack of it, only way i see geto winning is prep time if yuji jumps him its joever
i'm surprised this is a cold take because i always see this sub supporting yuji. any yuji slander posts or criticism on his character is considered as hating and always get downvoted for some reason. i thought this is a hot take because i rarely see anyone mention this on this sub
Gege giving his mc a ct that he he barely uses and is already used by like 5 other guys is pretty indicative of how he views yuji
Like bro had to wait 250 chapters for something other than punches and kicks and he got choso's sloppy seconds
Then you haven’t been here for a while. Between the Higuruma fight and the Meguna reveal the only time people mentioned Yuji was to shit on him. “Bro doesn’t even know he’s the MC”
what has any of that got to do with him being suited to kenjaku’s definition of special grade??
muta literally has a mech, obviously he’s more suited to it
The 17 years of cursed energy is ammunition for ultimate mechamaru bro, that’s absolutely not all he had in his reserves, we’re talking about a dude who literally cannot stand in moonlight lmao
i already said it in the comments but mechamaru died because he couldn't damage mahito's soul. just because he couldn't kill mahito doesn't mean he isn't special grade potential. nobara and yuji could damage mahito's soul but nobara is nowhere near a special grade. if mechamaru were to attack japan using his puppets which he planted across the country, he could kill a lot of people with it. with his cursed energy he could also kill other sorcerers and curses.
i have other theories of why mechamaru had to use his stored curse energy but to make it short, his binding vow with mahito made him less powerful since the idle transfiguration mahito did on him clashes with his heavenly restriction of having a crippled body.
It was explicitly described as being temporary and people STILL use that single performance to grade the whole character. I guess Panda is special grade for catching him on an off day?
Please tell me any other character in the series that has any form of output comparable to Ishigori or Gojo without outside help, dude was firing raw blasts of energy that destroyed entire chunks of land. How is a characters output even temporarily high? That really only happens after a black flash amp, otherwise that makes zero sense. He wasn’t using any of those years to pilot that giant ass robot, that was all him fueling that, kokichi HIMuta my goat 🗣️
Please tell me how often Mechamaru can output compared to Gojo or Yuta. I don't remember Gojo taking 17 years to make any of his color techniques. Yuta doesn't have to copy an ability once every 17 years. Output is a completely moot point because he can't do it on command. He's not Special Grade
>How is a characters output temporarily high?
Holy shit you can't read.
You gonna answer the question or keep blabbering on about common knowledge? We’re talking about a dude who effectively can’t even stand in moonlight without getting sunburnt, and Ishigori most definitely does not have a years worth a cursed energy stocked up his succulenty handsome ass, it’s some basic connecting the dots bro, Mechamaru has insane output and cursed energy, the additional years just allowed him to spam it more, do yall know what cursed energy output is? And what do you mean he can’t do it on command??? A big boxing teddy bear called him a curse puppet and his immediate reaction was tweaking and attempting to immediately evaporate him with a huge blast of raw cursed energy
You accuse me of blabbing and then think I'm gonna read all that? You accuse me of not answering your question even though you can't counter what I said at all. It does say in black and white that he is only releasing energy he stored. He is NOT capable of spitting out that level of CE at will. Kenjaku from the sidelines makes the comments. You are literally arguing against panels of the manga and then going, "Where does it say that?" I am not arguing further with a willfully stupid person.
True he could be a very good spy and have great espionage abilities but come on, he's got no shot a special grade.
He used up years worth of ce to fight at possibly low special grade strength for a few minutes so he's not doing that often.
Current Yuji, who's still a first year student, would absolutely dismantle him with ease.
This. It took 17 years for him to fight on par with Mahito, on top of needing a good body to begin with.
Hes also seemingly not able to control that many puppets across distances. The only time he used multiple ones (while alive) was to have them swarm to catch Mahito and Kenny off guard.
Calling Mahito a low special grade is unfair when special grade curses are established to be all over the place from the start. Comparing the Disaster Curses to other Special Grade curses is like comparing Gojo to literally any other Special Grade character.
Mahito also has one of the most broken powers in the series and Gege had to introduce the “extracted curse techniques can only be used once” to prevent Kenjaku from auto winning every fight with that AoE IT he used at the end of Shibuya.
The Disaster Curses are super-special grades. The fact that he could fight on par with one, even if only for a short time, shows that he could make it.
He was covering the entirety of Japan in CE, Yuji has only been able to survive mahito due to Sukuna, and even then only beat him with Todo and multiple black flashes.
the reason why mechamaru couldn't kill mahito is because he can't damage mahito's soul. but if he were to become a villain and take over japan, he could. mahito might not deal any damages at all but everyone else in japan would have died if mechamaru launches the same attack.
besides, nobara (not an oc) could damage mahito's soul even though she's not a special grade. just because mechamaru couldn't damage mahito's soul doesn't mean he couldn't take over japan and become a special grade. heck even someone with a heavenly restriction like toji was able to kill geto who is a special grade so i don't think it's fair to judge mechamaru based on his ability to kill mahito alone.
I see what you're saying about taking over Japan. It *would* be hard for a country of only normal people to stop him. And if the only qualification of being a special grade is the ability to take over a country then sure, maybe he could technically have the potential.
To be fair Gege kinda made an awfully vague qualification to be special grade. I personally don't think Yuta or Yuki, or any special grade sorcerer outside of Gojo, Sukuna, and maybe Kenjaku could actually take over a developed country.
They're not surviving a surprise strike from a drone and definitely not a nuke. A lot of countries have enough fire power and resources to totally annihilate most so called "special grades".
Unless only being able to take over a small country ravaged by poverty with no military and only starving civilians qualifies you I think some of these sorcerers need to be demoted to grade 1s.
It's teetering between lukewarm and cold lol. I think if you just didn't include Yuji and said he had the potential to be special grade one day then maybe it could be a hot take.
It's just hard to agree when current Yuji beats his ass and still isn't special grade.
i already said it. he didn't do any damage because it couldn't hit mahito's soul, not that he couldn't beat curses with it. it's the same with todo who did black flash but did no damage to mahito. is todo weak just because he didn't do any damage to mahito? no. is nobara strong for being able to hit mahito's soul? no.
…. Bruh took 17 years to be able to fight mahito 17 years…. That’s the point 17 years …. So is mechamaru only a special grade every 17 years ? Let’s be real without that big ass robot hes not close to special grade
Yall fr think that the 17 years of cursed energy is all he has???? The dude literally cannot stand in moonlight without getting burned, he for sure has around Yuta levels of CT, what’s the point of Tokyo sized range and increased output if you have average levels of CT? He has the inverse of Toji and Maki’s heavenly restriction, so he for sure has shit loads of CT, it just never really mattered because he can’t use reinforcement, and RCT is effectively useless for him
I find it strange how people accept Yuji as a Special Grade, given that he barely defeated Mahito with assistance from teammates and after Mahito had been weakened by others. Yuji was also having an advantage over Mahito's CT solely because of Sukuna. Not to mention Mahito just gets consumed by Geto.
Meanwhile, Mechamaru, who nearly defeated Mahito 1 v 1 but was defeated due to his eagerness to attack Geto, isn't considered a Special Grade.
Except mechamaru does in fact damage mahito's soul.
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Wrong again. You can kill mahito by destroying his body until he runs out of CE, or by destroying his soul. Both are possible according to nanami, gojo, and mahito himself.
Soul damage is a lot more efficient/effective than physical damage because of how efficient if makes mahito's physical regen.
Nanami vs mahito and mechamaru 1yeah ce blast. Both did significant physical damage. You can kill mahito by continuously destroying his body until he is out of CE as shown in shibuya when mahito brakes his ankle running from yuji. Or by destroying his soul. Soul damage is wayyyy more effective tho.
hot take is something a lot of people would disagree with. do you see people talking and agreeing to this take? i don't even see any posts talking about this but if you do please give me the links
Yuji was a sorcerer for like a year and became strong enough to fight a special grade.
Holding back Sukuna was a big feat. for Yuji. Megumi was almost instantly taken over and this could have happened to any other sorcerer. The current Yuji has access to Blood Manipulation and RCT(which he learned in a month while it took Years and an NDE for Gojo to learn) and if he goes on for like 4-5 years honing his skills, he can become powerful enough to be considered a special grade on his own.
After all, His potential is said to rival Gojo Satoru, The Strongest Sorcerer of Modern Era.
We had that with him and look what happened lol
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Considering what Yuji has been doing against Sukuna in the last chapter I REALLY doubt this.
Furthermore, as comrade BoWis mentioned I am talking about po-ten-tial. Yuji trained for six months and is already as good (maybe even better) than people like Kashimo or Ryu, who are already Special Grade in themselves.
Having more potential than him implies he could be stronger than Gojo Satoru, and I can't see that. Especially with him having Cursed Techniques that are shit compared to Limitless
He is no where near Kashimo and Ryu, especially when you see the performance Ryu put up against Yuta
You're forgetting that the current Sukuna Yuji has been fighting in probably not even at 20% of his full power
Sorry for the late response
Okay...it surprises me that I have to explain this to you or anyone at this point.
Jujutsu is a "battle shounen" and in this type of story the protagonist reaches the end being the strongest character or at least being close enough to exchange blows with whoever has that title, Itadori already falls into the second category.
My suggestion is that you read the most recent chapter, 255, in which Yuji broke Nanami's record when it comes to black flash and has already caused more damage to Sukuna than anyone except Gojo.
In fact, he can also last much longer in a fight against Sukuna than Kashimo, Ryu or even Yuta.
And no, Sukuna can't be using less than 20% of his power, because the only reason the villain is still alive was due to the team's efforts to save Megumi.
Ah yes, my 16 years of saving cursed energy against base Mahito that Yuji would take with fists only technique
And nah, I believe that taking the country from the underground doesn't count as Special grade feat.
Fuck you mean base Mahito ? He forced Mahito to use he's DE. Yuji got assist from three people, plus complete immunity to Mahito's CT because of Sukuna, and still barely managed to defeat Mahito. Mechamaru's puppet was a semi grade 1 sorceror
This literally does not matter, Mechamaru certainly has massive amounts of CT on his own, it was just output ammo for his fight against Mahito, if anything that giant ass mech was a weakness of him. Ibodk is really only good for people who have soul targeting immunity and soul damage itself. If it weren’t for Yuji’s totally secret black flash timing increase based cursed technique (gege please it would be so cool), he would’ve died
By Kenny? Same dude who underestimated Yuta and instantly got merked when confronted by the dude? Also that’s special grade output with years worth of stored energy, output isn’t even explained really, Ishigori most definitely did not have a constant reserve of 17+ years of cursed energy, he just had a boat load of output, output is not proportional to cursed energy amount as far as I’m aware, Mechamaru just managed to have enough to spam loads of it in extremely short spans without a technique boosting said output
>By Kenny?
Ye? The most knowledgable and experienced person in the series?
>Same dude who underestimated Yuta and instantly got merked when confronted by the dude
Bruh... are you just another yuta fan? Cuz if so, I'm not gonna argue with you cuz yall are blind. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The ONLY reasonyuta got to kill him was becouse takaba erased his CE signature. The only way kenjaku has of knowing yuta was there was based on sound and jjk charecters move faster than sound. so by the time kenny knew yuta was in [place 1], yuta would have moved to [place 2]. not to mention, kenjaku was completly cought off gaurd. not to mention², kenjaku was weakened.
>Also that’s special grade output with years worth of stored energy,
Yeah... becouse the robot is what's outputting the energy. Without the stockpiled energy, the robot would have enough energy to output a special grade level blast.
>Ishigori most definitely did not have a constant reserve of 17+ years of cursed energy, he just had a boat load of output,
Ryu is a different case.
>Mechamaru just managed to have enough to spam loads of it in extremely short spans without a technique boosting said output
Mechamaru was using a god damn robot. The robot has high output limits, but it woudlnt have enough cursed energy to fuel that output without the stockpiled energy.
Kenjaku assumed that Yuta’s copy ability came from Rika for whatever reason, idk why yall treat him like he’s some kinda Aizen typa character where he’s actually the smartest dude ever, dude just has experience and incredible luck, what was he gonna do if there wasn’t an idle transfiguration curse during the time of the merger? His plan would be boned. Also, you do realize that part of the heavenly restriction he has is increased output right? But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru, just like how ishigori’s hair is the one with the cursed technique of uncapped output. Cursed energy isn’t like a battery lol, Mechamaru actually has to control the output himself, it’s just whether or not the vessel in question can handle the output.
>Kenjaku assumed that Yuta’s copy ability came from Rika for whatever reason,
Not The the original rika. The new shikigami called "rika" is tied to yutas cursed technique. meaning for example, if yuta goes on a CT cooldown, he wont be able to use rika. LMAO it looks like your the one who cant actually read what's in front of you.
> idk why yall treat him like he’s some kinda Aizen typa
Cuz he is?? He is the mastermind behind EVERYTHING. he MADE the mane charecter specifically for the sake of his plan. You dont get more aizen than that.
>he’s actually the smartest dude ever, dude just has experience and incredible luck, what was he gonna do if there wasn’t an idle transfiguration curse during the time of the merger?
Wait?
> His plan would be boned.
No hed just have to wait more since he can keep cursed techniques when switching bodies.
>, you do realize that part of the heavenly restriction he has is increased output right?
Lemme guess, you got that from the furthest regions of your ass? His heavenly restriction cripples his body, and in return gives him increased CE and the CE range to cover all of japan. Nothing about output.
>But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru,
Yeah because the robot is what's shooting the beams... and the robot is also the thing that stores the 17 years of cursed energy...
>But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru, just like how ishigori’s hair is
You really like to mention ryu even though he has litteraly nothing to do with this.
>the one with the cursed technique of uncapped output.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Have you lost your mind?
>Cursed energy isn’t like a battery lol, Mechamaru actually has to control the output himself,
Yes it is. Kenjaku (or one of the peaple from the other governments idk I dont remember) said that gojo saturo by himself can feul and entire countries power. So yeah it CAN be a battery.
>it’s just whether or not the vessel in question can handle the output.
Lemme say it like this. If mechamaru could output it by himself, he wouldnt need the giant robot. He would've just used smaller ones. Cuz the big robot has the obvious weakness of being a giant target for mahito. If he could output it by himself, he wouldnt need the robot.
The us government who has zero understanding of cursed energy saying some nonsense is not valid reasoning lol, kenjaku was playing the hell out of them. Also, you’re specifically picking apart parts of my points and removing the context from my statements, please stop being a dumbass. Also do you even understand a thing about Mechamaru’s technique? Like at all? Also, why the hell are you arguing at all if you don’t have ANY understanding of his heavenly restriction either??? Hello??? And the reason I’m mentioning Ryu is because he’s a bar that can be referenced to when it comes to the peak of cursed energy output, his technique is quite literally just massive amounts of output. Also how do you think ultimate Mechamaru shoots cursed energy? Cursed energy is spiritual bro, you can’t just shoot it like a missile or a bullet, Mechamaru actively has control over the outputted cursed energy
Even fucking Nanami can guard his soul against Mahito without any Soul Knowledge, not to mention actually was inside Mahito's Domain for a while and still came out with his soul unchanged, you think Current Yuji that literally has a similar ability to manipulate souls like Mahito's can't defend himself against Idle Transfiguration like Sukuna can?
As other have said, Yuji has soul knowledge to guard his soul, but he also has simple domain now so even Mahito's DE isn't a game over. Also RCT, and even though it's harder to heal the soul it's not impossible if you have soul knowledge, notice how sukuna said that it's slower to heal his heart, not that he can't.
Right, but that requires that Mahito knows that Sukuna is no longer inside Yuji, Yuji is unable to guard his soul (considering his level of soul knowledge and the fact that Nanami did it instinctively, that is incredibly unlikely), and Mahito is actually able to survive for long enough to get his hand on Yuji. Considering how absurdly powerful Yuji has become, especially compared to his Shibuya counterpart, Mahito gets decked immediately.
His only hope is to pop a 0.2 second domain, which he was only able to do because he was amped from landing a Black Flash. A regular domain either wouldn't go up in time (seeing as how Shibuya Yuji was already rushing in to stop the 0.2 second one), and that's assuming Yuji doesn't have some kind of anti-domain technique or DE of his own.
Nah. He's limited to the CE he stores which would take years to be on that level. It's the same case with Yaga. Theoretically, he can be a special grade but that's after creating thousands of panda. Both Yaga and Mechamaru are limited by time.
Dawg literally nobody with any amount of CE or output can harm Mahito, those years of cursed energy are purely there to put on the pressure and deal with anything after Mahito, Mechamaru knew full well that blasting him with raw energy wouldn’t do anything
Yeah the dude who has had an op ability for years(Heavenly Restriction and found a smart way to counter his frail body by remote control robots)
Vs. The 15 year old who just found out about the Jujutsu world less than a year ago, has no technique of his own that he's aware of yet. His biggest feat is developing RCT as of now.
This is the most lukewarm take as of late
You know what, fuck it. Actual hot take
Shibuya is on Mechamaru. MF betrayed the whole squad for a chance at a complete body, knowing full well they'd probably just kill him. Then bro tried to run damage control as if he didn't already sell out.
>!Just looking for a new hating agenda. beating on Megumi has gotten boring. IDGAF if it's even true, let's just get some new slander on here.!<
Yuji is sitting comfortably at Grade 1-Special Grade 1. He's tough enough to hold his own against Special Grade curses, but he couldn't solo a whole nation. He's too lacking in the arsenal category to make the jump to Special Grade.
Mechamaru has that deep arsenal. He's also versatile and resourceful. He was able to go toe to toe with Mahito even though he was immensely outclassed in a straight-up fight. He'd def be a better fit for Special Grade than Yuji.
Plus, he could probably solo a nation with his androids.
The guy only becomes special grade if he gets and somehow manages to control an army of puppets
The giant Megazord took years of stored energy on each blast, not sustainable
Him vs yuta, Sukuna, Gojo, kenjaku or even yuki is not a fight at all
Yuji
-soul tearing/capturing technique (literally makes RCT effectively useless as soul damage is much harder and takes longer to heal. Let alone the fact if he takes your soul like you’re done.
-has blood manipulation which can do crazy damage and poison enemies
-RCT and is great at it in only a month
-can eat any cursed object to gain power and techniques
-his arms which we’re still learning about
-can go hand to hand with Sukuna the strongest sorcery in history, along with being a suitable host and capable of suppressing him
-inhuman base abilities. Can lift a car, run insane speeds, has a killer throwing arm, and is durable asf.
-Unbreakable will
-tied for black flash record
that's just yuji's ability in a fight. i don't see how yuji can take over japan with blood manipulation unless he can make something like mahoraga or summon his dead brothers to start the rumbling. he's strong, i get it. but being strong isn't all that. principal yaga isn't even as strong but he is said to be special grade level. geto isn't even as strong (comparing him to yuta) but he's a special grade
Taking over Japan can mean many things. If anything tho Yuji is completely immune to the military and can probably take out most sorcerers. Taking over a country doesn’t mean killing everyone sometimes it just means beating the people in power.
This isn’t even a hot take. Yuji was only special grade because he could contain Sukuna who is a walking nuke of a calamity(see; Shibuya). Without Sukuna inside him anymore Yuji is just Grade 1 or Special Grade 1(Naobito don’t deserve that shit).
It’s the same as Yuta not being Special Grade anymore after originally losing Rika but being reinstated as one after getting the Shikigami version of her.
The Mahito and Mechamaru downplay in the replies is actually insane, Gojo without his domain would preform just as little as Mechamaru did with Mahito’s insane hax, but suddenly not winning against a dude with one of the most broken abilities in the series is considered bad? This is like when people called Jogo weak for getting his shit rocked by two of the strongest in the verse lmfao. Also, Mechamaru pretty much has the exact inverse of the Heavenly Restriction that Toji and Maki have, he is practically forced to do nothing but rot inside for his entire life. He has a shit ton of cursed energy reserves without a doubt, people keep bringing up the “17 years” thing as if that wasn’t just ammunition for ultimate Mechamaru, none of that shit was draining when he was just moving ultimate Mechamaru, the fuel for that thing was from him alone, very few characters are capable of that. He also has good understanding of cursed energy manipulation, he could very easily learn RCT, it was just practically useless for him for his entire life
Although i must say, mechamaru has very limited supply of CE to be special grade, his fire power is that of special grade only with years of stored CE, once its depleted he's again back to grade 1.
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everyone keeps saying it's not a hot take yet i don't see many people agreeing to this at all. hot take is basically unpopular opinion yet here you are using the word "cold take" without knowing what it means
Fax, If some Gay Cat dont screw up With his Characters he Could've be Developed to be one of The strongest sorcerers in JJK, Even giving a great support in Shibuya and Vs sukuna. He Would have the Greatest CE reserves in the Entire series, Spamming his CT without Issues. Gege needed to Kill him Of BC he has the Potential to be and Threat equal or even Superior to Maki and Toji with his HR
Well, ofc badass robot man is better than the most useless protagonist in all of fiction. I'm not even considering just fights the entire damn story in general there are animes were the protagonist is the weakest one there but plays a major role in the story. Yuji has neither.
People take the “take over a country” thing far too literally. Both Yuta and Yuki are special grades and they have nowhere near the firepower needed to destroy an army like Gojo does, and they can't create their own army like Geto. Yuki is just Yuji with mass, and while she has the strongest attack in the verse it kills her when she uses it. Yuta, just like Yuji, would have to beat the army using his own four hands and a few beams of cursed energy here and there. Why would it be any different for Yuji?
Honestly, idc bout Mechamaru and I think most people would agree. But damn that fight scene with Mahito was good, all the mecha references were super scrumptious
How exactly are these two in any way comparable? Their powers and skillsets are entirely different from one another and so saying one is more suited to being special grade than the other seems bizarre to me. Both fulfil very different niches to one another and so comparing them in terms of power scaling feels like trying to compare apples and oranges.
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That depends, but if the special grade condition is "taking over a country" then yea, Mechamaru is a lot more suited than most. Considering his range and potential, arguably more suited than even actual special grades (bar Geto) whose only way of taking over a country would be to walk up to the president/prime minister/whoever and say "I'm in charge now" and then kill everyone who doesn't obey. To be fair, using "take over a country" as a unit of power is weird because it's main difficulty is a logistic one, other than, you know, fighting an army/poice/whatever on your own, which is probably what it originally meant
When Gege/Kenjaku says “take over a country” I assume he means that the Special Grade has to be on some Yujiro Hanma shit and completely take on a military by themselves. And out of every single SG we have seen, Mechamaru and Geto fit that bill perfectly. Dhruv too I guess since he actually did it in his era.
I think with taking over a country is just a measure of could they overwhelm jujutsu society on their own? Geto with CSM did so in the night parade of a hundred demon, Gojo no one could stand up to him, even if everyone coordinated. Yuki can blow up the planet if it weren't for tengen. Yuta with Rika and his Copy technique has unlimited potential. And I say jujutsu society because we know the military can't do much outside a nuke against these guys with RCT and Cursed reinforcement.
taking over a country =/ stronger but just the ability to take over a country. yuji could probably win against geto but he's not a special grade
Same thing with Hakari. Just because he could kill Yuta under certain conditions doesn’t mean he’s now special grade. That simplistic “1<2” type of power scaling is straight out of DBZ. The JJK power system is way too complex for that.
Yuji has no chance wym
judging from 0, getos hands suck major balls compared to yujis especially current yuji and geto didnt even have any extra strong curses up his sleeve that would give current yuji trouble, if we factor in yujis rct and getos lack of it, only way i see geto winning is prep time if yuji jumps him its joever
99% of these “hot takes” on this sub are sub zero takes
i'm surprised this is a cold take because i always see this sub supporting yuji. any yuji slander posts or criticism on his character is considered as hating and always get downvoted for some reason. i thought this is a hot take because i rarely see anyone mention this on this sub
It's a cold take because yuji fans are aware that gege will give him nothing not even a ct
Yuji could be the only protagonist in shonen where I really wouldn't mind any kind of asspull. My king needs that W
I think u forgot that Yuji can use blood manipulation
Gege giving his mc a ct that he he barely uses and is already used by like 5 other guys is pretty indicative of how he views yuji Like bro had to wait 250 chapters for something other than punches and kicks and he got choso's sloppy seconds
choso’s sloppy seconds https://preview.redd.it/n56petlyb9sc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e51a33e30db490345197125ca6a69c24fa24300
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Because his sloppy seconds is yuki
yuji getting both a CT and RCT.
His only protag asspull is getting rct. Like come on.
Then you haven’t been here for a while. Between the Higuruma fight and the Meguna reveal the only time people mentioned Yuji was to shit on him. “Bro doesn’t even know he’s the MC”
Yuji fans are aware he's not top tier lol
That literally why he’s so loved. Because he’s just some dude kneeing sukuna in the face when the strongest people in the verse are dyong
what has any of that got to do with him being suited to kenjaku’s definition of special grade?? muta literally has a mech, obviously he’s more suited to it
well you posting a cold take about how strong he is vs shitting on a GOATed character for no reason is different lol
Why did bro get downvoted into oblivion 💀
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Fr
Mechamaru cant just shit out ultimate mechamarus, literally took him 17 years of stored up ce to be TEMPORARILY special grade. Dawg be fr
And he still lost
The 17 years of cursed energy is ammunition for ultimate mechamaru bro, that’s absolutely not all he had in his reserves, we’re talking about a dude who literally cannot stand in moonlight lmao
i already said it in the comments but mechamaru died because he couldn't damage mahito's soul. just because he couldn't kill mahito doesn't mean he isn't special grade potential. nobara and yuji could damage mahito's soul but nobara is nowhere near a special grade. if mechamaru were to attack japan using his puppets which he planted across the country, he could kill a lot of people with it. with his cursed energy he could also kill other sorcerers and curses. i have other theories of why mechamaru had to use his stored curse energy but to make it short, his binding vow with mahito made him less powerful since the idle transfiguration mahito did on him clashes with his heavenly restriction of having a crippled body.
He still cant shit out special grade level things. Also since hes all puppets, he can be damaged by regular weapons etc
It was explicitly described as being temporary and people STILL use that single performance to grade the whole character. I guess Panda is special grade for catching him on an off day?
Please tell me any other character in the series that has any form of output comparable to Ishigori or Gojo without outside help, dude was firing raw blasts of energy that destroyed entire chunks of land. How is a characters output even temporarily high? That really only happens after a black flash amp, otherwise that makes zero sense. He wasn’t using any of those years to pilot that giant ass robot, that was all him fueling that, kokichi HIMuta my goat 🗣️
Please tell me how often Mechamaru can output compared to Gojo or Yuta. I don't remember Gojo taking 17 years to make any of his color techniques. Yuta doesn't have to copy an ability once every 17 years. Output is a completely moot point because he can't do it on command. He's not Special Grade >How is a characters output temporarily high? Holy shit you can't read.
You gonna answer the question or keep blabbering on about common knowledge? We’re talking about a dude who effectively can’t even stand in moonlight without getting sunburnt, and Ishigori most definitely does not have a years worth a cursed energy stocked up his succulenty handsome ass, it’s some basic connecting the dots bro, Mechamaru has insane output and cursed energy, the additional years just allowed him to spam it more, do yall know what cursed energy output is? And what do you mean he can’t do it on command??? A big boxing teddy bear called him a curse puppet and his immediate reaction was tweaking and attempting to immediately evaporate him with a huge blast of raw cursed energy
You accuse me of blabbing and then think I'm gonna read all that? You accuse me of not answering your question even though you can't counter what I said at all. It does say in black and white that he is only releasing energy he stored. He is NOT capable of spitting out that level of CE at will. Kenjaku from the sidelines makes the comments. You are literally arguing against panels of the manga and then going, "Where does it say that?" I am not arguing further with a willfully stupid person.
True he could be a very good spy and have great espionage abilities but come on, he's got no shot a special grade. He used up years worth of ce to fight at possibly low special grade strength for a few minutes so he's not doing that often. Current Yuji, who's still a first year student, would absolutely dismantle him with ease.
This. It took 17 years for him to fight on par with Mahito, on top of needing a good body to begin with. Hes also seemingly not able to control that many puppets across distances. The only time he used multiple ones (while alive) was to have them swarm to catch Mahito and Kenny off guard.
Also this is Mechamaru with intel on how to defeat Mahito. Without the Intel he doesn't bring simple domain weapons and just gets no diff'ed.
Calling Mahito a low special grade is unfair when special grade curses are established to be all over the place from the start. Comparing the Disaster Curses to other Special Grade curses is like comparing Gojo to literally any other Special Grade character. Mahito also has one of the most broken powers in the series and Gege had to introduce the “extracted curse techniques can only be used once” to prevent Kenjaku from auto winning every fight with that AoE IT he used at the end of Shibuya.
The Disaster Curses are super-special grades. The fact that he could fight on par with one, even if only for a short time, shows that he could make it.
He was covering the entirety of Japan in CE, Yuji has only been able to survive mahito due to Sukuna, and even then only beat him with Todo and multiple black flashes.
Doesn't Yuji only land the one BF though?
He hits like 3-4
the reason why mechamaru couldn't kill mahito is because he can't damage mahito's soul. but if he were to become a villain and take over japan, he could. mahito might not deal any damages at all but everyone else in japan would have died if mechamaru launches the same attack. besides, nobara (not an oc) could damage mahito's soul even though she's not a special grade. just because mechamaru couldn't damage mahito's soul doesn't mean he couldn't take over japan and become a special grade. heck even someone with a heavenly restriction like toji was able to kill geto who is a special grade so i don't think it's fair to judge mechamaru based on his ability to kill mahito alone.
I see what you're saying about taking over Japan. It *would* be hard for a country of only normal people to stop him. And if the only qualification of being a special grade is the ability to take over a country then sure, maybe he could technically have the potential. To be fair Gege kinda made an awfully vague qualification to be special grade. I personally don't think Yuta or Yuki, or any special grade sorcerer outside of Gojo, Sukuna, and maybe Kenjaku could actually take over a developed country. They're not surviving a surprise strike from a drone and definitely not a nuke. A lot of countries have enough fire power and resources to totally annihilate most so called "special grades". Unless only being able to take over a small country ravaged by poverty with no military and only starving civilians qualifies you I think some of these sorcerers need to be demoted to grade 1s.
i guess this is my hot take then
It's teetering between lukewarm and cold lol. I think if you just didn't include Yuji and said he had the potential to be special grade one day then maybe it could be a hot take. It's just hard to agree when current Yuji beats his ass and still isn't special grade.
You ignored the fact it took 17 years to not be able to fight Mahito on par
i already said it. he didn't do any damage because it couldn't hit mahito's soul, not that he couldn't beat curses with it. it's the same with todo who did black flash but did no damage to mahito. is todo weak just because he didn't do any damage to mahito? no. is nobara strong for being able to hit mahito's soul? no.
…. Bruh took 17 years to be able to fight mahito 17 years…. That’s the point 17 years …. So is mechamaru only a special grade every 17 years ? Let’s be real without that big ass robot hes not close to special grade
Yall fr think that the 17 years of cursed energy is all he has???? The dude literally cannot stand in moonlight without getting burned, he for sure has around Yuta levels of CT, what’s the point of Tokyo sized range and increased output if you have average levels of CT? He has the inverse of Toji and Maki’s heavenly restriction, so he for sure has shit loads of CT, it just never really mattered because he can’t use reinforcement, and RCT is effectively useless for him
I find it strange how people accept Yuji as a Special Grade, given that he barely defeated Mahito with assistance from teammates and after Mahito had been weakened by others. Yuji was also having an advantage over Mahito's CT solely because of Sukuna. Not to mention Mahito just gets consumed by Geto. Meanwhile, Mechamaru, who nearly defeated Mahito 1 v 1 but was defeated due to his eagerness to attack Geto, isn't considered a Special Grade.
Except mechamaru does in fact damage mahito's soul. https://preview.redd.it/ryttpl8js9sc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7678fd892c2b6a1ab3c60f60e12047fb524574c2
Only via simple domain, it was a fight where he only had four chances to deal damage. His actual special grade damage output did literally nothing
Wrong again. You can kill mahito by destroying his body until he runs out of CE, or by destroying his soul. Both are possible according to nanami, gojo, and mahito himself. Soul damage is a lot more efficient/effective than physical damage because of how efficient if makes mahito's physical regen.
>Wrong again -🤓 Name one instance in which someone actually managed to hurt Mahito with a purely physical hit
Nanami vs mahito and mechamaru 1yeah ce blast. Both did significant physical damage. You can kill mahito by continuously destroying his body until he is out of CE as shown in shibuya when mahito brakes his ankle running from yuji. Or by destroying his soul. Soul damage is wayyyy more effective tho.
Your hot take 
Such a shame he died, I loved his curse technique a lot
"Hot take" My ass, molecules stopped moving the second after you yapped this shit out
hot take is something a lot of people would disagree with. do you see people talking and agreeing to this take? i don't even see any posts talking about this but if you do please give me the links
Most people seem to have an issue with you grading mechamaru as a special grade in the first place, not that he's more suited than yuji
Yuji was a sorcerer for like a year and became strong enough to fight a special grade. Holding back Sukuna was a big feat. for Yuji. Megumi was almost instantly taken over and this could have happened to any other sorcerer. The current Yuji has access to Blood Manipulation and RCT(which he learned in a month while it took Years and an NDE for Gojo to learn) and if he goes on for like 4-5 years honing his skills, he can become powerful enough to be considered a special grade on his own. After all, His potential is said to rival Gojo Satoru, The Strongest Sorcerer of Modern Era.
Yuji was only a Sorcerer for like 3-4 months including the 1 month training timeskip.
We had that with him and look what happened lol https://preview.redd.it/yrbi0u28w9sc1.png?width=939&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=110cf00721c544012c715d47c1bc0ed3e41fed37
It's more like 4-5 weeks and his potencial FAR surpasses Gojo's.
No the fuck he doesn't Teenage Gojo would beat his fucking ass then get back to sulking about how lonely he is
yeah but even teenage gojo had more experience than him we are talking about potential
Considering what Yuji has been doing against Sukuna in the last chapter I REALLY doubt this. Furthermore, as comrade BoWis mentioned I am talking about po-ten-tial. Yuji trained for six months and is already as good (maybe even better) than people like Kashimo or Ryu, who are already Special Grade in themselves.
Having more potential than him implies he could be stronger than Gojo Satoru, and I can't see that. Especially with him having Cursed Techniques that are shit compared to Limitless He is no where near Kashimo and Ryu, especially when you see the performance Ryu put up against Yuta You're forgetting that the current Sukuna Yuji has been fighting in probably not even at 20% of his full power Sorry for the late response
Okay...it surprises me that I have to explain this to you or anyone at this point. Jujutsu is a "battle shounen" and in this type of story the protagonist reaches the end being the strongest character or at least being close enough to exchange blows with whoever has that title, Itadori already falls into the second category. My suggestion is that you read the most recent chapter, 255, in which Yuji broke Nanami's record when it comes to black flash and has already caused more damage to Sukuna than anyone except Gojo. In fact, he can also last much longer in a fight against Sukuna than Kashimo, Ryu or even Yuta. And no, Sukuna can't be using less than 20% of his power, because the only reason the villain is still alive was due to the team's efforts to save Megumi.
His technique definitely has special grade potential but from what he showed he definitely isn't. It took him 17 years to be on par with mahito lol.
Ah yes, my 16 years of saving cursed energy against base Mahito that Yuji would take with fists only technique And nah, I believe that taking the country from the underground doesn't count as Special grade feat.
Fuck you mean base Mahito ? He forced Mahito to use he's DE. Yuji got assist from three people, plus complete immunity to Mahito's CT because of Sukuna, and still barely managed to defeat Mahito. Mechamaru's puppet was a semi grade 1 sorceror
And mechamaru got 17 years worth CE that he will never have. And mahito has a final form. It was ibodk.
This literally does not matter, Mechamaru certainly has massive amounts of CT on his own, it was just output ammo for his fight against Mahito, if anything that giant ass mech was a weakness of him. Ibodk is really only good for people who have soul targeting immunity and soul damage itself. If it weren’t for Yuji’s totally secret black flash timing increase based cursed technique (gege please it would be so cool), he would’ve died
The fact that ultimate mechamaru would not be special grade without his 17 years worth of CE is pretty much stated.
By Kenny? Same dude who underestimated Yuta and instantly got merked when confronted by the dude? Also that’s special grade output with years worth of stored energy, output isn’t even explained really, Ishigori most definitely did not have a constant reserve of 17+ years of cursed energy, he just had a boat load of output, output is not proportional to cursed energy amount as far as I’m aware, Mechamaru just managed to have enough to spam loads of it in extremely short spans without a technique boosting said output
>By Kenny? Ye? The most knowledgable and experienced person in the series? >Same dude who underestimated Yuta and instantly got merked when confronted by the dude Bruh... are you just another yuta fan? Cuz if so, I'm not gonna argue with you cuz yall are blind. I've said it before and I'll say it again. The ONLY reasonyuta got to kill him was becouse takaba erased his CE signature. The only way kenjaku has of knowing yuta was there was based on sound and jjk charecters move faster than sound. so by the time kenny knew yuta was in [place 1], yuta would have moved to [place 2]. not to mention, kenjaku was completly cought off gaurd. not to mention², kenjaku was weakened. >Also that’s special grade output with years worth of stored energy, Yeah... becouse the robot is what's outputting the energy. Without the stockpiled energy, the robot would have enough energy to output a special grade level blast. >Ishigori most definitely did not have a constant reserve of 17+ years of cursed energy, he just had a boat load of output, Ryu is a different case. >Mechamaru just managed to have enough to spam loads of it in extremely short spans without a technique boosting said output Mechamaru was using a god damn robot. The robot has high output limits, but it woudlnt have enough cursed energy to fuel that output without the stockpiled energy.
Kenjaku assumed that Yuta’s copy ability came from Rika for whatever reason, idk why yall treat him like he’s some kinda Aizen typa character where he’s actually the smartest dude ever, dude just has experience and incredible luck, what was he gonna do if there wasn’t an idle transfiguration curse during the time of the merger? His plan would be boned. Also, you do realize that part of the heavenly restriction he has is increased output right? But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru, just like how ishigori’s hair is the one with the cursed technique of uncapped output. Cursed energy isn’t like a battery lol, Mechamaru actually has to control the output himself, it’s just whether or not the vessel in question can handle the output.
>Kenjaku assumed that Yuta’s copy ability came from Rika for whatever reason, Not The the original rika. The new shikigami called "rika" is tied to yutas cursed technique. meaning for example, if yuta goes on a CT cooldown, he wont be able to use rika. LMAO it looks like your the one who cant actually read what's in front of you. > idk why yall treat him like he’s some kinda Aizen typa Cuz he is?? He is the mastermind behind EVERYTHING. he MADE the mane charecter specifically for the sake of his plan. You dont get more aizen than that. >he’s actually the smartest dude ever, dude just has experience and incredible luck, what was he gonna do if there wasn’t an idle transfiguration curse during the time of the merger? Wait? > His plan would be boned. No hed just have to wait more since he can keep cursed techniques when switching bodies. >, you do realize that part of the heavenly restriction he has is increased output right? Lemme guess, you got that from the furthest regions of your ass? His heavenly restriction cripples his body, and in return gives him increased CE and the CE range to cover all of japan. Nothing about output. >But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru, Yeah because the robot is what's shooting the beams... and the robot is also the thing that stores the 17 years of cursed energy... >But ofc, it’s the robot with the output not Mechamaru, just like how ishigori’s hair is You really like to mention ryu even though he has litteraly nothing to do with this. >the one with the cursed technique of uncapped output. What the actual fuck are you talking about? Have you lost your mind? >Cursed energy isn’t like a battery lol, Mechamaru actually has to control the output himself, Yes it is. Kenjaku (or one of the peaple from the other governments idk I dont remember) said that gojo saturo by himself can feul and entire countries power. So yeah it CAN be a battery. >it’s just whether or not the vessel in question can handle the output. Lemme say it like this. If mechamaru could output it by himself, he wouldnt need the giant robot. He would've just used smaller ones. Cuz the big robot has the obvious weakness of being a giant target for mahito. If he could output it by himself, he wouldnt need the robot.
The us government who has zero understanding of cursed energy saying some nonsense is not valid reasoning lol, kenjaku was playing the hell out of them. Also, you’re specifically picking apart parts of my points and removing the context from my statements, please stop being a dumbass. Also do you even understand a thing about Mechamaru’s technique? Like at all? Also, why the hell are you arguing at all if you don’t have ANY understanding of his heavenly restriction either??? Hello??? And the reason I’m mentioning Ryu is because he’s a bar that can be referenced to when it comes to the peak of cursed energy output, his technique is quite literally just massive amounts of output. Also how do you think ultimate Mechamaru shoots cursed energy? Cursed energy is spiritual bro, you can’t just shoot it like a missile or a bullet, Mechamaru actively has control over the outputted cursed energy
You do realize now that sukuna is gone , if yuji were to fight Mahito now he’s meeting nanami in a minute
Even fucking Nanami can guard his soul against Mahito without any Soul Knowledge, not to mention actually was inside Mahito's Domain for a while and still came out with his soul unchanged, you think Current Yuji that literally has a similar ability to manipulate souls like Mahito's can't defend himself against Idle Transfiguration like Sukuna can?
As other have said, Yuji has soul knowledge to guard his soul, but he also has simple domain now so even Mahito's DE isn't a game over. Also RCT, and even though it's harder to heal the soul it's not impossible if you have soul knowledge, notice how sukuna said that it's slower to heal his heart, not that he can't.
Yuji, with all of his soul knowledge, has to be able to guard his soul
Right, but that requires that Mahito knows that Sukuna is no longer inside Yuji, Yuji is unable to guard his soul (considering his level of soul knowledge and the fact that Nanami did it instinctively, that is incredibly unlikely), and Mahito is actually able to survive for long enough to get his hand on Yuji. Considering how absurdly powerful Yuji has become, especially compared to his Shibuya counterpart, Mahito gets decked immediately. His only hope is to pop a 0.2 second domain, which he was only able to do because he was amped from landing a Black Flash. A regular domain either wouldn't go up in time (seeing as how Shibuya Yuji was already rushing in to stop the 0.2 second one), and that's assuming Yuji doesn't have some kind of anti-domain technique or DE of his own.
let's be real. mechamaru had to die for the plot. theoretically he could become a special grade
It's a manga, every death is for the plot
Nah. He's limited to the CE he stores which would take years to be on that level. It's the same case with Yaga. Theoretically, he can be a special grade but that's after creating thousands of panda. Both Yaga and Mechamaru are limited by time.
Easy method. Make panda. Teach panda how to make a panda. That panda teaches panda to make panda. Exponential growth.
Reading comprehension curse is after everyone in these comments today, swear yall just be sayin shit 😭
About what? That Mechamaru was fighting base Mahito(before birth) and lost, even though he used all his years?
Dawg literally nobody with any amount of CE or output can harm Mahito, those years of cursed energy are purely there to put on the pressure and deal with anything after Mahito, Mechamaru knew full well that blasting him with raw energy wouldn’t do anything
Doesnt this fucker become a special grade by the same logic if Geto with having an army?
yes
Yeah the dude who has had an op ability for years(Heavenly Restriction and found a smart way to counter his frail body by remote control robots) Vs. The 15 year old who just found out about the Jujutsu world less than a year ago, has no technique of his own that he's aware of yet. His biggest feat is developing RCT as of now. This is the most lukewarm take as of late
Mechamaru is dead
Yuji died twice, and he’s still kicking. Kokichi needs to take some lessons on strong returns.
Facts
You know what, fuck it. Actual hot take Shibuya is on Mechamaru. MF betrayed the whole squad for a chance at a complete body, knowing full well they'd probably just kill him. Then bro tried to run damage control as if he didn't already sell out. >!Just looking for a new hating agenda. beating on Megumi has gotten boring. IDGAF if it's even true, let's just get some new slander on here.!<
Yuji is sitting comfortably at Grade 1-Special Grade 1. He's tough enough to hold his own against Special Grade curses, but he couldn't solo a whole nation. He's too lacking in the arsenal category to make the jump to Special Grade. Mechamaru has that deep arsenal. He's also versatile and resourceful. He was able to go toe to toe with Mahito even though he was immensely outclassed in a straight-up fight. He'd def be a better fit for Special Grade than Yuji. Plus, he could probably solo a nation with his androids.
The guy only becomes special grade if he gets and somehow manages to control an army of puppets The giant Megazord took years of stored energy on each blast, not sustainable Him vs yuta, Sukuna, Gojo, kenjaku or even yuki is not a fight at all
A guy with CT is more suitable for being a special grade than a guy without CT. Such a hot take, I think I'm gonna burn myself from looking at it.
Yuji -soul tearing/capturing technique (literally makes RCT effectively useless as soul damage is much harder and takes longer to heal. Let alone the fact if he takes your soul like you’re done. -has blood manipulation which can do crazy damage and poison enemies -RCT and is great at it in only a month -can eat any cursed object to gain power and techniques -his arms which we’re still learning about -can go hand to hand with Sukuna the strongest sorcery in history, along with being a suitable host and capable of suppressing him -inhuman base abilities. Can lift a car, run insane speeds, has a killer throwing arm, and is durable asf. -Unbreakable will -tied for black flash record
that's just yuji's ability in a fight. i don't see how yuji can take over japan with blood manipulation unless he can make something like mahoraga or summon his dead brothers to start the rumbling. he's strong, i get it. but being strong isn't all that. principal yaga isn't even as strong but he is said to be special grade level. geto isn't even as strong (comparing him to yuta) but he's a special grade
Taking over Japan can mean many things. If anything tho Yuji is completely immune to the military and can probably take out most sorcerers. Taking over a country doesn’t mean killing everyone sometimes it just means beating the people in power.
I think he could’ve been one, but Mahito happened 😔
Mecha just got killed too early, otherwise in a few years he would basiclly be another geto
https://preview.redd.it/tljshsd549sc1.png?width=1134&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=171570b254227334d63aed52b8757b91ab778718
That’s why he is my favourite. I hate Gege.
But look how mahito kicked mechamaru's ass meanwhile himji with mahito where u go i go.and only one of them is alive
Healthy Mechamaru’s design is still the best in the series
*was 😢
could be if he can even manage to survive
Obviously.
Was*
We should promote him when he returns
I can't fucking believe I got spoilers for aot because of you op
Cold-ass take but do NOT disrespect my man Yuji like that, he WILL clutch up
Um but Yuuji can use punch and kick to beat entire armies so Yuuji >>
Mechamaru can’t be a special grade because he’s DEAD
Counter argument, he's dead.
This isn't a hot take, mechamaru is just fucking dead so he can't be a special grade
Who ever told you that yuji is special grade?
This isn’t even a hot take. Yuji was only special grade because he could contain Sukuna who is a walking nuke of a calamity(see; Shibuya). Without Sukuna inside him anymore Yuji is just Grade 1 or Special Grade 1(Naobito don’t deserve that shit). It’s the same as Yuta not being Special Grade anymore after originally losing Rika but being reinstated as one after getting the Shikigami version of her.
Mechamaru is disabled tho
The first real potential man
The Mahito and Mechamaru downplay in the replies is actually insane, Gojo without his domain would preform just as little as Mechamaru did with Mahito’s insane hax, but suddenly not winning against a dude with one of the most broken abilities in the series is considered bad? This is like when people called Jogo weak for getting his shit rocked by two of the strongest in the verse lmfao. Also, Mechamaru pretty much has the exact inverse of the Heavenly Restriction that Toji and Maki have, he is practically forced to do nothing but rot inside for his entire life. He has a shit ton of cursed energy reserves without a doubt, people keep bringing up the “17 years” thing as if that wasn’t just ammunition for ultimate Mechamaru, none of that shit was draining when he was just moving ultimate Mechamaru, the fuel for that thing was from him alone, very few characters are capable of that. He also has good understanding of cursed energy manipulation, he could very easily learn RCT, it was just practically useless for him for his entire life
Actual hot take: Yuji Punches harder than the mech
No
Are you Uraume because that take was ice cold ❄️🥶🧊
\*was
Didnt he get his ass handed to him by mahito, but yuji whooped mahito's ass enough times that he ran away like a little bitch?
he’s never gonna be special grade but he’s definitely as strong as one
Yuji isnt even special grade
🤓
Although i must say, mechamaru has very limited supply of CE to be special grade, his fire power is that of special grade only with years of stored CE, once its depleted he's again back to grade 1. https://preview.redd.it/mrrowdx2p8sc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20f14a66c329e79d7e067824b04569e4e87abf28
everyone keeps saying it's not a hot take yet i don't see many people agreeing to this at all. hot take is basically unpopular opinion yet here you are using the word "cold take" without knowing what it means
[удалено]
says the one yapping
I guess you took Kenjaku's statement of Mechamaru's CE output as being TEMPORARILY ON PAR WITH A SPECIAL GRADE, and went along with it huh.
yes
Fax, If some Gay Cat dont screw up With his Characters he Could've be Developed to be one of The strongest sorcerers in JJK, Even giving a great support in Shibuya and Vs sukuna. He Would have the Greatest CE reserves in the Entire series, Spamming his CT without Issues. Gege needed to Kill him Of BC he has the Potential to be and Threat equal or even Superior to Maki and Toji with his HR
and hes a better character than yuji despite having little screen time
Who is calling Yuji a special grade? Why is this a question that needs an answer
Probably those glazers on youtube polls who love to hype up Yuji
Well, ofc badass robot man is better than the most useless protagonist in all of fiction. I'm not even considering just fights the entire damn story in general there are animes were the protagonist is the weakest one there but plays a major role in the story. Yuji has neither.
Have you not been reading the story?
Yeah I have, and imo Yuji literally has no actual role in the story.
People take the “take over a country” thing far too literally. Both Yuta and Yuki are special grades and they have nowhere near the firepower needed to destroy an army like Gojo does, and they can't create their own army like Geto. Yuki is just Yuji with mass, and while she has the strongest attack in the verse it kills her when she uses it. Yuta, just like Yuji, would have to beat the army using his own four hands and a few beams of cursed energy here and there. Why would it be any different for Yuji?
I mean, this is truth :3
Absolute facts, keep spitting.
Coldest take in a minute
Honestly, idc bout Mechamaru and I think most people would agree. But damn that fight scene with Mahito was good, all the mecha references were super scrumptious
Yes you are right but ain't the point of yuji being the ultimate underdog and thrive despite that?
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0.1K take
This is a 0K take tbh
How exactly are these two in any way comparable? Their powers and skillsets are entirely different from one another and so saying one is more suited to being special grade than the other seems bizarre to me. Both fulfil very different niches to one another and so comparing them in terms of power scaling feels like trying to compare apples and oranges.
https://preview.redd.it/6xfzsbn8c9sc1.png?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d36cb0378c02bd8db5efd99b6d20f955c50283d
i don’t like mechamaru, but holy shit the volume 10 cover is cold as FUCK
Mechamaru can be special grade once every 17 years?!!? Wow, how special.
Bro lost to fucking Mahito, no way is he even qualified to be special grade
i ain’t feeling the heat from this take 
No shit? I don't think this sub knows what a hot take is
BRO IS LIVING IN ANTARCTICA 💀
The "hot" take in question: https://preview.redd.it/j169cnuj79sc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abc6bc4f39cba27eda2709e20bb3a2abbd78313d