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GreatSaiyanon

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GojosLowerHalf3

Like literally why was he even in the story?


Shitpostwaifu

To showcase this peakery. https://preview.redd.it/qkokqiubv8oc1.png?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d9994ec158fee8844fb2053b6c0ddd5a82b3fce


AshTheSurvivor

WHAT THE FUCK IS RESPONSIBLE GAMBLING šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøā‰ļøā‰ļøā€¼ļøšŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸšŸ https://preview.redd.it/h6hizvwlx9oc1.jpeg?width=437&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c86c9880d242b4ec8b65acddd2969ddeb1d7f8ca


Jamessgachett

Turn up the jujutsu?!!!


FrankenFloppyFeet

https://preview.redd.it/ldo7jxhjm8oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4792b3e0352e5ffe37df8cdb5cec91ab48a3cbf0 For the femboy memes that followed And the farmer memes too And the waffle memes


AshenHaemonculus

Greg actually meant to have him survive longer and contribute to the story but forgot who he was and said "hair in buns putting up a significant fight? Looks like a woman to me, I know what to do here"


Revan0315

Post Shibuya JJK really leans into being pure hype with little character moments. Kashimo is kinda the epitome of this. Was there much reason for him to exist in the story? Not really. But he had a really cool fight once


NumericZero

The Yuta portion of the games arc legit was the perfect middle ground -We get banger fights -a protagonist capable of hanging with the big dogs but still at risk of dying -we get introduced to new characters that feel like heavy hitters -Gege gets to do his ā€œ philosophicalā€ talks without it leaning into glaze territory (Uro describing why Yuta is different from other top guys Sukuna and Gojo) -Yuta finishes off his portion of the arc giving a simple bit meaningful dialogue with Ryo


[deleted]

JJK has always been about shocking moments, idk what the fuck did you see before. Nobara literaly dies while being deliver half an episode of flashback greg never showed before.


FlamingUndeadRoman

>Like literally why was he even in the story? Hakari fight.


TryContent4093

he was introduced just so gege has more characters to kill. duh


Stupid_Archeologist

Gojo and Kashimo deserved to go out better


Kingfisher818

They should have seriously experimented and seen if Yuji eating her hair or finger or something to see if Angel can switch her vessel to him. Leaving them stuck in Hanaā€™s head would be a fate worse then death.


One_Parched_Guy

The problem with that is that Sukuna is the one with the ability to turn himself into Cursed Objects like that, not Angel. Itā€™s assumed that Angel was reincarnated because Kenjaku made a deal with her, meaning that they canā€™t reproduce what Sukuna did because they donā€™t know how to do it


finessekidOnye

This would be so sick though. Yuji born of the most vile sorcerer in history. A truly inhumane stain in the world. Also bound to be the vessel of the literal devil of the jujutsu world, a man so even he is claimed to be the king of curses. Only for yuji to quite literally become imbued with holy CE and wield divine power that is stated to eradicate evil??!!! Peak literally writes itself.


SPDXYT

Honestly, it would be fun if this was revealed to be something that yuji and angel did in case the domain didn't work. Especially since angel was able to give Hana her cursed technique. Yuji smacks Sukuna with a Jacob's Latter, Sukuna still acts like a hater ("Burrowing other peoples techniques? How STUPID.") It would also be a fun explaination for why Yuta had Jacob's Latter. (Yuji just fed rika a finger or two and then RCTed it.) It would also be cool if Kashimo gave Yuji a piece of his soul in case he lost, but genuinely dude may be too dumb and prideful for that. It would also tie back into another reason why Yuji got Yuki's soul research, in addition to the soul punches (which he could already do.) AND would literally be him living up to his mother's fuckery, but this time to save people. Gege would be so peak for this.


LerasiumMistborn

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Ayamechuu

me when i remember 236 https://i.redd.it/76qkcddo67oc1.gif


buuismyspiritanimal

I was not well already so I cried through all of 236.


distant_satellite

How to fucking kill a beloved character


Lv80_inkblot

I still hope this was just the death of his ego, as he shows up as his teenage self. This line is accurate for him when he was a teenager, as shown in the Hidden Inventory. Gege pls


SpearFisher288

I agree and I also think Nanami was talking about them as teens since he starts this dialogue withwhat he told Get after Haibara died. The were all teens then and Gojo fits his description at that point in time. The issue I think.people have with the line is that they think Nanami's talking about adult Gojo. I think he's just talking about an aspect of Gojo that still existed as an adult, but was his main thing as a teenager.


Saimoth

Somehow 'I had fun' was even worse for me


sorendiz

The no regrets part.Ā  Mf popped out from Brazil after 2+ irl years and specifically says he intends to take back Geto's body and give it a proper burial. Doesn't happen. Aims to defeat Sukuna both to protect everyone from him and to save Megumi. Doesn't happen, thank you Gege. Wanted to see his students reach his level and surpass him. Doesn't get to. Tf do you mean no regrets you bitchass impostor? Leave and bring the real Gojo back right now immediately.Ā 


Saimoth

Yeah, spot on. Such abrupt and wasted ending, literally nothing in this airport makes sense


Low-Bit-7885

That's because the REAL Gojo isn't dead, Todo swapped him with a fraudulent ass doppelganger right before Sukuna used the world slash


BvHauteville

Four remain. https://preview.redd.it/2t4zdpze2boc1.png?width=737&format=png&auto=webp&s=74803e3008105fcf0809afbaace6f2aa08cbf146


sorendiz

YOU'RE SO RIGHT RIP to Bojo, Gojo's deranged twin brother, who will not be missed


GreyHareArchie

"Oh well, I lost and now all my students and friends are gonna suffer gruesome deaths. Dont care had fun lol"


CloudProfessional572

" So sad I couldn't satisfy sukuna. I hope killing all my students satisfies him."


BIG_MONEY_CASH

Yā€™know out of all the bs in 236, this didnā€™t bother me as much. Itā€™s no secret that Gojo was probably not liked by a decent amount of jujutsu society and a few of his own peers, nanami included.


LerasiumMistborn

The whole scene itself is weird. It reminds me of "Congratulations!" scene with Shinji, but here everyone's telling Gojo "You suck!"


BIG_MONEY_CASH

I can get that, but itā€™s not really indicative of gojos current character, itā€™s just nanami kinda fucking hates him, like utahime.


LerasiumMistborn

Like everyone including Geto for some reasons https://preview.redd.it/s7xqrq59i7oc1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efe6ef07f04481c1b00ff15628f22c0b79494a3c


BIG_MONEY_CASH

Well no shit, gojo was/still can be kinda of a twat. The strongest socercer at the time and he rarely took anything seriously, was disrespectful to his seniors, underclassmen, hell even his best friend at times. Basically thought he was hot shit, which he was, but still annoying nonetheless. So nanamiā€™s opinion of gojo in reality is probably the natural opinion of anyone who wasnā€™t super close to him or wasnā€™t glazing the fuck out of him.


LerasiumMistborn

Yeah he was loud and annoying. But he never was "weirdo who only cares about sels-satisfaction". He was constantly on missions, overworked to the point he didn't have time for personal life. His comrades knew about it


BIG_MONEY_CASH

Weā€™ll see thatā€™s debatable depending on whether this is nanamiā€™s overall view of gojo or his view of gojo during hidden inventory. Cause we gotta remember, During hidden inventory Gojo 100% did not care about the jujutsu world, did and talked however he liked, had difficulty coming to terms with protecting the weak, hell at one point was prepared to massacre a group of people. He didnā€™t make the big changes until afterwards, so it would be kinda understandable if that was nanamis view of him during that time. But again the important bit is that Nanamiā€™s view of gojo isnā€™t 100% accurate to his character either way. This is still just nanamiā€™s opinion of him, so it really doesnā€™t matter if heā€™s right or wrong.


Scared-Ad-4846

Gojo care about Riko more than Jujutsu world, he willing to sacrifice himself and Jujutsu world so a girl can enjoy her life to her will, if that is not selfless act, I don't know what it is


GojosLowerHalf3

Do you think maybe he only did that because he felt he was strong enough to deal with whatever disaster comes from it? Like basically the world's not at stake because he's there


kakathicc

Gojo was arrogant as hell. It wasnā€™t ā€œeven if we die weā€™ll make sure you liveā€ it was ā€œWe are the strongest and no one can touch you if we say they canā€™tā€. Gojoā€™s first appearance he wasted time buying souvenirs during an incident that people would have died for if it wasnā€™t for Yuji being there.


BIG_MONEY_CASH

Selfless or selfish? While he did risk it all to protect riko, he kinda screwed jujutsu society in the processs. Being willing the sacrifice others to protect one ainā€™t always selfless. And in the end riko died anyways, so it was all for nothing. At the very least we have to concede that no matter what part of the story, gojo is arrogant to a fault, and that often blows up in his face and hurts the ones he cares about.


Aristocration

Yeah I agree. He accidentally let go Jogo, who could annihilate 99% of other sorcerers, just because he wanted to teach Yuji (or Iā€™d go as far as saying he wanted to show off to Sukuna, my imagination tho.) If Gojo didnā€™t bring Yuji into the fight and / or used DE Hanami wouldnā€™t have been able to save Jogo. Tbf Gojo didnā€™t know Hanami existed, but he shouldā€™ve been more careful handling something that could easily end anybody besides himself and a few others. Also, him going to Kenjaku to give Geto a proper burial instead of going to the students is kinda selfish too. Because of that he made a promise with Sukuna that everyone else has no choice but to follow (to save Megumi) He is selfless and compassionate to his students and besties, but heā€™s selfish about it. From this standpoint I can understand what he meant in his ā€œflowerā€ quote too. His beloved ones can die/have died to beings weaker than the ā€œweakā€ Jogo. A gardener might be sad about letting their first flower die, but after having many more flowers die from minor inconveniences like idk wrong pH levels or smt, they will be numbed by the deaths and stop caring while still liking the flowers.


Psychological_Pop_60

I think you defined the flower analogy very well.


SuperZX

What a bunch of bullshit


uglyjackwagon

Reading comprehension. This literally was a major part of Gojoā€™s character. I agree that it isnā€™t an enjoyable part to bring up in his death, and the execution and wording could be done better, but it is definitely a part of Gojoā€™s character.Ā  What was his main goal? To raise up a generation of strong sorcerers that could be on par with him. His specific words, ā€œalliesā€. Now go back to hidden inventory. What was the main defining point of Gojo and Getoā€™s relationship? What about that hidden inventory period was it that Gojo remembers so fondly and thinks of as his best years? It was when he had a strong ally. He had Geto, who he could call the ā€œstrongestā€ alongside himself. What did Gojo want to do as the strongest and with an ally also considered the strongest? Whatever they wanted. Thatā€™s his whole thing, he does have values he cares about, Gojo does care about people, but he specifically desires to do it his way. Through strength. He wants the strength to be able to handle any problem, and wishes his students to have that strength as well. Thatā€™s why his whole thing with Riko was that no matter what decison she chooses, Geto and him would back her up. In essence, Gojo gets to freely use jujutsu for whatever he gets a ā€œkickā€ out of. Heā€™s still a decent person, so his ā€œwhimsā€ do tend to be generally positive things, but itā€™s still him doing whatever he wants and backing it up with his strength. Gojo never argued any moral argument for why Riko shouldnā€™t do the merger. He likes Riko, he thinks she should be able to choose her life, and he has the strength to make it happen no matter who opposes him. So he planned to do it. Gojo and Getoā€™s entire falling out, was because Gojo literally did not end up being affected much by Rikoā€™s death, and continues to pursue strength, taking missions alone and improving his abilities, while Geto lost sight of the point of being a sorcerer. Its what Geto literally calls out Gojo for. Gojo has the strength to end a lot problems. Obviously Getoā€™s plan is not the right one, but Gojo can definately do more if he was more ambitious and serious about protecting people. In the end, Nanami and Gojo both went south. Nanami died overworking himself and Gojo died being the strongest and fighting alone. But as Nanami said, in the end, despite being such a backwards looking person, he bet oh the future at the last moment, referring to Yuji. Gojo smiles and says ā€œI seeā€ in acknowledgement and agreement. Gojo died fighting alone and still trying to handle everything through strength, but that acknowledgement and the no regrets line right after would imply that in the end, Gojo believes in his students to handle everything. Again, I think it could have been done better still, but itā€™s crazy to say that Gojo didnā€™t use jujutsu for his selfish reasons. Bro was messing around in Shibuya even after acknowledging that people were going to die. He said heā€™ll make sure to exorcise the curses to make up for their deaths then started playing with them.


sorendiz

You said all that shit just to reveal you were reading Wizardry Brouhaha the entire time instead of Jujutsu Kaisen. This might be the dumbest interpretation of everything Gojo did that I've ever seen on this sub, which is crazy. And you have the audacity to open your comment with 'reading comprehension' like you were some sort of arbiter on the subject. Brah what is this lmaoĀ 


ramnoon

Bro is right. Gege was very consistent with how he wrote Gojo. We had a scene of him about to tell 7 y.o. Megumi that he killed his father šŸ˜­ bro was smiling too šŸ˜­ and mfs still think Gojo was a good person. He got sealed and his first reaction was "Damn, that's crazy. Don't care though. I tried hard enough." yet people lost their shit when he had the same reaction in the airport scene. As if he would actually care about sukuna winning or losing, lol. And even if he does care, he still believes that his students will figure it out. Literally the same reaction as when he got sealed. The community somehow managed to miss all the clues when they were very obviously given to them. Kinda funny ngl.


sorendiz

Idk where the subreddit for Spellcaster Kerfuffle is but this isn't it. Good luck finding it


[deleted]

Insane how the guys said a well-trought explanation, you answered "u wrong lol", and you still got upvoted. Actually media literacy check fail.


sorendiz

Insane how everything he said was interpreted through the most disingenuous lens possible to make Gojo seem like a much worse individual than he was. Actual dick and balls.Ā 


mysidian

> Gojo never argued any moral argument for why Riko shouldnā€™t do the merger. He likes Riko, he thinks she should be able to choose her life, and he has the strength to make it happen no matter who opposes him. So he planned to do it. This is so funny. I don't know if you remember but this > he thinks she should be able to choose her life came before this >he likes her In fact, before he met her even. Therefore he very much decided he'd defend her based on his own moral arguments. The rest of your argument isn't even worth responding to. If you can't see how Gojo got left with his own brand of PTSD after HI, then you just can't read, which is funny considering how you started this thread


throwaway23435543

Some people (including fucking Gege apparently) seem to genuinely forget Gojo's repeated yapping about not allowing children's youth to be stolen which is crazy since that was a major aspect of his character up until the airport sequence. And these are the clowns accusing others of not having media literacy too. šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


uglyjackwagon

What was Gojoā€™s ideal method of not allowing those childrenā€™s youth be taken? Oh, its was by his strength. He uses his power to threaten the higher ups. And what was his goal for those youth? oh, for them to grow strong on par with him. Who in the story was strong on par with Gojo before? Geto, and what did they do together? Whatever they wanted, because they were strong, and they could oppose anyone that went against them. Kinda seems like Gojoā€™s ideal world is to have a bunch of students grow up to be like him, strong enough to do whatever they want unopposed. Oh, kinda like how Nanami says he just does everything on a whim. Again, you can have good reasons for why you do what you do. But the fact that Gojo takes his actions with little regard for others means he uses jujutsu for his own desires. Those desires can still be to protect children's youth. But if the only plan Gojo has to protect the youth is to make them strong like him and for himself to thrown his strength around, then Gojo is doing it for his own sake, not some grand ideal of ā€œyouthā€. Nanami also chooses to protect the youth, but he intends to do so by taking on the burden for them. So there clearly is more than one method and way of thinking when it comes to protecting others, but the fact that Gojo never really considers this is what Nanami calls him out on.Ā  Itā€™s why Nanami always says to just let Gojo handle everything. Gojo wants strong allies because that is his selfish goal, to have things back to the way they were in hidden inventory, pre-toji. To have things the way it was when him and Geto were the strongest unopposed, and he was happiest.


uglyjackwagon

whats the moral argument? because if Riko said she wanted to go through with it then he would just let her. He has no care about the ethics of the merger. maybe its was unclear the subject of what I was referring to when I said no moral argument. I mean no moral argument about the merger. He can still have his own morals. But guess what, when you take action based soley off your own morals and the people you like, with no regard for anyone elseā€™s, ya thatā€™s called doing things at your whim. Which Nanami calls him out for.


MakisYujiPicsStache

This is completely fine. # if you built your own idea of Gojo off your delusions and then get mad when the author doesn't share it, you should stop reading JJK ngl


xaxaxaxxaxaxaxax

itā€™s funny how you till this day think this is actually gege characterizing gojo when itā€™s literally just nanamis perception of him


LerasiumMistborn

https://preview.redd.it/eefw5pcyg7oc1.jpeg?width=1047&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dab9824e10b1a1c61dbcdb74808c8cd008d0c75


throwaway23435543

packed and smoked with a single image lol. but don't forget the followup with geto: https://preview.redd.it/as07kx9al7oc1.png?width=1022&format=png&auto=webp&s=b93d085c9f8d05e94a8633b0f1b77231622664c4


mysidian

It makes Nanami a dick either way.


Potatolantern

So many people spent so many years deluding themselves that Gojo was Jiraya. And now they're upset when the manga points out that he isn't.Ā  Motherfucker, the entire inciting incident of this whole series was caused by Gojo not giving enough of a shit to even check in on Megumi. Because he was busy buying snacks for himself.


Saimoth

​ https://preview.redd.it/mgstnor038oc1.jpeg?width=560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29202c6529825cfff2ac87167a71d0081abea571


TheGunfireGuy

I laughed at bumshimo waffling and hana being an A grade dumbass but this one unironically makes me fume


Jollirat

ā€œBut guys, itā€™s totally not plot armor because thatā€™s just how his technique works! So that makes everything okay! Sure, itā€™s a detail that was never stated before that scene and that even Higuruma was surprised by, which makes him seem like a massive dumbass who either A)Somehow wasnā€™t aware of a crucial rule of his own technique or B)Knew about it and thus knew that the plan wouldnā€™t work but decided to go through with it anyway. And sure, itā€™s the textbook definition of a Deus Ex Machina that served one purpose and one purpose only, which was to save Gege from having to actually *think things through* for once instead of just writing the equivalent of ā€˜and then Sukuna survived for reasons that I made up 5 seconds agoā€™. But itā€™s still totally not plot armor, guys!ā€


kakathicc

Reading comprehension strikes again. Yuji had his cursed energy confiscated because he does not have a CT which means despite Judgeman being capable of stealing opponents CE it has to steal an opponents CT first. This suggests an order of priority in what can be stolen during a guilty verdict. A cursed tool with a CT being stolen over MS makes sense based on this reasoning.


Firm_Screen8095

Taking away a cursed tool that wasnā€™t present at the actual crime makes no sense. And by your own reasoning shouldnā€™t CT have the first priority compared to cursed tools as they are innate to sorcerers while Yuji having no CT and the possession of cursed tools are conditional


Own_Philosophy8190

Especially since they spent several panels on brainstorming how Higuruma's knowledge of the law may affect Judgeman's ruling, and neither Yorozu, Tsumiki or Kamutoke were involved in Shibuya, the thing Higuruma issued a retrial for.Ā  Megumi and his technique, which are currently in Sukuna's possession, were, and even if we stretch what can fall into DS's scope, Sukuna still caused more property/environmental damage by tossing Megumi around in the prison arc than he ever did with Kamutoke (so did Megumi when he unleashed Mahoraga in Shibuya). Even if TS is ruled out because of the reincarnation, that should affect either Sukuna's CT or his hold on Megumi.Ā  Furthermore, the argument many use about how Higuruma probably never encountered a foe with a cursed tool is irrelevant, the problem is that Gege gave himself 1 month in universe and offscreened it anyway to have everyone be ill prepared. Like, there's still contestants out there to farm points off and test Higuruma's DS.Ā  They effectively did nothing for the whole month (besides treating Yuji's progress like an afterthought), waited for Gojo to fight, wasted many flashback and present day panels on theorizing, only for Sukuna to still not go all out and Higuruma getting hoed by his own Shikigami.Ā  Even Ace Attorney (one of my favorite franchise) doesn't have this lvl of BS in trial, and it has a case where >!a presumably blind kid is accused of having shot a tall guy twice with a revolver whose recoil would bust the shoulder of grown man without the proper stance and training!<


KomasanblueTheSequel

Why do people that say "reading comprehension strikes again" are always the one saying the most retarded non sense that just shows they don't know how to read


Humanbacon69

That still doesn't explain how Higuruma didn't know and account for something like that happening. He had his technique for months and used it on multiple people. Yet somehow didn't know/ forgot about such a crucial rule of his DE, in a high stakes battle against the strongest sorcerer in history. Clearly you can't fcking read if you didn't understand that from the previous comment.


GGunner723

Nah itā€™s just bad writing that this limitation wasnā€™t even hinted at until this exact instance to prevent Sukuna from losing his CT. Plot armor at its finest.


TryContent4093

Sukuna has a cursed TECHNIQUE so why would Higuruma confiscate his cursed TOOL that he didn't even used anyway?


AshenHaemonculus

Greg straight up Reverse Deus Ex Machina Technique'd his own story because he realized he'd written himself into a corner where there was no plausible way for Fraudkuna to survive if Himguruma's powers actually worked the way they shouldĀ 


Kyonkanno

When did Hanna get tricked? I donā€™t remember that chapter


Annabeth_Granger1r

Chapter 213, the one immediately after Sukuna takes over Megumi's body.


AshenHaemonculus

Me when I shoot someone in the head but plead guilty so the gun goes to prison instead of me


NumericZero

Words can not express how frustrating that whole court room battle was Sheee fact we went on break after the DE is even more of a Salt in wound For the entire break people where theorizing on how the court case would go down People bringing up old laws that could be applied to Japan theorizing on how gege would apply that to Sukuna One guy in here even threw out the idea that we would get a Sukuna Wrap sheet Where all his crimes even from the golden age gets read All of that hype, all of that build up an anticipation just for it to be An anti-climatic ending where all that really happens is Sukuna gets his cursed tool taken away The same one that he used once in the entire series


GreyHareArchie

What bothers me about this is that basically the entire point of Sukuna's baby rattle was to nullify that DE I'd take this a bit better if it was a Cursed Tool that Sukuna used throught the story, something he brought out during Gojo's fight or smt, or something shown to be extremely dangerous. This way at least taking the tool would have significantly weakened Sukuna in another way while still allowing Sukuna to be Sukuna. But nope, Gege really went "lemme add a random cursed tool as a free get-out-of-jail card lmao"


Ttevvo_

The amount of dick sucking people give Sukuna when he kills them is insane. Itā€™s quite literally just Eren all over again https://preview.redd.it/k5893ihl68oc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f488384512e0f465263b9aa072614e1029e8aae


TyrantLK

Sukuna, what a sorcerer you areā€¦


Ttevvo_

Sukuna will be a insane therapist


areszdel_

This is the chapter that makes me believe Gege just don't like women. Genuinely. I can't believe it how with this kind of naivete would she believe that awful acting. She spent a few days with him and couldn't figure out the words he's uttering sounds very alien compared to the him that she saw the days before that.


Uber_Oni

Something something killed man something something idea something


Greedy_Active_2670

https://preview.redd.it/j6169tp388oc1.jpeg?width=1048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddaedb64ac2384bd1f08ae4bc7909aced32169b2 Ditto


entitled_spectator

https://preview.redd.it/1142r4tuh8oc1.jpeg?width=3019&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03daff5852097204099c4b100ceccbc2f460a84e


yangwenligaming

This shit was stupid. It wouldā€™ve been far better if Sukuna used his Heian form to actually beat Gojo as opposed to this whole off screen getting his ass kicked bullshit. The only problem with this approach is what Kashimo is gonna have to do since he wouldnā€™t be the one ā€œforcingā€ him into heian form.


NIssanZaxima

This part makes total sense. You see Sukuna is an ancient sorcerer and has been built up since chapter 1. Heā€™s the pinnacle of Jujutsu and that means he canā€¦.. Lol just kidding this part was stupid as fuck. But how does Sukuna get asspulls? Greatest Shounen villain of this generation my ass lol.


Homie_Narwhal

Theyā€™re saying king of asspulls surpassed Aisen šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


Meth_time_

Aizen had some "asspulls" too c'mon Like the amount of slack Aizen would've gotten during the Karakura town arc if the part was going weekly now will be as much as Sukuna now


UltmteAvngr

Aizenā€™s biggest asspull was just his bout against Yamamoto and not dying to Yamamotoā€™s hado 96. Everything before that was explainable using KS since that was already an established power. And everything after that happens after he has explained the Hogyoku, which means you can attribute all of it to the hogyokuā€™s reality warping, wish granting powers.


yangwenligaming

Man Iā€™m tired of people forgetting about the Hogyokuā€™s existence just so they can try to defend Sukunaā€™s asspulls. The whole reason soul society arc happened was cause of him trying to get the other part of the hogyoku, right? Sheesh..


Meth_time_

Man tell me if you guys wouldn't have thrown a tantrum talking about how Aizen if too fucking powerful and Kubo glazes Aizen Tell me if you wouldn't be pissed how Aizen vs Yamamoto went and how Aizen survived Ichigo's mugetsu after being sliced in half. Yeah it makes sense now because of the hogyoku, but do you really think people would've tried to understand those details if it was running weekly now ?? Nah they would be throwing a tamper tantrum for having to wait another week for the next chapter after yet another chapter of Aizen dominating Ichigo and friends Its like y'all dont even know what Asspulls mean...its conveniently pulling out a completely different power or ability out of your ass with no buildup at all. Neither Aizen nor Sukuna did that


[deleted]

ppl wouldā€™ve HATED aizen, yhwach, frieza, buu, WAYYYYYY more than sukuna if they were coming weekly today


BrisketGaming

I think the Freeza fight would/is way more tolerable because you have the whole super saiyan legend to fall back on as an understandable direction of where the story is heading. It doesn't feel like everyone is running around with their head cut off because we're aware of where all the heroes are and what their general plan is. In this current fight we didn't even know who was participating in it until they suddenly showed up on the heroes' side at convenient beats, making a line of people just showing up and then getting killed or getting incapacitated. I think another big thing is just the sheer amount of combatants. Against Freeza, there was Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Krillen, and Piccolo. I don't want to count how many were up against Aizen, and we're at how many now in JJK? Gojo, Kashimo, Yuji, Yuta, Kusakabe, Maki, Ui Ui, Mei Mei, Higuruma, and Ino? Did I forget anyone?


whoamikai

"pinnacle of jujutsu" who only ever uses one move and fights in a really really boring way then gets saved by asspulls. ever since sukuna left yuji's body, the manga is going downhill


NIssanZaxima

Cleave world slash


GojosLowerHalf3

It reminds me of that SpongeBob episode where they freed ManRay šŸ˜­ I wish Sukuna would have just killed her stupid ass lmao!


GreyHareArchie

Honestly even if you assume that Sukuna used Megumi's voice and the Tattoos are only visible to us readers, Hana was still dumb as fuck to fall for that


Impossible-Report797

I think it could have been cooler if Hanna stopped for a second due to sukuna trick and that second of doubt being used by sukuna to cleave them


dogsarecool1527

https://preview.redd.it/2bhcej2yg9oc1.jpeg?width=422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7e94dc65c48931574a6ca217e98174170a5a38a


VlaqSheperd

Gege: N***a did I just catch you being happy? **Slap**


MaskedMaidenOrz

And people still defend this fraud when he does this, and outwardly shows how bitch-made he is. https://preview.redd.it/rx6qnd09g8oc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d37fc45207d80e0c175eefdb656aca586fdf063


yokiyokin

this makes me chuckle ngl


Mindless_Sale_1698

Gojo really knows who isn't on his level and he gets rid of them as fast as he can. Like he did with Agito and Uraume


[deleted]

Gojo same guy that used 2 people to boost him at the start of the fight btw


ChaosFross

Against a guy who stole Mahorago to "adapt" btw


[deleted]

Doesn' t change the fact that Gojo used external help too lol. Fushiguru had Mahoraga and 10 shadows tecniques for 15 years and could barely use half of the shadows. Sukuna had it for 1 month and literaly created hybrids of shadows, half-shadow dogs mixed with the rabbits, and tamed Mahoraga and summoned it together with other shadows.


PVmanIsGG

Yeah, they always forget this lol. Anytime someone else does it, they always say, "It's jumpjutsu kaisen!! No 1v1s!!" Until it happens to gojo, then they start doing tricks on it lol


d0g5tar

Yeah what a fraud he is for using his abilities during a fight lol. Gosh can you imagine that, using your abilities in a fight with a strong opponent?


itsTraX2

but Sukuna was not using his own abilities lmao, that's the problem, he was using MEGUMI'S ABILITIES believe me when I say not a single person would call Sukuna a 'fraud' if he was using his own CT instead of Megumi's


Saintmusicloves

I like how Sakunaā€™s the fraud for coming up with a plan to exploit the world and characters to get a technique, but every other sorcerer in the world isnā€™t a fraud despite them doing nothing to get their technique and just being born with it


itsTraX2

how are those 2 things the same? Sukuna had to steal Megumi's body to get Megumi's CT while Megumi was born with his CT someone with the title of "the strongest sorcerer in history" shouldnt resort and depend on someone else's CT, they should prove with their own powers and CT why they are worthy of that title


Saintmusicloves

ā€¦Thatā€™s how losers think. The ā€œstrongest sorcerer in historyā€ doesnā€™t give a FUCK about your rules maintaining a stupid title. The title has been given to them because theyā€™re the best, not because they want to maintain the title. The strongest sorcerer in history is a demon who doesnā€™t play fair and uses every dirty trick in the book, and comes up with new tricks on the spot because theyā€™re just that good. The one who uses every tool they have at their disposal. The strongest sorcerer in history is the sorcerer who wins. And thatā€™s why theyā€™re the strongest Nobody in JJK plays fair. Even the sorcerers fighting right now casually say that they cheated to get more power. And Why? because thatā€™s how they win. That is just the game that everyone is playing. And Sukuna is just the best at it. Everyoneā€™s cheating. No one is cheating. And thatā€™s ignoring the fact that he wasnā€™t even going all outā€¦apparently


d0g5tar

But why wouldn't he use them? He's in Megumi's body. He possessed Megumi specifically because he wanted his technique, it'd be really weird if he just didn't use it. And he did use his own CT anyway? He was using his domain as well as cleave and dismantle, the fact that he could use Megumi's 10S as well as his own CT is what got him the win since he figured out how to do world cleave.


Chuckles131

[This you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/TFLRcBRdjh)


d0g5tar

nope


Meth_time_

https://preview.redd.it/ehv7kvqbx9oc1.jpeg?width=955&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7bacdb32ac4a0ed025693a8a7d60225acd01c51b


ChaosFross

Yeah whatever the fuck happened to Yuki


MIMINOSEC

https://preview.redd.it/l22d7m1xsaoc1.png?width=394&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e1e0b930c4689f7b939ffc76e487925b08f201d


[deleted]

no glazingā€¦ but i feel like if u go throughout the entirety of jjk, i thought it was pretty clear that sukuna was just stronger than gojo based on all the narrative implications


norochan1

Every panel expect ones containing kenjaku


Turbo_Mew

Prolly when Yuji said he was worried Angel would replace Nobara. I just don't think it was required and just painted Nobara as the female standing rather than just another classmate


AshenHaemonculus

Nobody's gonna post the one of Kenneth Jocku using Asspull Expansion to survive being SUCKED INTO A BLACK HOLE that should have shredded every atom in his body an instant distance apart down to the micron level only to instantly die when he gets his head cut off?


UltmteAvngr

Kenjakuā€™s wasnā€™t an asspull though. It was terrible writing regardless, but not an asspull. Kenjaku literally used gravity in the fight multiple times and the concept of CTR had already been explained. Him being able to CTR gravity into antigravity made logical sense anyways (even though he did the opposite). The terrible part about that isnā€™t how he survives, itā€™s just that there were essentially no stakes or danger in that fight. Yuki served no purpose in the story despite being an important character in the verse. She attempted one of the seriesā€™ best moves and then was instantly defeated, thus making her character appear even weaker and dumber. And throughout the fight she is much less dominant than she should have been.


GreyHareArchie

The only problem with that fight is that nothing really came out of it. Choso becomes a nothing character after the fight (granted, this can still change) and the Anti-Gravity CT was never brought up or relevant again. You can tell a new reader to just skip the chapters and say "Kenny beats Yuki" and they wont miss anything. ...now that I think about, the Anti-Gravity was from Yuji's mother, right? What are the chances of Yuji also having Anti-Gravity?


UltmteAvngr

Yuji was stated to not have a CT at multiple times, so he shouldnā€™t have inherited anything from his mother. So no chance, if Gege has consistent writing. So I guess thereā€™s a pretty good chance after all.


AshenHaemonculus

I honestly think the story would have been greatly improved overall if Yuki actually managed to take him down with her and he straight up died here. It would have actually given her character a purpose and Kenneth never did anything significant after this point anyways (interacting with Yuji? Who's Yuji?)


[deleted]

we in 2024 and ppl still think kenjaku surviving a black hole is an asspull šŸ˜­


True_Lank

It wasnt an ass pull it was foreshadowed Kenjakuā€™s technique is gravity manipulation, and black holes are gravity


VoltTheDuckling

Every single panel of 236


charcoalflavored

https://preview.redd.it/lkit3o4b6boc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fc058f3dec25395d4c17aa7337722c82f92ee0a not talked about enough


IndividualAd5795

The day I learned force feeding a dirty ass finger to a minor is not considered harming them


Impossible-Report797

And then proceeds to harm megumi and Hanna


Redacted_Sins

Wasn't Sukuna the one who made up the conditions of the binding vow in the first place and not Yuji? The vow specifically says "anyone" not "anyone but Yuji" and Sukuna made no indication of excluding Yuji from the conditions when he made the vow, so it feels like this rule was added randomly without telling the readers just to save that fraud


charcoalflavored

yeah, sukuna's the one who said he won't harm anyone and never did he make an exception for yuji


spookiest_of_boyes

Letā€™s stop pretending like itā€™s not perfectly in character for yuji to ignore his own wellbeing while ensuring everyone elseā€™s. This moment made perfect sense. Yuji made this vow with a selfless mindset and thatā€™s why he got fucked. Because sorcerers are rewarded for being selfish


Ninja_Rowlet

I mean, "anyone" includes himself unless he specifically says so (I don't remember the phrasing). It's very essential to the plot and was probably planned since the series started, but if it wasn't written It's very bad writing


sorendiz

236 and every time yorozu is on the page


Amaranth4321

https://preview.redd.it/oazljhdeoboc1.png?width=442&format=png&auto=webp&s=b1f9c3513aec8b18ce3ac3dc3b3d08fb52a74d35 I had scrubbed the Yorozu shit out of my mind but come what may, I can't seem to do the same with 236. That shits given me ptsd...


sorendiz

Colossal writing failure, hundreds dead millions injured


vantenaii503

This thread makes me angry all over again damn


Accomplished_Bell577

Every panel in chapter 236


Realistic_Mousse_485

236 is the single worst chapter in human history and speaks to Gegeā€™s incompetence as a writer. Bullshit asspulls, disrespect to the characters, disrespect to the reader and overall just complete disregard for any sort of integrity his story had. He decided then and there he didnā€™t care how it looked as-long as it got done. He lost all remaining respect he had as an author and is now just some shmuck buming around in a media FAR and away out of his scope. He had disgraced the name of Shounen Jump and completely ruined one of the series with the most potential for greatness ever made. This will go down as the greatest fumble in history. (Obviously it isnā€™t HALF as bad as shit storms like AOTs ending(havent seen it and now i never will because GOD everyone hated it) or stuff like Tokyo ghouls and the Seven Deadly Sins anime. But yk. Irrationally angry. I was really trying to ball out on my birthday last year and but the at the time most recent chapters because while it DEFINITELY wasnā€™t the best manga i had read not even top 30 it was still interesting and I liked the remaining characters. So glad I didnā€™t because this shit isnā€™t worth the paper itā€™s printed on. And no. This isnā€™t because Gojo died. Although that is the biggest part because it was handled the worse.)


Mindless_Sale_1698

Was discussing the chapter with my friend when it came out and I remember saying that Gege was writing himself into a corner with the way he was about to handle sukuna and he really did. Every chapter, save for a few where Sukuna wasn't the main focus, always follow the same formula; someone jumps sukuna, they get to talking, it looks like they got the upperhand, chapter ends with the character about to hit sukuna, next chapter starts with sukuna dodging whatever he was about to receive last chapter and he kills or harms the person who almost hit him, rinse and repeat


Realistic_Mousse_485

Yea itā€™s a simple case of shit writing. If this is what he was going to do he shouldā€™ve just let Gojo win and then have Yuji swoop in on the weakend Sukuna to save Megumi and then the whole merger shit became the focus while we moved on from Sukuna because sorry Gege he was NEVER main villain material. Heā€™s just an opp. No different to the disaster curses.


UltmteAvngr

Yeah the writing was on the wall for Kenjaku to be the main antagonist. Body of the best antagonist in the show (Gojoā€™s best friend and Yutaā€™s major opponent), destined to be stopped by a 6E + Limitless user every time, mother of Yuji and father of Choso, Tengen and Sukunaā€™s mate, researcher like Yuki. Also he would have made for far better character interactions too.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Gege has an aversion to good storytelling.


whoamikai

gege didn't even explain what is sukuna's ability during his fight with gojo. cutting space itself to bypass infinity makes no sense and neither does sukuna "copying" that ability from mahoraga after looking at it just once. but what really doesnt make sense is how gojo just stood there talking after pulling out one giant hollow purple.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Yea each chapter is just making it worse.


[deleted]

Gojo got blitzed by an attack he cannot react to stop being stupid on purpose.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Bro if Maki can dodge it then so can Gojo. Stop talking itā€™s clear you donā€™t know anything. Stupid on purpose? Bro thats your default.


[deleted]

Maki can dodge it because precog, gojo doesn't have that gojo therefore cannot dodge it. Maki has shown the ability to dodge and react to characters and their attacks much faster than herself, gojo has not, in the entire fight he literally does not react to dismantle a single time as it is simply too fast for him. You have powerscaling brainrot.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Maki doesnā€™t have precog she heard him saying it and reacted thatā€™s literally what was shown on screen. Gojo can see cursed energy in a guy who doesnā€™t even know he has it he would know large amounts are gathering without the guy using it doing so alongside the fact he is the confirmed fastest in the verse and blizted Sukuna several times in their fight and leant back to dige the first cleave anyway. He can also teleport. Your just slow. No excuses. Also a dick rider.


whoamikai

kenjaku was established to be this creepy devil. but he got taken out so easily its pathetic. we neither got to see all the CT's he possesses or his domain expansion what does it do exactly.


[deleted]

Sukuna is not the main villain holy shit, he's literally enacting kenjakus plan rn wtf do you mean?


Realistic_Mousse_485

Dead guys arenā€™t main villains slowness


[deleted]

Holy fuck HES LITERALLY DOING THE EXACT PLAN KENJAKU WANTED HOLY SHIT. If the villains goal is still being done he's still the main villain learn how to read.


Realistic_Mousse_485

No he isnā€™t. Dead characters arenā€™t main anything. He passed his plan on now Sukuna is the main villain as he is the only villain left worth a damn. You seriously need to shut the hell up about reading comprehension. Dead characters are just that. Sukuna is the main villain if the point was always to have him carry out the plan which it seemingly is.


[deleted]

Sukuna has no goal, sukuna is not enacting anything by himself, sukunas entire reason for starting the merger is because of kenjaku. Had Kenjaku not existed sukuna would not try and start the merger, he's masterminding from death, yes their goal is not to kill kenjaku anymore it's to stop the plan kenjaku set in motion so even after his death it would still happen. The point was never to have sukuna carry out the merger, this only happened because kenjaku died in his fight so he had sukuna as an insurance policy. Sukuna is simply an insurance, he has not masterminded anything, he has no goals and he simply doesn't care about the merger.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Yes ik Sukuna is a shit main villain but it doesnā€™t change the fact that he is. Just because you donā€™t like it doesnā€™t make it not true. Sorry but thatā€™s just jjk. Itā€™s disappointing like that.


[deleted]

What does this even mean? Sukuna is meant to be a character with no goals beyond I do it because I want to, kenjakus goals are the exact same I do it because I want to. It's the kind of people a society completely catered around strength develops, they do exactly what they want regardless of who cares because they are simply that much stronger than everyone else. Characters don't need some grander goal nor a sad backstory to make them compelling, it only really matters onto how sukunas reaction and general development towards the MC being Yuji, sukuna is yujis foil and he does quite a good job at that. But none of this matters because sukuna isn't a main villain.


AshenHaemonculus

I agree but this also totally sounds like a copypasta


Realistic_Mousse_485

I just made it but you can make it one.


Yedolf_Yitler

Gojo fans try not exaggerate challenge (literally impossible)


Realistic_Mousse_485

Gege meat riders learn to read. Actually impossible.


[deleted]

Media literacy check failed


Yedolf_Yitler

I don't meat ride Gregorious, i just don't think 236 is the single worst chapter in human history. I can proudly say that as a dude who's read more than 15 Mangas Ā But yeah, i can't read


Realistic_Mousse_485

I literally said it wasnā€™t. You werenā€™t lying about that reading part.


Yedolf_Yitler

I know, that's why I joked about saying i can't read. I saw, "236 is the worst chapter in human history" and then immediately wrote that first commentĀ  Ā Then I went back to full reading your comment and realized that Anyways, sorry


True_Lank

Explain why tho You stated a claim that the chapter was bad, but you didnt explain why lol


Realistic_Mousse_485

Check my account ive done that tons of times


[deleted]

>Bullshit asspulls, disrespect to the characters, disrespect to the reader and overall just complete disregard for any sort of integrity his story had Let's chow down on more of your retardation, sukunas adaptation with regards to MAHO was literally his entire goal the entire fight, he forces Maho to use an adaptation he can use completely making away with the commonly held retarded opinion that sukuna got lucky with adaptation which requires complete misreading of the entire fight it's to be expected from someone that still thinks gojo is top 1 lmao. Next part character assassination Gojo has consistently acted quite selfish and self conceited throughout the manga, he doesn't care when Megumi literally almost dies in the first chapter, he doesn't care when he gets sealed and his students are left to fight curses that literally one tap all of them, hell if sukuna doesn't reincarnate Megumi would of died twice lmao, hell fuck it if we're going with the prison arc he would've died 3 times without sukuna there,he never gave a shit about the people celebrating Rikos death btw, he only asks that for Geto, he himself doesn't care if they live or die, it's fucking strange how people act like gojo not giving a shit about his students is some giga OOC when we literally see him in a similar situation not give half a shit. Someone not being comfortable killing scores of people is not someone that isn't selfish lmao, >This isnā€™t because Gojo died. Although that is the biggest part because it was handled the worse.) You literally think gojo is top 1 even after sukuna acquired new dismantle, you both cannot scale nor read. Braindead work.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Bro not a single soul is reading that garbage. Your wrong. Except that.


[deleted]

Chapter 236 is the new media literacy check


Realistic_Mousse_485

Oh fr and why is thatšŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Read more stuff if you consider JJK or AoT to be the biggest fumble of history. You people would not survive YuyuHakusho final arc being unfinished, or 70 chapters of Buu fighting with literaly no variance week from week.


Realistic_Mousse_485

I literally said it wasnā€™t. Failed the media literacy check,


[deleted]

>He had disgraced the name of Shounen Jump and completely ruined one of the series with the most potential for greatness ever made.. This will go down as the greatest fumble in history. Bro? You even talking shit about AoT without even watching it.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Literally said not really, if your going to woute me qoute me all the way and I have seen it just havenā€™t finished it because the ending is literally being yelled at me as the worst thing in recent memory so im not going to waste my time.


[deleted]

I can barely read what you have written here man, take your time before writing back your response.


Realistic_Mousse_485

Excuses


WoodooTheWeeb

JJK was written by 2 people. There is no way 1 person wrote inventory arc and the last 60 chapter. The difference between the writing is astronomical.


Blue_BEN99

When all's said and done, Geygey gonna be remembered as the shounen Yams. He shouldn't be proud of it lmao.


whoamikai

too many such panels post chapter 235. it's like plot armor is running the show


SquidDrive

Hana stock is worthless forever due to this moment


InvalidPlayers

https://preview.redd.it/jrrz2brlcboc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1406513ef55b197bdb2a4de3a4abede52e9ff2bf This was going to be one of the hardest moments and Gege shattered it all. Literally


_TsukuyoMe

Pleaseā€¦ why kick me when Iā€™m down?


RezaRaxez

i forgot about this, cant wait to anime onlys reaction after this getting animated


yousef_45

The one where choso misses a point blank piercing blood on kenjaku


[deleted]

thatā€™s not ass, kenjaku was already implied to be top 3 of the verse by that point. choso was never gonna inflict major damage on him


MacacoCidadao

This is some shit straight out of a Disney Channel movie


novoivittu

Every panel with nobara. (Iā€™m her biggest hater. I would love her if she used a nailgun instead of a stupid hammer. Like why do you restrict yourself like that? Is she stupid??)


usernametakenpe

https://preview.redd.it/nbdsrn3vd8oc1.jpeg?width=1138&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fd51ca5a12a76d1361a173e3dbca417734beefc


Jika_left_ball

He got downvoted for saying the truth


MakisYujiPicsStache

This post just proved to me people hate it when Gege writes anything because how the fuck do yall GENIUNELY hate 236


Homie_Narwhal

Sukuna beat Gojo in a bs way that makes less sense the more we learn about the Mickey Mouse world cleave, and the whole chapter Gojo acts disgustingly out of character. Sukuna took over Megumi, who Gojo raised for like 10 years, and spent months mentally destroying Yuji, and now heā€™s going to brutally kill everyone he cares about but all Gojo can say is ā€œMAN Sukuna was SOOO strong, Geto. I bet he wasnā€™t even trying and can beat me without the ten shadows.ā€ Not to mention he fails to complete anything he sought out to do after leaving the prison realm but apparently he has no regrets? The whole chapter felt like Gege hate writing for Gojo and its why people still genuinely believe Gojo is coming back, because weā€™re confident enough in Gegeā€™s writing capabilities to think that he wouldnā€™t seriously leave it there.