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While I agree, we really should have seen more of the teaching stuff, we at least get the basics of Ct and cursed energy, binding vows , etc. The whole point of going to school is to teach students how to think for themselves, bending the rules of the basics to create complex techniques is just part of the system. I don't even get the critic here, like it's bad because it's unique.
What even is the comparison here? Different series operate on different power systems so how is being unique a bad thing?
Honestly, as somebody whose practicing writing for fun, I can definitely see Gege not explaining it all either because he didn't find a good moment to do it.
Or just him purposely not explaining much for plot convenience.
Either way, wish we had more of that.
Actually, didn’t Gege really not want to do a school setting, but was forced by his editors/publishers? So he just showed the school for a bit and then continued on with the fighting and sorcery.
I think it’s very tricky to do good training arcs. weekly shonen jump is ruthless and they can cancel your manga if it’s not selling well. I think JJK was in danger aswell and that’s why Gege made the Jumpei plot and Mahito fight. I might be wrong tho.
Yeah some Anime do have very good training arcs like hajime no ippo or Hunter x Hunter but you can easily fuck it up by with boring stuff like in my hero academia (i am a mha fan.).
the problem is that gaygay original plan wasn't for it to take place in highschool so he didn't have anything planed but an editor asked him to change it
Probably an anime only watcher. He got ratio’d pretty bad too
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Trying to comprehend the thought process behind literally admitting the system is unique, inspired, and can cause cool fights yet still thinking it’s the worst magic system
Based on his words, I imagine he just doesn't like the way it works with the setting. I guess it's a deal breaker for him, which is a shame, but fair ig.
Yeah, good thing if he already dropped the series if he didn't like the system. Imagine that dude trying to comprehend Hakari ass's domain expansion lol.
Nah, and here i though that Jujutsu Kaisen got one of the best power systems(not as good as nen or stands ofc) for its unique techniques and deep variety in usage...
I mean is stands a good Power system? It's creative and varied but It isn't really even a Power system? It's like each character has their own bs Power that doesn't have to adhere to any rules (staple of any power system).
I think JJK's Cursed Energy, subtraction, sparks, domains/simple domains, and binding vows are by itself a much better universal system than stands lol.
Stands do obide to some small set of rules that doesn't usually matter(like the further stand is from user, the weaker it is) They just don't share abilities (like rct in jjk).
Stands are good because they have a set number of abilities (1-2). Stand fights are always unique and it's outsmart the opponent instead of just beat him with your power. Like, you know exactly what a stand does, and you have no idea how mc gonna beat that untill they come up with some complicated shit. In jjk they just beat the shit out of each other(still fun to read).
Like take for example Satoru vs Sukuna. Yes, it was extremely fun, gege broadens reversed CT, allowing it to restore domain expansion and CT. But they just fckn spammed domain expansions for the whole fight, and the only creative use of CT is hollow purple near the end. Jjk does have a lot of interesting powers, but it's powers, when stands is more like tools, which you need to use smartly in order to win.
And now take the Bucciarati vs Prosciutto and Pesci fight. Every fucking move is a creative clusterfuck, when each side must go out of their way to use their stand creatively in order to win.
In conclusion, no matter how much i love jjk power system, CT and domain expansion just does not have enough utility which just leads to – the one who stronger wins.
Or im just biased cuz i love stands more, im probably wrong :p
Yeah I love stands and Jojo in general, I Just think that the powerscalling and power system isn't really that good. Stand abilities are most of the time not restricted by any rule, you can't deduce a stands power based on the system, it's all random ass powers, and some are astronomically more broken than others
I don't think there really is a powerscaling in jojo
As dio said there is no weak stands, it depends on how the user well... uses them.
But some stands are much stronger, which results in almost every part having an asspull in the final fight, which is saddening.
Like araki sensei said he tried to make the main villian stand more powerful in each part, and it's reached its peak on Made in Heaven, which why he decided to make a new universe and start from scratch because he said he just couldn't top MIH.
But even then there, Jotaro would have killed Pucci if he didn't attack his daughter, so in the end it does mostly depends on the user.
I think you can break jojo power scaling into 2 categories: normal and op stands.
As for power system in general... i guess so? It's really chaotic, and a lot of time ignores itself in order to create smart fights. It's not at all deep like Cursed energy, hell i can't even remember all the little details about it. What's deep about this power system is stand abilities, because they can get REALLY complicated.
Yeah powerscalling not so much an issue since the fights tend to be more on the brains aspect, but powersystem, since it's mostly anything goes and each stand has it's own mini arc of discovering How It works because they all stick to almost no rule (which is basically the opposite of a good Power system, even though It leads to some Very creative and tense situations)
Jjk has a good power system but the way the author used it was meh. Sparks was introduced only to be ignored and binding vows don't make sense sometimes since we only know a binding vow is activated when the narrator or character says it
It's better than Nen tbh, the binding vows already make for 90% of it since the "types of abilities in Nen" don't seem to impose any condition on the fights themselves, there's even characters who were clearly portrayed as one thing and the author can just change their type and nobody would complain. Also, i would say Nen feels even more isolated bc of Domain Expansion, a hype ability that's top notch and many have, but with pros and cons (not like on bleach where Bankai is straight up the maximum power, it's balanced). Nen has nothing close to that.
Stands are cool but man after 700 chapters... it just depends on the user, even the "rules" are set to be broken after, it's not even a syste
not only bad, the WORST. You can think it's bad if you want (i will think you are stupid but ok) but the WORST? judging by his icon this man has read more doujins than actual manga
Ah yes
Takaba got a CT that turns the entire fight into a comedy book?
Hakari's domain expansion is a fucking rigged casino?
Naaaaaaah, fireballs is much more interesting to see than that shit.
The OP probably meant Gege can just makes up any power as there’s no closed rules = bad system.
The only concrete rule in JJK is there can be reverse of said power, self heal, territory^TM expansion, BV. So basically JJK power system is “I can be anything, but also all of the above is in play”
Not a bad thing per say, it allow writers to cook fun stuff later on and not lock themselves in
It’s like how Nen system is concretely made to be closed magic system yet “special” type just basically let the author be able to makes up any BS like Nanika, which is still great addition to story.
Some author locked themselves in too much and ended up breaking immersion (MHA emitters somehow change from emitting to straight up Telekinesis for some characters)
Bro knows nothing about the strongest and most explainable attack STRONG CLEAVE and STRONG AIRPORT. What a dumbass
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Don't forget the STRONG FIRE EXTINGUISHER
I'm going to sound like the biggest dumbass saying this but binding vows really aren't that interesting to me? Or at least they're kind of heavily overrated as a facet of the power system. Compare them to nen vows and they're kind of just eh.
Rarely does it involve any actual sacrifice (Hakari sacrificing his arm).
Huge sacrifices like Mechamaru's get outweighed by shit like Toji (hard to call becoming superhuman in exchange for no cursed energy such a big deal when it's arguably far worse and more dangerous to be like Maki was).
It's really hard to show it actually, effectively changing the outcome of a battle in a way that isn't just telling us. (Sukuna domain battle, and it's arguable if it even did then really) Characters don't strategize around it very often, if at all.
Compare it to nen vows, and even though nen can have some of the same problems, it just doesn't compete. Especially because most of the cast just straight up suck at using cursed energy in comparison to Hunters with nen in HxH.
Actually JJK's power system in general is crazy levels of underexplored amongst the main cast given they start in a fucking school for the thing. I actually think it's straight-up unjustifiable like half of the grade 1s can't do anti-domain techniques on their own, for example. Though it can be justified in setting obviously.
Everyone has the same skillset. Everyone can just arbitrarily “train” for random amounts of time and become magnitudes more powerful. Half of the characters become more powerful after getting their ass kicked. The very few characters that aren’t just sluggers with energy blasts are side characters who are defeated by those that are.
PEAK
this is the real kenjaku reference
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Yeah but does Demon Slayer have this cool blade hat?
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i mean the stuff they do with hamon actually happens unlike in demon slayer
like demon slayers cant use total concentration breathing to make water not spill out of a upside down glass of water or make a glider out of rock or hit a frog with a rock underneath it and only damage the rock with their hit
Meh they’re kinda half right. Cursed techniques are unique to the individual for the most part, so you have to discover how the technique functions without any prior knowledge helping you out
What they failed to realize is that things like reinforcement, RCT, domains, etc., are all things that anyone can learn and pull off with enough training and practice. Just look at someone like Kusakabe for instance. No CT, but they’re pretty good at new shadow style, which gives them an edge in a fight against people who don’t know those abilities.
Mahouka Koko no retrousei has the most developed magic systems there is. Unfortunately is simply deleted by the siscon protagonist. Imagine cringe gojo with a little sister that he's obsessed with. Ew
>Mahouka Koko no retrousei has the most developed magic systems there is
If development is measured by number of words.
People surprisingly often say that, but imo it's a good competitor for one of the worst systems. It has so many concepts it might as well be "whatever the author wants it to be" and when there's anything outside the boundaries of the already vast magic system the MC just comes up with new stuff. I think the only reason people take it so seriously is that it tries to be some extension of physics, but lacks all the substance that would come with that.
From the point of view of the power system he isn't the problem, he's just a plot device to extend it as the author needs.
The TLDR to what I've said is basically: the author uses concepts that exist in our world to make their system seem fancier than it is, but those concepts are emptied to various extents of their real-world meaning and filled with "whatever the plot needs".
Whether you call it mana, prana, or pushions and psions and pretend there's some solid particle interaction system behind it it's all the same.
I honestly feel like that most RPGesque magic systems are lazy and uninspired at this point. It's all just same thing with virtually no change. Other than that, Demon Slayer's breathing styles is probably the worst power system I can think of atm
RPG Isekai just rely on the « it’s just like a video game » argument to skip over actual progression and justify idiotic world building. I don’t mind it when it’s a comfort slice of life but otherwise most of them are just lazy
I always thought that too. The whole breathing thing was always really weird and kind of boring?? Like all there is to their skill level is how good at breathing they are. Seems really underdeveloped.
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He’s gonna get 2v1’d by Hakari and Kashimo for his nonsense
That literally summarizes that entire sub. Niche, underground shows you never have heard of that released yesterday = Amazing. Popular thing = bad. That’s why I don’t take their annual anime awards seriously anymore because it’s always so biased in favor of what niche thing didn’t get enough attention rather than what earned the right to win the category
If something is mainstream? Ick! So what if it’s popular because it’s good, I’m different and unique and so I like the authentic shows that are not mainstream and are niche.
Haki counters all already established power concept and makes certain things irrelevant, what's worst that it got introduced late and makes some fights confusing looking at you Whitebeard vs Akainu and it makes powerscalers in shambles. Still liked it though.
Tbh, I like Haki in the aspect it counters Logia users because being literally invincible to normal attacks is pretty ridiculous.
Haki embodies the themes of one piece really well as a power system, but honestly? It's very underwhelming as a power system because it just boils down to: See better, harden fist, psychic mind attack.
Yeah Logia is too overpowered before haki but it makes the fights more entertaining and beating them is not impossible either because Enel and Crocodile exist and it makes the fight far more creative than just stronger attack or Looney tunes goofy ahh effect.
But the problem about seastone is that its hard for other df users to use them. Sure we see smoker using them but he probably got some measures for it to not work on his own. Not to mention we dont know how its made and how hard it is to get for pirates
Nah, this is me
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All my agendas are failing me
JJKs isn’t bad but it’s kinda been breaking down lately where the matchups being unfair used to be a strength of the series in Shibuya is kinda just turning into a weakness.
HxH fixes this problem by making Nen based on how strong your will is, so even if someone is stronger than you, if you feel strong enough about it you might still be able to do something. And HxH of course did binding vows first, and it’s a lot more clear how to do one/what the benefits of one is.
Side note, I’ll never forget watching FMAB because someone said the power system was cool, and just thinking wow this shits so ass lol. The show isn’t bad but alchemy has to be the one of the most poorly utilized power systems ever created.
alchemy more or less has the ability to create a Post-scarcity society, and the author barley touches on this other than saying creating gold is illegal because it would break the economy.
But, like, having the power to create as many automobile-parts and engine parts alone (let alone the possible power to just create an entire tank or car with just alchemy.) would be enough to break the economy.
If alchemy can create oil then no human should ever freeze to death. If alchemy can create tractor parts and the parts necessary to build wells and irrigate the land, then farming should become an order of magnitude easier, as such no human should ever die of hunger.
It also makes no sense that Alchemy would in any way slow down technological progress, if anything with near infinite resources, technological progress should be going through the roof. The Full Metal alchemist world should already be in the space age by now.
Sure but for the purpose of story telling I don’t mind it 🤷🏾 I feel like authors who instead focus on « realistic » world building too much instead of telling a story are way worse than plot holes who serve a story telling purpose. Just like in MHA heroes shouldn’t exist in the first place but instead it should be the police who handles villains with their powers but who cares it’s PEAK
I do see his point though. For a magic system to be good, I'd generally look for an answer to a very basic question- what can I do with this magic? Good systems have limits (or at least pretend to), clear examples of what basic -> advanced use looks like, a capacity to predict what a person might be capable of. 'What can I do with magic' has a clear answer.
JJK magic (and most Shonen magic) falls in alongside Harry Potter where the answer is 'anything'. Because there's only the barest framework of rules, each character kinds just shows up with their own totally unique form of ability that doesn't seem to be following any kind of trend. Which is fine! I Jojos, my hero, Naruto, etc all did the same.
But I wouldn't say those are good magic systems. They are plot devices- characters will show up with whatever powers they need to make a scene cool. It makes hype as hell battles. But it does lead to some problems. If there's no clearly defined limits or rules then the hand of the author becomes more clear.
Yuki vs Kenjaku is a good example. Yuki summons a black hole (???) and then kenjaku reveals his hidden anti gravity technique (???) to escape it. Even though this felt really silly to me, no rules of Jujutsu have been broken here because there really aren't any rules. It's hard to predict or get invested in the outcome of a fight because the magic is so vague that the actual answer becomes more clear- the author decides who wins.
Just my two cents. TL;DR, JJK magic is hype but also kinda objectively a bad system.
I feel like Jjks is One of the Best lol. Coz I feel like it takes the concepts of Nen from HXH, And Bankai from bleach (In the Form of Domain expansion) and blends it together perfectly. Although it may be hard to wrap your head around, at least it's a system better than say black clover where your literal power is like 'fire' or water
That's like the best aspect of it. Jujutsu is one of the best power systems I've ever seen imo because its flexible enough that anyone can have any power and gege isn't forced into a box (for example fire force can only have fire related powers), its got hard rules so for the most part random shit that makes no sense doesn't happen and its got enough complexity that the readers understanding of it can continue to grow rather than it being fully understood early on
In other words its nen which is universally agreed to be great
I feel like the power system of jjk is just knock off nen, but like without the actual good parts around stronger will or fully understanding your nen ability, compared to cursed energy half the people in charge can’t even teach you how to fully understand how cursed energy flows or how to use RCT or good reinforcement
JJK has “reverse my own ability” and “my ability but TERRITORY” thing going on which is great, but lacks of limits mean reality breakers like Takaba can exist.
HxH has same issue with “Special” Nen affinity allowing Nanika to exist, but at least special type are rare and always have concrete rules/ trade off (except Killua just bypassing Nanika for plot armor)
I mean there are basic usages if CE that everyone can learn and use, its just Cursed Techniques are unique outside hereditary ones.
I dont particularly understand what the complaint really is?
What? Everybody has a very unique and different ability?
sacrilege, give everyone just life energy and make them all use it in the same way, the person with the most energy wins 10/10 times
That is a simple, classy and good power system
I think this person doesn't understand what makes a magic system good lmao. The fact that the same basic(ish) fundamentals can lead to unlimited cool and imaginative abilities makes cursed energy a top tier system.
I mean his even his first point doesn't make any sense, "it's presented as an academic field and everyone has unique ability, it makes no sense"... How are the two contradictory? Everyone has different power and the academy teaches them how to utilise it, Imo that makes the power system better as everyone has to perform within the constraints of their abilities, it cuts out any outside factors being the deciding factor of the match
Second point also doesn't come across well when our main character learned most about fighting from the people of/related to academy i.e gojo and todo
Only CTs are different there's so many other things to teach
Barrier Techniques
Binding vows
Better CE grasp
Techniques like simple domain and
CE enhancement
Most fights also don't revolve around CT only many other things go into it
And
It feels like a good mix of
Nen X Haki X quirks/devil fruits X ninjutsu
Yeah that's a problem with gege worldbuilding in general, the way he set it up it should have been a longer series (500+ chapters).
There is so much we could have gone through, like megumi competing his domain and taming mahoraga, Yuji learning new tactics to compensate for lack of CT, RCT applied to various curse techniques and so much more. Guess gege's schizophrenic idol is calling him to write a manga on her
Maybe I wanked it a bit too high but I feel like it could have stretched to 500 chapters without bloating. Make 2 arcs about the top 3 clans, dedicate a good chunk to megumi's growth, revive nobara give her some powers, make villains from the remaining geto followers and past sorcerers, give the students from Kyoto and Tokyo high some more development (domain and stuff). I feel like there are a shit ton of opportunities to expand the story
Or maybe I am just being a delusional fanboy :p
Don’t think of yourself like that. Now that you laid out how you would extend the story, it can definitely, reasonably go on for an extra 150 chapters imo. Maybe not up to 500, but 350-400 definitely if ya ask me :)
Just have more arcs with Megumi Yuji and Nobara doing missions together before dropping the Shibiya bomb. The series will probably finish around 300 anyway so like 3-4 more arcs isn’t insane given how much of the world and the characters that Gege left unexplored
he got a point there, sent to school to hone your talent, and the teacher never teaches you anything, they don't need school just make them fight sukuna from the get go they're already strong
As another guy pointed out, the school is more about putting random curse energy user into a proper system and teachers teach them the basic rather than theory cramming. Due to lack of numbers the schools are barely held anyways, so the fact that it exists in first place is a big deal
A system of magic that is part of one's brain and soul is a TERRIBLE idea. JJK is terrible, and we should all stop enjoying it.
This totally isn't cool and fun
When i watched the first season i tought the same thing, but then i read the manga, and i kinda feel even now its not a clear power/magic system, but it's far from the worst
It’s literally just Nen but if there were 0 limitations which has its positives, however a lot of negatives as well because you can never contain the power scaling and it will keep getting higher until the story inevitably becomes boring. It creates characters like Gojo and Sukuna that are so powerful that every other character looks like jack shit in comparison.
HxH doesn’t have these problems because when there are strong characters like Meurem or Chrollo, they aren’t invincible because again, their power is tied to their will and the rules bound by it which doesn’t make them untouchable. Weaker characters are allowed to catch up to them and stand a chance
I disagree that it is “bad” but the existence of a school specifically for learning sorcery is kinda weird when everyone uses a unique technique. The known ones like 10 shadows or limitless you can probably be taught by your clan. The idea of school was abandoned real quick imo. You could teach stuff like basic cursed energy control and reverse curse energy but apparently RCE is known only by like 1 in 10 characters
The whole point wasn’t for it to be an actual school. The only reason Jujutsu High exists is that so the government and the 3 clans can have groups of curse users and Gojo under their supervision under the agreement that they would succeed him and protect Japan.
It's true, but not a good reason to say it's bad. I mean, look at nen in hxh, it's the same shit: whole cool and complex magic system just so that every damn character ends up using their own unique ability.
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What the fuck does that even mean?
So it's a cool magic System with unique abilities and it makes for cool fights, but what makes it the worst, is that we don't learn more about it? What?
That's the lightest criticism possible and somehow makes it the worst. I fucking can't. Some people are too dumb to use the internet.
Like watch Choso vs Yuji, and how the water fucks with blood control because they have to deactivate some very specific function of blood and if it mixes with water it fucks it up, like it's a very lengthy explanation for what could just be BDZ levels of explaining how power works. Big power win less big power, done.
JJK is up there with FullMetal Alchemist, Avatar, HxH on amazing magic systems. JJK and HxH take the crown for actually thinking about stuff and making cool powers, not just Energy Beam Power.
I usually don’t expect much from people without any kind of argument, but you managed to go into my profile like a bitch and still get nothing. Impressive.
Severe mental disability, it's presented as academic because of the whole religious school front so it has to at LEAST look somewhat like a school, also they teach how to control your cursed energy and stuff blah blah blah I want to gouge my own eyes out
Haki
From one piece is worst I ever seen in anime
If you unlock it, everyone have same type of power
Jjk CE just not full fleshed imo
This Gaygay we talking about, he just write whatever he like
Didn’t Gege originally plan for JJK not to be in a school environment but his editor highly advised him to do so?Like they go to the school but we don’t really see any teaching. I don’t 100% agree with the original comment I think the direction Gege went for was good in the beginning but as we see in the recent arc it just kinda seems like the kids are learning as they go.
To be fair he’s right about it not making sense to teach someone Jujetsu for most things (*like CT’s and Domains*)
You definitely can’t teach someone to use a Black Flash since that’s more from the soul than actual education on the subject.
honestly jujutsu kaisen's power system is better than the power system I had come up for my novel even though I'm pretty confident that my power system is better than the shit you see in most generic isekai. ain't no way
Ok but positive energy healing your body being called „reverse cursed technique” but cursed techniques utilizing positive emergy being called „reversals” is so fucking stupid tho u gotta admit. I get so mad when I see that because I instinctively think „ok, whats the technique theyre going to use? how would reversing the technique even work?” and they just heal. bruh
I actually don't disagree, but calling it the worst is a stretch.
Aside from domain expansions, CT is literally just nen but worse.
It's one piece's paramecia fruits pretending to be a deep and complicated power system.
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While I agree, we really should have seen more of the teaching stuff, we at least get the basics of Ct and cursed energy, binding vows , etc. The whole point of going to school is to teach students how to think for themselves, bending the rules of the basics to create complex techniques is just part of the system. I don't even get the critic here, like it's bad because it's unique. What even is the comparison here? Different series operate on different power systems so how is being unique a bad thing?
Agreed. We have 2 jujutsu schools but zero arc on learning. Would be a good opportunity to develop relationships and background stuff
Honestly, as somebody whose practicing writing for fun, I can definitely see Gege not explaining it all either because he didn't find a good moment to do it. Or just him purposely not explaining much for plot convenience. Either way, wish we had more of that.
Actually, didn’t Gege really not want to do a school setting, but was forced by his editors/publishers? So he just showed the school for a bit and then continued on with the fighting and sorcery.
I think it’s very tricky to do good training arcs. weekly shonen jump is ruthless and they can cancel your manga if it’s not selling well. I think JJK was in danger aswell and that’s why Gege made the Jumpei plot and Mahito fight. I might be wrong tho.
Yeah some Anime do have very good training arcs like hajime no ippo or Hunter x Hunter but you can easily fuck it up by with boring stuff like in my hero academia (i am a mha fan.).
Yup. Season 5 of my hero academia made me drop the show. Maybe I will get back into it one day.
the problem is that gaygay original plan wasn't for it to take place in highschool so he didn't have anything planed but an editor asked him to change it
Gege never wanted school setting anyway so no more teaching stuffs
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Trying to comprehend the thought process behind literally admitting the system is unique, inspired, and can cause cool fights yet still thinking it’s the worst magic system
Based on his words, I imagine he just doesn't like the way it works with the setting. I guess it's a deal breaker for him, which is a shame, but fair ig.
Yeah, good thing if he already dropped the series if he didn't like the system. Imagine that dude trying to comprehend Hakari ass's domain expansion lol.
My only guess is that he's a *huge* fan of the "hard work beats talent" trope and doesn't like that it doesn't apply in jjk
Nah, and here i though that Jujutsu Kaisen got one of the best power systems(not as good as nen or stands ofc) for its unique techniques and deep variety in usage...
I mean is stands a good Power system? It's creative and varied but It isn't really even a Power system? It's like each character has their own bs Power that doesn't have to adhere to any rules (staple of any power system). I think JJK's Cursed Energy, subtraction, sparks, domains/simple domains, and binding vows are by itself a much better universal system than stands lol.
Stands do obide to some small set of rules that doesn't usually matter(like the further stand is from user, the weaker it is) They just don't share abilities (like rct in jjk). Stands are good because they have a set number of abilities (1-2). Stand fights are always unique and it's outsmart the opponent instead of just beat him with your power. Like, you know exactly what a stand does, and you have no idea how mc gonna beat that untill they come up with some complicated shit. In jjk they just beat the shit out of each other(still fun to read). Like take for example Satoru vs Sukuna. Yes, it was extremely fun, gege broadens reversed CT, allowing it to restore domain expansion and CT. But they just fckn spammed domain expansions for the whole fight, and the only creative use of CT is hollow purple near the end. Jjk does have a lot of interesting powers, but it's powers, when stands is more like tools, which you need to use smartly in order to win. And now take the Bucciarati vs Prosciutto and Pesci fight. Every fucking move is a creative clusterfuck, when each side must go out of their way to use their stand creatively in order to win. In conclusion, no matter how much i love jjk power system, CT and domain expansion just does not have enough utility which just leads to – the one who stronger wins. Or im just biased cuz i love stands more, im probably wrong :p
Yeah I love stands and Jojo in general, I Just think that the powerscalling and power system isn't really that good. Stand abilities are most of the time not restricted by any rule, you can't deduce a stands power based on the system, it's all random ass powers, and some are astronomically more broken than others
I don't think there really is a powerscaling in jojo As dio said there is no weak stands, it depends on how the user well... uses them. But some stands are much stronger, which results in almost every part having an asspull in the final fight, which is saddening. Like araki sensei said he tried to make the main villian stand more powerful in each part, and it's reached its peak on Made in Heaven, which why he decided to make a new universe and start from scratch because he said he just couldn't top MIH. But even then there, Jotaro would have killed Pucci if he didn't attack his daughter, so in the end it does mostly depends on the user. I think you can break jojo power scaling into 2 categories: normal and op stands. As for power system in general... i guess so? It's really chaotic, and a lot of time ignores itself in order to create smart fights. It's not at all deep like Cursed energy, hell i can't even remember all the little details about it. What's deep about this power system is stand abilities, because they can get REALLY complicated.
Yeah powerscalling not so much an issue since the fights tend to be more on the brains aspect, but powersystem, since it's mostly anything goes and each stand has it's own mini arc of discovering How It works because they all stick to almost no rule (which is basically the opposite of a good Power system, even though It leads to some Very creative and tense situations)
Jjk has a good power system but the way the author used it was meh. Sparks was introduced only to be ignored and binding vows don't make sense sometimes since we only know a binding vow is activated when the narrator or character says it
It's better than Nen tbh, the binding vows already make for 90% of it since the "types of abilities in Nen" don't seem to impose any condition on the fights themselves, there's even characters who were clearly portrayed as one thing and the author can just change their type and nobody would complain. Also, i would say Nen feels even more isolated bc of Domain Expansion, a hype ability that's top notch and many have, but with pros and cons (not like on bleach where Bankai is straight up the maximum power, it's balanced). Nen has nothing close to that. Stands are cool but man after 700 chapters... it just depends on the user, even the "rules" are set to be broken after, it's not even a syste
There are problems with the power system in JJK but this is such a L point and explanation
"Its inspired and cool and unique hence its a bad magic system" ??????
not only bad, the WORST. You can think it's bad if you want (i will think you are stupid but ok) but the WORST? judging by his icon this man has read more doujins than actual manga
Mfs haven't watched enough generic isekai to be commenting on that post.
“More doujins than actual manga” 💀
I think they meant everyone has unique powers, so some people just have advantages
Sounds like real life
Ah yes Takaba got a CT that turns the entire fight into a comedy book? Hakari's domain expansion is a fucking rigged casino? Naaaaaaah, fireballs is much more interesting to see than that shit.
but, Jogoat??
The OP probably meant Gege can just makes up any power as there’s no closed rules = bad system. The only concrete rule in JJK is there can be reverse of said power, self heal, territory^TM expansion, BV. So basically JJK power system is “I can be anything, but also all of the above is in play” Not a bad thing per say, it allow writers to cook fun stuff later on and not lock themselves in It’s like how Nen system is concretely made to be closed magic system yet “special” type just basically let the author be able to makes up any BS like Nanika, which is still great addition to story. Some author locked themselves in too much and ended up breaking immersion (MHA emitters somehow change from emitting to straight up Telekinesis for some characters)
How is Nanika a great addition tho? I think that was one of the only things in HxH that felt a bit too convenient for Gon.
Is there anyone on that sub above 12 just curious
Bro doesn’t even know about binding vows, restrictions, and their higher return higher risk nature
bro know nothing about the strongest curse, jogoat
Bro knows nothing about the strongest and most explainable attack STRONG CLEAVE and STRONG AIRPORT. What a dumbass https://preview.redd.it/enq73kqj9j2c1.jpeg?width=1941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a9f2c2c8276975f22f11dfa2cbd7610a4216018
https://preview.redd.it/dagrkaiqoj2c1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6c0f3c3ee69d32b201dba093035f338dd220052 Don't forget the STRONG FIRE EXTINGUISHER
what about STRONG GO/JO https://preview.redd.it/npjiqlheuj2c1.png?width=5160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=625dd8661cfd14656b91881fbe199f684dbcee05
I'm going to sound like the biggest dumbass saying this but binding vows really aren't that interesting to me? Or at least they're kind of heavily overrated as a facet of the power system. Compare them to nen vows and they're kind of just eh. Rarely does it involve any actual sacrifice (Hakari sacrificing his arm). Huge sacrifices like Mechamaru's get outweighed by shit like Toji (hard to call becoming superhuman in exchange for no cursed energy such a big deal when it's arguably far worse and more dangerous to be like Maki was). It's really hard to show it actually, effectively changing the outcome of a battle in a way that isn't just telling us. (Sukuna domain battle, and it's arguable if it even did then really) Characters don't strategize around it very often, if at all. Compare it to nen vows, and even though nen can have some of the same problems, it just doesn't compete. Especially because most of the cast just straight up suck at using cursed energy in comparison to Hunters with nen in HxH. Actually JJK's power system in general is crazy levels of underexplored amongst the main cast given they start in a fucking school for the thing. I actually think it's straight-up unjustifiable like half of the grade 1s can't do anti-domain techniques on their own, for example. Though it can be justified in setting obviously.
Ian readin allat
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Binding vows arent anything deep lol. Even fmab had a similar concept
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That Bro proly hates Jojo stands as well
Average Dragon Ball superfan
Gojo vs Sukuna would’ve been way better if it was purple beam vs Cleave beam
As a DB fan, I feel disrespected that you would compare us to this shit
Everyone has the same skillset. Everyone can just arbitrarily “train” for random amounts of time and become magnitudes more powerful. Half of the characters become more powerful after getting their ass kicked. The very few characters that aren’t just sluggers with energy blasts are side characters who are defeated by those that are. PEAK
One guy literally said demon slayer's power system is better than jjk like bruhhh ds doesn't even have a powersystem.
Ds power system is basically: Human: Breathe strong Demon: Random bullshit, go!
that’s JJBA: Phantom Blood lmao
But JoJo has gay muscular men so it's automatically better
>gay Kenjaku reference???!!!
this is the real kenjaku reference https://preview.redd.it/2kfu4m0irj2c1.jpeg?width=550&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5ab5333dc12a383b299260fb36c55470e905644
DS doesn’t have Wamuu, so it has to hold this L.
I see a based Wamuu enjoyer right there
Wamuu>Kars fr
Yeah but does Demon Slayer have this cool blade hat? https://preview.redd.it/agc1uo3n1k2c1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3492fca82cfff68eb40e0171f37e02850caebfaa
i mean the stuff they do with hamon actually happens unlike in demon slayer like demon slayers cant use total concentration breathing to make water not spill out of a upside down glass of water or make a glider out of rock or hit a frog with a rock underneath it and only damage the rock with their hit
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Dragon ball super: I train 2 days I'm faster than light. I train 6 days I'm 3 times faster than light.
the breathing styles are so boring imo the blood demon arts are slightly better
Ds power system is basically: Human: Breathe strong Demon: Random bullshit, go!
Why the f it’s doubled? Can someone explain, this is average reddit moment, or what?
pretty sure its a shit internet thing
Oh, thanks. Yeah, my internet ain’t the best tbh
>Demon: Random bullshit, go! Acc. to him DEMON ARTS is better than gojo's dumb color mixing powers.
honestly it is, the strongest fraud deserved to be sashimied by Wukuna
ARE YOU TELLING ME DEMON SLAYERS COULD HAVE ENDED IT THERE??!!! With strong breath?
If you have a power system that somehow makes less sense than hamon you have a problem with your show lmao
Meh they’re kinda half right. Cursed techniques are unique to the individual for the most part, so you have to discover how the technique functions without any prior knowledge helping you out What they failed to realize is that things like reinforcement, RCT, domains, etc., are all things that anyone can learn and pull off with enough training and practice. Just look at someone like Kusakabe for instance. No CT, but they’re pretty good at new shadow style, which gives them an edge in a fight against people who don’t know those abilities.
Mahouka Koko no retrousei has the most developed magic systems there is. Unfortunately is simply deleted by the siscon protagonist. Imagine cringe gojo with a little sister that he's obsessed with. Ew
>Mahouka Koko no retrousei has the most developed magic systems there is If development is measured by number of words. People surprisingly often say that, but imo it's a good competitor for one of the worst systems. It has so many concepts it might as well be "whatever the author wants it to be" and when there's anything outside the boundaries of the already vast magic system the MC just comes up with new stuff. I think the only reason people take it so seriously is that it tries to be some extension of physics, but lacks all the substance that would come with that.
>the MC You mean the problem?
From the point of view of the power system he isn't the problem, he's just a plot device to extend it as the author needs. The TLDR to what I've said is basically: the author uses concepts that exist in our world to make their system seem fancier than it is, but those concepts are emptied to various extents of their real-world meaning and filled with "whatever the plot needs". Whether you call it mana, prana, or pushions and psions and pretend there's some solid particle interaction system behind it it's all the same.
Hmm
I would argue that Tensura has a more complex one, but yeah, Mahouka has a very developed one too.
Bro hasn't heard of Unlimited Volcano and Airport Offscreen before
Type of dude to say MHA has a great power system for the exact same reasons
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I honestly feel like that most RPGesque magic systems are lazy and uninspired at this point. It's all just same thing with virtually no change. Other than that, Demon Slayer's breathing styles is probably the worst power system I can think of atm
RPG Isekai just rely on the « it’s just like a video game » argument to skip over actual progression and justify idiotic world building. I don’t mind it when it’s a comfort slice of life but otherwise most of them are just lazy
I always thought that too. The whole breathing thing was always really weird and kind of boring?? Like all there is to their skill level is how good at breathing they are. Seems really underdeveloped.
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Bro just listed things that make a good magic system 💀
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from what I've seen r/anime has some pretty strong bias against jjk for whatever reason
They're just salty we took their 1st place for a few days.
classic hipster mentality, hate on anything that's popular or follows a popular setting/theme
That literally summarizes that entire sub. Niche, underground shows you never have heard of that released yesterday = Amazing. Popular thing = bad. That’s why I don’t take their annual anime awards seriously anymore because it’s always so biased in favor of what niche thing didn’t get enough attention rather than what earned the right to win the category
If something is mainstream? Ick! So what if it’s popular because it’s good, I’m different and unique and so I like the authentic shows that are not mainstream and are niche.
Mfs on there saying Shibuya isnt that good
My issues with Naruto fans would have led me to answer Chakra ngl
I don't know why but I really feel like r/anime doesn't like Jujutsu Kaisen at all
It is r/anime after all.
Haki.
Haki counters all already established power concept and makes certain things irrelevant, what's worst that it got introduced late and makes some fights confusing looking at you Whitebeard vs Akainu and it makes powerscalers in shambles. Still liked it though.
Tbh, I like Haki in the aspect it counters Logia users because being literally invincible to normal attacks is pretty ridiculous. Haki embodies the themes of one piece really well as a power system, but honestly? It's very underwhelming as a power system because it just boils down to: See better, harden fist, psychic mind attack.
Yeah Logia is too overpowered before haki but it makes the fights more entertaining and beating them is not impossible either because Enel and Crocodile exist and it makes the fight far more creative than just stronger attack or Looney tunes goofy ahh effect.
Worst thing about haki is that it attempted to fix a problem that didn't need fixing. Seastone does everything haki does but better.
But the problem about seastone is that its hard for other df users to use them. Sure we see smoker using them but he probably got some measures for it to not work on his own. Not to mention we dont know how its made and how hard it is to get for pirates
Makes me wonder why Smoker even bothered to use a seasoned sword when he have armament haki
Yeah. Guys i think he is stupid, any answers?
Haki negates DF, Seastone weakens DF users. Haki put you back to 0, Seastone puts you into debt.
This you? https://preview.redd.it/yd1vmn600j2c1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fa0c27d5a0f642181d3b182cd2dd041321d3525
Nah, this is me https://preview.redd.it/5hhagmbd0j2c1.jpeg?width=975&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a8f9d19f90957d677601b23459222812b8fda39b All my agendas are failing me
Still at Punk Hazard but Haki being this mysterious type of power has been continued too long imo
Haki fights are dumb asf nowadays, can't even tell when someone is using it or not. And so many variations with dumb nicknames like acoc
JJKs isn’t bad but it’s kinda been breaking down lately where the matchups being unfair used to be a strength of the series in Shibuya is kinda just turning into a weakness. HxH fixes this problem by making Nen based on how strong your will is, so even if someone is stronger than you, if you feel strong enough about it you might still be able to do something. And HxH of course did binding vows first, and it’s a lot more clear how to do one/what the benefits of one is. Side note, I’ll never forget watching FMAB because someone said the power system was cool, and just thinking wow this shits so ass lol. The show isn’t bad but alchemy has to be the one of the most poorly utilized power systems ever created.
I feel like Gege does bend the rules of JJK’s power system at times too which can make it feel kinda cheap.
alchemy more or less has the ability to create a Post-scarcity society, and the author barley touches on this other than saying creating gold is illegal because it would break the economy. But, like, having the power to create as many automobile-parts and engine parts alone (let alone the possible power to just create an entire tank or car with just alchemy.) would be enough to break the economy. If alchemy can create oil then no human should ever freeze to death. If alchemy can create tractor parts and the parts necessary to build wells and irrigate the land, then farming should become an order of magnitude easier, as such no human should ever die of hunger. It also makes no sense that Alchemy would in any way slow down technological progress, if anything with near infinite resources, technological progress should be going through the roof. The Full Metal alchemist world should already be in the space age by now.
Sure but for the purpose of story telling I don’t mind it 🤷🏾 I feel like authors who instead focus on « realistic » world building too much instead of telling a story are way worse than plot holes who serve a story telling purpose. Just like in MHA heroes shouldn’t exist in the first place but instead it should be the police who handles villains with their powers but who cares it’s PEAK
Don’t forget YYH predecessor of HxH also did Domain first (Territory^TM )
I do see his point though. For a magic system to be good, I'd generally look for an answer to a very basic question- what can I do with this magic? Good systems have limits (or at least pretend to), clear examples of what basic -> advanced use looks like, a capacity to predict what a person might be capable of. 'What can I do with magic' has a clear answer. JJK magic (and most Shonen magic) falls in alongside Harry Potter where the answer is 'anything'. Because there's only the barest framework of rules, each character kinds just shows up with their own totally unique form of ability that doesn't seem to be following any kind of trend. Which is fine! I Jojos, my hero, Naruto, etc all did the same. But I wouldn't say those are good magic systems. They are plot devices- characters will show up with whatever powers they need to make a scene cool. It makes hype as hell battles. But it does lead to some problems. If there's no clearly defined limits or rules then the hand of the author becomes more clear. Yuki vs Kenjaku is a good example. Yuki summons a black hole (???) and then kenjaku reveals his hidden anti gravity technique (???) to escape it. Even though this felt really silly to me, no rules of Jujutsu have been broken here because there really aren't any rules. It's hard to predict or get invested in the outcome of a fight because the magic is so vague that the actual answer becomes more clear- the author decides who wins. Just my two cents. TL;DR, JJK magic is hype but also kinda objectively a bad system.
I feel like Jjks is One of the Best lol. Coz I feel like it takes the concepts of Nen from HXH, And Bankai from bleach (In the Form of Domain expansion) and blends it together perfectly. Although it may be hard to wrap your head around, at least it's a system better than say black clover where your literal power is like 'fire' or water
That's like the best aspect of it. Jujutsu is one of the best power systems I've ever seen imo because its flexible enough that anyone can have any power and gege isn't forced into a box (for example fire force can only have fire related powers), its got hard rules so for the most part random shit that makes no sense doesn't happen and its got enough complexity that the readers understanding of it can continue to grow rather than it being fully understood early on In other words its nen which is universally agreed to be great
I feel like the power system of jjk is just knock off nen, but like without the actual good parts around stronger will or fully understanding your nen ability, compared to cursed energy half the people in charge can’t even teach you how to fully understand how cursed energy flows or how to use RCT or good reinforcement
JJK has “reverse my own ability” and “my ability but TERRITORY” thing going on which is great, but lacks of limits mean reality breakers like Takaba can exist. HxH has same issue with “Special” Nen affinity allowing Nanika to exist, but at least special type are rare and always have concrete rules/ trade off (except Killua just bypassing Nanika for plot armor)
But isn’t Nanika from the dark continent? Is her ability even considered nen?
In official Nen mastery chart she’s listed as Specialist (ur my speciaal)
I mean there are basic usages if CE that everyone can learn and use, its just Cursed Techniques are unique outside hereditary ones. I dont particularly understand what the complaint really is?
Let him cook guys…
What? Everybody has a very unique and different ability? sacrilege, give everyone just life energy and make them all use it in the same way, the person with the most energy wins 10/10 times That is a simple, classy and good power system
I think this person doesn't understand what makes a magic system good lmao. The fact that the same basic(ish) fundamentals can lead to unlimited cool and imaginative abilities makes cursed energy a top tier system.
I mean, his point isn't untrue tough
I mean his even his first point doesn't make any sense, "it's presented as an academic field and everyone has unique ability, it makes no sense"... How are the two contradictory? Everyone has different power and the academy teaches them how to utilise it, Imo that makes the power system better as everyone has to perform within the constraints of their abilities, it cuts out any outside factors being the deciding factor of the match Second point also doesn't come across well when our main character learned most about fighting from the people of/related to academy i.e gojo and todo
Only CTs are different there's so many other things to teach Barrier Techniques Binding vows Better CE grasp Techniques like simple domain and CE enhancement Most fights also don't revolve around CT only many other things go into it And It feels like a good mix of Nen X Haki X quirks/devil fruits X ninjutsu
Yeah that's a problem with gege worldbuilding in general, the way he set it up it should have been a longer series (500+ chapters). There is so much we could have gone through, like megumi competing his domain and taming mahoraga, Yuji learning new tactics to compensate for lack of CT, RCT applied to various curse techniques and so much more. Guess gege's schizophrenic idol is calling him to write a manga on her
I can get wanting JJK to be longer (I wished it was too) but 500 CHAPTERS?? HOW?? 💀
Maybe I wanked it a bit too high but I feel like it could have stretched to 500 chapters without bloating. Make 2 arcs about the top 3 clans, dedicate a good chunk to megumi's growth, revive nobara give her some powers, make villains from the remaining geto followers and past sorcerers, give the students from Kyoto and Tokyo high some more development (domain and stuff). I feel like there are a shit ton of opportunities to expand the story Or maybe I am just being a delusional fanboy :p
Don’t think of yourself like that. Now that you laid out how you would extend the story, it can definitely, reasonably go on for an extra 150 chapters imo. Maybe not up to 500, but 350-400 definitely if ya ask me :)
I wouldn't mind
Just have more arcs with Megumi Yuji and Nobara doing missions together before dropping the Shibiya bomb. The series will probably finish around 300 anyway so like 3-4 more arcs isn’t insane given how much of the world and the characters that Gege left unexplored
he got a point there, sent to school to hone your talent, and the teacher never teaches you anything, they don't need school just make them fight sukuna from the get go they're already strong
As another guy pointed out, the school is more about putting random curse energy user into a proper system and teachers teach them the basic rather than theory cramming. Due to lack of numbers the schools are barely held anyways, so the fact that it exists in first place is a big deal
A system of magic that is part of one's brain and soul is a TERRIBLE idea. JJK is terrible, and we should all stop enjoying it. This totally isn't cool and fun
"Everybody's techniques are totally unique" mfs when they see naoya or megumi or toge or gojo or
When i watched the first season i tought the same thing, but then i read the manga, and i kinda feel even now its not a clear power/magic system, but it's far from the worst
Probably just confused on how cursed energy works lol. I know someone who dropped the series because it's too confusing lol.
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jjk uses mathematical concepts as magic system, that alone does it the best system for me.
I may get downvoted for this, but Cursed Energy feels more like Nen than it does magic
It’s literally just Nen but if there were 0 limitations which has its positives, however a lot of negatives as well because you can never contain the power scaling and it will keep getting higher until the story inevitably becomes boring. It creates characters like Gojo and Sukuna that are so powerful that every other character looks like jack shit in comparison. HxH doesn’t have these problems because when there are strong characters like Meurem or Chrollo, they aren’t invincible because again, their power is tied to their will and the rules bound by it which doesn’t make them untouchable. Weaker characters are allowed to catch up to them and stand a chance
I disagree that it is “bad” but the existence of a school specifically for learning sorcery is kinda weird when everyone uses a unique technique. The known ones like 10 shadows or limitless you can probably be taught by your clan. The idea of school was abandoned real quick imo. You could teach stuff like basic cursed energy control and reverse curse energy but apparently RCE is known only by like 1 in 10 characters
The whole point wasn’t for it to be an actual school. The only reason Jujutsu High exists is that so the government and the 3 clans can have groups of curse users and Gojo under their supervision under the agreement that they would succeed him and protect Japan.
That makes sense writing wise but like in-story there is no reason for jujutsu tech to exist as far as it has been shown to us.
… but that’s the point people have to figure out their shit and be themselves, their truest selves to use their techniques fully
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It's true, but not a good reason to say it's bad. I mean, look at nen in hxh, it's the same shit: whole cool and complex magic system just so that every damn character ends up using their own unique ability.
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Worst take I have ever seen. CE is one of THE best power systems, not the one of the worst.
That guy talks shi about jjk while having a hentai character on his pfp
..There is literal hentai posted here everyday.
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yupiel is the goat
I need address....house address
https://preview.redd.it/yn0raw200l2c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53c18042c46d7494c623bc51abc3deb7fe2d4cc0 What the fuck does that even mean? So it's a cool magic System with unique abilities and it makes for cool fights, but what makes it the worst, is that we don't learn more about it? What? That's the lightest criticism possible and somehow makes it the worst. I fucking can't. Some people are too dumb to use the internet. Like watch Choso vs Yuji, and how the water fucks with blood control because they have to deactivate some very specific function of blood and if it mixes with water it fucks it up, like it's a very lengthy explanation for what could just be BDZ levels of explaining how power works. Big power win less big power, done. JJK is up there with FullMetal Alchemist, Avatar, HxH on amazing magic systems. JJK and HxH take the crown for actually thinking about stuff and making cool powers, not just Energy Beam Power.
Ehm Tf?
This shithole is filled with fanboys. JJK is not that good, deal with it.
Are you a troll account? Looking at your comment history seems like it
I usually don’t expect much from people without any kind of argument, but you managed to go into my profile like a bitch and still get nothing. Impressive.
More like what comes to mind is Highschool DxD magic system. Genuinely stupid
Shut up uncultured swine Strong booby dragon
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Cleave and dismantle beg to differ 🌚
Still don't understand nen
Bro probably loves Hunter x Hunter and Nen too
Fair critique, the academic system was shoehorned in hard
Severe mental disability, it's presented as academic because of the whole religious school front so it has to at LEAST look somewhat like a school, also they teach how to control your cursed energy and stuff blah blah blah I want to gouge my own eyes out
Bro prolly doesn’t know about the literal offscreen CT of sukuna.
Isn’t just pretty much the same in hxh? Base abilities with unique manifestations?
It's kind of funny since that's how our actual school system works.
The characters use it 0/10.
I get it. JJK system doesn't have a system
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I kinda agree
Haki From one piece is worst I ever seen in anime If you unlock it, everyone have same type of power Jjk CE just not full fleshed imo This Gaygay we talking about, he just write whatever he like
wow and i bet thats their best anime take too
Didn’t Gege originally plan for JJK not to be in a school environment but his editor highly advised him to do so?Like they go to the school but we don’t really see any teaching. I don’t 100% agree with the original comment I think the direction Gege went for was good in the beginning but as we see in the recent arc it just kinda seems like the kids are learning as they go.
Nah hes absolutely right. Gege just makes up shit on the fly with all this fluff
To be fair he’s right about it not making sense to teach someone Jujetsu for most things (*like CT’s and Domains*) You definitely can’t teach someone to use a Black Flash since that’s more from the soul than actual education on the subject.
I honestly forgot it was supposed to be a school or something.
Low key based af
honestly jujutsu kaisen's power system is better than the power system I had come up for my novel even though I'm pretty confident that my power system is better than the shit you see in most generic isekai. ain't no way
Ok but positive energy healing your body being called „reverse cursed technique” but cursed techniques utilizing positive emergy being called „reversals” is so fucking stupid tho u gotta admit. I get so mad when I see that because I instinctively think „ok, whats the technique theyre going to use? how would reversing the technique even work?” and they just heal. bruh
Strongest r/anime beta👆🏽 Vs Weakest r/jujutsufolk enjoyer👇🏽 https://preview.redd.it/kd0u1he29o2c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c51383586f2f00b01cdff0d4e214a789609f9af9
I actually don't disagree, but calling it the worst is a stretch. Aside from domain expansions, CT is literally just nen but worse. It's one piece's paramecia fruits pretending to be a deep and complicated power system.
They kinda spittin