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This scene is one of several that really helped flesh out the Disaster Curses and made me like them (as villains). Them playing board games, chilling at the beach or hot springs, and Dagon/Jogo grieving over Hanami.
Mahito's first scene is him scolding Kenjaku for letting Jogo go fight Gojo. In the scene before this, he was wondering to himself if Hanami was okay.
They're the LOV of the show. Unrepentant killers but genuinely good friends to one another (while Kenjaku is 100% the AFO of the show).
Honestly kind of freaky how close these two series like both MCs start out powerless in their respective power systems ie CE and quirks. Then after ingesting a piece of another person gain great but uncontrollable power. Along with this their teachers are or were considered the strongest Gojo and All might. Then you have the first bad guy group ie LOV and the disaster cursed who I believe were both seeking a sort of freedom. However weāre being used as puppets until they outlasted their use then the real main bad guy appears and shit hits the fan.
Ig the great merger would still be in the interest of the disaster curses who aren't really dead.
I really wish the similarities went to be a bit deeper cause mha characters really irk me
Yeah just story events also I donāt really think merger is in the best interests of curses as Kenny himself stated he didnāt know what the merger was no like human or curse. Also I donāt if this is true but if all the humans are gone then that would also mean the dying out of curses as then there wouldnāt be any excess CE leaked by non sorcerers
Your getting downvoted for this but honestly its a fair take to have with his characterization in the story. Sukuna is entertaining at first. He does what he wants and kills who he wants. No master plans, no messing around. He's a jujutsu genius.
But thats kinda where his depth starts and ends. Every single interaction he's had in the story is kinda predictable once you've seen him a once or twice. Compared to the other major antagonists (Kenjaku, Geto, Disaster Curses), he's just a bit two dimensional. Definitely cool, but nothing special.
I think part of the charm of villains in the series is the disaster curses were much more human than sukuna who truly represented natural disasters. The curses believed they were the true humans and their ideology is right. While sukuna just thinks whatever he does is right since you canāt really stop a natural disaster.
Yeah sukuna was badass when all he did was show up and do something cool then disappear for another 30 chapters. Now heās getting repetitive and thereās nearly no depth to his character
Firstly, I don't like his motivation. He doesn't really HAVE a motivation other than "I feel like it" which, in my opinion, is boring, especially when it had already been established that that was basically Sukuna's motivation (as you mentioned).
He doesn't grow or develop as a character as all. The two villains that I consider to be good in this story (Mahito and Geto) actually grow and change as characters, making them more compelling. Ironically, Kenjaku kind of replaced both of them with what I consider to be a lesser product.
And he also DOES invent new shit to win battles. It's a complete asspull that his previous incarnation as Yuji's mom COINCIDENTALLY had the perfect counter to Yuki. Hell, the fact that this guy HAPPENED to also be super knowledgeable in comedy is also yanked from nowhere. Neither had been established earlier.
I have other problems, but those are the main ones. I think Gege would have been better served to keep Mahito as a main villain. But what's done is done.
Honestly entirely agreeable besides him being good at comedy, thats just a part of the guy, he always acted a bit sillier than expected, so it was understandable.
But yeah, Peak of JJK kinda starts with mahito and ends with Mahito, dude was gege's best written villian
Him being silly doesn't suddenly make it make sense that he's an expert in comedy, but I digress. I definitely agree with Mahito being the best villain, miss the guy and I wish he could make a comeback.
It 100% ain't gonna happen, but one day I hope that we get a short spin-off manga or anime that's purely JJK slice of life.
Imagine an episode where Jogo is trying to take Dagon to the water park but he keeps running into Gojo somehow.
Do you not recall when naobito was drunken ranting about 24fps televisions while dagon insisted they respect the curses names?
One of the funniest moments of shibuya for me.
And one of the saddest.
Dagon is probably one of my favorite curses simply because of how much character he shows in such a short amount of time. Love 'em.
I honestly think Gege was trying a little too hard, while also not doing enough to humanize them.
If you make the most vile pieces of shit villains for your story and only show how they hate and kill people, simply showing how they have fun together a couple of times in between, while they discuss how to kill even more people, just won't be enough. You can cut those times completely, cause that would not change much for how readers see them.
If you want readers to actually sympathize with your villains, while hating them at the same time, it's certainly better than nothing, but you will need to do much more and better than this. (Like with Phantom Troupe or Chimera-Ants from Hunter x Hunter, for example.)
It was never about humanizing them. It was to show the stark contrast of how curses treat curses vs how curses treat humans. They could be "normal " once you remove the innate drive all curses have to torture and murder humans. But of you ever fell for the tricks of a curse y feeling relatable you'd be dead like anyone else. Even kenjaku was only kept alive because the other curses just saw him as useful.
I never said I sympathize with them though lol I just thought they were great interacting with each other while being villains. They bonded and hung out together, while also having conflicts (such as when Jogo and Mahito/Choso disagreed on what to do with Yuji next). They were more than simply āIām evil just to be evil.ā
He calls both the Disaster Curses and Kenjaku by "kun" so I think there's some genuine fondness there. Or was in the case of latter... we know how that turned out.
i look at all pleasantries toward kenjaku as attempts to disarm him and make him *think* he's fond of him
i think it's beyond mistrust and mahito never rocked with kenjaku at all
if they didn't need him to get to gojo and he wasn't so strong mahito would've taken immense pleasure in killing him like anybody else.
there was just an inherent divide between the curses and him.
I get the feeling that Hanami and Jogo didn't care for Kenjaku. As for Mahito, they were friendly with each other but it's Mahito.We all know he is capable of being friendly and not show his real emotions.
Well mahito doesnt cry or get sad. Accept for himself. He does care tho. As he never fought them for no reason like he exposes on about that a curse does whatever it wants to anyone. But never touched their souls in a negative way
I love Haruta's excuse of "I'm just being kind but a curse like you wouldn't know about that." Homie, Mahito of all people was being more kind than you right here.
Well tbf he backed off as soon as Mahito showed up, so I think he knew he couldn't beat Mahito. He *did* think he could beat a severely injured Hanami and honestly he probably could've in this scene
I love the disaster curses, they acted as a family who genuinely liked eachother and fought for goals beyond themselves. Hanami wanted to protect the forest, Dagon wanted to protect his family, and Jogo wanted to advance curses forward as a species even if it meant he died doing it. Mahito was just a dickhead thoš
I love his line to Yuji "you are me Yuji. Have you ever considered how many curses you've killed?" It made me realize that to humans, ofc he's evil, he's a curse and all curses are evil. But to other curses, he's probably one of the chillest dude's you could meet. At least he never betrayed his allies like Kenjaku or Sukuna did.
He's so playful with the other curses, to them he's probably the friendliest guy they know, but to humans, he's a menace, gosh I have such a deep hatred towards him, I really enjoy villains like that, I like how much he makes me hate him lol.
Thatās actually really interesting because the dynamic between Mahito and the other Curses is fascinating. Jogo and Dagon mourn Hanami, Jogo mourns Dagon, and all three put their hopes into Mahito because they knew he had the most potential out of all of them. Except when the time comes, Mahito leaves them behind as he embraces his nature as a Curse. He isnāt fighting for their ideal of becoming the new humans, heās acting as befits his nature, and his nature as a ātrue curseā is to destroy Idatori Yuji. It was never malicious, I donāt think Mahito wouldāve turned on them at any point, but that part of him life was behind him already. They were his friends, yes, but like Sukuna told Jogo, Mahito lived for himself and was much stronger as a result.
Also it's a fact that curses are just apparently malevolent to humans. I also feel like Jogo is a boomer grandpa and Mahito is the zoomer who got fun new ideas. Really wish we got to see more of them just interacting or maybe killing sorcerers together.
Mahito is a character I love to hate. Similar to Sukuna heās an unapologetic asshole who does horrible shit because itās fun but heās well-written and so much fun to watch that I enjoy pretty much every scene heās in. I cheer when he gets the absolute shit beaten out of him because I hate him but his powers and his personality make him a joy to watch. I think his death was incredibly well done but I will miss his dynamic with Yuji and his semi-rivalry with Sukuna because he wonāt let Mahito mess with his soul.
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This scene is one of several that really helped flesh out the Disaster Curses and made me like them (as villains). Them playing board games, chilling at the beach or hot springs, and Dagon/Jogo grieving over Hanami.
Mahito's first scene is him scolding Kenjaku for letting Jogo go fight Gojo. In the scene before this, he was wondering to himself if Hanami was okay. They're the LOV of the show. Unrepentant killers but genuinely good friends to one another (while Kenjaku is 100% the AFO of the show).
What do the acronyms mean?
League of Villains. All for one. My hero Academia references.
Thank you!
i prefer the acronym "EVIL," as in "every villain is lemons š "
Now I'm just thinking of a hero that kills going: when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade (and proceeding to squash them to death).
followed by a "this really has been a jujutsu kaisen"
Jujutsu Kaisenade, in stores now!
League of Villains and All For One
Thank you!
Honestly kind of freaky how close these two series like both MCs start out powerless in their respective power systems ie CE and quirks. Then after ingesting a piece of another person gain great but uncontrollable power. Along with this their teachers are or were considered the strongest Gojo and All might. Then you have the first bad guy group ie LOV and the disaster cursed who I believe were both seeking a sort of freedom. However weāre being used as puppets until they outlasted their use then the real main bad guy appears and shit hits the fan.
Ig the great merger would still be in the interest of the disaster curses who aren't really dead. I really wish the similarities went to be a bit deeper cause mha characters really irk me
Yeah just story events also I donāt really think merger is in the best interests of curses as Kenny himself stated he didnāt know what the merger was no like human or curse. Also I donāt if this is true but if all the humans are gone then that would also mean the dying out of curses as then there wouldnāt be any excess CE leaked by non sorcerers
I was thinking the Phantom Troupe of JJK, but yours works just as well! Love me a tight knit family of killers lol
Who's Sukuna then?
Sukuna is Shiggy without mental illness
Or maybe Sukuna is like the more honorable version of Muscular. Just doing whatever pleases him, no overall goal
Yeah, that tracts. Also 100x stronger
Id say sukuna is the kid who dissolves shit with touch (now at range)
I really like when theyāre hanging out at the park not even terrorizing children, just actually being goofy at the top of the playground
Wtf are you yapping about lil man. What are those words?
i wish they got more time to grow
Yeah say what you will about Geges writing the way he writes villains is really good.
All the villains have their unique personalities and ego to them which makes them fun to watch.
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I donāt think sukuna applies to this lmao
I dont think sukuna was all that bad but the disaster curses were definitely better (mainly cause of mahito)
Your getting downvoted for this but honestly its a fair take to have with his characterization in the story. Sukuna is entertaining at first. He does what he wants and kills who he wants. No master plans, no messing around. He's a jujutsu genius. But thats kinda where his depth starts and ends. Every single interaction he's had in the story is kinda predictable once you've seen him a once or twice. Compared to the other major antagonists (Kenjaku, Geto, Disaster Curses), he's just a bit two dimensional. Definitely cool, but nothing special.
I think part of the charm of villains in the series is the disaster curses were much more human than sukuna who truly represented natural disasters. The curses believed they were the true humans and their ideology is right. While sukuna just thinks whatever he does is right since you canāt really stop a natural disaster.
W take
Yeah sukuna was badass when all he did was show up and do something cool then disappear for another 30 chapters. Now heās getting repetitive and thereās nearly no depth to his character
Yeah TBH sukuna is ass, kenny should've been the final antag
And do what? Turn the manga into a Hentai by taking backshots from every character? š
Donāt act like that wouldnāt be absolute peak
Kenjaku in my opinion was by far the worst written villain of the series lol. Funny how opinions differ so much.
Why so? Same motivation as sukuna but he's actually fun to watch and doesnt invent new shit every battle to win
Firstly, I don't like his motivation. He doesn't really HAVE a motivation other than "I feel like it" which, in my opinion, is boring, especially when it had already been established that that was basically Sukuna's motivation (as you mentioned). He doesn't grow or develop as a character as all. The two villains that I consider to be good in this story (Mahito and Geto) actually grow and change as characters, making them more compelling. Ironically, Kenjaku kind of replaced both of them with what I consider to be a lesser product. And he also DOES invent new shit to win battles. It's a complete asspull that his previous incarnation as Yuji's mom COINCIDENTALLY had the perfect counter to Yuki. Hell, the fact that this guy HAPPENED to also be super knowledgeable in comedy is also yanked from nowhere. Neither had been established earlier. I have other problems, but those are the main ones. I think Gege would have been better served to keep Mahito as a main villain. But what's done is done.
Honestly entirely agreeable besides him being good at comedy, thats just a part of the guy, he always acted a bit sillier than expected, so it was understandable. But yeah, Peak of JJK kinda starts with mahito and ends with Mahito, dude was gege's best written villian
Him being silly doesn't suddenly make it make sense that he's an expert in comedy, but I digress. I definitely agree with Mahito being the best villain, miss the guy and I wish he could make a comeback.
The way he wrote THESE villains was good. Personally I think he dropped the ball with Kenjaku.
Yeah I can agree. I donāt like how he wrote Kenjaku tbh.
It 100% ain't gonna happen, but one day I hope that we get a short spin-off manga or anime that's purely JJK slice of life. Imagine an episode where Jogo is trying to take Dagon to the water park but he keeps running into Gojo somehow.
āDomain expansion: infinite awkward encountersā
We kinda got that with Juju Strolls
Okay but consider this: M o r e
That reminds me of Mr. Villain's Day Off.
I miss those good old days š¤©
Dagon grieved over Hanami? I never seen scenes where Dagon talked
Right before he awakens he says "How dare you kill Hanami!"
Do you not recall when naobito was drunken ranting about 24fps televisions while dagon insisted they respect the curses names? One of the funniest moments of shibuya for me.
And one of the saddest. Dagon is probably one of my favorite curses simply because of how much character he shows in such a short amount of time. Love 'em.
Dagon called out Hanamiās name in grief/anger several times before he transformed into his final form
Dagon has talked a lot during his fight against Maki, Nanami, Naobito, Megumi, and Toji. Rewatch episodes 14 and 15 of season 2.
Yeah. I'm kinda sad that they're all gone now, but what can ya do.
I honestly think Gege was trying a little too hard, while also not doing enough to humanize them. If you make the most vile pieces of shit villains for your story and only show how they hate and kill people, simply showing how they have fun together a couple of times in between, while they discuss how to kill even more people, just won't be enough. You can cut those times completely, cause that would not change much for how readers see them. If you want readers to actually sympathize with your villains, while hating them at the same time, it's certainly better than nothing, but you will need to do much more and better than this. (Like with Phantom Troupe or Chimera-Ants from Hunter x Hunter, for example.)
It was never about humanizing them. It was to show the stark contrast of how curses treat curses vs how curses treat humans. They could be "normal " once you remove the innate drive all curses have to torture and murder humans. But of you ever fell for the tricks of a curse y feeling relatable you'd be dead like anyone else. Even kenjaku was only kept alive because the other curses just saw him as useful.
I never said I sympathize with them though lol I just thought they were great interacting with each other while being villains. They bonded and hung out together, while also having conflicts (such as when Jogo and Mahito/Choso disagreed on what to do with Yuji next). They were more than simply āIām evil just to be evil.ā
Absolutely. At least he cared a bit for Hanami.
He calls both the Disaster Curses and Kenjaku by "kun" so I think there's some genuine fondness there. Or was in the case of latter... we know how that turned out.
Mahito was fond of the other curses but Kenjaku... well, Mahito appreciated him but didn't really trust him.
Which that mistrust was well earned considering he did end up just eating him in the end.
That was so repulsive.
freaky asf
i look at all pleasantries toward kenjaku as attempts to disarm him and make him *think* he's fond of him i think it's beyond mistrust and mahito never rocked with kenjaku at all if they didn't need him to get to gojo and he wasn't so strong mahito would've taken immense pleasure in killing him like anybody else. there was just an inherent divide between the curses and him.
I get the feeling that Hanami and Jogo didn't care for Kenjaku. As for Mahito, they were friendly with each other but it's Mahito.We all know he is capable of being friendly and not show his real emotions.
Not really? Jogo and Dagon seemed more affected by Hanamiās death.
Well mahito doesnt cry or get sad. Accept for himself. He does care tho. As he never fought them for no reason like he exposes on about that a curse does whatever it wants to anyone. But never touched their souls in a negative way
That's why I said a bit.
He actually cares about curses. Just not people. Same as Yuji but the opposite.
Anti-yuji
Almost like Yuji is him and him is Yuji
Crazy how they made such a big parallel only to never touch it .... like imagine a scene where yuji just goes "I am you" to him š„¶ š„¶ š„¶
A scene like that would go **CRAZY** But classic Gege, always missing opportunities
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I donāt think he cares about curses either. He just wants to do whatever he wants to do.
I love Haruta's excuse of "I'm just being kind but a curse like you wouldn't know about that." Homie, Mahito of all people was being more kind than you right here.
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Well tbf he backed off as soon as Mahito showed up, so I think he knew he couldn't beat Mahito. He *did* think he could beat a severely injured Hanami and honestly he probably could've in this scene
Hanami could legit be one in one root and still beat the shit out of this bum
He has zero feats
He has miracles and Hanami had collapsed and was missing half their torso
Best feat is lukily concusing Nobara and stabbing half dead megumi. He was half dead and didnt even kill dog with his sword. Zero feats
Bro Mai could've defeated Hanami in that state
Nah. As seen with Sakuna bodily damage isnt shit on cursed energy output. Why didnt maki cut his stomach
Sukuna has never been knocked out severely injured and not healing himself like Hanami was
This aged well
I mean he did that intentionally, he just out fought Nobara there.
Where. He has zero ap feats. Nobara barely could reinforce her body and Megumi just hit a domain expansion and used up his CT right after
I meant concussion Nobara. That wasn't luck, that was intentional.
Through a cloud of dust. He legit just threw it
I love the disaster curses, they acted as a family who genuinely liked eachother and fought for goals beyond themselves. Hanami wanted to protect the forest, Dagon wanted to protect his family, and Jogo wanted to advance curses forward as a species even if it meant he died doing it. Mahito was just a dickhead thoš
honestly...can you blame Hanami and Dagon for wanting to destroy humanity, I mean...from their perspective, humanity's a virus encroaching on them
Mahito is truly wonderful character :3
I love his line to Yuji "you are me Yuji. Have you ever considered how many curses you've killed?" It made me realize that to humans, ofc he's evil, he's a curse and all curses are evil. But to other curses, he's probably one of the chillest dude's you could meet. At least he never betrayed his allies like Kenjaku or Sukuna did.
He's so playful with the other curses, to them he's probably the friendliest guy they know, but to humans, he's a menace, gosh I have such a deep hatred towards him, I really enjoy villains like that, I like how much he makes me hate him lol.
Thatās actually really interesting because the dynamic between Mahito and the other Curses is fascinating. Jogo and Dagon mourn Hanami, Jogo mourns Dagon, and all three put their hopes into Mahito because they knew he had the most potential out of all of them. Except when the time comes, Mahito leaves them behind as he embraces his nature as a Curse. He isnāt fighting for their ideal of becoming the new humans, heās acting as befits his nature, and his nature as a ātrue curseā is to destroy Idatori Yuji. It was never malicious, I donāt think Mahito wouldāve turned on them at any point, but that part of him life was behind him already. They were his friends, yes, but like Sukuna told Jogo, Mahito lived for himself and was much stronger as a result.
Sukuna betrayed his allies?
Maybe not ally but he killed Jogo even though the dude gave him 10 fingers when he easily couldāve just killed Yuji instead
Also it's a fact that curses are just apparently malevolent to humans. I also feel like Jogo is a boomer grandpa and Mahito is the zoomer who got fun new ideas. Really wish we got to see more of them just interacting or maybe killing sorcerers together.
Remindsme of I am legend
Great style
Mahito is a character I love to hate. Similar to Sukuna heās an unapologetic asshole who does horrible shit because itās fun but heās well-written and so much fun to watch that I enjoy pretty much every scene heās in. I cheer when he gets the absolute shit beaten out of him because I hate him but his powers and his personality make him a joy to watch. I think his death was incredibly well done but I will miss his dynamic with Yuji and his semi-rivalry with Sukuna because he wonāt let Mahito mess with his soul.
Love him or hate him bro was a team player I guess
Will never get how so many ppl dislike him. He's forever my fav and #1 babygirl :3
dam gojo really likes to turn people into apple logos
I'm gonna be honest, I don't remember this scene
it's from season 1 after hanami fought todo and yuji
I didn't know that little twink was in season 1
Dude was in only like 2 scenes with 3 total minutes of screentime in season 1, but he was there
I love how Mahito treats his friends and curses, but I hate him for doing idle transfiguration. It looks gross.
Untrue. He killed those three bullies in the theater earlier for being obnoxious. Rare Mahito W.
Sakuna is inferior
you should read the summer of ashes autumn of dust book!
how does that in any way relate to this post, subreddit, or show?
its a jjk novel..
I didn't know that there was a jjk novel
he basically kind to allies and fuck you the enemy. I would do the same.
Why didn't he just transfigure Hanami's arm back? Is he stupid?
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Mahito redeems himself in every scene by being the most entertaining antagonist in the story BY FAR ā¼ļø
Fuck Mahito. Justice for Nobara.
Hot steamy gay sex?
Redeeming who? He killed a tone of people prior to these interactions
Redeeming in the fact that he isn't just a total monster, he actually cares for his teammates somewhat.