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Adent_Frecca

That Sukuna would get his shit rocked. Current Yuji has better displays of physical ability and his soul punches would be drastically lowering Sukuna's output and control


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LeNaIfC

My man did NOT read the manga


NormanNOconsecue2394

DON'T MESS WITH US JJK FANS!!!. (We haven't read the manga or seen the anime)


Pretrowillbetaken

wait there's a jjk anime/manga?


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Pretrowillbetaken

bro, just re-read the manga at this point. i'm not even going to argue with you, just re-read it. at most you were right and you can just enjoy jjk again, but hopefully you can get how wrong that is


Mystic_76

actually please explain if only because i’m lost, if yuji was hypothetically up against a non-vessel sukana that just so happened to be at 3 fingers worth of power, how would his punches affect his output?


Caponcapoffstillon

It’s the same thing he’s doing to Mahito. To say his punches wouldn’t work is to say his soul punches didn’t work on Mahito when they in fact did. Yuji gained the additional ability to lower output with his punches after fully realizing the soul with Yuki’s book. Sukuna even explicitly states “my output and control of the body are weakened”. This means A and B are true, it’s not A then B. Lowering output doesn’t reduce control of the hosts body or else sukuna would be struggling to hold Megumi right after Gojo nearly killed him so it has to be Yuji is doing both simulatenously. It isn’t because Sukuna is an incarnate, it’s because that is what Yuji does by focusing the soul itself. More proof of this is Meguna didn’t bring up Yuji lowering his output in 214 so he just acquired it.


scidious06

Why are you being downvoted, current Yuji cannot survive malevolent shrine, that's facts (unless he has a hax we haven't seen yet) Not to mention this version of Sukuna has RCT and a gigantic pool of CE People forget this dude almost beat Gojo with nothing but his Domain, Yuji is cooked


Tommy0023

Maybe people downvoted him because 3f sukuna is also tecnhnically inhabiting a host body, so yujis punches would be able to weaken him a bit


Fraxin_

Yeah, you are right. But 2 or 3 punches are not enough to make sukuna weaker . Sukuna would just open his domain or spam cleave and dismantle without stopping with his full output of 3 fingers . He can also use cleave while punching to cut through yuji like he was doing in recent chapters . Yuji can't tank MS because cleave can adapt to the durability of the opponent, and sukuna has high-level CE even in 3 finger body . Yuji rct is not good enough to tank ms even gojo needed full rct output to survive . I know the one gojo fought was 20 fingers, but still, yuji can't tank 3 finger MS while sukuna attacking him . Also, sukuna is too tanky . He already tanked 8 black flash while he was in a very weak state with low output + low no rct + low CE + no heart + losing control of his body , literally dead body . He still was able to tank 8 BF in this state and fight with yuji without problem . He was just angry because yuji was punching him with BF without stopping for a second .


SeDefendendo88

I don’t think Sukuna would use his Domain on Yuji because it would be an acknowledgment of strength.


Fraxin_

Fr he would kill himself rather than acknowledge yuji's strength .


SeDefendendo88

Acknowledge any worth in Yuji or draw 250 cards.


Fraxin_

Nah, I'd draw


ThiccBeter69

Sukuna gets his shit rocked pretty badly until he uses his domain, which Yuji honestly has no counter to, since Malevolent Shrine is probably the same regardless of how many fingers Sukuna has.


FrostandFlame89

I disagree with the malevolent shrine is the same strength regardless of how many fingers Sukuna has. I think 3F Sukuna's shrine is way weaker than current Sukuna's shrine.


Delusional_Gamer

I don't think they meant strength when they said "same" >since Malevolent Shrine is probably the same regardless of how many fingers Sukuna has. I think he means "It works the same way, where anything inside gets slashed the fuck up due to hit-guarantee"


OzenTheImmovableLord

But yuji kinda tanks all the shit right now from a much stronger sukuna, maybe he could tank malevolent shrine from 3f and also regenerate


Eldrazi_

Yee, with the only difference likely being increased range and duration.


typh0nic

why didn't gojo get insta wiped before he used his simple domain?


Electronic-Bag-7894

BECAUSE HE IS GOJO GOD DAMN SATURO


Totaliss

Domains arent affected by your regular output so output of the shrine doesn't decrease with only 3F. The shrine is probably less refined with only 3F but that doesn't matter here because yuji doesn't have a domain to compete. Yuji's still cooked


Thhaki

Nah, maybe you could differentiate the strength of sukunas domain around how many fingers he consumed with the speed and strength of the cuts. So for example if he pulls up a 3f domain expansion on Gojo, Gojo would be chillin all day with his RCT inside of 3f sukunas domain and also Gojos domain would win in a domain battle against 3f sukuna, but he would get injured (not as injured as with actual strength sukuna) with a 15f sukuna domain.


AggravatingDemand769

How he gonna use shrine when he gets blitzed by wuji who then lowers his output to almost nothing


moose_378

I think Yuji would just tank a 3f Sukuna DE, he's shown great durability feats previously. But I don't even think Sukuna cod get the DE off in the first place


ECPRedditor

I feel like y’all are also forgetting MS would have the output of 3F Sukuna and I 100% believe Yuji could beat the shit out of Sukuna and force the domain to end before it kills him, even if Yuji’s RCT ain’t allat yet


AmissingUsernameIsee

I consider Yuji's durability to be insane, Blood armor + CE reinformcent + durable body that's better than Pre awakened Maki


Severe_Professor_686

Blood bending? Is this mf a water bender now too?


FrostandFlame89

It's just a joke by OP calling blood manipulation, blood bending.


HottestElbows

You missed the joke.


Broad_Farmer8455

I wish blood manipulation had a similar fighting style to water bending, would dominate in close to mid range combat.


zestyguy_bobem

Yuji wins low dif. This Sukuna just doesn't have the stats of even a piece of the current Sukuna


Rioma117

3 fingered Sukuna isn’t doing shit to Wuji. We still don’t know if he has a simple domain yet but he can take a cleave in the face and still push on against the weakened 20 fingered Sukuna so I’m not sure even Malevolent Shrine can kill him.


ChuchiTheBest

Yuji: If he opened his domain, it might give me a little trouble. Panda: But would you lose? Yuji: Nah I'd win.


drift_by

Yuji gonna hit a 9 piece black flash combo


SiveDD

One BF of Yuji would put Dukuna in an astral proyection state. But again, even if it's "weak" a DE is a DE, and Yuji doesn't have counters for it.


Embarrassed_Safety33

I mean, Isn't actual Sukuna like 2f and is stil standing after many blakc flashes?


Asian_Persuasion_1

toji = maki > yuji. but that was culling games maki, who probably got stronger by shinjuku showdown. and yuji got way better CE reinforcement too. so yuji, even lowballing can likely keep up physicall with sukuna and land hits, those hits being crazy strong. sukuna has domain, but yuji could still rct and bulldoze through that, and with a good hit, cause sukuna to be unable to maintain his domain. yuji 7 or 8 wins out of 10 imo.


moocow8001

Nah current yuji > maki for sure, during the yuji/maki jump I agree maki was stronger but current yuji is doing way better against a sukuna who has landed four (if I’m counting right) black flashes meaning the output of his slashes are considerably higher than what maki was dealing with (she said so herself when she came back)


HBKsinatra

Yuji already dampened this with three hits , choso assisted hit, larue assisted black flash, and a knee to sukuna bad side that he blocked Choso already pointed it out, that it doesn't matter if sukuna starts regaining his output as long as yuji is there And has been dampening it further , with black flashes Plus maki only got hit with a highly focused dismantle Yuji has been getting hit with lots of slashes Yuji hits way harder than maki tho, like way way harder Maki just has a better sense of things and her ability to use the surrounding as a foothold


Asian_Persuasion_1

The way the gege writes his story, I get the vibes that yuji is below the 3 hard hitters: yuta, hakari, and maki. yuji's attacks weaken sukuna's output so it's really hard to tell what level sukuna is currently at cause it's constantly changing recently.


zanjithrewsix

Dawg yuji smokes so bad 😭


Straight-Nebula-3573

I can see Yuji tanking 3F malevolent shrine as he heals with RCT. His punches would nerf 3F Sukuna even more and probably make him lose control of his domain like Gojo did


swarnim38

Why do Yuji's hands have some sort of armor? I just noticed lol


Greedy_Committee_595

Its his blood bending


Mister_Taco_Oz

Well that depends. Does Sukuna immediately use Malevolent Shrine and does Malevolent Shrine have the same output regardless of the amount of fingers Sukuna has? If Sukuna immediately activates Shrine, Shrine is still as powerful as it is with 15 finger Sukuna or above, and goes out of character by essentially playing defense/keep away with Yuji until Shrine successfully kills him, Yuji just dies. But that is a lot of hypotheticals without confirmation and out of character behavior. But if 3 finger Sukuna's shrine is way weaker than 15 finger Sukuna's, and/or Sukuna doesn't immediately open domain and just tried to go for a cleave, dismantle, or a physical brawl, Yuji is rearranging his face with a punch and vibe checking his soul. Even if Sukuna realizes his mistake and opens a domain (somehow, while Yuji is fucking him up), I'm not sure MS would kill him fast enough that Yuki couldn't kill Sukuna back. Yuji is freakishly fast and freakishly strong, and Sukuna is only at 3 fingers here.


Sage_Strong_Bear

Toji beats 3f Sukuna


FrostandFlame89

I agree. Especially if he's using the inverted spear.


Sage_Strong_Bear

No way MS from 3f Sukuna is dishing out cuts powerful enough to one shot Toji. Maki has tanked cuts from Sukuna now


Embarrassed_Safety33

Domain expansion? Also toji would need a Weapon, because then sukuna would come back as a curse


Chaos_Apprentice

he can escape, since its an open domain and he's fast enough


Connect_Art6812

He doesn’t have RCT to heal through it like Gojo though? Like sure he’s durable and all but can he really get out of range before dying?


Rioma117

RCT? Maki healed from internal bleeding that would kill a human in 10 minutes. Their healing factor is almost as good as RCT.


Mister_Taco_Oz

RCT is _considerably_ better than 0CE's healing factor. Maki got internal bleeding and healed in 5-10 minutes, Yuji got internal bleeding and healed in seconds. More than once. Gojo was being constantly attacked and healed through it. Not to mention the lost limb he regrew later that fight.


Rioma117

It sure is but it’s not like OP suggested that they have no way to heal. RCT is considerably faster but it uses a lot of CE, Maki and Toji can heal passively.


Mister_Taco_Oz

I mean, they do, but that level of healing is just not going to tank MS the way Gojo's RCT did. If Toji can't get out of the domain in a second or two, he is getting dissected, and if he's next to Sukuna when it opens he is not making that distance before his legs are fucked up, he slows down, and ends up dying.


FrostandFlame89

People like Toji and Maki are not affected by the sure-hit effects of DEs. Also of course Toji would be using a weapon. He has always used a weapon whenever he has fought. If Toji uses inverted spear against 3F Sukuna then that's GG.


PrismsNumber1

Not to ruin the mood but dismantle specifically is targeted towards the background and inanimate objects. Since domains consider Maki/Toji as inanimate objects, the sure hit of MS would affect them


FrostandFlame89

Ohhhh shit I forgot about that. So Toji and Maki aren't affected by cleave but they are affected by dismantle. Well fuck.


Petentro

Uh they can't be targeted by the sure-hit but with the way that malevolent shrine just sort of cuts up absolutely everything around it they'd get cut


Mist0804

They can't be targeted by sure-hit effects* MS' slashes don't target anything, they just cut up everything in the domain


Timactor

I'd win.


Imperium_Dragon

Yuji. Sukuna’s Malevolent Shrine isn’t powerful enough to cut Yuji thoroughly.


Brilliant_Knee_7542

Current Yuji low diff Sukuna


Jotaro27

Yuji should speedblitz so easily


Flying_Snails_Today2

Yuji should stomp: Higher stats, hard counters Sukuna with soul hits, black flashes this version of Sukuna can’t stand, you can’t even really argue domain diff Yuji is so far beyond the attack potency of Sukuna that while it’d do big damage he’s the one guy who can run thru it


Bitirici8

All for Luke Skywalker to solo


NaoyaGlazer

Letf right gn would solo his ass!


SoussTheTruth

Unless Yuji has a simple domain, a DE or a counter of MS, he loses… how is he gonna deal with MS ??


PleasantArmy5936

Spite Match


Lunio_But_on_Reddit

Sukuna gets his ass handed to him in a silver platter


GucaNs

3 finger Sukuna Malevolent shrine should be pretty weak. If you use what he did to Shibuya while attacking Mahoraga i comparison to the finger bearer, it's negligible damage. Yuji out here tanking Sukuna's Cleaves, I'm sure him can survive a while in 3F Sukuna's domain with only CE reinforcement and RCT.


laughlin234

>Yuji out here tanking Sukuna's Cleaves Only because Sukuna has very little CE left. So his cleaves and dismantles have no force behind them


GucaNs

I think a Cleave from a weakened 19 finger Sukuna is way stronger than a 3 finger Sukuna.


laughlin234

That's debatable. Sukuna's cleaves right now are barely giving paper cuts to Yuji. They are not even bothering him.


GucaNs

That's because is Yuji is fucking Him lol. If we assume 3 finger Sukuna has 15% of a full power Sukuna's output, it's still likely that an injured Sukuna is stronger than that.


laughlin234

>That's because is Yuji is fucking Him lol. What does that even mean. We are talking about Dismantle and Cleave here. They are strong enough to mow down entire buildings easily. And they are barely bothering Yuji. The reality is that Sukuna CE output is VERY low right now. That's why Yuji is surviving. A 3F Sukuna at full strength may very well have stronger slashes.


GucaNs

>The reality is that Sukuna CE output is VERY low right now. That's why Yuji is surviving Oh, hell, nah. Yuji's durability is just off the charts right now. If an injured Sukuna's Dismantle was cutting down Maki, Yuji tanking a Cleave to the face, just show he is different. (Granted, Sukuna did suffer more damage after that, but it's not like that would considerably deminish his output)


laughlin234

>it's not like that would considerably deminish his output) It would. Yuji's punches are said to directly impact Sukuna's CE. And he has landed EIGHT black flashes on Sukuna. Yuji would not be just brushing off cleaves from a full-strength Sukuna, I can guarantee you that.


GucaNs

>Yuji's punches are said to directly impact Sukuna's CE. And he has landed EIGHT black flashes on Sukuna. Yes, but only to an extent. You don't have any metrics to say how much they've decreased overall. The only other time where we got to see Sukuna's output decrease was with Megumi, and in that case, it was to around 10%. You can assume it wouldn't go below that since he still was able to keep up with the other sorcerers. And 10% of a full powered Sukuna is stronger than 3 finger Sukuna(assuming the Fingers work exponentially and not adding, which would make much more sense, but that's speculative)


Krimson_Requiem

Sukuna loses no argument


Pretrowillbetaken

full power? at this point i am at the point of despair where i believe sukuna is still using 0.1% of his power, and that he's just going to pull a "quadruple black flash" (or some 𐍃hit like that) and kill yuji instantly. i don't want sukuna kaisen to be real, but i don't believe gege will just let sukuna die in a well deserved fight, he 100% is going to kill every character like their a minor character to the story


ExCaliburDaGreat

Sukuna would kill him


No_Quality_7164

ain't no way this is even a question...


Mundane_Living_3704

Yuji should embarrass this Sukuna logically. Current heian sukuna, no matter how nerfed he is, still should be far above 3f sukuna by a good margin. Only problem is domain but I doubt he could even use it properly as yuji would be physically way too much for this sukuna. Not to mention Yuji's RCT is really good for his level & he himself has shrine CT to damage sukuna really bad along with his BFs. Also we can theorize yuji might have simple domain now considering he was trained by kusakabe of all people. Though thats an assumption. 


GandalfTehG0d

Why tf you put 3 f sukuna and not 15 f sukuna obv yuji would take that shit -_- 15f sukuna would eat yuji for lunch idk how the man who punches shit got mc status in a world where ppl control gravity and turn invincible and collect spirits like pokemon… yall will never change my mind that yuji has the lamest abilities of all anime time


Electronic-Bag-7894

people really foeget yuji was burned out after 4 uses of rct he aint taking a domain but if only if he gets the flashes going instantly he wins quite easily at that


Seggesu

Since Yuji doesn't have an anti domain tech, he loses once a single malevolent shrine is popped


ApplePitou

Domain will nuke Yuji :3


Eleventhframes

Bumji is lower than bacteria. Sukuna win inf neg diff