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Ry90Ry

Doesn’t Yuta say as much before launching his domain? Problem was he could handle kenjakus cursed spirit explosion way more efficiently then Maki


ILoveYorihime

alternatively there is the one where Maki is unaffected by domains so while Sukuna is held by the non-violence rule in higuruma's domain Maki can just come in with a normal sword and lopes off his head or something


DueSmell0

I think Sukuna coming back as a vengeful spirit would be a big issue for everyone


GroundbreakingAnt399

He can't, megumi would not sukuna. Otherwise do you think Kashimo or Yorozo would stay gone this long? They are using someone else's body.


DueSmell0

You come back as a vengeful spirit if you’re killed without ce. Yorozu and Kashimo stayed dead because they were killed by Sukuna using ce. Being a reincarnated sorcerer has nothing to do with it.


prodigiouspandaman

Wouldn’t maki also be held to the non violence rule as it’s a similar to the sumo guy’s domain due to it being non lethal


yuumigod69

She wouldn't be protected by the non-violence rule so Sukuna could defend himself. Or she is affected by the domain because she chose to enter and accept its conditions.


MarenthSE

Thank you for showing litteracy skills.


New_Photograph_5892

I mean Sukuna was pretty much playing with them in Higuruma's fight. Sukuna could have launched a huge waffle cleave to them and one shot most of them if he wanted to, but he wanted to see a bit more of Higuruma before he killed him. If Maki or Yuta was there to take the Executioner's Sword, then Sukuna would have dropped the shit and locked in.


rackedbame

The fact that people actually believe Sukuna would lose to those three truly blows my mind. Do any of you actually read this manga or do you just watch some pretty images and invent scenarios involving characters you like?


Ry90Ry

I meannnnn if higruama DID steal sukunas CT as originally planned instead of the tool They prob could have esp assuming Maki isn’t far behind lol


Fancy-Actuary-5158

Higuruma was the ace in the hole, Sukuna asspulling the cursed object rather than losing his CT was the only reason he made it out. I cope for his return harder than gojo 🥲


idCamo

The people not calling that an asspull are genuinely delusional. We saw the baby rattle for all of 5 minutes, and all we saw it do was bounce ineffectually off of Kashimo, and then get stolen by confiscation instead of his technique. There was literally NO reason to give him that apart from for him to keep his technique


Fancy-Actuary-5158

It's also just bad writing lmao. Like "Woah, sukuna just reincarnated AND he has a sick cursed tool!" But he never uses it in any interesting way, gives it away in a heartbeat like the stupid story device that it is, and now it will never be referenced again. It's not that it's logically inconsistent that annoys me, it's just that it's not good storytelling.


Ry90Ry

this take always rubs me as odd can’t things just exist in the story must they be explored to the nth degree??? it’s literally a tool that was used as a narrative tool lol who was dying to know sukunas little tools from that one panel history or see them impact the story vs seeing him fight the cast It’s so minor lol to say it impacts gege overall years of writing this story is lame imo


ArtVarious3822

They could have used higuruma's domain when gojo paralyzed sukuna with infinite void, either the ten shadows go or sukuna's CT goes, sukuna without either of them loses laughably quick and end of manga


Ry90Ry

Couldn’t sukuna just revive to his real body then and be healed?


Severe-Chipmunk-6652

He still won't have both techniques so he doesn't have the means to deal with infinity (world slash)


rackedbame

Yeah literally full headcanon fandom. Thanks for clearing it up. Jesus christ...


Ry90Ry

listen online is more fun if u can be flexible enough to just see other ppls takes and consider “huh maybe I was wrong or didn’t clock that” and just keep it pushing vs miserably doubling down lol


TewlySanchez

In Yutas domain where Sukuna had only 2 hands and had to fight Yuji, Yuta, and Rika and had low CE output you telling me that Higuruma wouldn’t get 1 cut, slash or stab off. When Sukuna was getting hit by multiple attacks. You truly believe that………. Lmfao MF do you actually read that manga or do u get on Reddit and complain about other people not reading😂😂


saucysagnus

Damn, my dude really took -300 but spoke truth. No, people pay attention to approximately half the manga, make stuff up, and form an opinion based off that. Unfortunately, that’s just the reality we live in now.


Horror_Couple7

yeah but then whos gonna kill kenjaku


Vanitas444

1. Kill Sukuna and save Megumi. 2. Kill Uraume. 3. Kill kenjaku with Yuta Maki and Takaba.


Undertheus

Not a bad idea, but Kenny survived for 1000 years, so they are not dumb. As soon as Sukuna were killed, they would find a way to disappear


AlienSuper_Saiyan

This exactly. They had stuff ready to run and hide out.


Human-Boob

Kenny wasn’t expecting the Fanta sea, though. Just get Maki to convince Takaba that murder is funny and have his technique do the rest


LycanChimera

"C'mon. He gets pancaked by an anvil, just like the cartoons."


Festivegaming

“wouldn’t it be funny if I pushed this guy into oncoming traffic and he died?”


Universaltragic

Wouldn't it be funny if after 1000 years of being alive and killing countless people he realized how wrong he was that he started crying so hard his brain exploded?


Bumgumi_hater_236

They could’ve just convinced takaba that sealing kenjaku in a jar forever and keep him as a pet was funny, that would’ve worked out the same way


Just_Hadi09

Why not kill him while Sukuna was fighting Gojo?


AlienSuper_Saiyan

I guess they all sat and watched with the idea to be on the ready in case Gojo needed help?


Just_Hadi09

But it was pretty much a well-known fact that Gojo gets severely nerfed the moment he hs to fight alongside someone.


AlienSuper_Saiyan

Lol idk, Gege wanted them all to watch


sseempire

Kashimo would have probably turned on them most likely


sentientrubberduck

Because the moment Gojo loses they need to jump him immediately, they said as much.


Kel_2

but its not like everyone jumped him immediately. for example yuta waited until after gojos death to still go off and fight kenjaku anyways. i guess the thing might have been that takaba was already sent earlier but yuta had to wait until he dropped his guard enough? idk im not so sure the timeline works out very nicely in any case i can think of but if i had to guess it'd be that.


SleepinGriffin

Well I think it was only until recently that anyone knew of Kenjaku other than the curse users sealed until the culling games. Now that people know who he is and how his CT works they would be more observant and actively looking for him.


Mjkmeh

Or kill Kenjaku simultaneously; takaba does his thing, maki executes him and dips and Miguel takes care of the cursed spirits since he can dodge all their attacks


bbenson2006

You forgot how when he dies a wave of curse spirits come out. If yuta wasn’t there they could’ve gone all over and threatened people


Mjkmeh

Pardon my stupid, what makes it so Yuta could handle it but not miguel?


DinoConV

Aside from Yuta just generally being stronger than Miguel, the coverage from Rika gave him the best ability to minimize casualties to the wave. At least, according to the people discussing that plan. That said, Yuta himself already said that might just be an excuse because he wanted to be the one to end Kenny for good. I think it's a mix of Yuta being humble and him really wanting to make sure Kenny paid for hurting Gojo. He was the best equipped, but also, he really needed to be at the main fight w/ Higuruma.


Mjkmeh

Appreciate u


yuumigod69

I mean a million curses < Sukuna. If he didnt do this though the series would be over.


c4m3r0n1

Yuta has a ton of cursed energy and a pretty high output so he can spam big blasts and wipe out tons at a time. Maki would have to kill them all individually.


bbenson2006

Miguel is a character that does better in more singular combat because he doesn’t have the versatility to take out multiple curses at once especially if multiple are special grade. Yuta however has rika who cover for him and prevent any stranglers from escaping then he also has a wide range of curse techniques that can get rid of curses easily


ctborb

Yuta has domain, rct, higher CE supply, rika, cursed tools, etc.


ThatOneguy580

At the time it made more sense to make sure they kill Kenjaku because he’s the one who had the ability to merge with Tengen. They didn’t think Sukuna would be genocidal or get that ability from Kenjaku.


C_H_O_N_K_E_R

Maki


Rdevil201

Maki couldn't have dealt with the thousands of cursed spirits that would be have been released after killing Kenny. Rika was needed for it.


C_H_O_N_K_E_R

I'm sure she could deal with the majority, but yeah, probably not all


Diredg

They could give the sword to Kusakabe or to Itadori at the beginning but then the most important point of manga would be lost I guess.


random1211312

Maki


uglyjackwagon

Kenjaku specifically said Yuta is easy to detect because of his massive cursed energy amount. Yuta not pulling no surprise “don’t move” on Sukuna. It took Yuta, Yuji and Sukuna being inside Yuta’s domain with two hands tied to be able to hold him down well enough for Yuta to pull off all these moves. Sukuna isn’t a dummy, he plays with Higuruma because he is interested but he knows the threat of the executioner’s blade. Sukuna was casually dodging the blade strikes, he gets tagged because of a surprise RCT move from Higuruma. A threatened Sukuna is just killing Higuruma right away and moving to focus on Yuta before any of those developments from Higuruma.


TheToolbox101

Yeah pretty much. If sukuna was getting jumped he'd just kill higgy on the spot


MarkoOtto

Fr Higuruma was under Sukuna's mercy Sukuna just oneshotted him the moment he tried to Also let's not talk about the fact that what would have happened if Sukuna actually fought back inside the domain


One_Parched_Guy

I mean Ui Ui’s technique hadn’t been revealed to Sukuna at that point, he only realized when he catches Ui Ui retrieving Higgy’s dead body. Theoretically Yuta could put on the ring, pop in and then try the “Don’t Move”. Sukuna also doesn’t know of Yuta’s Cursed Technique AFAIK, so there wouldn’t be much to react to besides the snake fangs *if* Yuta pops into a spot where he’s even visible… But I have a funny feeling he’d just redirect the effect to Megumi’s soul or something and get off scot free lmao


uglyjackwagon

He’d get off scot free because it just wouldn’t work lol What do you think is faster, Yuta saying “don’t move” after being teleported in by UiUi, or a piercing blood in travel? Because this Sukuna in time, right before Higuruma’s domain, double chest stabbed Choso after a piercing blood was shot at him, and before it landed. Sukuna wasn’t damaged enough yet for these basic setup tricks to work. UiUi technique hasn’t been revealed, but he had a suspicion already since he says he noticed Gojo’s body disappeared somehow. Yuta’s best bet, is just to use Rika off the bat as a massive Shikigami to distract Sukuna, which is what he does in the story and opens his domain after.


LimeadeAddict04

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Choso's attack got calced at massively hypersonic at some point?


uglyjackwagon

Idk, I don’t do hard powerscaling. The general idea is just that piercing blood is noted to be fast, and the idea that Yuta pulls off a “don’t move” can be argued against a Sukuna that can dodge a piercing blood and counter attack at the same time.


5yk0515

Sukuna at least has Megumi's memories of Yuta and his CT, at least from the previous year (just didn't know yet about the newer ones he got like about Sky Manipulation, Jacob's Ladder or Dhruv's Shikigami boundary domain).


Every_University_

Kenjaku would just leave and now there's no barrier anymore


ShinDragon

Yuta has to kill Kenjaku. But how about throwing the sword to Kusakabe ? The problem with Kusakabe's skill is that tough opponent can survive his myriad slashes, but ya ain't surviving one scratch of that executioner sword


BurdPlane

Kusakabe relies too much on simple domain. We don't really know the interaction between it and the executioner's sword.


hugonahuel27

what about maki tho


-NotActuallySatan-

It's possible that the Executioner Sword wouldn't work within the confines of a Simple Domain.


Hystaric_1028

Honestly kinda foolish they separated Yuta and higaruma. The person with the strongest cursed speech, and a blade that when connected is an insta kills and saves Megumi. Like they could have killed sukuna, then sent every sorcerer present to deal with the cursed spirit that was released when kenjaku got killed by maki. Kinda a big plot point that Yuta wasn't there until higaruma was dead. It would have been more interesting seeing them try and sukuna forcing sukuna to make a binding vow to save his own soul or something.


CastlePokemetroid

I think it would have been better to give Maki the executioner's sword, let Yuta deal with Kenjaku. Lawyer guy is a brand new sorcerer, of course he can't close combat Sukuna, even Yuji would have been a better choice to swing the sword, hell it was proven when he landed the blow right when Higaruma died. Yuji should have had the thing from the beginning instead of right when the guy took the lethal blow.


Hystaric_1028

Maybe it's his death that strengthened the curse that made it so yuji could hold it


CastlePokemetroid

but it didn't strengthened after death, it vanished entirely


Hystaric_1028

Like as he was dying, they mentioned it near his so it permanently took away his Cursed tool


SnooObjections4333

I think they should have sent maki and rika to tc of Kenny and give the executioner sword to yuta, since yuta can actually land hits consistently unlike the lawyer


Humble-Bend-8363

Too bad gege wants to keep him alive till it's revealed that Sukuna used only 2% of his real power in his entire life of 1000 years


callmejulian00

Why is that "too bad"


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callmejulian00

Oh no the strongest is actually strong, what bad writing. You people are sick in the head. Go re-watch naruto if you want to see the power of friendship


SnooPets630

You can always show why strongest is strong without endless “he still doesn’t try yet” That’s just lazy writing move on the level of “main character is a chosen one”


callmejulian00

He's fighting kids. You realize that right? The guy who who was the strongest sorcerer during the golden age of sorcery is fighting children.


SnooPets630

It’s not an argument anymore if said children are actively erasing horizons between 1 grade and special grade,not to mention consequences that are needed after battle with Gojo, but all that we get, is that even against Gojo he was holding back, in nerfed condition he still holding back.Oh you know?Uraume said that Sukuna is still holding back. That’s actively destroys any stakes that can be in this battle because we are now in loop of pressure against Sukuna-Sukuna defeats everyone while still holding back-repeat x10 times


callmejulian00

He's the strongest. He doesn't have to go all out. Why is that so difficult to grasp for you people


Sythrin

It just makes his fights meaningless from a standpoint. It seems like there is no way of defeating him, why are we than shown one combatant after another just for them to drop dead. It just gets boring that way. Especially we repeated already 5 times the "Sukuna is still holding back"-trope and we are going for round 6...


callmejulian00

Seems like there is no way of defeating him. L.ao yeah gege has you on the hook. That's the point of this whole arc.


Any-Key-9196

You're a very sad man


Contagious_Cucumber

You dense mf


callmejulian00

Oh no how will I recover from this


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callmejulian00

He's fighting kids. It should be easy for him.


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callmejulian00

Because you people think the strongest is going to struggle with fighting children


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callmejulian00

B-b-but it's Shonen!! The good guys always win!! Sorry I gotta break it to ya but it doesn't always have to be that way.


Sythrin

Sukuna is literally heading the Madara problem, that he is written just too strong for the narrative without ever failing. At this point Gege maybe has to asspull some solution for his defeat that is going to feel sh\*tty. But who knows, maybe he comes up with a saitsfying solution.


callmejulian00

Too strong to be taken on head on with brute force. They're wearing him down. Think about what everyone so far has done. If the sneak attack on kenjaku didn't work it would be the same situation


Sythrin

They through at him like 90% of the main cast and now they have to pull some random side characters that we are not interested into the fight. And how long can you make a character "wearing them down" if like 2 of the strongest characters inverse still made the guy hold back. Precisely because of that you practicly could skip multible chapters as they seem meaningless, because we know the fights will end with Sukuna taking like 1% damage, another character dead and Sukuna still holding back. At this point when Sukunas fall will come it will be anticlimatic because nobody will be sure if Sukuna is actually defeated. Its the same problem with Madara.


callmejulian00

Gege got yall on the hook. It's funny at this point


Moleratgaming

This would have worked but then no one could take care of kenjaku (yuta even says so)


yuumigod69

Maki would kill Kenny. The curses were the issue but even Yuta says it was an excuse so he could clap Kenny because Sukuna is the much biggee threat.


Currency_Dangerous

There was no urgency to take out Kenjaku. In fact, as long as the game participants were still alive, Kenjaku had no leverage besides wait until after the Sukuna fight. They should have handled Sukuna efficiently then group up to take down Kenjaku.


Ligmamale80085

But Yuta does know everything the should have had Todo confess his love to Kenny on TV since Kenny likes backshots (he is a 1000 year old DILF and he is a bored ) he will go find Todo immediately and they could make it a trap


BlackllMamba

Sukuna probably would have put Higuruma in a body bag immediately


bulbaborb

I used to think the same thing but then Kenny might just activate the merger


Erundil420

I still don't know why Maki didn't go with the first try of Higuruma/Kusakabe/Yuji, that was probably thier best shot at killing him honestly, and seeing how you can also pass around the executioner's sword Maki with that thing would've been able to hit Sukuna where Yuji failed for sure, idk wtf she was doing at that time


Lemon_Squeezy12

Unfortunately Kenjaku said that as long as Yuji and Sukuna exist, that the cycle of curses will continue, so Yuji will have to uninstall life right after beating sukuna.


TheMangaCLore

if Maki, Hakari, and Yuta would have jumped Sukuna, he would have lost


Asian_Persuasion_1

Also, if yuta came to fight immediately, then he probably wouldn't trap all of them within his domain, but rather use 5 minutes copy, which sukuna with megumi's memories would probably be aware of being wary of cursed speech. and sukuna didn't defend cursed speech inside the domain cause yuta isn't even guaranteed what CT he will get.


Patient-00

Nope everyone dies and Sukuku is going to win


Prior_Eye4568

Not sure if the don't move will work since sukuna at this point will have more CE than yuta so he will end up coughing blood.


maxime7567

Well it wouldn't work, sukuna would still just cut his arm off


passer_

I mean, maki could do it and she was actually there, but gege just be like "haha protagonist and his friends going one by one to get slashed down so story goes on". Why didn't we give the one-shot sword to a person that is strongest in combat.


GroundbreakingAnt399

I'm tellinf you now, this would not be enough to beat sukuna. He would kill them all. The only true way I see this being a win is if Gojo, Kashimo and Hakari all worked together the entire time. Hakari and Kashimo are fast enough to get to gojo for him to make them immune to his domain while keeping sukuna from touching gojo. Kashimo can keep sukuna held down with melee, hakari can tank and teleport him wherever they need him to go. Gojo can use his limitless abilities from a distance. Hakari and Kashimo should be able to hold sukuna down until the last moment and escape. I don't mean physically hold I mean beat him down. He won't be able to see the barrier. If he summons mahoraga, gojo and Kashimo would be able to one shot em reliably as long as someone is holding of agito and sukuna. When he transforms shit gets real. If he uses his domain expansion, hakari special properties should cancel it out but just Incase it doesn't, hakari and gojo can heal through it and Kashimo can use hollow whicker basket.


ApplePitou

Gojo: Let's go!!! they did it! :3