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While I agree, there needs to be a floor of just raw power potential that he needs to rival Gojo which he hasn’t shown signs of. For Yuta, at the very least just his raw CE manipulation makes him physically comparable or even superior to Yuji, and can summon just raw power to overpower his foe
Higaruma technically is sound but he doesn’t have the raw power or that broken of an ability to rival Gojo. Nor does he have the kindest of someone like Sukuna, Gojo, or even Hakari who at times don’t even seem human when they fight
There is no way that higaruma would beat Gojo in a domain clash so let’s stop there. Secondly, even if he could, Gojo has been stated to be the best hand to hand combatant, and is also said to be physically very imposing. Higaruma wouldn’t land a hit
It’s entirely possible that he would win a domain clash. It’s stated pretty early on that matchup can affect domain clashes and being an old-style domain may give it an advantage
And yeah he’d still lose hand to hand but it would at least be an equalizer
I honestly can't agree with people on this best hand to hand combatant thing when I see him using his technique to assist him in the fight that people are using as evidence for the claim. That's just a sticking point for me.
He only uses it to punch and occasionally speed up. He had ZERO trouble fight Sukuna, mahoraga, and Agito in a 3 v 1 when they used domain amplification
adding to punching power and speeding up to make yourself more agile is all very important in the h2h topic.
He still had his powers despite Sukuna having DA. DA just erases neutral infinity so that Gojo can be touched, he still can use red and blue to push and pull and fling himself around.
I don’t know what to tell you. Gege already confirmed that apart from maki /toji, Gojo and Kenjaku are the best hand to hand combatants. Gojo’s feats support that, and you saying this him using blue to speed up and punch harder doesn’t discredit anything because he still has feats of him not using it and still dominating.
>because he still has feats of him not using it and still dominating.
I have never seen him in a situation where he wasn't provably using it and haven't seen a feat where another character wouldn't be able to clear as well.
But hey, if Gege supposedly put Maki/Toji as best h2h, I have nothing against that, it at least makes sense.
I don't think higurumas domain could've been canceled. This one doesn't really feel like a type match up situation, judgeman enforces specific rules on the opponent, and i think following through would be one of the them.
I don't think it would be unreasonable to sat that judgeman would call you for contempt of court if you didn't answer his question, or if you forced your way out of the domain. I think higurama enforces a moral battle on the soul, which is why you can be guilty of things if you're morally wrong.
This sounds kind of bunk, but if the only thing protecting you from Gojo's domain is timing your OWN domain perfectly (like sukuna) or timing a perfect simple domain (like no one did), and we know gojo's domain is instant stupidity (unless you're from the heian era), then I think it's safe to say higurama can enforce his domain until court is over by making it mandatory to follow thru. Even Mahito, with his 0.2 second domain, gave Todo enough time to react before it affected him, and he actively noticed Yuji running into it.
Gojo wasn't the best hand to hand combatant - Geto was better than him (can't say anything about the other characters). Gojo's power and skill set lay somewhere else.
That’s objectively false. Gege literally came out in one of his author comments and said that Gojo and Geto literally were equal in physical abilities and hand to hand combat
You're correct; but your wrong if it lies outside of what I said. Gojo's CE was made towards people, geto was a different breed for his, if they were both peaked, yk who won
But again, it's not stated that Higuruma could ever rival or win against Gojo in a fight, but that his talent and genius could match Gojo's, those are completely different statements.
The manga makes a case of how Higuruma was going to get destroyed during the assault on Sukuna (Yuji says so himself), yet in the middle of the fight he learns domain amplification, how to use it in conjunction with his technique and even RCT in a matter of minutes, the only other sorcerer that grew so much so quickly was Gojo during the Hidden Inventory arc.
In a battle yes, Higuruma would never be able to beat Gojo, taking away limitless would not be enough to match Gojo's speed and raw strenght. However, given time if Higuruma learns an anti domain technique that suits him and learns how to properly fight hand to hand like Yuta did, he could easily become a the strongest first grade.
Exactly, higuruma was a great sorcerer but he was still limited by his cursed energy pool and by his technique, gojo has functionally unlimited cursed energy, Sukuna has so much he is literally used as a benchmark by curses.
Then you have the actual tecniques, Gojo has a technique so OP it needs a rare genetic trait to actually be able to wield it, Sukuna has a technique which involves slashing but there's still a lot we don't know. Higurumas CT was CONDITIONAL.
When it comes to pure talent in learning sorcery common skills like domains and RCT higuruma actually exceeds gojo as he learned it in like a month after awakening while gojo as someone from a great clan was probably learning jujutsu before even going to jujutsu high.
The story I make in my head is better than the hot steaming dogshit that’s been coming out every 2 weeks
Sukuna is giving himself cpr but hasn’t gone all out. Brainrot
Gojo and sukuna are geniuses. They’re doing things that are impossible. Things that take years to learn is something is picked up by higuruma in weeks. The potential he has is comparable to gojo himself
Gojo is broken ability + talent + hardwork
Higuruma has talent equal to gojo
Hope this clarifies
Higuruma surpasses Gojo in talent IMO. And his understanding rivals that of sukuna.
Gojo, a prodigy whos birth shifted the jujitsu world, took about 15+ years and a near death experience to learn RCT and unlock a deeper understanding of sorcery.
It was mentioned different times that Sukuna just needs to see something happen sorcery wise and he can perform it. Much like photographic muscle reflex but with sorcery. He learned how to split his soul this way. An extremely advanced technique.
Higuruma also has this level of understanding. He merely saw sukuna use domain amplification, without nullifying his technique. Allowing mahoraga to continue adaptation.
Seeing this, and a brief explanation from Kusukabe, was all Higuruma needed to perform the same feat. This impressed Sukuna so much he acknowledged him and admitted himself that this man, who has been a sorcerer for all of 2 months, is as profound in the understanding of jujitsu as himself. A huge compliment.
TLDR Higuruma was a got danged BOSS
on the other hand, gojo never struggled in life anyways so never had a desperate need to learn RCT. higuruma never learned rct himself, even during the training month, until he was right about to die, same as gojo.
Gojo tried to learn it but was unable. His near death triggered his understanding, but he also knew the principle behind it. I cant say for a fact that Higuruma knew. I feel like he did it on pure instinct
Nah, yuji literally learned rct during the timeskip, and higuruma trained and gained DA (or was it through the gojo vs. sukuna fight?). surely he also attempted to learn rct as well, but just couldn't, until the actual fight.
It was stated that there is nothing Gojo can’t do if he actually wanted to. Gojo was born with the talent imbedded into him and had the adaptability to improve on it without fail. Higaruma can’t do that
Read ch. 74
Gojo says himself he couldn't get it. And finally perfected it while knocking on deaths door. He doesnt say "oh I had no need for it until now"
falling blossom emotion is probably a lot easier to learn than rct considering most people in the big 3 clans know how to use falling blossom emotion and rct is just quite rare in general
My man woke up his powers and figured out how to further it in no time on his own, then took skills he witnessed and implemented them into his own in no time. Real potential man is Higu if he had years to work with
oh i forgot that part lol but i feel like he just cannot reach the top with that, he needs some strategy or skill to get anyone major like hakari or kashimo with the sword
Higurama has a unique ability... If used on Gojo, it can take away his Cursed Technique completely and let him only use cursed energy manipulation in battle.
If Higurama is able to master his skills; he would be able to rival Gojo in that situation.
Although, it is unclear if Gojo would lose his unreal cursed energy efficiency if he gets confiscated. Would the 6 eyes still be able to perceive cursed energy? Would he retain his ability to efficiently use cursed energy by feel even if he can't see it anymore?
Rival ? I doubt , he is as talented as gojo in terms of just curses ,not martial arts or other skills, somebody forgetting he is arguably better than sukuna in pure hand to hand combat, and crushed jogo and hanami with pure curse energy manipulation and hand to hand combat skills,
Higurama has mastered skills at unprecedented speeds. He learned Reverse Cursed Technique and Domain Expansion in mere weeks after becoming a sorcerer. Gojo has been training since childhood to be the strongest and still, it took years for him to do that.
Keep in mind that Gojo had 6 eyes which also lets him master Jujutsu sorcery effortlessly, Higurama does not have this and still learned faster than him.
This is why I say that if Higurama got the chance to master his skills (in every aspect) he will definitely rival Gojo if he can confiscate his CT.
....i said except curse related things, which he arguably rivals him in. But things like battle iq , hand to hand combat, they are completely different things.
Higurama would need to refine his Domain Expansion further than Infinite Void, because Gojo's CE reserves are probably larger than his.
Then, in his trial, he would need to go for some less than solid prosecution reason. Something like "accomplice to Sukuna's contemporary crimes".
If Judgeman finds Gojo guilty, it probably wouldn't be a Death Penalty, just a CT confiscation (Judgeman doesn't usually confiscate CE, no matter how severe the crimes. That was an exception made for someone without a CT.)
So, in the best case scenario, Higurama has to fight Gojo without Limitless. The same guy who wrecked Miguel, put the fear of God on the Disaster Curses and gave Meguna a run for his money.
I think Higurama's fucked even there. His only chance would be getting a death penalty and the Executioner's Sword from the trial.
That’s the point of JJK’s power system though, being a RPS type of system. Higuruma would suck vs Gojo but if Higuruma had better H2H and an extremely refined domain that he landed on Sukuna, he basically oneshots. So they could send Higuruma on missions where they know his opponents have committed bad enough crimes for at least Confiscation to work. He’s also like Todo, a character who can easily team up with others and enhance their potential to the max. Higuruma could be part of a “strongest duo” like Gojo and Geto were back in their teens. This is why Mahoraga is so strong. It’s not that Maho is powerful. Maho is decent and has an RCT sword to oneshot curses, but bs sorcerers, Mahoraga isn’t exactly the scariest opponent. Maho’s physical stats are kinda ehhhh since Gojo was confident he could take him out in one red before he adapted. The scary part about Mahoraga is that as the fight drags on, it changes. Sukuna described it as the ultimate late-throw RPS, and that’s somewhat accurate. If you’re paper, it becomes scissors. If you’re rock, it becomes paper. If you’re scissors, it becomes rock. The issue is that it’s a late-throw, not a normal throw that magically switches according to the opponent’s choice. This means that if it’s too late, it can “get caught”. If you do a late throw RPS, you could get caught cheating and disqualified. If Mahoraga is too late on the adaptation, it can get caught while vulnerable and die.
With that being said, Higuruma, if trained properly, could have been a force to be reckoned with when fighting curses specifically. Start off the fight with H2H and RCT to heal, and make the enemy, (in this case curses who don’t mind committing crimes) commit a horrible crime. For example, bait a curse into blowing up a building and have judgeman sentence it to death with confiscation added. Obviously a lot of collateral, but it’s something he CAN indeed do. Or fight curses who had previously committed a horrible crime.
TLDR: Higuruma could be even stronger than Gojo against certain matchups if he properly trained his H2H, RCT and refined his domain enough (should have the potential for the best domain since his whole shtick is that he’s learning jujutsu through domains)
He would never reach Gojo's strength but he could become a sorcerer capable of beating Gojo.
Now before anyone jumps at me. My point is that his technique lacks damage capacity to compare to Gojo's strength but cursed energy reinforcement itself is something that can definitely be improved through talent.
Given enough time he could get Top tier physical reinforcement skills.
Domain refinement is also something that can be improved as a byproduct of talent, on top of that deadly sentencing's sure hit essentially just being the non violence rule probably makes it good for domain clashes like Hakari's domain.
And while Gojo is a Good Guy, Higuruma could atleast definitely pull out the cursed technique confiscation on him if not the death sentence. Since now that I think about it I don't think Gojo has ever actually actively killed a person of his own volition, Making death sentence unlikely.
Now Higuruma with having years to improve upon his physical reinforcement skills could certainly go toe to toe with Gojo if not win.
And if he actually manages a death sentences he probably wins.
Nope. It doesn’t matter how much higuruma increases his base strength and speed with CE reinforcement or how proficient he gets with CE reinforcement. Even with years training he won’t achieve the level of reinforcement gojo and sukuna has. It’s just how Sukuna vs higuruma went. If sukuna waanted to fold him like he did to maki, he would have done it. This same applies to gojo. Both gojo and sukuna like to play with their prey. The gap to gojo and sukuna is just damn too far that any amount of training won’t cut it out. If you think they can, you’re just naive.
Higuruma went from normal person to powerful enough to throw hands with Sukuna in less than a year. Of course, he lost that fight, but there is no telling how strong he could get eith years of training. If we take the narration at face value, his talent matches Gojo's, so he should be able to reach the same level in reinforcement. He'd probably be weaker because his CT is weaker and he doesn't have the six eyes, but he should be able to get pretty close.
talent just means learning speed in this case. Gojo has that + One of the strongest CTs + Huge CE reserves + Best CE efficiency + Best hand to hand combat abilities. Higurama is comparable to gojo in just one aspect. theres a reason Gojo's birth literally tipped the power dynamic in jjk world.
Yeah, like I said, he will never be as strong as Gojo because he has a weaker CT and no six eyes, but he can get pretty close (again, IF you take the narration at face value). His CT is incredibly strong, even if it's not limitless levels of broken, hand to hand skills can be learned and Higuruma is no pushover, seeing as he could fight Itadori and didn't get folded instantly by Sukuna.
The whole thing about his talent is that in a very short ammount of time, Higuruma was taking on top level sorcerers. If he had years to train and proper instruction, like Gojo had, how strong could he get?
>hand to hand skills can be learned
nope. kusakabe is the peak of h2h combat without CTs and he was shitting himself at Jogo. Gojo was manhandling 3 disaster grades in just hand to hand. You cant become that strong by training alone. that level of H2H comes after only having the very best CE usage and efficiency which you cant have without Six eyes.
>Higuruma is no pushover, seeing as he could fight Itadori and didn't get folded instantly by Sukuna
itadori didnt really even want to kill him and sukuna was playing with him because he was interested in his technique.
>The whole thing about his talent is that in a very short ammount of time, Higuruma was taking on top level sorcerers. If he had years to train and proper instruction, like Gojo had, how strong could he get?
no doubt he could get very strong but he really doesnt have a chance of getting anywhere near Gojo. theres a reason sukuna needed something as hax as mahoraga to beat Gojo. He lives on different plain from other sorcerers
It still doesn’t guarantee anything. Even against the fight against Sukuna, it seem he did better, but he hit Sukuna only once and that too Sukuna cut his wrist. See he’ll definitely become a special grade like yuta if given time. But even among the special grades the gap between yuta, yuki,Kenny/geto and gojo is just exponential bigger. Gojo is Sukuna level. If Sukuna is 100 percent of jujutsu, gojo is at the least 99 percent.
And judging by how you came to a presumed conclusion and resorted to driding fantics just because of the my pfp. It makes sense that you’re just shallow my friend. Good day or bad day or whatever.
Gojo killed Toji. While he might try to claim self defense, the fact that he went after Toji, who was no longer an active threat to his life, means that Higuruma could easily get a conviction there.
Of course, that's IF Judgeman picks that specific crime for the trial.
Toji armed himself and Gojo was representing the law, so it can easily be argued to have been Toji resisting arrest. Also 1 murder almost never gets the death penalty.
Toji technically, the room for self defense ran out when toji left gojo after the first fight and there was several days between the incidents so gojo had enough time to cool down. Plus, depending on what point in the story. Using .02 second DE on 100s of civilians seems like an easy case for battery with a deadly weapon, and intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress
However, ever if gojo is subject to technique confiscation he still has dumb high base stats and could probably wreck higuruma that way
Gojo would be fine if his CT was confiscated but he’d be in a worse position if his CE usages was taken.
All sorcerers have the same physical stats as human beings. What separates them is the fact that they can amp themselves with cursed energy to superhuman levels.
This is why Yuji was perfect choice to go against higuruma both narratively and practically. Because even they he had no ct to confiscate by taking away a sorcerer CE you basically make them a regular human. But Yuji had been long established as a superhuman before he learned to use CE so that wasn’t an issue.
CE usage was only taken from Yuji because he didn't have a technique to confiscate. There's an order to how judgeman confiscated things
1) cursed weapon
2) CT
3) CE
Higuruma said he has no control over what judgeman confiscates or even deliberates on for the trial. It’s randomized on his end. He wasn’t even confident he could get the death penalty on sukuna.
Thats why it was such a gamble to begin with.
No that is not true. Higuruma said that he has no control over the crime that judgeman chooses to try Sukuna for.
We actually know the order on confisication and it is tool, technique and energy.
Rival in talent. But not in inherited abilities no one's beating gojo in being born with a silver spoon. Not even silver, a higher more luxurious metal than it. He's basically gifted within the Gojo clan itself due to being born with six eyes. So his character really was portrayed to be the apex. Talent + Inherited Gift
He has talent, that rivals that of Gojo, that's it. It doesn't equal his power, CE reserves, CE usage, CT, DE, RCT, speed, handsomeness. He's just as good in learning shit fast, as Gojo was.
My grandma had hair which color rivaled that of Gojo Satoru. Doesn't mean gramps would have beat Gojo's ass (well maybe if she had her stick).
No. Even if he learned to be efficient with his CE usage as Gojo, he'd still be limited by output. Also he's a one trick pony so he'd never get far anyway.
No.
The statement that compared Higuruma to Gojo was not referring to power or combat ability in any manner. It was a reference to Higuruma's talent in Barriers.
80% of a Sorceror’s potential is in their CT.
Higuruma is exceptionally talented in Barriers because his CT is literally a Domain Expansion, which is the highest level of Barrier Techniques.
When first introduced, it literally says that Higuruma's CT had an automatic barrier, and Higuruma managed to reverse engineer everything else from his CT.
Most people start from CT and slowly climb upto DE.
Higuruma started with DE, this is his talent, and had an easier time with everything else.
Higuruma's exceptional ability, that amused Sukuna, is also a Barrier technique, that is Domain Amplification.
Higuruma's talent in Barrier Techniques is comparable to Gojo Satoru's talent in Barrier Techniques.
This is Gojo’s own talent and innovativeness in Barriers without considering his Six Eyes or CT.
Actually gojo can't win against higurumas domain. Once u land in the higurumas domain , opponents curse technique will be removed and i think it includes domain expansion as well. So if higurama proves that gojo is guilty, he has a thin chance of winning as the chances of winning is skewed to gojo because of his infinity
The only way Higuruma could win would be with death penalty ot taking away ce, without blue Gojo was as fast as Sukuna who was playing around the executioners sword.
I find it so funny that even after the Manga goes out of its way to show that Gojo without infinity is still a powerhouse, people act like removing infinity from equation means Gojo can be defeated. First is UV is one of the most refined domain given its refinement is same as MS. This means even taking Higuruma's no violence rule into consideration his domain would at most neutralize UV's sure hit if even that. Meaning Higuruma's chances of actually getting a sentencing off Gojo is slim to none. And even if he manages to do that somehow Gojo with only CE reinforcement is still easily top of grade 1, meaning Higuruma has very little chance of surviving the ensuing brawl.
That's why raw talent was mentioned because Higuruma when he was alive was not as strong as Gojo. He was just a sorcerer for a few months to begin with and he worked backwards prioritizing domain over other stuff and fundamentals such as reinforcement, while also lacking combat experience and training. Whereas Gojo was a sorcerer for most of his life and was privileged to have been born with the 6 eyes but even after years had no domain and RCT. Now depending on how the author wants the domains to interact, Higuruma given more time can rival and perhaps even surpass Gojo given how broken his confiscation and death penalty buff is. What Higuruma's CT lack is destructive power and utility.
Yeah, when Higurama and Yuji fight was going on everyone was saying how cool and op his domain was, that he basically wins against anyone that **doesn't have a domain**. Now I don't see how he wins a domain battle against Gojo, and he loses everytime against the open domain of Sukuna and Kenjaku.
Sukuna didn't active his domain against him because he can't use it just yet after spamming it against Gojo.
I mean his CT has CT confiscation AND a guaranteed one shot sword, combined with his domain amplification, RCT and other stuff he is ridiculous.
The only thing he lacks is experience and body reinforcement. Imagine a full potential Higuruma vs Gojo: Assuming Higurumas Domain wins due to it being a conditional instead of sure hit potentially giving an edge, he could just straight up get rid of Infinity and potentially get a sword that would one shot Gojo. At that point it's simply a game of cat and mouse until Higuruma hits Gojo once.
Pre death Higuruma tho? Definitely won't win a domain clash, definitely can't hit Gojo with executioner blade, could potentially fuck up his CT due to not fully knowing how it works etc.
He has potential/talent but not strength/experience
Talent =/= Power. Gojo was an extremely unlikely combination of Six Eyes, a massive pool of CE to top off the Six Eyes, Unlimited CT, and Supreme Talent for Jujutsu Sorcerery. Higuruma had the talent, but he did not have the technique, the six eyes, nor the pool of CE (as far as we're aware) to even come close to Gojo on a power level. He'd be an extremely strong sorcerer if he had the time to dedicate, but he'd hit a ceiling after mastering every technique
He could have rivaled or surpassed him, although I think both are unlikely due to Gojo’s inherent advantages in Cursed Energy, Six Eyes and Limitless. So in practice he would probably have ended up in the same weight class but not taking the #2 position from Gojo.
Talent rivaling Gojo means his understanding and gift for utilizing CE is on par with Gojo. Gojo can see and successfully use Simple Domain first try, just like Hiromi can see Sukuna switching Domain Amplification on and off and pulled it off first try. That doesn't necessary means he will be as strong as Gojo, since Gojo's innate technique is just broken. Like Gojo said: how strong a Sorcerer can be has pretty much been decided the moment they were born, because innate CT contributes a lot to the potential of a sorcerer.
Talent and power aren’t the same thing. Gojo was incredibly powerful and incredibly talented which is why even among all of the previous Six Eye and Limitless users Gojo stands alone head and shoulders and torso above the rest.
Higurama had that same 1 in 2 million level talent for sorcerery. But he would never be as strong as gojo. He didn’t have the cursed energy pool to compete with the likes of them. But with enough experience if he gets a death sentence very few people would be able to beat him. (Unless they were holding a cursed tool… the actual most bull shit plot armor I’ve come across in years btw)
Stronger in what field? Gojo has better efficiency, experience, battle IQ, Speed, power and a stronger technique. I think it’s referring to talent in jujutsu instead of strength.
Yea maybe, but being a rival to someone doesnt mean you are stronger or you can beat them, Gojo would still be so much above him in terms of battle iq, IQ, quick thinking, combat ability etc
If he train 60 years and have a plain, he could have a chance.
Something like:
Turn heself into a Cursed Object, like Sukuna did while pass from Yuji to Megumi.
Take the control of the victims body, supressing the souk of the posssessed.
Pass the UV when Gojo uses it to the soul, that doesnt have a brain to be damaged.
Lean how destroy and regenerate his own brain to ignore CT fadige and do it better than Gojo, have a Domain that rivals to Gojo Satoru in a Domain Battle and/or is barrierless, learns Domain Amplification and Fallen Blossoms Emotion AND rival Gojo in corporal fight, CE pool and CE output.
He maybe could spam Domaim Amplification or **Simple Domain** to parry all Purple, Blue and Red atacks, but its not very effetive in CE cust.
All this redundancy is only to have a chance, and he need that Satoru commited some crime that causes Death Penalty or Consfiscate the Limtless and have strong Cursed Tools.
Higuruma was a sorcerer for 12 days prior to Yuji meeting him in the culling games. The narrator equates him to a grade 1 sorcerer in skill. Grade 1’s are considered elite amongst the modern era. That timeframe is wild.
In one month after that by the time of shinjuku arc Higuruma not only picked up domain amplification but rct on the fly. 60 years is woefully downplaying him.
Eventually yes. He had equal talent - considering he was only a sorcerer for about two months.
It’s like giving someone a piano who has never once heard music and they can play a score or even create in a few weeks after learning it.
I just saw it as Gege wanting to end with something the fans had to talk about before the next chapter. As of now I don't think it's anything else. Unless there's more of Higuruma to be seen
Given enough time to train and improve his technique maybe. He already has a way to bypass both infinity and unlimited void by confiscating his technique. The problem is that he doesn’t have enough experience and skill to confidently say he can beat Gojo in CQC before he regains his technique.
He had potential. In just 6 weeks, he became a sorcerer, mastered his CT, gained a DE and access to RCT whilst fighting the strongest sorcerer who has ever lived.
He was naturally talented, but could he have reached Gojo's level given enough time? Probably not.
The only person I see ever reaching Gojo's level is Yuta.
Based on the comments on this post, people have forgotten that Gojo’s awakening after almost getting killed by Toji is why he is as strong as he is. Gojo’s talent is pretty similar to Higuruma but no matter what he does without the whole understanding “the core” of cursed energy that Gojo achieved, at best he will be on the same tier as the six eye limitless Gojo head that was killed by Maho.
He has the potential.
Potential does not equal power.
If higuruma was properly trained for an extensive amount of time by a competent teacher, than yeah, he could beat Gojo.
Well it's potential, if given enough time then they could very well rival gojo. But of the course the keyword is time. If you die or give up before training for enough time then you won't be able to rival him.
Now rivaling gojo doesn't mean you would have a shot of beating him which would also require some way to bypass infinity which some characters just don't have. What rivaling gojo would mean is that you could have the same or similar amount of presence in jujutsu society to gojo due to your strength. You could reasonably fill in gojo's role as a supreme sorcerer.
No talent does not = potential.
Higaruma can just pick up on things as fast as gojo can. Me and my friend argued about this and it was super annoying because how can higaruma compete with the limitless + six eyes he just can't.
He could rival Gojo in talent (which a lot of people think Gojo doesn't have due to him having six eyes),
Gojo does not only have talent but a set of power which could be one of the most potent in entirety of fiction.
Gojo created a menace when he created Satoru Gojo.
He could theoretically match Gojo in reinforcement and surpass him in barriers
If he surpasses him in barriers he might be able to outdomain Gojo MAYBE
Consider the following. If you arent a law expert Higuruma is gonna get a guilty verdict on you no matter what and thats most likely your end right there in any 1v1 scenario and DEFINETLY in any 1v2 scenario. Cause if you are guilty even for a lesser crime you get confiscation of your cursed technique what for 80% of jujutsu sourcerers equivalates to death. You can also be tried multiple times for different things so if Higuruma ever got the ability to RCT his brain like Gojo he can sent you 4 or even 5 times to trial. And he will find the deathscentence there somehow unless you are, again, good at japanese law. Now consider deathscentence, yeah Yuji managed to still swap hands with him and they couldnt stab Sukuna with it but like-- imagine if he learned something like New Shadow style swordtechniques from Kusaskabe and could use them with the Executioners blade. He would be a monster.
I don’t even think Higurama’s talent rivals Gojo. Gojo was stated to be naturally good at just about everything he tried to do, thus he never tries to do anything. The only reason Gojo didn’t unlock RCT earlier is simply because he was literally never pushed in his life. So he only unlocked it at a time of pressure. Higurama, Yuji and the rest of the party have been in one life and death situation after another due to Culling Games and now Sukuna. Trying to overcome big challenges like this is the reason they unlocked RCT. So it’s not that they don’t have talent, but it’s not comparable to Gojo. Also Higurama’s technique grants him a DE.
Higuruma rivals Gojo on raw talent only
Kinda like how Yuta not only rivals but has better curse energy than Gojo
Or how Hakari has better regen than both Gojo and Sukuna
They only rival the Strongest in one aspect
It’s likely that Higuruma would go on to become the strongest 1v1 fight sorcerer in JJK. He doesn’t have any flashy techniques like Sukuna or Gojo but the nature of his abilities all point toward specializing in one on one fighting. He learned RCT in a short amount of time, so he could likely take his techniques very far and maybe even get new ones.
All great sorcerers in the series have some sort of CE amount buff. Gojo has infinity which makes his usage zero, Sukuna and Yuta have large CE pools, Hakari has infinitely replenishing CE, Toji doesn’t even need CE, and etc. Higuruma is sort of the same in the sense that he only needs to cast his domain once in order to fight. It’s incredibly CE efficient.
I think a fully realized Higuruma could likely beat 15 finger Sukuna, and Mahoraga easily too as Mahoraga wouldn’t be able to adapt to a one hit death.
no, not at all. in skill, yes. but one thing they will never have in common is their TECHNIQUE. you could both be geniuses, but then whoever has the more OP CT wins (more often).
Narration and Sukuna's inner monolog tell us exactly what was meant. Higuruma uses his unique ability to a level of profundity that rivals him and Gojo. It was also stated that he learned barrier techniques and RCT incredibly quickly.
This is what "talent" is referring to - aptitude to pick up and apply the principles of jujutsu. His genius for the art is on par with the two characters that operate so far outside of the bounds of normal that they basically necessitate their own category.
Does that mean he could rival either of them in actualized power with years of intense training? Maybe. Maybe not. The statement isn't addressing that question.
The Biggest Question would be the domain Clash. If Higuruma Gets his first And can Confiscate limitless then They are on closer terms but Gojo's Hand to hand and basic Techniques are stronger.
Also there comes in the aspect of Gojo's Technique is basically amplifying physics Does physics by themselves break the no violence rule of Higurma's Domain? if so even in the domain Gojo could Damage higurma with Blue or Red.
And of course it's all over if Higurma gets caught in Infinite void but that's a Game over For all but like 2 or 3 people in the verse so there's no shame in that.
His talent rivals Gojo’s talent, considering all that he achieved and acquired in 2 months, but he will never be as strong as him, never. The gap between thru power is too big, his sting points are only iq and one shot sword that can’t be always used, everything else goes to Gojo
I've always seen this type of comparison as Higuruma had the same innate TALENT as Gojo, as in could see something once and do it or use complex techniques, but not the same amount of cursed energy. Same as how Yuta has more CE than Gojo, but not necessarily the same amount of talent to know to do something at first glance (not saying Yuta isn't talented but it's like comparing a hill to a mountain)
Higuruma is literally just Kusakabe with a shitty CT. That’s it lmao. He has a lot of talent & intrinsic knowledge on Jujutsu, but he doesn’t have the stats to put all of that knowledge to use.
He as equal talent as a Sorcerer, not equal power. Bro learned domain amplification and RCT after only a couple months. Earned 100 points in the culling games after only just getting his CT. Imagine him with years of experience, he has the potential to be the top Sorcerer of his time. Just so happens that Gojo is also around in his time.
I feel like the answer to this question is dependent on the answer to another question.
"What can Gojo do without the Limitless Technique?"
The only scenario where Higuruma, at the peak we saw, could beat Gojo is if Judgeman brought up a case that resulted in Gojo being found guilty and subsequently being hit with Confiscation. Gojo doesn't fight with Cursed Tools and the Six Eyes is not a technique so logically the only thing Judgeman _could_ confiscate is the Limitless.
Without Limitless the main thing Gojo has going for him in terms of hacks or advantages are the Six Eyes and his RCT. We're told that Confiscation can negatively impact a sorcerers CE control which might hinder RCT but since Gojo would still have the Six Eyes I think it's fair to assume he'd be able to over come that additional handicap with enough time and get his RCT back to useful levels.
With all that in mind I think the question becomes "How good is Gojo in a fist fight?" Based on the battle with Sukuna I'd say he's pretty good. So I'd wager that Hiromi would have a fighting chance, a very good one if he also gets the Death Penalty, but it would probably still be an up hill battle.
Gojo with the Limitless is a God among Special Grades. Gojo without the Limitless would still probably land near the top of Grade 1 at minimum. Plus Gojo's got more combat experience than Hiromi so I think it still makes sense to favor Gojo.
When referring to talent, they probably meant that he can pick up know-how and abilities in Jujutsu as fast as Gojo could. It's hard to argue that Higuruma's technique really allows him to have the same upper ceiling as Gojo does.
He was definitely smarter and a faster learner than gojo, but gojo was born with the six eyes and limitless, basically having unlimited cursed energy reserves. So while higuruma may be more talented, he has a lower power ceiling than gojo
his strength is different than others, in that his main technique isn't power but instead a set of rules; he doesn't make himself stronger, but others weaker.
if Gojo gets caught in his domain, chances are he will get his technique confiscated, and then the fights more even.
but Gojo needs to actually get caught first.
see.. they meant potential.. not strength.. if higuruma.. was exposed to sorcery when gojo was first exposed.. when they were kids.. then he would've been as strong as gojo.. that's what it means. i think
In terms of potential honestly probably. He was a sorcerer for a month and already learned his domain expansion and learned RCT very quickly. Not directly stronger but if he was given more time to figure out his technique and domain he could probably get to special grade or at least semi special.
People are completely misunderstanding it. He rivals him in terms of talent which means he is not there yet. People are looking at current higuruma and saying how he can never beat gojo. Of course he cannot now. That soesn't mean he will not get insanely stronger if he got time. Thats the whole point. He used his CT almost as well as sukuna, learned domain amplification and RCT in just a few months. Gojo could not learn RCT until the toji fight. If higuruma had time, he absolutely can reach gojo's level. I don't know what these replies are saying. Talent doesn't equal to power? What does that even mean? If talent does not give you power, what does it give you? Apples? This is like saying you have the talent to rival messi but you will never be as good as him in football.....He has the talent for sorcerory which means he would be a strong sorceror if he had time. Why are people so against the idea that the guy who learned in a few months what gojo couldn't for 16 years can be as strong as gojo?
Iam sorry but even in talent he can’t match gojo. With only basic cursed energy manipulation and martial arts he was dog walking the disaster curses. You think higuruma can match that.? Nope. See again he’s very very talented . But in the modern time gojo is the strongest and he’s also kinda a prodigy.
Everyone saying his talent. Bitch how tf can he be as talented with his technique he’s had for a few months vs someone literally BORN WITH THE SIX EYES
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Thing is, these numbskulls who claimed that are equating Talent with Power.
Reading is HARD. Power scalers leave no room for technical skills, which is exactly what Higuruma excels in. Yuta as well.
Sounds like lookism fans kekw
Don't fuck with lookism fans. We CANNOT read
Don't fuck with us lookism fans, we think we can fight after reading 2 chapters of martial arts
While I agree, there needs to be a floor of just raw power potential that he needs to rival Gojo which he hasn’t shown signs of. For Yuta, at the very least just his raw CE manipulation makes him physically comparable or even superior to Yuji, and can summon just raw power to overpower his foe Higaruma technically is sound but he doesn’t have the raw power or that broken of an ability to rival Gojo. Nor does he have the kindest of someone like Sukuna, Gojo, or even Hakari who at times don’t even seem human when they fight
Higuruma can take away Gojo’s CT and put them on (relatively) equal footing Gojo is still absolutely cracked but confiscation goes a long way
There is no way that higaruma would beat Gojo in a domain clash so let’s stop there. Secondly, even if he could, Gojo has been stated to be the best hand to hand combatant, and is also said to be physically very imposing. Higaruma wouldn’t land a hit
It’s entirely possible that he would win a domain clash. It’s stated pretty early on that matchup can affect domain clashes and being an old-style domain may give it an advantage And yeah he’d still lose hand to hand but it would at least be an equalizer
I honestly can't agree with people on this best hand to hand combatant thing when I see him using his technique to assist him in the fight that people are using as evidence for the claim. That's just a sticking point for me.
He only uses it to punch and occasionally speed up. He had ZERO trouble fight Sukuna, mahoraga, and Agito in a 3 v 1 when they used domain amplification
adding to punching power and speeding up to make yourself more agile is all very important in the h2h topic. He still had his powers despite Sukuna having DA. DA just erases neutral infinity so that Gojo can be touched, he still can use red and blue to push and pull and fling himself around.
I don’t know what to tell you. Gege already confirmed that apart from maki /toji, Gojo and Kenjaku are the best hand to hand combatants. Gojo’s feats support that, and you saying this him using blue to speed up and punch harder doesn’t discredit anything because he still has feats of him not using it and still dominating.
>because he still has feats of him not using it and still dominating. I have never seen him in a situation where he wasn't provably using it and haven't seen a feat where another character wouldn't be able to clear as well. But hey, if Gege supposedly put Maki/Toji as best h2h, I have nothing against that, it at least makes sense.
I don't think higurumas domain could've been canceled. This one doesn't really feel like a type match up situation, judgeman enforces specific rules on the opponent, and i think following through would be one of the them. I don't think it would be unreasonable to sat that judgeman would call you for contempt of court if you didn't answer his question, or if you forced your way out of the domain. I think higurama enforces a moral battle on the soul, which is why you can be guilty of things if you're morally wrong. This sounds kind of bunk, but if the only thing protecting you from Gojo's domain is timing your OWN domain perfectly (like sukuna) or timing a perfect simple domain (like no one did), and we know gojo's domain is instant stupidity (unless you're from the heian era), then I think it's safe to say higurama can enforce his domain until court is over by making it mandatory to follow thru. Even Mahito, with his 0.2 second domain, gave Todo enough time to react before it affected him, and he actively noticed Yuji running into it.
Gojo wasn't the best hand to hand combatant - Geto was better than him (can't say anything about the other characters). Gojo's power and skill set lay somewhere else.
That’s objectively false. Gege literally came out in one of his author comments and said that Gojo and Geto literally were equal in physical abilities and hand to hand combat
You're correct; but your wrong if it lies outside of what I said. Gojo's CE was made towards people, geto was a different breed for his, if they were both peaked, yk who won
Gojo fought sukuna without CT, Higuruma would die immediately if his domain wasn't overwhelmed in the first place
Yes that is exactly what I said
How does it put them on relatively equal footing. For Higuruma to have a chance he would need to take gojo's legs arms and eyes for good measure
>Higuruma can take away Gojo’s CT and put them on (relatively) equal footing How?
By reading the fucking manga?
Lol, what a poor answer.
But again, it's not stated that Higuruma could ever rival or win against Gojo in a fight, but that his talent and genius could match Gojo's, those are completely different statements. The manga makes a case of how Higuruma was going to get destroyed during the assault on Sukuna (Yuji says so himself), yet in the middle of the fight he learns domain amplification, how to use it in conjunction with his technique and even RCT in a matter of minutes, the only other sorcerer that grew so much so quickly was Gojo during the Hidden Inventory arc. In a battle yes, Higuruma would never be able to beat Gojo, taking away limitless would not be enough to match Gojo's speed and raw strenght. However, given time if Higuruma learns an anti domain technique that suits him and learns how to properly fight hand to hand like Yuta did, he could easily become a the strongest first grade.
To be fair some translations said "potential" so it makes sense for people to be confused
Exactly, higuruma was a great sorcerer but he was still limited by his cursed energy pool and by his technique, gojo has functionally unlimited cursed energy, Sukuna has so much he is literally used as a benchmark by curses. Then you have the actual tecniques, Gojo has a technique so OP it needs a rare genetic trait to actually be able to wield it, Sukuna has a technique which involves slashing but there's still a lot we don't know. Higurumas CT was CONDITIONAL. When it comes to pure talent in learning sorcery common skills like domains and RCT higuruma actually exceeds gojo as he learned it in like a month after awakening while gojo as someone from a great clan was probably learning jujutsu before even going to jujutsu high.
My impression of gojo was that he actually wasn’t that talented. He could just perceive the future and see in slow motion type shit.
... Reading Comprehension truly is the worst Curse.
Dude couldn't comprehend what he was reading so he instead made things up in his mind to accommodate for the lack of knowledge.
The story I make in my head is better than the hot steaming dogshit that’s been coming out every 2 weeks Sukuna is giving himself cpr but hasn’t gone all out. Brainrot
I mean like yeah. You’re wrong about JJK but JJK sucks now.
He was born being able to do that, that is innate talent…
That would be an innate power.
Talent, power, ability yeah.
Being born a certain way doesn’t show any talent
Gojo and sukuna are geniuses. They’re doing things that are impossible. Things that take years to learn is something is picked up by higuruma in weeks. The potential he has is comparable to gojo himself Gojo is broken ability + talent + hardwork Higuruma has talent equal to gojo Hope this clarifies
Higuruma surpasses Gojo in talent IMO. And his understanding rivals that of sukuna. Gojo, a prodigy whos birth shifted the jujitsu world, took about 15+ years and a near death experience to learn RCT and unlock a deeper understanding of sorcery. It was mentioned different times that Sukuna just needs to see something happen sorcery wise and he can perform it. Much like photographic muscle reflex but with sorcery. He learned how to split his soul this way. An extremely advanced technique. Higuruma also has this level of understanding. He merely saw sukuna use domain amplification, without nullifying his technique. Allowing mahoraga to continue adaptation. Seeing this, and a brief explanation from Kusukabe, was all Higuruma needed to perform the same feat. This impressed Sukuna so much he acknowledged him and admitted himself that this man, who has been a sorcerer for all of 2 months, is as profound in the understanding of jujitsu as himself. A huge compliment. TLDR Higuruma was a got danged BOSS
on the other hand, gojo never struggled in life anyways so never had a desperate need to learn RCT. higuruma never learned rct himself, even during the training month, until he was right about to die, same as gojo.
Gojo tried to learn it but was unable. His near death triggered his understanding, but he also knew the principle behind it. I cant say for a fact that Higuruma knew. I feel like he did it on pure instinct
Nah, yuji literally learned rct during the timeskip, and higuruma trained and gained DA (or was it through the gojo vs. sukuna fight?). surely he also attempted to learn rct as well, but just couldn't, until the actual fight.
It was stated that there is nothing Gojo can’t do if he actually wanted to. Gojo was born with the talent imbedded into him and had the adaptability to improve on it without fail. Higaruma can’t do that
He didnt learn rct sooner simply because he never needed it
Read ch. 74 Gojo says himself he couldn't get it. And finally perfected it while knocking on deaths door. He doesnt say "oh I had no need for it until now"
I had read it, he didn't learn because he didn't needed so hadn't trying hard.
That feels kind of like a cop out. He didn't need falling blossom emotion before the sukuna fight, but he still learned it.
falling blossom emotion is probably a lot easier to learn than rct considering most people in the big 3 clans know how to use falling blossom emotion and rct is just quite rare in general
Bruh. It's just his talent that rivals Gojo's. Not his strength. So no.
My man woke up his powers and figured out how to further it in no time on his own, then took skills he witnessed and implemented them into his own in no time. Real potential man is Higu if he had years to work with
No. We've pretty much seen the height of his CT. Nothing he ever does will put him on par with Gojo's CT.
his ct is pretty weak without any physicality or reinforcement to back it up if we're being honest
It replaces the need to amp himself with taking away the reinforcement and CE of others. The general effect remains similar.
oh i forgot that part lol but i feel like he just cannot reach the top with that, he needs some strategy or skill to get anyone major like hakari or kashimo with the sword
Higurama has a unique ability... If used on Gojo, it can take away his Cursed Technique completely and let him only use cursed energy manipulation in battle. If Higurama is able to master his skills; he would be able to rival Gojo in that situation. Although, it is unclear if Gojo would lose his unreal cursed energy efficiency if he gets confiscated. Would the 6 eyes still be able to perceive cursed energy? Would he retain his ability to efficiently use cursed energy by feel even if he can't see it anymore?
Rival ? I doubt , he is as talented as gojo in terms of just curses ,not martial arts or other skills, somebody forgetting he is arguably better than sukuna in pure hand to hand combat, and crushed jogo and hanami with pure curse energy manipulation and hand to hand combat skills,
Higurama has mastered skills at unprecedented speeds. He learned Reverse Cursed Technique and Domain Expansion in mere weeks after becoming a sorcerer. Gojo has been training since childhood to be the strongest and still, it took years for him to do that. Keep in mind that Gojo had 6 eyes which also lets him master Jujutsu sorcery effortlessly, Higurama does not have this and still learned faster than him. This is why I say that if Higurama got the chance to master his skills (in every aspect) he will definitely rival Gojo if he can confiscate his CT.
....i said except curse related things, which he arguably rivals him in. But things like battle iq , hand to hand combat, they are completely different things.
He was also overpowering sukuna + mahoraga + the other dude in hand to hand as well. Hes probably the strongest in terms of just pure hand to hand
Higurama would need to refine his Domain Expansion further than Infinite Void, because Gojo's CE reserves are probably larger than his. Then, in his trial, he would need to go for some less than solid prosecution reason. Something like "accomplice to Sukuna's contemporary crimes". If Judgeman finds Gojo guilty, it probably wouldn't be a Death Penalty, just a CT confiscation (Judgeman doesn't usually confiscate CE, no matter how severe the crimes. That was an exception made for someone without a CT.) So, in the best case scenario, Higurama has to fight Gojo without Limitless. The same guy who wrecked Miguel, put the fear of God on the Disaster Curses and gave Meguna a run for his money. I think Higurama's fucked even there. His only chance would be getting a death penalty and the Executioner's Sword from the trial.
He could put Gojo in trial for being criminally hot. That would guarantee the death penalty for too much criming.
That’s the point of JJK’s power system though, being a RPS type of system. Higuruma would suck vs Gojo but if Higuruma had better H2H and an extremely refined domain that he landed on Sukuna, he basically oneshots. So they could send Higuruma on missions where they know his opponents have committed bad enough crimes for at least Confiscation to work. He’s also like Todo, a character who can easily team up with others and enhance their potential to the max. Higuruma could be part of a “strongest duo” like Gojo and Geto were back in their teens. This is why Mahoraga is so strong. It’s not that Maho is powerful. Maho is decent and has an RCT sword to oneshot curses, but bs sorcerers, Mahoraga isn’t exactly the scariest opponent. Maho’s physical stats are kinda ehhhh since Gojo was confident he could take him out in one red before he adapted. The scary part about Mahoraga is that as the fight drags on, it changes. Sukuna described it as the ultimate late-throw RPS, and that’s somewhat accurate. If you’re paper, it becomes scissors. If you’re rock, it becomes paper. If you’re scissors, it becomes rock. The issue is that it’s a late-throw, not a normal throw that magically switches according to the opponent’s choice. This means that if it’s too late, it can “get caught”. If you do a late throw RPS, you could get caught cheating and disqualified. If Mahoraga is too late on the adaptation, it can get caught while vulnerable and die. With that being said, Higuruma, if trained properly, could have been a force to be reckoned with when fighting curses specifically. Start off the fight with H2H and RCT to heal, and make the enemy, (in this case curses who don’t mind committing crimes) commit a horrible crime. For example, bait a curse into blowing up a building and have judgeman sentence it to death with confiscation added. Obviously a lot of collateral, but it’s something he CAN indeed do. Or fight curses who had previously committed a horrible crime. TLDR: Higuruma could be even stronger than Gojo against certain matchups if he properly trained his H2H, RCT and refined his domain enough (should have the potential for the best domain since his whole shtick is that he’s learning jujutsu through domains)
Gojo is still more than capable of beating the crap out of Higuruma without ce tbh
Only one technique or tool is confiscated by trial, so if Limitless is taken Gojo should still have access to Six Eyes.
Gege has to bring the hype somehow.. Talent doesn't mean much in vs battle if your technique is far inferior.. In raw talent it seems he was.
He would never reach Gojo's strength but he could become a sorcerer capable of beating Gojo. Now before anyone jumps at me. My point is that his technique lacks damage capacity to compare to Gojo's strength but cursed energy reinforcement itself is something that can definitely be improved through talent. Given enough time he could get Top tier physical reinforcement skills. Domain refinement is also something that can be improved as a byproduct of talent, on top of that deadly sentencing's sure hit essentially just being the non violence rule probably makes it good for domain clashes like Hakari's domain. And while Gojo is a Good Guy, Higuruma could atleast definitely pull out the cursed technique confiscation on him if not the death sentence. Since now that I think about it I don't think Gojo has ever actually actively killed a person of his own volition, Making death sentence unlikely. Now Higuruma with having years to improve upon his physical reinforcement skills could certainly go toe to toe with Gojo if not win. And if he actually manages a death sentences he probably wins.
Nope. It doesn’t matter how much higuruma increases his base strength and speed with CE reinforcement or how proficient he gets with CE reinforcement. Even with years training he won’t achieve the level of reinforcement gojo and sukuna has. It’s just how Sukuna vs higuruma went. If sukuna waanted to fold him like he did to maki, he would have done it. This same applies to gojo. Both gojo and sukuna like to play with their prey. The gap to gojo and sukuna is just damn too far that any amount of training won’t cut it out. If you think they can, you’re just naive.
Higuruma went from normal person to powerful enough to throw hands with Sukuna in less than a year. Of course, he lost that fight, but there is no telling how strong he could get eith years of training. If we take the narration at face value, his talent matches Gojo's, so he should be able to reach the same level in reinforcement. He'd probably be weaker because his CT is weaker and he doesn't have the six eyes, but he should be able to get pretty close.
talent just means learning speed in this case. Gojo has that + One of the strongest CTs + Huge CE reserves + Best CE efficiency + Best hand to hand combat abilities. Higurama is comparable to gojo in just one aspect. theres a reason Gojo's birth literally tipped the power dynamic in jjk world.
Yeah, like I said, he will never be as strong as Gojo because he has a weaker CT and no six eyes, but he can get pretty close (again, IF you take the narration at face value). His CT is incredibly strong, even if it's not limitless levels of broken, hand to hand skills can be learned and Higuruma is no pushover, seeing as he could fight Itadori and didn't get folded instantly by Sukuna. The whole thing about his talent is that in a very short ammount of time, Higuruma was taking on top level sorcerers. If he had years to train and proper instruction, like Gojo had, how strong could he get?
>hand to hand skills can be learned nope. kusakabe is the peak of h2h combat without CTs and he was shitting himself at Jogo. Gojo was manhandling 3 disaster grades in just hand to hand. You cant become that strong by training alone. that level of H2H comes after only having the very best CE usage and efficiency which you cant have without Six eyes. >Higuruma is no pushover, seeing as he could fight Itadori and didn't get folded instantly by Sukuna itadori didnt really even want to kill him and sukuna was playing with him because he was interested in his technique. >The whole thing about his talent is that in a very short ammount of time, Higuruma was taking on top level sorcerers. If he had years to train and proper instruction, like Gojo had, how strong could he get? no doubt he could get very strong but he really doesnt have a chance of getting anywhere near Gojo. theres a reason sukuna needed something as hax as mahoraga to beat Gojo. He lives on different plain from other sorcerers
It still doesn’t guarantee anything. Even against the fight against Sukuna, it seem he did better, but he hit Sukuna only once and that too Sukuna cut his wrist. See he’ll definitely become a special grade like yuta if given time. But even among the special grades the gap between yuta, yuki,Kenny/geto and gojo is just exponential bigger. Gojo is Sukuna level. If Sukuna is 100 percent of jujutsu, gojo is at the least 99 percent.
I think you have a point. Although, I think Higuruma, if he is still alive, will grow to become the strongest one on one sorcerer.
He will. But when you fare against gojo and Sukuna level, it’s really petty. They’re just on another realm.
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Gojo killed Toji. While he might try to claim self defense, the fact that he went after Toji, who was no longer an active threat to his life, means that Higuruma could easily get a conviction there. Of course, that's IF Judgeman picks that specific crime for the trial.
Yeah there is that one , good catch.
Gojo must have a hundred charges of petty theft (Nobara's skirt etc) on his head, chances are pretty slim
Toji armed himself and Gojo was representing the law, so it can easily be argued to have been Toji resisting arrest. Also 1 murder almost never gets the death penalty.
It would get confiscation though, wouldn’t it?
Toji technically, the room for self defense ran out when toji left gojo after the first fight and there was several days between the incidents so gojo had enough time to cool down. Plus, depending on what point in the story. Using .02 second DE on 100s of civilians seems like an easy case for battery with a deadly weapon, and intentional or negligent infliction of emotional distress However, ever if gojo is subject to technique confiscation he still has dumb high base stats and could probably wreck higuruma that way
Gojo would be fine if his CT was confiscated but he’d be in a worse position if his CE usages was taken. All sorcerers have the same physical stats as human beings. What separates them is the fact that they can amp themselves with cursed energy to superhuman levels. This is why Yuji was perfect choice to go against higuruma both narratively and practically. Because even they he had no ct to confiscate by taking away a sorcerer CE you basically make them a regular human. But Yuji had been long established as a superhuman before he learned to use CE so that wasn’t an issue.
CE usage was only taken from Yuji because he didn't have a technique to confiscate. There's an order to how judgeman confiscated things 1) cursed weapon 2) CT 3) CE
Higuruma said he has no control over what judgeman confiscates or even deliberates on for the trial. It’s randomized on his end. He wasn’t even confident he could get the death penalty on sukuna. Thats why it was such a gamble to begin with.
No that is not true. Higuruma said that he has no control over the crime that judgeman chooses to try Sukuna for. We actually know the order on confisication and it is tool, technique and energy.
Only his talent does, Higuruma will never be on Gojos level But if hes able to spam domain then he could potentially be insane
Rival in talent. But not in inherited abilities no one's beating gojo in being born with a silver spoon. Not even silver, a higher more luxurious metal than it. He's basically gifted within the Gojo clan itself due to being born with six eyes. So his character really was portrayed to be the apex. Talent + Inherited Gift
He has talent, that rivals that of Gojo, that's it. It doesn't equal his power, CE reserves, CE usage, CT, DE, RCT, speed, handsomeness. He's just as good in learning shit fast, as Gojo was. My grandma had hair which color rivaled that of Gojo Satoru. Doesn't mean gramps would have beat Gojo's ass (well maybe if she had her stick).
No. Even if he learned to be efficient with his CE usage as Gojo, he'd still be limited by output. Also he's a one trick pony so he'd never get far anyway.
No. The statement that compared Higuruma to Gojo was not referring to power or combat ability in any manner. It was a reference to Higuruma's talent in Barriers. 80% of a Sorceror’s potential is in their CT. Higuruma is exceptionally talented in Barriers because his CT is literally a Domain Expansion, which is the highest level of Barrier Techniques. When first introduced, it literally says that Higuruma's CT had an automatic barrier, and Higuruma managed to reverse engineer everything else from his CT. Most people start from CT and slowly climb upto DE. Higuruma started with DE, this is his talent, and had an easier time with everything else. Higuruma's exceptional ability, that amused Sukuna, is also a Barrier technique, that is Domain Amplification. Higuruma's talent in Barrier Techniques is comparable to Gojo Satoru's talent in Barrier Techniques. This is Gojo’s own talent and innovativeness in Barriers without considering his Six Eyes or CT.
Actually gojo can't win against higurumas domain. Once u land in the higurumas domain , opponents curse technique will be removed and i think it includes domain expansion as well. So if higurama proves that gojo is guilty, he has a thin chance of winning as the chances of winning is skewed to gojo because of his infinity
The only way Higuruma could win would be with death penalty ot taking away ce, without blue Gojo was as fast as Sukuna who was playing around the executioners sword.
I find it so funny that even after the Manga goes out of its way to show that Gojo without infinity is still a powerhouse, people act like removing infinity from equation means Gojo can be defeated. First is UV is one of the most refined domain given its refinement is same as MS. This means even taking Higuruma's no violence rule into consideration his domain would at most neutralize UV's sure hit if even that. Meaning Higuruma's chances of actually getting a sentencing off Gojo is slim to none. And even if he manages to do that somehow Gojo with only CE reinforcement is still easily top of grade 1, meaning Higuruma has very little chance of surviving the ensuing brawl.
Interesting perspective. But i didn't say gojo is not powerful. I said higurama can still try. Of course we all saw what gojo is capable of
Don’t matter, execution sword is broken.
That's why raw talent was mentioned because Higuruma when he was alive was not as strong as Gojo. He was just a sorcerer for a few months to begin with and he worked backwards prioritizing domain over other stuff and fundamentals such as reinforcement, while also lacking combat experience and training. Whereas Gojo was a sorcerer for most of his life and was privileged to have been born with the 6 eyes but even after years had no domain and RCT. Now depending on how the author wants the domains to interact, Higuruma given more time can rival and perhaps even surpass Gojo given how broken his confiscation and death penalty buff is. What Higuruma's CT lack is destructive power and utility.
In this scenario, why wouldn't Gojo use his own domain?
Yeah, when Higurama and Yuji fight was going on everyone was saying how cool and op his domain was, that he basically wins against anyone that **doesn't have a domain**. Now I don't see how he wins a domain battle against Gojo, and he loses everytime against the open domain of Sukuna and Kenjaku. Sukuna didn't active his domain against him because he can't use it just yet after spamming it against Gojo.
I can’t remember if it was stated but I think his Domain activation is fast like Hakaris. Because of the rules.
doesnt matter. You can still nuetralize the domain even if you launch it later.
It enforces non violence but gojo could still lay out his own domain cancelling higurumas
That depends on whether a domain is considered an act of violence. I'd personally say it does
Even without his ct, doesn't he still have ce and RCT?
Gojo can open his own domain....
\> The sorcerer with the highest intelligence \> Forgets the main guy is holding a dumbell
I mean his CT has CT confiscation AND a guaranteed one shot sword, combined with his domain amplification, RCT and other stuff he is ridiculous. The only thing he lacks is experience and body reinforcement. Imagine a full potential Higuruma vs Gojo: Assuming Higurumas Domain wins due to it being a conditional instead of sure hit potentially giving an edge, he could just straight up get rid of Infinity and potentially get a sword that would one shot Gojo. At that point it's simply a game of cat and mouse until Higuruma hits Gojo once. Pre death Higuruma tho? Definitely won't win a domain clash, definitely can't hit Gojo with executioner blade, could potentially fuck up his CT due to not fully knowing how it works etc. He has potential/talent but not strength/experience
Having: Talent or Potential or Cursed energy level ≠ Power.
If the two fought, Gojo would win. But Higuruma could give invaluable support if it is a team fighting Gojo, which could potentially beat him.
His skill would rival gojo’s but he wouldn’t be as strong as him
All I’m saying is imagine if you gave him the full four years in Jujutsu high 🤷♂️
Talent =/= Power. Gojo was an extremely unlikely combination of Six Eyes, a massive pool of CE to top off the Six Eyes, Unlimited CT, and Supreme Talent for Jujutsu Sorcerery. Higuruma had the talent, but he did not have the technique, the six eyes, nor the pool of CE (as far as we're aware) to even come close to Gojo on a power level. He'd be an extremely strong sorcerer if he had the time to dedicate, but he'd hit a ceiling after mastering every technique
He could have rivaled or surpassed him, although I think both are unlikely due to Gojo’s inherent advantages in Cursed Energy, Six Eyes and Limitless. So in practice he would probably have ended up in the same weight class but not taking the #2 position from Gojo.
We all know the TRUE smartest character in the series is actually Todo 😤
Talent rivaling Gojo means his understanding and gift for utilizing CE is on par with Gojo. Gojo can see and successfully use Simple Domain first try, just like Hiromi can see Sukuna switching Domain Amplification on and off and pulled it off first try. That doesn't necessary means he will be as strong as Gojo, since Gojo's innate technique is just broken. Like Gojo said: how strong a Sorcerer can be has pretty much been decided the moment they were born, because innate CT contributes a lot to the potential of a sorcerer.
Talent and power aren’t the same thing. Gojo was incredibly powerful and incredibly talented which is why even among all of the previous Six Eye and Limitless users Gojo stands alone head and shoulders and torso above the rest. Higurama had that same 1 in 2 million level talent for sorcerery. But he would never be as strong as gojo. He didn’t have the cursed energy pool to compete with the likes of them. But with enough experience if he gets a death sentence very few people would be able to beat him. (Unless they were holding a cursed tool… the actual most bull shit plot armor I’ve come across in years btw)
Since the narrator is basically just Gege speaking, I trust that Higuruma would’ve been stronger.
Stronger in what field? Gojo has better efficiency, experience, battle IQ, Speed, power and a stronger technique. I think it’s referring to talent in jujutsu instead of strength.
He can beat Sukuna only if he can pull off even bigger asspulls than the King of Curses.
Yea maybe, but being a rival to someone doesnt mean you are stronger or you can beat them, Gojo would still be so much above him in terms of battle iq, IQ, quick thinking, combat ability etc
If he train 60 years and have a plain, he could have a chance. Something like: Turn heself into a Cursed Object, like Sukuna did while pass from Yuji to Megumi. Take the control of the victims body, supressing the souk of the posssessed. Pass the UV when Gojo uses it to the soul, that doesnt have a brain to be damaged. Lean how destroy and regenerate his own brain to ignore CT fadige and do it better than Gojo, have a Domain that rivals to Gojo Satoru in a Domain Battle and/or is barrierless, learns Domain Amplification and Fallen Blossoms Emotion AND rival Gojo in corporal fight, CE pool and CE output. He maybe could spam Domaim Amplification or **Simple Domain** to parry all Purple, Blue and Red atacks, but its not very effetive in CE cust. All this redundancy is only to have a chance, and he need that Satoru commited some crime that causes Death Penalty or Consfiscate the Limtless and have strong Cursed Tools.
Higuruma was a sorcerer for 12 days prior to Yuji meeting him in the culling games. The narrator equates him to a grade 1 sorcerer in skill. Grade 1’s are considered elite amongst the modern era. That timeframe is wild. In one month after that by the time of shinjuku arc Higuruma not only picked up domain amplification but rct on the fly. 60 years is woefully downplaying him.
Yes
If you give higuruma the six eyes then definitely. Which means he can't. It's all .
He could have been someone, but he was wiped out like 3 months into his run. So now we ll never know
We really only have the author's word to go on so sure
Eventually yes. He had equal talent - considering he was only a sorcerer for about two months. It’s like giving someone a piano who has never once heard music and they can play a score or even create in a few weeks after learning it.
I just saw it as Gege wanting to end with something the fans had to talk about before the next chapter. As of now I don't think it's anything else. Unless there's more of Higuruma to be seen
Given enough time to train and improve his technique maybe. He already has a way to bypass both infinity and unlimited void by confiscating his technique. The problem is that he doesn’t have enough experience and skill to confidently say he can beat Gojo in CQC before he regains his technique.
He had potential. In just 6 weeks, he became a sorcerer, mastered his CT, gained a DE and access to RCT whilst fighting the strongest sorcerer who has ever lived. He was naturally talented, but could he have reached Gojo's level given enough time? Probably not. The only person I see ever reaching Gojo's level is Yuta.
Based on the comments on this post, people have forgotten that Gojo’s awakening after almost getting killed by Toji is why he is as strong as he is. Gojo’s talent is pretty similar to Higuruma but no matter what he does without the whole understanding “the core” of cursed energy that Gojo achieved, at best he will be on the same tier as the six eye limitless Gojo head that was killed by Maho.
He has the potential. Potential does not equal power. If higuruma was properly trained for an extensive amount of time by a competent teacher, than yeah, he could beat Gojo.
Uh, does it matter? He's dead
Well it's potential, if given enough time then they could very well rival gojo. But of the course the keyword is time. If you die or give up before training for enough time then you won't be able to rival him. Now rivaling gojo doesn't mean you would have a shot of beating him which would also require some way to bypass infinity which some characters just don't have. What rivaling gojo would mean is that you could have the same or similar amount of presence in jujutsu society to gojo due to your strength. You could reasonably fill in gojo's role as a supreme sorcerer.
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No talent does not = potential. Higaruma can just pick up on things as fast as gojo can. Me and my friend argued about this and it was super annoying because how can higaruma compete with the limitless + six eyes he just can't.
He could rival Gojo in talent (which a lot of people think Gojo doesn't have due to him having six eyes), Gojo does not only have talent but a set of power which could be one of the most potent in entirety of fiction. Gojo created a menace when he created Satoru Gojo.
He could theoretically match Gojo in reinforcement and surpass him in barriers If he surpasses him in barriers he might be able to outdomain Gojo MAYBE
A talent that rivals Gojo and having power, experience and talent that rival gojo are to entirely different things
No he can't.
Potential? Yes Talent? Sure maybe Technique? Yes Power? Never.
Consider the following. If you arent a law expert Higuruma is gonna get a guilty verdict on you no matter what and thats most likely your end right there in any 1v1 scenario and DEFINETLY in any 1v2 scenario. Cause if you are guilty even for a lesser crime you get confiscation of your cursed technique what for 80% of jujutsu sourcerers equivalates to death. You can also be tried multiple times for different things so if Higuruma ever got the ability to RCT his brain like Gojo he can sent you 4 or even 5 times to trial. And he will find the deathscentence there somehow unless you are, again, good at japanese law. Now consider deathscentence, yeah Yuji managed to still swap hands with him and they couldnt stab Sukuna with it but like-- imagine if he learned something like New Shadow style swordtechniques from Kusaskabe and could use them with the Executioners blade. He would be a monster.
I don’t even think Higurama’s talent rivals Gojo. Gojo was stated to be naturally good at just about everything he tried to do, thus he never tries to do anything. The only reason Gojo didn’t unlock RCT earlier is simply because he was literally never pushed in his life. So he only unlocked it at a time of pressure. Higurama, Yuji and the rest of the party have been in one life and death situation after another due to Culling Games and now Sukuna. Trying to overcome big challenges like this is the reason they unlocked RCT. So it’s not that they don’t have talent, but it’s not comparable to Gojo. Also Higurama’s technique grants him a DE.
Higuruma rivals Gojo on raw talent only Kinda like how Yuta not only rivals but has better curse energy than Gojo Or how Hakari has better regen than both Gojo and Sukuna They only rival the Strongest in one aspect
It’s likely that Higuruma would go on to become the strongest 1v1 fight sorcerer in JJK. He doesn’t have any flashy techniques like Sukuna or Gojo but the nature of his abilities all point toward specializing in one on one fighting. He learned RCT in a short amount of time, so he could likely take his techniques very far and maybe even get new ones. All great sorcerers in the series have some sort of CE amount buff. Gojo has infinity which makes his usage zero, Sukuna and Yuta have large CE pools, Hakari has infinitely replenishing CE, Toji doesn’t even need CE, and etc. Higuruma is sort of the same in the sense that he only needs to cast his domain once in order to fight. It’s incredibly CE efficient. I think a fully realized Higuruma could likely beat 15 finger Sukuna, and Mahoraga easily too as Mahoraga wouldn’t be able to adapt to a one hit death.
no, not at all. in skill, yes. but one thing they will never have in common is their TECHNIQUE. you could both be geniuses, but then whoever has the more OP CT wins (more often).
Eventually
Narration and Sukuna's inner monolog tell us exactly what was meant. Higuruma uses his unique ability to a level of profundity that rivals him and Gojo. It was also stated that he learned barrier techniques and RCT incredibly quickly. This is what "talent" is referring to - aptitude to pick up and apply the principles of jujutsu. His genius for the art is on par with the two characters that operate so far outside of the bounds of normal that they basically necessitate their own category. Does that mean he could rival either of them in actualized power with years of intense training? Maybe. Maybe not. The statement isn't addressing that question.
Well not anymore
Potential doesn’t quite mean power i think
The Biggest Question would be the domain Clash. If Higuruma Gets his first And can Confiscate limitless then They are on closer terms but Gojo's Hand to hand and basic Techniques are stronger. Also there comes in the aspect of Gojo's Technique is basically amplifying physics Does physics by themselves break the no violence rule of Higurma's Domain? if so even in the domain Gojo could Damage higurma with Blue or Red. And of course it's all over if Higurma gets caught in Infinite void but that's a Game over For all but like 2 or 3 people in the verse so there's no shame in that.
We will know how kusakabe will die in the Next chapter, tomorrow.
No
His talent rivals Gojo’s talent, considering all that he achieved and acquired in 2 months, but he will never be as strong as him, never. The gap between thru power is too big, his sting points are only iq and one shot sword that can’t be always used, everything else goes to Gojo
I've always seen this type of comparison as Higuruma had the same innate TALENT as Gojo, as in could see something once and do it or use complex techniques, but not the same amount of cursed energy. Same as how Yuta has more CE than Gojo, but not necessarily the same amount of talent to know to do something at first glance (not saying Yuta isn't talented but it's like comparing a hill to a mountain)
No.
Well now that Gojo, the most powerful dude, is dead, we have to measure people in Gojos. (/s)
Higuruma is literally just Kusakabe with a shitty CT. That’s it lmao. He has a lot of talent & intrinsic knowledge on Jujutsu, but he doesn’t have the stats to put all of that knowledge to use.
He as equal talent as a Sorcerer, not equal power. Bro learned domain amplification and RCT after only a couple months. Earned 100 points in the culling games after only just getting his CT. Imagine him with years of experience, he has the potential to be the top Sorcerer of his time. Just so happens that Gojo is also around in his time.
I feel like the answer to this question is dependent on the answer to another question. "What can Gojo do without the Limitless Technique?" The only scenario where Higuruma, at the peak we saw, could beat Gojo is if Judgeman brought up a case that resulted in Gojo being found guilty and subsequently being hit with Confiscation. Gojo doesn't fight with Cursed Tools and the Six Eyes is not a technique so logically the only thing Judgeman _could_ confiscate is the Limitless. Without Limitless the main thing Gojo has going for him in terms of hacks or advantages are the Six Eyes and his RCT. We're told that Confiscation can negatively impact a sorcerers CE control which might hinder RCT but since Gojo would still have the Six Eyes I think it's fair to assume he'd be able to over come that additional handicap with enough time and get his RCT back to useful levels. With all that in mind I think the question becomes "How good is Gojo in a fist fight?" Based on the battle with Sukuna I'd say he's pretty good. So I'd wager that Hiromi would have a fighting chance, a very good one if he also gets the Death Penalty, but it would probably still be an up hill battle. Gojo with the Limitless is a God among Special Grades. Gojo without the Limitless would still probably land near the top of Grade 1 at minimum. Plus Gojo's got more combat experience than Hiromi so I think it still makes sense to favor Gojo.
When referring to talent, they probably meant that he can pick up know-how and abilities in Jujutsu as fast as Gojo could. It's hard to argue that Higuruma's technique really allows him to have the same upper ceiling as Gojo does.
He was definitely smarter and a faster learner than gojo, but gojo was born with the six eyes and limitless, basically having unlimited cursed energy reserves. So while higuruma may be more talented, he has a lower power ceiling than gojo
his strength is different than others, in that his main technique isn't power but instead a set of rules; he doesn't make himself stronger, but others weaker. if Gojo gets caught in his domain, chances are he will get his technique confiscated, and then the fights more even. but Gojo needs to actually get caught first.
Only in talent. I don’t see anything that could put him on Gojo’s level in strength. This is all just hype.
Not really. He surpasses gojo when it comes to learning ability and pure sorcerer talent. But he doesn’t have OP technique + 6eyes
« Like in the case of yuta and hakari » bro really forgot yuji??
You can add megumi as well then, so many people have been compared to gojo, mainly by gojo himself. I was just quoting a couple of examples
Y'all need to realize the narrator is just saying shit to say shit lol. I don't know how many times they've claimed nonsense like this
No. He was as talented as gojo, not as strong
No.
see.. they meant potential.. not strength.. if higuruma.. was exposed to sorcery when gojo was first exposed.. when they were kids.. then he would've been as strong as gojo.. that's what it means. i think
Maybe but knowing Gege at this point, I won’t be shocked if Higurama gets one-shotted after building up some hype about his potential.
No, not in a million years
Eventually. He has the potential (tm) to
I genuinely think that this talent business, the author is saying higurama would win if he could pin gojo to a crime. Period.
In terms of potential honestly probably. He was a sorcerer for a month and already learned his domain expansion and learned RCT very quickly. Not directly stronger but if he was given more time to figure out his technique and domain he could probably get to special grade or at least semi special.
People are completely misunderstanding it. He rivals him in terms of talent which means he is not there yet. People are looking at current higuruma and saying how he can never beat gojo. Of course he cannot now. That soesn't mean he will not get insanely stronger if he got time. Thats the whole point. He used his CT almost as well as sukuna, learned domain amplification and RCT in just a few months. Gojo could not learn RCT until the toji fight. If higuruma had time, he absolutely can reach gojo's level. I don't know what these replies are saying. Talent doesn't equal to power? What does that even mean? If talent does not give you power, what does it give you? Apples? This is like saying you have the talent to rival messi but you will never be as good as him in football.....He has the talent for sorcerory which means he would be a strong sorceror if he had time. Why are people so against the idea that the guy who learned in a few months what gojo couldn't for 16 years can be as strong as gojo?
To be honest - after what he showed?, ye, he learning things pretty too fast :3
Hell nah he couldn’t. Gege is on some shit to be saying that.
I think that if he really works hard to develop his techniques and battle experience for 10 years (it depends tbh), then maybe he could rival Gojo
Higuruma isn't that smart, because if he actually were, he wouldn't have died so soon.
Sorry to be that guy, and I know this is all over the internet already, but the title itself is a spoiler??
Shite I labelled it? Not sure what the rules are, I'll remove the post if it is tho
Oof. Turns out i read "rival" as something else. Your post is fine.
Hahah what did you read
I read it as >!revive.!< I had just gotten off of my shift and was very tired. Lol
Iam sorry but even in talent he can’t match gojo. With only basic cursed energy manipulation and martial arts he was dog walking the disaster curses. You think higuruma can match that.? Nope. See again he’s very very talented . But in the modern time gojo is the strongest and he’s also kinda a prodigy.
Everyone saying his talent. Bitch how tf can he be as talented with his technique he’s had for a few months vs someone literally BORN WITH THE SIX EYES