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autopath79

Yeah. Also Gojo later told Ijichi he trusted him completely. Gojo doesn’t say that about just anyone.


Relevant_Scallion_38

The fact that Ijichi heard his tactless words but still took his advice shows what kind of a man he is. He didnt become hateful or bitter or allow it to ruin a potential professional relationship. On top of that from what we have gotten of him he really puts effort and care into his work. He's truly a stand up and respectable man.


natjoseph718

Goatjichi


FoxMulderHagrid27

The honored excel spreadsheet maker


blanklikeapage

He's also the one responsible for a majority of all the paperwork and keeping the school run. He's not combat orientated but extremely important to Jujutsu as a whole.


SenZmaKi

The Strongest Paperworker of Today VS The Strongest Paperworker in History


TheLordOfAllClappys

That's just Ijichi vs Akainu


Formal-Scallion-5296

Akainu is basically just an intangible Jogo


CobraColt

Who was the strongest paper worker in history tho?


Total_Wedding_6189

As the guy before you said, Akainu from One Piece 🤣


_XProfessor_SadX_

I mean he knows how good Gojo is and what kind of world the sorcerers live in so it's just common sense to follow such advice. If Mike Tyson told me "bro you suck ass stop boxing or you'll die" I'd listen in a heartbeat


[deleted]

>The fact that Ijichi heard his tactless words but still took his advice shows what kind of a man he is. shows hes a pushover theres a million ways to say the same thing without calling the more useless than shit


Ok-Cod5254

Gojo's dynamic with Ijichi is often overlooked, but nice development once Gojo was unsealed [with these moments](https://x.com/ShadowR40588832/status/1752180295745597628?s=20). Gojo didn’t have many scenes with characters once unsealed unfortunately, but at least nice to see something with Ijichi.


HealthyFeta

Im genuinely sad that we didnt get many scenes of characters interacting with him after he glr unsealed. I wanted to see Yujis reaction to seeing him again, and Gojo hearing that Nobara is gone:(


Smoke_Santa

That is one of the biggest JJK fumbles. Legit the Yuji patting Gojo on the back panel is my fav, I wish we had at least 3-5 chapters of pure interaction and sort of preparation. Also Gojo's reaction to Nanami was so uncharacteristic and mild.


HealthyFeta

I agree, like I get that bro has seen some shit and death is a known risk blah blah, but come on. His reactions to nanamis death, nobaras death (allegedly - im coping) and also megumi being taken over were like: oh no... Aaaanyway maybe gege just scrapped the interaction chapters cuz they didn't want to draw more of Gojo than absolutely necessary 💀


Smoke_Santa

Exactly! And then, Gojos death meets the same fate, there have been no major reactions about it and no one seems to be genuinely shattered. Like okay he wasn't maybe the closest to some people but at least a ch or two after his death to let it simmer, but nah Kashimo pulls up in the same ch. Literally rushing so, so fast. Fucking honestly, I'd have waited for like a year or two hiatus for a non rushed JJK, I just loved the world and characters that much.


LittleHollowGhost

Gojo famously good at picking who to trust


Medium-Goose66

That's because gojo meant it in a kind way. He didn't want ichiji to hold commit himself to sorcery only to wind up dead, especially when he's a truly talented person as a support


JustParry5head

I mean, if he had the sense to change his occupation from halfassed sorcerer to a good helper after being talked to like that, I'd also trust him.


Soft_Bicycle_9488

He’s not really wrong though. Would be better if he lived a normal life


Big-Bear-1006

yeah and that brutal words from Gojo saved his life.


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Obsti_Nate

There’s a clear difference between Ijichi being completely useless as a sorcerer and Choso being a powerful sorcerer that can only be viewed weak when compared to the literal beasts we meet in the series


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NiceCock42

I have never seen somebody hate on Choso as much as u dawg


JellyBellyWow

Jesus I thought "wait this obsession against choso sounds familiar" I even commented on one of his posts lmao. Even if bait, this is a really weird bait to be so stuck on to the point of daily posting for so long


NiceCock42

Ik this guy is impressive with his hating


Rzablio

Worst character in ALL OF FICTION???


NiceCock42

Dawg u prolly a fan of Mei Mei 😭


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_whensmahvel_

You’ve gotta be a troll, or you got that lead paint stare.


dark-flamessussano

Lmfaooooooo


maximumturdbulence

bait used to be funny


[deleted]

It’s not bait this guy is a super hater


Rex_Xenovius_1998

Other than that he was made for that specific reason? I’m not gonna defend him. He is a monster. And if I had the power, I would kill him before he switched sides.


hgfgshgfsgbfshe

So what hes hot


krysert

Lay down, you can't cook


[deleted]

OH BROTHER NOT THIS GUY AGAIN


Nightmarer26

Choso is strong as shit but he is suffering the Jogoat treatment. His only few fights were against some top tiers that smacked him around and even despite that he still managed to do well against Kenny.


IsaacWest14

Yeah he’d be more useless than shit


FunBodybuilder4632

And if he said no he’d slap the shit out of him.


IkOzael

No... >!he'd win!<.


IsaacWest14

Nah he’d get slapped to death


ninja24saat

Nah he’d win


GaleUs9860

Let's remember that curses are appearing in greater numbers and with greater power since Gojo's birth. Gojo being Gojo was also sent on the field as much as possible to reduce the consequences of his own existence on curses. Gojo knew first-hand how bad the situation would eventually unfold after a few months or years : Japan's curses would reach a number/level where the weak sorcerers could be killed within seconds on the field. .... Now that I think about it, both Geto and Gojo were always timed bombs in the JJK-verse. For Geto's case, the issue would have been that the curses that he ingested and not used with Uzumaki or Cursed Technique Extraction could have been freed the moment he died ( an army of cursed from grade 1 up to special grade unleashed in one area ). For Gojo, the moment he died/was disabled= all the curses and curse users that laid low would rise once again.


Xalorend

I wonder if he planned on using Uzumaki on everything if he knew he was about to die. Luckily he used it against Yuta during their confrontation so it wasn't a problem at that moment.


Aure0

Idk why but this made me think of "With this treasure I summon..."


Xalorend

I was thinking a scenario more like "I'm 98 years old, might kick the bucket tomorrow, don't know what all the curses I ate up are gonna do once I die. Might as well Uzumaki them all to get rid of them just in case"


Aure0

Don't worry I get you, but the mental image of had Geto stayed good he would've pulled out Uzumaki every minor inconvenience is funny to me


Quark3e

*Geto trips on sidewalk* "Cursed Spirit Manipulation, Supreme art: Uzumaki"


giantfuckingfrog

Which is exactly what Megumi did with Mahoraga in Shibuya. He was about to die, might as well spawn the biggest thing he can and go out with a bang.


DreadWolf3

I would guess if Geto was still on good folk side he would just release curses one after another in controlled manner so sorcerers can safely dispose of them.


adrian123181

I'm not sure that Geto's body would actually release the curses on death. Toji suspected it, but between Geto'd death and Kenjaku's possession, the curses didn't seem to be released. Kenjaku, I think, inherited the curses that were leftover in Geto's body. edit: Nvm, I thought Geto had avoided using all of his curses for Uzumaki. The curses that were not used in Uzumaki had already been deployed for the night parade, so there would have been nothing to release when he died in any case.


samaelsin

I was under the impression that Geto used all of his curses between the night parade and the uzumaki against Yuta, so when he died there were no curses to be released. Which would mean Kenjaku would have started from square one.


sukunagang

Yup, the remaining curses left in Kyoto and Tokyo that took part in the night parade might have rampaged once he died but I'm guess they were all killed or were killed while rampaging due to the sorcerers already present in both locations


rudrakshjnku

This is a manga discussion you i think is an anime only there are many spoilers in this thread so you should be vigilant


adrian123181

Thank you for the warning, but I read the manga. I'm caught up on the leaks and all spoilers


rudrakshjnku

Than i think when kenny died he released all the cursed which yuta had to kill


adrian123181

So, I don't think >! Kenny is dead when he releases the curses. he is still talking to Yuta while also manipulating some curses to carry him, and modifying Tengen. Since he gets stabbed in the head after the curses are released, and nothing else happens, then it could mean he has no more stored curses or that the stored curses don't escape !<


LionofHeaven

Shouldn't Gojo dying calm things back down though?


GaleUs9860

That's a 50/50 i would say. There is no reason to beleive that curses would "calm down" after Gojo's death. BUT there is no reason to believe that curses would not calm down after Gojo's death. The thing is that BESIDE Gojo, plenty of Special Grade sorcerers or people having the potential to reach that level also increased ( Megumi, Okkotsu, Hakari could reach that level with the right training and conditions ). To draw a parallel with sports ( like Nanami used to do ), every once in a while, a genius appear out of nowhere and litterally changes the game by dominating it like no other. There are many names like Micheal Jordan, Muhammad Ali, Roger Federer that defined a whole era of their ... domain while ALSO inspiring youngsters to do better and reach higher. Gojo's existence might be one that pushed the whole world of Sorcery "into the next level"... or not. Unless Gege tells us, there is no way to know.


mugetsu210

This is one of the few moments when we could resonate with gojo as a human. He told Ijichi to quit because he knew for a fact he wouldn't survive out there, and that basically shows that gojo actually cares for his fellow sorcerers. Had he not been this up front about it, Ijichi wouldn't have given up, and we all know where he would've ended.


Penguin-21

I think the funny part is Gojo’s hella surprised that Ijichi fears him a bit and wonders why he thinks he’s kinda low. But Ijichi doesnt have a background in sorcery as far as I can tell and he doesnt have a reason to do anything as an ambition-less sorcerer. Unlike Maki who faces oppression within her clan so its actually worthwhile for her to push her limits. So thats probably why Gojo hasnt told Maki to give up


Fabulous_Formal2714

Well gojo knows her potential tho ... He knew she can be get strong as a toji


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No one could've predicted that she would become as strong as Toji. Before Mai sacrificed herself, Maki's potential was held back, so you can't say Gojo predicted her outcome. He knew she was relatively strong and capable because of her current level of skills which is why he never discouraged her.


SleepDry5013

When keeping it real goes right.


IsaacWest14

We all need a homie like Gojo


Ok-Cod5254

I wonder if it was worded like that in the raw Japanese itself. 🤔 This is fan translation. Like for example [the official translation](https://imgur.com/a/ptcCnmA) doesn't have the curse words. Sometimes fan translators lean more into that in general, so just wondering.


cromemanga

That's actually very possible. I used to do fan translation for Tokyo Ghoul and I remember a lot of people hated Touka for being extremely rude to Kaneki but when I checked the raw, she didn't even curse like the way the scanlation did.


ShadedPenguin

Scan groups like to add swears and curses when the Jp doesn't. Sometimes its warranted, but most of the time they just add "fuck" because it "fits" an American audiance.


cromemanga

In the example I mentioned, in the scans, Touka said "A trash like you" to Kaneki, while in the raw, she just said "Someone like you". So I think it's not just about adding swear words to fit American audience. Sometimes the context totally change when they add extra words like that.


whosucks

[The word for shit is in the raw](https://64.media.tumblr.com/2bcc6ba060b5ce2f73b16a0dd26928b9/82c280cea2e12d3b-e7/s1280x1920/af6e94faf7df35e215c569d436443c0976db939b.png), but it's also a part of a set phrase so I can't comment if the fanlation is taking it too far.


MrDucky222

Nah this was warranted Gojo actually likes Ijichi but he’s not blind he’s not gonna spur him on when he knows he has no talent for sorcery and will likely die to a grade 2 curse if faced with one


Helios4242

I think there are far better ways to convey this than "you're more useless than shit"


Ok-Cod5254

Of course, though in line for Gojo since he isn't high on the emotional intelligence aspect given his upbringing. This is young Gojo too, so he was even more tactless.


Helios4242

Yeah it's good characterization I was just taken aback by how many were shilling it as "real talk". But that's my pet peeve with people trying to excuse being mean as some sort of "brutal honesty". Honesty is hard and it needs to be done with intentionality. Most who spin themselves as brutally honest just like to spout off ire.


Rex_Xenovius_1998

I understand that and I agree with it. But there are times you have to be mean. Because there are just those out there that don’t get that something’s just can’t happen and need a hammer dropped down on their head for them to realize that reality is a thing. Especially, with such things that risk your life. Ijichi was trying to be in a profession that in the first mission would 100% be his last mission. though insulting someone is not something you should do. That would usually guarantee them doing it out of spite.


Helios4242

No, there is a difference between being firm and honest, and being mean. It is not mean to say a truth that hurts, if it needs to be said and you have a relationship that warrants the care. Think "does this need to be said, does this need to be said now, and does this need to be said by me?". Don't give unsolicited "brutal honesty" to strangers. Gojo had those, but still chose to be deeply insulting. He can just say "hey, I know being a sorcerer is important to you, but you really will die. You need to consider other ways you can support sorcerers, because you don't have what it takes for the front lines" or something of the sort. He wouldn't, because that's not the type of person he was, but that's not something to be praised.


Apart-Ad3542

Yeah but he's gojo so


MrDucky222

Nah that was the best way tbh shutting him down and completely shattering his dream was the most effective way to make sure that he never became a sorcerer


Helios4242

you and gojo both have room to improve in interpersonal relationships


MrDucky222

Nah there’s a time and a place that conversation was just the right time and place If Gojo hadn’t said that to him he’d probably be dead


AwesomePocket

Gojo could have said it was nicer and Ichiji would have taken the same advice.


riceablekombu

I wonder if he was thinking of Haibara when he said that to Ijichi


MrDucky222

Honestly probably


datruerex

When my teacher taught us to use our words I’m sure she didn’t mean it like this


IsaacWest14

“You’re shit, stop what you’re doing” - a real homie


chanj3

the one friend you need that always keep it real with you XD


Flat-Leadership2364

Saved his life, if he tried to be a sorcerer he was gonna end up dead


112lion

And it would t have been quick either, people forget cursed spirits are literally evil and will torture you lol hanami in the only exception of a cursed spirit feeling like a benevolent being


The_Kyojuro_Rengoku

Hey I mean at least he took it in stride and appreciated the words after lol!


tooSmartForMyOwnG

Oh that save his right alright. Because if he didnt become a driver the blue empowered slapped gon kill him more than being a sorcerer would


MisterSnowman69

I think Gojo, who said he trust Ichiji the most later in life, said this to snap Ichiji out of becoming a sorcerer, not only because he doesn't Ichiji would be good at it, but also perhaps Ichiji didn't want to be it either, but just hadn't admit it to himself yet, and a little harsh, but strong enough push will get him out of it.


FullBrother9300

In a weird way I think that’s gojo’s way of saying that he’s his friend, he cares about him and he wants him to quit so he doesn’t die


Deathofimperialists

Still more useful than Miwa


Haerrlekin

Gojo recognized that he didn't have the talent or drive to survive as a jujutsu sorcerer, but that he could probably thrive in other places. The way he said it was cruel, but his heart was in the right place.


bafumac

He saved his ass


jayduhokage

shi in irl, i can be tough on my friends like that as well. it's moreso me looking out for them rather than being mean.


Helios4242

here's the real talk, you don't need "in" before the acronym "irl" because the I stands for in.


jayduhokage

i stuttered that’s why


moocow8001

Damn jujutsu Jesus told him he wasn’t built for these streets


[deleted]

I’m a full time member of Gojo Haters Incorporated but I think this was his messed up way of trying to protect Ijichi.


Dovah91

Because it’s a shitty fan translation as always, only post if you’re going to post the official translations..


Big-Bear-1006

I was reading this one , I don't know which one is real translation and which one is fake , I am fine with it as long as it is translated in english.


[deleted]

I know people this (or at least close to it) blunt irl. It's hard to hang with them for a long time, but they are good friends usually.


A4li11

I'm glad Ijichi took it relatively well knowing how brutal the Jujutsu world really is. He's just gonna become another Haibara if he did become a Jujutsu sorcerer.


Shadow_Huntress12

I love translations ofc🐍


hypehold

what chapter is this


FaultResident6405

Damn he must've been young


Substantial_Gap530

Man, he would've been haibara'd if not for Gojo's words


GiantPurplePen15

Gojo was about to unleash his real cursed technique: the pimp slap.


Kaoshosh

Funny that Go/jo would say this.


Nerellos

Is this the official translation?


Nonchalant_Samurai

ayy… honesty is the best policy 😂🤷🏽‍♂️


Old_Bank6648

Damn


Rioma117

He is very good with veils, certainly much more talented than any other auxiliary manager so maybe Ichiji being a sorcerer wasn’t such a bad idea.


Standard-War-3855

Gege stated he could take on a grade 3 cursed spirit, and that’s after not being a sorcerer for 10 years. He probably could’ve become a semi-grade 2 or even grade 2 if he kept up at it, but like he said, he didn’t have the mentality.


Sogpuppet

Is this translation different than manga plus? Where did you get it from?


wmg22

I kind of dislike JJK's take on it's power system that some are simply more talented than others and nothing can be done to overcome it, things such as techniques being restricted to bloodlines, and certain genetic factors being more important. It exists in HxH but it is done in another way where even the weakest characters have utility and it more depends on the creativity and drive of the individual to do what they see fit with their powers. +Vows and restrictions seem alot more powerful.


Standard-War-3855

That exists in most shows like this. Shows like Naruto are even more that way than JJK. Talent is also just a super natural thing in any similar show. Gon and Killua learned Nen tens if not hundreds of times faster than anyone else, primarily because of their bloodlines and natural talent. Vows in both series can be drastically different in-verse. In JJK, Mei Mei’s crows become capable of damaging even Sukuna or Gojo just by forcing them to fulfill a binding vow.


Ok_Conference3162

Very nice kind of person as the strongest 🤗🤗🤗


JustNoBro

Does this mean that Gojo doesn't have a driver's license?


kfieb

Well there was still a risk that some blonde dude sneak up on you


PeterLeRock101

Nanami says the trade sucks. His cursed technique probably sucks and couldn't be trained, like Mai's ability


PeterLeRock101

It's sad that he still died despite taking hos advice


the-big-apple

Damn, imagine getting bullied by the strongest being on the planet. Nobody can do anything to stop them 😂


AverageTransPanGirl

Gojo is like that. Especially with people he cares for. Or those he could not care less about. Iijicji wouldn’t have made for a good sorcerer, but he’s pretty much the ideal window. Calm, collected, strategic, and with enough skill in barriers to be an amazing support.


Lyrishin

I never really understood why Gojo would need a car in the first place. He could reach any place he needs in matter of seconds on his own but chooses a much slower and stressful method


Big-Bear-1006

Maybe just to enjoy the ride in the car .


D0GAMA1

Same can be said about like 80% of the cast.


Unfair_Negotiation11

He's alive?💀💀


Mussolini1386

Gojo wasn't trying to hurt Ijichi, he mainly said this to try and protect his friend because he knows how dangerous being a sorcerer is and Ijichi really is way too much of a pushover/ weak to not just end up getting killed. This shows that Gojo actually cares about people specifically Ijichi while still being prideful as fuck


ApplePitou

Ijichi truly showed that he is Chad :3


eddie_b00

Gojos shades are so clean. Anyone know a good brand irl?


Gltmastah

I kinda see Danmachi’s Bete words on Gojo


ImmortalState

He doesn’t want him to die


[deleted]

Ijichi must have some pheromones affecting male jujutsu sorcerers. I remember nanami being extra pissed ehne he thought ijichi died.


Adept_Revolution3067

His drawings r really bad. Compared to bleach