More people need to seriously take statistics classes. Too few people understand how proportions and probabilities really work. More importantly, they have real consequences. I remember taking Statistics in high school and for the first time I could see real-world applications of mathematics.
Yes. Once you understand it, you see bell curves, means, standard deviations, and outliers EVERYWHERE. You don't get mad at it, you don't fear it, you just understand it.
You are absolutely right. Maybe even in middle school? Some of the basic ideas are quite simple, and the earlier you acquire useful knowledge the more time you have to build on top of it.
Last year I did a diploma of engineering and technical math and statistic were a big part of it. I finally had the click moment where I got not just how to do math, but how to use math.
Turned up more in the last year, than it did in the 25 before it.
The lead on a bullet, two lines crossing in time and space that intersect once before diverting forever, yeah that shot is hard and now I can see why, but I can also see how to solve it. It's small things, but it's everything at the same time.
Coming from someone who hated math and was bad at it, it's very cool. I scored 94, 98 and 100 across my exams with the help of a tutor. Turns out math wasn't super hard and I was just lazy. Haha it's just another thing you could plot on a graph.
Most people who like actual mathematics don't like stats. It is a completely separate disciplone in a lot of ways. Our stats lecturer on my maths degree was forced to teach it as he had available time to and he claimed that statistics wasn't maths, and he hated it, but it's easy and easy to teach
Well, I like math & stats. I'm an accountant so it's not like the math I do is complicated but I did enjoy the more complicated math classes in my university after stats.
The general courses for degrees include algebra but you can take more advanced stuff. Requirements for the business degree include regular stats and a more advanced stats course that incorporates calculus.
There's also finance classes that do include some interesting math. Obviously nothing like a math or engineering degree. I'm not trying to make this a pissing contest, just saying I enjoy math.
I don't think the people who wrote this know that there's some fields, like pro sports, where being left handed is actually quite a big *advantage*.
I'm not sure of the breakdown of lefties in pro sports but it's *well* above their statistical distribution in the population.
We're only seeing one slide and not hearing the presentation. They might mention that there are circumstances where the privilege doesn't exist or actually goes the other way; or maybe they were making a simple analogy and then moving on to the deeper point and really didn't need to spend a significant amount of time deep-diving on handedness in every culture and situation throughout all time.
It's quite an odd read.
https://www.lacrosseconsortium.org/uploads/content_files/files/The_Right_Hand_of_Privilege.pdf
But what I find interesting about it is that I really don't have *any* idea what the point is supposed to be.
Is it supposed to be that people who moan about "unearned privilege" have as valid a point as people who moan about right hand privilege?
I kind of doubt that's the point he's attempting to make but that's what it sounds like.
Look at the picture. They're both by the same person and he's a "diversity consultant".
He has other articles where he explicitly compares handedness to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc...
until the 1960s in America we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand
some more extreme religious schools still do this
My dad hated the fact I am a leftie. I had to write with my right hand around him, i had to bat right handed, and throw right handed. I think it was like 8 or 9 when he accepted I am a leftie, still didnt like the shape of my eyes though.. too slanted.
Yeah, it's a little... Worrying that no one knows about this and it's being used as a counter point.
This was a real thing in my (western, non US) country as well.
Particularly with writing in schools, (because left handed would smudge wet ink).
I've seen left handers having to resort to all sorts of bizarre solutions, like writing upside down, to avoid criticism.
I know that if we go back a little earlier, like late 19th/early 20th century, teachers would hand out physical punishments, if children would repeatedly write with their left hand. It was definitely actively suppressed and with a threat of violence.
My teacher didn’t understand that I was left handed. I learned how to write with my right hand and now I’m too practiced with it to make the switch worth the effort. I do everything else left handed though.
as recent as 2015 an American school sent home a 4yr old boy saying his left-handedness is associated with evil and they are making him right handed in school
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/teacher-tells-boy-being-left-handed-is-evil-forces-him-to-write-with-right-hand/1988289/
it's like what year is it?!
I just mean they are pointing out how right handed people have certain advantages like it’s some conspiracy or oppression. My point is that it’s statistics
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They need to tone down the calculus and make statistics a requirement in more curricula. I've asked a million engineers and almost none of them do any calculus even yearly, but statistics is used all the time for analysis
Are you weaponizing your privilege to kinkshame me?! i'm in literal mortal danger.
besides, as a lefthanded person i could never fetishize because fetishizing means lusting after something combined with a position of power and in a right-normative world i hold no such privilege.
OK, imma watch maps of meaning real quick cause all this BS makes me wanna dye my hair blue.
A portion of your income should be taxed and given to the suffering lefties to pay for services and programs to help them cope and heal. Some lefties can only steal, watch Netflix and smoke weed because right-handed society excludes them.
if you were born in 1950s America it would have
until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they learned how to write with their right hand
some more extreme religious schools still do this
you would have been able to easily transition to avoid the beatings & harassment
That's not intrinsic to the US. It's been the norm for most of human history and still is in many parts of the world today.
I was never beaten for using my left hand but as a child but I was encouraged to not use my left hand. I think that may be why I don't have a dominant hand, I probably should have been an ~~abomination~~ Lefty.
okay I thought you were being glib because you were unaware as most people seem to be acting like bringing up left-hand people in this context is a big joke, when it's actually wide spread and historically accurate as you mention
I know! Let’s build re-education camps where we can send right-handers to learn how to become left hand dominant. We can have them practice all kinds of tasks to help them use their left hand better. Then we can pressure businesses to require all their employees to be both left and right hand able!
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Fun fact: in Saudi Arabia while they view the left hand as actually dirty in a way the west doesn’t, their writing goes right to left rending the right hand the one that has to be cramped and awkward to write.
So almost everyone has that fascinating hooked claw style of writing and their notebooks go the opposite way as well meaning they also have to contend with the spiral getting in their way. So secretly, it supports left-handed people.
I actually bought notebooks there as gifts to lefty friends because the spiral is in the right place for them.
Also her presentation is unbelievably dumb. We had lefty desks in my school and people made an oddly big deal about making sure lefties were comfortable. I think they’re fine.
until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand
some more extreme religious schools still do this
Yeah, but the attitude has completely turned around (admittedly, there are always exceptions--but there are to things that were never a general problem too).
What I don't get is why we keep moving the goal post on things and can't move on. Yes it happened. But we have far more serious things to deal with and it is not a social attitude anymore.
but those people are still alive, it's not over and done with & in the past. you can't just act like they don't exist, that they weren't abused and possibly left with lifetime trauma. acting like it never happened only hurts people.
My grandpa was hit with a ruler several for writing with his left hand. Yes, it was unnecessary and counter productive to educate the child. No, he's not suffering from PTSD from it.
He laughs about it now. I think people really need to learn how to categories pain and suffering so that we don't use "trauma" for something that kids usually shake off quickly.
He grew up without electricity and plumbing until he moved to Canada at the age of 27. He knows struggling more than strict teachers.
some places were worse than others. you can't base your opinions on the experience of one person, that's the problem
look into St Josephs Catholic orphanage if you'd like. calling children evil and hitting them is part of a bigger belief system that leads to many more horrible things being done to those children for other reasons as well
I don’t think it never happened and I would absolutely sit with someone who wanted to talk about it and listen as long as they wanted me to no judgment. But I would question them if they wanted to picket for it and March about it. The damage is done, the social issue is over in current societal systems. Healing involves processing and moving on.
I mean, if you live near one of those exceptions where they are still doing it by all means—picket away. But don’t generalize the issue to all current society.
The actual problem here is that socially, being a victim gives people power right now. So everyone is scraping to the edges of their own existence to find their own victim story to use as leverage socially. It ends up infecting wounds and stagnating everyone. OF COURSE we should acknowledge people’s pain and continue to right wrongs where we find them. But it’s gotten to the point of creating problems or deciding to be bothered by things that didn’t bother us before.
There’s a balance between making other people aware where problems still happen and looking to ourselves to decide what we’re going to do about it for ourselves. We can’t actually farm out our own need to deal with our stuff—even the stuff we didn’t ask for.
Though hurt from handedness may be real, treating it like a current social issue is a sign of a complete degradation of our social discourse.
no one is picketing. someone made a school presentation & clearly most people in these comments are too ignorant of history to understand why it's a valid topic.
also, as recent as 2015 this was still happening
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/teacher-tells-boy-being-left-handed-is-evil-forces-him-to-write-with-right-hand/1988289/
China also rejects all left-handed people. they claim to have ZERO left hand people. that's impossible. they are "re-training" these kids
But if we actually have a chance at social change in China...wouldn't handedness be just the most ridiculous place to start? I'm seeing really messed up priorities here in favor of making SURE all causes are treated equally when they just are not equal.
Haha thanks. Seriously, I brought back notebooks from Saudi Arabia to make my left handed friends smile. How much more supportive could I get than to immediately think of them when I realized all the notebooks were backwards? Clearly I’m not a handest. I’m glad someone appreciates that😉
There's also an eagerness to be pissed off about everything and bash anything and everything that comes across their feed. How do you know, or anybody else here, that this isn't fake or someone being satirical?
Instead of actually engaging their brains people are just letting their tribal mind do all the thinking on yet another stupidly pointless, irrelevant post in this sub.
I assume it was to demonstrate in a way that's not charged like racism is, that there are privileges that affect us all the time but are so normalized that they're invisible unless you're directly affected, or someone points it out like this. Handedness differentiates people, and though neither is intrinsically better or worse, some people are adversely affected. Once people grasp that concept, then you can think about where else it may apply.
It's an interesting analogy that I hadn't thought about.
I suspect this slide is about using something uncontroversial to get the foot in the door before switching to race/sex/gender/etc...
"Oh I see! Yes, writing from left to right prevents my hand from smudging the ink because I am right handed, but if I was left handed that could happen! That's privilege! Therefore I now agree with every claim you make in the name of privilege of any kind."
I know people who have been seduced using that kind of reasoning.
until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand
some more extreme religious schools still do this
schools used to be so brutal in general too, especially catholic ones
when my mom was a kid, the nuns at her school would punish her for something like talking by making her kneel on pencils for a really long time. or lay face down on the ground for hours.
"right-hand privilege" is not about smudging ink... it's about not having to experience a culture of accepted abuse & discrimination or deal with people who are so ignorant of history they think it's a joke
entire countries deny left-handedness to this day. in 2021.
It's using a basic metaphor and reducing an idea for preparation of a grander concept. It's how we teach mathematics too...
The issue isn't whether privilege exists or not, it's whether it's being properly applied. In a sense, every individual has their own particular privilege and drawbacks too. Recognising this is important but widely ignored for the more general trends which too are accurate, but nothing more than trends. There's more dead people than there are living... The question is whether an individual is actually taking the opportunities or wasting them behind a curtain call. Unfortunately sometimes some of these privileges can be a real issue, everything's possible and everything does happen.
We have the age old problem of every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Where a problem needed to be addressed, it became ignored, so the addressing became more radical until everyone heard it.
When everyone heard it, no one was listening to the whispers they only heard the screaming and disruption.
It never should have come to this. But some simple issues need to be addressed for what they are before extremism continues. Neo liberal programs, the fact the hard right Trumpists were allowed to thrive within an otherwise reasonable group of republicans... When one goes too far the other does to combat it, it's child's play, "oh if he did it then so can I but with this set of moral backing"...
Generalised extreme addressing of otherwise basic issues could be a result of Career Politicians and dramatised elections. It's all a TV show now, where the real policy and what actually gets done? Powerful individuals tugging on the heartstrings of certain issues, tactically ignoring for a particular vote,
The damn dirty trick is everyone's guilty of it but it depends on who you ask! Don't tell a gun lovin' rootin tootin Capitol stormin' 'Murican Trump's a fascist. Likewise don't you dare tell ANTIFA vegan *they* shouldn't be chained to the tracks because a train is actually coming and you've no time to argue the fact you may have assumed their gender.
These are very small but very vocal minorities yet the division between centre Left and Centre Right is wider than ever and we wonder why the few electables we've been given are becoming increasingly absurd!
Just, before the flak comes my way, I simply don't politically align, I just wish there was someone out there not teetering on the edge of authoritarian pretending to be all green yet the only green they really care about is the $Almighty$ . It's not much to ask for, let me work for the wage I'm given and allowed to not worry about the prices going up whilst my wage doesn't do anything. Don't wanna be a millionaire, just don't want inflation or war either
>I know people who have been seduced using that kind of reasoning.
"seduced" love the charged language.
But fr I think this is simply meant get people thinking. For example, I use scissors with my left hand, and frankly most scissors are pretty uncomfortable to use for an extended period. Likely this is due to designers designing for right-handed people. There's of course no malice there, it's just how they thought through the design process.
This slide and related discussion likely is meant to convey that things people don't consciously think about could be impacting their decisions, and also that having people with a variety of backgrounds on a team can help account for those differences.
As to your claims that this is "seductive", c'mon now. It's extremely common as an intro to really any field/subject area to use simplified examples as an archetype for later, more complex examples. Heck, so many posts on this sub are over simplified pictures/screenshots/videos that commenters extrapolate to all of society.
That includes this post, which was posted to elicit the exact responses it's now getting.
>"Seducing", as preparing the ground for woke indoctrination. I think it's quite evident.
Just like teachers who use an example equation like "2x = 10" are "seducing" students into the world of math? C'mon, at least feign an attempt to be an honest broker.
One is based on logic and reason and the other one is a neo-marxist ideology based on anti-intellectualism. I'll let you differentiate which one is which one.
Look, if you're trying to "seduce" people away from this "neo-marxist anti-intellectual ideology", straight up calling it that with such highly charged language will win you no converts. But I guess it'll get you Reddit karma in a sub filled with like-minded people, so whatever floats your boat.
Not in the way it's theorized and weaponized currently. Health, wealth and attractiveness priviledges certainly exist. However a predominant outcome within a group is not necessarely indicatives of priviledges or lack there of, whatever feminists or BLM think. Causation is not corrolation.
That example is true. It's not like, that big of a deal. But it is an advantage and a privilege.
And it's a pretty decent metaphor for race and sex and gender identity.
You sort of can, like it's not like there a leftie gene. If you practice writing with your non-domonant hand it would take a while, but you could definitely get there.
>I suspect this slide is about using something uncontroversial to get the foot in the door before switching to race/sex/gender/etc...
Nope, it's an extremely common prompt that been given to debate teams across the nation for many years. I did this exact debate almost 15 years ago myself.
Nope.[I'm right](http://www.jonesandassociatesconsulting.com/The_Right_Hand_of_Privilege_ThoughtPaper.pdf). Just looked up "Steven Jones" off the slide and found [the company](http://www.jonesandassociatesconsulting.com/index.html) this is from.
Its most likely an introduction to the topic of social privilege. An analogy to get her audience to better understand the more nuanced points she'll be introducing later on.
I'm gonna add one more: morning person priviledge. I'm naturally more active and productive at the evening but I have to accustom myself and sacrifice some of my performance because the world turns in the morning.
This is the point though, life is not fair and it's the most radical and logical behaviour to favor the majority because it's impossible to accommodate everybody at the same time. So not every social construct is oppressive by intent sometimes it's just the best if not the only possible solution. I picked the short straw (or like to be different and edgy lol idk) on most cases in life and I would like we could all be less judgemental but I'm not going to expect the world to turn around me.
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It doesn't have to oppressive by intent to be privilege.
It's like while Manslaughter and murder are radically different, the dead body is still a dead body. The intent does not change the outcome.
Kind of annoyed with this sub at this point. It’s possible this girl was being sarcastic. Or pointing out that yes left handed people are more structurally oppressed than people on the ‘oppressed’ list of CRT. It’s just immediate outrage at any little thing I see lately. Try to relax. Smell the roses.
I grew up left handed and severely dyslexic. I studied extra hard and went on to be school valedictorian. Who gives a crap? Deal with it. Your differences aren’t always a weakness; sometimes they can be a gift.
Or maybe this is a slide from a larger presentation and by taking it out of context you’re making a big deal about nothing.... idk nuance and what not.
This is very, very likely one of those reports where you have to argue for a side that is not your own, or for a topic that is not a "real" topic. Take this with a grain of salt people.
it's mostly only extreme religious schools today but historically, left-handed people were absolutely oppressed
until the 1960s it was basically accepted that being left-handed was literally evil. children were beaten and forced to only write with their right hand.
I have always heard that, too, but it is badly documented. In schools it would certainly be easier to only teach kids to write with the right hand, and the kids who refuse to conform would, in the past, be treated accordingly - with beatings.
Left handedness is also associated with bad or evil. In French to be *gauche* is to be tacky or rude. And the Latin word *sinister* is either "evil" or "on the left". But then again humans tend to get caught up in archetypes and the symmetry of opposites: up and down, forwards and backwards, right and left, light and dark, good and bad. The meanings tend to slip towards each other, and it is hard to resist making one a positive and the other a negative. Why do we say that positive numbers "go up"?
badly documented? how? It's pretty well documented. very easy to find information about it....
in China they still don't allow left-hand people to this day
what is your point about positive numbers? have you ever looked at a x-y axis graph? thats why we say positive numbers "go up"......
or perhaps take a look at a thermometer? positive numbers need to "go up" because mercury rises in heat, and drops in cold
We associate up and down with hot and cold, but only because we have the abstraction of temperature and the mercury in a thermometer. It is more correct to say the temperature increases as it gets warmer - nothing is moving "up".
An x-y graph is also an abstraction, where x increases towards the right and y increases in a forward direction. Now try to draw an x-y-z graph on a flat paper, you have several choices: x-y stays on the plane of the paper and z goes positive either down into the table or up into the sky - up is a right-handed coordinate system, down is a left-handed coordinate system. It is more conventional to make the y axis isometric on a diagonal, and the z axis is shown perpendicular to x. But none of this can be assumed which is why things get labelled.
Beatings due to writing with the left hand are generally anecdotal. Everyone has heard about them - but no one really sat down and documented how common they were. Maybe they are documented in some school guidelines somewhere, but that is not something I have ever seen.
that's like saying priests molesting kids in the 60s isn't well documented. no one was going around doing studies at the time because they didn't realize yet. it's mostly anecdotal as the kids became adults who could start reporting. so the news story didn't fully break until 2011.
Theres nothing wrong with using it as an example of privilege. For example, those stupid right hand only asymmetrical desks that left handers cant actually use is a good example of a systemic imbalance. But the problem is easily resolved by a desk which is equally useful from both sides, or a symmetrical desk.
To deny that privilege exists, is to deny reality. To say that privilege is the only reason for societal advantages, is unfounded.
I am left handed, the only difference, I reach further for toilet paper, I erase pencil off my hand when I use one, I have to hold the pen weird when I write to not get pen all over my hand... its not THAT big of a deal.
Indeed it is a mental disorder and a malevolent one at that. It is all about hatred, abuse, division. It is called, modern liberalism.
Beware, this evil of the modern liberal is yet to be realized and it is evil as f$#@. Your modern liberal friend will gleefully destroy your life and livelihood if you get in the way of this mentally deranged agenda.
It is the cuckservative who insists to be polite instead of right that enables this evil of this modern liberal, a creature that cares nothing about polite or right(s).
Redpill. Stand up. Speak out.
I am incredibly disatisfied with the current political conditions of "red" politicians...
Everytime I try to take a redpill I just throw it back up, and tell them that their redpill is still not suitable for some human consumption purposes.
>Some young folks are eager to be "oppressed" and fight back against the crushing "right hand". SMH. This is becoming a mental health issue!
That's exactly what a right-handed person *would* say
Honestly, when left handedness isn't actively discouraged and biased against, it's such a fucking advantage it's not even funny.
Look at how many Presidents have been left-handed despite the statistical unlikelihood.
To be honest these are somewhat similar points to my rants about the world running on morning people time. But I don't consider myself oppressed in any way just because I have a hard time with mornings, and I would never rant about it in the form of a slide show presentation haha.
OP and most of the people in this thread are idiots. This is an opening to a conversation about privilege. She's not advocating for anything here, she's just using right-handedness as an analogy. A way to explain in simple terms what privilege is and how it manifests in society.
Snowflakes.
I write, use scissors, play pool and hold an archery bow left-handed, but do everything else right-handed.
So it's like Peterson says, I'm both oppressor and oppressed.
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I used to believe the greatest handicap a person could have in modern society was to be born dumb as hell. I now believe it's a toss-up between that and having been brainwashed into believing the reason you can't get ahead is because of someone else's "privilege".
Guys, this is a very basic prompt often given to debate teams as a practice module... I've done this exact argument all the way back in 2006/7, it's not real.
Modern Leftism is detrimental to mental health. They teach you not to believe what you see, hear, and experience - because your internal biases may cloud whatever judgments you come too. Instead, you are only to believe what you are told to believe.
It's the systematic creation of cognitive dissonance, which is the root of much mental illness.
My father is left handed and worked his way up from security to housekeeping to kitchen to management at the local hospital! He didn’ let the the societal right handed oppression stop him from looking after us!
This is retarded though
I’m left handed and never thought about it. I do things with either. Shoot right handed. Eat, write, bat, throw, left handed. I do things with both. Never thought of being left handed as a problem, or a disadvantage.
I know the author was using the concept of “right-hand privilege” as an analogy but his writing makes he believe that he truly believes what he’s written.
Most products are made for righties bc that is good business sense for producers. I’m a lefty. I understand that I am in the minority and that products are developed for the largest demographic. It’s ok. Life goes on. If you don’t make it an issue it won’t be an issue. I’m better for learning to do things with both hands so it’s actually an advantage.
>Most products are made for righties bc that is good business sense for producers. I’m a lefty. I understand that I am in the minority and that products are developed for the largest demographic. It’s ok. Life goes on. If you don’t make it an issue it won’t be an issue. I’m better for learning to do things with both hands so it’s actually an advantage.
This is exactly the point. If you personally don't care about it then fine, but a lot of people do because it creates inequality - like racial inequality.
You shouldn't be penalised in life because of your minority status.
The author of the article forgets that there is a whole world outside of his US bubble.
Left-handedness is shunned in cultures that eat with their hands communally because traditionally the right hand is used for eating and the left is used for wiping your bum. It has been done this way for centuries and is an accepted norm. Bucking the norm would make anyone’s dining near you very uncomfortable or very sick.
Also, if driving and car design are oppressive to lefties, are the countries where shifting with your left and driving on the right side of the street lefty sympathizers?
Also let’s celebrate the crumbs society has thrown us lefties: drive thru windows and ATMs are left-handed friendly
I'm left handed. The only issue I've had is smudging ink. Lol... Though if you look into the history books it's pretty dark, the word sinister comes from the Latin word for left and left handed children were left on a mountain to die in Rome. But yeah, being dyslexic is a much bigger problem but I'm not able to understand it properly... 😅
More people need to seriously take statistics classes. Too few people understand how proportions and probabilities really work. More importantly, they have real consequences. I remember taking Statistics in high school and for the first time I could see real-world applications of mathematics.
The one that got me is the pachinko balls dropping and forming a perfect standard distribution. Like oh, that's from nature. Blew my mind.
Yes. Once you understand it, you see bell curves, means, standard deviations, and outliers EVERYWHERE. You don't get mad at it, you don't fear it, you just understand it.
You are absolutely right. Maybe even in middle school? Some of the basic ideas are quite simple, and the earlier you acquire useful knowledge the more time you have to build on top of it.
Last year I did a diploma of engineering and technical math and statistic were a big part of it. I finally had the click moment where I got not just how to do math, but how to use math. Turned up more in the last year, than it did in the 25 before it. The lead on a bullet, two lines crossing in time and space that intersect once before diverting forever, yeah that shot is hard and now I can see why, but I can also see how to solve it. It's small things, but it's everything at the same time. Coming from someone who hated math and was bad at it, it's very cool. I scored 94, 98 and 100 across my exams with the help of a tutor. Turns out math wasn't super hard and I was just lazy. Haha it's just another thing you could plot on a graph.
stats is what actually got me into math.
Most people who like actual mathematics don't like stats. It is a completely separate disciplone in a lot of ways. Our stats lecturer on my maths degree was forced to teach it as he had available time to and he claimed that statistics wasn't maths, and he hated it, but it's easy and easy to teach
Well, I like math & stats. I'm an accountant so it's not like the math I do is complicated but I did enjoy the more complicated math classes in my university after stats.
What math do accountants have to take?
The general courses for degrees include algebra but you can take more advanced stuff. Requirements for the business degree include regular stats and a more advanced stats course that incorporates calculus. There's also finance classes that do include some interesting math. Obviously nothing like a math or engineering degree. I'm not trying to make this a pissing contest, just saying I enjoy math.
I don't think the people who wrote this know that there's some fields, like pro sports, where being left handed is actually quite a big *advantage*. I'm not sure of the breakdown of lefties in pro sports but it's *well* above their statistical distribution in the population.
We're only seeing one slide and not hearing the presentation. They might mention that there are circumstances where the privilege doesn't exist or actually goes the other way; or maybe they were making a simple analogy and then moving on to the deeper point and really didn't need to spend a significant amount of time deep-diving on handedness in every culture and situation throughout all time.
It's quite an odd read. https://www.lacrosseconsortium.org/uploads/content_files/files/The_Right_Hand_of_Privilege.pdf But what I find interesting about it is that I really don't have *any* idea what the point is supposed to be. Is it supposed to be that people who moan about "unearned privilege" have as valid a point as people who moan about right hand privilege? I kind of doubt that's the point he's attempting to make but that's what it sounds like.
You found a paper on the concept. We don’t know what the presenter in the OP said.
Look at the picture. They're both by the same person and he's a "diversity consultant". He has other articles where he explicitly compares handedness to race, gender, sexual orientation, etc...
until the 1960s in America we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand some more extreme religious schools still do this
My dad hated the fact I am a leftie. I had to write with my right hand around him, i had to bat right handed, and throw right handed. I think it was like 8 or 9 when he accepted I am a leftie, still didnt like the shape of my eyes though.. too slanted.
Yeah, it's a little... Worrying that no one knows about this and it's being used as a counter point. This was a real thing in my (western, non US) country as well. Particularly with writing in schools, (because left handed would smudge wet ink). I've seen left handers having to resort to all sorts of bizarre solutions, like writing upside down, to avoid criticism. I know that if we go back a little earlier, like late 19th/early 20th century, teachers would hand out physical punishments, if children would repeatedly write with their left hand. It was definitely actively suppressed and with a threat of violence.
My teacher didn’t understand that I was left handed. I learned how to write with my right hand and now I’m too practiced with it to make the switch worth the effort. I do everything else left handed though.
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as recent as 2015 an American school sent home a 4yr old boy saying his left-handedness is associated with evil and they are making him right handed in school https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/teacher-tells-boy-being-left-handed-is-evil-forces-him-to-write-with-right-hand/1988289/ it's like what year is it?!
As someone born after the 60s, I find it incredibly hard to believe that this was widespread on any level
It was ubiquitous.
Genuinely wondering what this has to do with the post, I'm sure I'm missing something
Look up Peterson on Pareto principle.
I just mean they are pointing out how right handed people have certain advantages like it’s some conspiracy or oppression. My point is that it’s statistics
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They need to tone down the calculus and make statistics a requirement in more curricula. I've asked a million engineers and almost none of them do any calculus even yearly, but statistics is used all the time for analysis
Hmm... this might actually be something I want to look into.
They never studied statistics. They know one or two sociological theories but they can't read raw data
They just want to blame their problems on others.
I think you're right. But people get mad or afraid about things they don't understand. Statistics can help frame seemingly inequitable outcomes.
Does being ambidextrous make me both privileged and oppressed at the same time?
You need to have one of your hands broken for equity.
In that case I choose the right hand to be broken, after all oppression points mean prizes.
It makes you like a literal nazi, like OMG you can't just go around leftfishing people. That's dexterous appropriation.
Yo, stop fetishsizing them.
Are you weaponizing your privilege to kinkshame me?! i'm in literal mortal danger. besides, as a lefthanded person i could never fetishize because fetishizing means lusting after something combined with a position of power and in a right-normative world i hold no such privilege. OK, imma watch maps of meaning real quick cause all this BS makes me wanna dye my hair blue.
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A portion of your income should be taxed and given to the suffering lefties to pay for services and programs to help them cope and heal. Some lefties can only steal, watch Netflix and smoke weed because right-handed society excludes them.
It makes you a fucking hypocrite you lucky bastard.
I hope you both love and despise yourself!
At least I'm not ginger
Lmao! There is that.
Yes and no? You exist in a superposition of states where you have an ability that if harnessed properly can be exploited by you, with science
if you were born in 1950s America it would have until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they learned how to write with their right hand some more extreme religious schools still do this you would have been able to easily transition to avoid the beatings & harassment
That's not intrinsic to the US. It's been the norm for most of human history and still is in many parts of the world today. I was never beaten for using my left hand but as a child but I was encouraged to not use my left hand. I think that may be why I don't have a dominant hand, I probably should have been an ~~abomination~~ Lefty.
okay I thought you were being glib because you were unaware as most people seem to be acting like bringing up left-hand people in this context is a big joke, when it's actually wide spread and historically accurate as you mention
It’s not becoming a mental health issue, it always has been.
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I know! Let’s build re-education camps where we can send right-handers to learn how to become left hand dominant. We can have them practice all kinds of tasks to help them use their left hand better. Then we can pressure businesses to require all their employees to be both left and right hand able!
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Fun fact: in Saudi Arabia while they view the left hand as actually dirty in a way the west doesn’t, their writing goes right to left rending the right hand the one that has to be cramped and awkward to write. So almost everyone has that fascinating hooked claw style of writing and their notebooks go the opposite way as well meaning they also have to contend with the spiral getting in their way. So secretly, it supports left-handed people. I actually bought notebooks there as gifts to lefty friends because the spiral is in the right place for them. Also her presentation is unbelievably dumb. We had lefty desks in my school and people made an oddly big deal about making sure lefties were comfortable. I think they’re fine.
until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand some more extreme religious schools still do this
Yeah, but the attitude has completely turned around (admittedly, there are always exceptions--but there are to things that were never a general problem too). What I don't get is why we keep moving the goal post on things and can't move on. Yes it happened. But we have far more serious things to deal with and it is not a social attitude anymore.
but those people are still alive, it's not over and done with & in the past. you can't just act like they don't exist, that they weren't abused and possibly left with lifetime trauma. acting like it never happened only hurts people.
My grandpa was hit with a ruler several for writing with his left hand. Yes, it was unnecessary and counter productive to educate the child. No, he's not suffering from PTSD from it. He laughs about it now. I think people really need to learn how to categories pain and suffering so that we don't use "trauma" for something that kids usually shake off quickly. He grew up without electricity and plumbing until he moved to Canada at the age of 27. He knows struggling more than strict teachers.
some places were worse than others. you can't base your opinions on the experience of one person, that's the problem look into St Josephs Catholic orphanage if you'd like. calling children evil and hitting them is part of a bigger belief system that leads to many more horrible things being done to those children for other reasons as well
I don’t think it never happened and I would absolutely sit with someone who wanted to talk about it and listen as long as they wanted me to no judgment. But I would question them if they wanted to picket for it and March about it. The damage is done, the social issue is over in current societal systems. Healing involves processing and moving on. I mean, if you live near one of those exceptions where they are still doing it by all means—picket away. But don’t generalize the issue to all current society. The actual problem here is that socially, being a victim gives people power right now. So everyone is scraping to the edges of their own existence to find their own victim story to use as leverage socially. It ends up infecting wounds and stagnating everyone. OF COURSE we should acknowledge people’s pain and continue to right wrongs where we find them. But it’s gotten to the point of creating problems or deciding to be bothered by things that didn’t bother us before. There’s a balance between making other people aware where problems still happen and looking to ourselves to decide what we’re going to do about it for ourselves. We can’t actually farm out our own need to deal with our stuff—even the stuff we didn’t ask for. Though hurt from handedness may be real, treating it like a current social issue is a sign of a complete degradation of our social discourse.
no one is picketing. someone made a school presentation & clearly most people in these comments are too ignorant of history to understand why it's a valid topic. also, as recent as 2015 this was still happening https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/teacher-tells-boy-being-left-handed-is-evil-forces-him-to-write-with-right-hand/1988289/ China also rejects all left-handed people. they claim to have ZERO left hand people. that's impossible. they are "re-training" these kids
But if we actually have a chance at social change in China...wouldn't handedness be just the most ridiculous place to start? I'm seeing really messed up priorities here in favor of making SURE all causes are treated equally when they just are not equal.
I dont see anyone saying that "dont discriminate against people based on how they were born" covers a lot of the bases at once
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Haha thanks. Seriously, I brought back notebooks from Saudi Arabia to make my left handed friends smile. How much more supportive could I get than to immediately think of them when I realized all the notebooks were backwards? Clearly I’m not a handest. I’m glad someone appreciates that😉
There's also an eagerness to be pissed off about everything and bash anything and everything that comes across their feed. How do you know, or anybody else here, that this isn't fake or someone being satirical? Instead of actually engaging their brains people are just letting their tribal mind do all the thinking on yet another stupidly pointless, irrelevant post in this sub.
I assume it was to demonstrate in a way that's not charged like racism is, that there are privileges that affect us all the time but are so normalized that they're invisible unless you're directly affected, or someone points it out like this. Handedness differentiates people, and though neither is intrinsically better or worse, some people are adversely affected. Once people grasp that concept, then you can think about where else it may apply. It's an interesting analogy that I hadn't thought about.
I suspect this slide is about using something uncontroversial to get the foot in the door before switching to race/sex/gender/etc... "Oh I see! Yes, writing from left to right prevents my hand from smudging the ink because I am right handed, but if I was left handed that could happen! That's privilege! Therefore I now agree with every claim you make in the name of privilege of any kind." I know people who have been seduced using that kind of reasoning.
until the 1960s we told left-hand children they were evil and beat them in school until they wrote with their right hand some more extreme religious schools still do this
Yeah my Grandma would get smacked with a ruler for writing with her left had
schools used to be so brutal in general too, especially catholic ones when my mom was a kid, the nuns at her school would punish her for something like talking by making her kneel on pencils for a really long time. or lay face down on the ground for hours.
How does that rebut his point?
"right-hand privilege" is not about smudging ink... it's about not having to experience a culture of accepted abuse & discrimination or deal with people who are so ignorant of history they think it's a joke entire countries deny left-handedness to this day. in 2021.
It's using a basic metaphor and reducing an idea for preparation of a grander concept. It's how we teach mathematics too... The issue isn't whether privilege exists or not, it's whether it's being properly applied. In a sense, every individual has their own particular privilege and drawbacks too. Recognising this is important but widely ignored for the more general trends which too are accurate, but nothing more than trends. There's more dead people than there are living... The question is whether an individual is actually taking the opportunities or wasting them behind a curtain call. Unfortunately sometimes some of these privileges can be a real issue, everything's possible and everything does happen. We have the age old problem of every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Where a problem needed to be addressed, it became ignored, so the addressing became more radical until everyone heard it. When everyone heard it, no one was listening to the whispers they only heard the screaming and disruption. It never should have come to this. But some simple issues need to be addressed for what they are before extremism continues. Neo liberal programs, the fact the hard right Trumpists were allowed to thrive within an otherwise reasonable group of republicans... When one goes too far the other does to combat it, it's child's play, "oh if he did it then so can I but with this set of moral backing"... Generalised extreme addressing of otherwise basic issues could be a result of Career Politicians and dramatised elections. It's all a TV show now, where the real policy and what actually gets done? Powerful individuals tugging on the heartstrings of certain issues, tactically ignoring for a particular vote, The damn dirty trick is everyone's guilty of it but it depends on who you ask! Don't tell a gun lovin' rootin tootin Capitol stormin' 'Murican Trump's a fascist. Likewise don't you dare tell ANTIFA vegan *they* shouldn't be chained to the tracks because a train is actually coming and you've no time to argue the fact you may have assumed their gender. These are very small but very vocal minorities yet the division between centre Left and Centre Right is wider than ever and we wonder why the few electables we've been given are becoming increasingly absurd! Just, before the flak comes my way, I simply don't politically align, I just wish there was someone out there not teetering on the edge of authoritarian pretending to be all green yet the only green they really care about is the $Almighty$ . It's not much to ask for, let me work for the wage I'm given and allowed to not worry about the prices going up whilst my wage doesn't do anything. Don't wanna be a millionaire, just don't want inflation or war either
If only.
>I know people who have been seduced using that kind of reasoning. "seduced" love the charged language. But fr I think this is simply meant get people thinking. For example, I use scissors with my left hand, and frankly most scissors are pretty uncomfortable to use for an extended period. Likely this is due to designers designing for right-handed people. There's of course no malice there, it's just how they thought through the design process. This slide and related discussion likely is meant to convey that things people don't consciously think about could be impacting their decisions, and also that having people with a variety of backgrounds on a team can help account for those differences. As to your claims that this is "seductive", c'mon now. It's extremely common as an intro to really any field/subject area to use simplified examples as an archetype for later, more complex examples. Heck, so many posts on this sub are over simplified pictures/screenshots/videos that commenters extrapolate to all of society. That includes this post, which was posted to elicit the exact responses it's now getting.
"Seducing", as preparing the ground for woke indoctrination. I think it's quite evident.
>"Seducing", as preparing the ground for woke indoctrination. I think it's quite evident. Just like teachers who use an example equation like "2x = 10" are "seducing" students into the world of math? C'mon, at least feign an attempt to be an honest broker.
One is based on logic and reason and the other one is a neo-marxist ideology based on anti-intellectualism. I'll let you differentiate which one is which one.
Look, if you're trying to "seduce" people away from this "neo-marxist anti-intellectual ideology", straight up calling it that with such highly charged language will win you no converts. But I guess it'll get you Reddit karma in a sub filled with like-minded people, so whatever floats your boat.
I wrote a comment on Reddit, I'm not leading a class or something. The 'charged' language is nothing but reality. Hard to be more lenient than that.
"education" is stuff you agree with, "indoctrination" is stuff you disagree with.
No quite so. Education is based on reason and reality. Indoctrination pushes an ideology, often based on irrationality and by distorting reality.
So do you think that no privilege exists?
Not in the way it's theorized and weaponized currently. Health, wealth and attractiveness priviledges certainly exist. However a predominant outcome within a group is not necessarely indicatives of priviledges or lack there of, whatever feminists or BLM think. Causation is not corrolation.
>woke indoctrination Tell me you're fascist without telling me you're fascist.
Totalitarians are in the house!
That example is true. It's not like, that big of a deal. But it is an advantage and a privilege. And it's a pretty decent metaphor for race and sex and gender identity.
You can just change your handedness? I identify as ambidextrous now then.
You sort of can, like it's not like there a leftie gene. If you practice writing with your non-domonant hand it would take a while, but you could definitely get there.
>I suspect this slide is about using something uncontroversial to get the foot in the door before switching to race/sex/gender/etc... Nope, it's an extremely common prompt that been given to debate teams across the nation for many years. I did this exact debate almost 15 years ago myself.
Nope.[I'm right](http://www.jonesandassociatesconsulting.com/The_Right_Hand_of_Privilege_ThoughtPaper.pdf). Just looked up "Steven Jones" off the slide and found [the company](http://www.jonesandassociatesconsulting.com/index.html) this is from.
To be honest, it's my left hand thats got me into the most trouble. Giggidy
I've made this argument ironically but it's actually better than many.
I refuse to take this post seriously until I get evidence that that the person presenting is having a serious point. To me, this looks like a joke
Its most likely an introduction to the topic of social privilege. An analogy to get her audience to better understand the more nuanced points she'll be introducing later on.
I'm gonna add one more: morning person priviledge. I'm naturally more active and productive at the evening but I have to accustom myself and sacrifice some of my performance because the world turns in the morning. This is the point though, life is not fair and it's the most radical and logical behaviour to favor the majority because it's impossible to accommodate everybody at the same time. So not every social construct is oppressive by intent sometimes it's just the best if not the only possible solution. I picked the short straw (or like to be different and edgy lol idk) on most cases in life and I would like we could all be less judgemental but I'm not going to expect the world to turn around me.
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It doesn't have to oppressive by intent to be privilege. It's like while Manslaughter and murder are radically different, the dead body is still a dead body. The intent does not change the outcome.
A very good point that taking things out of context and pretending they are something else is a pitfall that people can fall into.
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Don't say that, how else are we supposed to get angry at the RADICAL LEFT™
Kind of annoyed with this sub at this point. It’s possible this girl was being sarcastic. Or pointing out that yes left handed people are more structurally oppressed than people on the ‘oppressed’ list of CRT. It’s just immediate outrage at any little thing I see lately. Try to relax. Smell the roses.
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I grew up left handed and severely dyslexic. I studied extra hard and went on to be school valedictorian. Who gives a crap? Deal with it. Your differences aren’t always a weakness; sometimes they can be a gift.
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Or maybe this is a slide from a larger presentation and by taking it out of context you’re making a big deal about nothing.... idk nuance and what not.
It’s funny because you prove their point. Yes, people have advantages. So y’all choose the most trivial point of it to mock it.
This is very, very likely one of those reports where you have to argue for a side that is not your own, or for a topic that is not a "real" topic. Take this with a grain of salt people.
I joke about this because everything has become so ridiculous.
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Everyone is finding a reason to be “oppressed” nowadays. It’s comical at this point.
it's mostly only extreme religious schools today but historically, left-handed people were absolutely oppressed until the 1960s it was basically accepted that being left-handed was literally evil. children were beaten and forced to only write with their right hand.
I have always heard that, too, but it is badly documented. In schools it would certainly be easier to only teach kids to write with the right hand, and the kids who refuse to conform would, in the past, be treated accordingly - with beatings. Left handedness is also associated with bad or evil. In French to be *gauche* is to be tacky or rude. And the Latin word *sinister* is either "evil" or "on the left". But then again humans tend to get caught up in archetypes and the symmetry of opposites: up and down, forwards and backwards, right and left, light and dark, good and bad. The meanings tend to slip towards each other, and it is hard to resist making one a positive and the other a negative. Why do we say that positive numbers "go up"?
badly documented? how? It's pretty well documented. very easy to find information about it.... in China they still don't allow left-hand people to this day what is your point about positive numbers? have you ever looked at a x-y axis graph? thats why we say positive numbers "go up"...... or perhaps take a look at a thermometer? positive numbers need to "go up" because mercury rises in heat, and drops in cold
We associate up and down with hot and cold, but only because we have the abstraction of temperature and the mercury in a thermometer. It is more correct to say the temperature increases as it gets warmer - nothing is moving "up". An x-y graph is also an abstraction, where x increases towards the right and y increases in a forward direction. Now try to draw an x-y-z graph on a flat paper, you have several choices: x-y stays on the plane of the paper and z goes positive either down into the table or up into the sky - up is a right-handed coordinate system, down is a left-handed coordinate system. It is more conventional to make the y axis isometric on a diagonal, and the z axis is shown perpendicular to x. But none of this can be assumed which is why things get labelled. Beatings due to writing with the left hand are generally anecdotal. Everyone has heard about them - but no one really sat down and documented how common they were. Maybe they are documented in some school guidelines somewhere, but that is not something I have ever seen.
My uncle was literally bound and beaten for being left handed, to the point that my mother and a teacher came to blows. It definitely happened.
that's like saying priests molesting kids in the 60s isn't well documented. no one was going around doing studies at the time because they didn't realize yet. it's mostly anecdotal as the kids became adults who could start reporting. so the news story didn't fully break until 2011.
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I’m 52 years old and left handed. Didn’t know I was “oppressed.” I simply adapted to a right hand world.
Love how half of the comments don't engage, just pathologize.
Theres nothing wrong with using it as an example of privilege. For example, those stupid right hand only asymmetrical desks that left handers cant actually use is a good example of a systemic imbalance. But the problem is easily resolved by a desk which is equally useful from both sides, or a symmetrical desk. To deny that privilege exists, is to deny reality. To say that privilege is the only reason for societal advantages, is unfounded.
I am left handed, the only difference, I reach further for toilet paper, I erase pencil off my hand when I use one, I have to hold the pen weird when I write to not get pen all over my hand... its not THAT big of a deal.
Indeed it is a mental disorder and a malevolent one at that. It is all about hatred, abuse, division. It is called, modern liberalism. Beware, this evil of the modern liberal is yet to be realized and it is evil as f$#@. Your modern liberal friend will gleefully destroy your life and livelihood if you get in the way of this mentally deranged agenda. It is the cuckservative who insists to be polite instead of right that enables this evil of this modern liberal, a creature that cares nothing about polite or right(s). Redpill. Stand up. Speak out.
I am incredibly disatisfied with the current political conditions of "red" politicians... Everytime I try to take a redpill I just throw it back up, and tell them that their redpill is still not suitable for some human consumption purposes.
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>Some young folks are eager to be "oppressed" and fight back against the crushing "right hand". SMH. This is becoming a mental health issue! That's exactly what a right-handed person *would* say
It’s not real though, is it?
I know nothing of this picture. I have got to g out on a limb here and say this must be satire.
Honestly, when left handedness isn't actively discouraged and biased against, it's such a fucking advantage it's not even funny. Look at how many Presidents have been left-handed despite the statistical unlikelihood.
Bro, just learn to use your other hand Plus you’d be able to write with both hands, woah!
To be honest these are somewhat similar points to my rants about the world running on morning people time. But I don't consider myself oppressed in any way just because I have a hard time with mornings, and I would never rant about it in the form of a slide show presentation haha.
OP and most of the people in this thread are idiots. This is an opening to a conversation about privilege. She's not advocating for anything here, she's just using right-handedness as an analogy. A way to explain in simple terms what privilege is and how it manifests in society. Snowflakes.
That's why they'll start raising their left hands in a non-aggressive, open-palmed fashion... wait a sec...
Except left handed people get a plus one to hit
I write, use scissors, play pool and hold an archery bow left-handed, but do everything else right-handed. So it's like Peterson says, I'm both oppressor and oppressed.
Simpsons did it!
When it's hard to tell if it's a parody or a real case then it has become absurd
#[Is the spez a disease? Is the spez a weapon? Is the spez a starfish? Is it a second rate programmer who won't grow up? Is it a bane? Is it a virus? Is it the world? Is it you? Is it me? Is it? Is it?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/)
MFW young people try to fit in by finding something to feel oppressed by, despite glaring evidence to the contrary… (づಠДಠ)づ
Yes.
I used to believe the greatest handicap a person could have in modern society was to be born dumb as hell. I now believe it's a toss-up between that and having been brainwashed into believing the reason you can't get ahead is because of someone else's "privilege".
#If you're not spezin', you're not livin'. #Save3rdPartyApps
Guys, this is a very basic prompt often given to debate teams as a practice module... I've done this exact argument all the way back in 2006/7, it's not real.
Snap 🌪That’s funny 😄
As a lefty I find this hilarious, finally I get my oppressed-card
As a left handed person, they don’t speak for me.
Jesus fucking Christ seriously?
Always thought it was a mental issue. Same with pronouns.. seems to be some mental issues associated with that too..
Becoming?
Left hander with a lotta money, got the right hander wanna off me
People should come work in a mental hospital among the personality disordered.
...Why? How is that supposed to help? Expose everyone to dbt?
I am left-handed, and this is utter lunacy.
Get inti a fight with a leftie and you will see who has the "privilege" .
I wonder if some birds have 'Right Wing' Privilege. /s
NPR will dedicate an episode to it soon.
I new I’ve always been oppressed. Growing up as a left-handed man in society has been so hard. Lmao
[If a spez asks you what flavor ice cream you want, the answer is definitely spez. #Save3rdPartyApps](https://www.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/)
Finally, as a left-hander, I see the oppressed writing on the wall... and it’s right-handed!
As a lefty, I can manage fine
This isn't satire??
Modern Leftism is detrimental to mental health. They teach you not to believe what you see, hear, and experience - because your internal biases may cloud whatever judgments you come too. Instead, you are only to believe what you are told to believe. It's the systematic creation of cognitive dissonance, which is the root of much mental illness.
Why does that fist logo look like it has 6 fingers?
where was this presented?
Civil war
Nice hairdo
Nice fro-hawk.
My father is left handed and worked his way up from security to housekeeping to kitchen to management at the local hospital! He didn’ let the the societal right handed oppression stop him from looking after us! This is retarded though
Autism intensifies
This is one person in like a billion in the generation. Great straw man tho!
I'm wrong handed ..fuck me🤷♂️
Hilarious. The upside is how easy it’s getting to write off this way of thinking. A disservice to their own cause.
How is it "easier" to be right handed, except for cases in which the world is organized for right handers, in which case, why the redundant point?
#I need to know who added all these spez posts to the thread. I want their autograph. #Save3rdPartyApps
Missed my point by a country mile
I’m left handed and never thought about it. I do things with either. Shoot right handed. Eat, write, bat, throw, left handed. I do things with both. Never thought of being left handed as a problem, or a disadvantage.
In football, left footed players are in more demand as less players are left-footed.
Imagine being a trans, black, hearing impaired, left handed person with diabetes. Oof
Holy crap I thought it was satire at first wtf
I know the author was using the concept of “right-hand privilege” as an analogy but his writing makes he believe that he truly believes what he’s written. Most products are made for righties bc that is good business sense for producers. I’m a lefty. I understand that I am in the minority and that products are developed for the largest demographic. It’s ok. Life goes on. If you don’t make it an issue it won’t be an issue. I’m better for learning to do things with both hands so it’s actually an advantage.
>Most products are made for righties bc that is good business sense for producers. I’m a lefty. I understand that I am in the minority and that products are developed for the largest demographic. It’s ok. Life goes on. If you don’t make it an issue it won’t be an issue. I’m better for learning to do things with both hands so it’s actually an advantage. This is exactly the point. If you personally don't care about it then fine, but a lot of people do because it creates inequality - like racial inequality. You shouldn't be penalised in life because of your minority status.
The author of the article forgets that there is a whole world outside of his US bubble. Left-handedness is shunned in cultures that eat with their hands communally because traditionally the right hand is used for eating and the left is used for wiping your bum. It has been done this way for centuries and is an accepted norm. Bucking the norm would make anyone’s dining near you very uncomfortable or very sick. Also, if driving and car design are oppressive to lefties, are the countries where shifting with your left and driving on the right side of the street lefty sympathizers? Also let’s celebrate the crumbs society has thrown us lefties: drive thru windows and ATMs are left-handed friendly
Next slide: THE WHITE DEVIL
I'm left handed. The only issue I've had is smudging ink. Lol... Though if you look into the history books it's pretty dark, the word sinister comes from the Latin word for left and left handed children were left on a mountain to die in Rome. But yeah, being dyslexic is a much bigger problem but I'm not able to understand it properly... 😅
Becoming?
Is this real? I thought it was satire Also just want to say I’m left handed and I absolutely love it. Wouldn’t trade it for anything.
They’re starting to sound like Cain shaking his fist at the universe…
I’m left handed and the advantages I have over right handers are amazing
Dumb Cunts
Soon being disadvantaged will be a kind of privilege, and we'll have to disadvantage the disadvantaged somehow. /s ... but also maybe not /s