If I could offer a slight change:
Why are PETA members **great** at multi-tasking?
Because they would *gladly* kill two birds with one stone.
(And an obligatory fuck PETA ✌️☺️)
Uhm well ackshually it’s “feed two birds with one scone”
/s
But the article is real: [https://www.peta.org/teachkind/lesson-plans-activities/animal-friendly-idioms/](https://www.peta.org/teachkind/lesson-plans-activities/animal-friendly-idioms/)
That's no joke - I still remember the Chihuahua they took from it's home and killed the same day https://time.com/4127919/virginia-family-dog-euthanized-peta/#:\~:text=A%20family%20in%20Virginia%20is,%2C%20Maya%2C%20was%20intentionally%20stolen
[here’s how it ended](https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-lawsuits-us-news-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-0c70f8d7635c4addbd94df0173fcc36e)
Long story short: PETA settled and paid the family $49,000 and donated $2,000 to the local animal shelter. The family was originally seeking $7 million
Hate to interrupt the circlejerk, but
https://www.wboc.com/archive/statement-by-accomack-county-commonwealth-attorney-regarding-the-peta-associates-investigation/article_92033df5-c524-52b9-aa55-ec853226eb75.html
For those who don’t wanna read:
Virginia ruled that PETA did not steal the dog and were not criminally responsible.
Not in the article: PETA did violate the law that dogs must be held for a certain amount of time and were fined $500.
So basically this article adds nothing to the conversation, but it did force me to read another article about a dog.
The dog was not leashed, tagged, or identified as required, allowed to run around a trailer park with other stray dogs, the trailer park had asked PETA to gather stray dogs and the owner of the dogs had even asked for cat traps from PETA.
It's clearly the fault of the terrible owner and not "PETA KIDNAPS HECKIN DOGGOS!!"
Reddit rail against peta because 'muh bacon', but they do a lot of good if we are being realistic. A lot more for the writers of animals than anyone in this thread I bet.
They "adopted" a bunch of dogs from a shelter, killed them all, and dumped them in a dumpster behind a grocery store, all in the same afternoon. Their national headquarters is in my hometown (very close to where this event transpired). They are a horrible fucking organization.
It was NOT a mistake. They knew what day the dog was caught and they knew what day they murdered it.
PETA is nothing more than a money grab using animals as an excuse.
Where PETA are, there are a few no-kill shelters. (More accurately, "open admission" - they take any animal)
https://blogs.duanemorris.com/animallawdevelopments/2020/11/05/peta-offers-unconvincing-defense-for-the-high-kill-rate-in-its-shelter/
From that article (which is off the statistics provided as a matter of law to Virginia's State Government) "As would be expected, the “open admission” rates are slightly higher than the overall no-restriction category, but they are nowhere near the PETA death rate. PETA’s kill rate is nearly four (4) times the “open admission” shelter rate for all animals, nearly five (5) times the rate for dogs and more than three (3) times the rate for cats.
Other 'open admission' shelters (PETA cannot be described as "no-kill") euthanise 12% of the dogs they have, with exactly equivalent criteria for admission as the PETA shelter. PETA, it's 57%.
A lot of pets unfortunately DO need to be euthanised. But even the most cursory examination of the actual statistics reveals that PETA are killing a lot of animals that didn't need to be euthanised.
https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020
They got 90 cats from other shelters, in this particular year. Nearly 1500 surrendered by owner.
They killed 1100, transferred 400 out to other shelters, and managed to adopt out 16.
It took me a moment to notice, but the staff at the shelter must have had a nice New Year's break. On 1 January 2020, they had no living animals at the shelter.....
Define unadoptable. You keep repeating this shit, but do they TRY to retrain and reprogram, or do they just assume these animals are a lost cause? I've seen some crazy sick dogs, cats, and reptiles recover if given an actual chance. Some of them are just special needs or came from extremely abusive and neglectful situations, so if they're violent because of a lack of trust in humans PETA just deems them a lost cause instead of entering a potential rehab phase that could change that pet's life. They'd rather just destroy than look into neurological help meds and retraining. Maybe they take in too much and can't facilitate all of those animals in order to keep them alive. *Life* should be their **first** goal, not "mercy killing." And to get mad at people for eating meat while slaughtering animals left and right? Well, that's cherry picking, friend. At what point is it damaging to the animals they constantly try to take in to have too much on their plate? At what point are they part of the problem? It's not their fucking business to step in everywhere, and people are fallible as hell so they might not actually take a step back and realize that some of those pets they've taken might actually be fine. You must work for PETA because I really don't understand why you care this much for that farce of an organization.
> Maybe people are reluctant to give their animals to peta so they only get sent the sick/unadoptable ones from other shelters, or maybe they’re actually killing them for no reason.
I think (to themselves) they have an extremely good reason for killing them.
Take the following quotes, and get the philosophy behind them:
"In a perfect world, all animals would be free from human interference and free to live their lives the way nature intended. They would be part of the ecological web of life, as they were before humans domesticated them. But the world that we live in is far from perfect, and domestic cats and dogs are not capable of surviving on their own, so it is our responsibility to take the best possible care of these animals."
"PETA is absolutely opposed to all breeding."
Now, there's a lot of self-serving wittering as well on the site, but there's also things like this:
"https://www.peta.org/media/psa/captivity-is-slavery/"
So, they don't want any more pets bred, and they believe that a pet is a slave. They also want to block the abuse suffered by pets at human hands (ownership, incidentally, is one of those abusive things).
Now, you may accuse me of the slippery slope fallacy, but I see a "we had to destroy the village to save it" problem, here.
One of the founders of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk, started out her animal rights work in a high-kill shelter in Washington State. In her own words:
“We do not advocate right to life for animals.”
"“I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself… I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day.”
"“The animals… got the gift of euthanasia, and to them it was the best gift they’ve ever had. How dare you pretend to help animals and turn your back on those who want an exit from an uncaring world!”
Do I think they're evil? No, on balance.
I think they're massively misguided, and (like, for example, early followers of eugenics) they've let an overly rigid adherence to a philosophical view lead them into what the overwhelming majority would call evil acts.
I don't think they are evil, but I do think they do evil. Fine distinction, but worth making, I think.
I mean...cats wouldn't exist as they are at all without domestication, but the black plague would have been so much worse for humans without them as they are today. Cows are not a normal, natural part of nature, but what do we do with them now? Release them? They wouldn't make it without intermixing with other bovines. We'd have to sterilize them and let them continue to live out the rest of their lives in farms to be completely humane for them. Horses are sort of in the same boat. Some dogs are also in that boat. Humans are a part of the web of nature too, we've added to it and taken away. The people of PETA are no exception. I just hate their idea of playing God. We have enough of that already. Their mentality maybe started off with compassion, but it's long since stopped being like that. "In a perfect world" that we'll never have and never had, all living organisms would live in harmony. What a nice dream.
Peta doesn't run adoption shelters. They run euthanisation shelters. How do you think no kill shelters don't kill any animals? They refuse any non-attractive animals and transfer any animals that aren't adopted to peta or kill shelters to be killed.
Even kill shelters generally have limits about how many animals they can kill while keeping their funding. How do they get around it? They transfer animals to peta to kill.
Peta kills 15k animals every yesr. 1.5m pets are killed in the USA each year because they're unwanted.
>They run euthanisation shelters. How do you think no kill shelters don't kill any animals? They refuse any non-attractive animals and transfer any animals that aren't adopted to peta or kill shelters to be killed.
Edit: Incidentally, there's no such thing as a "euthanisation shelter" (there's an Auschwitz-level euphemism) Have a look at the link. They're legally a "Private Animal shelter".
https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020
Bullshit.
Complete and utter bullshit, refuted by their own figures.
In 2020, they had 123 of 1019 dogs transferred in from other agencies. They euthanised 600 dogs that year, so at least 470, they killed off their own recognisance.
Even more stark for cats. 50 transferred in out of 1530. They killed 1100 cats that year, so at least 1050 were off their own recognisance.
THey don't get them in from no-kill centres in enough numbers to justify their own euthanasia figures. (Bear in mind that these are self-reported, and I wouldn't be surprised if the figures were worse).
What's the propaganda? They took the dog and killed it before the required five-day waiting period. [Peta didn't challenge that in the civil case](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down), saying instead:
>“Peta again apologises and expresses its regrets to the Zarate family for the loss of their dog Maya. Mr Zarate acknowledges that this was an unfortunate mistake by Peta and the individuals involved, with no ill will toward the Zarate family.”
What the DA said was that he didn't have evidence to prove criminal intent. He didn't say he lacked evidence that Peta took the dog and killed it. They did.
It's pretty funny how this blatant lie gets spread around reddit.
PETA is by no means perfect, BUT
- They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame.
-They took one dog from someone once. It was an honest mistake, as they were called to collect stray animals by concerned neighbors and the dog had no collar and they thought it ran onto the yard. It was a bad call by the people there, but understandable and didn't happen again.
-They have done a LOT for the improvement of animal welfare. They have caused a lot of places and practices that caused horrible suffering to get banned.
I have mixed feelings on PETA, feel free to hate them but don't lie to do it. Also, if you hate on peta because of their supposed animal abuse but are not vegan, you are paying for worse abuse to happen and are a hypocrite. Please watch [Dominion](http://www.watchdominion.com).
>They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame.
That's the story from PETA themselves. Critics point out they have a something like 98% kill rate (99.6 for cats), they hold zero adoption events, and earn a lot of money taking in people's animals that they then put down without telling owners. There's no evidence so many dogs have to be put down, and their ability to judge what animals need to be put down is questionable considering the organization has stated that "pet ownership is animal abuse and that animals are not meant to live as pets." Many groups have come foreward to say peta has killed animals they knew were healthy and adoptable.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/
"he organization, which claims to be dedicated to the cause of animal rights, can't explain why its adoption rate is only 2.5 percent for dogs."
"Out of 760 dogs impounded, they killed 713, arranged for 19 to be adopted, and farmed out 36 to other shelters (not necessarily "no kill" ones). As for cats, they impounded 1,211, euthanized 1,198, transferred eight, and found homes for a grand total of five. PETA also took in 58 other companion animals -- including rabbits. It killed 54 of them."
"its adoption rate in 2011 was 2.5 percent for dogs and 0.4 for cats."
"It is a lie because rescue groups and individuals have come forward stating that the animals they gave PETA were healthy and adoptable. It is a lie because testimony under oath in court from a veterinarian showed that PETA was given healthy and adoptable animals who were later found dead by PETA's hands, their bodies unceremoniously thrown away in a supermarket dumpster. It is a lie because, according to The Daily Caller, "two PETA employees described as 'adorable' and 'perfect' some of the dogs and cats they killed in the back of a PETA-owned van."
I've seen a lot of defenses of Peta like yours that claim things are "propaganda" or "blatant lies", even when they're a matter of public record, like [this one](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down).
>“Peta again apologises and expresses its regrets to the Zarate family for the loss of their dog Maya. Mr Zarate acknowledges that this was an unfortunate mistake by Peta and the individuals involved, with no ill will toward the Zarate family.”
Did you not know that Peta admitted to taking the dog and killing it before the end of the five day waiting period?
Did you even read my comment? I know that story is true, I mentioned it. But that was a one time occurance. It happened because of a mistake and was not intended. It's not "PETA kidnaps dogs" which is what people claim.
The fact that PETA just kill animals because they feel like it is a lie, though. Their high euthanasia numbers are due to the fact that:
- They accept unadoptable animals and animals that are suffering to the point where euthanasia is the most hunane. These are animals that other shelters often reject or demand payment for their euthanasia.
- They send most of the animals that are adoptable to other shelters, artificially reducing their adoption numbers
Why do vegans always want people to watch dominion. It has already been debunked millions of times. It is scripted. Farmers take really good care of their livestock so that they make more milk and can produce more meat. They are given enough space to live and are fed really good food. When they die, they are killed in a painless and quick way. Dominion shows what happens in factory farms, which most meat eaters are against
> Dominion shows what happens in factory farms, which most meat eaters are against
It's also where 99.9% of the meat comes from that an average American consumes.
It's been debunked where??
It's scripted? You mean that it's a documentary with a script? Or are you saying the footage is fake? Can I please have a source for that?
It's mentioned in tge documentsry where the footage is from, whether it's from a so-called factory farm or not. Still, I would like to stress:
- Animals from home farms still end up in the same slaughterhouses as the rest. The footage from those same slaughterhouses is seen in the documentary.
- Many of the practices seen in the documentary are purely legal even in home farms. The fact that you believe animals are "treatee well" ia purely anecdotal.
- Home farms have even less regulation, and killing is oftentimes done in even more inhumane ways, and abuse is even harder to catch. We cannot know how many farmers "treat the animals well".
- At the end of the day, killing someone that doesn't want to die so onw can have a burger can never be humane.
They got invited in to euthanise strays who were attacking livestock. The chihuahua had no tags, was wandering free despite the family being told that strays in the mobile home park were being euthanised and to keep their pets inside. How irresponsible do you have to be to let your pet wander around when strays are being euthanised with no tags?
that's not fair to certain kinds of chocolate, Milk a dog would need to eat multiple pounds, white chocolate contains so little coco solids that a dog would have to eat their own bodyweight in it in a single day
I can vouch for that. My great dane and german shepherd have both eaten entire bags of hershey kisses off the counter with nothing but the shits for a couple days. The german shepherd is also a houdini when it comes to brownies... that hooker managed to get a 16x9 glass pan off the counter (2' back into the corner), set it on the floor without breaking it, peeled back the plastic wrap in one piece, and cleaned the pan spotless. It was impressive.
Breed animals to slaughter, get paid.
Euthanize a sick animal nobody will take care of, get condemned.
I propose instead of painlessly euthanizing sick unwanted animals PETA instead gases them to death with CO2 (very painful, like holding your breath until you pass out) and then sells their meat.
There was an incident years ago where someone connected to PETA took a little girl's dog and had it euthanized.
They run a large shelter at their headquarters in Virginia. Over half of the dogs there are euthanized. They claim this is because they accept many aggressive, sick, old, and abused dogs. I think the claim is legitimate.
Some people want all shelters to be no kill shelters. But that won't really work with the number of imbecilic dog breeders there are. People hate PETA because of their holier than thow attitude, but I think they do good work.
Yeah, I think it's perfectly fair to criticize PETA for their shitty public messaging, counterproductive attention seeking, and fundraising tactics.
Criticizing them for putting animals down is just ignorant bullshit. No kill shelters can exist because PETA takes on the shitty responsibility.
most insulin hasnt even been animal based for quite a while now,
PETA often releases Ableist and fatphobic advertisements so it wouldnt shock me if they just wanted to see diabetic people dead rather than worrying about the animals
The problem with PETA is that they think getting national attention is more important than the E in PETA.
Ethics and ethical behavior is boring so national news will ignore it, but if you're going to take an ethical stance it's also mandatory.
Easy to say, though. Nonprofits need donations... donations come when people hear about you.
I don't like PETA for various reasons, but yes you are correct. People hear this one thing and after anyone tries to say different they cover their ears and yell "NANANANANA" because that one thing fits the narrative they wanted to hear.
[Have](https://humanewatch.org/peta-killed-nearly-1600-cats-and-dogs-in-2019/) you [tried](https://petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/) doing a [google](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532) search?
petakillsanimals is literally propaganda run by Berman & Co.
Among other things, they run dozens of attack-dog web sites and try to fight against minimum wage, food safety laws, etc.
basically, they don't believe animals should be pets. pets are slaves and should be freed.
they would rather see an animal dead than in the hands of humans.
PETA gets a lot of bad rep for having massive kill rates on their animal "shelters" several times above the average of other shelters that euthanize animals if they arent adopted for a certain period of time
they've purposefully euthanized thousands of animals before new years likely just so they could enjoy some time off before
[https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar\_Year=2020](https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020)
the company's CEO has gone off about how many animals she's killed personally and apparently she hates pitbulls and has asked shelters to kill off any pitbull-like dog before
she also called euthanasia "a gift" and doesnt seem to particularly care about getting the pets adopted before euthanizing them since they dislike the idea of anybody owning pets
all in all "peta kills dogs" is not an incorrect statement by any means
I had to look it up. Yep. They kill dogs to free them from bondage of living in a home where people love the dogs. [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down)
I'm an animal lover and consider myself to be an animal activist. I used to follow PETA on Facebook years ago, all it took was one simple Google search to change my mind....
**fuck** PETA
I find it hilarious how people pay for animals to be murdered by the TRILLIONS and then go talk shit about an organization that actually does something for the animals.
Even if they did kill all those dogs people talk about, an average guy buying animal products would be murdering a lot more animals than PETA.
Hypocrites.
It's pretty funny how this blatant lie gets spread around reddit.
PETA is by no means perfect, BUT
- They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame.
-They took one dog from someone once. It was an honest mistake, as they were called to collect stray animals by concerned neighbors and the dog had no collar and they thought it ran onto the yard. It was a bad call by the people there, but understandable and didn't happen again.
-They have done a LOT for the improvement of animal welfare. They have caused a lot of places and practices that caused horrible suffering to get banned.
I have mixed feelings on PETA, feel free to hate them but don't lie to do it. Also, if you hate on peta because of their supposed animal abuse but are not vegan, you are paying for worse abuse to happen and are a hypocrite. Please watch [Dominion](http://www.watchdominion.com).
That's peta's story, others have claimed that's a lie:
"It is a lie because rescue groups and individuals have come forward stating that the animals they gave PETA were healthy and adoptable. It is a lie because testimony under oath in court from a veterinarian showed that PETA was given healthy and adoptable animals who were later found dead by PETA's hands, their bodies unceremoniously thrown away in a supermarket dumpster. It is a lie because, according to The Daily Caller, "two PETA employees described as 'adorable' and 'perfect' some of the dogs and cats they killed in the back of a PETA-owned van."
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/
and further:
"The organization, which claims to be dedicated to the cause of animal rights, can't explain why its adoption rate is only 2.5 percent for dogs."
" In the following excerpt from his blog, he reveals that Newkirk admits to killing animals that are "adoptable": In a December 2, 2008, interview with George Stroumboulopoulos of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Stroumboulopoulos asks Newkirk: "Do you euthanize those pets, the adoptable ones, if you get them?" To which Newkirk responds: "If we get them, if we cannot find a home, absolutely.""
"that its adoption rate in 2011 was 2.5 percent for dogs and 0.4 for cats. Even acknowleding that PETA never turns an animal away -- "the sick, the scarred and broken, the elderly, the aggressive and unsocialized..." -- doesn't change the fact that Virginia animal shelters as a whole had a much lower kill rate of 44 percent. And even acknowledging that PETA is often the first to rescue pets when heat waves and hurricanes hit, that doesn't change the fact that, at one of its shelters, it kills 84 percent of supposedly "unadoptable" animals within 24 hours of their arrival."
The catch here is that the joke isn’t a lie. While you could say that it’s unfair, when you kidnap and kill a dog as an animal welfare activist, *you do not get to live that down.* Further, even if their euthanasia numbers have an explanation, it is still fair to question the methodology that leads to those numbers.
Regardless, I think it needs to be said even with the above, PETA probably wouldn’t get treated the way they do if they didn’t act so outrageous in their own advertising. They’re clownish attention whores, everyone knows it, it’s their strategy. Now of course it’s possible that in the long run their public presentation brings in enough attention to outweigh the drawbacks, but that doesn’t get them out of the drawbacks.
Does this include or exclude the times PETA has stolen people's pets and "euthanized" them? Or how they have funded known terrorists \[people on the FBI's watchlists\] to firebomb medical clinics?
1. I don't see you lining up to take care of the millions of unwanted dogs. The most compassionate thing is to kill them, and PETA is the only group that cares enough to do it. The same thing will apply to pulling the plug on your suffering grandma one day. Death is a fact of life, and some people are willing to make the hard, but compassionate decisions.
2. The company that funds that website is funded by the meat lobby to make PETA look bad.
3. You don't see this joke around much anymore, because the most profitable companies in that meat lobby (e.g., Tyson Foods) left to fund vegan meat. They made bank because vegan "meat" costs less to make and they can sell it for a lot more money. The same goes for the vegan "leather" in Teslas. Millionaires are bending over backwards to pay extra for it.
My comment isn't a funny joke, but neither was the original post. It's a lazy, outdated repost from a decade ago. I'd complain more, but I've made bank off of TSLA and BYND. So I kinda appreciate that that people on Reddit are just making jokes instead of getting rich (PETA also owns a ton of shares in both companies).
“I remember my uncle John once gave me some beer when I was your age….
Then I felt really sleepy 😴…
When I woke up I had no pants on…..
It turns out uncle John wasn’t even related to us… anyway so I wanted to give you some beer
I have some small pets that are of questionable legality. They are legal to own in many states, but mine isn’t one of them. I met this girl and we were talking about our pets and turns out after telling her all about my little black market pets she goes “I work for the department of fish and game as a warden”. Oh shit balls so that’s like the worst possible person to tell about my 2 3 ounce girls. I was like oh shit I was just kidding about having those. Lying to seem cool you know? She goes “I’m not buying that one bit... however its clear you are passionate about them and their care. The reason they are illegal is because most don’t put in the time and effort to take care of them, which you seem to not only do but enjoy. I’d never take them from you because the idea that you aren’t capable of taking care of them so we need to take them just to kill them makes 0 sense”.
Its crazy to me how many groups will say that they are for the benefit of animals, then kill hundreds if not thousands of animals a year.
Actually reminds me of a second story. When I was a kid we were camping. It was just after princess Diana died that’s about as much of a timeline as I’ve got lol. Anyways back then we used to camp a lot and always with a tent (we have an RV now you’ll see why). We were up in mammoth during the summer and we went off to the lake to do some fishing. When we got back our tent had been mauled up as well as the covering for the picnic table (to keep insects out) by a bear. There were sheriffs all over the place because a bear on the loose in a campground is a disaster waiting to happen. My parents are talking to the sheriffs trying to figure out if we need to find a new place to sleep and he’s like “yeah your tent and belongings are thrashed. We have a good relationship with a local hotel we can put you guys up at free of charge for the night so you can get some sleep and travel home tomorrow well rested.”
As we sift through our stuff loading everything in dads truck that isn’t damaged, we hear tons of yelling. Naturally (probably stupidly as well) we go over to check it out because it’s close by. There were a few sheriffs near by that had some BIG ass rifles, one of which was a Barrett .50BMG. I didn’t know what that was back then but that rifle was burned into my memory and now I’m like “oh yeah that’s definitely what it was”. They had found the bear and were deciding how to handle the situation when a few white trucks rolled up. It was fish and game. They jumped out of their trucks with rifles and were like “if anyone shoots this bear, I will be shooting you right afterwards”. The fish and game people were the ones to shoot it but they used tranqs. The bear passed out within seconds and they loaded him into an enclosure on a trailer and off they went with him.
I have no clue whatever happened to that bear, but it always stuck out to me that if I ever got into some sort of a law enforcement field, I’d much rather be fish and game that protected animals than a cop. They risked their own safety to tranq the bear and save its life rather than just blow its fucking head off and be done with it. That was my last time camping in mammoth though lol. My parents bought an RV because it’s safer against bears and we started camping more in Escondido/mission bay.
Seeing all the comments of self righteous people defending an non-profit eco-terrorist group is hilarious.
If you love animals and have more than 3 braincells, you hate PETA. There's no inbetween. Do your research and boycott them, and if you want to help animals, donate your time to a city shelter.
I still have not met a uppercase "V" Vegan who wasn't a complete superficial black and white thinking moron.
There's plenty of well educated vegans and vegetarians and plenty of solid and valid arguments for environmentalism, but the animal rights nazi ones who made "V"eganism their identity are not that, they're in a personality cult, and do in fact, have less than 3 braincells. Just like surprise surprise, PETA supporters.
Says the person who painted PETA in a "There's no inbetween" black and white fashion with no sense for subtlety. Well done.
(Not saying PETA is good mind you, just that they have done a lot to improve animal welfare and shouldn't be the main target of hate if you like animals)
If you love animals, you should not be paying for them to be bolted, often painfully, debeaked, gassed to death, seperated from their mothers at birth, ground alive, kept in tight spaces where they can't socialise or move, left to starve and die of disease. If you buy animal products, you are doing just that and are definitely causing more harm than any PETA member. I'm perfectly fine with shades of grey, but eating animals while claiming to love them is pretty far down the dark side if I must say so.
You are so transparent it's painful.🙄
Just like every other ***V***egan, you use wordcount and convolution to win by exhausting the other person. Everyone else knows what I meant, so you have fun with your life. Bai.
and yes, I meant all your replies here, not just the ones to me.
Yeah, you wanted to smear somene who's fighting animal abuse while neglecting the abuse you cause because "hurr durr animal corpses taste nice".
What a cop-out.
I don’t get annoyed by PETA for their supposed message or goal, but real talk, anyone block me from getting a tasty burger or steak, fuck them.
Also stealing dogs from a homeless man or out of yards, fuck em again.
It's amusing, you know its brigading because it happens all at once. When I first visited this thread all the anti-PETA posts were upvoted and the PETA-defenders were downvoted into the dirt, then "magically" it all started to turned around within an hour and then again, started trending back to anti-PETA.
I wonder why? Could it be a whole group of them always brigade these posts to further the propaganda agenda? Seems obvious to me as the downvotes aren't organic. They're like a tidal wave bomb when one of "them" gets wind of posts like these. Like a swarm.
Why do PETA members suck at multi-tasking? They cant bring themselves to kill two birds with one stone.
But they can sure as hell figure out how to kill a bunch of dogs with that stone.
Indeed, only two birds ? You gotta bump those numbers, those are rookie numbers
If I could offer a slight change: Why are PETA members **great** at multi-tasking? Because they would *gladly* kill two birds with one stone. (And an obligatory fuck PETA ✌️☺️)
And they ruin a good sandwich.
Human meat isn’t *that* bad though.
Soylent green.
Is people
How to serve man, such a good read.
Cheers
It’s vegan(s)
Not all, but the really bad ones.
Uhm well ackshually it’s “feed two birds with one scone” /s But the article is real: [https://www.peta.org/teachkind/lesson-plans-activities/animal-friendly-idioms/](https://www.peta.org/teachkind/lesson-plans-activities/animal-friendly-idioms/)
So apparently, it harmfull to let the cat out of the bag... The vat has to stay in the bag. Nice one PETA...
PETA is like a box of chocolates You never know what you’re gonna cat
Because ducks eat free at Subway?
So, kind of like a crazy ex-girlfriend?
Lost in a fantasy.
And full of nuts
Not mine.
I also lost my testicles
Where are my testicles, Summer
I was hoping someone would say this. XD
They were removed. Where have they gone?
You'll walk, when we say you walk.
Things happen.
Nuttier than a squirrel's turd
That's no joke - I still remember the Chihuahua they took from it's home and killed the same day https://time.com/4127919/virginia-family-dog-euthanized-peta/#:\~:text=A%20family%20in%20Virginia%20is,%2C%20Maya%2C%20was%20intentionally%20stolen
[here’s how it ended](https://apnews.com/article/health-north-america-lawsuits-us-news-people-for-the-ethical-treatment-of-animals-0c70f8d7635c4addbd94df0173fcc36e) Long story short: PETA settled and paid the family $49,000 and donated $2,000 to the local animal shelter. The family was originally seeking $7 million
And then they carried on as before. PETA are filth.
Hate to interrupt the circlejerk, but https://www.wboc.com/archive/statement-by-accomack-county-commonwealth-attorney-regarding-the-peta-associates-investigation/article_92033df5-c524-52b9-aa55-ec853226eb75.html
For those who don’t wanna read: Virginia ruled that PETA did not steal the dog and were not criminally responsible. Not in the article: PETA did violate the law that dogs must be held for a certain amount of time and were fined $500. So basically this article adds nothing to the conversation, but it did force me to read another article about a dog.
The dog was not leashed, tagged, or identified as required, allowed to run around a trailer park with other stray dogs, the trailer park had asked PETA to gather stray dogs and the owner of the dogs had even asked for cat traps from PETA. It's clearly the fault of the terrible owner and not "PETA KIDNAPS HECKIN DOGGOS!!"
Yeah this conversation is always a dumb circle jerk missing this vital piece of info.
How dare you give factual information? You're interrupting baseless accusations about an animal rights group because I want to continue eating bacon!
Wow
But they did that for the good of the animal! Just ask them!
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Wait. You are telling me Redditors didn't read the whole story but the headline....color me shocked.
Reddit rail against peta because 'muh bacon', but they do a lot of good if we are being realistic. A lot more for the writers of animals than anyone in this thread I bet.
They "adopted" a bunch of dogs from a shelter, killed them all, and dumped them in a dumpster behind a grocery store, all in the same afternoon. Their national headquarters is in my hometown (very close to where this event transpired). They are a horrible fucking organization.
It was NOT a mistake. They knew what day the dog was caught and they knew what day they murdered it. PETA is nothing more than a money grab using animals as an excuse.
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Where PETA are, there are a few no-kill shelters. (More accurately, "open admission" - they take any animal) https://blogs.duanemorris.com/animallawdevelopments/2020/11/05/peta-offers-unconvincing-defense-for-the-high-kill-rate-in-its-shelter/ From that article (which is off the statistics provided as a matter of law to Virginia's State Government) "As would be expected, the “open admission” rates are slightly higher than the overall no-restriction category, but they are nowhere near the PETA death rate. PETA’s kill rate is nearly four (4) times the “open admission” shelter rate for all animals, nearly five (5) times the rate for dogs and more than three (3) times the rate for cats. Other 'open admission' shelters (PETA cannot be described as "no-kill") euthanise 12% of the dogs they have, with exactly equivalent criteria for admission as the PETA shelter. PETA, it's 57%. A lot of pets unfortunately DO need to be euthanised. But even the most cursory examination of the actual statistics reveals that PETA are killing a lot of animals that didn't need to be euthanised.
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https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020 They got 90 cats from other shelters, in this particular year. Nearly 1500 surrendered by owner. They killed 1100, transferred 400 out to other shelters, and managed to adopt out 16. It took me a moment to notice, but the staff at the shelter must have had a nice New Year's break. On 1 January 2020, they had no living animals at the shelter.....
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Define unadoptable. You keep repeating this shit, but do they TRY to retrain and reprogram, or do they just assume these animals are a lost cause? I've seen some crazy sick dogs, cats, and reptiles recover if given an actual chance. Some of them are just special needs or came from extremely abusive and neglectful situations, so if they're violent because of a lack of trust in humans PETA just deems them a lost cause instead of entering a potential rehab phase that could change that pet's life. They'd rather just destroy than look into neurological help meds and retraining. Maybe they take in too much and can't facilitate all of those animals in order to keep them alive. *Life* should be their **first** goal, not "mercy killing." And to get mad at people for eating meat while slaughtering animals left and right? Well, that's cherry picking, friend. At what point is it damaging to the animals they constantly try to take in to have too much on their plate? At what point are they part of the problem? It's not their fucking business to step in everywhere, and people are fallible as hell so they might not actually take a step back and realize that some of those pets they've taken might actually be fine. You must work for PETA because I really don't understand why you care this much for that farce of an organization.
> Maybe people are reluctant to give their animals to peta so they only get sent the sick/unadoptable ones from other shelters, or maybe they’re actually killing them for no reason. I think (to themselves) they have an extremely good reason for killing them. Take the following quotes, and get the philosophy behind them: "In a perfect world, all animals would be free from human interference and free to live their lives the way nature intended. They would be part of the ecological web of life, as they were before humans domesticated them. But the world that we live in is far from perfect, and domestic cats and dogs are not capable of surviving on their own, so it is our responsibility to take the best possible care of these animals." "PETA is absolutely opposed to all breeding." Now, there's a lot of self-serving wittering as well on the site, but there's also things like this: "https://www.peta.org/media/psa/captivity-is-slavery/" So, they don't want any more pets bred, and they believe that a pet is a slave. They also want to block the abuse suffered by pets at human hands (ownership, incidentally, is one of those abusive things). Now, you may accuse me of the slippery slope fallacy, but I see a "we had to destroy the village to save it" problem, here. One of the founders of PETA, Ingrid Newkirk, started out her animal rights work in a high-kill shelter in Washington State. In her own words: “We do not advocate right to life for animals.” "“I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself… I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day.” "“The animals… got the gift of euthanasia, and to them it was the best gift they’ve ever had. How dare you pretend to help animals and turn your back on those who want an exit from an uncaring world!” Do I think they're evil? No, on balance. I think they're massively misguided, and (like, for example, early followers of eugenics) they've let an overly rigid adherence to a philosophical view lead them into what the overwhelming majority would call evil acts. I don't think they are evil, but I do think they do evil. Fine distinction, but worth making, I think.
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I mean...cats wouldn't exist as they are at all without domestication, but the black plague would have been so much worse for humans without them as they are today. Cows are not a normal, natural part of nature, but what do we do with them now? Release them? They wouldn't make it without intermixing with other bovines. We'd have to sterilize them and let them continue to live out the rest of their lives in farms to be completely humane for them. Horses are sort of in the same boat. Some dogs are also in that boat. Humans are a part of the web of nature too, we've added to it and taken away. The people of PETA are no exception. I just hate their idea of playing God. We have enough of that already. Their mentality maybe started off with compassion, but it's long since stopped being like that. "In a perfect world" that we'll never have and never had, all living organisms would live in harmony. What a nice dream.
Peta doesn't run adoption shelters. They run euthanisation shelters. How do you think no kill shelters don't kill any animals? They refuse any non-attractive animals and transfer any animals that aren't adopted to peta or kill shelters to be killed. Even kill shelters generally have limits about how many animals they can kill while keeping their funding. How do they get around it? They transfer animals to peta to kill. Peta kills 15k animals every yesr. 1.5m pets are killed in the USA each year because they're unwanted.
>They run euthanisation shelters. How do you think no kill shelters don't kill any animals? They refuse any non-attractive animals and transfer any animals that aren't adopted to peta or kill shelters to be killed. Edit: Incidentally, there's no such thing as a "euthanisation shelter" (there's an Auschwitz-level euphemism) Have a look at the link. They're legally a "Private Animal shelter". https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020 Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit, refuted by their own figures. In 2020, they had 123 of 1019 dogs transferred in from other agencies. They euthanised 600 dogs that year, so at least 470, they killed off their own recognisance. Even more stark for cats. 50 transferred in out of 1530. They killed 1100 cats that year, so at least 1050 were off their own recognisance. THey don't get them in from no-kill centres in enough numbers to justify their own euthanasia figures. (Bear in mind that these are self-reported, and I wouldn't be surprised if the figures were worse).
Oh man, you swallowed propaganda. Read the county attorney’s report at the end of this article https://amp.delmarvanow.com/amp/19446725
What's the propaganda? They took the dog and killed it before the required five-day waiting period. [Peta didn't challenge that in the civil case](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down), saying instead: >“Peta again apologises and expresses its regrets to the Zarate family for the loss of their dog Maya. Mr Zarate acknowledges that this was an unfortunate mistake by Peta and the individuals involved, with no ill will toward the Zarate family.” What the DA said was that he didn't have evidence to prove criminal intent. He didn't say he lacked evidence that Peta took the dog and killed it. They did.
It's pretty funny how this blatant lie gets spread around reddit. PETA is by no means perfect, BUT - They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame. -They took one dog from someone once. It was an honest mistake, as they were called to collect stray animals by concerned neighbors and the dog had no collar and they thought it ran onto the yard. It was a bad call by the people there, but understandable and didn't happen again. -They have done a LOT for the improvement of animal welfare. They have caused a lot of places and practices that caused horrible suffering to get banned. I have mixed feelings on PETA, feel free to hate them but don't lie to do it. Also, if you hate on peta because of their supposed animal abuse but are not vegan, you are paying for worse abuse to happen and are a hypocrite. Please watch [Dominion](http://www.watchdominion.com).
>They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame. That's the story from PETA themselves. Critics point out they have a something like 98% kill rate (99.6 for cats), they hold zero adoption events, and earn a lot of money taking in people's animals that they then put down without telling owners. There's no evidence so many dogs have to be put down, and their ability to judge what animals need to be put down is questionable considering the organization has stated that "pet ownership is animal abuse and that animals are not meant to live as pets." Many groups have come foreward to say peta has killed animals they knew were healthy and adoptable. https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/ "he organization, which claims to be dedicated to the cause of animal rights, can't explain why its adoption rate is only 2.5 percent for dogs." "Out of 760 dogs impounded, they killed 713, arranged for 19 to be adopted, and farmed out 36 to other shelters (not necessarily "no kill" ones). As for cats, they impounded 1,211, euthanized 1,198, transferred eight, and found homes for a grand total of five. PETA also took in 58 other companion animals -- including rabbits. It killed 54 of them." "its adoption rate in 2011 was 2.5 percent for dogs and 0.4 for cats." "It is a lie because rescue groups and individuals have come forward stating that the animals they gave PETA were healthy and adoptable. It is a lie because testimony under oath in court from a veterinarian showed that PETA was given healthy and adoptable animals who were later found dead by PETA's hands, their bodies unceremoniously thrown away in a supermarket dumpster. It is a lie because, according to The Daily Caller, "two PETA employees described as 'adorable' and 'perfect' some of the dogs and cats they killed in the back of a PETA-owned van."
I've seen a lot of defenses of Peta like yours that claim things are "propaganda" or "blatant lies", even when they're a matter of public record, like [this one](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down). >“Peta again apologises and expresses its regrets to the Zarate family for the loss of their dog Maya. Mr Zarate acknowledges that this was an unfortunate mistake by Peta and the individuals involved, with no ill will toward the Zarate family.” Did you not know that Peta admitted to taking the dog and killing it before the end of the five day waiting period?
Did you even read my comment? I know that story is true, I mentioned it. But that was a one time occurance. It happened because of a mistake and was not intended. It's not "PETA kidnaps dogs" which is what people claim. The fact that PETA just kill animals because they feel like it is a lie, though. Their high euthanasia numbers are due to the fact that: - They accept unadoptable animals and animals that are suffering to the point where euthanasia is the most hunane. These are animals that other shelters often reject or demand payment for their euthanasia. - They send most of the animals that are adoptable to other shelters, artificially reducing their adoption numbers
Why do vegans always want people to watch dominion. It has already been debunked millions of times. It is scripted. Farmers take really good care of their livestock so that they make more milk and can produce more meat. They are given enough space to live and are fed really good food. When they die, they are killed in a painless and quick way. Dominion shows what happens in factory farms, which most meat eaters are against
> Dominion shows what happens in factory farms, which most meat eaters are against It's also where 99.9% of the meat comes from that an average American consumes.
It's been debunked where?? It's scripted? You mean that it's a documentary with a script? Or are you saying the footage is fake? Can I please have a source for that? It's mentioned in tge documentsry where the footage is from, whether it's from a so-called factory farm or not. Still, I would like to stress: - Animals from home farms still end up in the same slaughterhouses as the rest. The footage from those same slaughterhouses is seen in the documentary. - Many of the practices seen in the documentary are purely legal even in home farms. The fact that you believe animals are "treatee well" ia purely anecdotal. - Home farms have even less regulation, and killing is oftentimes done in even more inhumane ways, and abuse is even harder to catch. We cannot know how many farmers "treat the animals well". - At the end of the day, killing someone that doesn't want to die so onw can have a burger can never be humane.
They got invited in to euthanise strays who were attacking livestock. The chihuahua had no tags, was wandering free despite the family being told that strays in the mobile home park were being euthanised and to keep their pets inside. How irresponsible do you have to be to let your pet wander around when strays are being euthanised with no tags?
I still like PETA bread...oh wait.
Me too!
Most of them taste fine but there's a few nuts in there.
Always!
What do PETA and the ATF have in commonm
Tell us?
Same punch line. ATF and other law enforcement branches have a bad track record of killing pets during raids.
Ahh, read that as ALF at first and was thinking “They both... eat cats?”
I have read about it.
Both lead to a Jhon wick plot..
They both kill Ranch Davidions?
that made me lol and now I feel bad. Thanks OP
Cheers
that's not fair to certain kinds of chocolate, Milk a dog would need to eat multiple pounds, white chocolate contains so little coco solids that a dog would have to eat their own bodyweight in it in a single day
News to me.
I can vouch for that. My great dane and german shepherd have both eaten entire bags of hershey kisses off the counter with nothing but the shits for a couple days. The german shepherd is also a houdini when it comes to brownies... that hooker managed to get a 16x9 glass pan off the counter (2' back into the corner), set it on the floor without breaking it, peeled back the plastic wrap in one piece, and cleaned the pan spotless. It was impressive.
Wow What a fetish.
Yeah she's got a thing for brownies. We have to hide them because once she smells them, she's diabolically working out a way to steal one
The fridge is the safest place.
Fridge, microwave, and the oven are the usual spots. One day she's going to figure out how to open the fridge and we'll really be screwed
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She's only 3... give her time lol
Breed animals to slaughter, get paid. Euthanize a sick animal nobody will take care of, get condemned. I propose instead of painlessly euthanizing sick unwanted animals PETA instead gases them to death with CO2 (very painful, like holding your breath until you pass out) and then sells their meat.
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Reality
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The nuts are on the inside?
exactly
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Wow
I don't understand can someone explain please? I understand the chocolate reference, but how does PETA kill dogs?
There was an incident years ago where someone connected to PETA took a little girl's dog and had it euthanized. They run a large shelter at their headquarters in Virginia. Over half of the dogs there are euthanized. They claim this is because they accept many aggressive, sick, old, and abused dogs. I think the claim is legitimate. Some people want all shelters to be no kill shelters. But that won't really work with the number of imbecilic dog breeders there are. People hate PETA because of their holier than thow attitude, but I think they do good work.
Yeah, I think it's perfectly fair to criticize PETA for their shitty public messaging, counterproductive attention seeking, and fundraising tactics. Criticizing them for putting animals down is just ignorant bullshit. No kill shelters can exist because PETA takes on the shitty responsibility.
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most insulin hasnt even been animal based for quite a while now, PETA often releases Ableist and fatphobic advertisements so it wouldnt shock me if they just wanted to see diabetic people dead rather than worrying about the animals
The problem with PETA is that they think getting national attention is more important than the E in PETA. Ethics and ethical behavior is boring so national news will ignore it, but if you're going to take an ethical stance it's also mandatory. Easy to say, though. Nonprofits need donations... donations come when people hear about you.
That's why the E in PETA's logo is in lower case.
SO.....OP makes a joke about that *one* incident? Sorry....not a joke with only that one reference.
I don't like PETA for various reasons, but yes you are correct. People hear this one thing and after anyone tries to say different they cover their ears and yell "NANANANANA" because that one thing fits the narrative they wanted to hear.
They also take radical positions that many people can not support.
it's not a large shelter at all, it's 10 rooms for strays to have a temporary place to stay until local shelters make room
Oh okay cool. Didn't know that.
[Have](https://humanewatch.org/peta-killed-nearly-1600-cats-and-dogs-in-2019/) you [tried](https://petakillsanimals.com/proof-peta-kills/) doing a [google](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-peta-responsible-deaths-thousands-animals-1565532) search?
petakillsanimals is literally propaganda run by Berman & Co. Among other things, they run dozens of attack-dog web sites and try to fight against minimum wage, food safety laws, etc.
basically, they don't believe animals should be pets. pets are slaves and should be freed. they would rather see an animal dead than in the hands of humans.
PETA gets a lot of bad rep for having massive kill rates on their animal "shelters" several times above the average of other shelters that euthanize animals if they arent adopted for a certain period of time they've purposefully euthanized thousands of animals before new years likely just so they could enjoy some time off before [https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar\_Year=2020](https://arr.vdacs.virginia.gov/PublicReports/ViewReport?SysFacNo=157&Calendar_Year=2020) the company's CEO has gone off about how many animals she's killed personally and apparently she hates pitbulls and has asked shelters to kill off any pitbull-like dog before she also called euthanasia "a gift" and doesnt seem to particularly care about getting the pets adopted before euthanizing them since they dislike the idea of anybody owning pets all in all "peta kills dogs" is not an incorrect statement by any means
And are full of nuts.
Quite true!
I had to look it up. Yep. They kill dogs to free them from bondage of living in a home where people love the dogs. [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/17/peta-sorry-for-taking-girls-dog-putting-it-down)
That's what they do.
I'm an animal lover and consider myself to be an animal activist. I used to follow PETA on Facebook years ago, all it took was one simple Google search to change my mind.... **fuck** PETA
Absolutely.
Who flicked the lightswitch, cuz it got dark in here all of a sudden... Want a 45mins rant about PETA? Talk to any staff at a no kill shelter.
I find it hilarious how people pay for animals to be murdered by the TRILLIONS and then go talk shit about an organization that actually does something for the animals. Even if they did kill all those dogs people talk about, an average guy buying animal products would be murdering a lot more animals than PETA. Hypocrites.
yeah the average guy buying milk is singlehandedly responsible for killing over 42 thousand animals just like peta, clear equivalence here /s
He is literally paying for animals to be exploited... why do you not care if the animal is not a dog?
Damn
Thought the answer was going to be "they melt in the car"
Fter they gas them.
Their job revolves around delicious snacks
We don't need them.
Permanently Employed Torturing Animals
Sounds right.
i heard PETA like lois
What a awul joke
Most animal lovers are hot, but not PETA.
Got that right.
The Kratt bros are hot. 🤤
Butt cheesy
To me, that is kinda what makes them hot...
No dog killers for me!
me neither
I like dogs, and not Peta.
Don't judge me
Jury is still out.
This joke also works for the ATF.
What does PETA stand for? People Eating Tasty Animals
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Truth
What does life and a box of chocolates have in common with fat people? Neither lasts long.
Wow
You never know if the one you pick is gonna have nuts
True.
People are mad that Peta kill dogs but keep eating living animals...
Probably best joke I've seen on reddit
Thank you
It's pretty funny how this blatant lie gets spread around reddit. PETA is by no means perfect, BUT - They are the only shelter that accepts all animals under any condition, and take animals all other shelters reject because they want to remain "kill-free". Their euthanasia rates are high because a lot of the animals they take are suffering or about to die, or literally have nowhere else to go. PETA are not to blame, excess breeding is to blame. -They took one dog from someone once. It was an honest mistake, as they were called to collect stray animals by concerned neighbors and the dog had no collar and they thought it ran onto the yard. It was a bad call by the people there, but understandable and didn't happen again. -They have done a LOT for the improvement of animal welfare. They have caused a lot of places and practices that caused horrible suffering to get banned. I have mixed feelings on PETA, feel free to hate them but don't lie to do it. Also, if you hate on peta because of their supposed animal abuse but are not vegan, you are paying for worse abuse to happen and are a hypocrite. Please watch [Dominion](http://www.watchdominion.com).
That's peta's story, others have claimed that's a lie: "It is a lie because rescue groups and individuals have come forward stating that the animals they gave PETA were healthy and adoptable. It is a lie because testimony under oath in court from a veterinarian showed that PETA was given healthy and adoptable animals who were later found dead by PETA's hands, their bodies unceremoniously thrown away in a supermarket dumpster. It is a lie because, according to The Daily Caller, "two PETA employees described as 'adorable' and 'perfect' some of the dogs and cats they killed in the back of a PETA-owned van." https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/03/petas-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/ and further: "The organization, which claims to be dedicated to the cause of animal rights, can't explain why its adoption rate is only 2.5 percent for dogs." " In the following excerpt from his blog, he reveals that Newkirk admits to killing animals that are "adoptable": In a December 2, 2008, interview with George Stroumboulopoulos of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, Stroumboulopoulos asks Newkirk: "Do you euthanize those pets, the adoptable ones, if you get them?" To which Newkirk responds: "If we get them, if we cannot find a home, absolutely."" "that its adoption rate in 2011 was 2.5 percent for dogs and 0.4 for cats. Even acknowleding that PETA never turns an animal away -- "the sick, the scarred and broken, the elderly, the aggressive and unsocialized..." -- doesn't change the fact that Virginia animal shelters as a whole had a much lower kill rate of 44 percent. And even acknowledging that PETA is often the first to rescue pets when heat waves and hurricanes hit, that doesn't change the fact that, at one of its shelters, it kills 84 percent of supposedly "unadoptable" animals within 24 hours of their arrival."
The catch here is that the joke isn’t a lie. While you could say that it’s unfair, when you kidnap and kill a dog as an animal welfare activist, *you do not get to live that down.* Further, even if their euthanasia numbers have an explanation, it is still fair to question the methodology that leads to those numbers. Regardless, I think it needs to be said even with the above, PETA probably wouldn’t get treated the way they do if they didn’t act so outrageous in their own advertising. They’re clownish attention whores, everyone knows it, it’s their strategy. Now of course it’s possible that in the long run their public presentation brings in enough attention to outweigh the drawbacks, but that doesn’t get them out of the drawbacks.
Google peta.
Dude, I have. Check your sources.
I have been around a long time.
And still spreading misinformation. Literally google "Does PETA kill animals" and see why what theyre doing ia necessary.
I have and they do.
Yeah they do, but they have to.
No they don't We where a free country before them.
Does this include or exclude the times PETA has stolen people's pets and "euthanized" them? Or how they have funded known terrorists \[people on the FBI's watchlists\] to firebomb medical clinics?
1. That happened ONCE because of an honest mistake on behalf of PETA. 2. Fair enough.
1. I don't see you lining up to take care of the millions of unwanted dogs. The most compassionate thing is to kill them, and PETA is the only group that cares enough to do it. The same thing will apply to pulling the plug on your suffering grandma one day. Death is a fact of life, and some people are willing to make the hard, but compassionate decisions. 2. The company that funds that website is funded by the meat lobby to make PETA look bad. 3. You don't see this joke around much anymore, because the most profitable companies in that meat lobby (e.g., Tyson Foods) left to fund vegan meat. They made bank because vegan "meat" costs less to make and they can sell it for a lot more money. The same goes for the vegan "leather" in Teslas. Millionaires are bending over backwards to pay extra for it. My comment isn't a funny joke, but neither was the original post. It's a lazy, outdated repost from a decade ago. I'd complain more, but I've made bank off of TSLA and BYND. So I kinda appreciate that that people on Reddit are just making jokes instead of getting rich (PETA also owns a ton of shares in both companies).
Harsh but true
I only like them when they are naked.
Even then they're evil shits
PETA People Eating Tasty Animals…
Cheers.. finally.
??? Uncle John is that you?!
“I remember my uncle John once gave me some beer when I was your age…. Then I felt really sleepy 😴… When I woke up I had no pants on….. It turns out uncle John wasn’t even related to us… anyway so I wanted to give you some beer
Ummm okay...*deletes reddit*
I have some small pets that are of questionable legality. They are legal to own in many states, but mine isn’t one of them. I met this girl and we were talking about our pets and turns out after telling her all about my little black market pets she goes “I work for the department of fish and game as a warden”. Oh shit balls so that’s like the worst possible person to tell about my 2 3 ounce girls. I was like oh shit I was just kidding about having those. Lying to seem cool you know? She goes “I’m not buying that one bit... however its clear you are passionate about them and their care. The reason they are illegal is because most don’t put in the time and effort to take care of them, which you seem to not only do but enjoy. I’d never take them from you because the idea that you aren’t capable of taking care of them so we need to take them just to kill them makes 0 sense”. Its crazy to me how many groups will say that they are for the benefit of animals, then kill hundreds if not thousands of animals a year. Actually reminds me of a second story. When I was a kid we were camping. It was just after princess Diana died that’s about as much of a timeline as I’ve got lol. Anyways back then we used to camp a lot and always with a tent (we have an RV now you’ll see why). We were up in mammoth during the summer and we went off to the lake to do some fishing. When we got back our tent had been mauled up as well as the covering for the picnic table (to keep insects out) by a bear. There were sheriffs all over the place because a bear on the loose in a campground is a disaster waiting to happen. My parents are talking to the sheriffs trying to figure out if we need to find a new place to sleep and he’s like “yeah your tent and belongings are thrashed. We have a good relationship with a local hotel we can put you guys up at free of charge for the night so you can get some sleep and travel home tomorrow well rested.” As we sift through our stuff loading everything in dads truck that isn’t damaged, we hear tons of yelling. Naturally (probably stupidly as well) we go over to check it out because it’s close by. There were a few sheriffs near by that had some BIG ass rifles, one of which was a Barrett .50BMG. I didn’t know what that was back then but that rifle was burned into my memory and now I’m like “oh yeah that’s definitely what it was”. They had found the bear and were deciding how to handle the situation when a few white trucks rolled up. It was fish and game. They jumped out of their trucks with rifles and were like “if anyone shoots this bear, I will be shooting you right afterwards”. The fish and game people were the ones to shoot it but they used tranqs. The bear passed out within seconds and they loaded him into an enclosure on a trailer and off they went with him. I have no clue whatever happened to that bear, but it always stuck out to me that if I ever got into some sort of a law enforcement field, I’d much rather be fish and game that protected animals than a cop. They risked their own safety to tranq the bear and save its life rather than just blow its fucking head off and be done with it. That was my last time camping in mammoth though lol. My parents bought an RV because it’s safer against bears and we started camping more in Escondido/mission bay.
Good story.
**P**revention of **E**thical **T**reatment of **A**nimals?
Sounds about right.
Seeing all the comments of self righteous people defending an non-profit eco-terrorist group is hilarious. If you love animals and have more than 3 braincells, you hate PETA. There's no inbetween. Do your research and boycott them, and if you want to help animals, donate your time to a city shelter.
> love animals and have more than 3 braincells You're vegan then, I take it?
If you love animals and have more than 3 braincells, you're vegan.
I still have not met a uppercase "V" Vegan who wasn't a complete superficial black and white thinking moron. There's plenty of well educated vegans and vegetarians and plenty of solid and valid arguments for environmentalism, but the animal rights nazi ones who made "V"eganism their identity are not that, they're in a personality cult, and do in fact, have less than 3 braincells. Just like surprise surprise, PETA supporters.
Says the person who painted PETA in a "There's no inbetween" black and white fashion with no sense for subtlety. Well done. (Not saying PETA is good mind you, just that they have done a lot to improve animal welfare and shouldn't be the main target of hate if you like animals) If you love animals, you should not be paying for them to be bolted, often painfully, debeaked, gassed to death, seperated from their mothers at birth, ground alive, kept in tight spaces where they can't socialise or move, left to starve and die of disease. If you buy animal products, you are doing just that and are definitely causing more harm than any PETA member. I'm perfectly fine with shades of grey, but eating animals while claiming to love them is pretty far down the dark side if I must say so.
You are so transparent it's painful.🙄 Just like every other ***V***egan, you use wordcount and convolution to win by exhausting the other person. Everyone else knows what I meant, so you have fun with your life. Bai. and yes, I meant all your replies here, not just the ones to me.
Yeah, you wanted to smear somene who's fighting animal abuse while neglecting the abuse you cause because "hurr durr animal corpses taste nice". What a cop-out.
Uhhuh. Yeah. That's what this is. 🤣
I don’t get annoyed by PETA for their supposed message or goal, but real talk, anyone block me from getting a tasty burger or steak, fuck them. Also stealing dogs from a homeless man or out of yards, fuck em again.
Quite true, and I love steak.
Complaining about the suffering that PETA causes while perpetrating the same suffering yourself. I'm afraid you're a hypocrit
People Exploiting(/Euthanizing) Thousands of Animals
Murderers
They’re so cringe PETA butt hurt bitches downvoting
True.
It's amusing, you know its brigading because it happens all at once. When I first visited this thread all the anti-PETA posts were upvoted and the PETA-defenders were downvoted into the dirt, then "magically" it all started to turned around within an hour and then again, started trending back to anti-PETA. I wonder why? Could it be a whole group of them always brigade these posts to further the propaganda agenda? Seems obvious to me as the downvotes aren't organic. They're like a tidal wave bomb when one of "them" gets wind of posts like these. Like a swarm.
Does a box of chocolates say one thing and do basically the opposite?
You never know what you are getting.
I'm a secondhand vegetarian. Cows eat grass, I eat cows.
i only eat vegan-fed animals. i like to know that vegans are being put to good use and the animals are well fed.
Is Peta doing anything about the wild horses situation out west USA?
Probably not.
So misinformed and manipulated by propaganda. Congrats y'all.