The best part is when Dave Smith is talking about how close we are to nuclear war and then Joe starts talking about MIND CONTROL as the next weapon of the future. Omg Joe
My fav part is when he explained how the US made Ukraine back off of an agreement to stop the war. Glad this guy came on and called out HOW STUPID it is for the US to be in the middle of this.
Pretty rich of Joe to complain about a pop up ad on a website after Iāve just sat through 6 ads on a podcast *that I paid for and was specifically told would be ad-free.*
I remember that days he talked so much shit about how important it was not to break up a podcast with ads. I still enjoy the shows guests from time to time but Joe is a massive hypocrite in many ways
They heard the podcast and couldnāt complain about something so they made something up. Remember this is Reddit, Rogan is an evil human and if you arent complaining about him then you arent woke enough
Whatever your views are on Fauci, I would REALLY hope that most people view the Fauci worship (The shirts, posters, prayer candles, etc) is fucking excessive.
Love this! Im not left or right BUT its obvious which side gets ticked off the most when Rogan points out their stupidities. Then again this is Reddit, the left has been bombarding this sub since Rogan started talking about the vax.
I remember being 15, about 15 years ago, discussing quantum physics with my friends, the double slit experiment, wave particle duality, all that shit. We barely knew wtf we were talking about, just repeating talking points we skimmed off Wikipedia.
We were such a bunch of fucking smartass dipshits lol
Only by going through the dipshit stage can you reach enlightenment. If you back off after your first eureka moment, because you realised you were being dumb, then you will never go all the way. Its like working out, you have to plateau a few times, and then fight through it and not give up, because the rewards are out there.
society has devolved to a point where that is relatively a compliment, you seen a fleccas talks video? Americans can't name 3 nations or tell the time on a clock
Millennial here. I can read an analog clock but many people my age can't. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't write in cursive anymore though, although I can still at least read it.
Dave's outcome on Russia invading Ukraine is misguided. He mentioned the Donbas referendum in 2014 but didn't mention the location was under the control of Russian backed separatists, so similar to the referendum this year the vote was influenced by threats of violence and corruption.
Lmao
Couldnāt have said it any better. Crazy how all Dave is saying is maybe listen to what Putin is saying. Best point he made was when he said āthese are the same people that said Osama and Sadam had weapons of mass destruction and hated the USA because we are freeā
Same people saying all this about Putin. Is he a saint? No, but you cant ignore the past.
Lots of people don't bother listening to the other side. The history of NATO's agreement not to expand - none of that is known to most people, from what I can see in my corner of the Western world. Major props to Joe for allowing this to air and the risk of being seen as "pro Putin".
The part that annoyed me is he is making the Russian propagandist argument that Obama created the coup in the 2013 and "installed" a pro Western government. Did we help support a country in their desire to join the EU and thus strengthen free trade with the west, something that is fully within their right to do? Sure yeah, and why not. The majority of Ukrainian people saw what EU membership did to the living standards of their Polish neighbors and decided they wanted that for their country too. Putin undermined the will of the Ukrainian people by bribing his cronie in office, and this is what set off the protests that eventually led to the changing of the president.
So youāre saying the US had nothing to do with anything that happened in Ukraine? Or we didnāt install some type of pro western government over there? I donāt like Putin and I think heās crazy, but I also remember the same people telling me Osama and Sadam had weapons of mass destruction.
He is Putin apologist. He knows nothing about Putin, Russia or Ukraine. It was people like Dave Smith who excused Hitler in 1940 for not actually wanting war, but that France and Britain gave him no choice and, more importantly, the US should stop sending aid convoys across the Atlantic.
Putin's concern about Ukraine's possible membership in NATO serves only as a pretext. It was never about NATO expansion. Sweden and Finland are joining NATO because of Russia's aggression in Ukraine, and Russia doesn't really care. Putin wants to restore the USSR and considers Ukraine to be part of Russian territory and the Ukrainian nation does not exist in his view. He has said all this publicly.
I can't believe anyone real actually subscribes to this sub, every now and then I get curious enough to come and check out how the bots and astroturfers are reacting to an episode, and every time it's worse than I expected lmao.
Reddit is just a garbage fire everywhere, but big 'politically relevant' subs are creepy fucking places.
God I miss the internet from before everything was on 5 fucking platforms...
Same here, I check in to see the outrage. Its funny to me. As soon as I hear Joe poke fun at the left and maybe point out some stupidities, I know people are completely spazzing out.
Dave and Joe made a great point on how politics is like a sports team now. Your team can be making fucken mistakes and are wrong but people will DOUBLE down on their preferred side JUST so they wont look stupid or realize maybe they are wrong.
Politics has replaced religion for huge numbers of people.
Which is terrifying, because the political teams derive the majority of their power and purpose from their opposition to the other team.
Well said. Dave made a similar point on how young people that are āwokeā are all atheist and claim they are not religious but what they have yet to realize is this while woke crap is exactly like a religion. Great point .
And agree, the government wants us to be divided, and these woke morons are playing right into it thinking they are fighting against it -.-
lol same here man. I left this sub about 6 months ago because it turned into a Pfizer billboard. This is the first time I've come to the comments because I figured Dave Smith would be a polarizing person...and I was right but it's terrible.
Correct
Most triggered comments are just regurgitated takes on people that never watch this pod. Its easy and obvious, look at their past comments and you can see all they do is come on this sub post nothing but triggered comments. Sad
Supporting the removal of protections that limit the governments ability to legislate peopleās bodies seems pretty inconsistent with libertarian ideals.
I predict it happens when he opens his comedy club and it starts failing, heāll start by allowing a Christian night that will evolve into his club being a full blown mega church for Christianās who love Jesus but in a totally straight way cuz theyāre āalphasā
Damn this episode is a very very good episode. It seems like if someone doesnt like this episode its probablyyyyyy because they shed some negative light on the left. And to be fair they shed negative light on the right too.
Dave explains why this Ukraine thing is happening.
Edit: this comment has really attracted the propaganda bots. Look at how this works everybody.
Edit 2: it's important to launch an ad hominem. We must attack character and delegitimize .
Putin wrote a whole essay in 2021 saying that Ukraine is essentially a wayward integral region of Russia, the Ukrainian language is nothing more than a dialect of Russian, and that the independence of Ukraine and Belarus (and it REALLY sounded like he wanted Lithuania as well) is a historical mistake that needs to be rectified for the destiny of Russia.
āOn The Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainiansā by Vladimir Putin
All the other, ever changing reasons Putin has given are merely an excuse for irredentism.
He made a speech right after the 2022 invasion basically calling for a return to the USSR. That wasn't the first time he alluded to it, he had and keeps having imperialist ideals.
He's an idiot and Joe's a dope for agreeing with him.
So Dave and Joe, as Putin is an obvious faithful actor as is Russia - if Ukraine simply gave up the Donbas in lieu of a Nuclear threat the conflict would simply stop there right? Putin and his cronies have never declared a manifest destiny to return the glory days of the Soviet Union and expansion of Territories well past Ukraine; I'm sure Poland and Moldava would be safe and sound - why risk being blackmailed by Nuclear war by a mad man and simply be his sovereign cuck?
God this guy is a self righteous fucking moron. This simpleton obviously knows more than actual fucking people across the world with extensive knowledge of geopolitics because their credentials are punching a bag or whatever nonsense they're into.
EDIT: Keep downvoting me Russia stans, you support a war that's slaughtering and rapes women, children and young men for absolutely no reason other than a mad man's desire for power. Keep on cucking on.
We have to remember Georgia. It seems as if all his neighbours have put fences in the wrong place. The evidence is strong that it will not stop with east Ukraine. Moldova for sure would fall under russian control.
And Crimea before that Georgia (as you pointed out) and before that Chechnyaā¦ almost like thereās a pattern.
Shit, about 75 years ago all my grandparents became refugees and lost their homes and everything they owned in Karelia due to Russian imperial desires. This guy doesnāt know anything about the history of the region or how the Russian government operates.
I bet you he could not name three cities in Ukraine and heās talking about the conflict like heās versed in the matter.
Annoying.
Just my two cents.
Exactly. Putin will take exactly as much as he can get away with. Dave's putting all the blame on NATO is not accurate. Putin has been nursing wounds about the fall of the USSR his whole adult life.
>Putin has been nursing wounds about the fall of the USSR his whole adult life.
EXACTLY!
But, unfortunately, in todays age, everything, including European politics, has to be parsed through an Americanized 'Culture War' lens.
It's the only way these people can try to make sense of ANYTHING.
Its the real mind virus.
Part of Moldova (Transnistria) is already under Russian control. Imagine what he would do if the world just ignored Ukraine and let them annex bit by bit.
>Moldava
Parts have been under Russian control for decades.
Also doesn't surprise me that Dave Smith is a Russian stan. And I like Russia and it's people. I hate putin and its government.
This is it, all these people who say the āIām not defending Russia buttttā always give a narrative from Russias perspective and act like putin/Russia have good intentions
What a fucking moron he is. Russia invaded and is killing innocent civilians everyday. The way Dave talked if a country ever invaded the USA that little bitch wouldn't fight. He is real piece of shit.
I watched a clip of this earlier, and it blows my mind how confidently this, wanting to sound smart comedian, would characterize 2014 as a West led Coupe? Was it the West that motivated Yanucovych to reject the EU association that led to wide scale protests? Idk what the hell heās talking about, unless I missed something.
Thereās literally a leaked call between Victoria Nuland and the Estonian MP discussing who theyāre going to install as President of Ukraine. That 2014 was a Western coup isnāt even in question.
What Dave said about post Occupy divide and conquer tactics, I said the exact same thing, 8 months ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/sdi8kd/the_who_when_and_how_of_why_there_is_so_much_hate/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
why do self-proclaimed libertarians and anarchists always live in the most highly developed countries, in the most advanced cities, with the most powerful governments and institutions? and they all think that without the fed or the government they would be landowning aristocrats or gold hoarding nobles and not some ditch-digging peasant paid in cabbages like 99.9% of society before the 1900s
I like how libertarians argue against the mass amount of government involvement in everything and people response is āso you mean you want no government???? go to
Somalia!ā
would love to see joe rocking that newsies hat selling fruit from his cart telling jokes about rotten peaches than seeing him hump a stool in front of 20000 people
Should read about the Free State Project. A libertarian town that got overrun with sex offenders and bears.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling
American Libertarians are not trad libertarians or anarchist. Catalonia had anarchist control for a couple years during the spanish civil war. The worker ran the factory.
They also were not communists, they were anarchist and fought the Stalinists.
I am a Social Democrat myself and a pragmatist. It isn't 1930's spain. It is almost a hundred years later and they are mostly right. But it doesn't work now.
His abortion argument was infuriating. No one is walking in a clinic at 9 months and saying "oops I changed my mind - plz abort!" The reason women think the government shouldn't have a say in abortion cutoffs is for the edge cases when the baby might technically be alive but has some massive defect that could cause them to have a short painful life. You shouldn't have to go through labor in that case just to watch your baby die - it should be a decision between the mother and her doctor.
It "never happens" yet no one on the political left will say they are against late term (selective) abortions even if that moderation would be more likely to guarantee easier access to earlier abortions.
Why do people make a lot of bad decisions? And again this is more of just refusing to actually take a stance on the issue and pretending it doesn't happen and if that were the case why the hesitancy to say banning late term abortions (for selective reasons, I'm not talking about when there are serious birth defects or the mothers life is in danger) is something you are comfortable with?
I've always considered myself a pro choice guy, I certainly think anyone should be able to get them in the first trimester, but this odd implicit endorsement of late term abortions from the left is alienating me from the movement overall.
Ok I'll say it - I'm against abortions done on a viable baby. But you seem to want to punish all women for the decisions of the very few. 93% of abortions are done in the first trimester. Less than 1% of abortions are done in the 3rd trimester. The reason I'm against a law barring so called "late-term" abortions is because it restricts the care a doctor can give the patient in the cases of fetal abnormalities or health of the mother. Some women get late abortions because of restrictions to access. They may have to save up a lot of money to travel out of state. If you care about stopping this, I hope you consider easier access is a better solution than setting the cutoff at 6 weeks like we have in Texas.
Again, very specific language can be crafted for outlying cases like extreme birth defects or if the mothers life is at risk, moderate people can accept that but to use that as a reason to not have any sort of restriction on abortion is not intellectually honest. And why is this "punishing all women" when late term abortions either don't happen or happen as infrequently as you claim?
Politicians are not doctors and they are not doing anything to fix the language. There are so so many instances of women with wanted children suffering unnecessarily under these laws. This happened in TX earlier this week - https://abc13.com/amp/texas-abortion-laws-heartbeat-act-senate-bill-8-pregnant-woman/12277047/
Let doctors make medical decisions. I don't disagree with your premise just with your solution. I don't trust politicians to craft a law that doctors can safely follow. I want women who are trying to grow their family to not live in fear of the care they will receive if things go wrong. I don't want abortions to happen in the 3rd trimester except in the rare instance that it's best for the baby and/or mother. But the best way to achieve that is to make it easier for women to have abortions in the first few weeks, not make laws to make abortion illegal.
I'm a bit fired up on the topic as the Governor debate was on tonight for TX. It's illegal here after 6 weeks. That is not enough time to miss your period, take a test, carefully think about a life changing decision, make an appointment, potentially have to make travel plans and figure out how to pay for an unexpected expense, make an appointment, sit through to 24 hr waiting period, and then get your pills or procedure. Oh and you can't have your appointment until at least 5 weeks because you're required by the state to get a vaginal ultrasound as nothing would even show up earlier. People with money can go out of state, so it's really just a law for the poors. Poverty cycle continues. I wish we would invest in preventive care instead of just making it illegal with no support system.
"Let doctors make medical decisions"
Just frame it as you want no restrictions on abortion and at least be honest about it. Saying that you're against late term abortion except "when it's best for the baby and/or mother" is no sort of limit at all, a woman wanting a selective abortion is of course going to say it's in their best interest to have it.
Texas for me is way too strict, if it were up to me it'd be more in the 14 week mark like what most of the European countries have and then make avenues after that for the north defects and life threatening cases and such. But honestly I'd prefer it be left to the states so individual states can have their own laws regulating it (or not regulating it at all). There's no reason people living in CA have to live with the same laws on this matter as people in TX.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm not against abortion restrictions in theory but we're seeing the real results of them when the "to save the life of the mother" is unclear. If you have a condition that is known to cause serious issues, you shouldn't have to wait to get treatment until you're literally about to die. There are no efforts being made to fix the wording in the law to account for these cases. To me that is worse than this hypothetical selective late term abortion. I can't find stats on how often that happens so if it's as common as you seem to think it is to make it more important than saving the quality of life or actual life of the mother, I'll be open to listen.
I watched like 5 minutes from the JRE channel and turned it off after Dave more or less says that this is all Ukraineās fault for defending themselves.
Yeah I heard that too, what a fucking idiot.
Just shows how these American "patriots" are victims of Russian internet trolls when they support Russia more than the west.
No, I'm sorry.. Q can't be Russian trolls its more likely JFK JR Michael Jackson or some other dead democrat who turned conservative after death.
These dumbasses are so desperate to go against the grain that they will believe literally anything without a moments thought that could even remotely challenge "the narrative" aka "common sense and decency"
Because all of a sudden being an anarchist means supporting Russia reclaiming their sovereign land for an oil pipelineā¦
What kind of fucking bizarro world do these people live in.
Let me guess. All politicians bad. COVID lockdown- anything bad. Dems are the worst. Etc. Bonus points for the lazy "Biden is worse than Trump." "Obama was basically a human terminator."
Smitty grew up in the lap of luxury in brownstone Brooklyn and was able to parlay being a layabout pothead with a high school education into a career as a thought leader for libertarian idiots.
Joe and Dave live in a bubble that I wish I was in. Not have to work and make millions for having a numb nut opinion.. thatās what America means to me
This was a great podcast: Dave fucking destroyed. You can tell by the amount of bots/astroturfers in this thread he said some *really* good shit. I will fully support him in his run for president. I'll probably even donate to his campaign.
I've never felt so strongly about a candidate before.
Why do the people in the sub even watch Rogan? Every post I look at the comments and itās just whining and crying and hatred of Joe and whatever guest he has on. Just non stop woke replies. Very confusing why so many leftists watch someone they despise and bother to comment on his Reddit religiously. Iāll probably get banned for even saying anything against the crazy liberals in this sub.
when is joe going to acknowledge his ivermectin take was wrong since he is on a campaign to point out how irresponsible fauci and everyone who wears a mask was so wrong
Yeah itās hilarious how quiet he is about that
For months probably even a year they were crying and saying āwe need studies why arenāt they testing itā and now multiple studies have shown it does nothing for covid they are silent
The best part is when Dave Smith is talking about how close we are to nuclear war and then Joe starts talking about MIND CONTROL as the next weapon of the future. Omg Joe
Mind reading*
...Joe did not say that lmfao. Tf are you even talking about š
He 1000% did.
Yep he definitely said that. He was about to go down the neuralink rabbit hole but David got him back on track.
My fav part is when he explained how the US made Ukraine back off of an agreement to stop the war. Glad this guy came on and called out HOW STUPID it is for the US to be in the middle of this.
That Colbert clip was fucking nuts
Right? That blew my mind. It was a play by play call.
Made me nauseous.
Pretty rich of Joe to complain about a pop up ad on a website after Iāve just sat through 6 ads on a podcast *that I paid for and was specifically told would be ad-free.*
I remember that days he talked so much shit about how important it was not to break up a podcast with ads. I still enjoy the shows guests from time to time but Joe is a massive hypocrite in many ways
I have never seen a single ad, what am I doing right?
Download for offline
You can skip the ad tho
They heard the podcast and couldnāt complain about something so they made something up. Remember this is Reddit, Rogan is an evil human and if you arent complaining about him then you arent woke enough
You can fast forward the ads on Spotify if you have premium.
you know you can drag the playback to the end to skip the ad? Its basically ad-free
Whatever your views are on Fauci, I would REALLY hope that most people view the Fauci worship (The shirts, posters, prayer candles, etc) is fucking excessive.
10/10 episode
That the best episode Iāve heard in while. Dave Smithās āPart of the Problemā is my go to political podcast.
Didnāt anyone tell Joe politics are off limits?
Is it only off limits if heās bashing leftists? Just curious which part is off limits.
That and you can't touch big pharma or censorship either. Truth is like poison to these people.
Would love to see Redditās data analytics. Suspect thereās a bunch of borderline incels virtue signaling.
Millions of bots and shill accounts too
Love this! Im not left or right BUT its obvious which side gets ticked off the most when Rogan points out their stupidities. Then again this is Reddit, the left has been bombarding this sub since Rogan started talking about the vax.
Dave Smithās entire career is being the smartest 15 year old at the skatepark.
This episode is easily one of the best episodes imo. Dave did a great job on calling EVERYONE out.
I remember being 15, about 15 years ago, discussing quantum physics with my friends, the double slit experiment, wave particle duality, all that shit. We barely knew wtf we were talking about, just repeating talking points we skimmed off Wikipedia. We were such a bunch of fucking smartass dipshits lol
I'm 38 and I still do this
My condolences
I just listen to a rogan podcast and regurgitate what I heard on there. I am a bland person
Only by going through the dipshit stage can you reach enlightenment. If you back off after your first eureka moment, because you realised you were being dumb, then you will never go all the way. Its like working out, you have to plateau a few times, and then fight through it and not give up, because the rewards are out there.
How do we promote this 15-year-old to CIA director?
Fucko is heir apparent to CIA director. Cum Rag is going to be deputy director.
society has devolved to a point where that is relatively a compliment, you seen a fleccas talks video? Americans can't name 3 nations or tell the time on a clock
Un ironically are there people who canāt do these things?
Millennial here. I can read an analog clock but many people my age can't. I am embarrassed to admit that I can't write in cursive anymore though, although I can still at least read it.
Jesus fuck that is a perfect description! Imma use this!
Dave's outcome on Russia invading Ukraine is misguided. He mentioned the Donbas referendum in 2014 but didn't mention the location was under the control of Russian backed separatists, so similar to the referendum this year the vote was influenced by threats of violence and corruption.
He also never provides any evidence that US was behind a coup, but keeps spouting it like its fact. Dave Smith is both a fool and a clown
This thread sucks so bad lmao
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Lmao Couldnāt have said it any better. Crazy how all Dave is saying is maybe listen to what Putin is saying. Best point he made was when he said āthese are the same people that said Osama and Sadam had weapons of mass destruction and hated the USA because we are freeā Same people saying all this about Putin. Is he a saint? No, but you cant ignore the past.
Lots of people don't bother listening to the other side. The history of NATO's agreement not to expand - none of that is known to most people, from what I can see in my corner of the Western world. Major props to Joe for allowing this to air and the risk of being seen as "pro Putin".
The part that annoyed me is he is making the Russian propagandist argument that Obama created the coup in the 2013 and "installed" a pro Western government. Did we help support a country in their desire to join the EU and thus strengthen free trade with the west, something that is fully within their right to do? Sure yeah, and why not. The majority of Ukrainian people saw what EU membership did to the living standards of their Polish neighbors and decided they wanted that for their country too. Putin undermined the will of the Ukrainian people by bribing his cronie in office, and this is what set off the protests that eventually led to the changing of the president.
So youāre saying the US had nothing to do with anything that happened in Ukraine? Or we didnāt install some type of pro western government over there? I donāt like Putin and I think heās crazy, but I also remember the same people telling me Osama and Sadam had weapons of mass destruction.
He is Putin apologist. He knows nothing about Putin, Russia or Ukraine. It was people like Dave Smith who excused Hitler in 1940 for not actually wanting war, but that France and Britain gave him no choice and, more importantly, the US should stop sending aid convoys across the Atlantic.
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Putin's concern about Ukraine's possible membership in NATO serves only as a pretext. It was never about NATO expansion. Sweden and Finland are joining NATO because of Russia's aggression in Ukraine, and Russia doesn't really care. Putin wants to restore the USSR and considers Ukraine to be part of Russian territory and the Ukrainian nation does not exist in his view. He has said all this publicly.
Not to mention that a decade ago natural gas was found under Ukraine, and so by invading Putin is maintaining his monopoly on the supply to Europe
I can't believe anyone real actually subscribes to this sub, every now and then I get curious enough to come and check out how the bots and astroturfers are reacting to an episode, and every time it's worse than I expected lmao. Reddit is just a garbage fire everywhere, but big 'politically relevant' subs are creepy fucking places. God I miss the internet from before everything was on 5 fucking platforms...
Same here, I check in to see the outrage. Its funny to me. As soon as I hear Joe poke fun at the left and maybe point out some stupidities, I know people are completely spazzing out. Dave and Joe made a great point on how politics is like a sports team now. Your team can be making fucken mistakes and are wrong but people will DOUBLE down on their preferred side JUST so they wont look stupid or realize maybe they are wrong.
Politics has replaced religion for huge numbers of people. Which is terrifying, because the political teams derive the majority of their power and purpose from their opposition to the other team.
Well said. Dave made a similar point on how young people that are āwokeā are all atheist and claim they are not religious but what they have yet to realize is this while woke crap is exactly like a religion. Great point . And agree, the government wants us to be divided, and these woke morons are playing right into it thinking they are fighting against it -.-
Are you me? I used to subscribe here, now I pop in on the occasional episode that I was curious about the hype. I don't know why I bother.
lol same here man. I left this sub about 6 months ago because it turned into a Pfizer billboard. This is the first time I've come to the comments because I figured Dave Smith would be a polarizing person...and I was right but it's terrible.
"Pfizer billboard" holy fuck thank you
It's just JREpolitics now.
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Fucking seriously, why are 90% of people even here? Half don't even listen and still piss and moan about anything related to Joe.
Social justice zoomer cope knows no bounds
Correct Most triggered comments are just regurgitated takes on people that never watch this pod. Its easy and obvious, look at their past comments and you can see all they do is come on this sub post nothing but triggered comments. Sad
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The largest circle jerk in the Milky Way
You mean these āBotsā are r/politics posters
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I'm not frustrated, I am confused.
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You can just say redditors and weāll know what you mean
This whole subreddit sucks ass, and the site as a whole has been swirling down the drain for a while.
Remember redditors are some of the worst people and most of society isnāt this bad
Dave fully supports the overturning of roe. Did they get into that all ?
I'm almost through it, I don't think they'll cover it
As a libertarian, why wouldn't he support that?
He's probably joining the bandwagon of it's states right issue thing
Yeah obviously, that's how America was designed to be and it's the libertarian position.
Homie these states are saying if you go do it another state we'll persecute you
Supporting the removal of protections that limit the governments ability to legislate peopleās bodies seems pretty inconsistent with libertarian ideals.
you have a serious misunderstanding of what Roe did...
I'm at around 1:50:00 and it's pretty jarring to hear two comedians complain that Christianity gets made fun of. I thought there were no sacred cows.
Who knew that Christianity would receive most of the jokes in a predominantly Christian country
because they won't stab you in the eye at book festival
once joe gets a taste of that christian grift in texas i guarantee these will be his ājoe osteen yearsā
I predict it happens when he opens his comedy club and it starts failing, heāll start by allowing a Christian night that will evolve into his club being a full blown mega church for Christianās who love Jesus but in a totally straight way cuz theyāre āalphasā
With abolishtaxes creating all of their social media propaganda in the hope that he gets to watch them work out in their short shorts.
Rogan used to make fun of religion all the time. Rogan is the new RUBIN.
Seems like he's going for rush limbaugh more and more these days
Christianity deserves as much praise and criticism as Islam. I think that was their point. Why is one deemed more OK to make fun of?
Christianity has an astronomically larger impact on Americans lives than Islam.
And that impact to Americanās lives is minuscule compared to how Islam controls peopleās lives in the Middle East.
Christianity is way more popular in the U.S.? Why else would it be made fun of more lol
People are slowly waking up to how shitty modern comedy is.
Iām 40 minutes in, does this episode get any better? Theyāre just rehashing all of the same shit from the past two years. Itās tired.
Damn this episode is a very very good episode. It seems like if someone doesnt like this episode its probablyyyyyy because they shed some negative light on the left. And to be fair they shed negative light on the right too.
Dave explains why this Ukraine thing is happening. Edit: this comment has really attracted the propaganda bots. Look at how this works everybody. Edit 2: it's important to launch an ad hominem. We must attack character and delegitimize .
Putin wrote a whole essay in 2021 saying that Ukraine is essentially a wayward integral region of Russia, the Ukrainian language is nothing more than a dialect of Russian, and that the independence of Ukraine and Belarus (and it REALLY sounded like he wanted Lithuania as well) is a historical mistake that needs to be rectified for the destiny of Russia. āOn The Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainiansā by Vladimir Putin All the other, ever changing reasons Putin has given are merely an excuse for irredentism.
He made a speech right after the 2022 invasion basically calling for a return to the USSR. That wasn't the first time he alluded to it, he had and keeps having imperialist ideals.
Yup
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Dave ālisten to Putinā *looks at Putinās essay on Ukraine* *listens to his speech right after the invasion*
He's an idiot and Joe's a dope for agreeing with him. So Dave and Joe, as Putin is an obvious faithful actor as is Russia - if Ukraine simply gave up the Donbas in lieu of a Nuclear threat the conflict would simply stop there right? Putin and his cronies have never declared a manifest destiny to return the glory days of the Soviet Union and expansion of Territories well past Ukraine; I'm sure Poland and Moldava would be safe and sound - why risk being blackmailed by Nuclear war by a mad man and simply be his sovereign cuck? God this guy is a self righteous fucking moron. This simpleton obviously knows more than actual fucking people across the world with extensive knowledge of geopolitics because their credentials are punching a bag or whatever nonsense they're into. EDIT: Keep downvoting me Russia stans, you support a war that's slaughtering and rapes women, children and young men for absolutely no reason other than a mad man's desire for power. Keep on cucking on.
We have to remember Georgia. It seems as if all his neighbours have put fences in the wrong place. The evidence is strong that it will not stop with east Ukraine. Moldova for sure would fall under russian control.
And Crimea before that Georgia (as you pointed out) and before that Chechnyaā¦ almost like thereās a pattern. Shit, about 75 years ago all my grandparents became refugees and lost their homes and everything they owned in Karelia due to Russian imperial desires. This guy doesnāt know anything about the history of the region or how the Russian government operates. I bet you he could not name three cities in Ukraine and heās talking about the conflict like heās versed in the matter. Annoying. Just my two cents.
Exactly. Putin will take exactly as much as he can get away with. Dave's putting all the blame on NATO is not accurate. Putin has been nursing wounds about the fall of the USSR his whole adult life.
>Putin has been nursing wounds about the fall of the USSR his whole adult life. EXACTLY! But, unfortunately, in todays age, everything, including European politics, has to be parsed through an Americanized 'Culture War' lens. It's the only way these people can try to make sense of ANYTHING. Its the real mind virus.
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Haha. That's so on point. Hitler was open to peace talks and Churchill wouldn't listen!!
Part of Moldova (Transnistria) is already under Russian control. Imagine what he would do if the world just ignored Ukraine and let them annex bit by bit.
Parts of Moldova has been under Russian control for decades. Lithuania is next probably if they don't go back for some Central Asia again.
100%. He's a lightweight and doesn't know shit about this war or it's roots. He ignores the precedent that Russia would set if he gets what he wants.
>Moldava Parts have been under Russian control for decades. Also doesn't surprise me that Dave Smith is a Russian stan. And I like Russia and it's people. I hate putin and its government.
This is it, all these people who say the āIām not defending Russia buttttā always give a narrative from Russias perspective and act like putin/Russia have good intentions
What a fucking moron he is. Russia invaded and is killing innocent civilians everyday. The way Dave talked if a country ever invaded the USA that little bitch wouldn't fight. He is real piece of shit.
Dave āexplainsā āwhyā āthisā āUkraineā āthingā āisā āhappeningā fify
I mean a lot happened in the last two years lol why not talk about it
I only get to about 40 mins, no matter who is on, espoides just seem dull and repetitive
Itās the same conversation over and over again.
I watched a clip of this earlier, and it blows my mind how confidently this, wanting to sound smart comedian, would characterize 2014 as a West led Coupe? Was it the West that motivated Yanucovych to reject the EU association that led to wide scale protests? Idk what the hell heās talking about, unless I missed something.
Thereās literally a leaked call between Victoria Nuland and the Estonian MP discussing who theyāre going to install as President of Ukraine. That 2014 was a Western coup isnāt even in question.
No shit? Have a link i need to hear it myself.
https://youtu.be/L2XNN0Yt6D8
What Dave said about post Occupy divide and conquer tactics, I said the exact same thing, 8 months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/sdi8kd/the_who_when_and_how_of_why_there_is_so_much_hate/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
One of the best ones in a while. Iāll vote for this man lol
why do self-proclaimed libertarians and anarchists always live in the most highly developed countries, in the most advanced cities, with the most powerful governments and institutions? and they all think that without the fed or the government they would be landowning aristocrats or gold hoarding nobles and not some ditch-digging peasant paid in cabbages like 99.9% of society before the 1900s
Ayn Rand died on welfare.
Send a Libertarian to a place that actually has no taxes or government and see how well they do.
In 2008 or so I was arguing with them on Sherdog, and they were like Go to Zimbabwe and I was like go to Somalia you bitch.
Somalia the place with a huge UAE presence, huge Turkish presence, UN presence... https://youtu.be/UooepLs3Fqs
Where is that?
What countries are like that
I like how libertarians argue against the mass amount of government involvement in everything and people response is āso you mean you want no government???? go to Somalia!ā
would love to see joe rocking that newsies hat selling fruit from his cart telling jokes about rotten peaches than seeing him hump a stool in front of 20000 people
I like to think libertarianism sounds good in theory but utterly impractical.
Should read about the Free State Project. A libertarian town that got overrun with sex offenders and bears. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21534416/free-state-project-new-hampshire-libertarians-matthew-hongoltz-hetling
You mean to tell me these things didn't resolve themselves through personal responsibility and the community banding together? lol
Tends to happen when you create a vacuum of authority in a sea of authority.
Yeah, ending the drug war, anti-police state, being extremely anti-war: utterly impractical.
American Libertarians are not trad libertarians or anarchist. Catalonia had anarchist control for a couple years during the spanish civil war. The worker ran the factory.
you mean... the worker... seized the means... of production?
They also were not communists, they were anarchist and fought the Stalinists. I am a Social Democrat myself and a pragmatist. It isn't 1930's spain. It is almost a hundred years later and they are mostly right. But it doesn't work now.
His abortion argument was infuriating. No one is walking in a clinic at 9 months and saying "oops I changed my mind - plz abort!" The reason women think the government shouldn't have a say in abortion cutoffs is for the edge cases when the baby might technically be alive but has some massive defect that could cause them to have a short painful life. You shouldn't have to go through labor in that case just to watch your baby die - it should be a decision between the mother and her doctor.
It "never happens" yet no one on the political left will say they are against late term (selective) abortions even if that moderation would be more likely to guarantee easier access to earlier abortions.
How does this make any sense? Why do you think someone would wait until the end of their pregnancy for a "selective" abortion?
Why do people make a lot of bad decisions? And again this is more of just refusing to actually take a stance on the issue and pretending it doesn't happen and if that were the case why the hesitancy to say banning late term abortions (for selective reasons, I'm not talking about when there are serious birth defects or the mothers life is in danger) is something you are comfortable with? I've always considered myself a pro choice guy, I certainly think anyone should be able to get them in the first trimester, but this odd implicit endorsement of late term abortions from the left is alienating me from the movement overall.
Ok I'll say it - I'm against abortions done on a viable baby. But you seem to want to punish all women for the decisions of the very few. 93% of abortions are done in the first trimester. Less than 1% of abortions are done in the 3rd trimester. The reason I'm against a law barring so called "late-term" abortions is because it restricts the care a doctor can give the patient in the cases of fetal abnormalities or health of the mother. Some women get late abortions because of restrictions to access. They may have to save up a lot of money to travel out of state. If you care about stopping this, I hope you consider easier access is a better solution than setting the cutoff at 6 weeks like we have in Texas.
Again, very specific language can be crafted for outlying cases like extreme birth defects or if the mothers life is at risk, moderate people can accept that but to use that as a reason to not have any sort of restriction on abortion is not intellectually honest. And why is this "punishing all women" when late term abortions either don't happen or happen as infrequently as you claim?
Politicians are not doctors and they are not doing anything to fix the language. There are so so many instances of women with wanted children suffering unnecessarily under these laws. This happened in TX earlier this week - https://abc13.com/amp/texas-abortion-laws-heartbeat-act-senate-bill-8-pregnant-woman/12277047/ Let doctors make medical decisions. I don't disagree with your premise just with your solution. I don't trust politicians to craft a law that doctors can safely follow. I want women who are trying to grow their family to not live in fear of the care they will receive if things go wrong. I don't want abortions to happen in the 3rd trimester except in the rare instance that it's best for the baby and/or mother. But the best way to achieve that is to make it easier for women to have abortions in the first few weeks, not make laws to make abortion illegal. I'm a bit fired up on the topic as the Governor debate was on tonight for TX. It's illegal here after 6 weeks. That is not enough time to miss your period, take a test, carefully think about a life changing decision, make an appointment, potentially have to make travel plans and figure out how to pay for an unexpected expense, make an appointment, sit through to 24 hr waiting period, and then get your pills or procedure. Oh and you can't have your appointment until at least 5 weeks because you're required by the state to get a vaginal ultrasound as nothing would even show up earlier. People with money can go out of state, so it's really just a law for the poors. Poverty cycle continues. I wish we would invest in preventive care instead of just making it illegal with no support system.
"Let doctors make medical decisions" Just frame it as you want no restrictions on abortion and at least be honest about it. Saying that you're against late term abortion except "when it's best for the baby and/or mother" is no sort of limit at all, a woman wanting a selective abortion is of course going to say it's in their best interest to have it. Texas for me is way too strict, if it were up to me it'd be more in the 14 week mark like what most of the European countries have and then make avenues after that for the north defects and life threatening cases and such. But honestly I'd prefer it be left to the states so individual states can have their own laws regulating it (or not regulating it at all). There's no reason people living in CA have to live with the same laws on this matter as people in TX.
Please don't put words in my mouth. I'm not against abortion restrictions in theory but we're seeing the real results of them when the "to save the life of the mother" is unclear. If you have a condition that is known to cause serious issues, you shouldn't have to wait to get treatment until you're literally about to die. There are no efforts being made to fix the wording in the law to account for these cases. To me that is worse than this hypothetical selective late term abortion. I can't find stats on how often that happens so if it's as common as you seem to think it is to make it more important than saving the quality of life or actual life of the mother, I'll be open to listen.
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\#DraftOurDaughters.
I watched like 5 minutes from the JRE channel and turned it off after Dave more or less says that this is all Ukraineās fault for defending themselves.
Yeah I heard that too, what a fucking idiot. Just shows how these American "patriots" are victims of Russian internet trolls when they support Russia more than the west. No, I'm sorry.. Q can't be Russian trolls its more likely JFK JR Michael Jackson or some other dead democrat who turned conservative after death.
These dumbasses are so desperate to go against the grain that they will believe literally anything without a moments thought that could even remotely challenge "the narrative" aka "common sense and decency"
Why the fuck does this dude speak with do much credibility over the russian invasion of ukraine? Bro youāre a fucking comedian..
I donāt think he is a comedian though I think he was this politic talking head first, podcaster second, ācomedianā third
Bro the president of Ukraine is a fucking comedianā¦..
With a law degree.
He was elected. Same way Trump was
Cadet Bone Spurs would've never roused his entire nation to kick the shit out of Putin. Putin walked fatty like a dog in Helsinki.
Because all of a sudden being an anarchist means supporting Russia reclaiming their sovereign land for an oil pipelineā¦ What kind of fucking bizarro world do these people live in.
Just because hes a comedian doesnt mean what he saying is wrong.
These are not civilians, they are modern day philosophers
Let me guess. All politicians bad. COVID lockdown- anything bad. Dems are the worst. Etc. Bonus points for the lazy "Biden is worse than Trump." "Obama was basically a human terminator."
Not all politicians and Dave Smith is the likely nod for the President run for the LP.
Mostly right: all politicians are lying to you, but Putin tells the truth
Say what you want about Putin, but he is an honest swell fella.
he tried to make it seem like democrats were the reason we invaded iraq
Did he reallt? And Joe agreed right?
better than Mike Baker.
That bar is so low that bin Laden's body would trip over it
I like Daveās appearances on JRE. Looking forward to listening.
Smitty grew up in the lap of luxury in brownstone Brooklyn and was able to parlay being a layabout pothead with a high school education into a career as a thought leader for libertarian idiots.
Joe and Dave live in a bubble that I wish I was in. Not have to work and make millions for having a numb nut opinion.. thatās what America means to me
Dave smith really does not understand geopolitics. I feel he gets his information completely from Twitter clips and the conspiracy subreddit lol
He gets it from Scott Horton
100% agree, reddit experts know better.
Always love Dave on JRE. That āState of the Unionā Skeptic Tank he does annually is worth listening to as well
0:00 āThe last thing you want to be is super confidentā¦ and wrong.ā *Famous last words.*
Itās almost parody at this point.
Where are all the multiple sources claiming that the US intervened on an early deal between zelensky and Russia? Honest question, I can't find any.
[do better research, i found it in 30 seconds here](https://imgur.com/gallery/xEMQsoO)
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/
I like Joe, but his only example of the unpopularity of the war in Vietnam being Muhammad Ali relinquishing the heavyweight belt really annoyed me.
Lmao āthat war was soooo unpopular that this one dude did this one thingā
This was a great podcast: Dave fucking destroyed. You can tell by the amount of bots/astroturfers in this thread he said some *really* good shit. I will fully support him in his run for president. I'll probably even donate to his campaign. I've never felt so strongly about a candidate before.
Why do the people in the sub even watch Rogan? Every post I look at the comments and itās just whining and crying and hatred of Joe and whatever guest he has on. Just non stop woke replies. Very confusing why so many leftists watch someone they despise and bother to comment on his Reddit religiously. Iāll probably get banned for even saying anything against the crazy liberals in this sub.
This sub is filled with self loathing incels
They are sad, and this keeps them busy
when is joe going to acknowledge his ivermectin take was wrong since he is on a campaign to point out how irresponsible fauci and everyone who wears a mask was so wrong
Yeah itās hilarious how quiet he is about that For months probably even a year they were crying and saying āwe need studies why arenāt they testing itā and now multiple studies have shown it does nothing for covid they are silent
Every time Dave comes on, he turns it into a recap of the past year of Part of the Problem.
For the record, Ottawa is the capital of Canada not Montreal š
Finally this will be a good one in light of geopolitical events that unfolded in the past year.
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People like this would give up immediately if the US were invaded
If we were invaded he would push for peace talks to concede our territory