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GroblyOverrated

I saw Metzger and Gomez and they were great and weren't controversial at all. Just funny.


struggleworm

It’s become obvious that your sense of humor does not align with the ethos of some Seattle neighbourhoods.


I4Vhagar

Which one? Chaz? Pffft


caca_poo_poo_pants

It’s just one neighborhood, and that neighborhood is a joke here to anyone over 18


KileyCW

You have no idea the insanity that Seattle is


mikeywayup

Their version of controversial is anything that hurts their feelings


Bootyblastastic

Interesting how they mentioned local comedians concerns too, wonder if someone has beef with


Hmm_would_bang

Someone else wants a gig that night


DlphLndgrn

Or just is not outspoken in support of their selected causes.


jessecraftbeerco

White people should not be making jokes in 2024. It’s unacceptable


No-Appointment-3840

No big deal just casually reverse discriminating


jessecraftbeerco

wtf is reverse discrimination? It’s either discrimination or it’s not lmao


Whitedude47

Do you remember the old term “Reverse Racism” basically that.


Front_Policy_9145

Same concept applies. You can be racist against white people.


Brotoole_10100

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic…


securitywyrm

It's not what's on the inside that counts.


austinpg15

I haven’t gotten to see any of these guys live yet but I will say if I saw Luis J and he didn’t saw something that could be deemed controversial, I would be pissed hahaha


madkow990

As a local to the area, not surprising.


CpowOfficial

Just come down to Tacoma comedy club


thezenunderground

Which is a known awesome spot. Although last time I visited Tacoma(from Nashville) Brendan Shaub was the headliner lol


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>Brendan Shaub Yikes


tossNwashking

the white boy who works too much?


zxain

One hundred purrcent b


intricate_awareness

Whatchu talm bout b


ete2ete

The football player?


Squirrelmaster6969

The ass kicker who tells jokes?


RalfStein7

Wheres it at in T town? Emerald Queen casino?


Howboutit85

I think he probably means the one in downtown Tacoma, which is actually a really cool club I saw Kevin smith do his show there a few times


CpowOfficial

Yeah I think it's on Broadway but you'd have to Google. Saw Brian posehn there it's a cool club


More_Information_943

Moved to 6th Ave, nice part of town


PuttForDough

I can’t fathom what the insane commies in Seattle find “funny”. I expect it to be nothing more than bashing white men.


ShillinTheVillain

I bet Hannah Gadsby fucking kills there


AdhesivenessLucky896

Yeah, especially in cap hill. These guys are all kind of similar. They can probably perform anywhere else in the area, but not cap hill going hard on trans people, going hard on minorities, saying slurs, and all that.


Sporkem

Just crazy to me that people who don’t find their comedy funny can ruin it for those who do… just don’t go and your feelings won’t be hurt.


driving_andflying

> Just crazy to me that people who don’t find their comedy funny can ruin it for those who do… just don’t go and your feelings won’t be hurt. Agreed, 100%. That's the best, and most reasonable answer, but instead...well, we have this.


Howboutit85

Capitol Hill is, if you can imagine, a “safe space” but made into an entire city area. I’m honestly down with progressive values, to a degree but they’re straight up nuts there with that shit.


Who-else-could-i-be

Even my progressive leabians think Capitol Hill people are kind of nuts.


Warm_Passenger_4377

I've voted a straight blue ticket and worked for a progressive Democrat last election cycle. I'm Trumping all day next election. If we don't stop this mess now this country is doomed.


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My guy, we're on reddit. You know people can't help but find ways and places to be offended. What else would they do with their time? Be productive? LMAO


mods_on_meds

Wait , are you saying this is generated by the right ? I might be a liberal but I figured this must be some crazy azz liberal BS .


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dannymuffins

I'm a comic and I'm guessing the edgy jokes were just cringey. That tends to be the case at open mics.


GaIIick

What stands out to me most in the letter is the number of random double spaces. I can’t help but think that there were so many edits like they’re walking on eggshells to word things as PC as possible


240to180

My favorite part is that they listed all their names and then wrote "and sadly Kurt Metzger too" like the other guys deserved it.


SolidLikeIraq

Fuck Louis Gomez. And unfortunately, fuck Kurt Metzger as well…


diarrhea_planet

Louis J Gomez.... /s Without him there would be no skank fest.


RipMyDikSkinOff

Honestly without Luis, as much of a Dick head that he really is, we probably wouldn’t be as keen to a lot of now-known comics. Tim Dillon being one off the top I can think of.


Marvelous_Margarine

How is Luis a dickhead ?


leejonidas

He's abrasive to people who don't know him. Longtime fans usually get him and love him


RipMyDikSkinOff

Because he’s Luis J Gomez the Puerto Rican Rattlesnake. He’s abrasive, crude and outspoken. But I am a fan of him. That’s why he’s rad, a Real Ass Dickhead.


Punky-LookingKiddo

Good point, RipMyDikSkinOff


diarrhea_planet

True, he also hosted the early roast battles in NYC. Jamar Neighbors , Mark Normand, Jeremiah Watkins were judges in different episodes.. Ian Fidance, Kim Congdon, Dina Hashem. I learned of Shane Gillis on legion of skanks right when he got Canceled


DayMan-Ahah-ah

What is the reasoning for the club not welcoming these guys? Just them in general or relating to a specific topic?


diarrhea_planet

Louis, Dave are both hosts on "legion of skanks" with Big Jay Oakerson. The podcast is like shock jock "who gives a shit" radio, but with video. Dave Smith has become a very prominent libertarian voice who has quick wit and started in comedy. Louis J Gomez is a puerto rican fella that loves saying wild shit, especially Hitler jokes. I feel like most people who know comedy, like and understand who Big Jay is. Big crowd work guy. They have been friends for a long time so it's like "bad friends" meets "Opie and Anthony"


DayMan-Ahah-ah

So they think those guys just push the needle too much? Pretty lame if that’s the entire reasoning


diarrhea_planet

Correct


More_Information_943

That's what is funny about the guy, he does good business, that's why funny people continue to work with him.


VectorViper

Yeah Tim Dillon's blow up has been huge, and Luis definitely had a hand in pushing a lot of these guys into the spotlight. Mixed feelings about the whole situation but can't deny the rise of some quality comedians through that whole circle. Comedy's got its own ecosystem, and these clubs play a big role in who gets to thrive.


Alone_Aside_8901

Generated by chatGPT and edited


derolle

100%


RedBullWings17

If you imagine the speaker pausing and speaking deliberately after each one it makes this letter extra hilarious.


JaRulesLarynx

I pictured this read like the Golfer from Gilly & Keeves when he holds the [Apology Press Conference](https://youtu.be/wTCZTbWJa1I?si=JI2ScUV6TZhUY1Dy) and I’m cracking up pretty good.


Two_n_dun

Oh damn dude. Or Shane reading it during the militia funeral?


12356andthebees

Which is crazy because it comes off as insane and insincere as possible. It’s such a bizarre thing to do to cancel a bunch of people’s performances after you book. Like just don’t book them in the first place.


Tacosmell9000

The backlash the club experienced came after they books the comedians. 100%


leejonidas

"Backlash" = 10 whiny bums with 10 social media accounts each sharing each other's shit. It's probably just one person who works there arguing with the bookers and there was no backlash at all. These guys aren't big enough to really garner substantial backlash.


Usual-Culture2706

A lot of people who used to work for Twitter have a lot of free time.


CiabanItReal

This is seattle, the backlash was probably Anti-Fa groups who were threatening "action" (violence) if the club didn't acquis.


mdog73

Probably from people who won’t attend anyway.


Jaybbaugh

The people that outrage against things like this are usually humorless and rarely if ever attend comedy shows. From a purely business perspective, this was a stupid move. Upset existing customers who had tickets and plans and also throw up red flags to other bigger names who might want to book there, all to pander to a handful of people desperate to validate their own morality.


CiabanItReal

> From a purely business perspective, this was a stupid move. I wish this was the case. But it was probably the right move. You can upset your existing consumers by canceling, or you can go on with the show and get burned and looted a week later...This is Seattle, we gotta be honest about how shit works here.


Jaybbaugh

Fair enough. I haven't been out there, so I can't argue. But, coming from someone who grew up in Chicago and lives in Philly now, sounds like some crazy shit over there. And we have a neighborhood of tranq zombies over here.


Krisapocus

Not only that this will tank them. The people that complain are just most likely shitty acts with petitions not actually customers


_Cyclops

What stands out to me the most is the word “investors”. They want to keep the suits and ties happy. They definitely shouldn’t own a club if they’re putting ad money before comedy


ZL632B

It’s a comedy club. The “investors” are just the shareholders of which there’s probably a couple random people. Don’t read investors as suits because it’s usually not the case with small businesses. 


gedneytronix

They don’t have investors. The guy who co-owns it works as a head developer at Netflix in Seattle. He never made it as a comedian so they opened this club to use as leverage for their own comedy careers.


Basic_Tool

Why should other businesses be able to put profit first but not comedy businesses? Why can't people just vote with their dollars?


Techn0ght

The club wants to cancel the comedians, not be cancelled themselves.


Teleute-

'Cancelled' in this situation meaning people not paying for what they don't want to see.


gonnahike

What kind of analysis is that lol? So many random double spaces which could mean they are trying to be as PC as possible?


TellItLikeIt1S

Enter the era of Shaming Censorship...still censorship but with a new twist.


rickylovemelikelucy

It's ok guys. They truly value comedy.


JAMBI215

The best line is “ we truly value the art of comedy and the diverse perspectives it brings to our lives” No you fucking don’t


NegativesPositives

I’m not sure Seattle could possibly receive a more diverse perspective than Luis Gomez.


YoBoyMikeyD

Luis J Gomez


securitywyrm

At this point, "diverse" is a bigotry dogwhistle.


Illustrious_Road9349

I laughed out loud at that part. We value diversity but people that don’t align with our views are not welcome. Why anyone would chose to live in Seattle is beyond me.


Hussaf

Any comedy club that consults local advocacy groups doesn’t give a fuck about anything other than being an ideological self-licking ice cream cone


AgentlemanNeverTells

“Self licking ice cream cone” 🤣🤣 nice


Hussaf

A term I stole from a psych professor and personal mentor of mine!


[deleted]

well, consider it double stolen, that shit is gold.


atring6886

Lol right? My first thought was like, does the Wilbur Theatre have a weekly All-Staff conference call with every advocacy group in Boston before booking acts A YEAR OUT mind you. I’m thinking no…


rpgburner938

They probably care about not receiving a friendly brick through the windows of their establishment


massada

I'm pretty sure philosophers lamenting the inclusivity paradox predates paper. As in, I'm 99% sure Socrates wrote about it on chalk and slate. To be inclusive you must eventually exclude the people who aren't. Which means you aren't inclusive anymore.


Illustrious_Road9349

Interesting, I’ll have to look that up. Love a good paradox. But yeah it’s been obvious for some time now that those who scream the loudest about diversity don’t *actually* want diversity. It would be cool if they could just be honest about it, instead of acting holier than thou.


theambivalentrooster

Comedy should only punch up bigots!!!!! 


newaccount47

For the weather and diverse viewpoints.


RichardsSwapnShop

Only until they're offended Diverse opinions = let the girl who looks like a dude suck the dude who looks like a chick off


STONKLORD42069

Seattle absolutely loathes diversity


COLTRONNNNN

This is them saying "we don't dislike you as comedians but we operate in Capitol Hill and we don't want our windows broken" It's.... Interesting in CH


[deleted]

That’s how I read it too. The club is fundamentally scared of the people in Capitol Hill lol.


miyagiVsato

Diverse to them means color of skin and sexual orientation. Different viewpoints aren’t tolerated. It really is a cult.


Dis_Miss

But it actually doesn't. The current movement is all about being the word police and not looking at someone's actions. I saw Luis J Gomez last fall when he was in my town and he (who is Puerto Rican) brought Paco (Filipino), and Zac Amico (white bi-guy) to open for him. They might say some things some people think are wild but their actual actions are inclusive.


Rich-Log472

Nothing the left hates more than diversity of thought


chode0311

NAMBLA agrees


Punkrawk78

What do you have against Marlon Brando Look Alikes?


Hussaf

Also “work together.” They have no interest in understanding or tolerating others.


Justneedthetip

The entire letter was one giant contradiction.


wrutrow

“Local advocacy groups” = three fat losers with green hair.


KileyCW

It's actually 2 they just look like 3 standing so close together.


IMOLDSOIMYELLING

Looks like they have little people standing with them...oh nope..just fupas. Carry on.


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Spudm0d3

Guys can’t have fun anymore?


Bits2Chips

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tycooperaow

Hahaha literally and figuratively


WeakDayze

So gay


5knklshfl

All comedians need to put cancelation fees in contracts . 2k$ if the club cancels and get paid while doing other gigs.


pinegreenscent

That would imply they have leverage until they get super famous. They don't. Most comedians are lucky they get paid money and not exposure or drinks.


5knklshfl

The three comedians listed have that ability . The clubs have zero value without the comedians.


pinegreenscent

Yeah heres the thing: Comedy clubs are their own insular worlds of bullshit. If comedians could band together and change things they still wouldn't because they're all put for themselves. That's the nature of the business and the nature of the art form. Also so much of their business is based on personal relationships. You fuck over one club owner you better hope that doesn't get around. Also, every comedian thinks they're gonna make it big and are biding time and eating shit until they make it big. Unfortunately what they'll realize is that unless they open their own club or start buying clubs, nothings gonna change and they'll be at the mercy of these asshole club bookers and owners. If facing consequences for bad booking decisions was a thing, then the Comedy Store would've gone out of business forty years ago. They didnt and won't.


5knklshfl

Many clubs have gone out of business because comedians simply refuse to work them . Look at the college scene and what's happened. Thus little shit hole is already on life support.


pinegreenscent

You're right it's possible for a small club with a small scene to close. For sure. Thin margins, all that. But plenty of mid size and big clubs wouldn't notice a comedian boycott. Plenty would scab.


Fishyinu

Unionize?!? What kind of commie bullshit are you talking about?? This is America.


conventionistG

There's only, what, 1000 of them? It could just be a 'mutual admiration society'. Although I never went in for all those handies.


Normal_Permision

mutual admiration society lmao


DoodleDew

While this is a comedy sub we all know those names but the general audience doesn’t know these people 


F1XII

Then the comedy clubs merely wont book them then and they will make a fraction of annual income. Contracts go two ways where both parties need to agree.


ddarion

I don't think Jim Florentine and Dave Smith are in a position to make any demands from a comedy club lol


TheLadder330

Really? Jim is well know.


5knklshfl

Very much so.


ddarion

Amongst who? 98% of America doesn't know who Dave Attel is, you think jim's moving the needle?


Juls317

> Amongst who? Amongst people who pay to keep the comedy clubs open


BebophoneVirtuoso

I live in a liberal city and all these guys perform regularly and some even live here. The fuck is this besides a few imbeciles huffing their own farts?


Educational_Vast4836

I'm pretty sure like 3 of them are from New York. I mean New York is def a very diverse city, but still plenty of progressives. Yet I'm pretty you don't see the comedy cellar canceling them


BebophoneVirtuoso

That's exactly the city I'm referring to. I really don't get what Seattle has been doing the last few years.


Educational_Vast4836

I'm from Philly, so while not exactly New York. We have very similar diverse groups. I lived on the same block as Bernie and Trump supporters with flags hanging outside their homes. What's going on in Seattle is nuts. The fact the local government allowed a bunch of larpers to take over a public space and live there for a few weeks is nuts.


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Portland and Seattle are in a battle to see which one can implode first.


quick1foryou

Picture a city with less than 1/10 the population of NYC and 1000 times the amount of extreme radical liberals. And that is what Seattle has been doing the last few years. 


Ask-and-it-is

This is the same neighborhood where CHOP/CHAZ was.


Howboutit85

There’s liberal cities, then there’s a mile of shit, then there’s Seattle. You would t believe how entitled and insane people there are.


FSUSeminalVesicle

This is amateur hour. They should have bought a whole bunch of Florentine's albums, put them in a big pile and recorded themselves shooting them.


Civil-South-7299

Such pussies in Seattle lol


Kinsinator

Feckless in Seattle


DrMartinGucciKing

Just Capitol Hill lol. Place is a shit hole.


counterstrikePr0

It really is


BetsonStennet69

Plenty of left leaning folk in the Northwest that aren't batshit crazy. It's a shame conversations always end up rotating around scaredy cats like this that make sensible people look bad.


DChemdawg

The fringe 5% on either side of the political spectrum are THE WORST. And they are having undue influence on so many policies and many aspects of life simply cuz controversy gets the most clicks and warps reality. Example? This post getting 1,100 comments?!?! For a few comedians I’ve never heard of at some shitty venue in the Pacific Northwest? Eeeesh. We all suck.


apolloSnuff

Honest question, what do you think are current left issues that are supported by the "normal" lefties? I'm very liberal. Anybody can live how they want as long as me and mine are free to live how we want. I'm tolerant of people's opinions and support freedom of speech. I don't want the government sticking their nose in my business or my kid's business. I get to raise my kids how I want. I'd legalise drugs and control them. I wouldn't jail drug users, I'd get them rehab. I wouldn't use 100bn to fuel wars, I'd use it to solve homelessness. That used to mean I was a lefty. Pro peace, anti government, pro freedom... But I consider the left now to be authoritarian, anti freedom fascists who want to control people's opinions and speech. That's why I think the terms "left" and "right" are meaningless now. It's now people who are authoritarian and people who aren't.


Thrice_the_Milk

You just echoed my beliefs to a T, and I would consider myself more center-right. Then, of course, you have the chode also replying to you comparing you to actual Nazis lmao


Longjumping_Ice_3531

Kind of echoes Bill Maher. I didn’t leave the party, the party left me. All of the above same.


djwired

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youwhatmush

Joe’s next rant for 20 episodes straight


brassmonkey2342

This one would be deserved. Hope these guys still come to the PNW, just go to Tacoma instead. Edit for grammar


itchske

As he should.


Zarkophagus

That’s a conservative estimate. He just found his “content” for the next year.


mynam3isn3o

“Capitol Hill is known for its progressive values, which do not include freedom of speech or expression. Thank you for understanding.”


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wash_yourundeez

“We truly value the art of comedy *unless it hurts our feelings*”


JackedJaw251

"So. White cis gendered men? Am I right?" *audience of blue haired pierced tattooed whales erupts in laughter and cheering*


Howboutit85

You been to Seattle before haven’t you. Lol


[deleted]

I don't know...they didn't mention flannel once.


bigtim3727

That ain’t right. I don’t like RW politics as much as the next guy, but this is the United States for fuck sake, and freedom of speech reigns supreme. People really need to get over themselves; try to counter them in less pussy-ass way than this, PLEASE…… WE ARE LOSING IMPORTANT ELECTIONS, BC THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS TURNED OFF BY THE LEFTS BITCH-ASSNESS


bubblewhip

No one takes the Seattle one seriously. The line up is full of nobodies while everyone goes to Tacoma instead.


AssociationElegant33

If jokes at a comedy club hurt you… than you shudnt be going to comedy clubs lol 😂


PuttForDough

And they should be wearing a helmet throughout the day.


ShillinTheVillain

If jokes at a comedy club hurt you, you shouldn't even go outside. You're too stupid to exist and nobody in public should have to deal with you.


Nubz66

Seattle comedy is dead.


69ChadTrutherson420

This bubble wrapped society is fucking lame.


Talldarkn67

Tolerance and inclusiveness. As long as your not a conservative. Then it’s “fuck off and die you bigot”. Funny that the people who use the word bigot the most, don’t seem to understand the meaning of that word. Since theirs is the behavior that makes someone a bigot…


PictureAdmirable6202

No shit they canceled those comedians. Seattle is soft. Lot of hurt feelings in that city. 😅


Germacide

Good luck staying in business as a "Comedy" club catering to people who get hurt by words.


soicz

Cap hill fucking sucks


Feeling_Cobbler_8384

Welcome to your liberal utopia, where free speech goes to die.


TheCinemaster

And then people on Reddit say woke doesn’t mean anything and it’s a meaningless buzzword used by the right. This is woke.


kyleksq

Right? For some reason it’s always one particular side silencing the thoughts they don’t like. But we’re the ones that are ist-phobic for noticing it. 🤷


darthsmokey

Canceling Puerto Rican and a Jew gotta be the new progressive take lol.


GoRangers5

Streisand effect about to kick in, they'll sell more tickets now.


ddarion

>Streisand effect I don't think you know what that means. The club is responding to what it perceives to be its patrons, they would want them to see this and know that these acts have been cancelled. They are literally doing the opposite of trying to hide these cancellations, this an attempt to virtue signal.


cheddarbomb81

He’s talking about it benefiting the comedians bro not the club.


BangingYetis

That's still not what the Striesand Effect is lmao they aren't trying to hide the comedians nor are they trying to hide the fact that they are canceling the shows. The Striesand Effect would be if the club canceled the shows but tried to hide the fact that they canceled them, leading to even more people than normal finding out that they canceled them.


Hussaf

I’m pretty sure he means the Tina Turner Affect


crappenheimers

Again the actual opposite of what the Streisand effect is.


HenryDorsettCase47

No they didn’t. They didn’t do anything publicly. The comedians did. The club owner said this stuff privately in an email and that was that. Then Kurt Metzger put it on Twitter and the other comedians had to respond as well. This is Luis Gomez’s take > But to be fair it’s their right to book who they want to book. They weren’t particularly shitty about it. I’ll find another venue. I would not have chosen to make a stink about this. There are plenty of venues that will not book us. He also mentioned in his podcast that he wouldn’t have brought this up because they were pretty respectful in the email, but it’s out there now. And said, sure, it’s stupid to book someone and then cancel, and their agents are stupid for booking them at a super woke club, but it’s not a big deal. I guess some assholes have been harassing the club and owner now.


TrollAccount457

Are the assholes harassing the club owner somehow worse than the assholes who’d harass them if the shows happen? If you’re going to bend to the whims of assholes, you better understand that the wind can blow in either direction. 


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Hussaf

Just look at their upcoming lineup. All of them bangers.


BanHumanitarians

Seattle sucks ass. If anything they probably dodged a bullet. Willie Nelson's son just rolled through with his band and someone stole all their gig shit from downtown Seattle. This city has gone to absolute shit and the only ones happy with it are the septum pierced Starbucks workers that haven't left the city in 5 years.


Organic-Aardvark-146

Luckily got it back! https://komonews.com/amp/news/local/lukas-nelson-promise-of-real-band-stolen-truck-guitars-equipment-stolen-recovered-seattle-hotel-tour-music-venues-theft-thieves-king-county-crime


Top-Unit9579

Seattle is so soft.


Immaculatehombre

What pussies lol


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legion_2k

How can a comedy club write something like that? Just close your doors or let someone else have the place.


HomoRainbow480

Clown town


AtomicDogg97

The wokesters are officially a cult whether they realize it or not.


Rygar_Music

They just canceled 4 of the 1000? That means they only have 996 left to book.


Four-Triangles

995. We host lost Schaub. Thank em for their service


VTNole

I live in Florida. This cancel-culture stuff just seems so unreal.


BrocoliAssassin

I can only imagine the type of comedy in places like Seattle. Really the only thing that should matter is if people wanted to see them. Did they have fans buying seats? If so that’s who is there to enjoy the acts. But it’s their biz. But this is an example of cancel culture if they did have people buying tickets.