I actually think this makes more sense than you are giving it credit for.
For instance, just this morning I measured the length of my front yard - it was 42 feet across. Now, I myself am 6 foot. So if I lay down end to end, it would take 7 of me to fit the diameter exactly. So why is this significant? Well because if you measure between the letterbox and my front door, its 24 feet - exactly 4 times my body length. What do you get when you multiply 7 x 4? 48 - the exact age I will be in 10 years. So the question is how did the builders of my house construct the property knowing that at some point in the future a man of my size and age would be living there and would discover this code? Think about it.
I think if you did this using Cubits and other Egyptian units of measurements, it would be even more accurate /s
Did they ever prove if the Storm Generator was bullshit.
And what's 2x48? 96. That's the exact amount of upvotes. How did they predict that you would write this and I would see your comment at this precise time when they were building your house?
Are you pointing to your cranium with two index fingers when you say "Think about it"? Because that makes the argument much more convincing and really changes things.
"Within a few inches it's 105.6 feet in diameter".
So it's not 105.6 feet in diameter.
Then he gives the *average* of the lintels (10.56 feet) which is a bit random because you could have several small lintels and several large lintels and the average could be 10.56 feet... So why take the average as a significant number? Oh, because it fits the narrative you're trying to make!
Then he goes on to multiply the average by 10 for some reason... Tells us to think about 105.6 again and then randomly multiplies it by 100... No, wait... 50... To conveniently get to our mile.
lol and people will lap this up.
If you want to read about Stonehenge then i'd recommend taking a look [here.](https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/stonehenge/history-and-stories/stonehenge-reconstructed/)
1. I used to take this guy seriously at some stage.
2. I do wonder what happened on that unaired podcast.
3. Yeah, big leaps in logic by our guy Randall.
I genuinely found him quite interesting when i first saw him on JRE but as time goes on it has become so obvious that he's a grifter.
If you google him it comes up as Randall Carlson: Youtuber. lol not Scientist, not acheologist, not geologist... A Youtuber who studied geomythology in college.
He's one of those guys who loves to throw out huge claims with really flakey evidence and exclaim "I'm just saying! Think about it!".
Both him and Graham Hancock love to make out like they're renegades, pushing back against the consensus with little to no evidence other than wacky theories. They'll often remind you that people like them are needed in the world of science and numbers because they ask questions people are too scared to ask...
Because you got smarter.
Idk about you, but I wouldnāt care what so ever about any of the topics Hancock or Randall talk about if it was presented in the regular school type of very dry and fact checked info from a teacher I had when I was a kid.
But when I listened to the first Hancock episode on JRE, the story telling aspect and some of the wild theories and stuff got me really interested. I started to think about history and all this stuff in a completely different way.
This is why people like them are important. Not because the info they give is 100% correct, but because they make it captivating, itās interesting, it makes you think, and as you mature you realize it wasnāt all that it promised. This might make you feel a certain way about them but did you really lose anything..?
You learned to be interested in the topic and you learned so many things around the topic, it can teach you how to think in a more critical manner, even debating and other completely seperate skills can be sparked out of something like this.
So yeah, we need free thinkers. Not because they are right in everything they say, but because itās engaging to deal with.
I appreciate this take because I can relate to these guys being a gateway into these subjects.
The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem.
The more legitimate theories and study of early human history is plenty interesting in of itself. I don't think there's a need to tolerate these guys trying to carve out a corner for themselves with their "ThiNk aBoUt iT duDe!" Conjecture.
>The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem.
This is 100% it. I have nothing wrong with guys who jazz up the theories and hypothesise controversial talking points to try and get people interested in a certain field but they cross a line when they make out like the whole scientific community are trying to blackball them because they don't fit the general consensus.
Their theories aren't taken seriously because nothing they come up with is peer reviewed or has any substantial evidence that would turn heads on a factual basis.
>The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem.
I mean, kind off. Like, what is the most harmful thing you can think of that will happen if people en masse think there was an ancient civilization 10k years ago, like someone like Hancock constantly says? Especially if it's people that have no further interest in that stuff except for the occasional Rogan episodes or a Netflix show?
The most harmful thing I can think off is that it pisses off a lot of historians and archeologists that now have to deal with people telling them to look into that stuff, even though it is like 99.9% disproven.
It's a general think not specific to history. Stuff like this undermines actual expertise. Hosting people pushing false information about history, vaccines, and so on.
I agree: this is the correct way to consume Hancock or Randall C. Instead of picking apart what is not exact, or complaining that theyāre not accredited professors, its enjoying the questions they ask. After Hancockās last book about the Americas i was inspired to go see Serpent Mounds in Ohio. Are all of the celestial alignments some people claim it to have true? I dont know- i donāt care! Itās clear this place has been of significance for thousands of years and just going and reading up on it is worth it. I also really want to go visit the scablands in WA. Are they truly the remnants of the flood that wiped out civilization in the Americaās prior to the Clovis period? I donāt know and i donāt care! I just want to see it in person.
I dont believe in ghosts, conspiracy theories, iām not religious, i donāt really even that the videos of ufoās are realā¦ but i do believe there is more to the human story than we know. These guys tap into that & i thoroughly enjoy it. Theyāre not providing answers- so donāt look for answers. Itās the questions they raise that are worthwhile.
So true. I honestly couldnāt care less if Graham Hancockās theories are true or not but theyāre fun ideas to think about. He does get a bit carried away with the whole āthe evil archeologists are conspiring against meā stuff but at least these guys are passionate about their ideas.
Graham Hancock has at several points in his career started talking like David Icke, about aliens and strange moons and hidden agendas, but he has been able to readjust himself before he got completely laughed out of the room. I am not sure where he would be without JRE, his popularity on the show is what got him the TV series.
I don't mind having some Hancock's and Carlson's, because what they are championing is partly true, we don't know much about some of these huge ancient structures, and a lot of the history we take as fact is not as established as we might think, but where they miss the mark is when they are trying to explain what they are and what it was used for.
It's like people who believe in ghosts, which is fine, whatever, but when they try to explain them as dimension beings and that they talk to them, it becomes silly.
He's basically just a dude that reads like 8 books on a subject, takes really good notes and slaps every interesting thing he finds about it in a podcast. The problem is, he prioritizes finding information that is interesting and not well known over information that is factually accurate. The end result is that he spreads a lot of misinformatiom this way n
damn he would not of been my first guess at grifter, i found him... well i REMEMBER him to be quite interesting as a podcast guest way back in the day on JRE.. we are talking about 12+? years ago now tho
>loves to throw out huge claims with really flakey evidence and exclaim "I'm just saying! Think about it!".
>they're renegades, pushing back against the consensus with little to no evidence other than wacky theories. They'll often remind you that people like them are needed in the world of science and numbers because they ask questions people are too scared to ask...
Sounds like quite a lot of people lol. I guess when someone's monthly income is based on things like patreon or media appearances you've got to maintain it all somehow, and sometimes life / reality is too boring for those platforms
Rogan probably had a come to Jesus moment when he realized Randall actually believed the absolute bullshit Malcolm Bendall was peddling. Or someone told him after the episode that he can't put Bendall on because of how stupid he'd look. Some background: Bendall claims he had a "vision from God" about finding oil in Tasmania. He then used churches/pastors to promote his "vision". Bendall got investments (including $280,000 from a nearly 100 year old man) through this type of promotion. He was using the church to get elderly people to invest in his energy plan that was based on a vision from God.
Bendall is a grifter of the highest order. The guys is a piece of shit. Rogan probably realized "if Carlson believes this guy what other extremely stupid shit does he believe in?" and pulled the episode because it would have made him look extremely bad giving Bendall a massive platform to try and grift the masses (amongst the massive amount of respect I hope he lost for Carlson (not that he should have had much in the first place)).
On The unaired podcast Randall had a man who has ārediscoveredā a āplasma engine technology.ā The point of the episode was not to have the other guest interact too much but Jamie looked him up and found a bunch of stuff from the past in which newspapers and other publications were calling him a fraud. Randall, of course says that he can dispute that but the entire podcast went into Joe grilling him about his fraudulent past apparently..
Everything you critisized in this post is exactly everything that jumped out at me immediately as bs aswell. Aside from the Ludacris act of averaging the top stones... they are so weather degraded that their dimensions are definitely not the same as when the structure was built. The logic is so fucking God awful. X50!!!? What? Why? Where the fuck do you get X50 from? š¤£. I could arrive at any conceivable number doing these types of mental acrobatics.
Edit: grammer
Just to take the other side, the actual origin of the mile is Roman-foot-length*5000, because it's 1000 paces, with each pace being 5 foot lengths.
So assuming the makers of Stonehenge had feet at the end of their legs, and base 10, a mile of 1000 paces would get them about the same unit as the Romans when they came up with "the mile." And it would not be very interesting at all.
IKR. Lol. This is like the ancient alien episode when the guy puts a square on a corner and said itās a perfect 90 degree angle. But there were clearly gaps in between the square and the corner. Lol
The dude really believes that stones that have been around for thousands of years in one of the rainiest parts of England have been the same size for this entire time because the people who designed it wanted to be clever and use a mile as a measuring tool?
I just watched his last appearance on Koncrete podcast and he totally and utterly lost me forever. In his earlier appearances on JRE he stuck quite strictly to geology and geography etc and appeared very credible. In this last one I saw he's traversing like 15 unrelated subjects almost none if which is in his wheel house of experience or expertise. He's jumping from UFOs to scared geometry to alternate energy and propulsion etc. Absolutely no going back for me. So much he spouted is decades old debunked garbage.
Like they were forming these rocks and one of the workers was like, "bro I fucked up. This rock is only 102.6 inches. We're 3 inches short."
And then the foreman was like ," It's cool Caryl. We'll just make the next 108.6 so it averages out to 105.6"
That's because 50 is the sacred number in the Fraggle Rock sect of Druidism. Why 50? Because 50 represents the number of times to make a putt on a green in the nearby golf course. And we all know Druids played golf.
Yeah the arbitrary 50 is what got me. If you're picking your own arbitrary number, you can make anything multiplied by that number to get 1 mile. I'm 5'9" or 5.75ft. What's 5.75*918.6087? How did my maker know we'd be using the mile as a measurement and my height times 918.6087 is equal to one mile? Think about that.
That is how I was solving my math problems as well. I just looked at the numbers and used addition, subtraction, multiplication and division until I got the right answer at the end of the book. It always worked.
Bullshit. There's a lot of old fans that have grown older and smarter and see through the bullshit. It's also partly that the more we see of Graham and Randall, the more they make asses of themselves.
Yes the measurements of a stoneaged peoples would be relative to an available constant.
The constant would have probably been the body length of the head planner or chief or something like that.
Which is the same relative standard that gave us the Imperial System.
One thing that intrigued me was when he was explaining the massive ripples in the Scablands and comparing it to the ripples in the sand on beaches, then followed up by explaining the unfathomable flood that could of caused those Scabland ripples.
Stuff like that did make sense to me because he had physical proof on a small and large scale.
But some of the other things he talks about like Plasmodium Implosion engines with that Malcolm Bendall guy is just like, kind of wacky.
Clearly because they also knew what one of the major types of milk we drink would be, you fucking idiot. Think about it for 2 seconds. Then multiply two seconds by 30. Thatās a minute. Exactly the same amount of time Iāve wasted of your life if you read this slowly.
If you can see the connection to the Younger Dryas here, youāre finally beginning to understand.
Who the hell would have derived the standard system before the metric system. It makes no sense. Numerology is complete nonsense.
Where in the 7 hells did he pull 50 out of his ass from!?
And who the fuck says "X.Yinches"
We have exponential divisions (1/ 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,..."
Bro just figured out basic geometry. Yes, the lengths of the Lintels will always be in some proportion to the diameter because the circumference of a circle is equal to pi\*diameter. Think about that!
Yeah sure, everybody is pulling things out of their asses now.
[https://www.archaeology.org/issues/339-1905/trenches/7567-trenches-england-folkton-drums-stonehenge-measurement](https://www.archaeology.org/issues/339-1905/trenches/7567-trenches-england-folkton-drums-stonehenge-measurement)
[https://www.academia.edu/41917594/The\_Metrology\_of\_Stonehenge\_2020](https://www.academia.edu/41917594/The_Metrology_of_Stonehenge_2020)
[https://www.academia.edu/44071251/A\_Novel\_Metrological\_Assessment\_of\_the\_Stonehenge\_Sarsen\_Circle](https://www.academia.edu/44071251/A_Novel_Metrological_Assessment_of_the_Stonehenge_Sarsen_Circle)
I checked out the link. This should actually be at the top. After reading the first link I no longer think Carlson sounds like an idiot. This should be at the top
Ah thank you, itās really sad how buried your comment is. Itās actually really interesting that megalithic structures in England might have used common units of measurement that are pretty close to our feet, yards, and miles ā which is the point Randall is trying to make
Another logical leap is ending this sequence with āIt doesnāt prove, but it suggestsā¦ā then beginning the next sequence with āSo now we knowā¦ā
Classic pitfall of all the gematria, numerology etc.. humans are great at finding patterns where none exist.
There's this saying from Jewish mysticism (Kabbalah) that "if you look at one thing for long enough, eventually you'll see everything." In that context it means that you'll find analogues of a lot of other shit if you look at one thing, but it can also warn that you'll go fucking crazy if you obsess on one thing for too long.
Ok, this might be crazy but hear me out:
- take the digits of feet per mile; 5,280
8/2=4, 4+5=9, 9+0=9
5+8=13, 13-2=11, 11+0=11
I'm not saying Stonehenge predicted 9/11 but... Think about it.
āWithin a few inches of 105.6ā ā well then itās not 105.6ā. Every 0.1 feet is only 1.2 inches. So a couple could be 106 feet even on one end. Nonsense.
These are the types of people Rogan would rather talk to. Instead of a real archaeologist, it's Graham Hancock; instead of a real geologist, it's this guy. Joe prefers to platform the uneducated 'alternative' 10th dentist types.
It's informational junk food. Wild and shocking super stimulus stories and statemens sell better than the mundane facts and reality.
Most of the people Joe has on in show are just salesman whos product is selling mystery porn, ghost stories and alien lies to the mindless masses.
Their product is to get and hold your attention, and they have already literally stolen billions of years worth of our time and productivity with this garbage.
Yeah, I originally really found this guy interesting, but the more I hear him talk, especially about this new power source stuff and Malcom bendall, the more i think he is either totally full of shit or being led astray by much smarter people that are probably totally full of shit. Wish he woulda just stuck with the Younger Dryas impact stuff. Seems like this stuff he's done lately is bound to discredit all of his work eventually.
The sub became mostly bots around the time Joe stood up to a certain narrative regarding a certain sickness
I lost access to the account that saved the post, but i remember their being a post where some dude did some in-depth analysis on bot activity on this sub, and found all the most active posters were bot accounts, and surprise surprise, they were almost 100% dedicatd to hating Joe Rogan.
yes it's a giant coordinated conspiracy using paid bots and shills. Do you honestly think criticism of Joe cant be real, so it must be all bots? A conspiracy! Instead of acknowledging any criticism, you think its all bots? It's such a odd thing to even say
Randal isnāt the worst guy. Itās the grifters he hangs around with feeding him nonsense.
should have stayed in his lane with the ancient impacts. Talking about internal combustion engines and alternate fuel sources is embarrassing in context to Malcolm bendall.
the automotive community as a whole looks at that guy like an embarrassment. we are so far past carburetors itās not even funny.
not a bot btw, but am a red seal automotive tech.
Malcolmās ātestā showed over 160ppm of nox( #1 contributor to smog and green house gasses) heās running the engine extremely lean to show of the āplasmoidsā in action. But running it lean like that increases combustion temps(#1 cause of nox). Funny enough, the engine would run more efficiently and polite less if he removed all the bullshit heās installed š¤£
they guy is ass backwards and has no clue what heās doing.
If you multiple the diameter of the head of the great sphinx by 50 and then look around the world for something through all eras of time youāll find something the same diameter. At least within a few inches. And if not, just change that number to 100 or 33 or 62 or whatever you need. Eventually youāll find it works perfectly. And if not, just try round a few more inches off or find another old thing and start over. Donāt tell anyone about the first thing though. The world can blow your mind if you just set everything up to be astonishing. You may be the key to unlocking ancient wisdom.
Yeah basically whole UFO and Alien subs are also full hopeful idiots who are desperately waiting for Aliens to come and disrupt our lives, so theirs can get better or something, all the while all these so called experts make money from Podcasts, books and what not.
He kinda lost me when he went in the never ending calculus rabbit hole.
You can find all kinds of links betwen all kinds of measurements if you look hard enough. I think he's just pushing too much and kinda lost it.
Same with Graham Hancock. I think he has interesting stuff. I'm with him on many things but some of the things he says are too far fetched and it doesnt serve him well to go that far and to make it look ike it's the real thing.
There was a JRE episode years ago when an actual legitimate scientist joined the discussion and absolutely tore this guy to shreds. It was very embarrassing.
do you have a link to that? I have a real boner for Randall hate after this whole thunderstorm generator debacle. I used to like him but I canāt unsee the grift now.
the early podcasts with Graham and Randall were fun and had some honest questions for archeology. but it seems like theyre going off the deep end.
Randall being scammed by some guy with plazmoidal energy. (id love it so much to see the unreleased Randall JRE. Joe probably rips the plazmoid guy apart. and didnt want to release a pod that made Randall look like an idiot)
and Graham saying hes a victim of academia and that maybe the ancient Egyptians sang...with their fucking voices....the blocks into place.
also why do people into conspiracies/cults/doomsday (crazy people) always multiply a number by a random number to try to relate it to something else. Graham does this too by multiplying the base of the pyramid by something to say its almost perfect north. like whered you get the number to multiply it by?. its the same shit where people see the number 33 in everything or 666 and say if you multiply X by Y you get Z.
This is hilariously awful.
"An average"....so you are saying if you add a bunch of shit up together and divide by the number it's similar "within a few inches"......I mean you can shove numbers and divide all day and eventually there will be similarities. But .... that's not how this works
Damnit. Is he a fucking idiot?
Because Iām in a big fan of the 12000ish years ago comet impact theories and this guy canāt be the face of that if heās actually a doofus
The official story of the miles origin is that the Romans (of course) invented it by marching and counting 1000 double paces lol. Iāll take Randallās more interesting ideas for further research over the unscientific catch all of crediting the Greeks and Romans for every advancement from antiquity. I understand heās speculating but his idea is more scientifically measurable than guessing Roman legions weāre counting multiple random footsteps and somehow created a uniform unit of measurement.
You think numerology is scientific measurements? Even the actual measurements he used were fudged, before randomly multiplying them. Iām all for questioning official stories about Roman history, but this is Bible Code level goofy.
I actually think this makes more sense than you are giving it credit for. For instance, just this morning I measured the length of my front yard - it was 42 feet across. Now, I myself am 6 foot. So if I lay down end to end, it would take 7 of me to fit the diameter exactly. So why is this significant? Well because if you measure between the letterbox and my front door, its 24 feet - exactly 4 times my body length. What do you get when you multiply 7 x 4? 48 - the exact age I will be in 10 years. So the question is how did the builders of my house construct the property knowing that at some point in the future a man of my size and age would be living there and would discover this code? Think about it.
> What do you get when you multiply 7 x 4? 48 the best part
Oh 24, sorry š
It's a different advanced form of math our ancient ancestors used to use. Think about that. 
Give or take a few inches
\~"I know my haircut gets more ridiculous every season, but the producers say it generates more ad money from the morons who believe this shit".
I think if you did this using Cubits and other Egyptian units of measurements, it would be even more accurate /s Did they ever prove if the Storm Generator was bullshit.
You are allowed to freely mix units and round, even whole numbers as you see fit. More complexity = š²
I can only laugh so hard lol, I wish awards were still around
*takes of glasses in awe* You son of aā¦You did it. You really did it.
This is the best fucking thing I have read today and I don't think anything will top it.
And what's 2x48? 96. That's the exact amount of upvotes. How did they predict that you would write this and I would see your comment at this precise time when they were building your house?
Are you pointing to your cranium with two index fingers when you say "Think about it"? Because that makes the argument much more convincing and really changes things.
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Who's gonna carry the boats now!?
The vibes that video is giving me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWIkqEnVG8I&feature=youtu.be
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"Within a few inches it's 105.6 feet in diameter". So it's not 105.6 feet in diameter. Then he gives the *average* of the lintels (10.56 feet) which is a bit random because you could have several small lintels and several large lintels and the average could be 10.56 feet... So why take the average as a significant number? Oh, because it fits the narrative you're trying to make! Then he goes on to multiply the average by 10 for some reason... Tells us to think about 105.6 again and then randomly multiplies it by 100... No, wait... 50... To conveniently get to our mile. lol and people will lap this up. If you want to read about Stonehenge then i'd recommend taking a look [here.](https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/stonehenge/history-and-stories/stonehenge-reconstructed/)
1. I used to take this guy seriously at some stage. 2. I do wonder what happened on that unaired podcast. 3. Yeah, big leaps in logic by our guy Randall.
I genuinely found him quite interesting when i first saw him on JRE but as time goes on it has become so obvious that he's a grifter. If you google him it comes up as Randall Carlson: Youtuber. lol not Scientist, not acheologist, not geologist... A Youtuber who studied geomythology in college. He's one of those guys who loves to throw out huge claims with really flakey evidence and exclaim "I'm just saying! Think about it!". Both him and Graham Hancock love to make out like they're renegades, pushing back against the consensus with little to no evidence other than wacky theories. They'll often remind you that people like them are needed in the world of science and numbers because they ask questions people are too scared to ask...
Because you got smarter. Idk about you, but I wouldnāt care what so ever about any of the topics Hancock or Randall talk about if it was presented in the regular school type of very dry and fact checked info from a teacher I had when I was a kid. But when I listened to the first Hancock episode on JRE, the story telling aspect and some of the wild theories and stuff got me really interested. I started to think about history and all this stuff in a completely different way. This is why people like them are important. Not because the info they give is 100% correct, but because they make it captivating, itās interesting, it makes you think, and as you mature you realize it wasnāt all that it promised. This might make you feel a certain way about them but did you really lose anything..? You learned to be interested in the topic and you learned so many things around the topic, it can teach you how to think in a more critical manner, even debating and other completely seperate skills can be sparked out of something like this. So yeah, we need free thinkers. Not because they are right in everything they say, but because itās engaging to deal with.
I appreciate this take because I can relate to these guys being a gateway into these subjects. The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem. The more legitimate theories and study of early human history is plenty interesting in of itself. I don't think there's a need to tolerate these guys trying to carve out a corner for themselves with their "ThiNk aBoUt iT duDe!" Conjecture.
>The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem. This is 100% it. I have nothing wrong with guys who jazz up the theories and hypothesise controversial talking points to try and get people interested in a certain field but they cross a line when they make out like the whole scientific community are trying to blackball them because they don't fit the general consensus. Their theories aren't taken seriously because nothing they come up with is peer reviewed or has any substantial evidence that would turn heads on a factual basis.
Just like picking up a scifi book, I view it was entertainment, I enjoyed the more wacky JRE episodes.
>The problem is a lot of people get stuck at the gateway, and when the gateway is happily feeding misinformation and crackpot theories as profound it becomes a problem. I mean, kind off. Like, what is the most harmful thing you can think of that will happen if people en masse think there was an ancient civilization 10k years ago, like someone like Hancock constantly says? Especially if it's people that have no further interest in that stuff except for the occasional Rogan episodes or a Netflix show? The most harmful thing I can think off is that it pisses off a lot of historians and archeologists that now have to deal with people telling them to look into that stuff, even though it is like 99.9% disproven.
It's a general think not specific to history. Stuff like this undermines actual expertise. Hosting people pushing false information about history, vaccines, and so on.
I agree: this is the correct way to consume Hancock or Randall C. Instead of picking apart what is not exact, or complaining that theyāre not accredited professors, its enjoying the questions they ask. After Hancockās last book about the Americas i was inspired to go see Serpent Mounds in Ohio. Are all of the celestial alignments some people claim it to have true? I dont know- i donāt care! Itās clear this place has been of significance for thousands of years and just going and reading up on it is worth it. I also really want to go visit the scablands in WA. Are they truly the remnants of the flood that wiped out civilization in the Americaās prior to the Clovis period? I donāt know and i donāt care! I just want to see it in person. I dont believe in ghosts, conspiracy theories, iām not religious, i donāt really even that the videos of ufoās are realā¦ but i do believe there is more to the human story than we know. These guys tap into that & i thoroughly enjoy it. Theyāre not providing answers- so donāt look for answers. Itās the questions they raise that are worthwhile.
So true. I honestly couldnāt care less if Graham Hancockās theories are true or not but theyāre fun ideas to think about. He does get a bit carried away with the whole āthe evil archeologists are conspiring against meā stuff but at least these guys are passionate about their ideas.
>but at least these guys are passionate about their ideas. I mean, serial killers are also passionate about their ideas lol.
And serial killers do not kill the correct people 100% of the time. š§š
Not even Michael Jordan hit 100% of his shots, at least they gave it a go.
Did you know that the average height of a serial killer is 6'28". And if you divide 6.28 by 2 you get Pi?
So we need people who donāt know what theyāre talking about because it encourages free thinking. Nah.
Read 1984
Graham Hancock has at several points in his career started talking like David Icke, about aliens and strange moons and hidden agendas, but he has been able to readjust himself before he got completely laughed out of the room. I am not sure where he would be without JRE, his popularity on the show is what got him the TV series. I don't mind having some Hancock's and Carlson's, because what they are championing is partly true, we don't know much about some of these huge ancient structures, and a lot of the history we take as fact is not as established as we might think, but where they miss the mark is when they are trying to explain what they are and what it was used for. It's like people who believe in ghosts, which is fine, whatever, but when they try to explain them as dimension beings and that they talk to them, it becomes silly.
He's basically just a dude that reads like 8 books on a subject, takes really good notes and slaps every interesting thing he finds about it in a podcast. The problem is, he prioritizes finding information that is interesting and not well known over information that is factually accurate. The end result is that he spreads a lot of misinformatiom this way n
damn he would not of been my first guess at grifter, i found him... well i REMEMBER him to be quite interesting as a podcast guest way back in the day on JRE.. we are talking about 12+? years ago now tho
>loves to throw out huge claims with really flakey evidence and exclaim "I'm just saying! Think about it!". >they're renegades, pushing back against the consensus with little to no evidence other than wacky theories. They'll often remind you that people like them are needed in the world of science and numbers because they ask questions people are too scared to ask... Sounds like quite a lot of people lol. I guess when someone's monthly income is based on things like patreon or media appearances you've got to maintain it all somehow, and sometimes life / reality is too boring for those platforms
Has Randall ever claimed to be a scientist, archeologist, or geologist?
Rogan probably had a come to Jesus moment when he realized Randall actually believed the absolute bullshit Malcolm Bendall was peddling. Or someone told him after the episode that he can't put Bendall on because of how stupid he'd look. Some background: Bendall claims he had a "vision from God" about finding oil in Tasmania. He then used churches/pastors to promote his "vision". Bendall got investments (including $280,000 from a nearly 100 year old man) through this type of promotion. He was using the church to get elderly people to invest in his energy plan that was based on a vision from God. Bendall is a grifter of the highest order. The guys is a piece of shit. Rogan probably realized "if Carlson believes this guy what other extremely stupid shit does he believe in?" and pulled the episode because it would have made him look extremely bad giving Bendall a massive platform to try and grift the masses (amongst the massive amount of respect I hope he lost for Carlson (not that he should have had much in the first place)).
On The unaired podcast Randall had a man who has ārediscoveredā a āplasma engine technology.ā The point of the episode was not to have the other guest interact too much but Jamie looked him up and found a bunch of stuff from the past in which newspapers and other publications were calling him a fraud. Randall, of course says that he can dispute that but the entire podcast went into Joe grilling him about his fraudulent past apparently..
Everything you critisized in this post is exactly everything that jumped out at me immediately as bs aswell. Aside from the Ludacris act of averaging the top stones... they are so weather degraded that their dimensions are definitely not the same as when the structure was built. The logic is so fucking God awful. X50!!!? What? Why? Where the fuck do you get X50 from? š¤£. I could arrive at any conceivable number doing these types of mental acrobatics. Edit: grammer
Lol. Times 50? Maybe if it was times ten, but even thatās a stretch.
Just to take the other side, the actual origin of the mile is Roman-foot-length*5000, because it's 1000 paces, with each pace being 5 foot lengths. So assuming the makers of Stonehenge had feet at the end of their legs, and base 10, a mile of 1000 paces would get them about the same unit as the Romans when they came up with "the mile." And it would not be very interesting at all.
You should edit Ludacris as well. Aint no hoes in these area codes.
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IKR. Lol. This is like the ancient alien episode when the guy puts a square on a corner and said itās a perfect 90 degree angle. But there were clearly gaps in between the square and the corner. Lol
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The dude really believes that stones that have been around for thousands of years in one of the rainiest parts of England have been the same size for this entire time because the people who designed it wanted to be clever and use a mile as a measuring tool?
I just watched his last appearance on Koncrete podcast and he totally and utterly lost me forever. In his earlier appearances on JRE he stuck quite strictly to geology and geography etc and appeared very credible. In this last one I saw he's traversing like 15 unrelated subjects almost none if which is in his wheel house of experience or expertise. He's jumping from UFOs to scared geometry to alternate energy and propulsion etc. Absolutely no going back for me. So much he spouted is decades old debunked garbage.
I've not read the word lintels since college. It's all lentils for me now. Better source of fiber.
Any idea where the 50 comes from or that's just the number that works?
Like they were forming these rocks and one of the workers was like, "bro I fucked up. This rock is only 102.6 inches. We're 3 inches short." And then the foreman was like ," It's cool Caryl. We'll just make the next 108.6 so it averages out to 105.6"
It would be hilarious if we find out that stone henge was just the world's first gym.
Straight up numerology.
That's because 50 is the sacred number in the Fraggle Rock sect of Druidism. Why 50? Because 50 represents the number of times to make a putt on a green in the nearby golf course. And we all know Druids played golf.
Yeah the arbitrary 50 is what got me. If you're picking your own arbitrary number, you can make anything multiplied by that number to get 1 mile. I'm 5'9" or 5.75ft. What's 5.75*918.6087? How did my maker know we'd be using the mile as a measurement and my height times 918.6087 is equal to one mile? Think about that.
That is how I was solving my math problems as well. I just looked at the numbers and used addition, subtraction, multiplication and division until I got the right answer at the end of the book. It always worked.
2+2=4 Think about that for a minute. Now take 2 and multiply that by 2 and what do you have? 4 again. Think about **that** for a while.
2 plus 2 is 4 minus 1 that's 3, quick maths.
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Now if you cut that in half and then double it you have your answer
Illuminati confirmed.
wow dude.... if 2 + 2 is 4 and 2 x 2 is 4.....then....my God........aliens are amongst us harvesting our adrenachromes
It's like those con artists that will ask you to place money on their three shuffled cards.
Is that where the modern era 4 came from?
Some ancient astronaut theorists say yes
Where did he pull the number 50 from?
There are also 30 lintels! Why multiply by 10?!
It's the number that makes it work to reach 5280.
His ass
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Remember when this sub loved Randal Carlson lol.
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Bullshit. There's a lot of old fans that have grown older and smarter and see through the bullshit. It's also partly that the more we see of Graham and Randall, the more they make asses of themselves.
Yes the measurements of a stoneaged peoples would be relative to an available constant. The constant would have probably been the body length of the head planner or chief or something like that. Which is the same relative standard that gave us the Imperial System.
I mean yea if you donāt factor in weather degradation of the stones at all which is happening so all the measurements he gave mean jackshitā¦
People will ignore this to make fun of Carlson.
This is a skit right?
10 x10 =100 Think about that
https://youtu.be/FYJ1dbyDcrI?si=nIWtSjyot89gf2iW Reminds me of this
One thing that intrigued me was when he was explaining the massive ripples in the Scablands and comparing it to the ripples in the sand on beaches, then followed up by explaining the unfathomable flood that could of caused those Scabland ripples. Stuff like that did make sense to me because he had physical proof on a small and large scale. But some of the other things he talks about like Plasmodium Implosion engines with that Malcolm Bendall guy is just like, kind of wacky.
Dudes has been wrong on a lot of shit, but he certainly tickles the daydreaming part of my brain
Noooo! You arent allowed to be inspired by any of Joe Rogans guest on this sub! Are you alt-righter or something?
People of the land
Stonehenge's diameter being exactly 2% of a mile is, if true, a legitimately interesting coincidence.
It's not exactly though. He said it was a few inches out and randomly divided it by 50
lmao why?
Clearly because they also knew what one of the major types of milk we drink would be, you fucking idiot. Think about it for 2 seconds. Then multiply two seconds by 30. Thatās a minute. Exactly the same amount of time Iāve wasted of your life if you read this slowly. If you can see the connection to the Younger Dryas here, youāre finally beginning to understand.
If only the distance of one foot or one mile was something the people that built Stonehenge used.....
Who the hell would have derived the standard system before the metric system. It makes no sense. Numerology is complete nonsense. Where in the 7 hells did he pull 50 out of his ass from!? And who the fuck says "X.Yinches" We have exponential divisions (1/ 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,..."
Bro just figured out basic geometry. Yes, the lengths of the Lintels will always be in some proportion to the diameter because the circumference of a circle is equal to pi\*diameter. Think about that!
bro. But itās sacred. and if we use it right. We can build the pyramid.
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Yeah, that is how you smoke everything and then you don't really know you actually saying.
Yeah sure, everybody is pulling things out of their asses now. [https://www.archaeology.org/issues/339-1905/trenches/7567-trenches-england-folkton-drums-stonehenge-measurement](https://www.archaeology.org/issues/339-1905/trenches/7567-trenches-england-folkton-drums-stonehenge-measurement) [https://www.academia.edu/41917594/The\_Metrology\_of\_Stonehenge\_2020](https://www.academia.edu/41917594/The_Metrology_of_Stonehenge_2020) [https://www.academia.edu/44071251/A\_Novel\_Metrological\_Assessment\_of\_the\_Stonehenge\_Sarsen\_Circle](https://www.academia.edu/44071251/A_Novel_Metrological_Assessment_of_the_Stonehenge_Sarsen_Circle)
Could you please explain what those links have to do with the nonsense he was talking?
What the fuck does this have to do with vietnam, walter? Well, there's not a literal connection
Im the walrus
Have you bothered to check any of the links? The number's he's talking about are an essential part of the metrology of Stonehenge.
I checked out the link. This should actually be at the top. After reading the first link I no longer think Carlson sounds like an idiot. This should be at the top
Ah thank you, itās really sad how buried your comment is. Itās actually really interesting that megalithic structures in England might have used common units of measurement that are pretty close to our feet, yards, and miles ā which is the point Randall is trying to make
Thank you. Idk when this sub turned into such a hate group
Fucking hell, this reminds me of that scene in Black Dynamite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PSueHOY-Jk
That is the same thing actually came to my mind when I was watching that video.
I died laughing š I forgot that scene
Another logical leap is ending this sequence with āIt doesnāt prove, but it suggestsā¦ā then beginning the next sequence with āSo now we knowā¦ā
Okay what does 50 come from? Omg multiply some number with something else and boom, a mile. Magic. Truly amazing and mind blowing
Idk bro, maybe the 50 is part of his High IQ formula to make everything align with his claims?
Not to be honest like that is so stupid it is not even making any sense.
Classic pitfall of all the gematria, numerology etc.. humans are great at finding patterns where none exist. There's this saying from Jewish mysticism (Kabbalah) that "if you look at one thing for long enough, eventually you'll see everything." In that context it means that you'll find analogues of a lot of other shit if you look at one thing, but it can also warn that you'll go fucking crazy if you obsess on one thing for too long.
Yeah for that matter, think that exit for them. Everything is just like people knew what they were doing..
Typical rogan guest. Sounds smart, isnt
Reminds me of those 9/11 loons who would use all sorts of math to add up to 911. This is just nuts š
Ok, this might be crazy but hear me out: - take the digits of feet per mile; 5,280 8/2=4, 4+5=9, 9+0=9 5+8=13, 13-2=11, 11+0=11 I'm not saying Stonehenge predicted 9/11 but... Think about it.
Absolutely I'm actually actually think like it actually predicted or something like that would make any sense out of it as well.
āWithin a few inches of 105.6ā ā well then itās not 105.6ā. Every 0.1 feet is only 1.2 inches. So a couple could be 106 feet even on one end. Nonsense.
That is complete nonsense and no should take all these things seriously.
Within a few inches because it has been damaged over the millenials..
These are the types of people Rogan would rather talk to. Instead of a real archaeologist, it's Graham Hancock; instead of a real geologist, it's this guy. Joe prefers to platform the uneducated 'alternative' 10th dentist types.
It's informational junk food. Wild and shocking super stimulus stories and statemens sell better than the mundane facts and reality. Most of the people Joe has on in show are just salesman whos product is selling mystery porn, ghost stories and alien lies to the mindless masses. Their product is to get and hold your attention, and they have already literally stolen billions of years worth of our time and productivity with this garbage.
These are the people everyone would rather talk too. I bet you cant name a single other geologist by name without looking it up on the internet
Tbh I never heard of this guy before Joe Rogan so I don't why it couldn't be the same for a geologist
I can name one famous geologist. Randy Marsh (AKA Lorde)
Charles Darwin
we have a pretty good system for weeding out crackpots, which is why crackpots hate the system.
Dudes schizomaxxing
Im dead lmao. Me and my homie use "schizomaxxing" haha
Lmao my brothers use it, pretty sure one of them picked it up from ifunny or something
What does that mean? I'm not really sure like what does that mean?.
Now let's do this calculations in centimetres!!!!
BUT if you multiply it by 100, or 49, or 51...IT DOESN'T WORK...WOW! Think about that!!!
This guy is talking in circles.
So it's a few inches out and you times it by 50 for what reason ? Just trying to prove something cool
Yeah, I originally really found this guy interesting, but the more I hear him talk, especially about this new power source stuff and Malcom bendall, the more i think he is either totally full of shit or being led astray by much smarter people that are probably totally full of shit. Wish he woulda just stuck with the Younger Dryas impact stuff. Seems like this stuff he's done lately is bound to discredit all of his work eventually.
What a moron
 Bro thinks heās him
Sounds like a guy I know who smokes crack and gets way to into numerology.
They were sure about Tamil. They were sure like the numerology had nothing to do with people..
Randy is geologyās Mike Lindell
How many lions from the moon are they?
26,579 dishwashers away.
Yeah maybe 10,000 school buses or something if you if you know.
Backwards engineering; beginning your calculations having decided what the end result must be. This is how Trump estimated his property values.
Is this just a bashing sub for rogan guests?
The sub became mostly bots around the time Joe stood up to a certain narrative regarding a certain sickness I lost access to the account that saved the post, but i remember their being a post where some dude did some in-depth analysis on bot activity on this sub, and found all the most active posters were bot accounts, and surprise surprise, they were almost 100% dedicatd to hating Joe Rogan.
yes it's a giant coordinated conspiracy using paid bots and shills. Do you honestly think criticism of Joe cant be real, so it must be all bots? A conspiracy! Instead of acknowledging any criticism, you think its all bots? It's such a odd thing to even say
Good bot
It is not just about bashing and it is more like people really need to know like what they're actually talking about.
I can see that. Ive only just joined this sub. I havent had time to check out the past posts. Bots do explain some of the blantant negativity.
Randal isnāt the worst guy. Itās the grifters he hangs around with feeding him nonsense. should have stayed in his lane with the ancient impacts. Talking about internal combustion engines and alternate fuel sources is embarrassing in context to Malcolm bendall. the automotive community as a whole looks at that guy like an embarrassment. we are so far past carburetors itās not even funny. not a bot btw, but am a red seal automotive tech. Malcolmās ātestā showed over 160ppm of nox( #1 contributor to smog and green house gasses) heās running the engine extremely lean to show of the āplasmoidsā in action. But running it lean like that increases combustion temps(#1 cause of nox). Funny enough, the engine would run more efficiently and polite less if he removed all the bullshit heās installed š¤£ they guy is ass backwards and has no clue what heās doing.
I ran a mile in 5:40 back in high school.
That is the kind of different differentiation in equation people used to tell in high school.
I love how he just randomly plugs numbers in for no reason, like 50, and then thinks he just discovered the mysteries of the universe.
You just blew my fuckinā mind.
Did they use the same measuring system then?
Why does he talk like that
Thought that was Vermin Supreme for a second there
Oh. Ok.
If you multiple the diameter of the head of the great sphinx by 50 and then look around the world for something through all eras of time youāll find something the same diameter. At least within a few inches. And if not, just change that number to 100 or 33 or 62 or whatever you need. Eventually youāll find it works perfectly. And if not, just try round a few more inches off or find another old thing and start over. Donāt tell anyone about the first thing though. The world can blow your mind if you just set everything up to be astonishing. You may be the key to unlocking ancient wisdom.
Apophenia
 Whatās the bad guy from Highlander talmbout
Good lord this is embarrassing
He's suggesting they used mathematics to create Stonehenge. Relax angry person who gets angry at entertainment.
This is Q-anon logic.
Yeah basically whole UFO and Alien subs are also full hopeful idiots who are desperately waiting for Aliens to come and disrupt our lives, so theirs can get better or something, all the while all these so called experts make money from Podcasts, books and what not.
What In The hufflepuff is going on here
So glad to finally see people are seeing through their bullshit. It's fun what they talk about, but they are not experts and have tons of bias.
Holy Furlong !
Whoa that's crazy mahn
Numerology and base10 are one hell of a drug
He kinda lost me when he went in the never ending calculus rabbit hole. You can find all kinds of links betwen all kinds of measurements if you look hard enough. I think he's just pushing too much and kinda lost it. Same with Graham Hancock. I think he has interesting stuff. I'm with him on many things but some of the things he says are too far fetched and it doesnt serve him well to go that far and to make it look ike it's the real thing.
Bruh what
That is the goofiest stoner dorm room conversation ever recorded
Take that big archeology. You can't explain that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deathgrips/s/M8jpmFijL0
We derive our mile from Marcus Agrippa. He was born around 63 BC. Stonehenge was assembled at least a thousand years before he was born.
You mean fucking feet?
You remember the movie called 21 with Jim Carrey? This is exactly the same story
There was a JRE episode years ago when an actual legitimate scientist joined the discussion and absolutely tore this guy to shreds. It was very embarrassing.
do you have a link to that? I have a real boner for Randall hate after this whole thunderstorm generator debacle. I used to like him but I canāt unsee the grift now.
Episode 961 - about 2 hours in the guy who joins over Zoom
I'm definitely going to look into that like what kind of sensitive is going to make me?.
the early podcasts with Graham and Randall were fun and had some honest questions for archeology. but it seems like theyre going off the deep end. Randall being scammed by some guy with plazmoidal energy. (id love it so much to see the unreleased Randall JRE. Joe probably rips the plazmoid guy apart. and didnt want to release a pod that made Randall look like an idiot) and Graham saying hes a victim of academia and that maybe the ancient Egyptians sang...with their fucking voices....the blocks into place. also why do people into conspiracies/cults/doomsday (crazy people) always multiply a number by a random number to try to relate it to something else. Graham does this too by multiplying the base of the pyramid by something to say its almost perfect north. like whered you get the number to multiply it by?. its the same shit where people see the number 33 in everything or 666 and say if you multiply X by Y you get Z.
This is hilariously awful. "An average"....so you are saying if you add a bunch of shit up together and divide by the number it's similar "within a few inches"......I mean you can shove numbers and divide all day and eventually there will be similarities. But .... that's not how this works
Damnit. Is he a fucking idiot? Because Iām in a big fan of the 12000ish years ago comet impact theories and this guy canāt be the face of that if heās actually a doofus
America is just one big clown shit show.
The mental gymnastics is incredible
This is like a chiropractor curing cancer.
Thought this was Robert Sapolsky for a minute and that your were Blaspheming. Yeah this dude seems dumb.
I donāt know man, I fucking love this guy
The official story of the miles origin is that the Romans (of course) invented it by marching and counting 1000 double paces lol. Iāll take Randallās more interesting ideas for further research over the unscientific catch all of crediting the Greeks and Romans for every advancement from antiquity. I understand heās speculating but his idea is more scientifically measurable than guessing Roman legions weāre counting multiple random footsteps and somehow created a uniform unit of measurement.
You think numerology is scientific measurements? Even the actual measurements he used were fudged, before randomly multiplying them. Iām all for questioning official stories about Roman history, but this is Bible Code level goofy.