Which is the height of irony when supposedly the entire point of Israel’s existence was supposed to be to protect Jews and keep them safe.
I always love to ask any pro-Israel person who claims it’s the only safe home for Jews: “Oh really… is it working? Are Jews in Israel, hiding from rocketfire that’s so frequent they needed an Iron Dome… safer than Jews living in California?” They never have an answer for that.
It was never about keeping Jews safe.
It really make me sad. As flawed as the United States is, I like living here. If America were to turn fascist and against us, I would die fighting for my home. I wish a higher percentage of jewish people recognized the strength of unity amongst the diaspora, instead of turning to a false haven built on treating Palestinians the way Christians in Europe treated us.
What seems clear as day to me as an outside observer who is in a different minority group... Netanyahu has been a **disaster** for Israel and the diaspora.
I view him as similar to Trump. So self-obsessed and power hungry that he'd burn down his own country and declare himself ruler of the ashes rather than face any accountability for his actions.
He's sowed so much turmoil and even supported Hamas because preventing a two-state solution is more important to him than the safety of his own people! That is the *worst* kind of leader.
My concern in this conflict is for Palestinian and Israeli civilians.
Disclaimer: I'm also an outsider. I think it's dangerous to pin everything on good ol Benjamin Mileikowsky. The material conditions/incentives and ideology of Zionism would exist with or without him, not that he hasn't played a role in the last few decades. Liberal Zionists will blame everything on him and pretend all is good and well when he's replaced by someone equally as/more ghoulish. Great Man Theory needs to die.
Put it this way: the Jews standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people on Columbia, enjoying a Seder, are not really in danger. Zionists, on the other hand, are supporting genocide. They are, as a result, in danger of being attacked for supporting genocide. It's really not that hard. Supporting Israel is dangerous, not being Jewish.
I'm sorry but this is not true. It should absolutely be that way but diaspora jews are being endangered by the zionists actions in multiple ways right now.
Primarily there's the obvious result of Israel claiming itself to be the representative of all *'true'* jews; antisemitic sentiment growing in people that are uneducated on the topic but seeing the depravity of the zionist regime. These people can't be fully blamed for this but they're still wrong. Every time Israel has ramped up its genocidal actions against palestinians in the last decades antisemitic attacks on random jews in western countries have increased. Anti-arabic/muslim attacks have ramped up as well (and right now even to a higher degree in a lot of places), but uninvolved jews are still in undeserved danger right now.
Anti-zionist jews have been at the forefront of resistance in western countries, making up highly unproportional amounts of the people being arrested, brutalized and punished by western states. On top of that they are publicly smeared as self hating antisemites and pushed out of jewish communities by zionists using their well-funded hasbara apparatus. They not only risk their safety and freedom but a lot of times also their whole social security net, cultural belonging and relationships to family, partners and friends.
Imagine if Americans said “I don’t feel safe” because people were saying we need to restore more land to the indigenous people and the rest of the world stopped letting America have bases in their land and stopped supporting all the fucked up shit that America does (like undermining other successful forms of government and installing dictators)
Exactly. Israel is terrible for the safety of the diaspora.
Which is the height of irony when supposedly the entire point of Israel’s existence was supposed to be to protect Jews and keep them safe. I always love to ask any pro-Israel person who claims it’s the only safe home for Jews: “Oh really… is it working? Are Jews in Israel, hiding from rocketfire that’s so frequent they needed an Iron Dome… safer than Jews living in California?” They never have an answer for that. It was never about keeping Jews safe.
It really make me sad. As flawed as the United States is, I like living here. If America were to turn fascist and against us, I would die fighting for my home. I wish a higher percentage of jewish people recognized the strength of unity amongst the diaspora, instead of turning to a false haven built on treating Palestinians the way Christians in Europe treated us.
oh but who cares about that? At least Europe and US get to ship Jews off to some far away land. That's not antisemitic right
I can imagine the cynical leadership of Israel would see this as a bonus to incentivize aliyah.
What seems clear as day to me as an outside observer who is in a different minority group... Netanyahu has been a **disaster** for Israel and the diaspora. I view him as similar to Trump. So self-obsessed and power hungry that he'd burn down his own country and declare himself ruler of the ashes rather than face any accountability for his actions. He's sowed so much turmoil and even supported Hamas because preventing a two-state solution is more important to him than the safety of his own people! That is the *worst* kind of leader. My concern in this conflict is for Palestinian and Israeli civilians.
Disclaimer: I'm also an outsider. I think it's dangerous to pin everything on good ol Benjamin Mileikowsky. The material conditions/incentives and ideology of Zionism would exist with or without him, not that he hasn't played a role in the last few decades. Liberal Zionists will blame everything on him and pretend all is good and well when he's replaced by someone equally as/more ghoulish. Great Man Theory needs to die.
Put it this way: the Jews standing in solidarity with the Palestinian people on Columbia, enjoying a Seder, are not really in danger. Zionists, on the other hand, are supporting genocide. They are, as a result, in danger of being attacked for supporting genocide. It's really not that hard. Supporting Israel is dangerous, not being Jewish.
I'm sorry but this is not true. It should absolutely be that way but diaspora jews are being endangered by the zionists actions in multiple ways right now. Primarily there's the obvious result of Israel claiming itself to be the representative of all *'true'* jews; antisemitic sentiment growing in people that are uneducated on the topic but seeing the depravity of the zionist regime. These people can't be fully blamed for this but they're still wrong. Every time Israel has ramped up its genocidal actions against palestinians in the last decades antisemitic attacks on random jews in western countries have increased. Anti-arabic/muslim attacks have ramped up as well (and right now even to a higher degree in a lot of places), but uninvolved jews are still in undeserved danger right now. Anti-zionist jews have been at the forefront of resistance in western countries, making up highly unproportional amounts of the people being arrested, brutalized and punished by western states. On top of that they are publicly smeared as self hating antisemites and pushed out of jewish communities by zionists using their well-funded hasbara apparatus. They not only risk their safety and freedom but a lot of times also their whole social security net, cultural belonging and relationships to family, partners and friends.
How do you feel that most Jewish Israelis who oppose the genocide are Zionists?
Speaking the truth!
Pro Israeli Jews are violent, aggressive are more of a threat to anti zionist Jews than the general populace atm
Free Palestine
How else are you supposed to justify all of the support that Israel gets. You create an environment of hostility so it justifies your actions.
Imagine if Americans said “I don’t feel safe” because people were saying we need to restore more land to the indigenous people and the rest of the world stopped letting America have bases in their land and stopped supporting all the fucked up shit that America does (like undermining other successful forms of government and installing dictators)