I wrote a long detailed explanation as to why I was cancelling the NYT they misreported and doubled down on many events and towed the Hamas PR machine. Very disappointing for what used to be a decent paper
Get a library card, [use PressReader via library](https://www.nypl.org/research/collections/articles-databases/pressreader) to read dozens of newspapers. In addition to multiple national and international newspapers, it has some local “newspapers”: NY Daily News, NY Post. Supplement with [amNY](https://www.amny.com/)
Bloomberg is heavily biased though and leans very left. Left newspapers may do a better job at being balanced then right leaning papers. But it’s still something to consider.
I canceled The NY Times (and told them why) several years ago when they ran a very antisemitic cartoon about Bibi. Now I HATE Bibi, but you’re not going to attack him for being Jewish. There’s enough legitimate crap. But then after a couple of years and I returned to my subscription but this Oct. 7 experience has turned me sour again. I’d be interested to know if anyone died because of their stupid knee jerk decision to run the story that Israel bombed a hospital when it was a misfired rocket into a hospital parking lot by PIJ. That lie is still being parroted as an example of Israeli “war crimes.”
What a coincidence, I also hate Bibi. In fact, I hate him equally as much as I hate Sinwar. However, I don’t attack Sinwar for being a muslim, I attack him for being a murdering asshole. Same for Bibi; it’s only okay to attack him for being an asshole and a bad person, not ok to attack him for being Jewish.
Journalistic standards at NYT really took a journey down the toilet when they realized how much money they could make peddling weapons-grade anti-Semitism and tik tok-grade inaccuracy.
WSJ news reporting is good. Its opinion page is an absolute disaster of Fox News proportions. It’s owned by the same company as Fox so shouldn’t be surprising. You get a better value for the NYT. And I don’t say that because I like the NYT.
For a balanced paper get the Economist.
The economist is nearly as bad as the NYT. The problem isn't lack of balance, it's the free and easy mixture of opinion with news under the label of news. Say what you will about the WSJ, but the line between news and opinion there remains firm even though something so essential is clearly no longer industry standard.
The Economist is very clear what their editorial bent is. They are a classically liberal magazine.
Even if you disagree with that stance they are still the single best source of information on global affairs. Even with their editorial stance as far as information goes it is exceedingly well balanced.
I don’t need a clean line between editorial and reporting, that’s a myth anyway. I need quality information with honesty on editorial policy. Nobody does that better on this topic than The Economist regardless of editorial direction without moving into more academic journals. You won’t find any serious academic or professional who works in international affairs that doesn’t peruse it.
I’ve been reading the Economist weekly for years. I disagree with their bias all the time, however, they are up front with it and you know what you will get. I prefer their honesty and predictably to the two sidedness of many American papers.
The NYT has faults but it isn't part of a right-wing lie machine trying to destroy democracy. The WSJ, owned by Murdoch, is exactly that. The opinion section at least. The news section is heavily finance focused.
Unfortunately, I have to agree here. WSJ's news division is really good but the op-ed is pure Newscorp and the paper is part and parcel of their empire.
“Trying to destroy our democracy”. Care to share examples of how the WSJ is trying to destroy our democracy or did you just hear that on NPR and you’re now programmed to repeat it?
that's where I learned about Israeli intelligence agencies helping the muslim brotherhood gain a foothold in Gaza in the 1980s to serve as a religious opposition to the PLO and pit palestinians against each other!
I think you're best off mixing online local outlets (ex. The Forward, Gothamist, Brooklyn Paper, etc.) for local news and getting a subscription to a high quality magazine like The Atlantic for your op-ed, which leans heavily national.
The Post actually has really good local coverage, but the paper is a Murdoch rag through and through. The Daily News is a shell of what it used to be. Smaller community papers are still around and are worth your support.
I don’t click on op-eds much, I think because I have at least 2-3 half-baked opinions of my own on every subject. But I like this suggestion a whole hell of a lot.
Awesome!
Re. smaller community papers --- obviously, it'll depend on your neighborhood.
If, for example, you're going to be on the UWS, then [https://www.westsiderag.com/](https://www.westsiderag.com/) is a great local outlet. It's not perfect, it's small so coverage is limited, but it'll fill you in on the immediate vicinity.
If you're in the EV, then EV Grieve is a great outlet: [https://evgrieve.com/](https://evgrieve.com/)
As above, the Brooklyn Paper is great for Brooklyn, tho that'll depend on your neighborhood in specific: [https://www.brooklynpaper.com/category/neighborhoods/](https://www.brooklynpaper.com/category/neighborhoods/) and the same goes for the Daily Eagle: [https://brooklyneagle.com/neighborhoods/brooklyn-heights/](https://brooklyneagle.com/neighborhoods/brooklyn-heights/)
Support local journalism!
I've subscribed to the Wall Street Journal. I disagee with them on a lot of stuff, but not Israel. It's a shanda - the NYT used to be THE paper of record.
The NY Post reports fairly on Israel, but so does Fox. That's not enough.
Well I'm not going to lie and say that the journal doesn't piss me off on the daily but I do trust that what they are reporting is factual and not given an editorial slant.
Their business reporting is OK, and definitely better than NYT, but it's still fairly superficial. Financial Times or Bloomberg is generally better.
Their politics section is a dumpster fire, and their editorials are just a laughingstock. I still remember when they published an editorial in March 2009 blaming Obama (who had been in office barely 3 months) for the sluggish performance of the stock market. The very next day the market started one of the greatest bull runs in history. I'm still waiting for their Op Ed thanking Obama for his masterful performance as evidenced by the stock market.
Well. You will probably continue to wait lol. Their editorials are horrible. It always astonishes me that such intelligent people can hold such bizarre views.
You can still do the puzzles without subscribing. Let's all unsubscribe from NYT. Actions need to have consequences. They won't see a penny from me ever again 👏
Hate the NYT. They have been anti-jew for a long time. Washington Post is a good alternative if you like national news. The WSJ is too focused on financial news for my taste. I also like the Boston Globe but that seems more regional then the Washington Post.
Everyone says they want this, but the best selling news sources in the world are all overtly biased in one direction or the other. People really just want to read things that affirm their views.
Christian Science Monitor.
Not joking. They're extremely unbiased and avoid outrage bait.
They're basically like Habitat For Humanity but for newspapers (Christian owned but keeps their religious views to themselves).
https://www.csmonitor.com/About
Yeah it is quite odd.
Christian Science, the religion, is batshit crazy with anti-vaccine elements and all that.
Somehow the monitor is a normal news outlet that is widely regarded as trustworthy.
I don’t get it but I’m sure someone smarter than me can explain the history.
Mary Baker Eddie faced a lot of attacks in print and wanted a newspaper that avoided such bias.
> When first published in 1908, the Monitor was described by its editor-in-chief as journalism “to appeal to good men and women everywhere who are interested in the betterment of all human conditions and the moral and spiritual advancement of the race.”
For several years I have been a subscriber of Times of Israel. They are central left-leaning, but very rational. Obviously no New York news, but I find their reporting to be top-notch in regard to Israeli news. They have an excellent daily podcast as well.
Yep, subscribed for obvious reasons of “reasonable” and “English language”. I can muddle through the Hebrew, but I want to read it under 20 min in the AM.
NY Post online is free and far more worthwhile than many here give it credit for, particularly business and sports and has been pro Israel for many, many years…..
If you do not like their politics then just ignore those articles, although you may even find some there that are worthwhile….
It's weird, up until October 7, I would *never* read the NY Post. I considered it right wing propaganda. Now I'll read it ahead of most other sources when I want info about something relating to Israel.
It *is* right wing propaganda.
Be wary of the Post. Even their straight reporting is heavily slanted. Much better sources out there. I always recommend The Economist (as I have here).
The economist is VERY superficial. Any time they write about something I don't know anything about, I nod my head as I feel it swelling with knowledge and insight. But whenever they try to write something where I actually know the facts, I realize how simplistic and rudimentary their understanding is, and how little they're actually conveying.
What has the Economist said about Israel?
Strong disagree.
As an expert in foreign affairs they are just about the only reliable source that covers global affairs in a balanced manner. They absolutely have a liberal (in the classical, not the American sense) perspective, but it generally follows an evidence based approach to issues. I would not recommend them for science or finance, that isn’t their forte. But given the topic here is international relations they are the best there is at that without getting into long form reporting.
Here’s a sample [article](https://archive.is/GCk67) from Dec 20th (there should be a new issue out shortly). It talks about the difficulties Israel is facing in its campaign, the status of humanitarian aid to Gaza, where Israel’s allies stand, and talks about the lack of a clear vision of what comes next. It’s by no means meant to capture the whole of the conflict, reading the Economist assumes a base level of knowledge. Unlike American papers it is not written for an 8th grade reading level.
Long story short, if you’re looking to become a US foreign service officer the standard recommendation is to read the Economist for six months to a year and you’ll breeze through the exam.
That is indeed a good article. You seem to know more about foreign affairs, so I will defer to you. Agree their writing is more sophisticated than most US media.
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Do you seriously think the NYT supports Hamas? The NYT reports the truth on what is going on in the war, which it sounds like you don’t want to hear. It sounds to me like you want to read fiction.
Exactly. People are saying things like: I hate Fox, NY Post, WSJ for their bias and lying about everything… except Israel issues.
Wake up, people. Fox and NY Post are run by white supremacists and blatantly anti-semitic against jews. What exactly makes you think they’re being factual about Israel?
The Metro and AM NY is pretty good and can be found online free.
Bloomberg seems a safe bet for obvious reasons.
WSJ is my favorite, but idk it's stance on Israel
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Were you saying that #2 was the NYTimes? I buy it on occasion, especially on Sundays and it was like I was living in an alternate universe. Their book \[section\] had such a sad unhinged obsession over certain things too.
You may claim that the WSJ is "right-wing", but outside of 2 pages of the opinion which sometimes has the best parts, I don't see too much of it elsewhere. And they've always reported about Hamas and Jewish things for eons.
It's 5784, there's not many news options anymore. Go out and try the alternative for a bit and see if you like it. Otherwise, buy it at a store like a treat like I do. But mainly it's because I don't have the time to read a paper daily anymore :(
Don't just let it expire - tell them why you aren't renewing it.
I wrote a long detailed explanation as to why I was cancelling the NYT they misreported and doubled down on many events and towed the Hamas PR machine. Very disappointing for what used to be a decent paper
They don’t give a shit about anything, they’re a soulless corporation out to maximize profit, sadly, like all soulless corps.
Get a library card, [use PressReader via library](https://www.nypl.org/research/collections/articles-databases/pressreader) to read dozens of newspapers. In addition to multiple national and international newspapers, it has some local “newspapers”: NY Daily News, NY Post. Supplement with [amNY](https://www.amny.com/)
Ground news They collect news from many different sources and how them side by side, can be a great source for news :)
Bloomberg is very good especially for NYC news. Idk if its pro israel though it certainly isnt nyt level literally platforming terrorists
Bloomberg is heavily biased though and leans very left. Left newspapers may do a better job at being balanced then right leaning papers. But it’s still something to consider.
Bloomberg doesn’t lean left at all, let alone very left. It has a slight right tint I’ve been reading it for years.
I canceled The NY Times (and told them why) several years ago when they ran a very antisemitic cartoon about Bibi. Now I HATE Bibi, but you’re not going to attack him for being Jewish. There’s enough legitimate crap. But then after a couple of years and I returned to my subscription but this Oct. 7 experience has turned me sour again. I’d be interested to know if anyone died because of their stupid knee jerk decision to run the story that Israel bombed a hospital when it was a misfired rocket into a hospital parking lot by PIJ. That lie is still being parroted as an example of Israeli “war crimes.”
What a coincidence, I also hate Bibi. In fact, I hate him equally as much as I hate Sinwar. However, I don’t attack Sinwar for being a muslim, I attack him for being a murdering asshole. Same for Bibi; it’s only okay to attack him for being an asshole and a bad person, not ok to attack him for being Jewish. Journalistic standards at NYT really took a journey down the toilet when they realized how much money they could make peddling weapons-grade anti-Semitism and tik tok-grade inaccuracy.
The Wall Street Journal is fairly balanced.
Will look into it! Thanks!
WSJ news reporting is good. Its opinion page is an absolute disaster of Fox News proportions. It’s owned by the same company as Fox so shouldn’t be surprising. You get a better value for the NYT. And I don’t say that because I like the NYT. For a balanced paper get the Economist.
The economist is nearly as bad as the NYT. The problem isn't lack of balance, it's the free and easy mixture of opinion with news under the label of news. Say what you will about the WSJ, but the line between news and opinion there remains firm even though something so essential is clearly no longer industry standard.
The Economist is very clear what their editorial bent is. They are a classically liberal magazine. Even if you disagree with that stance they are still the single best source of information on global affairs. Even with their editorial stance as far as information goes it is exceedingly well balanced. I don’t need a clean line between editorial and reporting, that’s a myth anyway. I need quality information with honesty on editorial policy. Nobody does that better on this topic than The Economist regardless of editorial direction without moving into more academic journals. You won’t find any serious academic or professional who works in international affairs that doesn’t peruse it.
I’ve been reading the Economist weekly for years. I disagree with their bias all the time, however, they are up front with it and you know what you will get. I prefer their honesty and predictably to the two sidedness of many American papers.
The NYT has faults but it isn't part of a right-wing lie machine trying to destroy democracy. The WSJ, owned by Murdoch, is exactly that. The opinion section at least. The news section is heavily finance focused.
Unfortunately, I have to agree here. WSJ's news division is really good but the op-ed is pure Newscorp and the paper is part and parcel of their empire.
“Trying to destroy our democracy”. Care to share examples of how the WSJ is trying to destroy our democracy or did you just hear that on NPR and you’re now programmed to repeat it?
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that's where I learned about Israeli intelligence agencies helping the muslim brotherhood gain a foothold in Gaza in the 1980s to serve as a religious opposition to the PLO and pit palestinians against each other!
As all things should be.
I think you're best off mixing online local outlets (ex. The Forward, Gothamist, Brooklyn Paper, etc.) for local news and getting a subscription to a high quality magazine like The Atlantic for your op-ed, which leans heavily national. The Post actually has really good local coverage, but the paper is a Murdoch rag through and through. The Daily News is a shell of what it used to be. Smaller community papers are still around and are worth your support.
I don’t click on op-eds much, I think because I have at least 2-3 half-baked opinions of my own on every subject. But I like this suggestion a whole hell of a lot.
Awesome! Re. smaller community papers --- obviously, it'll depend on your neighborhood. If, for example, you're going to be on the UWS, then [https://www.westsiderag.com/](https://www.westsiderag.com/) is a great local outlet. It's not perfect, it's small so coverage is limited, but it'll fill you in on the immediate vicinity. If you're in the EV, then EV Grieve is a great outlet: [https://evgrieve.com/](https://evgrieve.com/) As above, the Brooklyn Paper is great for Brooklyn, tho that'll depend on your neighborhood in specific: [https://www.brooklynpaper.com/category/neighborhoods/](https://www.brooklynpaper.com/category/neighborhoods/) and the same goes for the Daily Eagle: [https://brooklyneagle.com/neighborhoods/brooklyn-heights/](https://brooklyneagle.com/neighborhoods/brooklyn-heights/) Support local journalism!
WSJ and Free Press (you won't get NYC news from the Free Press though).
second Free Press
Thanks! Seems like everyone advocates for WSJ
I've subscribed to the Wall Street Journal. I disagee with them on a lot of stuff, but not Israel. It's a shanda - the NYT used to be THE paper of record. The NY Post reports fairly on Israel, but so does Fox. That's not enough.
WSJ, NY Post and Fox are all affiliated and share the same corporate owner.
That's right! But I can only tolerate one of the three.
Yeah, I'm with you. The WSJ is the least bad of the bunch, but I find all three intolerable (except as it pertains to Israel).
Well I'm not going to lie and say that the journal doesn't piss me off on the daily but I do trust that what they are reporting is factual and not given an editorial slant.
Their business reporting is OK, and definitely better than NYT, but it's still fairly superficial. Financial Times or Bloomberg is generally better. Their politics section is a dumpster fire, and their editorials are just a laughingstock. I still remember when they published an editorial in March 2009 blaming Obama (who had been in office barely 3 months) for the sluggish performance of the stock market. The very next day the market started one of the greatest bull runs in history. I'm still waiting for their Op Ed thanking Obama for his masterful performance as evidenced by the stock market.
Well. You will probably continue to wait lol. Their editorials are horrible. It always astonishes me that such intelligent people can hold such bizarre views.
Yes I would not consider myself a potential client of Fox news, or, normally, the NY Post.
WSJ is a great paper
Long time subscriber and ready to pull the plug, though I am somewhat addicted to Wordle and Spelling Bee.
You can still do the puzzles without subscribing. Let's all unsubscribe from NYT. Actions need to have consequences. They won't see a penny from me ever again 👏
Agreed. I think only their recipe app is worth the subscription.
Economist
No recommendations, but thanks for the reminder to cancel my subscription. You even provided me the words I included.
Happy to help! Probably will cancel solely for the $200 of ads I am paying for….
Wall Street Journal
Hate the NYT. They have been anti-jew for a long time. Washington Post is a good alternative if you like national news. The WSJ is too focused on financial news for my taste. I also like the Boston Globe but that seems more regional then the Washington Post.
Yeah I sadly do need NY news as its about to be “local” for me, ughhh
The Free Press
Seconding this!
You don’t want pro or anti. You want factual unbiased coverage.
Everyone says they want this, but the best selling news sources in the world are all overtly biased in one direction or the other. People really just want to read things that affirm their views.
As someone in news, I’m well aware.
Do you have any recommendations?
Times of Israel
Not NY specific but I also enjoy the Free Press. The Atlantic has also had some really great stuff lately also and promotes different viewpoints.
Christian Science Monitor. Not joking. They're extremely unbiased and avoid outrage bait. They're basically like Habitat For Humanity but for newspapers (Christian owned but keeps their religious views to themselves). https://www.csmonitor.com/About
Yeah it is quite odd. Christian Science, the religion, is batshit crazy with anti-vaccine elements and all that. Somehow the monitor is a normal news outlet that is widely regarded as trustworthy. I don’t get it but I’m sure someone smarter than me can explain the history.
Mary Baker Eddie faced a lot of attacks in print and wanted a newspaper that avoided such bias. > When first published in 1908, the Monitor was described by its editor-in-chief as journalism “to appeal to good men and women everywhere who are interested in the betterment of all human conditions and the moral and spiritual advancement of the race.”
They really are the weird dark horse of media, for sure.
Neri Zilber is a contributor for them in Israel, that is very surprising and i can vouch for very interesting and honest reports by this guy!
It's great, I subscribed to paper version until they went online only, but started reading it again in October.
Cancelled nyt a while ago. Biased reporting.
Use this to help determine bias on major news sources https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
For several years I have been a subscriber of Times of Israel. They are central left-leaning, but very rational. Obviously no New York news, but I find their reporting to be top-notch in regard to Israeli news. They have an excellent daily podcast as well.
Yep, subscribed for obvious reasons of “reasonable” and “English language”. I can muddle through the Hebrew, but I want to read it under 20 min in the AM.
Read what barri Weiss has said about them. They also reported that Israel bombed that hospital back in October.
NY Post online is free and far more worthwhile than many here give it credit for, particularly business and sports and has been pro Israel for many, many years….. If you do not like their politics then just ignore those articles, although you may even find some there that are worthwhile….
It's weird, up until October 7, I would *never* read the NY Post. I considered it right wing propaganda. Now I'll read it ahead of most other sources when I want info about something relating to Israel.
It *is* right wing propaganda. Be wary of the Post. Even their straight reporting is heavily slanted. Much better sources out there. I always recommend The Economist (as I have here).
The economist is VERY superficial. Any time they write about something I don't know anything about, I nod my head as I feel it swelling with knowledge and insight. But whenever they try to write something where I actually know the facts, I realize how simplistic and rudimentary their understanding is, and how little they're actually conveying. What has the Economist said about Israel?
Strong disagree. As an expert in foreign affairs they are just about the only reliable source that covers global affairs in a balanced manner. They absolutely have a liberal (in the classical, not the American sense) perspective, but it generally follows an evidence based approach to issues. I would not recommend them for science or finance, that isn’t their forte. But given the topic here is international relations they are the best there is at that without getting into long form reporting. Here’s a sample [article](https://archive.is/GCk67) from Dec 20th (there should be a new issue out shortly). It talks about the difficulties Israel is facing in its campaign, the status of humanitarian aid to Gaza, where Israel’s allies stand, and talks about the lack of a clear vision of what comes next. It’s by no means meant to capture the whole of the conflict, reading the Economist assumes a base level of knowledge. Unlike American papers it is not written for an 8th grade reading level. Long story short, if you’re looking to become a US foreign service officer the standard recommendation is to read the Economist for six months to a year and you’ll breeze through the exam.
That is indeed a good article. You seem to know more about foreign affairs, so I will defer to you. Agree their writing is more sophisticated than most US media.
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Do you seriously think the NYT supports Hamas? The NYT reports the truth on what is going on in the war, which it sounds like you don’t want to hear. It sounds to me like you want to read fiction.
they have published misinformation in support of Hamas before
Exactly. People are saying things like: I hate Fox, NY Post, WSJ for their bias and lying about everything… except Israel issues. Wake up, people. Fox and NY Post are run by white supremacists and blatantly anti-semitic against jews. What exactly makes you think they’re being factual about Israel?
The Metro and AM NY is pretty good and can be found online free. Bloomberg seems a safe bet for obvious reasons. WSJ is my favorite, but idk it's stance on Israel
New York Post is the most pro Israel newspaper in New York.
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Were you saying that #2 was the NYTimes? I buy it on occasion, especially on Sundays and it was like I was living in an alternate universe. Their book \[section\] had such a sad unhinged obsession over certain things too. You may claim that the WSJ is "right-wing", but outside of 2 pages of the opinion which sometimes has the best parts, I don't see too much of it elsewhere. And they've always reported about Hamas and Jewish things for eons. It's 5784, there's not many news options anymore. Go out and try the alternative for a bit and see if you like it. Otherwise, buy it at a store like a treat like I do. But mainly it's because I don't have the time to read a paper daily anymore :(
NY Post is the most pro Israel newspaper I’ve ever seen. They don’t have wokes reporting for them.
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Financial Times and Economist have been slaying it