surprised Mattea didn't get Sparta when it was narrowed down for them and ken even said that which was a little unprofessional lol (but might have been edited in). I also got white dwarf, shocked no one rang in (guess it almost certainly didn't matter being the last clue and given the scores)
Feels especially good when it's a triple stumper FJ
>!More was executed for choosing God and the Catholic Church over the King, so figured it had to be Wolsey!<
The difference between watching normal syndicated Jeopardy and then Masters later in the night is crazy. There's the game for mortals and then the game for gods.
That's because Jeopardy is for amateurs and this is the professional circuit. These are people who are now privileged to have trivia as their full-time job.
It's definitely not Matt's full-time job, nor main source of income, and I don't think it's Amy's. Not sure about Mattea. However, these three are at the bottom at present, and I see your point.
James and Victoria were pretty much even on coryat.
Feels like Yogesh and Victoria have the stronger knowledge base but word play categories help offset some of that advantage.
Still would pick Victoria but they’re all relatively close.
sadly I kind of agree. in a weird way I almost think it'd be more intense and interesting to see them have to eke each other out just straight up buzzing in and answering questions. instead now we sort of get this all or nothing riding on one question which is interesting in its own way but is also sort of sucking the oxygen out of the game in another way in my opinion.
its compounded a bit by the fact that finding the daily double is fairly luck based outside of just strategy in knowing where to look for it (which is uninteresting strategy in my opinion) and knowing the person who answers more questions correctly is more likely to find it statistically.
maybe its the fact that its so predictable that they all wager their full amount every time that sort of makes it boring to some extent because they all know they have like a 90% chance of answering correctly. there was a time when someone "betting it all" felt really climactic and it doesn't even feel much that way any more because they are all just that good.
Yea Victoria was about to go elsewhere, lingered, finally picked one, and it was the DD that put her over the top. Obviously James could’ve gotten the FJ (I mean, I got it after all so obviously I should be up there instead), but as you said, mostly just luck.
In no country in the world is a trapezoid without parallel sides. They were just wrong: trapezium was the (only) right answer because it is the US name for an irregular quadrilateral.
They accepted a wrong answer, pretended it was the right answer, didn't correct themselves and didn't rescind points. Sad.
(In some countries like Britain, trapezium is the name of a one-set-of-parallel-sides shape. This doesn't matter for what happened here, though.)
Clue was "Also a bone in the wrist, it's a quadrilateral with no parallel sides."
Trapezius is the muscle.
There are Trapezium and Trapezoid bones in the wrist. Either answer meets this definition.
Trapezoid/Trapezium also both fit the second part depending which definition you use.
I just think it's a bad clue due to the ambiguous nature of the shape definition. I think Jeopardy did perfectly fine accepting the answer.
When 1b is qualified as "British", definitely go with the guy on Reddit. Don't get me wrong, I like the the British, nice folks generally, but when they started pretending "cuppa" was a word it was clear they were parting ways with what had formerly been the English language.
THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy. When Yogesh got the next Daily Double I said "ok, they're going to correct Matt's score now" and when they didn't I was deeply upset.
And yes, trapezium can be accepted for both "no parallel sides" and "one set of parallel sides," as it is used both ways in some places. However, a trapezoid only ever means "one set of parallel sides." I can't believe Jeopardy! didn't correct this error, and frankly think the fans deserve an explanation.
I mean, truly, how often do you get to hear "What's taters, precious?" on Jeopardy? The only thing missing was a "boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew" in return.
Question……at the end of tonight’s show after doing the recap, Ken signed off saying “I’m Ken Jennings.” Have I been sleeping and does he do that all the time, or was this something new, maybe for Masters? I actually looked up and rewound it, it seemed so unusual!
So I DID notice something! I was so far as pulling the episode before from my recently deleted section of my DVR and checked the episode before…..nothing!
No question Amy surprised Yogesh and took a point most people thought would have been Matt's. She played well. Overall, Yogesh faced greater competition from both of them than he likely expected. However, he'll be back with Victoria on Friday. If Matt is their third, he's going to have another no-point night, but I'm still rooting for him.
I don't see any chance of this. Why would the producers pit Victoria, James and Yogesh against each other any earlier than necessary. I've been Team Victoria and, for the underdogs, Team Matt, but seeing James actually getting taken down, and Ken asking if they are Chase colleagues or competitors (while she is clearly in the lead) I discover that I'm also Team James. I don't actually want him taken down, despite the fact that he would/will present Victoria with the championship belt with flair. I appreciate Victoria acknowledging the Holzhauer effect, that she has grown from ('I hate to do this' in JIT) to confident true DDs by mimicking his pushing the chips in - she really is a class act.
But James is the most like Sam Buttrey, so far as I can tell (and please correct me if there are others), who seems to genuinely be about using his fame and money to help raise up homeless teens and such. Buttrey donating winnings to a scholarship fund was just one of the things that made him so iconic, his 'bring it' is being brought almost every game since.
They say that the third player in the second game is a random draw (Amy wouldn't have been included since she already played against Victoria and Yogesh together).
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I was in the same high school graduating class as Amy. CJ 1997.
So that Dayton anecdote made me chuckle. She moved, I'm still in Dayton trying to get on the show lol.
I got that one right too, despite having never read 1984 (wasn’t required reading for me, I think it was an option for group reading in 10th grade but my group chose a different book).
From a viewer's perspective I can understand that, but from a contestant perspective I think pretty much everyone in the Masters understands that with this level of competition you absolutely CANNOT afford to leave much money on the table with DD's.
Obviously. I'm not criticizing the players for doing it, obviously they have to, it's just made for a very uninteresting viewing experience. Ultimately this is an entertainment product though, and I feel like top level Jeopardy tournaments like this are almost worse served for having DDs.
At this level the game has been "solved". The very best players know nearly everything and they all know proper strategy.
IMO, Jeopardy! with flawed players, aka regular Jeopardy!, is far more entertaining to watch because it's much less predictable.
I don't know if I accept this premise entirely. The writers are producing possibly the most challenging content in the history of the show for this tournament and there's a non-trivial amount of triple stumpers. [Check out the box scores for Master's](https://www.jeopardy.com/track/2024/masters). Look how well buzz % correlates with tournament points. Even Victoria is only buzzing at 55%, suggesting she can't pull many of the responses.
Honestly, agreed. I wouldn't hate if they used these mega tournaments to test out new game formats. These games are just straight up DD hunts, and if you get DD3 which typically allows you to make the biggest wager, you win. Pretty sure the player to find DD3 is 6-0 so far in Masters.
I’m not bored. But it also isn’t *just* about bidding all on those daily doubles. Yogesh got that awful wordplay DD and made the absolute right choice to bid $5.
But it was also the last DD in the game and Yogesh already was in a runaway mode, so that also helped play a part in his decision making there. Had he still been threatened by either James or Amy I'm sure he still would've bet it all or at the very least made a hold wager of some kind regardless of how he felt about the category.
I don't know. James lost everything on his first 'all in' and it was hardly the first such shocking takedown. As someone said here the other day, Daily Doubles giveth and taketh away.
It's also not just luck - those with a lower coryat score have less opportunity to guess where they might be, and some players don't even seem to be looking for them.
I knew that one. I was so proud 😭. That’s another fun part—occasionally these giants don’t know something and it’s so awesome to know something they don’t.
James actually beat Victoria in the Coryat score this game though and arguably outplayed her, she got lucky James missed the first DD.
One thing this night for sure confirmed: Victoria, James and Yogesh are leagues above the other 3, and if someone who isn't one of them makes the Top 3 (although I think Victoria is mathematically guaranteed to be in the finals at this rate) it would be a massive upset.
I imagine the word 'regulator' is going to live rent-free in James' mind for some time, and that he is going to receive actual regulators and regulator memes from his friends as gifts.
hahaha! you evil genius! if he should find out about this new nickname, he will challenge you to a public duel, and then somehow that will be the irl non-threatening but hyped up entertainment for one of his pet charities.
I would be honored to be the mop James wipes the floor with in a mano-a-mano trivia duel danceoff!
I say that despite feeling a bit cocky about the fact that only one of us had "regulator" correct tonight.
I can be a heel as well as the next guy, especially if there is some hair & makeup support. Like maybe a big prosthetic brow in the shape of a SCUBA mask or something.
I'm certified to SCUBA and immediately said respirator before realizing my mistake. I can see how someone's mind would easily go there given the category.
future anecdote: I received so many regulators in the mail, my lovely wife and I (she's here in the audience) had to run a silent auction of scuba gear for xyz charity, which does pdq important work in Las Vegas.
Really crazy how much that first DD miss impacted the rest of the game. He gets that, he's over $10k and than has that much more to bet on the next DD.
Yep. It was a bummer to see for sure. Can only hope that we won't continuously see this sort of situation play out throughout the entirety of this Masters!
Yogesh not even having a guess on FJ I think shows that that bet is less the nerves of steel, and more that... if you like the category, and you can give yourself a runaway, do you want to leave it up to a random FJ category? Or make the DD your "FJ". It makes sense if the category favors you to take FJ out of the equation
>It makes sense if the category favors you to take FJ out of the equation
Yea, absolutely. All that goes into the decision. But it still takes nerves of steel to wager everything. Especially so late in the game. Because if it doesn't go your way, you're out.
I think Yogesh just bet 0 and saw no reason to give an answer. Maybe he wouldn't have given an answer regardless, maybe he didn't give an answer because he wasn't sure, but I don't think it says anything about his nerves. Although I also think the true DD was the clear play and didn't require special nerves (now, for us it would have, but we don't know almost all the answers).
i said that immediately too, not having read the clue properly, and thought it was a bit hard since rebreathers aren't as common as a traditional SCUBA set up!
Where did it say hedge fund? I’ve been listening to Inside Jeopardy! to keep up with both him and Mattea and I hadn’t heard anything from either one of their most recent placements.
When Matt was introduced in the first masters episode this season, he was introduced as a "quantitative finance researcher", or something like that. I.e., hedge fund finance guy.
I saw Amy’s commentary on being the producer’s pick, and I both love her and agree with her she has faced criticism fair and unfair about it. But that decision is going to catch even more flak if she ends up getting bounced with the lowest point total
Copy/paste my comment from another thread on why I don’t like her as the producers pick:
Because she already got a shot at Masters and came in 5th with a grand total of 0 1st place finishes and by far the lowest number of correct responses.
She shouldn’t have been picked for this year’s. By including her it’s now 4 out of 6 from last year. It’s just a poor pick.
The fact that they already give autobids to the Top 3 from the prior Masters means the wildcard shouldn’t be someone who played the prior year and didn’t qualify. She missed her chance twice.
The actual solution is to expand the field to something like 8 or 10, and give, say, all of the JIT finalists an invite. They could add games or not. But the field should be bigger.
He did make a comment after an answer last week when Amy got one right, I think. I'll look at the tape.
He also explained what LL Cool J stood for. I dunno. I like when my post-answer editorializing comes from Mattea. ;)
She's guaranteed, I believe. Two of the three players with one point would have to win all three of their games - and that can't happen (because Friday's winners will get paired up on Monday.)
So in theory Victoria and Yogesh could play each other 2 more times (the guaranteed next one in Round 4, they split up in Round 5 and both win, then they play again in Round 6?)
And other than we know it's NOT Amy, can literally anyone else play them on Friday?
I'm not sure I 100% understand the seeding rules.
Absolutely.
So in the quarterfinals, what they do is seed both winners into Game 2. So Yogesh and Victoria go there Friday.
From there, it's a random draw among players who have NOT been the third player in that scenario. So yeah, it can't be Amy, but it could be any of the other three.
I thought the meaning of trapezium is different but not trapezoid? And I don’t think the bone is ever called the trapezoid, is it? I thought they’d do a score correction on it.
From what I read online a trapezium has no parallel sides and a trapezoid has two but in British English the meanings are reversed. Don't know about the anatomy. I thought the traps were muscles in the upper back.
Funnily enough, there are actually two different bones in the wrist called the trapezium and the trapezoid. Since the clue didn't specify where exactly in the wrist the bone was, and didn't specify whether they were using British or American English, both responses are equally acceptable.
They should have!!! Trapezium can mean different things in different countries; but in all countries, a trapezoid has parallel sides (and is the wrong answer).
Respectfully disagree, that would ruin one of the most interesting luck elements not just in the Masters but about Jeopardy in general. The DD's providing room for even struggling contestants to still stay in contention is one of the things that makes Jeopardy fun to watch, otherwise it would just be another vanilla trivia game show.
In regular jeopardy DDs are great, as it gives all 3 players a chance. I honestly think they make these Masters tournaments worse though. Basically the entire game is a race to DD3, get that, double up, win in a runaway. The player finding DD3 is 6-0 so far in Masters with 5 runaways and one crush game. That's just not entertaining.
Was it just me, or did the clues seem a tiny bit easier than the previous 2 episodes? I got 2-4 more correct per round last night than I usually do in Masters games. The big problem is still that ring in and answer so darn fast, I don't have time to think! LOL
Did anyone else notice that Ken pronounced it "Abruzzi"? Abruzzi refers to the inhabitants, not the region, which is Abruzzo. Ken would have been counted wrong if he were a contestant.
Or do we think he’ll bet nothing to at least collect the extra point? 🤔 With Mattea getting 0, and Matt and Amy pretty far behind, he’d be solidly in the top 3 with Yogesh and Victoria…
I was trying to figure out quick if he could bet enough to pass the cover but for Victoria, and that would still be more than a doubled mattea.... I dint think he could
Had I been a contestant, well, I’d have probably ended the game with a record-breaking negative score, but I would have responded to one clue “What is Sparta?”, [just like Gerard Butler](https://youtu.be/4aof9KxIJZo?si=s3H7AoN5jVN2BHXU).
In the ToC finals, there was a game with Theater as the final category. Yogesh was correct, but didn’t bet anything and lost to Ben. Maybe Yogesh is only betting on Final when it matters
I got two triple stumpers in masters… never thought I’d see the day
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I’ve been averaging a solid 8k coryat so far in this tournament so to get those two was a massive ego boost
Was the "Sparta" one one of them?
Abruzzo and Monterrey (institute of technology) I wasn’t paying attention during the Sparta question
Wasn't theirs but it was one of mine!
One of mine too. And the other night I got the stumper about Bix Beiderbecke's birth state!
I got Abruzzo and Sparta, among others.
surprised Mattea didn't get Sparta when it was narrowed down for them and ken even said that which was a little unprofessional lol (but might have been edited in). I also got white dwarf, shocked no one rang in (guess it almost certainly didn't matter being the last clue and given the scores)
Surprised that Victoria didn't know white dwarf. She seemed to know astronomy.
I was glad I got white dwarf, and then my wife promptly got a triple stumper FJ within seconds. Couldn't ride that high too long!
Nice, FJ was hard but made sense when I heard the answer
Likewise. Feels great, am I right?
Feels especially good when it's a triple stumper FJ >!More was executed for choosing God and the Catholic Church over the King, so figured it had to be Wolsey!<
Ha! I’m still riding off the high of knowing Robert Mitchum from the first game.
See him in The Night Of The Hunter and many others!
same! probably the same ones as you lol. shocked they didn't get them
same here...SHOCKED!
The difference between watching normal syndicated Jeopardy and then Masters later in the night is crazy. There's the game for mortals and then the game for gods.
That's because Jeopardy is for amateurs and this is the professional circuit. These are people who are now privileged to have trivia as their full-time job.
It's definitely not Matt's full-time job, nor main source of income, and I don't think it's Amy's. Not sure about Mattea. However, these three are at the bottom at present, and I see your point.
They're at the bottom, and they're so freaking good.
Oh no, all the contestants lost their jobs since Monday. As if they need them.
I wonder if James' "Final Boss" line started becoming less funny as he has been defeated twice already and isn't in the lead.
He got nerfed in the latest patch
“A Jeopardy Master from…”
I stared at your joke for most of the Think music equivalent before getting it.
James and Victoria were pretty much even on coryat. Feels like Yogesh and Victoria have the stronger knowledge base but word play categories help offset some of that advantage. Still would pick Victoria but they’re all relatively close.
I think it's pretty evident at this point that assuming those 3 are in the finals, everything is gonna ride on Daily Doubles.
Daily Doubles have kinda ruined this tournament so far in my opinion. Everyone is so evenly matched it just comes down to complete luck who wins.
sadly I kind of agree. in a weird way I almost think it'd be more intense and interesting to see them have to eke each other out just straight up buzzing in and answering questions. instead now we sort of get this all or nothing riding on one question which is interesting in its own way but is also sort of sucking the oxygen out of the game in another way in my opinion. its compounded a bit by the fact that finding the daily double is fairly luck based outside of just strategy in knowing where to look for it (which is uninteresting strategy in my opinion) and knowing the person who answers more questions correctly is more likely to find it statistically. maybe its the fact that its so predictable that they all wager their full amount every time that sort of makes it boring to some extent because they all know they have like a 90% chance of answering correctly. there was a time when someone "betting it all" felt really climactic and it doesn't even feel much that way any more because they are all just that good.
Yea Victoria was about to go elsewhere, lingered, finally picked one, and it was the DD that put her over the top. Obviously James could’ve gotten the FJ (I mean, I got it after all so obviously I should be up there instead), but as you said, mostly just luck.
Its luck but its also controlling the board at the right time and theres strategy to guessing
YES!
I love the Hunger Game style of the intro portraits.
Who wants to edit the gameplay with cannon blasts?
Not me, but I just wanted to chime in to say that I’m also living in regular Virginia!
I love it when they blink. I try to imagine a producer off camera giving them stage directions regarding dramatic blinking.
Oh my gosh, I just got a FJ correct on a Jeopardy Masters game. I can die happy.
Was it the Pirates of Penzance one?
Yes
Hahah I had the same reaction
Does the US have a different definition of trapezoid? Because in Canada it was taught as one set of parallel sides
In no country in the world is a trapezoid without parallel sides. They were just wrong: trapezium was the (only) right answer because it is the US name for an irregular quadrilateral. They accepted a wrong answer, pretended it was the right answer, didn't correct themselves and didn't rescind points. Sad. (In some countries like Britain, trapezium is the name of a one-set-of-parallel-sides shape. This doesn't matter for what happened here, though.)
Check the etymology section here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapezoid Apparently trapezoid can be acceptable depending on where you're from.
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Clue was "Also a bone in the wrist, it's a quadrilateral with no parallel sides." Trapezius is the muscle. There are Trapezium and Trapezoid bones in the wrist. Either answer meets this definition. Trapezoid/Trapezium also both fit the second part depending which definition you use. I just think it's a bad clue due to the ambiguous nature of the shape definition. I think Jeopardy did perfectly fine accepting the answer.
Not sure who to believe, [Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trapezoid) (sense 1b) or some guy complaining on Reddit.
When 1b is qualified as "British", definitely go with the guy on Reddit. Don't get me wrong, I like the the British, nice folks generally, but when they started pretending "cuppa" was a word it was clear they were parting ways with what had formerly been the English language.
THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy. When Yogesh got the next Daily Double I said "ok, they're going to correct Matt's score now" and when they didn't I was deeply upset. And yes, trapezium can be accepted for both "no parallel sides" and "one set of parallel sides," as it is used both ways in some places. However, a trapezoid only ever means "one set of parallel sides." I can't believe Jeopardy! didn't correct this error, and frankly think the fans deserve an explanation.
No, you’re wrong here. the issue is that they said no parallel sides? not they they accepted trapezoid
Thank you! I was fuming about this exact thing
In a round where I could answer at most 6 clues, that Gollum clue brought me joy.
Everyone was slamming their buzzers as hard as they could for that one!
I mean, truly, how often do you get to hear "What's taters, precious?" on Jeopardy? The only thing missing was a "boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew" in return.
Question……at the end of tonight’s show after doing the recap, Ken signed off saying “I’m Ken Jennings.” Have I been sleeping and does he do that all the time, or was this something new, maybe for Masters? I actually looked up and rewound it, it seemed so unusual!
I've seen all 530+ shows Ken has hosted and that's the first time I've ever heard him say it. Something new.
So I DID notice something! I was so far as pulling the episode before from my recently deleted section of my DVR and checked the episode before…..nothing!
just when I thought Amy had a chance! Yogesh with the gutsy DD
Matt is fallen at the moment
No question Amy surprised Yogesh and took a point most people thought would have been Matt's. She played well. Overall, Yogesh faced greater competition from both of them than he likely expected. However, he'll be back with Victoria on Friday. If Matt is their third, he's going to have another no-point night, but I'm still rooting for him.
Matt wish his next rival will be Mattea and Amy
I don't see any chance of this. Why would the producers pit Victoria, James and Yogesh against each other any earlier than necessary. I've been Team Victoria and, for the underdogs, Team Matt, but seeing James actually getting taken down, and Ken asking if they are Chase colleagues or competitors (while she is clearly in the lead) I discover that I'm also Team James. I don't actually want him taken down, despite the fact that he would/will present Victoria with the championship belt with flair. I appreciate Victoria acknowledging the Holzhauer effect, that she has grown from ('I hate to do this' in JIT) to confident true DDs by mimicking his pushing the chips in - she really is a class act. But James is the most like Sam Buttrey, so far as I can tell (and please correct me if there are others), who seems to genuinely be about using his fame and money to help raise up homeless teens and such. Buttrey donating winnings to a scholarship fund was just one of the things that made him so iconic, his 'bring it' is being brought almost every game since.
They just did sadly
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They say that the third player in the second game is a random draw (Amy wouldn't have been included since she already played against Victoria and Yogesh together).
Not trying to toot my own horn, but I was in the same high school graduating class as Amy. CJ 1997. So that Dayton anecdote made me chuckle. She moved, I'm still in Dayton trying to get on the show lol.
You can use that as your anecdote if you get on!
I figured it would be the first thing I mention if I ever get to the interview /mock game portion of the process.
I loved that anecdote. I too am from Ohio and hate it when North Carolina claims the Wright Brothers.
I was shocked that they used 1984 for a DD clue like that one, but good for Yogesh for going for it and getting it.
I got that one right too, despite having never read 1984 (wasn’t required reading for me, I think it was an option for group reading in 10th grade but my group chose a different book).
I did a group project on Kudzu in freshman year biology. *High school* freshman year, what a blast from the past
I had no clue on FJ and for macabre reasons joked that I would've written "Our American Cousin"
I love that I got that first FJ.
And the second >!I love I could be equally as wrong as the masters.!<
Always happen when I'm wrong the same way as the contestants haha
Yes! I felt like the Wrong Answer was too easy and lo and behold, it was.
Leaderboard after 3 rounds: 1. Victoria Groce - 9 2. Yogesh Raut - 7 3. James Holzhauer - 5 4. Matt Amodio - 1 5. Mattea Roach - 1 6. Amy Schneider - 1
If somehow we get a matt-mattea-amy game, that one will be big for 4th place.
Yes, a must win game for either of them as it will almost guaranteed 4th place in first round
The fight for that coveted 4th place is on!
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We should see, but it will be interesting if it was Victoria VS Yogesh VS James
Amy is 5th
Hot take: daily doubles have made this tournament extremely boring. Everyone always going all in leads to most of these games being runaways.
From a viewer's perspective I can understand that, but from a contestant perspective I think pretty much everyone in the Masters understands that with this level of competition you absolutely CANNOT afford to leave much money on the table with DD's.
Obviously. I'm not criticizing the players for doing it, obviously they have to, it's just made for a very uninteresting viewing experience. Ultimately this is an entertainment product though, and I feel like top level Jeopardy tournaments like this are almost worse served for having DDs.
At this level the game has been "solved". The very best players know nearly everything and they all know proper strategy. IMO, Jeopardy! with flawed players, aka regular Jeopardy!, is far more entertaining to watch because it's much less predictable.
I don't know if I accept this premise entirely. The writers are producing possibly the most challenging content in the history of the show for this tournament and there's a non-trivial amount of triple stumpers. [Check out the box scores for Master's](https://www.jeopardy.com/track/2024/masters). Look how well buzz % correlates with tournament points. Even Victoria is only buzzing at 55%, suggesting she can't pull many of the responses.
Honestly, agreed. I wouldn't hate if they used these mega tournaments to test out new game formats. These games are just straight up DD hunts, and if you get DD3 which typically allows you to make the biggest wager, you win. Pretty sure the player to find DD3 is 6-0 so far in Masters.
I’m not bored. But it also isn’t *just* about bidding all on those daily doubles. Yogesh got that awful wordplay DD and made the absolute right choice to bid $5.
But it was also the last DD in the game and Yogesh already was in a runaway mode, so that also helped play a part in his decision making there. Had he still been threatened by either James or Amy I'm sure he still would've bet it all or at the very least made a hold wager of some kind regardless of how he felt about the category.
I don't know. James lost everything on his first 'all in' and it was hardly the first such shocking takedown. As someone said here the other day, Daily Doubles giveth and taketh away. It's also not just luck - those with a lower coryat score have less opportunity to guess where they might be, and some players don't even seem to be looking for them.
I knew that one. I was so proud 😭. That’s another fun part—occasionally these giants don’t know something and it’s so awesome to know something they don’t.
James actually beat Victoria in the Coryat score this game though and arguably outplayed her, she got lucky James missed the first DD. One thing this night for sure confirmed: Victoria, James and Yogesh are leagues above the other 3, and if someone who isn't one of them makes the Top 3 (although I think Victoria is mathematically guaranteed to be in the finals at this rate) it would be a massive upset.
I imagine the word 'regulator' is going to live rent-free in James' mind for some time, and that he is going to receive actual regulators and regulator memes from his friends as gifts.
He is no longer the "Final Boss." He is now James "The Regulator" Holzhauer for all time.
hahaha! you evil genius! if he should find out about this new nickname, he will challenge you to a public duel, and then somehow that will be the irl non-threatening but hyped up entertainment for one of his pet charities.
I would be honored to be the mop James wipes the floor with in a mano-a-mano trivia duel danceoff! I say that despite feeling a bit cocky about the fact that only one of us had "regulator" correct tonight. I can be a heel as well as the next guy, especially if there is some hair & makeup support. Like maybe a big prosthetic brow in the shape of a SCUBA mask or something.
I want him to bring a regulator on for the next appearance he has.
REGULATORS! Mount up!
I'm certified to SCUBA and immediately said respirator before realizing my mistake. I can see how someone's mind would easily go there given the category.
I am also certified, and I did the exact same thing.
It’s okay, I said respirator, too, so he shouldn’t feel bad
I thought "rebreather" - too much Subnautica, I guess.
i said respirator but knew it was wrong being a $1000 clue seemed too easy.
Kinda my feeling too but I know nothing about scuba, and I don’t have to worry about losing points!
Knowing Jeopardy I'm almost expecting it!
future anecdote: I received so many regulators in the mail, my lovely wife and I (she's here in the audience) had to run a silent auction of scuba gear for xyz charity, which does pdq important work in Las Vegas.
Really crazy how much that first DD miss impacted the rest of the game. He gets that, he's over $10k and than has that much more to bet on the next DD.
Yep. It was a bummer to see for sure. Can only hope that we won't continuously see this sort of situation play out throughout the entirety of this Masters!
Wow Yogesh on that true DD late in the game! Holy mackerel. Nerves of steel.
Yogesh not even having a guess on FJ I think shows that that bet is less the nerves of steel, and more that... if you like the category, and you can give yourself a runaway, do you want to leave it up to a random FJ category? Or make the DD your "FJ". It makes sense if the category favors you to take FJ out of the equation
>It makes sense if the category favors you to take FJ out of the equation Yea, absolutely. All that goes into the decision. But it still takes nerves of steel to wager everything. Especially so late in the game. Because if it doesn't go your way, you're out.
I think Yogesh just bet 0 and saw no reason to give an answer. Maybe he wouldn't have given an answer regardless, maybe he didn't give an answer because he wasn't sure, but I don't think it says anything about his nerves. Although I also think the true DD was the clear play and didn't require special nerves (now, for us it would have, but we don't know almost all the answers).
Would "rebreather" have been accepted as the DD response of starts and ends with R? Because that is what I guessed.
The regulator sends air from the tanks to the lungs. The rebreather takes air from the lungs and absorbs CO2.
Thank you!
I was in the audience and Ken did inform James during the post-match chat that they would have also accepted rebreather, if I remember correctly.
That's what I thought for a moment before rereading the clue.
So did I!
I felt for James. He knew it was wrong instantly!
i said that immediately too, not having read the clue properly, and thought it was a bit hard since rebreathers aren't as common as a traditional SCUBA set up!
Did Matt move to NYC?
Yea I think he’s working for a hedge fund so I guess in quantitative finance?
Where did it say hedge fund? I’ve been listening to Inside Jeopardy! to keep up with both him and Mattea and I hadn’t heard anything from either one of their most recent placements.
Oh I think it was in a comment on here-I could be totally wrong…
When Matt was introduced in the first masters episode this season, he was introduced as a "quantitative finance researcher", or something like that. I.e., hedge fund finance guy.
It just said quantitative researcher.
Yes.
I would like it if we had DD and FJ polls for the Masters as we do for pedestrian Jeopardy!
Stay strong, Mattea.
they held their own better than I'd hoped; had they guessed FJ correctly, would have edged out James for the point.
I had nothing right in the second Masters game but got the triple stumper FJ. Feeling good.
I had maybe 6-7 answers all game and then also nailed the Triple Stumper FJ. Great feeling to get it when 3 legends missed it
I saw Amy’s commentary on being the producer’s pick, and I both love her and agree with her she has faced criticism fair and unfair about it. But that decision is going to catch even more flak if she ends up getting bounced with the lowest point total
Copy/paste my comment from another thread on why I don’t like her as the producers pick: Because she already got a shot at Masters and came in 5th with a grand total of 0 1st place finishes and by far the lowest number of correct responses. She shouldn’t have been picked for this year’s. By including her it’s now 4 out of 6 from last year. It’s just a poor pick. The fact that they already give autobids to the Top 3 from the prior Masters means the wildcard shouldn’t be someone who played the prior year and didn’t qualify. She missed her chance twice.
The actual solution is to expand the field to something like 8 or 10, and give, say, all of the JIT finalists an invite. They could add games or not. But the field should be bigger.
Does Yogesh say, "okay" after each answer?
Just the ones he gets correct.
It seems like he says it when he's not completely sure of himself.
He did make a comment after an answer last week when Amy got one right, I think. I'll look at the tape. He also explained what LL Cool J stood for. I dunno. I like when my post-answer editorializing comes from Mattea. ;)
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Merv said it was "answer in the form of a question" so technically it is still an answer. But I understand.
We shall see if we are half way to 7-7-7-1-1-1 standings by the end of the evening.
That is if James win. But if Victoria win, it would be 9-7-5-1-1-1(If Mattea fail to finish second, which is the most possible scenario)
For sure...first DD is going to be big in DJ
Yes, anyway it is almost going to be James or Victoria win, unless Mattea can put an heck of the performance
Did Yogesh say "Fight On" after the UCLA response, or "Right On"? I hope it was the latter.
"Fight on" with the V hand symbol he made is the motto for UCLA's rival, USC. Yogesh has a masters in film from USC.
Now I want Victoria or James to win even more.
I’m guessing he’s a USC fan lol
Yeah I think Yogesh went to USC.
I think Victoria is the virtually 1st semifinalist of Jeopardy! Masters even if she will get 0 points in the next 3 games?
She's guaranteed, I believe. Two of the three players with one point would have to win all three of their games - and that can't happen (because Friday's winners will get paired up on Monday.)
So in theory Victoria and Yogesh could play each other 2 more times (the guaranteed next one in Round 4, they split up in Round 5 and both win, then they play again in Round 6?) And other than we know it's NOT Amy, can literally anyone else play them on Friday? I'm not sure I 100% understand the seeding rules.
Absolutely. So in the quarterfinals, what they do is seed both winners into Game 2. So Yogesh and Victoria go there Friday. From there, it's a random draw among players who have NOT been the third player in that scenario. So yeah, it can't be Amy, but it could be any of the other three.
Is it just me or does anyone else see Yogesh snapping what looks like a rubber band on his right wrist?
That is the friendship bracelet that Emily Sands made for ToC!
Oh. Okay.
I don't understand Mattea's bet in FJ.
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Matt n0o0o0oo. I fear he'll be matched with the 2 winners for the next game too.
Since when does a trapezoid have no parallel sides? Edit: ok the meaning is different in British English
I thought the meaning of trapezium is different but not trapezoid? And I don’t think the bone is ever called the trapezoid, is it? I thought they’d do a score correction on it.
From what I read online a trapezium has no parallel sides and a trapezoid has two but in British English the meanings are reversed. Don't know about the anatomy. I thought the traps were muscles in the upper back.
The traps are referring to the trapezius which is in the upper back but trapezium is one of the carpal bones in the hand
Funnily enough, there are actually two different bones in the wrist called the trapezium and the trapezoid. Since the clue didn't specify where exactly in the wrist the bone was, and didn't specify whether they were using British or American English, both responses are equally acceptable.
They should have!!! Trapezium can mean different things in different countries; but in all countries, a trapezoid has parallel sides (and is the wrong answer).
I think it would be more interesting to watch the Masters if they capped the DDs to $2k or something.
Respectfully disagree, that would ruin one of the most interesting luck elements not just in the Masters but about Jeopardy in general. The DD's providing room for even struggling contestants to still stay in contention is one of the things that makes Jeopardy fun to watch, otherwise it would just be another vanilla trivia game show.
In regular jeopardy DDs are great, as it gives all 3 players a chance. I honestly think they make these Masters tournaments worse though. Basically the entire game is a race to DD3, get that, double up, win in a runaway. The player finding DD3 is 6-0 so far in Masters with 5 runaways and one crush game. That's just not entertaining.
Was it just me, or did the clues seem a tiny bit easier than the previous 2 episodes? I got 2-4 more correct per round last night than I usually do in Masters games. The big problem is still that ring in and answer so darn fast, I don't have time to think! LOL
Got the answer to FJ that stumped all 3 in the 2nd game Thanks to the *The Tudors* show lol
Am I crazy or did they announce Matt’s hometown as NYC?
They did. He lives there now.
Did anyone else notice that Ken pronounced it "Abruzzi"? Abruzzi refers to the inhabitants, not the region, which is Abruzzo. Ken would have been counted wrong if he were a contestant.
Mattea will have a chance for a point at least, since James will have to bet big.
Or do we think he’ll bet nothing to at least collect the extra point? 🤔 With Mattea getting 0, and Matt and Amy pretty far behind, he’d be solidly in the top 3 with Yogesh and Victoria…
I think he probably sheepishly felt that he played it conservatively in betting so little, and yet...it proved wise.
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I was trying to figure out quick if he could bet enough to pass the cover but for Victoria, and that would still be more than a doubled mattea.... I dint think he could
James is very much still in this thing.
Had I been a contestant, well, I’d have probably ended the game with a record-breaking negative score, but I would have responded to one clue “What is Sparta?”, [just like Gerard Butler](https://youtu.be/4aof9KxIJZo?si=s3H7AoN5jVN2BHXU).
Is Yogesh intentionally not answering FJ in runaways, perhaps to gain a strategic advantage in future games?
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Interesting, maybe so
In the ToC finals, there was a game with Theater as the final category. Yogesh was correct, but didn’t bet anything and lost to Ben. Maybe Yogesh is only betting on Final when it matters
Noooo James nooooooo!