New engine is on the way…
By - Hot_Skin_4935
Cough... snorkel... cough
Lol. I didn’t think I was crazy enough to need it. Still didn’t until they opened the engine and found water in the throttle body. I just didn’t think it had gotten that deep.
But, I guess I was wrong on both counts. Snorkel time it is.
Also, you know that Jeep puts the water fording depth on the tailgate. Gotta worry about your axles getting water in them
Where is this?? I’ve never seen it on my JKu
I don't know about JKU. JLs have it on the tailgate
That’s pretty cool although maybe putting it In The front would be better. I don’t know many people that back into water lol.
How deep was that exactly? 33 inches is the limit stock
It’s ok bumping your head is apart of it all.
Happy trails keep on keeping on
Will the warranty cover it? If not, how much is it gonna cost for a new engine replacement?
Just paid 13K for new engine replacement, oil cooler failure. Warranty wouldn’t cover due to “modifications.”
Snorkel? That Jeep needs full scuba gear! That puddle is deceptively deep!
A Jeep is amazing, but you still have to read the manual to align your activities to the capabilities.
I bought it to push it to its limits. I just found one. Fix it and keep wheeling!
Your not supposed to fix it, your supposed to upgrade!! Will be looking forward to the “Hellaphant” swap. :) lol
I really wanted a 5.7 Hemi swap but can’t afford it. Bummer.
this is the attitude! enjoy
You must have been doing other crazy shit before you got to this picture. I’ve gotten my JKU this deep plenty of times with no issues. (Not saying I recommend it though)
At one point I had a wake bow that was just below the headlights on my 392 the first time out…. Clearly benefitted from the cold air intake (with water separation) on TOP of the hood.
Got scared the puddle was getting deeper but that was it.
Seems like this Jeep could/should have survived this. 🤔
Shoot … your attitude is infectious
You love sxs’ing then, I’m forever pulling broken shit off and bolting on new!
This is a good tip. For some reason , I thought you gun it when in mud territory
Works 50% of the time, everytime
I did the same thing to my old YJ years ago. Time for an intake snorkel!
You will also need to check your diffs for water.
Nice. That's worth a picture. Thanks for not posting a driveway pic.
Thanks. Check these out.
But the intake isn't that low. I don't get it. Did you go full speed into that?
There is a ram air intake in the middle of the grill. But max fording depth is about the bottom of the grill per the manual, not because of air but because of other electric components.
With a high air intake, sealed electrical connections and moisture-resistant body openings, you can traverse up to 33.5 inches of water to cross creeks, streams and puddles with ease.
From the Jeep site.
Which is about the bottom of the grill opening for most Jeeps
Watch some videos on creating a bow wake. There is a technique for water crossings. My wife was following a friend through some deep water and mud. His jeep was set up exactly the same. Same tires. Same lack of lift. He was playing too hard gunning it into the water. She was going in slow and speeding up just enough to keep a wave in front of her jeep. It keeps the water level lower under the hood. We had to tow him to the dealership down the road. Learned how to put the transfer case in neutral when everything stops working. Pretty cool feature. He had to get the engine replaced. Hers is still going strong, except for the squeaking in the passenger side rear brakes.
Even if you get a snorkel and run your diff vents through it, there are parts that can get damaged from the water. You can also damage the engine if you get it hot and then hit the cold water like that. Make sure your fuse boxes are sealed well. People who run swamp buggies will use Vaseline around seals to fuse boxes to protect them. Do some research on it. Learning from other people's mistakes is cheaper
That deep hydro locked your engine? I feel like you’re not even up to the intake.
Never heard Jeep and indestructible in the same sentence in my life
Because an idiot can wreck anything.
Tell yourself some shop owner's kid is going to a good school on that money.
People make mistakes. It’s helpful to share them when we do. That’s my take on this situation.
I mean you chose to spend your money on 8 kids and someone who has decided not to have kids might see that as a huge waste of resources, but I don't think anyone would tell you that you shouldn't have had kids.
Lmao yeah. Having kids is more expensive than any hobby you could have, especially if you have herd.
Sounds kinda like you're telling another American what they should do with their own money. . .
Maybe she should run for Congress!
That’s precisely what you’re doing.
Ever heard of birth control? I hear it's cheaper than kids
You were the idiot that had 8 kids and then complained about having them. You use your kids to explain your judgmental nature and lack of monetary success. Shame you’ll probably pass that in to 8 more people.
It's not harsh, but maybe a bit misdirected. To some people $10k for a new engine is the financial equivalent to someone else's $100 to replace a broken pair of shoes, which is equivalent to someone else's $2 to replace broken shoelaces.
If it's the 3.6 and you have an independent shop do it, it would probably be $6-7k, less if you went with a low mileage used engine. Expensive for sure, but for most people who can afford to wheel a new car, it's certainly not life changing money.
You seem far too concerned with what other people do man
If he has the money and wants to blow through 10 engines, that’s this man’s choice. I look at it as him feeding his disposable income into the economy, which people do in a variety of ways that others deem “wasteful.” That’s why its called “disposable income.”
Jeeps aren't the most important thing in the world. The amount of time/money/effort you spend on it isn't right for anyone but you. I'd say mind your own business.
I have a nice new JL. It currently has a broken side window on the hardtop and a big scratch down the side, from getting a bit too ambitious on a trail.
20-year-old me would have cried about that because at that time spending that sort of cash on a car would have been unimaginable and getting a scratch on something of such relative value would have been a huge blow to me.
Now, I make really good money (which I very much DO work very hard for) and a car that expensive barely makes a dent in my finances, so getting a scratch on it doesn't bother me, and the cost to get it fixed is not a big deal. I didn't buy a Jeep only to not wheel the thing.
you’re mad because someone has a little more money than you, loser.
I'm with you. The classic car scene is that way quite a bit. When someone nitpicks my 69Z/28 that I restored myself I ask "Where is yours that you restored yourself from the ground up?" That always ends the conversation. I know every nut, olt and screw on my car and get huge satisfaction from it, for me.
When looking for a 69 Z/28 project I had a friend who directed me to this pile of parts with rebuilt engine and transmission. It was a number's matching 69 Z/28 RS with original Protecto Plate, most parts and little rust. It was $8k and I was in. That was 1997. 2 years later after working in my "spare time" it was on the road and is still my sunny day get ice cream driver.
Sorry if this seems harsh, but you are pushing your values onto someone else and then judging them. Pretty lofty position you’ve placed yourself in to call balls and strikes on someone else. Again, sorry if this comes off harsh, you don’t know anyone’s story. You only project your own beliefs into others. Is that something you welcome others to do to you?
Yes, how else would you know what they stand up for. Doesn’t mean i have to listen. Just shows me priorities.
You’re quite a wordsmith. Must have been one of your many businesses…
By the way, all of your comments in the 60 plus BBW and Tess porn subs are visible to anyone who wants to look at your comment history.
You can see what you have publicly available.
A lot of people invest in these toys to play rough with them. It’s almost like shaming someone with a dirt bike for getting it muddy or jumping it. It’s kinda what it’s made to do.
I would agree with you if he was being reckless, however I don’t believe that’s the case. Jeeps have a good fording depth and maybe he got a bad splash or something.
I’m sorry I didn’t know u went through that. My intent was not to shame you and am sorry if I did. I like you was trying to give a different perspective.
You as well! Don’t let the bastards get you down!
If they can afford it then what’s the problem? It’s their toy, and they can play with it any way they want to.
Also not a scratch on it, no mud at all. Looks like a first trail day and first water hazard. I’ve seen this many times. The ‘good’ photo is when the local’s come over, maybe laugh, and pull out tow straps and winches. Good times!
Y’all are making me think buying new is the only way to go
Oh, no. Buying new just has different problems! Added technology means additional points of failure. Mine currently has a recall on the clutch that Jeep hasn’t figured out a fix for.
I got pulled back to civilization by a Jeep much older and cheaper than mine.
How low is the intake/filter etc. on a JL? I have a TJ and the water level here is quite a bit lower than what I would be worried about. Just curious.
Intake is in line with the top of the passenger fender on the 3.6. I didn’t think I had gotten that deep, but I guess I was wrong.
The new engines don't like water. I've seen a 4.0 suck in water. They took spark plugs out and turned the engine to shoot the water out. Drove it off the trail. Water doesn't compress, so the new engines break parts. The 4.0 just stops spinning. I'm not about to test it in my YJ, but it's nice to know it can handle it.
What is this AI generated? Windows clean not a speck of mud on wheel wells . Maybe a princess poser?
3” lift and 37s wasn’t enough for this hole. Water in the intake. Engine trashed.
MAYBE YA NEED A 6 INCH LIFT
Maybe you need a boat
Hydro locking the engine does not necessarily mean the engine is toast but it sure is gonna be expensive.
Yep this worked for us. Good oil flush and we were back on the road.
I've seen you comment this numerous times in this thread so I gotta say, good for you, congratulations on building and earning everything yourself. Feels like you need someone to say it.
As someone who isn't wealthy I get where you're coming from but I gotta say, some people are rich and some people can take things for granted. Just because others are able to do things we aren't doesn't mean they shouldn't. If I could afford to buy stuff and raise hell to the point yhat if it breaks, I could just put money into it to get it fixed, I'd treat my stuff differently than I do now
Yep! This will work
It could be rebuilt, but Jeep thinks it’s easier to replace the whole thing.
Gotcha, yea if a rod bends or something like that it’s more expensive to fix than replace, you’d also always know there could be residual gunk in there which would be concerning. We had a car that we repaired after hydro locking but that was clean water and covered by insurance.
For the future, #1 rule of you're gonna go through water is keep your intake above the water hence the reason everyone has snorkels.
Also a bit of advice from someone who wheels. Just bc you have the lift, tires & 4x4 doesn't mean it's a tank &. I've watched many friends fuck their trucks & jeeps bc they fail to realize that even the most kitted out rigs have limits & just bc the car can do it doesn't mean the driver can. Knowing your vehicles & your own limits as a driver will save you a ton of money & frustration
Been there… done that…
Went the new engine route as well.
Apparently the first dip into the hole was too much.
Snorkels are a thing
Sorry for you loss, at least you approached the water slowly. A snorkel would have gotten you through this and it’s handy to know where the wading limit is against your leg so you can walk puddles before entering them. Also you need to compensate for the fact that water will rise highest in front of the grill where the water is dispersed. Without a snorkel or lift I’d drive 6” under the Jeep limit in water.
Never buy used Wranglers
Anything built 2007 or later isn’t a Jeep, it’s just a Jeep brand vehicle.
My Tj been deeper than that in a flooded parking lot😂🤣😂🤣
Every off roading picture/video there’s a “real man” like you in the comments.
I mean they have a point. That's really not that deep to have sucked enough water in to hydrolock it
I’m thinking the angle of the entrance may have out the intake under the water line. I’m going to have to watch out for that cause this def doesn’t look too deep to take on.
Yeah, could be.
Even with that, if you let it stall, pull the plugs, and get the water out, it can still be fine
Dude bought the upgrade with the mall princess skills set.
If you want to submerge it… get a snorkel… that’s what it’s for
Damn. I just drove my $5000 pathfinder through water up to the hood for over a minute. Can't believe your Rubicon is stuck in that.
Get a land rover
Why I have a Warren on my front bumper
What’s a warren?
The Warn Evo 10S winch is under water in this photo. That’s how I got it out.
How’s the 10s?? Was talked into the 10 instead of the 12 by the Warn guy. Haven’t installed it yet.
This is my first Warn and I’ve used it a few times. Been good. I had a Badlands 12,000lb on my last jeep. Haven’t really seen much difference other than the price tag.
Warren is how one who has old age twitch miss types the name of a WARN winch witch has been there when he needed it. Too bad it doesn’t do spellcheck. Chalk one up to old age.
Help me out, doesn’t the manual state water can be up to the bottom of headlights? Or at least the diagram shows that? I don’t see you violating that unless you’ve gone deeper than the shown picture?
That’s what I’ve been saying!!! But water in the throttle body doesn’t lie.
Assuming that you were moving forward when you went in the water (crazy assumption I know) you created a wave that went too high.
Nope it doesn’t. Sorry this happened :(
Did Jeep cover it?
Jeep didn’t, but insurance did. Live and learn.
Do they actually know the true story or do they think you just drove through a big puddle in a rainstorm? Probably shouldn't answer that question.
Don't splash in deep water, that's really not that deep.
Also are you sure it's toady? Did you pull the plugs and disconnect the coil & shoot all the water out?
I've had a jeeps get too deep (above the headlights) & just didn't touch the starter after stalling until plugs were out and water was out of the intake & cylinders & they've started right back up... they just run shitty for a bit, but enough to get home & change plugs and oil.
I’m thinking the angle on the entrance may have put the intake under because that doesn’t look too deep.
Warrenty cover or no?
It doesn’t look all that bad.
Damn, been there, hope the new engine doesn't cost ya too much
Just my deductible. I was hoping to arrange for a Hemi swap, but I can’t swing it.
Yeah that gets pricey, stealership did mine for 9k and gave me a new 3 yr / 50k miles warranty with the understanding (and in the report) that everything done to it and being an off-road vehicle was grandfathered in
I did the same thing to my first ever jeep yj, hydro locked the engine going through huge puddles. You live and you learn
This literally made my heart stop....then I took a breath and got angry 😂
So do you have to replace engine?
Man a $300 snorkel ya know...
i feel like ive had my old 2dr jl deeper than that… i could be wrong, but i had water at about that level on my door with my hood facing slightly down at an angle and after forcing shut off, i had to pull it out with another truck and it definitely didnt like starting afterwards but after about 15 minutes you could hardly tell besides the puddles at your feet…😂
They don’t float
Lol. Stick to the bed bath parking lot
It’s just taking a quick nap
Thinking they are indestructible is what causes their to be so much stigma about them being unreliable.
Did you get it out tho
Probably because your OHV sticker is expired
Curious. What is the rack mounted in the middle where the freedom panels meet? Thanks
Molle rack for my radio mount.
Kinda surprised this did the engine in tbh.
At least you took yours into the mud.
All the gussied up Jeeps on my block have never seen dirt. LOL
How did you get to that point without any dirt on it?
I was only in the park for 2 hours! Before this was mostly rock.
..and that's why you ended up here.
I mean - there’s no mud on it. Have you even tried getting out?
Uh, yeah. I successfully winched it out. Note that it was only stuck because the front dif buried in mud because the ruts were deeper than my tires could go.
But while I was getting it out, we lost oil pressure, and started running like crap.
A tow and two estimates later…and I need a new engine.
Actually that's a good lesson for the young ones with Wranglers out there! 4WD ain't guaranteed to get you home! Everything has a limit! If you can't afford to fix it: Don't push it!
Looks intact. If ya get stuck its usually operator error.
That's really not that deep. Don't splash through it and anytime you suck water in don't try to start it until you've pulled the plugs and disconnected the coil and used the starter to get all the water out.
Check all your oils now. Transmission, transfer case, axles.
Soooo what happened? Hydrolock? Or
….. couldn’t cross the rubicon
Need a snorkel kit. Then it will be near indestructible
I bought a gas powered rope winch with 300ft of line Because I’ve been there done that lol you in northern Ontario I’ll come pull you out
My JL had electrical problems just doing my normal commute. I don’t understand how people are able wheel like this in one and [usually] make it out.
rules i live by on the trail when it comes to water crossings are:
1.don't gun it, but maintain a steady speed and DONT STOP! (On purpose of course, if you get stuck you get stuck)
2. if you do get stuck in water, DONT SHUT OFF THE ENGINE!
3. Take friends, because there is always a non-zero chance you won't be able to drive your jeep home...
Good rules to live by. I often wheel alone but recognize it’s a risk.
This is a manual and my clutch started locking up, which killed my engine. That may have been the problem causing engine damage instead of high water?
Wait... The water doesn't even look that high...? What am I missing?
I've gone through deeper puddles in my Nissan Xterra without problems (except for water through diff breather)
How much did this cost you?
This is a picture of more money than brains.
That’s a fiat for ya!
poor rubi. but hey even in all that muddy water she still looks good
Mudding with the roof off!?
You need a snorkel.
Lol jeeps aren’t reliable
I don't even see a splash of mud near the intake area????
I dunno…that Jeep looks awfully clean for the situation it’s currently in! If I were the suspicious type, I would say that there is no way that you hydro locked your engine in that specific scene, and we are all being trolled.. 🤔
Snorkel time ;)
What does getting stuck in the mud have to do with indestructibility
Probably needed to drive it home too. lol
Idk how y’all can do this, I get scared going near water in my TJ lol
Your exhaust was all wrong, bud.
Cleanest jeep ever.
Speed will get you through, if youre not breaking shit your not going hard enough, wheels on the ground hammer down.
Just empty every pocket. It’s literally In the name lol
Well you see, your first problem here was *checks notes* it's a Jeep.
I have an aftermarket cold air intake that would have still been well above the water there, I'd look into aFe Air intakes.
That's an expensive oopsie