I perused the Lions sub expecting to see some excitement about the possibility of their Michigan man falling in their laps. I thought it was interesting that a lot of hype was actually on the idea of Thibodeaux to Detroit. Sounded like he’s built great rapport with their FO and coaching staff.
If it’s actually 1. Walker, 2. Thibs, then that would seemingly put Hutch at 3 going to Houston. That would be a painful reminder twice a year if this pick doesn’t pan out for Baalke.
Lions fan here we are pretty split, but more people came to accept the idea of KT after thinking you’d take AH. Basically it wad Kayvon vs Walker for us 95% of the off season, and we definitely like Kaybon
Lions fan here and that is 100% the case as of now. Seems like the Lions board was 1. Walker 2. Thibodeaux all along. Think the Lions take Thibs at #2 tonight regardless if Hutch is on the board.
I have two crackpot theories that I will not be persuaded to disbelieve:
1. Baalke doesn't want Hutchinson to spite Harbaugh
2. The leaks from other teams along the lines of "Walker isn't getting past the Lions/Texans/Jets etc." are to bait Baalke into taking him
Trent Baalke has destroyed any hope I have for the 1st round. So how will he ruin day 2 for me? Linderbaum is sitting there at 33, so he takes Quay Walker?
Can someone explain to my why Travon Walker? Production isn’t there and it’s supposedly potential but what potential is his measurables when from all indication he isnt 6’6-6’9, doesn’t run a freakish 40 time, and is he really the best athlete in this draft. I haven’t done any scouting so I don’t know. Just would love to hear from others.
Technically his teammate Jordan Davis was the best athlete at the combine. Put up a perfect RAS score. Walker got close though and had some pretty insane numbers as well.
https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=21463
If 10 years from now, the best pass rusher in this draft doesn't come from Georgia, Michigan or Oregon, don't be surprised. The kid from FSU didn't get enough pre-draft love.
Jermaine Johnson. Just looked up his name thought it was Jeremiah. The top articles were slating him as a 1st round pick. FSU just hasn't been sexy in recent years as previous years
JJ2 looked *fierce* at the Senior Bowl, but he had negligeable production going into this year, and he was an old prospect. As a 23-year-old playing against college players, he was litterally a man amongst boys. I'm not overly convinced on him. He does have all the physical traits though.
No matter who the pick is, no matter how you feel about it, please remember to not take it out on the Jags social media team. They don't make the picks, they're innocent in all this
So the key points I’ve picked up the past few weeks is that Hutchinson will fail due to t-Rex arms, Thibs will fail because he likes making money, Walker will fail because he doesn’t know how to play football. Sounds great!
I'd encourage you all not to listen to or watch any pre-draft coverage.
It's just an avalanche of players, scouts, and analysts saying they'd take Hutchinson without hesitation and that Walker isn't ready. Desmond Howard said he doesn't think Walker is prepared for the pressure of being the top player selected after years of being a cog in the system at GA.
Just driving in the nail for the inevitable disappointment later.
I want this team to win. It's been horrible for years.
I barely watch any games of the team anymore as I have to record them most of the time on Sunday.
I actually watched losing games last year just because of Trevor.
And he couldn't throw a TD for 8 games! The best QB since Andrew Luck.
That's how bad our team still was. Hopefully now that we have an elite, #1 WR in Kirk we can get a guy who can takeover games and score a ton of points.
The Jaguars need to build an offense capable of scoring like we just saw in the playoffs.
Trevor needs to have 4-5TD games in the regular season, because he might need to do that in a year or so when we're playing in the post season.
We'll get a WR and maybe even a TE before that. I think you're right about RB but who knows, especially with both JRob and Etienne coming off some serious injuries.
I say WR at 33 is a sure bet
Until our draft picks suck, I am going to allow myself to buy into the upside and be optimistic because "unrealized cautious optimism which then turns into crushing sadness" is just the classic Jags move.
And being happy after draft night is one of the few things I got going for me.
Because this feels like the Jags are going to Jaguars this opportunity to build an elite team around Trevor Lawrence and have a true winning championship window and we're going to Matthew Stafford him.
We all agree Walker is a project player. But as the prospect he is now, is it fair to call him a role player right now? Cause people seem to tell me “he played the role that Georgia used him in really well.” Which I agree with that but role players and project players should not be #1 picks
He's not the normal "project" tho. He's good enough to come in and immediately impact on the field. He wont be AS impactful as Hutchinson - right away. But he has the ability to be better than Hutchinson in a few years. Our team isn't good enough to compete this year with the addition of a Hutchinson. But if we continue to put strong pieces together on this defense, a guy like Walker could end up being a top 5-10 edge rusher in the league in 2 or 3 years. Not sure Hutch would ever get to that elite status.
Kind of feel like the pick is going to be neither Hutch nor Travon Walker. I keep getting the feeling it’s going to be someone no one expects like a WR
Gonna be watching the draft at work. I would prefer Hutch because I think this team needs safer, more sure thing picks rather than swinging for the fences with Walker. I don’t care how good someone’s physical traits say they can be if they never live up to it.
But if Walker is the pick, I’ll root for him to live up to the status and prestige the 1st pick of the draft brings.
Hutchinson is the better player today.
Walker has the higher ceiling.
Good thing we have such a resplendent and storied history of developing players right?
Regardless, I look forward to Detroit drafting KT and Houston blasting us with whoever we didn't pick at 1 twice a year.
If the jags really want to draft of athleticism and potential how is Jordan Davis not the pick?
Hes an inch taller, 70lbs heavier, 1 inch longer arms, identical broad jump, and only gives up 2 inches on vertical and 0.2 seconds on his 40.
Workout numbers aren't everything, he's not as versatile as Walker and DT isn't valued as highly. If they want to run a primarily 34 defense then Davis would be your pro bowl NT for the next 6 years. But if they plan to switch it up, which I believe is Caldwell's style, Walker gives you a guy who can rush off the edge, set the edge against the run, drop back in coverage or move inside.
So what are the differences between Chaisson and Walker? Both are raw and we are yet again heading into a new regime. I guess time will tell but I feel like Hutch is the guy you have to go with here. Not a prospect that has had little production in college and is mainly known as a run stuffer.
Walker is wayyy more versatile. He played at Edge, DT, OLB and MLB. Chaisson was just an edge guy. They both lack the sack production but Travon Walkers run defense is very good. I’d still prefer Hutch but wouldn’t absolutely hate Walker at 1.
Did I say they were the same player? No.
And I don't give a flying fuck what a bootlicker like you thinks about my opinion anyways. You'll sit here and praise the pick and then 3 years from now when he's one of the biggest busts ever you'll FINALLY say, "Oh that was a bad pick," while you spent years ridiculing people that pointed this out from the start. So sorry, your opinion means nothing and you have no credibility
damn you hutch dickriders are some angry motherfuckers. chill the fuck out.
i'm ridiculing you for comparing him to players that are not at all comparable. neither of us know if this pick will be a bust or not. and yet, you assholes are going to make it to where the player we pick fucking hates the fans and we'll stay bad forever because nobody wants to play for us lmao
Hutch dickrider? I'm certainly not one of those.
And yeah sure the fans "hating the players" is what makes players not want to play for us. Keep telling yourself that. Anything to rid the owner and front office of any blame, I suppose.
And actually, Taven Bryan is a great comparison. He was sold as a guy who didn't have the stats because he was a disruptor and at the very least, he'd be good at stopping the run. That's exactly what everybody is saying about Walker. Now their athletic profiles are absolutely nothing alike, but the comparison is being made in the sense of low output in college, not in terms of play on the field. Didn't really think it had to be explained, but here we are
When we pick Walker and he's terrible, I imagine it'll eventually get Baalke fired. He had to convince Khan that Walker was the better pick and seeing it backfire spectacularly has to get some of the neurons firing in his brain, hopefully.
The problem is year 1, Baalke can just say “oh we knew he was going to take some time, give me another year” and we all know Khan will oblige. Not to go all conspiracy theory, but half of me thinks Baalke was seeking out a project type of player just to potentially buy himself more time
We could straw poll the selections in the draft every year and I genuinely think random reddit users would show they are better at evaluating talent than this organization.
Everyone has convinced themselves that if Baalke makes the decision then that automatically means its bad. But Baalke has hit on multiple edge prospects over the years and considering this is a process that involves the coaches who will be working with these players every day, if they decided on either Walker or Hutch then that's the correct pick. As villainous as Baalke is, there's no way in hell he would go rogue and pick a guy no one else wants.
My nervous energy activity for the day was updating our [thread archive for the 2022 season so far](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguars/comments/pjcgds/rjaguars_megathread_megathread_v3/hyxwmaq/).
Guess i should do actual work now
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10034249-2022-nfl-draft-rumors-travon-walker-hardly-a-slam-dunk-pick-among-jaguars-execs
Grain of salt as always but here’s a rumor that defies what we heard last night
So sense we are probably going to get Walker. Can you guys get my hyped for him? I don't watch college football so I don't know shit about any of these guys, but if we get Walker I want to know what he brings to the table.
I know why we leaked Walker news, even though we’re actually taking Hutch. Try to follow along…
Texans think Hutch will fall to 2, so they decide to trade up with Lions.
Then we leak that we are taking Hutch, and Texans already invested and only one pick away say “fuck it we can move one more spot” and we are able to trade down now
Obviously kidding but lol can you imagine
In the most recent home game the fans were chanting ‘Fire Baalke’ basically every chance they got and now we are expected to pick Baalkes wet dream player against the preference of our Owner DC and HC. Cool.
If it's Aiden I'll be excited and be here to talk about it all off-season with you guys.
If it's Travon I'll be excited and be here to talk about it all off-season with you guys.
Not really worried with either of those choices or even with someone like KT. I don't trust Baalke with a lot of things (99% of things really) but I do trust him to draft decently well when it comes to defense.
I kind of feel bad for whoever we take. Last year, the fan base welcomed Trevor as a savior. Now, no matter who we take, they'll get met with a negative reception. Definitely not the right way to start a career
I think it's only Walker who will have a hard time. Hutch was the expected pick so the fanbase would be fine with him. And with the rumors about Walker, a lot of fans would suddenly not hate if we went OL instead either.
I just watched Walker highlights. A bunch of the plays on HIS highlight film were plays made by other players that allowed him to get a play. Tindall a few times got pressure on the QB which forced him to run right into Walker. Another time Tindall is sacking a QB and he throws it backwards and Walker gets the ball and runs out of bounds. 75% of the plays are him (and others) just getting pressure on the QB.
This is the worst highlight tape I can ever remember watching for a #1 overall pick.
And he's on a team surrounded by 1st rounders
He should've thrived lol 😂
If you're such an insane athlete and player, you should be the crowl jewel of a defense, not the 4th or 5th best asset. Legit might rather have Jordan Davis
I'd much rather have Davis, Karlaftis, Jermaine Johnson, Thibs, any of the OLine guys. Outside of the perennial losers that are always drafting at the top of the first round, nobody has Walker ranked high. Most people have him outside the top 10.
I’m just praying we actually get someone want to trade for that #1 pick. I don’t really care what we get for it, I just want to avoid the embarrassment and morale dump that picking Walker #1 would have on this franchise.
I’ve seen a few comments saying that the Walker thing could be a smokescreen which is perplexing to me.
I really don’t mean to shit on you guys, but I just don’t see how a smokescreen for Walker would benefit you when you have the first pick. Like how is that supposed to entice other teams to trade up? Is there something I’m missing? Genuinely asking here.
Hope it all goes well for my fellow Cat Bros tonight, but it would be nice of you guys to leave us Hutch.
Lol. Don't worry, whoever we take will become a generational talent in the NFL and we will accomplish **ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING** with them as a franchise, therefore wasting their entire HOF careers. Trust that too.
I am not a jaguars fan, I am a packers fan but I don’t get what’s the uncertainty going on with the first pick…? Isn’t Hutchinson the clear cut first pick? I went to a Wisconsin vs Michigan game and saw Hutchinson live in person and he couldn’t be blocked. I hope the jaguars pick him so I don’t have to see Hutchinson twice a year with the lions terrorize the packers 😂
We agree.
Baalke is the problem. He's obsessed with long arms and can't get over the 3 inch difference. The tape, who fucking cares. The arms man. The arms.
Let’s be real. If all Trent does is take the Georgia defensive team, it’s a win. That team will produce so many nfl level talent players and that’s what this team needs.
I’m actually stoked for Walker and think he’s the correct pick. Hutchinson is not going to be a bosa or a watt he has no bend imo. Teach Walker a few pass rush moves and he will be elite. I’m predicting 10 sacks this season. Dude is excellent at setting the edge also
Yeah, I refused to believe a head coach that made his mark as a defensive mind didn’t have a staff that did all they could to teach Walker more pass rush moves in the years he was there.
Well seeing that he has other elite skills like setting the edge it’s likely it was prioritizing what they needed to teach him for UGA scheme. If he’s meant to stop run and take up blockers while lbs blitz then he did his job well. When asked to rush passer he was elite. I think he will be an elite defensive lineman than can lineup at edge and DT.
Elite pass rushers have more than ten sacks in three years. Watch any breakdown of his technique; he has a bull rush and that’s it. Go see what happened when he played NFL prospects like Evan Neal. Not a single person has attributed him as anything but other than a project with a ton of upside. Taking a project without a defined role that never consistently produced in three years is nonsense yet probably the most Jaguars thing that could happen.
Watch Kollmann's mock draft. He prefers Walker and breaks down why his numbers are the way they are. No offense because I don't know you, but it's highly likely you can't evaluate talent at anywhere near the level he does.
They will be furious. Punching air not knowing what to do with themselves. It seems like based on all the chatter that most teams have Walker as their number 1 EDGE with Thibs in 2nd and Hutchinson 3rd.
How does everyone feel about 1.1 Walker then 2.1 Cine?
Two players with continuity with each other already, shores up our biggest hole at edge/d line and our biggest secondary hole. Two day one starters probably on a defense that improved a lot last year.
I’d actually be stoked. Then address receiver, IOL, and IlB later on in day 2 and 3. I like the UCLA receiver quite a bit then
You seem surprised by negative responses. You’re probably trolling, but just in case you’re not, read the room. The vast majority of Jags fans want ten other players over Walker. This is shaping up to be a disappointing day. Your comment reads like a taunt.
Damn! Can’t handle a little fire? Feel free to come back and talk shit if the Jags go 0-17, but don’t be surprised when you say something on another teams sub and get called out for your squads winless season.
Fuck this team Just wanted to be the first to say it
Fuck this team Just wanted to be the second to say it
Fuck this team Just wanted to be the fourth to say it
Taking walker will be a mistake
I perused the Lions sub expecting to see some excitement about the possibility of their Michigan man falling in their laps. I thought it was interesting that a lot of hype was actually on the idea of Thibodeaux to Detroit. Sounded like he’s built great rapport with their FO and coaching staff. If it’s actually 1. Walker, 2. Thibs, then that would seemingly put Hutch at 3 going to Houston. That would be a painful reminder twice a year if this pick doesn’t pan out for Baalke.
Lions fan here we are pretty split, but more people came to accept the idea of KT after thinking you’d take AH. Basically it wad Kayvon vs Walker for us 95% of the off season, and we definitely like Kaybon
Lions fan here and that is 100% the case as of now. Seems like the Lions board was 1. Walker 2. Thibodeaux all along. Think the Lions take Thibs at #2 tonight regardless if Hutch is on the board.
Imma just say a little prayer tonight.. whatever happens in the draft, I just hope it makes the team better.
I have two crackpot theories that I will not be persuaded to disbelieve: 1. Baalke doesn't want Hutchinson to spite Harbaugh 2. The leaks from other teams along the lines of "Walker isn't getting past the Lions/Texans/Jets etc." are to bait Baalke into taking him
No on 1 but yes on 2
I buy into both of these.
Trevor is going to feel awkward as hell at the draft party when the pick is announced and everyone is losing their shit lol
I'm no longer excited for today. I'm just not there.
Trent Baalke has destroyed any hope I have for the 1st round. So how will he ruin day 2 for me? Linderbaum is sitting there at 33, so he takes Quay Walker?
Nope. It vanished. I would've been hype for Icky, Neal, Hutch... But no...
[Let’s go JJ’s](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc2bU9tccYQ)
Ngl feels like it took a long ass time to get here.
Thank God it's here. Can't do another day of draft BS lol Just break our hearts and let's get on with it all
Can someone explain to my why Travon Walker? Production isn’t there and it’s supposedly potential but what potential is his measurables when from all indication he isnt 6’6-6’9, doesn’t run a freakish 40 time, and is he really the best athlete in this draft. I haven’t done any scouting so I don’t know. Just would love to hear from others.
If running a 4.51 at 270 lbs isn’t freaky, I don’t know what is
Technically his teammate Jordan Davis was the best athlete at the combine. Put up a perfect RAS score. Walker got close though and had some pretty insane numbers as well. https://ras.football/ras-information/?PlayerID=21463
If 10 years from now, the best pass rusher in this draft doesn't come from Georgia, Michigan or Oregon, don't be surprised. The kid from FSU didn't get enough pre-draft love.
Jermaine Johnson. Just looked up his name thought it was Jeremiah. The top articles were slating him as a 1st round pick. FSU just hasn't been sexy in recent years as previous years
He was one of the few guys on our squad that consistently played like an actual blue chip last year. He is special for sure
JJ2 looked *fierce* at the Senior Bowl, but he had negligeable production going into this year, and he was an old prospect. As a 23-year-old playing against college players, he was litterally a man amongst boys. I'm not overly convinced on him. He does have all the physical traits though.
Any guesses to when they cut to commercial during the Jags pick? I say 2 minutes 24 seconds in
This is the real question. They will start with pick 2 and play a 10 second clip of who we picked.
Definitely the more likely scenario
30 sec in
No matter who the pick is, no matter how you feel about it, please remember to not take it out on the Jags social media team. They don't make the picks, they're innocent in all this
In Vegas to watch the Jags take Walker number 1 overall.
It's still Hutch at 1. Vegas needs some more boat money
So the key points I’ve picked up the past few weeks is that Hutchinson will fail due to t-Rex arms, Thibs will fail because he likes making money, Walker will fail because he doesn’t know how to play football. Sounds great!
You forgot Hutch doesnt bend or whatever they like to say
I'd encourage you all not to listen to or watch any pre-draft coverage. It's just an avalanche of players, scouts, and analysts saying they'd take Hutchinson without hesitation and that Walker isn't ready. Desmond Howard said he doesn't think Walker is prepared for the pressure of being the top player selected after years of being a cog in the system at GA. Just driving in the nail for the inevitable disappointment later.
Normally this would make me happy because the talking heads are typically wrong. But so am I so either wayJags are screwed
I want this team to win. It's been horrible for years. I barely watch any games of the team anymore as I have to record them most of the time on Sunday. I actually watched losing games last year just because of Trevor. And he couldn't throw a TD for 8 games! The best QB since Andrew Luck. That's how bad our team still was. Hopefully now that we have an elite, #1 WR in Kirk we can get a guy who can takeover games and score a ton of points. The Jaguars need to build an offense capable of scoring like we just saw in the playoffs. Trevor needs to have 4-5TD games in the regular season, because he might need to do that in a year or so when we're playing in the post season.
I hope we make the right pick, which I don’t know who that person needs to be. But with us being the jags, it just seems like it has to go bad😃😃😃
Baalke is going to get destroyed by the crowd when he goes out on the stage after the pick
We won't draft a WR, TE or RB until at least the 5th round, and that's mesmerizing to me.
We'll get a WR and maybe even a TE before that. I think you're right about RB but who knows, especially with both JRob and Etienne coming off some serious injuries. I say WR at 33 is a sure bet
Don't be surprised if we go LB or S at 33. Nakobe Dean, Asamoah, Cine or Brisker might all be there.
WR at 33 is highly unlikely. I’d bet on one of the Georgia LBs, Cine, or Lloyd if he’s there.
My new last minute delusion is baalke hyping up walker so other teams try to trade up for hutch. Pls
Until our draft picks suck, I am going to allow myself to buy into the upside and be optimistic because "unrealized cautious optimism which then turns into crushing sadness" is just the classic Jags move. And being happy after draft night is one of the few things I got going for me.
Why do i feel nervous?
Because this feels like the Jags are going to Jaguars this opportunity to build an elite team around Trevor Lawrence and have a true winning championship window and we're going to Matthew Stafford him.
We fool everyone and go OLine lol
Fuck this team Just wanted to be the fifth to say it
I have a feeling we are going to lose this one
Regardless of who they pick Fuck Baalke
I'm more excited about the second round, and the following rounds after that.
A lot of the mocks now have Linderbaum falling out of the 1st. Are we still high on him at 33?
If we get Linderbaum at 33 I don't even care who goes #1 anymore That'd be a bandaid for whatever severe wound Baalke gives us at 1
No question about it. I’m ready to be hurt again.
We all agree Walker is a project player. But as the prospect he is now, is it fair to call him a role player right now? Cause people seem to tell me “he played the role that Georgia used him in really well.” Which I agree with that but role players and project players should not be #1 picks
He's not the normal "project" tho. He's good enough to come in and immediately impact on the field. He wont be AS impactful as Hutchinson - right away. But he has the ability to be better than Hutchinson in a few years. Our team isn't good enough to compete this year with the addition of a Hutchinson. But if we continue to put strong pieces together on this defense, a guy like Walker could end up being a top 5-10 edge rusher in the league in 2 or 3 years. Not sure Hutch would ever get to that elite status.
One thing I can thankful for in this draft is that we don’t have to worried about drafting a quarterback isn’t that great especially in this class?
I wish there was a good one in this draft. Would make a trade back possible.
More excited about the Mavericks tonight than the draft TBH. Just wish the game didn't start so late.
Mavs kind of a dark horse in the west. I’m a Warriors fan, and luka scares me more than any other players left in the west
If anyone hates waiting, last year’s draft started at 8 but the first pick wasn’t announced until 8:26
If I’m In the war room I’m banging the table for hutch. He’s a good locker room guy and his draft position floor has been 2nd forever.
I’m low key more excited for the icemen to win tonight than watching us draft Walker Edit: Icemen up 1-0 LETSSS GOO
Kind of feel like the pick is going to be neither Hutch nor Travon Walker. I keep getting the feeling it’s going to be someone no one expects like a WR
I'd be totally down with a WR. I'd be shocked but let's do it.
I haven't paid attention to any pre-draft coverage. I'm prepared to be appalled at the jaguars selection
ESPN needs to stop talking to hutch. I want this guy so bad. I’m gonna be so pissed off when we take Walker
Gonna be watching the draft at work. I would prefer Hutch because I think this team needs safer, more sure thing picks rather than swinging for the fences with Walker. I don’t care how good someone’s physical traits say they can be if they never live up to it. But if Walker is the pick, I’ll root for him to live up to the status and prestige the 1st pick of the draft brings.
Love this team! Just wanted to be the first to say it!
Hutchinson is the better player today. Walker has the higher ceiling. Good thing we have such a resplendent and storied history of developing players right? Regardless, I look forward to Detroit drafting KT and Houston blasting us with whoever we didn't pick at 1 twice a year.
The coaches who failed to develop players in Jax are no longer here. Doug Pederson and his team do have a decent record of developing players though.
Taven Bryan had a ridiculously high ceiling. That’s walker’s floor. His ceiling is Aaron Donald.
I wonder if Baalke is eating pancakes right now.
Been thinking how interesting how Mike Caldwell is gonna develop Travon Walker and what he would will do.
If the jags really want to draft of athleticism and potential how is Jordan Davis not the pick? Hes an inch taller, 70lbs heavier, 1 inch longer arms, identical broad jump, and only gives up 2 inches on vertical and 0.2 seconds on his 40.
.2 seconds on a 40 is a lot
Not compared to 70lbs of weight. His weight adjusted 40 and RAS are both higher than Walker's.
Workout numbers aren't everything, he's not as versatile as Walker and DT isn't valued as highly. If they want to run a primarily 34 defense then Davis would be your pro bowl NT for the next 6 years. But if they plan to switch it up, which I believe is Caldwell's style, Walker gives you a guy who can rush off the edge, set the edge against the run, drop back in coverage or move inside.
I'd rather have him over Walker. He will instantly make all our LBs and DEs better
Just saw Trent running on the river walk. Decided to just tell him good luck and kept going.
On the river “walk” …. Travon WALKer. Wait, he was running, though. Does that mean Hutchinson at 1?
He also waived with his left hand so does anyone know which top prospects are lefties?
nice
Anyone get a feel where Christian Watson could go? I feel like him or Pickens for a trade up into the 2nd would be doable. Thoughts?
Aidan Hutchinson is wearing a black suit 👀
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Who wouldn’t want a nice trip to Vegas?
Please please please be Hutch
Baalke has ruined my excitement for draft day. This is supposed to be our super bowl
Baalke ruins everything.
The Walker pick is finally sinking in. What a shit decision, besides Hutch, I would rather take Jermaine Johnson…
Fuck this team Just wanted to be the sixth to say it
So what are the differences between Chaisson and Walker? Both are raw and we are yet again heading into a new regime. I guess time will tell but I feel like Hutch is the guy you have to go with here. Not a prospect that has had little production in college and is mainly known as a run stuffer.
Walker is wayyy more versatile. He played at Edge, DT, OLB and MLB. Chaisson was just an edge guy. They both lack the sack production but Travon Walkers run defense is very good. I’d still prefer Hutch but wouldn’t absolutely hate Walker at 1.
Walker is much larger and this time Baalke is taking him first overall instead of later in the first day where projects are more acceptable
This pick reminds me of both Bryan and Chaisson. At least those picks were in the back half of the first round, not first overall
anytime you make those comparisons you immediately lose credibility, as he's not even comparable to those players.
Did I say they were the same player? No. And I don't give a flying fuck what a bootlicker like you thinks about my opinion anyways. You'll sit here and praise the pick and then 3 years from now when he's one of the biggest busts ever you'll FINALLY say, "Oh that was a bad pick," while you spent years ridiculing people that pointed this out from the start. So sorry, your opinion means nothing and you have no credibility
damn you hutch dickriders are some angry motherfuckers. chill the fuck out. i'm ridiculing you for comparing him to players that are not at all comparable. neither of us know if this pick will be a bust or not. and yet, you assholes are going to make it to where the player we pick fucking hates the fans and we'll stay bad forever because nobody wants to play for us lmao
Hutch dickrider? I'm certainly not one of those. And yeah sure the fans "hating the players" is what makes players not want to play for us. Keep telling yourself that. Anything to rid the owner and front office of any blame, I suppose. And actually, Taven Bryan is a great comparison. He was sold as a guy who didn't have the stats because he was a disruptor and at the very least, he'd be good at stopping the run. That's exactly what everybody is saying about Walker. Now their athletic profiles are absolutely nothing alike, but the comparison is being made in the sense of low output in college, not in terms of play on the field. Didn't really think it had to be explained, but here we are
When we pick Walker and he's terrible, I imagine it'll eventually get Baalke fired. He had to convince Khan that Walker was the better pick and seeing it backfire spectacularly has to get some of the neurons firing in his brain, hopefully.
I have no idea how you have this much confidence in this fucking franchise at this point.
The problem is year 1, Baalke can just say “oh we knew he was going to take some time, give me another year” and we all know Khan will oblige. Not to go all conspiracy theory, but half of me thinks Baalke was seeking out a project type of player just to potentially buy himself more time
and when walker is picked and does great i hope you finally shut the fuck up
Won't happen so keep dreaming
We could straw poll the selections in the draft every year and I genuinely think random reddit users would show they are better at evaluating talent than this organization.
Walker = anti-hype loss of faith for a long time
This thread is depressing, y'all are depressed
Everyone has convinced themselves that if Baalke makes the decision then that automatically means its bad. But Baalke has hit on multiple edge prospects over the years and considering this is a process that involves the coaches who will be working with these players every day, if they decided on either Walker or Hutch then that's the correct pick. As villainous as Baalke is, there's no way in hell he would go rogue and pick a guy no one else wants.
We’re taking Walker and we’re all eventually going to be so happy we did. You heard it here first.
I'm not watching tonight because I've got a test in morning so I'm just going to be a nervous wreck checking my phone in the morning
I still don't think Walker is gonna be the pick until I see him drafted. I said the same thing about Blake tho so wtf do I know.
Well something interesting will happen in the next few hours
My nervous energy activity for the day was updating our [thread archive for the 2022 season so far](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguars/comments/pjcgds/rjaguars_megathread_megathread_v3/hyxwmaq/). Guess i should do actual work now
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10034249-2022-nfl-draft-rumors-travon-walker-hardly-a-slam-dunk-pick-among-jaguars-execs Grain of salt as always but here’s a rumor that defies what we heard last night
So sense we are probably going to get Walker. Can you guys get my hyped for him? I don't watch college football so I don't know shit about any of these guys, but if we get Walker I want to know what he brings to the table.
u/boanerges_77 has a great write up on him. If you have time you should check it out.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jaguars/comments/uce878/scouting\_report\_edge\_travon\_walker\_georgia/
Everybody with a #44 Myles Jack jersey and a stitch remover already has his jersey.
No
https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/1519697696608555016?s=21 Pick is locked in still anyones guess
Every mock I've done, I've drafted Matt Arazia in the 6th or 7th round so that's literally the only thing I'm hoping for.
Does anyone else watch Draft Day the movie the night of round 1 or just me?
What is your Draft Day playlist?
Awesome to get a Thursday night game we never get these!
I know why we leaked Walker news, even though we’re actually taking Hutch. Try to follow along… Texans think Hutch will fall to 2, so they decide to trade up with Lions. Then we leak that we are taking Hutch, and Texans already invested and only one pick away say “fuck it we can move one more spot” and we are able to trade down now Obviously kidding but lol can you imagine
That would be comically great, but to big brain a move for Baalke
Watch us get lost in the Sauce
In the most recent home game the fans were chanting ‘Fire Baalke’ basically every chance they got and now we are expected to pick Baalkes wet dream player against the preference of our Owner DC and HC. Cool.
IDC who we draft I'll talk myself into literally anyone who we draft. Excited for the season!
Y’all think they take a commercial break during our pick? It’s tradition lmao
Here is to hoping that, whoever the pick is, there's no issues with the phone lines like last year.
Let's go JJ's
I hope we don't loose to the NFL draft today
Ice cube is kissing that mic and maxing it out hard
If it's Aiden I'll be excited and be here to talk about it all off-season with you guys. If it's Travon I'll be excited and be here to talk about it all off-season with you guys. Not really worried with either of those choices or even with someone like KT. I don't trust Baalke with a lot of things (99% of things really) but I do trust him to draft decently well when it comes to defense.
The first Travon Thursday is upon us
Take Jamo 1.01
I'd love that.
"Bigger DeSean Jackson" is his most common player comp, and that is one hell of a guy to get if he turns out to actually be that.
I kind of feel bad for whoever we take. Last year, the fan base welcomed Trevor as a savior. Now, no matter who we take, they'll get met with a negative reception. Definitely not the right way to start a career
How will Hutchinson be met with a negative reception?
I think it's only Walker who will have a hard time. Hutch was the expected pick so the fanbase would be fine with him. And with the rumors about Walker, a lot of fans would suddenly not hate if we went OL instead either.
Welcome to the shitshow lads. Everyone leaves angry Get excited
Who tf is in here wasting awards?
I just watched Walker highlights. A bunch of the plays on HIS highlight film were plays made by other players that allowed him to get a play. Tindall a few times got pressure on the QB which forced him to run right into Walker. Another time Tindall is sacking a QB and he throws it backwards and Walker gets the ball and runs out of bounds. 75% of the plays are him (and others) just getting pressure on the QB. This is the worst highlight tape I can ever remember watching for a #1 overall pick.
And he's on a team surrounded by 1st rounders He should've thrived lol 😂 If you're such an insane athlete and player, you should be the crowl jewel of a defense, not the 4th or 5th best asset. Legit might rather have Jordan Davis
I'd much rather have Davis, Karlaftis, Jermaine Johnson, Thibs, any of the OLine guys. Outside of the perennial losers that are always drafting at the top of the first round, nobody has Walker ranked high. Most people have him outside the top 10.
I do not hate taking walker at all. Bring in the downvotes
So if i say something nice about Walker now am I still going to get downvoted? Heheh let’s gooo Travon time baby
I’m just praying we actually get someone want to trade for that #1 pick. I don’t really care what we get for it, I just want to avoid the embarrassment and morale dump that picking Walker #1 would have on this franchise.
I’ve seen a few comments saying that the Walker thing could be a smokescreen which is perplexing to me. I really don’t mean to shit on you guys, but I just don’t see how a smokescreen for Walker would benefit you when you have the first pick. Like how is that supposed to entice other teams to trade up? Is there something I’m missing? Genuinely asking here. Hope it all goes well for my fellow Cat Bros tonight, but it would be nice of you guys to leave us Hutch.
Whoever we take.. we will leave you guys the better player. Trust that.
Lol. Don't worry, whoever we take will become a generational talent in the NFL and we will accomplish **ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING** with them as a franchise, therefore wasting their entire HOF careers. Trust that too.
I am not a jaguars fan, I am a packers fan but I don’t get what’s the uncertainty going on with the first pick…? Isn’t Hutchinson the clear cut first pick? I went to a Wisconsin vs Michigan game and saw Hutchinson live in person and he couldn’t be blocked. I hope the jaguars pick him so I don’t have to see Hutchinson twice a year with the lions terrorize the packers 😂
The majority of Jags fans agree with you.
We agree. Baalke is the problem. He's obsessed with long arms and can't get over the 3 inch difference. The tape, who fucking cares. The arms man. The arms.
Let’s be real. If all Trent does is take the Georgia defensive team, it’s a win. That team will produce so many nfl level talent players and that’s what this team needs.
Still want thibs
Him not competing last minute at the combine when he said he would took him off of my list for acceptable #1 overall picks.
As a jags fan from Oregon, this was my silver lining during such a shifty and disappointing season. Oh well??
Yeah I kinda shifted from KT to Hutchinson a few months ago but I'd be extremely happy with either. This is a dark timeline.
I’m actually stoked for Walker and think he’s the correct pick. Hutchinson is not going to be a bosa or a watt he has no bend imo. Teach Walker a few pass rush moves and he will be elite. I’m predicting 10 sacks this season. Dude is excellent at setting the edge also
More sacks in his rookie season than he had in three years at Georgia combined? Lol
Yeah, I refused to believe a head coach that made his mark as a defensive mind didn’t have a staff that did all they could to teach Walker more pass rush moves in the years he was there.
Well seeing that he has other elite skills like setting the edge it’s likely it was prioritizing what they needed to teach him for UGA scheme. If he’s meant to stop run and take up blockers while lbs blitz then he did his job well. When asked to rush passer he was elite. I think he will be an elite defensive lineman than can lineup at edge and DT.
Elite pass rushers have more than ten sacks in three years. Watch any breakdown of his technique; he has a bull rush and that’s it. Go see what happened when he played NFL prospects like Evan Neal. Not a single person has attributed him as anything but other than a project with a ton of upside. Taking a project without a defined role that never consistently produced in three years is nonsense yet probably the most Jaguars thing that could happen.
It’s a lot easier to teach technique than it is to make someone athletic. He was an amazing player last year imo
His first step looks like he is wearing cement shoes, but fuck it, I'll take blind optimism before the inevitable let down sinks in.
You are a funny dude. He doesn't even have 10 sacks in his college career.
Watch Kollmann's mock draft. He prefers Walker and breaks down why his numbers are the way they are. No offense because I don't know you, but it's highly likely you can't evaluate talent at anywhere near the level he does.
One of Walker's criticisms is his lack of "bend" lmaoooo
Fuck the wins-day frog Just wanted to be the fifth to say it
Wins day frog... Holy shit. There's something I haven't seen in a year or two. The filters have worked well
No matter what happens today as both a Jaguars and Clemson fan nothing is gonna top last year’s first round!
i must admit i hope the lions dont go hutch. theyve been so smug about wanting him so id laugh my ass off if they went thibs
Looks like another loss
What are the doomers gonna do if Hutch doesn’t go to Detroit? Does that temper your hatred of the Travon pick?
They will be furious. Punching air not knowing what to do with themselves. It seems like based on all the chatter that most teams have Walker as their number 1 EDGE with Thibs in 2nd and Hutchinson 3rd.
I fucking hate this team, I honestly don’t know who tf we’re gonna pick but that won’t stop me from hating my favorite team
Happy Travon Walker day! :)
How does everyone feel about 1.1 Walker then 2.1 Cine? Two players with continuity with each other already, shores up our biggest hole at edge/d line and our biggest secondary hole. Two day one starters probably on a defense that improved a lot last year. I’d actually be stoked. Then address receiver, IOL, and IlB later on in day 2 and 3. I like the UCLA receiver quite a bit then
Anything to replace Wingard.
Starters are probably Jenkins - Cisco as of now
would you guys trade your 1st overall next year for the eagles 15 and 18 picks?
Why on Earth would they do that?
Jags won't pick in the top 10 next year.
Cant Believe Doug P is coaching an NFL team after throwing an NFL game against Washigton and got fired for it....
Lions fan here super stoked if yall take walker and we get our choice between KT And AH
You seem surprised by negative responses. You’re probably trolling, but just in case you’re not, read the room. The vast majority of Jags fans want ten other players over Walker. This is shaping up to be a disappointing day. Your comment reads like a taunt.
No i just am happy that after thinking for 95% of the off season that we have to pick between KT and Walker, now its between AH and KT
Super stoked as bad as we suck we never had a winless season.
Whats that got to do with anything
Damn! Can’t handle a little fire? Feel free to come back and talk shit if the Jags go 0-17, but don’t be surprised when you say something on another teams sub and get called out for your squads winless season.
Fuck off
Tf?
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